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Lyndon LaRouche, a famous American analyst, star wars architect and millionaire, immediately called the coup d'état in Ukraine a “Nazi coup”, with which Washington decided to break Russia, the biggest obstacle to the US undisputed world domination. Remember: Washington demanded that Russia change its policy on Nazi-Bandera Ukraine in favor of America and began to cooperate with the Bandera regime.

Putin's phenomenon


However, the “unthinkable” happened, according to American political analysts, Russia did not change its policy, that is, did not recognize Ukraine as a colony of the United States. The "unthinkable" for Washington was that Russia surfaced like an iceberg from the abyss of the Cold War, and ripped up the skin of the aircraft carrier "America" ​​...

And took the position of a superpower equivalent to America. The personification of this course in Russia was President Putin, and the Western press was hysterical about the "Putin phenomenon", hit by the "Putin syndrome".

What happened? Washington hurried ... Hurried with its colonial "projection of force" on Ukraine, and ran into the counter geopolitical attacks of Russia in the Crimea, in the Donbas, and then in Syria. I ran, in general, on Russia's decisive upholding of its security zone. Moscow did not break under military pressure, and then the sanctions attack of the West failed.

If Washington resisted the temptation of a relatively “light”, well-prepared coup in Kiev in 2014, and continued the policy of mild pressure-strangulation in the “friendly” embraces of Russia, he could count on Maidan in Moscow in the near future, relying on Bandera in Ukraine, fueled by Ukraine. Ukraine could play the role of the Bandera Galicia for Russia.

But Washington, by Putin’s definition, acted "unprofessionally," rushing Ukraine with a Nazi-Bandera "regime change." The Maidan in Kiev buried all liberal and other hopes for a pro-American Maidan in Moscow, strengthening the consolidation of elites and all of Russian society around President Putin and Moscow’s policy in general.

Putin, or his General Staff, acts in the opposite direction of Washington and his European vassals - he is in no hurry. Not in a hurry, one way or another, to resolve the armed conflict in Ukraine, not in a hurry with energy counter-sanctions against the West, which Paul Craig Roberts has long been talking about, he is not in a hurry to even call the Kiev regime Nazi.

Putin's Russia is putting pressure on the West gently, so as not to get burned, pushing an overheated Nazi-Bandera cauldron into Europe. Since she was his Euro-associate, the Nazi-brew from the cauldron should spill onto the Frankenstein that welded him.

Indeed, the decisive policy of Russia in relation to Bandera Ukraine would be a repetition of the American mistake with the Nazi coup in Kiev, which our ultra-patriots want to make!

Yes, our people are killed in the Donbas under artillery shelling of Bandera, but active military actions will lead to even greater casualties.

By decisive large-scale actions on the provocative Nazi coup d'état in Kiev, Russia would consolidate the Western countries against itself, and with this would do the work of putting the discipline in the NATO ranks for the Americans.

But Putin, or his General Staff, is acting professionally - not in a hurry, and the European Union is beginning to disintegrate, European commissioners are wailing about it today ... 23 June will hold a referendum in the UK on leaving Europe. In general, it does not even matter how it ends, it is important that England, and indeed all of Europe, are split.

The attitude to Nazism in Ukraine plays a huge role in this split, and it will only grow. Bandera Nazism will split Europe more and more, until western Frankenstein boils over with its Bandera brew. Maybe after the introduction of a visa-free regime of the European Union with Bandera Ukraine.
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  1. +19
    14 June 2016 06: 26
    Putin and the General Staff are in no hurry and took up Ukraine after the Bandera coup, that’s the problem, you had to deal with it before, you see, there wasn’t a coup
    1. +42
      14 June 2016 06: 36
      Quote: Igor39
      this is the problem, you had to deal with it before, you see, there was no coup

      Previously, how is it? Yanukovych zombie or bomb Maidan? Or maybe Yaytsenyuhu with Turchinov give money? They tried to respect the sovereignty of a foreign country, you know. We are not America poke your nose everywhere
      1. +56
        14 June 2016 06: 45
        Winnie76
        We are not America poke your nose everywhere

        Ukraine is not "everywhere", it is the Russian land.
        Previously, it was necessary to work, before the Maidan.
        1. +36
          14 June 2016 08: 25
          The failure of diplomacy in Ukraine is complete, they began to understand too late, but in today's conditions the actions are correct and we don’t know how to proceed from the lack of information, I really want to believe that the leadership has a complete picture.
        2. +5
          14 June 2016 08: 44
          Quote: populist
          Previously, it was necessary to work, before the Maidan.

          And what had to be done?
          1. +45
            14 June 2016 09: 33
            That at least put an adequate ambassador.
            Conduct joint cultural events, at the same time establish a network of "own people" in power structures. Whom should you coax others with by the genitals, but not leave everything to chance.
            To keep ready their youth activists who, on command, would crush the Maidan, which has not yet begun, with all this rabble jumping.
            As the saying goes, "a holy place is never empty." So the Saxons took it.
            1. +2
              15 June 2016 07: 07
              I agree with you. It was possible in Ukraine to form your fifth column, which is what the United States is doing in all countries ... hi
              1. +4
                15 June 2016 10: 07
                Quote: derik1970
                its fifth column

                the term "5th column" somehow sounds negative. Although, in fact, this is a negative factor in any state. First went from Spain by the way.

                I would call it the "second circuit of power", so that at the right moment, when everything is going to hell, take over control of the country and prevent it from slipping into "democracy"!
            2. +5
              15 June 2016 11: 27
              Quote: silver_roman
              Here are the Saxons and occupied it.

              First, they occupied him in the Kremlin. Damn, how can children explain that Russia was gone. They finished it off in 1992, and we were distracted by counting the varieties of sausages in grocery stores. The miracle is revealed against the background of insolent Saxon self-confidence. They took us with their bare hands, for chewing gum and for the rights of common people. You have not learned anything. Yes, we still exist as a state only thanks to the stupidity of the "exceptional" and European suicide. Politics is the art of the possible. Look closely at the box. It is not just that Tommy runs into dully in France, it is not just that the French give them a hand. Why did not the 5th column in Marseilles be lit earlier? We have any second in Turkmenistan ... What is not with us? Here is sadness ...
              1. +1
                15 June 2016 11: 47
                Do not be rude and leave emotions aside.
                What were you doing during jeans, chewing gum and hollywood? in the basement of Marx read or sang the anthem of the international in a quiet?
                Quote: 97110
                It’s not just that the tommies in the duel in France run up, it’s not just that the French wave it. Why didn’t you make the 5th column in Marseilles earlier? We have any second in Turkmenistan ... What is no longer with us? That sadness is ...

                nothing is clear from this. breathe in deeper, gather your thoughts and write humanly.
                and then the minuses to put just talent, and the thought to explain - "sadness".
            3. 0
              15 June 2016 14: 52
              Wow, as in Ukrainian suggest.
          2. +27
            14 June 2016 09: 43
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            And what had to be done?

            Gazprom needed to deal not only with buying players for $ 18 million, but also to monitor the situation in a neighboring country and would not have to run around Europe with bulging eyes in order to search for new gas pipelines.
            Quote: Igor39
            ... you had to deal with it before, you see, there was no coup.

            Do not shove Yugoslavia ...
            1. +7
              14 June 2016 10: 17
              I agree to the account of Ukraine, but by
              Quote: dorz
              Do not shove Yugoslavia ...


              then Russia was really not able to do anything.
              Of course, extreme measures could be taken, but the consequences would be dire.
              Then the states and NATO were still on horseback.
              1. +2
                15 June 2016 11: 36
                Quote: silver_roman
                Then the states and NATO were still on horseback.

                And now they got off the horse? Remember the cruiser Maine in Havana, the departure of the carriers from Pearl Harbor in 1941. Loud tears and sticky snot over NATO's weakness. They have to lure us out of the trench to death. Why didn't you get out before. Even NATO has not deployed multinational battalions in Baldon. They were just naked. And under the horse.
                1. +1
                  15 June 2016 12: 01
                  Quote: 97110
                  And now they got off the horse?

                  If you take into account the costs, the general situation of the Armed Forces of the NATO countries (not counting the states, although there are gaps), the size, financing, military equipment, training, the state of technology, then yes, not on horseback.
                  Quote: 97110
                  They have to lure us out of the trench to death

                  that is understandable. who is arguing? but we are not fought.
                  that and there is no serious force of type 3 of the Reich. Who do you think will be at war: the Balts or the Romanians? Probability is an account of the Turks, but as the current situation shows, the crisis with the Turks is over.
                  Provocations will continue.
                  Quote: 97110
                  Why didn’t you get out before?

                  again "hand-face" ... and nothing is clear.
                  learn to clarify your point of view. And then one pessimism, everything is lost, we all die, NATO is stronger than all ...
              2. +1
                16 June 2016 15: 10
                Chernomyrdin merged Yugoslavia, it seemed to him that the Americans had betrayed the post of supreme .... And why guess about what it would be. those who crap in the 90s remained largely at the helm and now. what will happen, we'll see.
            2. +1
              15 June 2016 11: 31
              Quote: dorz
              Gazprom needs

              Gazprom is a joint stock company. Who are the auditors there? P&W? No? Who is there in the big four awarded? How to explain the board of JSC will be gentlemen shareholders
              Quote: dorz
              monitor the situation in a neighboring country
              ?
              1. +4
                15 June 2016 18: 19
                Quote: 97110
                Who are the auditors there?

                Excuse me, who cares who the auditors are. You have the loot - invite the house!
              2. +3
                15 June 2016 18: 19
                Quote: 97110
                Who are the auditors there?

                Excuse me, who cares who the auditors are. You have the loot - invite the house!
          3. +8
            14 June 2016 10: 25
            At least put an adequate ambassador.

            Russian Ambassador to Ukraine Mikhail Zurabov requested political asylum in Ukraine.

            He stated this during passport control at the Boryspil airport after arriving from Moscow, where he held a meeting with Russian President Vladimir Putin, the press service of the State Border Service reports.

            In an oral conversation, Zurabov said that he always supported Ukraine and was not afraid to express his position on social networks under a coined nickname, at the same time he was forced to adhere to the official position of Russia.
            1. +7
              14 June 2016 11: 23
              Quote: sisa29
              Russian Ambassador to Ukraine Mikhail Zurabov requested political asylum in Ukraine.


              the cattle sold out. such must be shot. angry
              1. +4
                14 June 2016 11: 42
                Quote: silver_roman
                Quote: sisa29
                Russian Ambassador to Ukraine Mikhail Zurabov requested political asylum in Ukraine.


                the cattle sold out. such must be shot. angry

                This is a fake of Ukrainian electronic media. Such is April Fools' Day - 2015 - a joke. Back in April last year, all this was discussed and discussed in detail. negative
                1. +6
                  14 June 2016 11: 57
                  Quote: andj61
                  Back in April last year, all this was discussed and discussed in detail.

                  Not much followed.
                  But still, given his "active" activity as an ambassador in the strategic direction, shoot him!
                  1. +9
                    14 June 2016 13: 53
                    Quote: silver_roman
                    given his "active" activity as an ambassador in the strategic direction, shoot!

                    good drinks
                    I don’t know how about “shooting” him, but he had to be fired from the civil service even before he was in charge of the pension fund and healthcare. The country would only benefit from this.
                    1. +1
                      14 June 2016 17: 50
                      put in its place even worse
                      1. 0
                        15 June 2016 10: 06
                        I think his place will be empty for a long time. They will probably open the second American embassy!
                2. +13
                  14 June 2016 13: 35
                  Information war, I agree with you.
                  Do you think this is also a fake?
                  The director of the museum of the school, which Zurabov graduated from, was surprised by the question about him: "What to be proud of? As he studied, he works - for three grades." But this C grade is actually an excellent student. Zurabov meticulously destroyed all areas that were entrusted to him: the pension system, social security, healthcare, relations with Ukraine. The reason is probably the focus on personal enrichment and preservation in office at any cost. As such, he appears to be an indispensable "specialist" for the liberals - in the destruction

                  http://kolokolrussia.ru/sovetuem-pochitat/mihail-zurabov-otlichnyy-troechnik#hcq
                  = mmmW5Op
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              3. +1
                16 June 2016 15: 27
                This is written on the Ukrainian site, see when you retype. And then the stuffing turns out or specially?
            2. +1
              14 June 2016 12: 37
              Ever since his work in the social and health sector of the government, his essence can be traced. Now he asked for political asylum in Nenke and finally disappeared from our eyes. His "activity" deserves strong words.
          4. +9
            14 June 2016 11: 36
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Quote: populist
            Previously, it was necessary to work, before the Maidan.

            And what had to be done?

            Well, the ambassador in Ukraine was not only supposed to live for his pleasure, as Zurabov did, and Chernomyrdin too. And their predecessors - Aboimov, Dubinin, Smolyakov also did NOTHING to advance Russian interests in Ukraine. And our government has never been preoccupied with this issue at all. There was very little money needed for this, and the returns could be huge. And now we have what we have ... request
          5. +6
            14 June 2016 12: 49
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            And what had to be done?

            At least the same as the West: create their own NGOs, train their fighters and agitators in youth camps, create structures for managing political and military actions, etc. etc.

            And the main thing is not to abandon your supporters, as happened with pro-Russian political parties and public organizations, which were simply defeated in Ukraine with the silent indifference of Russia.

            If Russia does not stand up for its supporters, then who will support it? Again "elites" striving to suck two cows?

            But all this, of course, makes sense if Russia believes that its interests go beyond its state borders. Otherwise, the games called "respect for sovereignty" and "we are with our Western partners ..." And the Russians will continue to celebrate the "independence" of Russia. drinks
          6. 0
            15 June 2016 11: 19
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            And what had to be done?

            And those demanding "earlier" had to sit on the pot on their own in the nursery group. What's in your pants? Or the West has already sent diapers for dirty asses. Nobody seems to know what has been in the country since 1985. Who should have been "before"? Misha M? They wouldn't give him a medal. Boris E? And they won't pour? Ask yourself what we did in 1986. We listened to various traitors on the topic "How can we arrange Russia" so that their salaries in the State Department are not reduced and how to finish off Russia in 100 days. Everyone is so smart, smart, only they don't go in formation.
          7. +1
            15 June 2016 12: 44
            To shoot the most zealous, and even earlier it was necessary to buy their media and counter-propaganda lead, take their oligars by the balls, they had interest in Russia, and take this interest. Yes, a lot of things could be done. And now what to say, the train left.
          8. +2
            16 June 2016 10: 35
            I would like to see the successes and recognition of the world community not only in the foreign policy of Russia, but also in the domestic, in the growth of its economy, in improving the well-being of people, in pension provision, these are two sides of the same coin.
        3. +4
          14 June 2016 09: 33
          Then it would not be possible to return the Crimea.
          1. +8
            14 June 2016 11: 41
            Then they would return all of Ukraine.
        4. +6
          14 June 2016 10: 11
          Ukraine, like other republics of the USSR, despite the external signs of statehood, had no real experience of building sovereignty. These were all artificial formations. This is what today's alignment shows. Ukraine and the rest should have been dealt with initially !!! Another question: who would do it? Remember - we ourselves and the State were not very good at that time, we were distributing sovereignty "whoever grabs how much", fought in Chechnya, privatized / plundered the Soviet inheritance, fought for power within the Country ... What Ukraine, if half of our territories had laws that were not appropriate Russian Constitution!
          At first, they put things in order, and now it is time to collect external stones ...
          1. -1
            14 June 2016 20: 59
            Is the order inside? Rave Or are you not living in Russia?
          2. 0
            16 June 2016 11: 08
            The same impoverished and all Russia was in debt, like modern Ukraine, it wasn’t before Ukraine - it would be repelled by itself when it got up already and late, maybe the moment was missed, but with all the problems Russia retained sovereignty, Ukraine didn’t.
        5. +8
          14 June 2016 10: 16
          By the way, we are now slowly starting to lose Belarus .....
        6. +2
          14 June 2016 10: 20
          Quote: populist
          Previously, it was necessary to work, before the Maidan.

          Then the "Makarevichs" would have authoritatively carried the people along - "there is no need to pry into the affairs of another state." And so they would believe. And now the masks have been thrown off, and everything has come out and many have opened their eyes to the real state of affairs in the world.
        7. +2
          14 June 2016 11: 15
          "Before, you had to work before the Maidan." In the years 30-40 and up to 91 - time wasted, the train left.
        8. +2
          14 June 2016 11: 28
          Quote: populist
          Previously, it was necessary to work, before the Maidan.


          They worked. Donbass appeared and survived. Our Crimea. Ukraine has problems with Europe. And you would not write about what you do not understand.
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        10. +3
          14 June 2016 11: 42
          Quote: populist
          Ukraine is not "everywhere", it is the Russian land.
          Previously, it was necessary to work, before the Maidan.

          So Zurabov was the ambassador from us in the same place - he is still a worker.
          1. +5
            14 June 2016 15: 12
            I won’t say anything about Zubarov’s work, on the one hand everything was possible and needed to be done differently, more actively, and so on, but .....
            Tell me at least one of our ambassadors who at the moment would meet your requirements?

            Russia's policy is a policy of soft power, in contrast to the policy of OSHA. Which policy is better is hard to say. On the one hand, the OSHA policy is bearing fruit, the policy of Russia, it seems, is not, but again the same, but .... The policy of OSA is fast food, the policy of that little dragon from the cartoon: me, me, me.

            I will not be surprised that a bit of our efforts were made to the events in Ukraine, to be more precise, the brakes were released, and this was done consciously. If you look at the picture as a whole, then Russia has become the main beneficiary in the events in Ukraine. And this is despite the sanctions.
            The same sanctions would be in any case, everything went to this. One way or another, they would have found a reason for this. Do not forget that we were threatened with sanctions even before the events in Ukraine, regarding the same Syria, Iran and so on.
            As Zakharchenko said about Savchenko’s arrival: let her come out, we will bang her, they will blame us, but at least for what. So it is in this situation.

            Therefore, it is difficult to say that this or that ambassador, diplomatic representative or someone else is bad and didn’t do anything. What could have been done differently, yes, but the consequences would have been completely different.
            1. 0
              16 June 2016 13: 07
              Yes, there is nothing complicated. Even if for a second we imagine that no one would be better able to cope with the tasks set by Zurabov ( laughing ), this all the same will not mean that everything that he did is correct. Of course, in the era of information wars, you can give an error for achievement, and defeat for victory, but repeating them is not worth it. The development of events in Belarus and Kazakhstan suggests that the correct conclusions have not been made, and the former three-year-olds may well become second-year students ...
        11. +6
          14 June 2016 12: 10
          Ukraine was the outskirts of the Russian land until 91, before the Belovezhsky agreements ... And then it was transferred to the kaklam. And Ukraine has ceased to be a Russian land .. Now it really is "everywhere," a scattered stone, one of .. And collecting these scattered stones will take a long, long time, painstakingly, painstakingly ... Because it is more difficult to collect than to scatter ..
        12. +5
          14 June 2016 16: 09
          Forgive me, but with whom it was necessary to "work" there. Those who have not served with "Ukrainians" do not know them. How much money do not give there, it will still not be enough. 91st the economy of Ukraine was equal to the economy of France and where is this economy now. They went to their "F ..." for 25 years, the Americans had enough 2 years to understand what these guys are like. Now for the USAaa, Ukraine is like a suitcase without a handle, there is no strength to carry, and they do not allow to abandon ambitions ...
        13. +1
          15 June 2016 07: 02
          good And now do not forget about Belarus ... hi
        14. 0
          15 June 2016 11: 13
          Quote: populist
          Previously, it was necessary to work, before the Maidan.

          Duc still couldn't hang over, "worker with documents"
        15. -1
          15 June 2016 19: 34
          Ukraine is not "everywhere", it is the Russian land.
          Previously, it was necessary to work, before the Maidan.


          populist (the first letter is capital, correct) .. You are wrong !!! Let dill choke on independence with an empty refrigerator to the fullest !!! Otherwise, they will go to bed again and say that they feed Russia !!!
      2. -4
        14 June 2016 06: 54
        So Putin himself convinced Yanukovych not to use force against the Maidan, he talked about it himself, and then helped him escape. But if he said to extinguish all the maydowns, then everything could have been different. And so in the country, the golden eagle was framed, civil is war a success?

        PS Who zombie maidan?
        1. +3
          14 June 2016 09: 34
          Yes, success. We have the Crimea, we do not pay for the bases, do not care about agreements on the tonnage of ships.
          1. +7
            14 June 2016 09: 42
            We have Crimea, but Ukraine is now against us.
            1. +3
              15 June 2016 11: 10
              And who ever said that the Russian authorities had a desire to bring Ukraine closer to themselves?
              Provided that in Ukraine there lives a certain citizen Medvedchuk, who is a very influential person surrounded by all the presidents of the outskirts and part-time godfather of our president. I don’t know, google to help. And briefly this person. had a direct relationship with Minsk-1,2 and the exchange of savchenko and other prisoners.
              It is difficult to imagine more powerful levers of influence on Ukrainian politics and the situation in the country.
              However, all the features, to put it mildly, were not used. Now we have what we have.
              Although it should be noted that the situation of tension is beneficial to the authorities of both republics. Plebs is easier to control if you throw him some kind of enemy.
              And both there and us in the media of zombie propaganda practically the same cliches are used.
              Meanwhile, all those in power are shaking hands, our oligarchy and the local there are entangled, Hera Gref feels great on the outskirts and for some reason feels bad in the Crimea.
              To paraphrase the classics, we can say that the swaying of the national question is advantageous, exclusively, for maintaining the power of the big bourgeoisie, whose representatives are the presidents of both republics.
          2. +2
            14 June 2016 09: 56
            And if a competent policy were built, they would receive not a splinter in the sea without communications, but an entire agrarian rich southern region at the level of loyalty to Belarus.
          3. -2
            14 June 2016 13: 49
            Ride78 yes, dear, our Crimea. at whose expense the bridge is being built? For ours. At whose expense is the infrastructure being built? For ours. And who will live and rest there? Judging by the Moscow prices in Crimea, we are not for sure, and the further the less. And now the news: 40000 Jews asked the President of the Russian Federation for permission to return to "their historical homeland." Ta-da-dame! And further: "According to L. Grach, the decision of V. Putin to grant Russian citizenship to repatriates will be" extremely important "in interstate relations between Russia and Israel, and will also cause a" positive international resonance. " Elizabeth II at one time allowed entry to all nationalities in Russia, except Jews
            (I wonder why?) Vladimir (the namesake of our president) Monomakh said: “Now from all Russian land all the Jews with all their estates should be sent and continue to be kept out; and if they secretly go in, it’s free to rob and kill them. ”Perhaps they were stupid leaders of the Russian state and not politically visionary?
            1. +5
              14 June 2016 15: 21
              Personally, I am normal towards the Jews, but I hate the Jews fiercely. Not every Jew is Jewish, and not every Jew is Jewish.
              It has always been implied that zh.d is a bad person profiting at the expense of others, whether by deception, in other bad ways.

              If we recall the church, then Jesus and the churchmen because of whom he was crucified were Jews. Only now the churchmen were just Jews. In fact, Jesus was not crucified because of faith, but because he came to the temple and drove out merchants (Jews) from there, and the clergy who had a good bribe from these merchants were not happy with this.

              PS for the administration: I know that some words are forbidden, but in this text they’re not like without them, and they don’t carry, in essence, an offensive character, to one or another nationality
            2. -2
              14 June 2016 21: 09
              Subject to settlement in the Jewish Autonomous Region, the north of Russia and Siberia, there are no problems.
              If this herd intends to populate southern Russia, capitals and large cities - refuse! So far, there has been no reason to blame Putin for the idiocy.
        2. +3
          14 June 2016 09: 35
          Quote: Igor39
          So Putin himself convinced Yanukovych not to use force against the Maidan, he talked about it himself, and then helped him escape. But if he said to extinguish all the maydowns, then everything could have been different. And so in the country, the golden eagle was framed, civil is war a success?

          PS Who zombie maidan?

          Well, of course, for the sake of the notorious Nuland cookies, all Ukrainians gathered on the Maidan and threw Yanukovych away, there is no doubt about that laughing .
        3. +12
          14 June 2016 09: 39
          quite the opposite: Putin, on the contrary, said that he should use force. He's even at the dock. the film said about the release of Yanyk and about the return of the Crimea.
        4. +8
          14 June 2016 10: 13
          Quote: Igor39
          is it a success?

          Our Crimea! And the crumbling Ukraine is undoubtedly a success! It is necessary to open abscesses, but not to plant plantain forever! While the non-use of force, these were the basic requirements of the West. And Yanukovych listened to him on Putin’s Bole ...
      3. +9
        14 June 2016 07: 44
        Pro-Russian propaganda was needed everywhere, the introduction of pro-Russian politicians into power, the replacement of the ever-celebrating Ambassador Chernomyrdin with a professional international relations officer, and much more ... They hoped for "brotherly love", while in Ukraine there was undisguised anti-Russian hysteria on all fronts. Painfully strongly carried away by the section (privatization) of state property among the retinue of the drunkard EBN. The result for the thinking was predictable.
        1. +4
          14 June 2016 10: 14
          Quote: Byordovvv1
          They were very much passionate about the division (privatization) of state property among the retinue of a drunkard EBN.

          Here I am about the same - there was no one to do this ...
      4. +3
        14 June 2016 09: 07
        Quote: Winnie76
        Quote: Igor39
        this is the problem, you had to deal with it before, you see, there was no coup

        Previously, how is it? Yanukovych zombie or bomb Maidan? Or maybe Yaytsenyuhu with Turchinov give money? They tried to respect the sovereignty of a foreign country, you know. We are not America poke your nose everywhere

        Do not make me laugh. We have stolen Ukraine. They were exclusively engaged in the oil and gas sector. And it was necessary to schools. Ordinary high schools.
        Who was our ambassador in Kiev, remember? A mediocre boob.
        1. +4
          14 June 2016 09: 38
          Quote: Beefeater
          Quote: Winnie76
          Quote: Igor39
          this is the problem, you had to deal with it before, you see, there was no coup

          Previously, how is it? Yanukovych zombie or bomb Maidan? Or maybe Yaytsenyuhu with Turchinov give money? They tried to respect the sovereignty of a foreign country, you know. We are not America poke your nose everywhere

          Do not make me laugh. We have stolen Ukraine. They were exclusively engaged in the oil and gas sector. And it was necessary to schools. Ordinary high schools.
          Who was our ambassador in Kiev, remember? A mediocre boob.

          And who is the ambassador to Ukraine now, is he not an artiodactyl?
        2. +3
          14 June 2016 13: 43
          Quote: Beefeater
          Who was our ambassador in Kiev, remember? Mediocre boob


          Why was it? He is now - Zurabov. And this is also incomprehensible. A man screwed up in full, but he is not removed and not punished.
          This leads to sad thoughts: it turns out that he did not screw up at all, but simply did good and high quality what Putin ordered him to do?
      5. 0
        15 June 2016 06: 14
        Quote: Winnie76
        Quote: Igor39
        this is the problem, you had to deal with it before, you see, there was no coup

        Previously, how is it? Yanukovych zombie or bomb Maidan? Or maybe Yaytsenyuhu with Turchinov give money? They tried to respect the sovereignty of a foreign country, you know. We are not America poke your nose everywhere

        Ukrov's "presidents" always tried to sit on 2 chairs ... Russia simply rented them (I met this expression somewhere on VO or Politicus) so that the GDP could only act according to the situation
      6. 0
        15 June 2016 16: 16
        Quote: Winnie76
        Previously, how is it? Yanukovych zombie or bomb Maidan?

        Earlier - this is 15 or at least 10 years earlier. You seem to be unaware of how swiftly and brazenly they planted "national pride" and Russophobia, including under Yanukovych
      7. 0
        15 June 2016 19: 48
        It used to be from 1991, or at least from 2000, while the Americans did everything they wanted on the outskirts, and we depicted the friendship of nations to the detriment of their country, but at a profit to the oligarchs.
      8. 0
        15 June 2016 21: 01
        Quote: Winnie76
        Yanukovych zombie or bomb Maidan

        Or maybe it was not necessary to support this chukhan in the elections?! Is a man worthy of power to take off his caps from people in public toilets? This is our personnel policy ...
      9. 0
        15 June 2016 22: 47
        Strangle Russia to the hell with all these eggs and Yanukovych powders. To strangle to death .. Buy and strangle! Anyway, it would be cheaper for Russia.
    2. -2
      14 June 2016 07: 12
      Or maybe he was just needed to split the geyropu, and indeed the entire western viper?
      1. +4
        14 June 2016 07: 17
        So you think that Putin also planned the coup? laughing laughing laughing
        1. +17
          14 June 2016 08: 24
          President Putin became the personification of this course of Russia, and the Western press became hysterical about the “Putin phenomenon”, struck by “Putin's syndrome”.

          "The Putin Phenomenon" is to remain an honest person in the most difficult moments. For some reason, this property is very little noticed in the West. If they did the same as our president, the world would be much calmer.
          1. +3
            14 June 2016 10: 00
            Just at the end of the 2000s, he promised that he would divide Ukraine along the Dnieper if the "partners" would stick there. On the Russian first channel it was ...
            1. 0
              16 June 2016 11: 16
              They would already have divided it, if it suited Russia, Putin needs all of Ukraine, all without Americans.
        2. +1
          14 June 2016 09: 55
          So you think that Putin also planned the coup?

          Of course, the Maidan is the work of American hands, but it seems to me that Putin nevertheless deliberately allowed this Maidan to happen. It was also a great occasion to restore "forever and ever" historical justice and return Crimea to Russia. Then he counted several moves ahead. For centuries to come. After all, in Kiev everything can still change. Maybe in 10 years or in 50 years, Ukraine will again become a normal friendly country to us, but Crimea will be Russian anyway. And this is forever!
          1. +1
            14 June 2016 10: 07
            Quote: Fhvty
            So you think that Putin also planned the coup?

            Of course, the Maidan is the work of American hands, but it seems to me that Putin nevertheless deliberately allowed this Maidan to happen. It was also a great occasion to restore "forever and ever" historical justice and return Crimea to Russia. Then he counted several moves ahead. For centuries to come. After all, in Kiev everything can still change. Maybe in 10 years or in 50 years, Ukraine will again become a normal friendly country to us, but Crimea will be Russian anyway. And this is forever!

            Dear Russian compatriot, your analysis is no good, it’s necessary, Putin purposely turned out to take Maidan to take possession of Crimea. If 200 years have passed, the Ukrainians will no longer return to Russia, you can forget about normal Russian-Ukrainian relations because you yourself see our relations with Azerbaijan.
            1. +3
              14 June 2016 16: 47
              No need to compare Azerbaijan and Ukraine, these are slightly different things. Then it is better to compare Armenia and Ukraine.
              With all this, in recent years, Azerbaijan has begun to look more and more towards Russia, despite all the differences and all the differences.

              At one time in the early 90s, many who gained independence believed that we would now heal, and Russia would simply fall apart stupidly without us, it would not be able to pull everything that was thrown onto it.
              And at the moment, for many, envy starts to work stupidly: how is that? we are so special, and in opera, and Russia, which had one step to the grave, grew stronger and grew. From here and all the attacks from the former "roommates".
              Whatever the politics and relations at the moment, but the mentality of people will still prevail. In the 90s we had the same policy: "the West will help us", well, where is this policy at the moment? As the saying goes, time heals.
              1. +3
                14 June 2016 19: 08
                They all believed that they were feeding a lazy and always drunken older brother. Got the will and ...
                And now they are trying to sell more expensive.
                That's the whole geopolitical alignment in the post-Soviet space.
          2. 0
            16 June 2016 11: 18
            Crimea is good, but not enough, it is necessary that America would not exist in Ukraine at all.
    3. +1
      14 June 2016 10: 23
      Ukraine will not receive a visa-free regime overnight, this is unambiguous. And for stupid stubbornness in unwillingness to follow the "Minsk Prescriptions 2" it can be completely cut off by the end of the year from the same Europe.
    4. +1
      14 June 2016 10: 25
      How do we know all the ideas and plans for geopolitics, maybe such a performance was calculated in the GRU and Sov. the president. They say Putin thinks strategically calculating several moves ahead. And Hohland has long been prepared for this role. After all, do not happen what happened, anything could happen. And now they are forced to reckon with us and they fear and respect us.
    5. +1
      14 June 2016 12: 32
      Again a tricky plan? Yes, as much as you can ...
      1. +1
        14 June 2016 13: 55
        Well, that is, there can be no plans in principle, and all actions are performed spontaneously as a reaction to the circumstances?
        I have only one question. Do you think this applies to all, or only Russia and Putin?
        For me, for example, it is obvious that plans are undoubtedly being built, including long-term ones. The trick of these plans may be different, depending on the completeness of the information and preparation of the authors of the plan.
        It is likely that some of the plans turned out to be or will turn out to be extremely successful in the future, and therefore cunning.
        For me, this whole howl about Putin’s non-existent plan is part of the information war against Russia with the goal of driving as many of its citizens into the head as possible. that everything is bad in Russia.
        In other words, a desperate extremely cynical attempt to organize revolutions in Russia after all, since the first plan did not work.
        Or did the Americans also have no plan?
        1. 0
          15 June 2016 07: 49
          I completely agree with you. In the Anglo-Saxons, this plan is being implemented even with King Charlemagne, that is, the destruction of Orthodoxy and all Russian. We accordingly plan to counteract this and that's it.
    6. 0
      14 June 2016 20: 57
      Gee! Someone can name at least something that our liberals have not seen in power over the past 25 years? It just doesn't exist! Putin can correct and clean up the most burning thing for these corrupt bastards.
    7. 0
      15 June 2016 10: 10
      "before" the lobbies were too strong, which carried out policies in line with the surrender of interests.
      Article
      Yes, in the Donbass our people perish under the shelling of Bandera, but active military operations will lead to even greater victims

      this is NOT an argument. for the sake of ending violence, victims are permissible. The problem is different - a forceful solution solved one problem, but created an even bigger one. this is the problem, not the price.
    8. 0
      15 June 2016 12: 46
      If a child yells and really wants to stroke a beautiful hot metal, he will stroke it. And do not bother him. Deny so he will take offense at you all his life for the taken pleasure. Let them enjoy. winked After being burned that warned he will remember for life.
  2. Riv
    +3
    14 June 2016 06: 30
    What other phenomenon? Americans are like children. First, they invent a monster for themselves, then they are demonstratively frightened and screech, hiding under a blanket. And then this monster gradually becomes a nyash and everyone loves him even more than a superhero.
    And Ukraine ... Where is it in general and WTF?
    1. 0
      14 June 2016 09: 24
      Quote: Riv
      WTF?

      In the sense of "on ... x ... me?" (sorry for my French with Nizhny Novgorod).
    2. 0
      14 June 2016 10: 16
      Quote: Riv
      Americans are like children. First, they invent a monster for themselves, then they are demonstratively frightened and screech, hiding under a blanket.

      Very cunning children - they are not frail grandmothers who beat this monster and cover the others wink
  3. +5
    14 June 2016 06: 43
    It has been repeatedly mentioned that Putin uses judo methods in Big politics, i.e. makes the enemy, using his inertia and self-confidence, plop down his face into a puddle. And the whole recent history connected with the events in Syria and Ukraine, is a vivid example of how to put the enemy in time trouble and force them to take premature and completely ill-conceived steps. The United States would have succeeded with their plans for Russia if the President of Russia acted according to their rules, but ... it didn’t grow together: it’s not they who set the rules, but who didn’t have time, was late.
  4. +3
    14 June 2016 06: 46
    Yes, in the Donbass our people perish under the shelling of Bandera

    The main thing is that children die. And in this case, I can not understand either side.
    1. +2
      14 June 2016 07: 03
      "The main thing is that children are dying. And in this case, I cannot understand either side."

      That's for sure.
    2. +3
      14 June 2016 09: 36
      Would you like children to die in Russia?
    3. +2
      14 June 2016 10: 17
      Quote: EvgNik
      The main thing is that children die. And in this case, I can not understand either side.

      Children always die, this is the essence of war, and even more so of a civil war. Should we not understand this with our history?
    4. +3
      14 June 2016 10: 24
      Quote: EvgNik
      The main thing is that children die. And in this case, I can not understand either side.

      It is strange that you do not understand our side. That is, what to do - paws to the top and let Bandera go to Donetsk and Sevastopol - do they burn the houses of trade unions with people there? Or tanks to go to Kiev? Advise something.
    5. +1
      14 June 2016 13: 55
      Quote: EvgNik
      The main thing is that children die. And in this case, I can not understand either side.

      Yes, not good. And how many would die in the event of an open confrontation?
  5. +2
    14 June 2016 06: 53
    You’ll go on quietly. GDP quietly punishes everyone
  6. +14
    14 June 2016 07: 05
    Some in Ukraine and in Russia blame Putin for not opposing the Bendery coup. This is one of the attempts to blame the blame on another, but not on himself.
    1. +7
      14 June 2016 10: 09
      I would also add that those who remembered about Gazprom, about the fact that "why not before .." and "missed .." - in order to solve the problem of Nazism in Ukraine earlier, it is necessary to have Ukraine as part of Russia. Because Galicia and under the Union was hostile against the East. I personally encountered ignorance of the address in Russian in the early 90s, until you switch to Ukrainian, since I spoke it well. And who came to the Rada from the moment of separation from the Union - Kravchuk stuffed the majority of traps there. Then Kuchma encouraged it, and then there is nothing to talk about. If you remember, the Rada did not miss any pro-Russian, or pro-Russian, if you like, law. Neither language nor other issues. But for the revision of the property they voted easy. Galicia is still a problem for the USSR, so it was practically impossible to solve it in a foreign country.
  7. +1
    14 June 2016 07: 06
    That's right, as in a joke, slowly go down and take the whole herd ...
    1. +2
      14 June 2016 07: 12
      The herd has already taken and instilled extreme degree Russophobia.
      1. +2
        14 June 2016 10: 19
        Quote: Igor39
        The herd has already taken and instilled extreme degree Russophobia.

        Today they instilled Russophobia, tomorrow they instill Russophilia ... That's what the herd is))) Remember the English propaganda of the XNUMXth century - from one extreme to another ...
    2. -7
      14 June 2016 09: 59
      Quote: parusnik
      That's right, as in a joke, slowly go down and take the whole herd ...

      Well, yes, Ukrainians and other peoples of the former USSR only dream of being part of Russia on the rights of a province, why are they fighting the militias, they would surrender to them and they would have happiness that they do not have in this "fascist" Ukraine wassat
      1. +9
        14 June 2016 11: 02
        Fair? Why ... you are needed, especially other peoples of the USSR ... You have come in large numbers to Russia anyway ... You all scold her and you all go here ... to a totalitarian, authoritarian, etc. country .. And so by and large, why did you need independence? If you are going from your independent countries to Europe, the United States, Russia to live and work ... why don't you build anything yourself ... how is the Motherland ... for whose sake you tore your throats in the squares ... at the sunset of perestroika ... brothers and sisters declared .. why do we need the USSR? We ourselves..The second France, Switzerland will build..not fick to feed Russia..Well, where is the second France, Switzerland, Germany, Japan, USA..on the territory of the former USSR..maybe the Baltic states? .. Armenia? .. Ukraine ?. .Belorussia? .. Moldova is ahead of the rest of the world or the Central Asian republics ..? .. Do not aspire to Russia do not need .. you really have now picked up others .. and against Russia you are friends .. About the word "herd" .. Eka you jar .. But calm down .. under the "herd" I meant the EU .. The author is right .. no need to knock out one of them from the saddle .. it is better to shake and destroy the entire EU .. And it is a pity that the EU does not accept, such strongholds of democracy in the former USSR ... like Ukraine, Armenia, Georgia, Belarus ... the EU would have collapsed faster ... the EU was not created for beggars ... the expansion of the EU at the expense of Romania, Bulgaria ... and others, it is the death of these countries and the union itself ... So we will slowly go down and take the whole herd ..
        1. -2
          14 June 2016 11: 46
          Quote: parusnik
          Fair? Why ... you are needed, especially other peoples of the USSR ... You have come in large numbers to Russia anyway ... You all scold her and you all go here ... to a totalitarian, authoritarian, etc. country .. And so by and large, why did you need independence? If you are going from your independent countries to Europe, the United States, Russia to live and work ... why don't you build anything yourself ... how is the Motherland ... for whose sake you tore your throats in the squares ... at the sunset of perestroika ... brothers and sisters declared .. why do we need the USSR? We ourselves..The second France, Switzerland will build..not fick to feed Russia..Well, where is the second France, Switzerland, Germany, Japan, USA..on the territory of the former USSR..maybe the Baltic states? .. Armenia? .. Ukraine ?. .Belorussia? .. Moldova is ahead of the rest of the world or the Central Asian republics ..? .. Do not aspire to Russia do not need .. you really have now picked up others .. and against Russia you are friends .. About the word "herd" .. Eka you jar .. But calm down .. under the "herd" I meant the EU .. The author is right .. no need to knock out one of them from the saddle .. it is better to shake and destroy the entire EU .. And it is a pity that the EU does not accept, such strongholds of democracy in the former USSR ... like Ukraine, Armenia, Georgia, Belarus ... the EU would have collapsed faster ... the EU was not created for beggars ... the expansion of the EU at the expense of Romania, Bulgaria ... and others, it is the death of these countries and the union itself ... So we will slowly go down and take the whole herd ..

          What a hysteria, Napoleon, do I doubt the greatness of Russia, I’m even sure that you will take the whole herd, instead of your own development, you think about the herds that you need to own. laughing bully
          By the way, introduce a visa regime with the CIS countries, why not introduce it?
          1. +6
            14 June 2016 15: 05
            Dear razmik72! And we are developing. It’s hard, hard, but we don’t stand still. In the most difficult conditions, when Russia was driven into an economic blockade by the West, having previously plundered it to the skin in the nineties, this is really not easy to do. And in truth, it is better for us Russians to be friends with you and other neighbors on mutually beneficial conditions than to involve in our statehood. Thank you, the history of the USSR has already taught us this. And as for the visa regime, it’s not yet evening, you will need it, it will be applied to whom. Not everything is so easy and simple. But we Russians will break through. As for owning other herds ... So you are mistaken. For me personally, for my friends and friends of my friends, for example, it’s somehow violet whether you are building a gas pipeline to Italy or not building it. We have so many of our internal worries! If only we would not become enemies. So, do not worry, please.
          2. +2
            14 June 2016 21: 22
            razmik72 ..By the way, introduce a visa regime with the CIS countries, why not introduce it?
            If we introduce it .. you will remain without work .. the hysteria will begin smile I'm Napoleon, and what chamber are you from? smile We are developing ... we are building airplanes, icebreakers ... etc. What are you doing? .. They built a new Switzerland ..? .. There are no lights out from tourists ..?
  8. 0
    14 June 2016 07: 10
    Russia surfaced like an iceberg from the abyss of the Cold War, and tore up the skin of the aircraft carrier "America" ​​...

    The author described the situation well and very figuratively.
    Russia presses softly on the West

    Maybe this is the problem, which is too soft in response to rabid Russophobia and political chaos?
    1. +2
      14 June 2016 10: 21
      Quote: rotmistr60
      The author described the situation well and very figuratively.

      Too rosy - so far it has just loomed by the side ... But it will be upheld when everyone refuses the dollar and the US debt ceases to buy ...
  9. 0
    14 June 2016 07: 11
    We place our bets, gentlemen, I bet on "black" - Great Britain will remain in the EU :-)

    "... Russia surfaced like an iceberg from the depths of the Cold War, and ripped open the skin of the aircraft carrier" America "..."
    And who has collapsed oil prices, and who devalued the ruble twice, America nevertheless shows growth in the economy, who in the economy has become worse from the above events?
    1. +1
      14 June 2016 07: 26
      I also bet that the Britons will remain.
      1. 0
        14 June 2016 09: 44
        Quote: Igor39
        I also bet that the Britons will remain.

        Britons will join EurAsEC, about this I had a prophetic dream today laughing .
    2. -2
      14 June 2016 09: 42
      Quote: sa-ag
      We place our bets, gentlemen, I bet on "black" - Great Britain will remain in the EU :-)

      "... Russia surfaced like an iceberg from the depths of the Cold War, and ripped open the skin of the aircraft carrier" America "..."
      And who has collapsed oil prices, and who devalued the ruble twice, America nevertheless shows growth in the economy, who in the economy has become worse from the above events?

      The author of the article is burning wassat laughing , America is America, and America is showing steady growth, and the EU is slowly growing.
      1. 0
        14 June 2016 10: 49
        Haha, the Fed’s rates are going to be raised again. Accordingly, the dollar will strengthen its position, on the other hand, goods will become more expensive, which economy is profitable - again a soap bubble.
    3. 0
      14 June 2016 10: 22
      Quote: sa-ag
      who in the economy from the above events has become worse?

      In the short term or long term?
    4. +1
      14 June 2016 10: 42
      And who has a public debt of about 20 trillion, Russia or what? America is a giant soap bubble, what kind of economy? if you have the opportunity to talk with the Americans on this topic, they will tell you a lot of interesting things
      1. 0
        14 June 2016 11: 14
        Quote: vkfriendly
        And who has a public debt of about 20 trillion, Russia or what? America is a giant soap bubble, what kind of economy? if you have the opportunity to talk with the Americans on this topic, they will tell you a lot of interesting things

        Giant soap bubble, say? So why do the Russian authorities invest their already scarce money in this bubble by buying US government bonds. Are they enemies themselves?
        1. +3
          14 June 2016 11: 59
          This is a cunning plan, although they seize the economy of America! Fear Obamka!
          1. +2
            14 June 2016 12: 10
            Quote: SokolfromRussia
            This is a cunning plan, although they seize the economy of America! Fear Obamka!

            Obama does not sleep at night, and is afraid of Russian cunning plans smile .
        2. +1
          14 June 2016 13: 26
          Quote: razmik72
          Are they enemies themselves?

          Someone with brains is tense, and someone is, yes, enemies. and there are a lot of them. You need to be completely blind to not see it.
        3. +2
          15 June 2016 07: 53
          Not the Russian authorities, but the Central Bank, which, like a regular bank, is looking for liquid investments, which would be rich, he not only buys, but also sells when there is a profit.
  10. +6
    14 June 2016 07: 24
    Putin, or his General Staff, acts against Washington and his European vassals in exactly the opposite way - he is in no hurry.


    And rightly so ... the problem should ripen like an apple and only then can it be easily eaten.
    1. +1
      14 June 2016 09: 46
      Quote: The same Lech
      Putin, or his General Staff, acts against Washington and his European vassals in exactly the opposite way - he is in no hurry.


      And rightly so ... the problem should ripen like an apple and only then can it be easily eaten.

      Well, of course, the apple itself should fall under your feet, it’s so elementary smile .
  11. +3
    14 June 2016 07: 39
    Quote: sa-ag
    We place our bets, gentlemen, I bet on "black" - Great Britain will remain in the EU :-)

    One of the options is that the majority of those who vote will vote for the exit, according to rumors in Scotland there were stuffings, but they showed what was needed.
    Surveys of various newspapers in Britain show that the majority is out.
    Therefore, everything can be ...
  12. -3
    14 June 2016 07: 54
    God save the Tsar!
    Strong, powerful,
    Reign for glory, for glory to us!
    Reign for fear of enemies
    The Orthodox King!
    God save the Tsar!

    fellow
    1. +2
      14 June 2016 08: 42
      Quote: RedBaron
      God save the Tsar!

      Not a ride, but the Soviet, albeit redone, people will sing.
      1. 0
        14 June 2016 09: 16
        Is it that the fabulist Mikhalkov remade three times ?.
        I don’t even know the words, the next. And I don’t know anyone who knows them. Over 30 years, the development model has changed three times. You need to start not with the anthem, but with the history textbook.
    2. 0
      14 June 2016 10: 23
      Quote: RedBaron
      God save the Tsar!
      Strong, powerful,
      Reign for glory, for glory to us!
      Reign for fear of enemies
      The Orthodox King!
      God save the Tsar!


      Do you sing about Rothschild?
      1. -1
        14 June 2016 10: 27
        Quote: AllXVahhaB
        Quote: RedBaron
        God save the Tsar!
        Strong, powerful,
        Reign for glory, for glory to us!
        Reign for fear of enemies
        The Orthodox King!
        God save the Tsar!


        Do you sing about Rothschild?

        Learn the history of undergrowth.
        1. 0
          14 June 2016 11: 48
          Quote: RedBaron
          Learn the history of undergrowth.

          American?
          1. +1
            14 June 2016 12: 13
            Quote: AllXVahhaB
            Quote: RedBaron
            Learn the history of undergrowth.

            American?

            And then the anthem of the Russian Empire and the Rothschilds, are you our "wise"?
  13. +2
    14 June 2016 08: 05
    It makes sense to help those who do something, for example, like Assad. And the Russians in Ukraine, who are waiting for someone to clean the "Agiyevye stables" for them, will be helped by a thankless task, this is their choice. And all the talk about kinship, brotherhood, the Russian land ... is to lure Russia into a "minefield". In Russia, there are enough of its own problems, when will the president finally pay attention to domestic politics and begin to establish elementary order.
    1. +1
      14 June 2016 08: 33
      And then what do the prime minister and the government do?
      1. -1
        14 June 2016 08: 41
        prime minister and government?
        If you mean Russia, then we have no premieres under the constitution. Perhaps you consider yourself a patriot?
        1. -1
          14 June 2016 08: 52
          Who cares who I consider myself to be?
          1. 0
            14 June 2016 10: 28
            Quote: Igor39
            Who cares who I consider myself to be?

            Are you not interested in who you are mistaken for? For me, this is how you troll the branch. You have only one slogan - “Down with the government!” I have not taken anything else out of your posts.
      2. +3
        14 June 2016 09: 48
        Quote: Igor39
        And then what do the prime minister and the government do?

        The prime minister is specially set for you to take all the flaws on yourself.
      3. +3
        14 June 2016 13: 31
        Quote: Igor39
        And then what do the prime minister and the government do?

        Basically, by their personal affairs.
  14. +1
    14 June 2016 08: 40
    Quote: ImPerts
    Quote: sa-ag
    We place our bets, gentlemen, I bet on "black" - Great Britain will remain in the EU :-)

    One of the options is that the majority of those who vote will vote for the exit, according to rumors in Scotland there were stuffings, but they showed what was needed.
    Surveys of various newspapers in Britain show that the majority is out.
    Therefore, everything can be ...


    And yet I bet that the UK will remain in the EU. In my opinion, the referendum was started with the aim of blackmailing Europe and getting preferences for themselves. Therefore, I think that they will remain in the EU. Although this referendum is a clear indication that not everything is so great in "the best houses in Paris and London."
  15. +4
    14 June 2016 08: 51
    In my Putin phenomenon, this is to revive a perishing Russia and create conditions for Russia to occupy a proper place in world geopolitics as a superpower. You can agree or disagree, but call me at least one country in the world which, after the state in which Russia visited after 91 years, could be reborn and challenge the good (in the sense of an evil, but big) half of the world, consisting of the strongest states. If at the same time our economy is revived and the standard of living is like in Europe and the country enters the top three most powerful economies in the world, then it will be one of the greatest reformers in the history of the country, along with Peter the Great, Dmitry Donskoy, Alexander Nevsky, Catherine the Great, etc. .d. hi
  16. 0
    14 June 2016 08: 52
    We have already held referendums in the EU, all of them have a "recommendatory character" when their results do not coincide with the decisions of the governments. So the UK will remain in the EU, and now it is there on a special status with healthy preferences.
    1. -3
      14 June 2016 09: 53
      Quote: sedan
      We have already held referendums in the EU, all of them have a "recommendatory character" when their results do not coincide with the decisions of the governments. So the UK will remain in the EU, and now it is there on a special status with healthy preferences.

      I already wrote that Britain will leave the EU and enter as a country in EurAsEC, and there, you look, it will become a province of Russia with formal sovereignty, like my country is Armenia. laughing
      1. +2
        14 June 2016 13: 34
        Quote: razmik72
        Britain will leave the EU and enter as a country in EurAsEC, and there, you look, it will become the province of Russia

        That's just such happiness was not enough for Russia recourse
        1. +1
          14 June 2016 14: 11
          Quote: aleks26
          Quote: razmik72
          Britain will leave the EU and enter as a country in EurAsEC, and there, you look, it will become the province of Russia

          That's just such happiness was not enough for Russia recourse

          The dream of Russian tsars, starting with Ivan the Terrible. It was not for nothing that he wooed Elizabeth of England, but only this "bastard" kicked the tsar laughing .
      2. +1
        14 June 2016 14: 18
        Quote: razmik72
        with formal sovereignty like my country is Armenia

        Do you seriously think that if Russia leaves Armenia, you will have "informal sovereignty"?
        1. +1
          14 June 2016 14: 32
          Quote: sa-zz
          Quote: razmik72
          with formal sovereignty like my country is Armenia

          Do you seriously think that if Russia leaves Armenia, you will have "informal sovereignty"?

          I don’t believe anything, I just see that in order to erect a monument to the national hero Garegin Nzhdeh, you need to get permission in Moscow, otherwise Maria Zakharova expresses bewilderment to whom these Armenians erected a monument. It turns out that to erect a monument in Armenia, probably, needs to get permission from the Ministry of Culture of the Russian Federation or elsewhere. Today my comments came out a bit sarcastic, but it's not my fault, you can ask Maria Zakharova. smile .
          1. 0
            14 June 2016 15: 41
            I see no problems - put it. You are an independent country with a self-sufficient economy, surrounded by good neighborly attention.
            And Zakharova became interested in the issue of cooperation Nzhdeh with the Nazis:
            "... Then a government was organized in Zangezur, in which Nzhdeh took over as prime minister, minister of the armed forces and minister of foreign affairs. In this government, I was appointed minister of education and justice.
            Nzhdeh in Zangezur allowed the brutal murder of the Communists, alive dropping them from the Tatev rock into the abyss ...
            ... The facts of dropping the Bolsheviks from the Tatev rock into the abyss were first known to a very limited circle of Dashnak leaders, who, in the person of Ruben Ter-Minasyan (Ruben Pasha), Amo Oganjanyan and Vratsyan Simon, tried to keep in strict confidence.
            This action of him even became the subject of discussion by the party court, which gathered in Tauris to examine the case of Nzhdeh, accused, as I know from the Dashnaks, of beating Minister of Food Hakob Ter-Hakobyan, killing officer of the Dashnak army Aslanyan, and household corruption.
            Question: How do you understand "Tsegakron"?
            Answer: If we clarify the word "Tsegakron", then we get admiration for the race and the preservation of its purity, which is tantamount to Nazism-Hitlerism. Thus, Nzhdeh with his "Tsegakron" propagandized fascism in Armenian reality ...
            Question: Continue your testimony about Nzhdeh ...
            ... During the Second World War, Nzhdeh began to actively cooperate with the Germans. He was a member of the Armenian National Council, organized by German governing bodies with the task of using Armenians in the victory of German fascism and organizing a bourgeois-national government in Armenia in case of occupation of Soviet Armenia by the Germans.
            Nzhdeh recruited 40 a man of Armenian officers and military from Bulgaria and sent to study in the suburbs of Berlin, where they, having trained for several months, were sent to the Crimea against Soviet troops..."
            http://www.bvahan.com/armenianway/AW/Njdeh_KGB/Part02.html
            1. -1
              14 June 2016 17: 06
              Quote: ImPerts
              I see no problems - put it. You are an independent country with a self-sufficient economy, surrounded by good neighborly attention.
              And Zakharova became interested in the issue of cooperation Nzhdeh with the Nazis:
              "... Then a government was organized in Zangezur, in which Nzhdeh took over as prime minister, minister of the armed forces and minister of foreign affairs. In this government, I was appointed minister of education and justice.
              Nzhdeh in Zangezur allowed the brutal murder of the Communists, alive dropping them from the Tatev rock into the abyss ...
              ... The facts of dropping the Bolsheviks from the Tatev rock into the abyss were first known to a very limited circle of Dashnak leaders, who, in the person of Ruben Ter-Minasyan (Ruben Pasha), Amo Oganjanyan and Vratsyan Simon, tried to keep in strict confidence.
              This action of him even became the subject of discussion by the party court, which gathered in Tauris to examine the case of Nzhdeh, accused, as I know from the Dashnaks, of beating Minister of Food Hakob Ter-Hakobyan, killing officer of the Dashnak army Aslanyan, and household corruption.
              Question: How do you understand "Tsegakron"?
              Answer: If we clarify the word "Tsegakron", then we get admiration for the race and the preservation of its purity, which is tantamount to Nazism-Hitlerism. Thus, Nzhdeh with his "Tsegakron" propagandized fascism in Armenian reality ...
              Question: Continue your testimony about Nzhdeh ...
              ... During the Second World War, Nzhdeh began to actively cooperate with the Germans. He was a member of the Armenian National Council, organized by German governing bodies with the task of using Armenians in the victory of German fascism and organizing a bourgeois-national government in Armenia in case of occupation of Soviet Armenia by the Germans.
              Nzhdeh recruited 40 a man of Armenian officers and military from Bulgaria and sent to study in the suburbs of Berlin, where they, having trained for several months, were sent to the Crimea against Soviet troops..."
              http://www.bvahan.com/armenianway/AW/Njdeh_KGB/Part02.html

              Garegin Nzhdeh did the right thing by throwing the Armenian communists off the cliffs. At that time, little Armenia fought simultaneously with Kemalist Turkey and Bolshevik Russia. Communists called on Armenian soldiers to lay down their arms and surrender to the Turks, they considered them "friends" of the Armenian people. If such types were caught, I would have shot the alarmist and provocateur without hesitation. And as for the fact that Nzhdeh sent 40 Armenians to study in Germany, this does not implore his services to the Armenian people. For this, after the war, he was arrested and in 1955 he died in the Vladimir prison. Field Marshal Paulus in 1943 was captured by the Soviet Union, lived happily ever after in a separate dacha near Moscow, he had a personal adjutant, after Stalin's death he was quickly released and sent to Germany. All the "guilt" of Nzhdeh before the Russians lies in the fact that he attracted several dozen Armenians to the service of Germany, and Field Marshal Paulus commanded the German troops at Stalingrad and the troops under his commandkilled hundreds of thousands of Soviet soldiers and officers. In St. Petersburg they were going to install a memorial plaque on the house where the officer of the tsarist army Mannerheim lived. I hope you know the history and know what troubles Marshal Mannerheim caused the USSR.
              If this is the approach to history, then the great Stalin and Molotov also collaborated with fascist Germany, but I did not sign the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact in 1939.
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                14 June 2016 19: 22
                Well, if you approach from this point of view, then Nzhdeh is no match for Mannerheim. Although I have a negative attitude towards both. And I repeat:
                Quote: ImPerts
                I see no problems - put it. You are an independent country with a self-sufficient economy, surrounded by good neighborly attention.

                And about the secret protocols, at least someone saw the original? No, only an incomprehensible copy. The big question. Further, you think that by pointing to the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact, you made me unpleasant and painful? You are mistaken, the big ship is a great voyage.
                And how independent Armenia will swim - we will see more))) Probably good Americans will help reconcile with the Turks and Azerbaijanis.
                Little and proud Armenia.
                Quote: razmik72
                All Nzhdeh's "fault" before the Russians is that he attracted several dozen Armenians to the service of Germany.

                Yes, therefore, Zakharova had a question.
                And about Paulus, leveling Nzhdeh and Mannerheim, Nzhdeh and Paulus ... How to level a large cat type of a lion with a tiger and mei-kun ... As they say, if you do not like cats, you just do not know how to cook them.
                Z.Y. Stalin prepared them all.
                Z.Z.Y. It reminds me very much of Poland, she always tried to be friends with everyone against Russia / the USSR. And always everything ended with another popolob.
                1. +1
                  14 June 2016 20: 07
                  To whom we, the Armenians, erect monuments on our land, this is purely our internal affair, not Maria Zakharova to demand clarification, several cheap corrupt politicians-Armenians created the illusion among the Russians that they can speak the language of ultimatums. Your ranting about the value of Garegin Nzhdeh and the classification of the hero of the Armenian people as a class lower than Mannerheim clearly shows the limitations and wretchedness of your mind.
                  1. +3
                    15 June 2016 06: 35
                    Quote: razmik72
                    To whom we, the Armenians, erect monuments on our land, this is purely our internal affair,

                    Quote: ImPerts
                    Well, if you approach from this point of view, then Nzhdeh is no match for Mannerheim. Although I have a negative attitude towards both. And I repeat:
                    Quote: ImPerts
                    I see no problems - put it. You are an independent country with a self-sufficient economy, surrounded by good neighborly attention.

                    Quote: razmik72
                    several cheap corrupt politicians-Armenians created an illusion among Russians that one can speak the language of ultimatums with the Armenian people

                    And what you, what ultimatums ?! Naked pragmatism. It will be unpleasant if Turks, Americans, NATO settle down in Gyumri ... But we will survive this too. And I will be very happy if these good people increase your (country) self-esteem!
                    Quote: razmik72
                    Your ranting about the value of Garegin Nzhdeh and the classification of the hero of the Armenian people as a class lower than Mannerheim, clearly shows the limitations and wretchedness of your mind.

                    Where are we to the poor and wretched Lapotniks ?!
                    It's not to blow up carrots in trolleybuses ...
  17. +1
    14 June 2016 08: 53
    Dear, this is another attempt to consider the US policy, so to speak, a different opinion on events, but with the same imperial bias. It is Putin's "soft" policy that allows you to feel comfortable in all positions for the time being.
  18. +9
    14 June 2016 09: 08
    I’m embarrassed to ask how it was necessary to work with Ukraine before the coup?
    Is not Russia subsidizing its industry, is it not giving its citizens the opportunity to work in the Russian Federation, is it that Ukrainian goods were not sold in Russia without duties and extra charges. How else did you have to work? Giving more money or trying to prove that in Russia is better than in Europe. To build factories in / in Ukraine (for example, you could build another plant in Lviv) and then hear, but if we were in the EU, we would collect Mercedes.
    You see, they want to go to Europe and don’t need to bother them (there are pensions and salaries of 3000 euros), they need to be done so that the interests of our country are respected, even at the cost of the collapse and suffering of citizens of another territorial entity.
  19. +3
    14 June 2016 09: 55
    Good morning, comrades.
    Unfortunately, we are used to reacting after the fact, whether it is Ukraine or Syria, which has always caused a lot of questions.
    Despite this, it is nice to see our army reborn and national interests defended in the international arena.
  20. +1
    14 June 2016 10: 05
    This is the problem of the West and our luck - the Anglo-Saxons, like all Europeans, are too impatient, they want to quickly solve everything with one blow. They need to take an example from China, that's who is in no hurry and kaktit like a skating rink! The Chinese believe that if they win in 200 years, they have won now, such a mentality, and therefore they do not fuss. And you force events, as if the "end of history" is really coming. But with the Russians it is impossible! The harder you press on us, the more we consolidate, resist and break all opponents! Our entire history shows it! But without haste to corrupt us, corrupt, decompose and “strangle us in a friendly embrace” is quite possible ...
    But either they are stupid, or they really have no time ...
  21. +2
    14 June 2016 10: 09
    After a bunch of senility, weak-minded idiots and corrupt alcoholics - Putin as the country's leader looks good. But to Peter 1, Catherine the Great, or Nicholas 1 to him like walking to the moon ...
    1. +2
      14 June 2016 18: 34
      Boy, you got excited about the moon. And as for the comparison with Peter and Catherine, let's wait about three hundred years. In the long run, however, everything will be more visible.
  22. +4
    14 June 2016 10: 13
    However, the “unthinkable” happened, according to American political scientists, Russia has not changed its policy, that is, it has not recognized Ukraine as a US colony.

    And which Ukraine has Russia recognized? And Poroshenko, what’s the best choice? And gas at a discount, coal and electricity to whom? And who was the Minsk disgrace with? Recognized, the storyteller Victor, even as recognized. And as Bandera, and as a colony in which the Amer administration does whatever it wants. From leadership of special services to the appointment of ministers.
    «
    The unthinkable ”for Washington was that Russia surfaced like an iceberg from the abyss of the Cold War, and tore open the lining of the aircraft carrier“ America ”...

    What is this? The purchase of bonds and estates in Miami, the departure of engineers, scientists and former ministers, the flight of capital, pegging to the dollar, technological dependence?
    And took the position of a superpower equivalent to America.
    Well yes. We are straining America with color revolutions around the perimeter of the border, while Cuba and Venezuela are building missile defense with us.
    and the Western press was hysterical about the “Putin phenomenon”, struck by “Putin's syndrome”.

    I don’t know how the press is, but the author is definitely struck by the syndrome.
    Yes, in the Donbass our people perish under the shelling of Bandera,

    What are they yours? Yours is Putin, Medvedev, Kudrin, Lavrov and other Chubaisodvorkovichs.
  23. 0
    14 June 2016 10: 21
    On the tale of the "Phenomenon" by V. Kamenev, a little of the tale about "Prynets Vova" from Amphora.

    Tsar Boris once called a boy to Vova, put him on the throne and said - look, Vova, you are now my crown prince. Sit still, hold on tight, do not let strangers, do not let your own. In the sense of mine. But most importantly, remember that you are not the king, but the regent, so do not touch anything. And remember, Vova, that they will be watching you - our overseas friends and Uncle Chubais. And if you disobey the order - there will be ana-na.
    At first, Vova was very worried - how is it to manage the kingdom - these are such worries, such difficulties, this is how much you need to know and how much to do ...
    But then I remembered that Tsar Boris asked me not to touch anything, tried it - and it worked.
    And it turned out that it’s not so difficult.
    All that had to be done in the kingdom was done by special uncles. And when Vova had to say something - special uncles wrote on a piece of paper, Vova read and praised him.
    And the decisions were also made by special uncles, and Vova only had to put a signature and talk about what the right decision was made.
    And everything turned out very well for Vova.
    And he was allowed to play at the Olympics.
    But then either the special uncles advised Vova too much, or the little head was spinning a little from the Olympic successes - for a moment Vova forgot that Tsar Boris bequeathed nothing to touch. And he took up the Crimea.
    And then the commotion began!
    Special uncles ran in, a noise arose, somewhere they started to shoot, and then a very important Uncle Burkhalter came to Vova and showed the documents, from which there was such an ana that Vova understood - just a little more and they would beat him. And not just legs.
    Since then, Prince Vova has been sitting and doing only what he knows best from his earliest childhood - to obey his elders and not touch anything.
    And all because, although Vova grew up in various places, he made acquaintances with the biggest uncles (and aunts too), even became a prince in the largest kingdom in the world, but he remained a boy - simple and obedient, who’s nothing, in addition to two things, he did not learn to do something.
    Such a fairy tale.
    1. +2
      14 June 2016 14: 28
      Quote: Karabin
      a little fairy tale about "Prynets Vova"

      Nonsense!
      1. +2
        14 June 2016 17: 12
        Quote: sa-zz
        Nonsense!

        No more than the works of Kamenev.
  24. 0
    14 June 2016 10: 24
    Russia is acting out of its capabilities. In Ukraine came to power "golden youth", the sons of the party leaders of the districts and regions of the Ukrainian SSR. These little people, except for robbery, will do nothing. Let's wait, like the Chinese, life in Ukraine is getting worse literally by the day, I think the people will not tolerate it for long.
    1. +1
      14 June 2016 17: 46
      we will endure further, all non-kosher maidans will crush in the bud
  25. +1
    14 June 2016 10: 29
    Quote: Igor39
    So Putin himself convinced Yanukovych not to use force against the Maidan, he talked about it himself, and then helped him escape. But if he said to extinguish all the maydowns, then everything could have been different. And so in the country, the golden eagle was framed, civil is war a success?

    PS Who zombie maidan?

    As I. Stalin said (if I'm not mistaken): the death of one person is a tragedy, the death of millions is a statistic. What Putin thought and said to Yanukovych, what benefit he planned to receive from the Maidan (political, economic and military) we might not know. But the facts: Crimea as part of Russia, Putin's ratings are only growing, Europe in the person of Bandera Ukraine received another hemorrhoids. I’m not saying that everything is wonderful with us, but we didn’t survive it either.
    1. +1
      14 June 2016 22: 54
      Quote: erik cartman
      What Putin thought and said to Yanukovych, what benefit he planned to receive from the Maidan (political, economic and military) we might not know. But the facts: Crimea as part of Russia, Putin's ratings are only growing, Europe in the person of Bandera Ukraine received another hemorrhoids

      Do you really think that the operation, as a result of which we received only the Crimea, but lost all of Ukraine, was a bargain?!?
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  27. +1
    14 June 2016 12: 14
    Demos was considered part of the people, which had the right to have slaves.

    Ochlos was considered a part of the people who did NOT have the right to have slaves.

    Therefore, the first had weapons.

    Accordingly, democracy is the power of a part of the people that has the right to have slaves
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  28. +1
    14 June 2016 12: 38
    It used to be so, now democracy is narrowly focused ...
  29. +2
    14 June 2016 12: 41
    The phenomenon lies in the fact that it is worth uttering the magic words "Putin's friends" and as if by magic, a person rises above the law, people, law enforcement agencies - society, in a word. This is a phenomenon so a phenomenon. Examples of darkness, Rome in decline.
  30. 0
    14 June 2016 13: 24
    Quote: razmik72
    Quote: vkfriendly
    And who has a public debt of about 20 trillion, Russia or what? America is a giant soap bubble, what kind of economy? if you have the opportunity to talk with the Americans on this topic, they will tell you a lot of interesting things

    Giant soap bubble, say? So why do the Russian authorities invest their already scarce money in this bubble by buying US government bonds. Are they enemies themselves?

    Not the Russian authorities, but the Central Bank, which, like a regular bank, is looking for liquid investments, which would be rich, he not only buys, but also sells when there is a profit.
  31. +3
    14 June 2016 13: 27
    Putin, or his General Staff, acts against Washington and his European vassals in exactly the opposite way - he is in no hurry. Not in a hurry, one way or another, to resolve the armed conflict in Ukraine,


    Such a calm and "unhurried" author could be understood if the hostilities were not taking place in Donbass, but somewhere far from the Russian borders. But when the enemies arrange a war on your border, by the hands of your compatriots, then it is no longer necessary to rant about some kind of "professionalism" of the authorities.
    In the film about how Crimea was annexed, Putin said that they then made decisions "just from the wheels" - this suggests that NOT ANYTHING STRATEGY neither in relation to the former republics of the USSR nor in relation to the "Russian World". Maybe now they are developing some kind of strategy, but again this is a game with a lag of twenty-five years from the opponents. And at the present time, the processes have accelerated so much that such lags lead to more and more losses. And these losses can be fatal.
  32. -3
    14 June 2016 13: 52
    Enter Putin into Ukraine, in an attempt not to lose Ukraine and amuse the patriots, but at the exit they got the same Ukraine, an independent republic that dreams of a European house, which blames the damned mo.sk.al.ey. in all its troubles. and now we are to blame too. but Europeans are just as well. I think. that we will witness the closure of the Ukraine project, and the emergence of new areas in adjacent states !!!
    (but it won't be fast)
    1. +2
      14 June 2016 17: 52
      Kostya Andreev, this statement by Otto von Bismarck is for you: “The power of Russia can only be undermined by the separation of Ukraine from it ... it is necessary not only to tear off, but also to oppose Ukraine to Russia. To do this, you just need to find and nurture the traitors among the elite and, with their help, change the identity of one part of the great people to such an extent that they will hate everything Russian, hate their kind, without realizing it. Everything else is a matter of time. ” What the Americans did and bleeding us with the Ukrainians. So think what you write.
      1. -2
        14 June 2016 19: 50
        And besides Bismarck YOU read about Ukraine and Russia at the BUSH, and then give advice
    2. 0
      14 June 2016 20: 44
      That’s why it was all about.
  33. +2
    14 June 2016 16: 10
    Remember: Washington demanded that Russia change its policy on Nazi-Bandera Ukraine to please America and begin to cooperate with the Bandera regime.


    and, cheated, doesn’t it cooperate?
    1. -1
      14 June 2016 16: 54
      A thin world, better than a good fight ...
      Quote: Onegin
      Remember: Washington demanded that Russia change its policy on Nazi-Bandera Ukraine to please America and cooperate with the Bandera regime.

      There is no pleasing to America, but there are Russians who still tolerate this regime, we help and cooperate with them ..
      1. 0
        14 June 2016 17: 17
        all buns are enough for LDNR and Kiev, Russia a generous soul
  34. 0
    14 June 2016 17: 43
    Quote: korvin1976
    Personally, I am normal towards the Jews, but I hate the Jews fiercely. Not every Jew is Jewish, and not every Jew is Jewish.
    It has always been implied that zh.d is a bad person profiting at the expense of others, whether by deception, in other bad ways.

    If we recall the church, then Jesus and the churchmen because of whom he was crucified were Jews. Only now the churchmen were just Jews. In fact, Jesus was not crucified because of faith, but because he came to the temple and drove out merchants (Jews) from there, and the clergy who had a good bribe from these merchants were not happy with this.

    PS for the administration: I know that some words are forbidden, but in this text they’re not like without them, and they don’t carry, in essence, an offensive character, to one or another nationality


    Man, Jesus was crucified by the Romans, not the Jews. The Jews just betrayed him :)
    1. +3
      14 June 2016 21: 28
      Quote: Oskar1965
      Man, Jesus was crucified by the Romans, not the Jews. The Jews just betrayed him :)


      Man, Jesus was condemned to death by the Sanhedrin (Council of Jewish High Priests), the Romans simply executed the sentence.
      Everything is "putty".
  35. +3
    14 June 2016 18: 12
    In current realities, this little article seems sooooo thick trolling ...
  36. +4
    14 June 2016 19: 47
    Elementaryly, even in Sevastopol there was no normal Russian cultural center, but the Enlightenment in all holes glowed with a plug. I’m just silent about Kiev ...
  37. +1
    14 June 2016 20: 13
    Quote: Kostya Andreev
    Oskar1965 Today, 17:52 ↑
    Kostya Andreev, this statement by Otto von Bismarck is for you: “The power of Russia can only be undermined by the separation of Ukraine from it ... it is necessary not only to tear off, but also to oppose Ukraine to Russia. To do this, you just need to find and nurture the traitors among the elite and, with their help, change the identity of one part of the great people to such an extent that they will hate everything Russian, hate their kind, without realizing it. Everything else is a matter of time. ” What the Americans did and bleeding us with the Ukrainians. So think what you write.
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    Kostya Andreyev (1) Today, 19:50 ↑ New
    And besides Bismarck YOU read about Ukraine and Russia at the BUSH, and then give advice

    in order to save you time: http://maxpark.com/community/13/content/2601897 Bush Sr. 1992 year. About the collapse of the USSR, about Ukraine and Russia.
    // - Mr. President, do you think that the loss of Ukraine is good for the Russians, but here is the former National Security Advisor ...

    - Are you talking about Brzezinski? Village politician Jimmy couldn’t distinguish an apple from a cow’s cake and therefore listened to idiots and clowns. I voluntarily resigned from the post of the Director of the CIA, so that my name would not be related to this booth later on. Brzezinski wrote that without Ukraine, Russia would never become an Empire. So it was in those days. But this is the rule of the 20th century, and we will live in the 21st.

    Do you know why the Russians needed Ukraine? Then, that there the population growth is higher than in Russia itself. In past wars, Russians needed Ukrainians to have someone to throw with grenades under German tanks. Only. But as soon as they had nuclear weapons and missiles, the meaning of keeping so many hungry mouths became negative. It is easier for Russians to raise the standard of living of their Russian population, so that Ukrainians work for them in the same way that Mexicans work for us and for us. It’s not necessary to fight a rifle and grenades in a modern war anyway. And so, they do not need a military oath of Ukrainians ... //

    //- It's all in numbers. The main consumers of rural farms in the Union were in Ukraine. Ukraine is leaving - the Russians are closing the "black hole" in the budget for subsidies for the village. The main consumers of social assistance were located in Central Asia and the Caucasus. If there is no Union, then Russia, the main earner for the Union budget, stops subsidizing its large Muslim republics. And then - arithmetic, - Ukraine, Central Asia and the Transcaucasus find themselves with budget deficits and plunge into the abyss of despair, Russia turns out to have budget surpluses and its treasury turns out to be bigger and more powerful than the Soviet one. And then she will return with a triumph and remember us all, but our economy already has a boundary condition - zero profit. My opponent, Clinton, promises to “stimulate the economy,” which means that we are in debt, and our economy is in a state where we can no longer afford to borrow. This means that our budget will be negative and over time we, as a country, will become naked and barefoot, and the Russians will be rich and powerful. //

    So, before you trump the knowledge of the statements of one politician, you need to bring another. and the reader himself will choose the correct option in his opinion.
    Minus from you I think is not deserved.
  38. +1
    15 June 2016 00: 54
    This is not the "Phenomenon of Putin", this is the Phenomenon of the Russian people
  39. +1
    15 June 2016 05: 27
    Quote: Igor39
    Putin and the General Staff are in no hurry and took up Ukraine after the Bandera coup, that’s the problem, you had to deal with it before, you see, there wasn’t a coup

    Nationalism in Kiev was nurtured by the Central Committee of the Communist Party of Ukraine. Back in the seventies, when I arrived there after school, I was puzzled by the fighting spirit of the nationalization of culture. Although, just then the film "White bird with a black mark (Biliy ptah with a black mark)" was released - a signal for the Ukrainianization of culture, although, no - the signal was given during the "thaw" - Parajanov's film "Shadows of Forgotten Ancestors". On the occasion of the centenary of the birth of V. I. Lenin, political prisoners have been amnestied, presumably, Bandera's members too. The theme of Bandera, as Westerners-monsters, was suppressed by Khrushchev, Podgorny, Shelest, Shcherbitsky and Brezhnev ... The atrocities in Khatyn were attributed to the Germans ...
    It seems like everything is fine, "but something is not good." Under Gorbachev, nationalism in Kiev flared up so brightly that it ignited all of Ukraine. However, then all the republics were already on fire. Without the long and painstaking work of the Central Committee of the CPSU to liquidate the USSR, such a process would not have started simultaneously in all republics. And the launch happened in the mid-1950s. Hungary, Andropov Ambassador. USSR 1970-1980s Andropov - Chairman of the KGB, Secretary General ...
    Stirlitz was merciless to the enemies of the Reich. The character is Nordic ... But Isaev was an enemy of the Reich. And the surname is not Nordic ...
    Such are the classes to prevent the Maidan.
  40. +1
    15 June 2016 10: 24
    [quote = populist] [quote] Winnie76
    We are not America everywhere poke their nose [/ quote]
    Ukraine is not "everywhere", it is the Russian land.
    Previously, it was necessary to work, before the Maidan. [/ Qu

    I do not want to offend, but it can be more specific with time. Let’s still Kievan Rus recall the whole broken into principalities, where was the Crimea (?), What is the land of Kiev and who is Vyatichi.
    Maybe in the Bialowieza Accords of 1991. it was necessary to amend that our land is from Kerch to Lviv?
    Remember the departure of the president (the first in the Russian Federation) and the Kursk nuclear submarine not so long ago, in what grave condition our country was, remember the press conference with the relatives of the victims, the hysterical cries of mothers.
    And after 16 years, we are again the most. There is no such thing.
    When did you manage to calculate any timid steps in foreign policy? They said: "No!"
    And then it began: sanctions, NATO to the East, even to Sharapova reached meldonium.
    Do not forget about the African continent, there, too, it is necessary to return to previous positions.
    The movement towards independence from Europe and the United States is associated with huge costs.
    So "stay there." I personally can hold out, but will the phenomenon continue, or again everything will be divided into principalities.
  41. +1
    15 June 2016 18: 41
    God grant ...
  42. Erg
    -1
    16 June 2016 01: 21
    Putin is no longer the one the corrupt alcoholic chose. Understand how you want. I do not know what forces stand behind Him. But something inside tells me that he is allowed to cross borders ...
    1. +1
      16 June 2016 01: 37
      Quote: Erg
      Putin is no longer the one the corrupt alcoholic chose.

      the redhead dragged him
      Quote: Erg
      I don’t know what forces are behind

      The forces are the same, the same vector.
      Quote: Erg
      But something inside tells me that he is allowed to cross borders ...

      Like, "It doesn't matter which roads we choose, but what is important is what sits inside us and makes us choose these roads!"
      classic, heh wink
  43. 0
    16 June 2016 14: 49
    Remember: Washington demanded that Russia change its policy on Nazi-Bandera Ukraine to please America and began to collaborate with the Bandera regime.


    Of course we remember what Most importantly, the President of the Russian Federation, elected by the people (!!!), remembered that all his activities are not connected with justifying the negativity, which is full in the country, not with explaining the reasons for the sluggish opposition of all sorts of "padloffs" that prevent our country from breathing freely, deeply belay , and even more so, not fostered by the heads of the Russian government, advising to stick around, because "there is no money" (where not? Who does not? Why not? belay )
    We even remember that he has so many opportunities and rights that he did not see all kinds of references to "he did not see in time, did not report, believed in the truthfulness of his subordinates, did not suspend the moratorium on the death penalty and did not tighten measures for complete confiscation" belay crying that all attempts to postpone the "showdown" for the 2020s at leaststop - nonsense ...
  44. +1
    16 June 2016 23: 54
    Imagine such a "fabulous situation" in your family: you come home and a stranger sits there and says:
    - Now you and your wife will give your salary to me, and I will decide where to spend the money! Well, that is, now how would you have your money, okay !?
    Well, of course, you are a strong and decisive man screaming for a fight ... and this stranger uncle whistled and three ambuls came out of the closet and look at you in silence ...
    In general, everyone settled and decided that from today you work as before and give salaries to someone else's uncle. And He (someone else’s uncle) will decide where to spend the money - for your children - or for parties (well, such as the Olympic Games and World Cups ...)
    This is the situation today in RUSSIA, dear citizens! And before discussing anything - you need to take away the Central Bank of the Russian Federation from private gangsters who print Russian money (how much they want and when they want) They want to give for the development of the economy, but they want not to! It’s not the World Cups that need to be held, but the return of 25 million Russian people from foreign lands, where they ended up through the fault of the traitors of the Russian people — the Yeltsins and others ... Comrade Putin should have started the board with the construction of 30 new million-plus cities, and many thousands of factories factories (they were closed and looted more than 30 thousand)
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      23 June 2016 11: 13
      Quote: duhmorey
      Imagine such a "fabulous situation"

      - yeah .. Young man, knock out the porridge from the Moggas that someone (Fedorov? Glazyev? neighbor Vasf? Yes, I’m exactly) put it there
      - try (since you are already writing on such topics) at least a little bit of what is happening (it's a pity that right now it's not the 90s. In those days, those who were "indecipherable" and climbing into the incomprehensible - they immediately determined .. well .. eternal memory)
      - read carefully about the National Banking Council ... before the disgrace .. The Central Bank will not breathe without it, nor .. this .. back .. cannot ..
      - link where you can read:

  45. +1
    17 June 2016 06: 57
    Quote: Winnie76
    Previously, how is it? Yanukovych zombie or bomb Maidan?

    even earlier, to sacrifice one hunting estate in the 91st, you would look differently everything turned out.