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FSB Major General Alexander Mikhailov: “As long as the FSB prevents terrorist acts at the design stage, it doesn’t particularly interest anyone.”

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FSB Major General Alexander Mikhailov: “As long as the FSB prevents terrorist acts at the design stage, it doesn’t particularly interest anyone.”


Alexander Mikhailov is a unique officer who began his work in the security forces as early as the 70s, under Andropov. He served in the KGB under Brezhnev, Gorbachev and Yeltsin, held senior positions, including in the Fifth Directorate of the KGB of the USSR (political counterintelligence); in 1989, he was appointed head of the first press service in the USSR in state security bodies. He retired in the year 2008 with the rank of Major General of the FSB, Lieutenant General of the Ministry of Internal Affairs. SECURITY.ru talks with Alexander Georgievich about the most topical issues of the work of Russian special services.


The question is to you as a person who has worked in security for many years at the highest level. In your opinion, what threat is the most real today for the security of our country?



I believe that this is the growth of some extremist sentiment in the country. Unfortunately, recently we have become accustomed to a rather comfortable existence, but we still cannot get used to the crisis. We must understand that it is impossible to get used to this, but the crisis is real, one cannot get away from it. Nevertheless, a significant proportion of people who are, so to speak, on the verge of poverty - and there are a lot of them - are an explosive mass.


In Russia, of course, a very tolerant attitude to adversity and burdens, but it is impossible to twist nuts in all directions in all directions. Let's estimate: for the last time we have not seen a single laxing decision of the authorities, everything is only aimed at tightening the belts. But they can be tightened only by those who have them, and not by those who do not converge on their stomachs - these are the representatives of top management and elites to tighten their belts and are not going to.


Therefore, people who see and condemn all this, being themselves in poverty, compared to the elite, are a very nutritious environment for all sorts of extremist emissaries who can take advantage of the plight of people. This is the main problem today that should worry us.


You served in the fifth department of the KGB of the USSR (political counterintelligence). And what, in your opinion, are there political threats inside the country today? Someone, for example, is outraged by the existence of NPOs with foreign money, and someone condemns out loud the activities of the liberal wing ...



Well, let's say this: the liberal political wing is not even a wing, but rather some kind of feather. Can the representatives of the liberals be perceived as a potential threat in terms of the impact on the electorate? Almost nothing. The electorate always needs the image of the enemy, and the point is that it is the liberals who today themselves get into it very well. They are few, but noisy, positioning themselves as unknown. But still it is small, but a bulldozer, for which the rest can follow. There is a little danger in this.


Remember the events on Bolotnaya Square - it seemed to everyone from the outside that a huge crowd of like-minded people went out there, but in fact it was one and a half cripples to all those who had drunk teeth.


But after all other people followed them, among whom there were many worthy and decent citizens. Similarly, the situation was the same during the events in 91 and 93. But unfortunately, it is not decent people who are doing this, but a bunch of bastards. And behind their backs there is another 80% of hooligans who are ready to do anything, because there are a lot of them, and because all this will be unproven.


As for the funding of NGOs by the West and all kinds of characters: it is necessary to clearly understand that there they have more pragmatists than here. And now they are clearly beginning to count their money. Why powerfully invest in some Navalny or Kasyanov? You can leave the remnants of them from your table, but no more than. Today, even the West has realized that these characters are not key figures for solving political problems in Russia.


You served in both the KGB and the FSB. And as far as I understood, one of the main tasks of the KGB was to "measure" the public mood and write analytical notes to the Kremlin every day. And how much has the work of the special services changed since then, and what are the priority tasks of the FSB today?



Yes, I think, and now the same thing. Of course, official sociological services are an obvious tool for measuring public sentiment. But, as they say in intelligence, you can not rely on one source. Therefore, the security services make their own "measurements", without this it is impossible. Another thing is that no sociological organization can take “measurements” among the protest masses, while special agencies can and do.


And here the question arises: if such a sentiment analysis is done, then why do we not see the reaction of the authorities? Consider Moscow: what upsets residents in the first place? Call it - neglect of the cultural layer of Moscow. Infinite construction, point buildings, piling up of glass structures in the center, constant spending on any replacement curbs that are still quite suitable, paid parking, tow trucks ... By the way, the actions of the latter can be classified as theft of personal property committed by a group of persons by prior agreement . The man goes out and does not understand - whether his car was stolen or evacuated. These are all pockets of social tension.


But the most important thing is not even that. The most important thing today for any person, and the most dangerous for society, is a sense of injustice and the impossibility of achieving the truth. When people turn to law enforcement, law enforcement agencies do not solve the problem of the applicants, but the problem of those whom they complain about. And look what is happening even at the level of the president - he says in his message what to do, and his surroundings and performers react very sluggishly. Well, if they do not perform, then it is necessary to change the command?


The FSB has repeatedly declared that their specialists have a vital connection with society. But for several years under the FSB, the Advisory Board existed first - from 1997 to 2004 a year, and then the Public Council, created in 2007. In your opinion, was this format useful? What are his successes?



I think that there is little sense in such things. To advise someone, you must at least know the subject for which you are consulting. And if we talk about the FSB, then this is the most closed system, and there are very few specialists on it. They don’t attract old personnel, and new people who know about the FSB only from detectives don’t understand anything at all. There is the Security Council of the Russian Federation, under which a variety of issues are raised and discussed - from economic problems to the health care system. This is quite enough.


Alexander Georgievich, how does political tension reflect in the interaction of our and foreign special services? It is known that Russia unilaterally withdrew from the agreement on cooperation with the US special services.



And rightly, that came out. I’m working with them, if they even detain our citizens, even without notifying the Russian side, where it is not clear for what reasons? What then should this interaction be? In general, I do not really believe in the cooperation of the special services. As one of the founders of the CIA, intelligence officer Allen Dulles, said there are intelligence services from friendly countries, but there are no friendly intelligence services.


Each country, even interacting with its partners, still lobbies its national interests. Of course, there are common points for cooperation, but we see that the Americans themselves do not really want to go for it. Remember how many times they were asked to coordinate in Syria with our HQs?


Well, yes, you can remember and unilaterally they frozen format "Russia - NATO" ...



Yes, in general, NATO is the organ of the Cold War, which nowadays no one needs by and large.


Well, how? They are marching in Lithuania right now as part of a huge military column, they have begun some of the largest military exercises in recent years in Poland ...



Here we must remember such a term as "target designation". During any "special period" all the points dangerous for us on the geographic map are within the range of our missiles. That is, there was some kind of village there that did not pose any threat or interest to Russia, but as soon as the American base appeared there, this village was under the likely blow of our forces in a critical situation. Question: does conditional Lithuania need this?


You know that, such a kind of handicap - they invented a new bulletproof vest, which means you need to create a bullet that pierces it.


Here you need to get out of this handicap, because basically everything is created artificially to advance the defense budget, for example. And so, who needs this Lithuania? They do not want to become adults, well, let them play, just let them remember that if something happens, they will be hit on them, not because it is Lithuania, but because there is an American base there.


And the last question is rather about ideology and meanings: it has been the custom in our country since Soviet times that people treated the KGB as a punitive body. How has the image of the special services changed in the minds of citizens today? And do you think they now trust the FSB as defenders?



You know, any structure has some functionality. Here is the traffic light, while it lights up, no one pays any attention to it, but as soon as it stops working, as soon as there is congestion and discontent among people. Currently, interest in the FSB is lost. Why? And because we had a wave of hysteria about punitive organs. Secondly, it has become obvious to everyone in recent years that the security service fulfills its direct duties.


While the FSB prevents acts of terrorism at the design stage, it does not particularly interest anyone.


If suddenly something happens, then we get to the full. In my opinion, today the security services are in a very comfortable environment, because they don’t have to be distracted from their duties to some unnecessary emotions. And this is an indicator of the degree of public confidence in the bodies of protection. On the other hand, if the counterintelligence regime is properly built in the country, then no terrorists will come here because they understand that they will be revealed immediately; and, so to speak, homegrown gangsters realize that their crimes will be prevented at the design stage.


Therefore, I see a lot of positive things in the work of the special services, which really provide peace in our country in the literal sense of the word.

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  1. Andrey Yuryevich
    Andrey Yuryevich 12 June 2016 06: 17
    +11
    Major General of the FSB Alexander Mikhailov: “As long as the FSB prevents terrorist attacks at the design stage, it does not particularly interest anyone”
    ... and the Service should not "shine" anywhere, the specifics of work ... soldier
    1. siberalt
      siberalt 12 June 2016 07: 09
      +1
      It would be nice when the state was not visible either. Except for important political events. And so, in our country the entire Duma from morning till night on television is "working with voters." Not like in that movie - "Come to the Kolyma! - No, you'd better come to us" laughing
    2. Blondy
      Blondy 12 June 2016 08: 03
      +2
      FSB Major General Alexander Mikhailov: “As long as the FSB prevents terrorist acts at the design stage, it doesn’t particularly interest anyone.”

      Eh, everyone would have worked like that, had the same sense of self-worth in society and had the same attitude to PR.
      1. dauria
        dauria 12 June 2016 08: 50
        +2
        Eh, everyone would have worked like that, had the same sense of self-worth in society and had the same attitude to PR.


        Energy ... Vodokanal ... Who remembers why the light is on in the apartment and the toilet is working? smile And still, electricians do not sell the country as the KGB in '91 .... Kryuchkov may be a brave man, but what kind of work is this crooked ...
    3. 33 Watcher
      33 Watcher 12 June 2016 08: 33
      +9
      Quote: Andrew Y.
      Major General of the FSB Alexander Mikhailov: “As long as the FSB prevents terrorist attacks at the design stage, it does not particularly interest anyone”
      ... and the Service should not "shine" anywhere, the specifics of work ... soldier

      This is the highest assessment of their work, when nothing happens, as if not, neither the terrorist nor the FSB. This is aerobatics!
      So the pros are working, and we are grateful to them for this, we are all interested, and we all understand. And we remember about everyone.
  2. engineering
    engineering 12 June 2016 06: 35
    +4
    ... In my opinion, today the security services are very comfortable, because they do not have to be distracted from direct duties by some unnecessary emotions. And this is an indicator of the degree of public confidence in the defense ...

    And God forbid us to continue to be interested in the work of these special services.
  3. Motherland Russia
    Motherland Russia 12 June 2016 06: 38
    +9
    Experienced and wise. More to such.
  4. dmi.pris
    dmi.pris 12 June 2016 06: 38
    +5
    A very interesting article. Yes, this service is not the teaching staff or the traffic police, which is visible to everyone. It is very good that they stop terrorists at the design stage. Everything goes according to plan.
  5. Thunderbolt
    Thunderbolt 12 June 2016 06: 39
    +3
    Major General of the FSB
    In the FSB, 2 stars in pursuit mean the rank of major general?
  6. kind
    kind 12 June 2016 06: 42
    +2
    FSB Major General Alexander Mikhailov

    Why is the lieutenant general in the photo at the beginning of the article ???
    1. Ugrumiy
      Ugrumiy 12 June 2016 07: 13
      +5
      Because he is a major general of the FSB and at the same time lieutenant general of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, and in the photo he is just in the general form of the Ministry of Internal Affairs. You have to be careful.
      1. Bath
        Bath 12 June 2016 08: 34
        +2
        But can this just happen?
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        2. midivan
          midivan 12 June 2016 18: 37
          +1
          Quote: Bath
          But can this just happen?

          Former head of the Department of interagency and information activities of the Federal Drug Control Service of Russia (FSKN); Major General of the FSB Reserve, retired police lieutenant general, police lieutenant general; born October 27, 1950 in Moscow. http://viperson.ru/people/mihaylov-aleksandr-georgievich
    2. PHANTOM-AS
      PHANTOM-AS 12 June 2016 13: 35
      +1
      Quote: AUTHOR
      held executive positions, including in the Fifth Directorate of the KGB of the USSR (political counterintelligence);

      I have one single question!
      Why did these "glorious" KGB officers not prevent the main terrorist act in our life, the collapse of the USSR and the coming of the Eltsinoids to power ????? !!!!
      1. Andrey Yuryevich
        Andrey Yuryevich 12 June 2016 19: 28
        0
        Quote: PHANTOM-AS
        Why did these "glorious" KGB officers not prevent the main terrorist act in our life - the collapse of the USSR and the coming of the Eltsinoids to power?

        you can’t prevent-head. (satisfied with the answer?)
  7. wandlitz
    wandlitz 12 June 2016 06: 45
    +4
    security service performs its direct duties.
    I wish you success in this difficult and difficult service.
  8. Antiprogressor
    Antiprogressor 12 June 2016 07: 14
    +2
    It is always. As everything is normal, so: "you do nothing, you need to be cut"
    Like an incident, the whole ministry is on the ears, all the higher authorities rush into events, in rendering assistance, which consists in beating the switchman and constantly distracting everyone from the case ...
    In general, everything is like everyone else. I think this is in many countries. An indicator of good performance is stealth.
    Remember, a Chinese proverb about a good ruler ...
  9. Pitot
    Pitot 12 June 2016 07: 23
    +6
    They work. Imperceptibly. May God grant them health and success.
  10. cap
    cap 12 June 2016 07: 26
    +3
    "Alexander Mikhailov is a unique officer who began his work in the security agencies back in the 70s, under Andropov. He served in the KGB under Brezhnev, Gorbachev and Yeltsin, held leading positions, including in the Fifth Directorate of the USSR KGB (political counterintelligence) ; in 1989 he was appointed the head of the first press service in the USSR in the state security bodies. He retired in 2008 with the rank of major general of the FSB, lieutenant general of the Ministry of Internal Affairs. "
    Truly unique. The agency in which he served first was abolished by the KGB when they abandoned ideology.
    But the smartest person is not in demand. He says smart things.
    It reads:
    “We must understand that you can’t get used to it, but the crisis is real, there’s no getting away from it. Nevertheless, a significant part of people who are, so to speak, on the verge of poverty - and there are a lot of them - is an explosive mass. ”
    “In Russia, of course, a very tolerant attitude towards adversity and hardships, but it is impossible to tighten the screws endlessly in all directions. Let's estimate: we have not seen a single laxative decision of the authorities recently, everything is only aimed at tightening our belts. But they can only be tightened by those who have them, and not by those who do not fit on their stomachs - these are the representatives of top management and elites who are not going to tighten their belts. ”
    “Therefore, people who see and condemn all this while themselves in poverty, compared with the elite, are a very breeding ground for all kinds of extremist emissaries who can take advantage of the plight of people. This is the most important problem today that should concern us. ”
    “But the most important thing is not even that. “The most important thing for any person today, and the most dangerous for society, is a feeling of injustice and the inability to achieve the truth.”
    “And look what is happening even at the level of the president - in his message he says what to do, and his entourage and performers react very sluggishly. Well, if they don't, then the team needs to be changed. "

    That's just the question? Who and when will decide these issues. It is a pity for the abolished service. It is not for nothing that they created it.
  11. sa-ag
    sa-ag 12 June 2016 07: 32
    +4
    I bet the FSB is waiting for the "Purge of the" Hercules "" a la National Guard, the strengthening of loyalty, a preventive action to prevent discontent ...
    "... The head of the" P "department, which provides counterintelligence at industrial enterprises, and the head of the" T "department, which oversees security at transport facilities, submitted their resignation reports. On Friday, June 10, Rosbalt reports, citing a source in the special services.

    The “T” and “P” departments together with the “K” department are the backbone of the Economic Security Service of the FSB of Russia.

    According to the source of the agency, Viktor Voronin, who heads the department “K”, which monitors the banking sector, the flow of budget funds, previously asked for the resignation. Among the potential retirees was Yuri Yakovlev, head of the SEB.

    Yakovlev's successor, according to the agency's source, will be the current head of the FSB's own security department, Sergei Korolev. "Https://lenta.ru/news/2016/06/10/fsb/
  12. Banishing liberoids
    Banishing liberoids 12 June 2016 07: 54
    +1
    I read the article carefully, everything is correctly said, the FSB is not the organization where they catch flies or chew snot.
  13. 31rus2
    31rus2 12 June 2016 08: 00
    +1
    Dear, a person sees real problems, knows what and how to do, which is probably why he is retired, although with such experience and knowledge he could have taught, alas, the country needs hurray patriots, not really thinking staff
    1. midivan
      midivan 12 June 2016 18: 43
      +1
      Quote: 31rus2
      Dear, a person sees real problems, knows what and how to do, which is probably why he is retired, although with such experience and knowledge he could have taught, alas, the country needs hurray patriots, not really thinking staff

      the country needs people who have a little curiosity, and not how you, without knowing what to yell loudly, LEAKED! -
      retired in October 2008; Professor of the Moscow Law Academy and the Moscow Institute of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Russia (1999-2000); Vice-rector of the independent institute of political technologies "Russian School PR"; member of the Council for Foreign and Defense Policy (CFDP); Co-chairman of the Presidium of the National Civil Committee for Cooperation with Law Enforcement, Legislative and Judicial Bodies; member of the Writers' Union of Russia; author of a number of detective books and scientific publications. The link above is there if that smile wink
  14. user3970
    user3970 12 June 2016 08: 41
    +5
    But it is interesting (the look of an amateur), is the FSB the successor to the KGB? So ? But where was that fucking KGB, when Gorbachev, together with Yakovlev, began to trade in the Motherland? Why didn't the KGB jail Yeltsin, Kravchuk and Shushkevich for treason? I live in Vologda. In the Center itself there is a 4-storey FSB building. There is not a single defense enterprise left in the region, everything has been cut to pieces. What are these parasites doing? The former head of the regional police department "retired" with a personal surplus of $ 87 million, explaining this income by 43-year service in the Ministry of Internal Affairs. The mayor of the city suggested that residents eat nettles so as not to die. The governor of Sakhalin was arrested. Why isn’t a local riffraff with gold shoulder straps sitting nearby? And so in all regions of the country. Is the FSB a commercial structure? Is her leader a statesman? Does Patrushev live on one salary? Is he a patriot of his country? And his offspring? But this handsome and polished general did not participate in the collapse of My country?
    1. 31rus2
      31rus2 12 June 2016 11: 32
      0
      There is, of course, some truth, but there is also Chechnya, prevented terrorist attacks, closed drug channels, exposed extremists, the FSB is only part of the system, and the system is "sick"
    2. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 12 June 2016 19: 31
      0
      Quote: user3970
      user3970

      questions about "lemon bucks" ... but there will be no answer ... request
  15. Million
    Million 12 June 2016 08: 46
    0
    The less we know about the FSB, the quieter we sleep! This service should work quietly, imperceptibly and ahead of schedule. And for its work should receive appropriate remuneration
  16. Yuri Y.
    Yuri Y. 12 June 2016 08: 47
    0
    I would pay attention to this remark
    To date, even the West has understood that these characters are not key figures for solving political problems in Russia.

    If so they will search intensely for the application point (to turn Russia over), where? This is if we talk about social movements. Rather, among all sorts of pseudo-patriots and nationalists.
    1. sa-ag
      sa-ag 12 June 2016 08: 57
      +1
      Quote: Yuri Ya.
      This is if we talk about social movements.

      Not there, you have to pay attention to the near-power characters
  17. Chak
    Chak 12 June 2016 11: 01
    +1
    Thank you for the quiet and inconspicuous work! Loud heroism is someone's sloppiness or crime
  18. atamankko
    atamankko 12 June 2016 11: 21
    0
    A smart and competent person, and even self-respecting and his profession, good luck to you.
  19. user3970
    user3970 12 June 2016 13: 24
    0
    The rooster crowed, and then - at least don't bloom. Appearances, passwords - to the studio! and so - simply - air vibrations. Budennovsk, Nord-Ost, Beslan - I remember. I do not remember the work of AOZT FSB to prevent these events. Where are Sudoplatov ??
  20. waleri
    waleri 21 July 2016 08: 33
    +1
    Hello! In pursuit of everything that has been said: "The FSB general about the arrests in the TFR: This is just the beginning"

    http://www.mk.ru/politics/2016/07/20/general-fsb-ob-arestakh-v-skr-eto-tolko-nac
    halo.html
    You, Alexander Georgievich, are absolutely right when you said: “We need to return to the system of the trinity of law enforcement agencies - the prosecutor's office, the FSB and the Ministry of Internal Affairs. And there should be no more subjects of operational-search activity. .. persons of the state level and the crimes committed by them related to corruption, disregard of human rights, punish with the article “treason.” To be honest, one does not have to be proud of the work of the law enforcement system, especially the operational-search work. Before that, all services became operatives that the agents have no one to work with and they go and ask each other about the persons who have committed crimes, often openly, or provoke the subject to commit a crime and even take part, because they have an indulgence from the state in advance "about exemption from criminal liability." Say nonsense. No, not nonsense, but homespun, really. Take the case of fires in the Khakassia and the general contractor Vasily Vasilyevich Smolnikov, through whom the targeted budget money went, without reaching the people affected by the fire, builders who built houses for the victims of the fire, as well as people who were not officially employed and he, their he simply sent, with the words GOD WILL FEE. The TFR in KHAKASIA is just the one that does not work, the cases that he is engaged in are ashamed to be recognized as work. These are "insults" - two reports from the employee and the criminal case is ready. And, how do you, Alexander Georgievich, such a phenomenon - a citizen ran to the police with a complaint about the attack, and he was eventually accused of attacking the duty officer? Therefore, citizens' dissatisfaction with the unsatisfactory work of the law enforcement system is growing, which is due to family and corporate ties. One works in the police - a brother is in the prosecutor's office, the second is a judge, his wife is a prosecutor in criminal proceedings, a police chief and a deputy. The chairman of the court worked together in the Ministry of Internal Affairs. To roll any citizen, no problem. Therefore, you, Alexander Georgievich, solve this problem as soon as possible. Now the personnel question, how it is staffed from what strata, only from the sons of the privileged class (I call them bourgeois sons). This is especially cynical when the press reads: “... - Golodets confidently answered that 35% to 65% are values ​​close to the ideal, .. Many people with higher education are not needed…. Some opinions found on the Internet claim that a decrease in the level of education of the population leads to an increase in the role of the state in all spheres. In other words, the state should impose its policies, values ​​and ideas on uneducated people. It is strange that in a situation where all TVs in the country are broadcasting that Western forces are trying to shatter the foundations of the state, the Deputy Prime Minister declares a similar proportion. After all, we can assume that a comprehensively developed person will find it more difficult to succumb to propaganda from enemies.
    Be that as it may, Medvedev's behests to eliminate legal nihilism have sunk into oblivion. Lenin’s slogans “Learn, study, and study again!” Went there.
    Therefore, the celebrated graduation of the Academy on land vans is quite a predictable phenomenon. Mikhail Mikhalkov’s statement about the right from birth is deeply flawed for the future of RUSSIA. It should be more modest, like Dzerzhinsky Felix Edmundovich both in life and in the service of the fatherland. so i think