In the Russian General Staff, the calculations of American analysts who predicted the seizure of the Baltic States in 60 hours were considered to be unjustifiably inflated.

Russia is capable of smashing NATO troops and seizing the Baltic countries in less than 60 hours, said Pentagon’s deputy head of the Russian Federation, Ukraine and Eurasia, Michael Carpenter. According to him, "with such an attempt, Russia will have advantages in time and distance."

“We are working on the situation, we will deploy troops and equipment so as to prevent aggression from Russia,” he said.

And, as is known, the American military equipment is already in full swing in the Baltic States. A number of local politicians even said that they were “sick of constant horror stories like“ Russians are coming! ””.

“But who supplies all these calculations to the Pentagon? It turns out that this is RAND, an American strategic research center that studies US national security issues, in which, by the way, there are a lot of professional intelligence officers working on a commercial basis, ” TVNZ.

“It seems to be serious men, but they are engaged in such crazy stuff.” Why should we go to the Baltics? What is the strategic goal? For sprats, or what? Or to re-build, like in the Soviet time, the Balts to build factories that they destroyed and closed by joining the European Union and NATO? Well, if we assume only theoretically that this could be, then these provocateurs, analysts from RAND, even insult us with their calculations. To complete such a task and an hour is enough ",

told the publication in the General Staff of the Armed Forces.

Comments

[vanavatny]

Already, it seems, they laughed about this crap, enough is enough, especially since this turbidity every two to three months is voiced with a slight shift in numbers

[oleg-gr]

Work out the Americans money. At the same time, they increase the self-esteem of local troops. To divert less money on diapers.

[Tatyana]

I don’t see anything “funny” in such conversations!
For historical practice shows that when such statements begin to be heard in the country, then, as a rule, in this case there is a latent concentration - on a CONSTANT (!) Basis - of a large number of troops and military equipment on the border of this aggressor state with a neighboring state - the victim.
And the CONSTANT foundation, according to military theory, is nothing but the NECESSARY mobilization component of the country's readiness for a real war.
This gives Russia a real reason in the hybrid war of the United States and the "collective West" against the Russian Federation. ACCUSING the Baltic countries as aggressor countries in a future war.
And Russia must internationally voice such an accusation! And do not be silent!

[sgazeev]

Quote: Tatiana

I don’t see anything “funny” in such conversations!
For historical practice shows that when such statements begin to be heard in the country, then, as a rule, in this case there is a latent concentration - on a CONSTANT (!) Basis - of a large number of troops and military equipment on the border of this aggressor state with a neighboring state - the victim.
And the CONSTANT foundation, according to military theory, is nothing but the NECESSARY mobilization component of the country's readiness for a real war.
This gives Russia a real reason in the hybrid war of the United States and the "collective West" against the Russian Federation. ACCUSING the Baltic countries as aggressor countries in a future war.
And Russia must internationally voice such an accusation! And do not be silent!

[iConst]

Well, that’s enough for them - 60 hours! Not less than 63!


Squid ...

[Mahmut]

Why should we climb into the Baltic states?

If NATO trample on Kaliningrad, then you have to climb. And not just to climb, but to demolish all these pseudo-state piles.

[complete zero]

but where is it (NATO) will trample ... it is unlikely that they would attack a nuclear power ... The United States is trying to get the Europeans to increase spending on weapons and the maintenance of American bases in Europe, and local politicians (European) should somehow report about " assimilation of the funds provided to them "so the image of a" Russian bear, armed to the teeth "is needed

[fennekRUS]

Quote: Mahmut

If NATO tramps on Kaliningrad,

Washes explain, for what purpose? Kaliningrad region is a solid military base. What benefit will the aggressor state gain from seizing this territory (given the price that will have to be paid for this)?

[mad]

Quote: fennekRUS

Washes explain, for what purpose? Kaliningrad region is a solid military base. What is the gain to the aggressor state from the seizure of this territory

At least neutralizes this very military base. There, people gathered not to give daisies to everyone ?!

[vandarus]

"Washes explain, for what purpose? The Kaliningrad region is a solid military base. What gain will the aggressor state receive from the seizure of this territory (given the price that will have to be paid for this)?"
With the aim of inflicting a military-political defeat on our country and solving US domestic political problems.

[fennekRUS]

Quote: vandarus

With the aim of inflicting a military-political defeat on our country and solving US domestic political problems.

which automatically means 3 world. And in the current situation, it is still unknown who. "Allies" (excluding the Young NATO members) are not particularly eager to fight. There are clearly not enough contractors for such an operation. And ourselves in a war with a large country to climb-electorate, any elite together with the police will carry. That's why I left a footnote about the price. Capture the CO-game all-in. Any "hawk" is well aware that the blitzkrieg will not work, which means there is a risk of losing his seat, and goodbye to the trickle of money. Shouting about the "Russian threat" and provoking a conflict with the hands of the limitrophes is as much as necessary. Then only obesity threatens the ass. And you can provide "credit assistance"

[complete zero]

Yes, they did not intercede for the Turks and the Turks are a real force in the region ... (Obama generally O, B, O, C, P, A, L, C, I am very fluid everywhere I could))) which Kaliningrad)))))

[vandarus]

No, this does not automatically mean the third world one. Nuclear weapons will be used if one of the parties finds itself in a hopeless situation (on the verge of defeat), regardless of any doctrines. Kaliningrad itself is not a goal, I repeat, the goal is the military-political defeat of our country and the solution of US domestic political problems.
Military-political defeat means a military defeat on a limited theater of operations, which entails the discrediting of the military and political will of the Russian Federation.
The solution to US domestic political problems - for example, withdrawing from settlements within the US in dollars or tightening the screws in domestic politics.
As for our ability to hold Kaliningrad, do not forget that along the shortest road we will have to break through a corridor 80 km long. All the time under air and rocket attacks on hostile territory. And they will find allies for this cause. Also Poland with pleasure.

[Volzhanin]

Who is there to demolish? A few thousand half-wagons and eight tanks? + -. Themselves run away like scalded, and the local Russians, who are non-citizens, they still stick kicks for speed.

[Tusv]

Quote: iConst

Well, that’s enough for them - 60 hours! Not less than 63!

0 hours, 0 minutes, 0 seconds.
For nafig not rested.
I served with
-build us a factory. The EU will build it. Further not translated local folklore, in the style of Dido Vasya. Who wants to write in a personal

[gav6757]

I think that a fairly large number of local residents would gladly go "under Russia"!
And if necessary, the Baltic States, I think, can be taken in a day, if there was a need for this ...

[iouris]

By the way, "overestimated" estimates (and not calculations) mean that according to the estimates of the General Staff it will take significantly less time (if the General Staff really made such statements).
But, in general, GSh needs to make fewer statements. Silence is gold.

[sabakina]

Tatyana, I have such a hunch that you don’t trust anyone. So maybe a boom ?.

[WKS]

Quote: Tatiana

And Russia must internationally voice such an accusation! And do not be silent!

To whom to voice something? Before the west? There they already know that they are nonsense, and to the rest of the world this Baltic and Ukraine do not care what Antarctica is.

[Tatyana]

In order for the aggressor to start an aggressive war, the authorities need to observe two components:
1. Get moral and psychological permission from your people for a war of conquest, as the last fair measure of the struggle against an insidious, cruel and barbaric enemy.
2. Gather around a coalition of allied countries on the basis of mutual economic. and political benefits for starting and winning this war.
Such preparation for war is called. in the theory of warfare PASSIVE aggression in comparison with the ACTIVE component of the war - i.e. military operations themselves. Understanding the meaning of the “passive” component of an aggression strategy is part of the concept of hybrid warfare.
If p. 2 is clear to everyone, then the meaning of p. 1 is not clear to everyone. But it is precisely in his execution that the information unfolds. war for the majority of the population of the aggressor country - even frank provocations played out on behalf of and under the flag of the victim country.
USA and the “collective. For the West, ”for the war against the Russian Federation, it is necessary to distort the image of the Russians before representing them in the eyes of the townsfolk - the majority of the European population of NATO countries and the world community - as wild barbarians. And they succeed. And many forum users believe that this does not make sense to attach any special significance. And this is wrong.
See how the Anglo-Saxons and their Ukrainian wards of the “Right Sector” - the enemies of Russia - work closely together, using the example of provocative masses. fights English. and Ross. football fans in marseille.

Marseille, June 12th. The instigators of the masses. the fights after the match between the national teams of the Russian Federation and England at Euro 2016 in Marseilles were actually fighters of a banned terrorist in Russia. “Right Sector” organization, Polytexpert reports with reference to its source.
According to the source, the "pravoseki" sailed on a Cypriot fishing vessel in order to cause unrest under the guise of Russians. The source drew special attention to the fact that this incident was widely covered in the Western media, and everywhere it was called the mass brawl of "Russian and English fans" before the match between the national teams of Russia and England.
A source said that the attackers were completely dressed in black, hid their faces under black balaclavas, and spoke Russian. Foreign journalists hastened to christen all this as a riot of Russians, which made another contribution to the demonization of the image of Russia by the Western media.
Officially, the Russian fans were also blamed for everything that happened. Representatives of the International Football Federation (FIFA) said that in preparing for the World Cup in 2018, the Russian side will take into account the mistakes made by the organizers of Euro 2016 in France.
See - http://riafan.ru/529106-poboishche-fanatov-v-marsele-nachali-boicy-pravogo-sekto
ra-pod-vidom-russian

Russian fans were happy. Match England - Russia ended in a draw, cat. for our team much more than a draw. Almost a victory. This unexpected result shocked both thousands of bookmakers around the world, and millions of fans in England. Those who were present at the Velodrom stadium did not restrain their emotions and louder than before began to insult the Russians. Insults were heard.
http://www.spb.kp.ru/daily/26541.7/3557997/

As a result, the head of the English association of football fans Kevin Miles called for the expulsion of the Russian team from the European Championship due to the behavior of its fans.
Remember also the medalist at Eurovision-2016 Jamalu with her promoter. pro-Nazi Tatar song "1944" against Soviet Russia - and Russia in general!
This is how the peoples of Europe and the world agree to start a war against Russia in order to “teach the Russians a lesson!”

[Spnsr]

that's just one they do not take into account! the faster it turns out to occupy the territory, the more chances to dig in, for non-requested guests from NATO! the less time the better for this, and only then stripping with all due, first with the erasure of the settlements, and then with the demand for the issuance of the so-called resistance! and then restoration of loyalty, for the construction of factories and enterprises !!!

[assenizator]

I absolutely agree with you. I will only clarify that the role of victims is assigned to the Baltic countries. Evrope, and in particular Germany, does not want to become hostage to the policy of an overseas "partner" for the third time.

[primers]

Germany does not want to, but Germany will have to. Not only did Germany grow after the war with her labor, but also with American money invested in the German economy. Maybe I'm wrong, but it's kind of a hint - Opel has been owned by GM for a long time, just like Vauxhall. Money needs to be worked out. "And what will we give? -And we will give it in milk ..." (c)

[Armored optimist]

Offended!
What is 60 hours?
12 more than enough!

[orestberserker]

Tatyana, somehow it became alarming from your message .
According to military theory, maybe there are constant foundations for concentration - I am not familiar with such a theory (By the way, who developed this theory? What textbook is written?). However, a rather superficial acquaintance with the basics of the hybrid war and, in particular, its information component, tells me that Russia's international response to the next stuffing of a commercial agency will first raise the rating for this agency, and secondly put Russia in the eyes of the international public as a petty power, responding to any information stuffing, instead of demonstrating superiority in deeds.

[97110]

Quote: orestberserker

on the next stuffing of some commercial agency, firstly, it will increase this

Dear Roman. You read the post of Tatiana again. Where is there about a commercial agency? Something trolling stock from your work ...

[Tatyana]

orestberserker
According to military theory, perhaps, there are constant foundations for concentration — I am not familiar with such a theory! (By the way, who developed this theory? Which textbook is written?).

Actually, I did not write about “permanent bases for concentration,” but about the concentration of troops on the border on a PERMANENT basis. These are different things.
Where to read about it, I also will not tell you now. I have known about this for a long time from various sources.
Yes, here, in fact, there is nothing special to understand! And so everything is clear, like God's day! Namely.
The constant presence of troops on the border implies the creation of an appropriate very expensive for the permanent deployment of troops of an increased number of appropriate military infrastructure and logistics, including military training camps for ordinary personnel. This is no longer border guards with their small number of personnel and materiel. And precisely, this is already considered in economic and strategic terms as elements of the country's armed forces mobilization just before the war. All this preparation gives a big strategic gain to the suddenly attacking side on its opponent who does not have such preparation. An unprepared enemy in this case must repel the enemy’s attacks in conditions, as they say, “from the wheels” - in a state of fatigue of people due to the transfer of their units from other places, their waiting for the approach of equipment and ammunition, etc. (in such cases, inevitable inconsistencies arise). In general, it takes time to mobilize the required number of draftees, who will still need to be clothed, shod, provided with food and hot food, delivered to the place, armed, etc. This all takes time and considerable! A CONSTANT concentration of troops saves this time in case of war.
Remember how the Second World War began! Hitler’s troops were concentrated on our border for several days, or even weeks. But Stalin refused to believe the reports of Soviet intelligence about the concentration of German troops on our border. The result - Hitler almost had his Blitzkrieg east come true.
The same functions were for military border fortresses in strategically important places and directions.
The features of mobilization, as well as the mobilization significance of the concentration of the CONSTANT contingent of troops on the border for warfare, are well written in the book:
1. Starikov Nikolay. 1917. The clue to the "Russian" revolution. - St. Petersburg: Peter, 2015. -416 p. - P. 357-405 (Appendix 1. Who organized the First World War?)
2. Starikov Nikolay. Who forced Hitler to attack Stalin. Hitler's fatal mistake. - St. Petersburg: Peter, 2015. -368 p. There is also about the Second World War and it is very interesting about the German attack on Poland and its defeat in 1939.

[nerd.su]

Quote: 97110

Something trolling stock from your work ...

From yours with Tatyana too a smell. For completeness, we now accuse the Balts of aggression as well - then the states will rise up - the guard, the Russians want to attack the Baltic states, they have already voiced the reason for the attack!
No, we quietly, without fuss and screams, go down the hill and ... in general, the whole NATO herd.

[Pasha]

... take over the Baltic countries.
Do not seize, but free!

[Blondy]

But who cares how many hours there are in 60 or 120, and how true the forecast is - to show (and scare) that Russia is a monster.

[lelikas]

We already made such a forecast - divide the distance, from one desired border to another, by the average tank speed + time to stand at traffic lights.
60 minutes, of course, is not enough, it can be seen in the General Staff also lovers of trolling.

[Simpsonian]

There are anti-tank systems, including those based on armored vehicles - before ... is there not enough Finnish war?
Aviation will fly there quickly.
You can’t be so frivolous about the enemy.

[Dam]

Where will it fly if air defense covers the entire Baltic? And in addition to technology, you still need to have eggs in your pants, and with this there are great difficulties

[Simpsonian]

Air defense alone cannot win wars. Somehow I did not notice the difficulties with this, take care of what should be in your head. About "flocks of drones" for its removal, google, about how many minutes almost all air defense systems in Syria ceased to exist in 1982, about the massive launch of anti-air defense missile systems from transport vehicles ...

[Dam]

Do you hear yourself? This is me about the Mega Air Defense of Syria. A flock of drones so far is only in the commercials of NATO. So far, in the battle between aviation and air defense, air defense confidently wins. And wars are won by people, not cars. And while in Europe we are an order of magnitude more efficient.

[Simpsonian]

You only hear yourself - they were in Syria in 1982, but not very large (packs), when this air defense was cheap, angry and confidently did not win.
So then you have to stupidly scratch what is in ... unless of course they survive.

Only now, soldiers pay for such "officers" with their lives, and sometimes countries with entire nations, their existence.

[Dam]

Assad was not crushed by unmanned swarms, but by the betrayal of their own generals and the stratification of society according to religious principles. Although the top of its air defense, an old 125, but with an Arab at the controls. There is a Civil War reinforced by a hybrid from neighbors. But the amers are not shot down there just because we are not yet ready for such an exacerbation. You, the generation nekst, apparently do not understand the simple rule: the one who is ready to die for his country will win. We are ready, they are not. And no matter how banal it sounds, the truth is behind us, and nowhere to retreat further.

[Simpsonian]

In 1982, nobody knocked him down (and you still get the pluses). They knocked out air defense in such a remote-controlled swarm while he listened to sweet peace-making American songs ...

Don't get up! And was it worth warning about the danger with the Baltics, and "risking a career" to get so many minuses and two stars in the morning from the shoulder? D.B.

[Simpsonian]

Over the past 2 days, there have been 5 heady news articles on this site and everything about how the Baltic states are "weak".
Go all about "Blockade Kaliningrad. Unscientific non-fiction" on the main page from June 9, 2016. and read the comments to it!

[nerd.su]

Quote: Simpsonian

They knocked out air defense in such a remote-controlled swarm while he listened to sweet American peacekeeping songs ...

Don't get up! And was it worth warning about the danger with the Baltics, and "risking a career" to get so many minuses and two stars in the morning from the shoulder? D.B.

And all because you didn’t bother to see how this rout of Syria’s air defense ended in 1982. And it ended with the fact that the USSR replaced Syrian air defense with a modern one that meets the threats and with its specialists. And all, all the successes of Israel in the air have melted.

[jPilot]

You "vashpe" about what!? It is said that, without AGGRESSION, neither the Baltic States, nor Poland, nor anyone else, NEED A POINT.

[Simpsonian]

About what - read carefully ...

[AllXVahhaB]

Quote: Simpsonian

About "flocks of drones" for its removal google, about how many minutes almost all air defense systems of Syria ceased to exist in 1982

Well, then the war is not won in Google. And it’s cool to compare modern Russian air defense with the 1982 Syrian model ...

[AllXVahhaB]

Quote: Simpsonian

Finnish war is not enough?

What does Finnish have to do with it? Tea will not be with the Finns ...

[Koshak]

Quote: lelikas

We already made such a forecast - divide the distance, from one desired border to another, by the average tank speed + time to stand at traffic lights.

And to stand neighing on the border over their anti-tank fences from the mesh-netting. How much do you give?

[Dmitriy66]

And also call in the once-Soviet military camps and nostalgic a bit.

[Neputin]

If you go to the red and sometimes on the "opposite", then I think they will be in time in an hour.

[Shpagolom]

.... and visits to museums, snacks in a cafe, why missed?

[SSR]

Quote: Blondy

Who cares how many hours there are in 60 or 120

Well, apparently, the Americans have diminished our capabilities with respect to the Baltic states by 60 times! I agree that this is a lot.

RAND provocateurs-analysts even insult us with their calculations. An hour’s enough to complete such a task, ”

[GSH-18]

In the Russian General Staff, the calculations of American analysts who predicted the seizure of the Baltic States in 60 hours were considered to be unjustifiably inflated.

Our General Staff has a good sense of humor We are waiting for the cries that the damned Russians invented another element of the hybrid war

[Wiruz]

I recall an old joke from the PCF, they say:

... the Georgian television channel Imedi, interrupting the main broadcast, urgently reported that President Saakashvilli was killed by fighters of a Russian sabotage group, and a large convoy of tanks and armored vehicles was sent to Tbilisi from South Ossetia ...
Spectators are in a panic! They don’t know what to rejoice and what not to ...

[cniza]

Quote: vanavate

Already, it seems, they laughed about this crap, enough is enough, especially since this turbidity every two to three months is voiced with a slight shift in numbers

So it’s a shame to specialists, when such miscalculations.

[poquello]

Quote: Wiruz

I recall an old joke from the PCF, they say:

... the Georgian television channel Imedi, interrupting the main broadcast, urgently reported that President Saakashvilli was killed by fighters of a Russian sabotage group, and a large convoy of tanks and armored vehicles was sent to Tbilisi from South Ossetia ...
Spectators are in a panic! They don’t know what to rejoice and what not to ...

))))
the bourgeoisie are silent about the fact that the Baltic states for modern warfare cannot be a bridgehead that can be restrained, otherwise you will have to agree with the offensive goal of the accumulation of troops there

[Igor V]

It is not voiced, but is forced from the other side, and ours have to answer. This is the work of a solid, terribly self-respecting organization, and you call it "crap". Don't respect our partners.

[Tusv]

Fomriula Butter has not yet been found. Despite the authority of LHFTI

[Wiruz]

Not seriously, I sometimes get the feeling that the Balts really terribly want to go back to Russia, to the USSR, but they are afraid to openly declare this. Therefore, they always ring the Russian threat, as if hinting, in the expectation that they will be occupied

Bearded joke:

The end of the eighties of the last century, the summit of the Warsaw Treaty countries discusses the solution of the difficult economic situation in the countries of the socialist camp. The representative of Poland takes the floor:
“I know how we can solve this problem!” It is necessary to declare war on NATO! We will declare war on them, they will defeat us, occupy us and will support us. We will live at their expense!
Everyone clapped, they say, "You are right!", "Excellent solution", etc. etc.
The representative of the USSR takes the floor:
- The idea, of course, is a good one. But here... What if we win ??? ...

[Grandson of Veteran]

The NATO member incorrectly formulated - 60 hours will be needed for the Baltic states to realize the fact that the troops of the Russian Federation passed them in the direction of Europe!

[Finches]

This is all about escalating hysteria with a clear goal - to drive into everyone’s head that Russia will necessarily attack first with aggressive goals, but that’s nothing new either - Goebbels’s office did the same ... Pentagon kids just need to justify your invasion!

[Ivan Ivanov]

In the west, the guys are cunning and thoughtful, which means they knock out money, rock the population. it is at least.

[Lawrence]

The Baltic states really want Russia to build factories and factories, and they will plunder them again with EU money. Indeed, from the calculation of losses only waste. Transit is covered up and I WANT to live well.

[Denis Obukhov]

The famous writer V. Pikul has a novel "In the Backyard of the Russian Empire", so why does Russia need these backyards ?! And so in the tsarist and Soviet times they wasted a lot of money on them! And now this is a euro dump with a destroyed industry and farm farm, and what should we restore everything again ?! Better, in case of aggression from NATO, just wipe it off the face of the earth along with europium, it will become cleaner on earth, though I'm sorry for the French, they will die for someone else's crap!

[97110]

Quote: Denis Obukhov

the truth is sorry for the French

I don’t understand - why are you sorry for these?

[Skif83]

I agree, to multiply horror stories to nobody.
BUT!
There are two (or maybe more) alarming points:
1. NATO troops, the less grouped along our borders.
2. If the citation "was told to the publication in the General Staff of the RF Armed Forces" even to a small extent corresponds to reality, it is bad. The bad news is that it resembles bravura slogans before the Finnish company, before the Second World War.
You can say anything you want, but you need to prepare BASICLY!

[Eugen]

It’s just that one needs money, and another reason and even more money. And then who exactly will be able to remember how the whole of the Baltic states and the rest of eastern Europe were crammed with NATO military. It was help, or so they came. I would like that Nato stepped on the Russian rake, so that the allies then called them acupants and aggressors, instead of thanks. And we remember that besides ourselves we are not needed by anyone unharmed and prosperous.

[0895055116]

Is it worth it to spend energy and money on the Baltic states? All three Baltic republics have a tendency of negative population growth (in simple terms, their population is declining, dying, no work, no prospects ...). It will take 20-25 years and there will not be a local ethnic group at all. - Come and populate!

[Bulrumeb]

so as to reconstruct, in Soviet times, the factories to the Baltic states that they destroyed and closed upon joining the European Union and NATO? Well, and assuming only theoretically that this could be, these RAND provocateurs-analysts even insult us with their calculations. An hour’s enough to complete such a task, ”

in the General Staff, people sit with humor, nobly troll

[lukke]

or in "Komsomolskaya Pravda" journalists have a good fantasy)))

in which, by the way, a lot of professional intelligence officers work on a commercial basis, ”Komsomolskaya Pravda clarifies.

Here I have two questions at once:
1. Are there "non-professional" scouts?
2. If a scout "on a commercial basis" works elsewhere (please do not confuse under "cover"), then he is usually called a traitor, traitor, defector, etc.)
in general, write escho, "Komsomolskaya Pravda"!)
And then there is one good Russian saying "don't say hop until you jump over." I very much doubt that the officers of the General Staff will discuss any issues with the journalist, but if only not in frankly humorous dialogues to find ...

[Vladimirets]

Quote: lukke

If a scout "on a commercial basis" works elsewhere (please do not confuse under "cover"), then he is usually called a traitor, a traitor, a defector

The case that a scout, for example, in retirement moonlighting, is not considered?

Quote: lukke

And there are "non-professional" scouts?

I doubt that there is a specialty in intelligence services - a scout. In the troops, yes, but in the CIA or the NSA?

[lukke]

Did you read my quote well? "professional intelligence officer" - as I understand it, the person who earns a living by profession (like a sport - there is an amateur, but there is ...). Or do you think it meant the characteristic of the type experienced-inexperienced?))
If a former intelligence officer works in a commercial analytical center, but at the same time is engaged in his main craft, then he is an enemy of his own state, because only state bodies have "licenses" for objectified. activities, everything else from the crafty or not knowing the laws (or lack of control by the state). And if the state is all profitable and it flows to the development of such centers, then believe there are no "former".
About the specialty "intelligence officer" is this what you need at all?

[Vladimirets]

Quote: lukke

Or do you think it meant a characteristic type experienced-inexperienced?))

I think in the context of the article, yes.

Quote: lukke

About the specialty "intelligence officer" is this what you need at all?

To your own post:

Quote: lukke

are there "non-professional" scouts?

Professional, i.e. having a profession, specialty.

[Weyland]

Quote: lukke

If a scout "on a commercial basis" works somewhere else (please do not confuse under "cover"), then he is usually called a traitor, a traitor, a defector, etc.

And what if, say, an Englishman is hired in Burundi to spy against Rwanda? These kinds of countries often employ spies in the same way as regular "wild geese"!
And one more thing: Have you heard the term "international spy"? Collects any secret information concerning any state and sells it for good money to anyone who wants it. Earlier, many of them, in fact, "permanently lived" in the famous "Orient Express".

[Weyland]

Quote: lukke

If a scout "on a commercial basis" works somewhere else (please do not confuse under "cover"), then he is usually called a traitor, a traitor, a defector, etc.

And what if, say, an Englishman is hired in Burundi to spy against Rwanda? These kinds of countries often employ spies in the same way as regular "wild geese"!
And one more thing: Have you heard the term "international spy"? Collects any secret information concerning any state and sells it for good money to anyone who wants it. Earlier, many of them, in fact, "permanently lived" in the famous "Orient Express".

[sir_obs]

Soon the Baltic states are so intimidated by their constituents that they will have to build factories for the mass production of diapers and sedatives for the population.

[Donlomakin]

“We are working on the situation, we will deploy troops and equipment in such a way as to prevent aggression from Russia”

And at the same time, you can begin to build a protective wall with anti-tank ditches, as Ukraine does. As the saying goes, whatever the child would play ...

[poquello]

Quote: Donlomakin

“We are working on the situation, we will deploy troops and equipment in such a way as to prevent aggression from Russia”

And at the same time, you can begin to build a protective wall with anti-tank ditches, as Ukraine does. As the saying goes, whatever the child would play ...

voo, what the Baltic states need to create difficulties in advancement - bunkers every five meters, a developed network of underground passages, bunkers every five hundred, it’s time for them to invite Albanian comrades to share their experience

[Dmitry Potapov]

Yes, yes, for 61.5,1.5 hours to go back because we will slip through the attack

[shinobi]

I’m wondering if NATO will come to us, or is it just a PR like that? The situation is very similar to 38-40 years. Germany then acted with small countries before throwing to the east. If you look on the map, the directions of strikes are clearly drawn. The concentration of forces is still insufficient , but this is not required at the moment, they are preparing security bases. So there really is no reason for fun. And they didn’t lie to do something preemptive.

[samarin1969]

61 hours .........

[NDR-791]

“We are working on the situation, we will deploy troops and equipment in such a way as to prevent aggression from Russia”
And we again deceive and will not come to the tribaltia. Let the cheeks cheat, we will lose. Well, if we come, then forever unexpectedly - for example, with the help of a metro building and directly to the headquarters JOKE. And no kidding, we need them to go to them, to the top of the Poplar for each, and after a week you can settle in ... They all do not understand this, "give us the last missing battalion!", Like psheki, but about that that they are just a battlefield and that the modern battlefield is a potential desert, they do not think. I'm talking about politicians who shit from the bell tower on their people, who are under distribution and will fall mainly in MILLIONS !!!

[ALEA IACTA EST]

1 hour - fighting, 59 hours - a party on the occasion of the victory.

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: ALEA IACTA EST

59 hours - victory party

For 59 hours we will be catching their soldiers in the woods. Well, the President will need to.

[opus]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

59 hours we will catch their staged soldiers in the woods

It is necessary to add more "tsat" hours to catch them from the water

(nature must be protected from shit)

force the water barriers, as it turned out they do not know how.
They even drown during exercises, but during the retreat?
Dugava then there will be more of this American pond!

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: opus

It is necessary to add more "tsat" hours to catch them from the water

These are secret submarines of the 187th fleet of the cosmo-galactic forces of Latvia.

[opus]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

These are secret submarines of the 187 fleet of the cosmo-galactic forces of Latvia.

not .
This (in the first photo) American so either American military vehicles and hb so wash, or work out secretive underwater movement of automatic telephone exchanges on the rivers of Russia mother



And the video is the marines (elite). From the moment of entry, I had a feeling, well, something will be 100%.
Not wrong.
Who then saved them interestingly? MOE?
And there are many rivers in the Baltic Europe.
Wisla, Oder, Rhine.
Ours have already been there
============================================
Yet again:

What is wrong with them, even with tolerance is wrong.

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: opus

Who then saved them interestingly? MOE?

Well, they slept well, I don’t understand why they drowned the trucks

[opus]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

why did they drown trucks

One of the American generals bitterly admitted that in Afghanistan today there is an unprecedented in terms of time and the largest in scale in the history of mankind senseless destruction of heavy military equipment. / The Pentagon decided to leave in Afghanistan machinery and equipment for 7 billions of dollars, but in the form of scrap metal. /

Afghanistan is a small country (by area), the burial grounds are crowded.
In the Kandahar workshop alone, eleven million pounds of scrap are “produced” per month, sold to local Afghan construction firms at a price of a few cents per pound. Afghans call this scrap "gold dust."

Metal and scrap prices have been falling for the 3 year.

Now they are disposing of themselves.
/ well, if on the 700 000 000 $ every year the Pentagon is unfastened, 3MB is not present, is there any need to maintain production?

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: opus

/ The Pentagon decided to leave in Afghanistan machinery and equipment for $ 7 billion, but in the form of scrap metal. /

The Pentagon will ask for money for new equipment, the owners of the defense industry will receive new orders from the Pentagon. And then the Pentagon received a bribe from the defense. Money and nothing personal.

[opus]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

.Money and nothing personal.

Well, yes.

"The world of capital / money"

[Lieutenant colonel]

And what kind of technique is this? Snorkels are not visible, what did the engine "eat" except gasoline and how?
Our boobies also sometimes stoke equipment, but so that

[NDR-791]

Stock of buoyancy - a pack of diapers. Debbills, however, over the water cannon with the flap raised, an open hatch ... and what ... the resort didn’t need to read the rules!

[opus]

Quote: NDR-791

arrived regulations do not need to read!

Overcoming the water barrier is one of the most difficult activities in the training system for driver mechanics. Therefore, only after passing the test at the waterway can you consider yourself a real professional. In order for everything to go smoothly, you need to know and be able to do a lot. TOEach crew prepares their car on their own. The standard is excellent - four minutes. During this time, all hatches must be tightened tightly, to cover the cracks and joints with something viscous and pungent. Two hundred meters in a straight line, a narrow target indicated by buoys, a turn on the shore and back. Speed ​​on water - 5-6 km / h, About two dozen fighters manage to work out driving in a day.


Tomorrow I will send to the Pentagon:

Let the materiel be taught, otherwise they will pollute the whole nature of North America.
But she (territory) to whom the thread is still useful!

[bamsik]

Daugava is really bigger, but it doesn’t seem in the picture

[Avz]

Well, it’s really insulting, they strive to run into rudeness. 60 minutes is enough to catch a warrior and kick him under the ass. Just like in a joke about a woman who screams from the balcony that she is being raped or about the elusive John.

[Pitot]

Yes, what for Russia the Baltic states? What is delicious there? Some buggers and Russophobes or buggers, Russophobes ....

[Antiprogressor]

Major Yakub taught us tactics. He has the Order of the Red Star for the capture of the Prague airfield. I was on my way to a "civilian" plane to Munich, suddenly an "engine failure" emergency landing. He sat down, stood across the lane, the paratroopers (the Kirovograd special forces?) Ran out, seized the RP car or the escort vehicle ("follow me" which), on it at the KDP. And there they had already cleared everything for the reception of the Antei with equipment and soldiers. Those flew after.
And when did the war with China almost begin? I could not imagine how many simultaneously in our air there can be BT aircraft. At 3900 an-12 with fighters, times low. Higher, to 6900 An22, Even higher il76. And so after 20 km the whole regiment after each other, then after half an hour another regiment stretches. For civilians, three echelons in each direction left and cranes, fly as you want. And so two days, on three routes to the east. The Chinese saw this urgently stopped the war with Vietnam.
And then the state is microbes. Their quadrocopters can only capture in 20 hours. Or circus bears on motorcycles. They say they have a bear disease from the bears.

[aleks700]

1 hour Not. Distances will not give. At least a day, but still have to eat and sleep.

[Berkut24]

Why do you think the guys will go on foot?

[aleks700]

Why do you think the guys will go on foot?

Well, it’s unlikely that the entire Baltic region will slip through in an hour. how much from Narva to Klaipeda? What should I go to? It is unlikely that they will go from Kaliningrad, there Poland is the target. The landing is unlikely. If they accidentally bring down a transporter, it will be very unpleasant. Day.

[AFG-X]

... predicted the seizure of the Baltic in 60 hours

Yeah, and this is with interruptions to eat and sleep.

[Roma999]

It is very pleasant to hear how the General Staff gives a comment correctly, competently and clearly. Thank you For the Fatherland joyfully

[Hammer]

The Russian General Staff considered unreasonably inflated calculations of American analysts who predicted the seizure of the Baltic in 60 hours

then underestimated

[Abbra]

It is necessary to involve US military analysts in a constant and tireless, thoughtful and lazy reading of the discussions in the HE. Learn a lot of useful things. Deb ... Bl ...

[Igor V]

A year ago, a friend told me. They have a Lithuanian at work, they are waiting for Russian citizenship, but for now they need to periodically cross the border. Once again I went to my homeland, met with friends. And they are seriously discussing the president’s words that Lithuania needs to hold out 3 days before the arrival of NATO. Our Lithuanian says, what kind of three days are these, three hours is enough. They answer him that you how much drove here by car. So I drove along the road, but the tank doesn’t need a road! Then friends were sad. So propaganda does its job.

[Belarus]

It turns out that this is RAND - the US strategic research center engaged in the study of US national security problems

A typical office for softly extorting money from the budgets of NATO countries for weapons and other things. And as we all know from NATO, the standard for weapons is the standards of the United States army. So the beneficiary is simply obvious.

[cergey51046]

Yes, they are stuffing their price.

[kiparis]

No, colleagues. A talker is a godsend for a spy! It is said for 60, then for 60!

[cap]

"Well, if we admit only theoretically that this could be, then these provocateurs-analysts from RAND even insult us with their calculations. An hour will be enough to complete such a task,"
told the publication in the General Staff of the RF Armed Forces. "

Set off to our General Staff
Well, what did you eat?

[Simpsonian]

Something clearly ate the wrong one ...

[Riv]

Cheto, our General Staff also overestimated the figure. Everything is simpler. In the morning, the GDP, speaking on television, in passing announces that all the Baltic republics from that moment are considered occupied. After this, five minutes of panic ensue, the Americans realize that they are surrounded, abandon the Abrams, run to the sea and go swimming at hand. Local armies march in formation towards the eastern border and surrender to Russian cops. Politicians scratch in London, they organize governments in exile.
For all ten minutes. What was the first of April, the Baltic states will understand only after a month.

[avg-mgn]

It seems to be serious men, but they are engaged in such nonsense. Why should we climb into the Baltic states?
During the Soviet era, I visited Riga and Shoulai a couple of times, they lived very well, I will say without guile. In 2003 I had to visit Shoulai again, heaven and earth. From everywhere, hatred shows through in relation to the "occupants" (who fed them to their own detriment), the once powerful radio-electronic industry fell, placed an order with difficulty (Russian specialists were dispersed, but they themselves do not know how to work and do not want to). The country is full of rest.
So I mean, do we have nowhere to relax today? Or miss sprats? By the way, I cook them in a small sprat smoker for two times with a dressing with olive oil and my friends praise them. (the main thing is not to overdo it).
So why the hell to us this Baltic with its pidrasnoy, even on 60 hours?

[clidon]

"They seem to be serious men, but they are engaged in such nonsense. Why should we climb into the Baltics? For what such a strategic goal? For sprats, or what?"
I can name half a dozen reasons right away. How long have they laughed at Ukraine’s fears and persuaded those who in Kiev are afraid of the Russian threat.

[Simpsonian]

are you from there chtoli not afraid to write this?

[morprepud]

Russia is capable of defeating NATO troops and capturing the Baltic countries in less than 60, the Pentagon deputy head said

- lies, we first gave time to realize and pray!

[iouris]

Did the General Staff indirectly confirm that there is a plan to seize the Soviet Baltic?

[Anchonsha]

Well, well, a black baboon kondrashka might be enough from such an answer. Well, to hell do we grab something or someone? Yes, yourself, then the creatures crawl and surrender, if you stay alive

[da Vinci]

So love to scare a hedgehog naked z * house! Who in the role of a hedgehog and who in the role of **** can be chosen!

[Every]

Quote: Tatiana

I don’t see anything “funny” in such conversations!
For historical practice shows that when such statements begin to be heard in the country, then, as a rule, in this case there is a latent concentration - on a CONSTANT (!) Basis - of a large number of troops and military equipment on the border of this aggressor state with a neighboring state - the victim.
And the CONSTANT foundation, according to military theory, is nothing but the NECESSARY mobilization component of the country's readiness for a real war.
This gives Russia a real reason in the hybrid war of the United States and the "collective West" against the Russian Federation. ACCUSING the Baltic countries as aggressor countries in a future war.
And Russia must internationally voice such an accusation! And do not be silent!

I agree to all 100%. After all, it is quite possible to blame the West and the United States for preparing for war.

[new 2016]

I don’t know whether we need the Baltic States from a military point of view or not, I probably need a connection with Kaliningrad, etc., it seems to me that the NATO battalions are there to be stationed in order to prevent our attack on Kaliningrad if something happens, I want to ask who thinks what about our fans after the match with England, for example, it seems to me that since a global war is impossible, at least for now, then we will fight all as in old times, with cold and impact-crushing weapons in stadiums, in our yards in markets, etc., I think in the Urals they’re not blundering if that, I watched the news yesterday, our guys say, in response to the provocations of the English fans, they rushed into their sector, and they pinched ours so that they got a natural escape, panic, now the RFU will be fined, so it's okay for me, it's better a fine than 400 million to any foreign coaches, who thinks what, please answer, people’s opinions on this matter are interesting, and I don’t know where to ask

[Igor V]

I love football because it is football, not politics. There were times when we went to the stadium, got sick, and poured what was, but no one broke each other's face. I have a strong opinion that those "fans" who are engaged in all kinds of fights have nothing to do with the fans. Are you interested in my opinion?

[bashkir]

I liked the new forecast:
WE WILL TAKE AN HOUR!
Let in the WEST now rebuild their military doctrine)

[Vadim237]

And you don’t need to capture anything, in 20 - 30 years there will be no population left in the Baltic countries.

[Sedoy_greek]

Most importantly, the Balts are excellent ideological and disciplined fighters !!! And in the case of Russian aggression, as if on a command, everyone would abandon toileting toilets and revenge on the pavement in England and Germany, and in a single impulse they would go to fight with the Russians for their beloved Estonian hearts Riga, Vilnius and Tallinn (and even the prostitutes from Finland and Norway would sail) !!!! !

[lance]

They probably relate Ukraine to the Baltic states. In general, honestly, I think that 32 hours for all this nonsense is enough!

[bad]

then these provocateurs-analysts from RAND even insult us with their calculations. An hour’s will be enough to complete such a task, ”the Russian Armed Forces General Staff told the publication.

..clear

[RedBaron]

In the Russian General Staff, too much time is being devoted to crocodile tears in the style we want a few billion more.

[Vladimir 1964]

“It seems to be serious men, but they are engaged in such nonsense. Why should we climb into the Baltic states? What is such a strategic goal? For sprats, or what? Or in order to re-build, in Soviet times, factories for the Baltic states, which they destroyed and closed upon joining the European Union and NATO? Well, and assuming only theoretically that this could be, these RAND provocateurs-analysts even offend us with their calculations. An hour’s will be enough to complete such a task, ”the Russian Armed Forces General Staff told the publication.

I really liked the opinion of the General Staff, I pay tribute to the author of this phrase.

[podgornovea]

Quote: Mahmut

Why should we climb into the Baltic states?

If NATO trample on Kaliningrad, then you have to climb. And not just to climb, but to demolish all these pseudo-state piles.

What kind of NATO will trample on Kaliningrad?
Which countries will risk the first to attack?
Latvia-Estonia-Poland? Germany? France? Italy? USA?
If it comes down to it, everyone has "very urgent, urgent matters, you start here for now and we will catch up later."
If thugs Ukraine or Turkey will be allowed - then no matter how it is necessary to take the Baltic states.
And with those who were told to finish in the first place, so that everyone would lose the desire to "pull up later."

[Old warrior]

Yes, what kind of "serious men" -SUSH are already seriously ill with megalomania for a long time.

[bald]

Yes, let them do whatever they want there. These are their costs. As we say, "One sells, the other buys." We have whole sea millions of excellent beaches with the USA. And they are well aware of this.

[Zefr]

My question is - why the heck were new ports being built bypassing the Baltic states, when could they just be captured? And if you capture them now, it’s like they’ll have double expenses - they’ve already spent on the ports, and here you have to put sprats somewhere, but we already have Kaliningrad ...

[dmitrymb]

Baltic "girl" fills the price

[atamankko]

We do not need either passive or active balts,
calm down and slowly go to your future
withering and death to the sound of the pipe of your near power.

[Vadim237]

They decided to forget their story, but the time will come and history will forget them.

[tolmachiev51]

Such stuffing has a "bad smell" !!! And who gave the author the right to refer to some representative of the General Staff? This blabbermouthology binds the "hands" of the true aggressors in the person of the United States and their sixes. Would ask a question, why do we need the Baltic states ??? - countries that completely sit on the neck of the EU.

[dchegrinec]

Indeed, the answer of the General Staff is more than accurate. It is already clear that there are no goals there, except for the elimination of radar or NATO bases. Russia has become different and its goals have changed. They have become wider and more global. The Baltics is a passed stage.

[erik cartman]

Quote: vanavate

Already, it seems, they laughed about this crap, enough is enough, especially since this turbidity every two to three months is voiced with a slight shift in numbers

The smaller the bug, the smelly. The braked Balts do not have enough attention, and even more money. Here they are trying to attract attention by any means. Let China declare war (there is no hard sign in the layout, so I apologize), we laugh again.

[Ros 56]

Well, it’s incomprehensible that all these former ones simply earn their pension augmentation, so that not only bread and butter, but also whiskey and caviar are enough. But the fact that they do not intend to fight with rare exceptions is an axiom.

[Tolik_74]

It looks like the Americans are even dumber than Zadornov made them out to be, and the guys from the Pentagon are the height of stupidity

[Evil 55]

The point is that when money begins to rule the mind, the logic of words, deeds and actions suffers first.

[TsUS-Air Force]

full credit for the article!!!

[ver_]

Quote: Koshak

Quote: lelikas

We already made such a forecast - divide the distance, from one desired border to another, by the average tank speed + time to stand at traffic lights.

And to stand neighing on the border over their anti-tank fences from the mesh-netting. How much do you give?

In the event of a peak situation, these NATO bases in Europe are simply stopped by nuclear tactical weapons and... according to Chekhov... - something on the table - and... "it went on its own"..

[TsUS-Air Force]

At first there was a thought - in Ossetia the plush one needed a day to make a decision. and then I realized that our Kaliningrad is at stake here. and Putin will definitely not allow our country to be mocked for XNUMX hours!

[Yvoron]

When placing NATO infrastructure on its territory, one must understand that Russia will have to defend itself. And in the event of a global conflict, the Baltic states will receive a couple of megatons. Do they need it? They are afraid of something wrong.

[rus-b4]

I like the information policy of the army and the Ministry of Foreign Affairs lately, they have finally learned to laugh at themselves and troll their partners

[pamero]

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[pamero]

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[Titovich]

There was a mistake, 60 minutes and not hours.

[Brigadier]

“An hour is enough to complete such a task.”

Well done men from our General Staff. They answered clearly and simply, like a soldier...

[gg.na]

Well, if we assume only theoretically that this could happen, then these provocateur-analysts from RAND even insult us with their calculations. An hour is enough to complete such a task,” the General Staff of the Russian Armed Forces told the publication.

Yes-ah-ah-ah, like two fingers on the asphalt !!!

[GOGY]

And Stalin refused to believe the reports of Soviet intelligence officers about the concentration of German troops near our border. The result was that Hitler’s “Blitzkrieg” to the East almost came true.

You should also read Svanidze and Mlechin how Stalin “hid and didn’t show up in the Kremlin for a week.” The command of the Western Special Military District and Army General Pavlov personally are to blame for the tragedy of June 41. Back on June 14, the General Staff of the Red Army ordered, and on June 18 repeated the order to bring the first echelons of troops and the fleet into combat readiness, all other districts and the fleet carried out the order and repulsed the first attack of the Nazis, except for the district of the traitor Pavlov, where the troops were not withdrawn to summer camps, military personnel without ammunition, and airfields not camouflaged and left without air cover, and aircraft with weapons and ammunition removed! That's why Kobets shot himself! The first ram was at 4.15 am! There were no weapons on the plane by order of the two commanders... Read Prudnikova, Starikov is a muddy cedar - both ours and yours...

[wanderer_032]

“We are working on the situation, we will deploy troops and equipment so as to prevent aggression from Russia,” he said.

Or if translated into human:

We will deploy troops and equipment to make it more convenient for us to attack.

[d.gksueyjd]

And why the hell do we need them, these Balts - we fed them for more than 50 years, spent people's money on the development of industry! Now these “independent” countries are “afraid” of being conquered by the Russian Federation? A nightmare, the former republics of the USSR, now hostile and “sovereign”, declare war on Russia and surrender the next day!!!