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Shoigu: C-300 systems have been supplied to Kazakhstan to strengthen air defense

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Russia donated C-300 ZRS to Kazakhstan to strengthen the Unified Regional Air Defense System, reports RIA News post by Sergei Shoigu.


Shoigu: C-300 systems have been supplied to Kazakhstan to strengthen air defense


“We pay great attention to the development of Russian-Kazakhstan relations in the field of air defense. To strengthen the unified regional air defense system, we supplied Kazakhstan with the C-300PS anti-aircraft missile systems and missiles for them ”,
The minister said at a meeting with his Kazakh counterpart.

“The military-industrial complexes of Russia and Kazakhstan have good prospects for cooperation. Our priority is to create a common, reliable defense potential capable of countering any challenges and threats. We are interested in expanding the forms of military and military-technical cooperation, ”Shoigu added.

He also noted that the Russian Federation, at the request of the Kazakh side, withdrew from rent about 2-x million hectares, previously used in the territory of the country as test sites.

“An important result is the entry into force of the protocols to agreements on the use and lease of test ranges of the Ministry of Defense of Russia on the territory of the republic. We went to meet the Kazakh side and removed more than 1,7 million hectares of land from the lease, ”said the head of the Russian department.

“In continuation of this work, we agreed to prepare for signing a protocol on the Emba test site. Thus, even more 300 thousand hectares of land will be returned to the national economy of Kazakhstan, ”he noted.

According to the agency, during the meeting they also discussed "the issues of training Kazakhstani military personnel in Russian military educational institutions, as well as the transit of Russian military cargo through the territory of Kazakhstan."
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RIA News. Pavel Lisitsyn
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  1. kostella85
    kostella85 8 June 2016 17: 55
    +17
    Now Kazakhstan, in addition to air defense, also needs to strengthen its explosives (internal troops).
    1. tiredwithall
      tiredwithall 8 June 2016 17: 57
      +21
      Most of all, China will not like it. And besides the internal troops, the Kazakhs need to strengthen their heads.
      1. marshes
        marshes 8 June 2016 17: 59
        +1
        Quote: tiredwithall
        Most of all, China will not like it.

        Why did you decide so.
        1. cniza
          cniza 8 June 2016 18: 09
          +9
          Quote: kostella85
          Now Kazakhstan, in addition to air defense, also needs to strengthen its explosives (internal troops).


          Air defense also does not hurt, but you are right.
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          2. Thunderbolt
            Thunderbolt 8 June 2016 18: 33
            +1
            I am glad that the three hundred are not sent to the storage base to rot, but maximize their technical condition and transfer it to the allies.
            As for China, there was a visit by their Minister of Defense to Kazakhstan. I wonder what the agreement was. Although China "bristles" in its southern seas against the Americans, Kazakhstan is also of great interest to it: both as a neighbor and as a trading partner and as a platform for joint projects. And it will try to squeeze us out in Central Asia: the sale of systems similar to the S-300 to Uzbekistan and Turkmenistan is one of the bells. They put them on their equipment. In Tajikistan, the Chinese donate armored vehicles for nothing. But there is security, although how to say After all, China is playing its game in Afghanistan. Having like-minded Pakistan in like-mindedness, it is clear who he is betting on there. And we are arming the Taliban opponents by essentially having a common companion with the Americans. Such a tangled tangle turns out.
            P.S. Regarding the disturbing events in Kazakhstan, the same risks exist in any other former republic of the USSR, including ours. The Baltic states just do not fit into this still life. The single board has its enormous advantages, but there are also disadvantages. It’s easier to split the elite and undermine the situation. And the CIA always hits these pain points.
            Against this background, I want to ask how it is in Kyrgyzstan .. That's where you should pay special attention to the line of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and the Foreign Intelligence Service.
            1. marshes
              marshes 8 June 2016 18: 39
              +1
              Quote: Thunderbolt
              .And will try to squeeze us in Middle Asia: selling to Uzbekistan and Turkmenistan systems similar to the S-300 is one of the bells and whistles.

              Yes, S-300 analogues were offered to us.
              Now at least there are shock UAVs, those that have been tested in Iraq.
              1. Thunderbolt
                Thunderbolt 8 June 2016 20: 39
                +1
                Quote: marshes
                Now at least there are shock UAVs, those that have been tested in Iraq.
                It is convenient to chase the probably bearded "saigas" of the IG across the steppe, if something happens. Our industry can not yet please us with shock workers. Therefore, I am calm about cooperation between Kazakhstan and other countries because of such cases.

                Quote: marshes
                S-300 was offered to us.

                Well, now you know what to answer them: "No, thanks, we already have original bully
                1. marshes
                  marshes 8 June 2016 20: 47
                  +2
                  Quote: Thunderbolt
                  It is convenient to chase probably bearded "saigas" across the steppe. Our industry cannot yet please us with shock workers. Therefore, I am calm about cooperation between Kazakhstan and other countries because of such cases.

                  Yes, the one that they skated in Iraq is close to the Amerian traitor.
                  Quote: Thunderbolt
                  Well, now you know what to answer them: "No, thanks, we already have the original

                  Yes, it is possible only as your press and the population react to this.
                  Kirghizia itself donated more than a cartload of ammunition, 82mm mines, a lot of car mortars ... but there’s no sound in your press. And also with -75, and soon 125 ... on a no-pay basis and you are on 300 shows arranged.
                2. Bongo
                  Bongo 9 June 2016 01: 44
                  +3
                  Quote: Thunderbolt
                  Well, now you know what to answer them: "No, thanks, we already have the original

                  This is not a very new "original" built in the 80s. Do not underestimate the modern Chinese air defense systems, their HQ-9A at the level of the C-300PM.
                  1. MMX
                    MMX 9 June 2016 04: 33
                    0
                    Quote: Bongo
                    Quote: Thunderbolt
                    Well, now you know what to answer them: "No, thanks, we already have the original

                    This is not a very new "original" built in the 80s. Do not underestimate the modern Chinese air defense systems, their HQ-9A at the level of the C-300PM.


                    I would say this: do not overestimate Chinese technology.
                    1. Bongo
                      Bongo 9 June 2016 04: 48
                      +2
                      Quote: MMX
                      I would say this: do not overestimate Chinese technology.

                      The equipment, at least Pvoshnoy in the PRC, is produced quite at the level. The Chinese managed to get away from using imported components and software. Can we boast of this in our products that appeared 5-10 years ago?
                      PRC Air Defense System
                      1. MMX
                        MMX 9 June 2016 08: 58
                        0
                        Quote: Bongo
                        Quote: MMX
                        I would say this: do not overestimate Chinese technology.

                        The equipment, at least Pvoshnoy in the PRC, is produced quite at the level.


                        But who does it argue about the presence of it, this very technique?
                        The question is different: how much does the copy match the original. From personal experience I can say that all the technical products of the People's Republic of China that I have met are far behind the originals (and I'm not talking about consumer goods now).

                        The Chinese managed to get away from using imported components and software. Can we boast of this in our products that appeared 5-10 years ago?


                        We can.
                        And even more: we can boast that we have our own developments, and not copies of foreign samples. And its own "school", one of the strongest in the world.
                        But the Chinese cannot boast of this. Maybe in the future they can, but for now, talking prematurely. Who knows what's over the horizon ...
                      2. Bongo
                        Bongo 9 June 2016 09: 15
                        +2
                        Quote: MMX
                        But who does it argue about the presence of it, this very technique?
                        The question is different: how much does the copy match the original.

                        If you clicked on the active link that I gave you, then perhaps you would not have written this. HQ-9A, like some other anti-aircraft systems, are no longer copies, but their own products created taking into account foreign experience, including SAMs in their characteristics not inferior to our 48Н6E2. They use Chinese parts, components and software.
                        Quote: MMX
                        We can.
                        No. Could ...
                        Quote: MMX
                        And even more: we can boast that we have our own developments, and not copies of foreign samples.

                        Every year, unfortunately, in our products for defense and "special" purposes, more and more imported components. And while the trend is not comforting. Ask about the share of foreign electronics in the Su-35S avionics or the history of missiles for it.
                      3. MMX
                        MMX 9 June 2016 10: 15
                        0
                        [quote = Bongo]
                        The question is different: how much does the copy match the original. [/ quote]
                        If you clicked on the active link that I gave you, then perhaps you would not have written this. HQ-9A, like some other anti-aircraft systems, are no longer copies, but their own products created taking into account foreign experience, including SAMs in their characteristics not inferior to our 48Н6E2. They use Chinese parts, components and software.
                        [/ Quote]

                        I read what is in the link. It just says that Chinese products are derived from our designs. Well, Duc and S-300 are not the first freshness ...

                        [quote] no Could ... [/ quote]

                        C-400 and C-500 are not our developments anymore?

                        [quote] Every year, unfortunately, in our products for defense and "special" purposes, there are more and more imported components. And while the trend is not comforting. Ask about the share of foreign electronics in the Su-35S avionics or the history of missiles for it. [/ Quote]

                        1. As far as I remember, we have a kind of sanction and embargo on the supply of defense products from outside. Or am I wrong?
                        2. It was originally about the air defense and missile defense system. And where is the Su-35S?
                        3. Our defense industry also works for export, and the customer sometimes requires appropriate filling. Hence the bourgeois nishtyaks in products (including in Su-shka).
                      4. Bongo
                        Bongo 9 June 2016 10: 27
                        +2
                        Quote: MMX
                        I read what is in the link. It just says that Chinese products are derived from our designs.

                        It also says:
                        A number of design features and technical solutions of this complex were largely borrowed by Chinese engineers during the design of the HQ-9. However, it is incorrect to assume that this complex is a clone of the Russian C-300P.
                        Quote: MMX
                        As far as I remember, we have a kind of sanction and embargo on the supply of defense products from outside. Or am I wrong?

                        But China and India also imposed sanctions against us? what Did not know...
                        Quote: MMX
                        It was originally about the air defense and missile defense system. And where is the Su-35C?

                        And despite the fact that I do not want to come into conflict with the law on state secrets, I was already "poked with my nose" about this recourse and I write only about what is easy to check in "open sources". I assure you in other areas the situation is the same as in aircraft construction. Previously, blocks could be repaired in parts, now only at the manufacturing plant. There are no schemes, and the marking of the chips is smeared.
                        Quote: MMX
                        Our defense industry also works for export, and the customer sometimes requires the appropriate filling. Hence the bourgeois nishtyaki in products
                        It's not even about "nishtyaks", but about element base.
                      5. Bongo
                        Bongo 9 June 2016 10: 34
                        +3
                        Unfortunately, everything didn’t come in.
                        Quote: MMX
                        Well, Duc and C-300 are not the first freshness ...

                        S-300PS and S-300PM air defense systems in our air defense systems comprise more than half of all available systems. Also, ask what SAMs are used in C-400.
                        Quote: MMX
                        C-400 and C-500 are not our developments anymore?
                        Do you sincerely believe that in the S-400 air defense system the entire elemental base is domestic? Then you are a big optimist.
                        I can’t say anything for C-500, because this troops have no anti-ballistic and anti-satellite system yet.
                      6. MMX
                        MMX 9 June 2016 12: 11
                        -2
                        Quote: Bongo
                        Unfortunately, everything didn’t come in.
                        Quote: MMX
                        Well, Duc and C-300 are not the first freshness ...

                        S-300PS and S-300PM air defense systems in our air defense systems comprise more than half of all available systems. Also, ask what SAMs are used in C-400.
                        Quote: MMX
                        C-400 and C-500 are not our developments anymore?
                        Do you sincerely believe that in the S-400 air defense system the entire elemental base is domestic? Then you are a big optimist.
                        I can’t say anything for C-500, because this troops have no anti-ballistic and anti-satellite system yet.


                        I will answer here.
                        1. Show me examples of components from India and China in the S-300/400 (we don’t say 500 yet, but apparently everything is ready for testing).
                        2. Show me an example of weapons for us with components from India and China.
                        3. Yes, our elemental base. Refute if you can.
                        4. If China has all the "nishtyak" in terms of their air defense systems, then why do they need a contract for the purchase of the S-400?
                      7. Bongo
                        Bongo 9 June 2016 13: 37
                        +3
                        Quote: MMX
                        Show me examples of components from India and China in C-300 / 400 (we don’t speak 500 yet, but apparently everything is ready for testing

                        As if not writing for you:
                        Quote: Bongo
                        I do not want to come into conflict with the law on state secrets, so they have already poked me about this and write only about what is easy to check in "open sources".
                        You may not be aware, but the construction of C-300ПМ for its own armed forces was completed 20 years ago, after only for export, but foreign components were definitely present there.
                        Quote: MMX
                        Show me an example of weapons for us with components from India and China.

                        "Drying" with imported filling
                        On the features of the use of imported components in military and special equipment
                        Quote: MMX
                        Yes, the elemental base is ours. Refute if you can.
                        Prove it if you can, I’m not going to refute you. it’s enough for me that I know.
                        Quote: MMX
                        If China has all the "nishtyak" in terms of their air defense systems, then why would they need a contract to purchase the S-400?

                        They are primarily interested in the hardware. C-400 is purchased by the PRC in scanty quantities, clearly for familiarization and development of countermeasures.
                      8. MMX
                        MMX 9 June 2016 18: 06
                        0
                        Quote: Bongo

                        As if not writing for you
                        You may not be aware, but the construction of C-300ПМ for its own armed forces was completed 20 years ago, after only for export, but foreign components were definitely present there.


                        What are we talking about. I specifically wrote about our domestic consumption. Export is a separate issue.

                        PR and this Su-35 was created in specific conditions. Therefore, it is rather an exception to the rule. It should also be borne in mind that contractors from the CIS countries are also foreign, and most of all with them.

                        Prove it if you can, I’m not going to refute you. it’s enough for me that I know.


                        I have already indicated: S-300/400 for myself (as an example on the topic). Well, your knowledge is "very convincing".

                        They are primarily interested in the hardware. C-400 is purchased by the PRC in scanty quantities, clearly for familiarization and development of countermeasures.


                        Well, yes, given the fact that they all copied before, it’s very logical to conclude that now they’ll just look and learn how to counter it ... Bravo!
  • Bongo
    Bongo 9 June 2016 01: 41
    +3
    Quote: Thunderbolt
    I am glad that the three hundred are not sent to the storage base to rot, but maximize their technical condition and transfer it to the allies.
    Alexei, these C-300PS underwent restoration repairs, but did not radically modernize. Apparently we are talking about air defense systems that were replaced in our S-400 air defense systems. With anti-aircraft systems and with surveillance radars in Kazakhstan, things are bad. The vast territory of the republic is not covered by anything. For this reason, the S-75М3 and С-200ВМ air defense systems are forced to remain in service. And the existing C-300PS carry a truncated database.
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  • user1212
    user1212 9 June 2016 01: 59
    +1
    Quote: kostella85
    Now Kazakhstan, in addition to air defense, also needs to strengthen its explosives (internal troops).

    They have explosives, but to protect them from the democratic strip bombardment
  • dr.star75
    dr.star75 8 June 2016 17: 58
    +3
    In the light of recent events, they did the right thing.
  • marshes
    marshes 8 June 2016 18: 03
    +8
    In short, the S-300s were delivered last year.
    They have been waiting for them since 2010, without suffering having bought from Ukraine.
    They didn’t count on a "gift", well, they don’t look at a gift horse. I want to notice other air defense equipment we buy from you and also conduct training from you.
    1. Inok10
      Inok10 8 June 2016 18: 27
      +3
      Quote: marshes
      They have been waiting for them since 2010, without suffering having bought from Ukraine.

      ... negative ... from 12.08.2015/XNUMX/XNUMX, quote:
      "The air defense forces of the Air Defense Forces of the Armed Forces (NWO AF) of Kazakhstan received five modern S-300PS anti-aircraft missile systems from the presence of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation free of charge," the statement says.
      The complexes were delivered by rail to the Zhetysu station near Alma-Ata.
      "The S-300PS anti-aircraft missile systems will be tested in practical combat firing and transferred to service in the subordinate military units of the air defense forces of the Air Defense Forces of the Armed Forces of the Republic of Kazakhstan to carry out combat duty to cover the airspace of the republic," the press service of the commander of the air defense forces of the Air Defense Forces quotes Sun Nurzhan Mukanov.
      РИА Новости http://ria.ru/defense_safety/20150812/1179774094.html#ixzz4B0Aor5s8
      ... 5 divisions ... hi
      1. marshes
        marshes 8 June 2016 18: 33
        +1
        Quote: Inok10
        ... 5 divisions ..

        So from last year on combat duty in Almaty.
        Others have been covering Astana for a long time.
        1. Inok10
          Inok10 8 June 2016 19: 03
          +3
          ... what are the rest? ... talk for:
          Quote: marshes
          In short, the S-300s were delivered last year. Waited for them since 2010, not having endured bought from Ukraine.

          ... what did they buy from Krajina ?! ... in more detail it is possible and modification pliz ... horror is curious ... laughing
          1. marshes
            marshes 8 June 2016 19: 08
            -1
            Quote: Inok10
            ... what did they buy from Krajina ?! ... in more detail it is possible and modification pliz ... horror is curious ...

            300 tye still at Yanuka, those awesome repairs were carried out, shot at 5, it works.
            And we have 75,125, and 200 were mostly 31 in work.
            If China needed us, it attacked a long time ago.
            1. Inok10
              Inok10 8 June 2016 19: 22
              +5
              Quote: marshes
              300 tye still at Yanuka, those awesome repairs were carried out, shot at 5, it works.

              ... talker in short pants ... laughing laughing laughing ... 5 divisions went to Kazakhstan from the Union together with the facilities ... 10 PMU-2 divisions were delivered from 9 to 12 by Russia, for barter and part of the payment for rental landfills, deployed in the N87 anti-aircraft missile brigade (Alma -Ata), anti-aircraft missile regiments: N770 (Georgievka), N374 (Serebryansk). As well as the air defense divisions that are part of the country's naval forces in the Caspian .... 5 more SS divisions from the presence of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation after overhaul were donated in 2015 ... do not whistle Shur, there will be no money ... laughing laughing laughing ... sho, with regards to Krainsky S-300PTs and PSs ... PTs were written off a long time ago, about 5 years ago, Almaz-Antey refused to support them, as well as missiles ... from the remaining more or less fresh S-300PS in quantity 11-14 divisions ... by trepanning materiel, relatively combat-ready 7-8 divisions were assembled with difficulty, and the question of how they will shoot will escort the Krainsky missiles 5V55R "Almaz-Antey" does not lead, the storage periods are long gone ... hi
              1. marshes
                marshes 8 June 2016 19: 42
                +3
                Quote: Inok10
                ... talker in short pants ...

                Responsible for the bazaar?
                Quote: Inok10
                . 10 PMU-2 divisions were delivered from 9 to 12 years by Russia, for barter and part of the payment for the rental of landfills, deployed in the N87 anti-aircraft missile brigade (Alma-Ata),

                They are all in Astana, you do not know do not star. laughing
                Quote: Inok10
                . 5 more SS divisions from the presence of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation after overhaul were donated in 2015

                So they were delivered in Almaty.
                What you do not know, do not star.
                1. Kasym
                  Kasym 8 June 2016 22: 39
                  +6
                  Russia had to and in one day removed all nuclear weapons with carriers (4 arsenal in the world). It was necessary to preserve the production of torpedoes, we needed a proving ground infrastructure and a number of military facilities - all this has been preserved and continues to work so far (like a lot of everything in the military-industrial complex).
                  We need to strengthen air defense and air force. So everything is fraternal, men. No need to look for problems where they do not exist. hi
                2. Bongo
                  Bongo 9 June 2016 01: 47
                  +2
                  Quote: marshes
                  So they were delivered in Almaty.
                  What you do not know, do not star.

                  Do not pay attention, Inok10 is usually not responsible for his words. Not so long ago, he claimed that all C-300PS in the Russian Federation were withdrawn from service. wassat
            2. MMX
              MMX 9 June 2016 04: 27
              0
              Quote: marshes

              If China needed us, it attacked a long time ago.


              Yes, for such a conclusion, the Nobel Prize must be given!
              Just a titan of thought, lump!
    2. MMX
      MMX 9 June 2016 04: 22
      0
      Quote: marshes

      They didn’t count on a "gift", well, they don’t look a gift horse.


      Quote: marshes
      I want to note the other air defense systems we are purchasing from you and we are also conducting studies from you.


      You already decide whether you need to give or prefer to buy?
  • evil partisan
    evil partisan 8 June 2016 18: 05
    +11
    Strengthening the air defense of Kazakhstan is certainly good. But now, first of all, it is necessary to strengthen Nazarbayev himself and his successor (successor ...). By all means ...
  • Tim
    Tim 8 June 2016 18: 21
    +5
    Correctly, the stronger the air defense of Kazakhstan, the calmer in Russia.
  • sober
    sober 8 June 2016 18: 29
    +5
    probably already good too ?? !!!
  • Alexandr2637
    Alexandr2637 8 June 2016 18: 31
    +2
    That's right!
    NATO cattle still need to be brought down on approach.
  • marshes
    marshes 8 June 2016 18: 36
    -8
    If you want Kazakhstan’s air defense for Russia to work, you are carrying out normal MIG-31 repairs, one of which you already lost after the repair in Rzhev.
    1. Egevich
      Egevich 8 June 2016 18: 41
      0
      Quote: marshes
      If you want Kazakhstan’s air defense for Russia to work, you are carrying out normal MIG-31 repairs, one of which you already lost after the repair in Rzhev.

      Have you learned how to make your own MiG-31? .. congratulations ...
      1. marshes
        marshes 8 June 2016 18: 53
        +4
        Quote: Egevich
        Have you learned how to make your own MiG-31? .. congratulations ...

        No, but what is sent for repair in the Russian Federation, if possible we will carry out repairs ourselves, by the way we are in service.
  • vanavatny
    vanavatny 8 June 2016 18: 36
    +4
    today the local gray skulls have a day off, no one yells about the inadmissibility of a donation, etc.
    1. marshes
      marshes 8 June 2016 18: 39
      +3
      Quote: vanavate
      today the local gray skulls have a day off, no one yells about the inadmissibility of a donation, etc.

      ON LOOK screaming. smile
      1. vanavatny
        vanavatny 8 June 2016 23: 59
        +1
        sincerely: WHERE?
  • marshes
    marshes 8 June 2016 18: 58
    +4
    And I’ll add about help, Kazakhstan has long transferred to the CSTO ally Kyrgyzstan a rather impressive arsenal as well as transferred components to the S-75 complex, free of charge.
    1. boforss
      boforss 9 June 2016 01: 37
      +2
      swamps (3) KZ Yesterday, 18:58 New
      And I’ll add about help, Kazakhstan has long transferred to the CSTO ally Kyrgyzstan a rather impressive arsenal as well as transferred components to the S-75 complex, free of charge.


      Not yet handed over, only going.
    2. Humpty
      Humpty 9 June 2016 05: 59
      0
      Quote: marshes
      And I’ll add about help, Kazakhstan has long transferred to the CSTO ally Kyrgyzstan a rather impressive arsenal as well as transferred components to the S-75 complex, free of charge.

      And we need the idea of ​​"Buk" and "Shell". It is desirable for free, give the beggars on Lexus.
      Quote: boforss
      Not yet handed over, only going.

      All the same, this will not affect the combat effectiveness. In general, the ground-based air defense systems of Kyrgyzstan and with the alliance were not sufficiently effective. Therefore, the surface elements of the territory were falsified on maps. Perhaps the enemy to buy bullshit.
  • Humpty
    Humpty 8 June 2016 19: 06
    +4
    Quote: Angry Guerrilla
    But now, first of all, it is necessary to strengthen Nazarbayev himself and his successor (successor ...).

    It somehow smacks of the idea of ​​some kind of socially backward society a la "Isaac gave birth to Jacob ...", etc. Like the good (not really good) old days.
    And if we reason in the form of some metaphors concerning Asia, then Chingiz Aitmatov comes to mind as one of the personifications of Asian metaphors - a Kyrgyz and Tatar writer to a certain extent. His early works are quite interesting, although they revolve around simple, sometimes naive ideas. He had the story "The First Teacher", it was even popularized in the cinema by the former Soviet director Konchalovsky. There, the idea revolves around an old poplar. It is very instructive what one does with an old poplar.
  • avg-mgn
    avg-mgn 8 June 2016 19: 08
    +4
    swamps (3) KZ
    Don’t be angry. We do one thing, we protect one sky, who knows where it will fly from, if that. Ugh, ugh ...
  • masiya
    masiya 8 June 2016 19: 12
    +2
    There it is necessary to look urgently for a normal adequate and our future leader of the country, otherwise everything will go to waste neither S-300s will not save or our divisions (Rosguards or special forces to precisely respond to emerging security threats) and the threat is real, the Americans are not sleeping ... and it’s not the Hohland Maidanut’s garden that is fenced, but the pure US CIAshniki are too big a map.
    1. diver1977
      diver1977 9 June 2016 07: 55
      0
      You say so, as if Kazakhstan is your province. Kazakhstan is not your sandbox, where you do what you want, but an independent state, which voluntarily and meaningfully allies with Russia. We’ll figure it out ourselves.
      You have not many allies in the world to treat them frivolously like that! Or has Russia become like the United States, which dictates its will to its vassals? I don’t think so.
  • NyeMoNik70
    NyeMoNik70 8 June 2016 19: 25
    -5
    The missiles were handed over, the land was returned. A somewhat one-sided allied relationship. Although politics is of course a dark matter.
    1. diver1977
      diver1977 9 June 2016 08: 00
      0
      In what sense was "returned"? Do you have any idea where these polygons are located, what are they, what sizes are they?
      They removed part of the landfill from the lease stupidly because they were not used. These are areas comparable in size to the size of countries left over from the times of the USSR.
      VO is steadily rolling into the abyss of unprofessionalism. As the holidays begin - "experts" come running.
  • CAH4OYC
    CAH4OYC 8 June 2016 19: 30
    -3
    They threw Kazakhs with Iranians on the S-400! recourse
  • something like
    something like 8 June 2016 19: 45
    +2
    Quote: marshes
    In short, the S-300s were delivered last year.
    They have been waiting for them since 2010, without suffering having bought from Ukraine.
    They didn’t count on a "gift", well, they don’t look at a gift horse. I want to notice other air defense equipment we buy from you and also conduct training from you.

    Ukrainians themselves have problems with air defense what could be bought there and from Russia 6 battalions received + missiles to them so do not whistle
    1. marshes
      marshes 8 June 2016 19: 59
      0
      Quote: something like this
      Ukrainians themselves have problems with air defense what could be bought there and from Russia 6 battalions received + missiles to them so do not whistle

      Purchased earlier ... so that Russophile is not a star.
      Three years ago, infa was on this site, I’ve tried to Ukrainians before where they removed from combat duty. From which direction.
  • something like
    something like 8 June 2016 19: 49
    +2
    Quote: Inok10
    Quote: marshes
    300 tye still at Yanuka, those awesome repairs were carried out, shot at 5, it works.

    ... talker in short pants ... laughing laughing laughing ... 5 divisions went to Kazakhstan from the Union together with the facilities ... 10 PMU-2 divisions were delivered from 9 to 12 by Russia, for barter and part of the payment for rental landfills, deployed in the N87 anti-aircraft missile brigade (Alma -Ata), anti-aircraft missile regiments: N770 (Georgievka), N374 (Serebryansk). As well as the air defense divisions that are part of the country's naval forces in the Caspian .... 5 more SS divisions from the presence of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation after overhaul were donated in 2015 ... do not whistle Shur, there will be no money ... laughing laughing laughing ... sho, with regards to Krainsky S-300PTs and PSs ... PTs were written off a long time ago, about 5 years ago, Almaz-Antey refused to support them, as well as missiles ... from the remaining more or less fresh S-300PS in quantity 11-14 divisions ... by trepanning materiel, relatively combat-ready 7-8 divisions were assembled with difficulty, and the question of how they will shoot will escort the Krainsky missiles 5V55R "Almaz-Antey" does not lead, the storage periods are long gone ... hi

    absolutely everything
    1. marshes
      marshes 8 June 2016 20: 00
      +1
      Quote: something like this
      absolutely everything

      What exactly?
  • Yak28
    Yak28 8 June 2016 20: 18
    +1
    Quote: vanavate
    today the local gray skulls have a day off, no one yells about the inadmissibility of a donation, etc.

    I will say in order to dilute the gray mass wink Russia delivered to Kazakhstan on a gratuitous basis .... then it does not matter, did Russia do little for Ukraine on a gratuitous basis? The result is clear today, but how many countries did the USSR help on a gratuitous basis? Many have already joined NATO and are bending an anti-Russian policy. And how many countries has Russia forgiven debts? To how many countries does Russia still shove money in the mouth and in the ass, so that they do not run away under the wing of the United States? The Americans are great, there is no one to invest a dollar in if in 10 replacements will not be received, but Russia has a trump card for the Russian people, so he will handle everyone, help everyone free of charge. And tomorrow, for example, in Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan or Tajikistan, the pro-American leadership will come to power, like in Ukraine or Georgia, and what next? speculated, forgiven their debts, and now we will help you, but in return what? And in return they are not yet with the United States, here are such rotten "friends" in Russia
    1. diver1977
      diver1977 9 June 2016 08: 08
      +1
      Vacations have begun, my friend?
      What do you even know about the relations between our countries? In economic terms, what are the integration processes going on? In military cooperation? To snatch a piece from the article and speculate with it - a lot of mind is not necessary. Read the analytics. Such posts are terribly annoying from people who don’t know a single gram about Kazakhstan, or about agreements between the Russian Federation and the Republic of Kazakhstan - nothing at all. Do you even know that we have common air defense? Do you know how many military facilities of the Russian Federation in the Republic of Kazakhstan?
      I believe that such stuffing is in the hands of our American partners, who have already left Russia in the world with virtually no allies.
    2. diver1977
      diver1977 9 June 2016 08: 23
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      You bullied with this Baikonur. For clarity, the rent for Baikonur is meager in the scale of our economy. All the bullshit with Baikonur revolves around Russia's reluctance to help develop the space industry, as well as around environmental threats, I'm talking about the notorious heptyl. According to studies, it is already everywhere with us and its effect on the body is terrifying. Google to the rescue.
      Further. We are not with the United States, we are with Russia (contrary to such vicious trolls). Not with the United States, we have the longest land border. And not with the United States, we had and will have a common economic space. And the past is not the United States either.
      Kazakhstan defends the underbelly of Russia, the loss of Kazakhstan for Russia will mean complete destruction, I'm not joking. Look at the map. The loss of Kazakhstan is the shattering of all of Central Asia, millions of refugees to Russia, an increase in spasmodic extremist movements, the emergence of NATO bases, unimaginably huge expenditures on strengthening (read - creating) border infrastructures, air defense systems and so on. In the future - the free penetration of militants from the southern hot spots, fun, in jeeps, columns, with hooting and ISIS flags in the very heart of Russia. Do we need it? So let's not hang tags, and return the money to the State Department - you did not work it out.
  • marshes
    marshes 8 June 2016 20: 26
    -3
    In short, one conclusion laughing So that the population of the neighbors is not "steamed" Zrka complexes should be bought from China and Israel. laughing They do not even call us names, go on principle. laughing
    1. MMX
      MMX 9 June 2016 04: 43
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      Quote: marshes
      In short, one conclusion laughing So that the population of the neighbors is not "steamed" Zrka complexes should be bought from China and Israel. laughing They do not even call us names, go on principle. laughing


      Well, for the time being, only you are bombing here.

      PS. Holidays?
  • pioner
    pioner 8 June 2016 20: 35
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    And we don’t want to transfer Belarus, free of charge?
    1. Thunderbolt
      Thunderbolt 8 June 2016 20: 54
      +4
      Everything is fine. Belarus also received four S-300PS air defense divisions for free from Russia as part of the creation of a unified air defense system.
      1. Yak28
        Yak28 8 June 2016 21: 04
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        Does Russia have allies who did not receive s-300 from Russia, to which Russia did not forgive billions of dollars? Or, as before, some parasites?
        1. boforss
          boforss 9 June 2016 03: 15
          +1
          There will be no Russia in Central Asia there will be no parasites. You must understand that Russia is interested in these regions for its own security. Tajikistan, Kyrgyzstan and Uzbekistan, which are no longer in the CSTO (the choice fell in the direction of China and the United States) will become only starting points in the process of moving radical groups to Kazakhstan and Russia. The drug business is one of the main sources of enrichment for Afghan radicals. Control over the borders of Afghanistan with the Central Asian republics actually means the establishment of control over the trafficking of drugs exported from Afghanistan to Russia. For the choice to be with Russia, the republics also pay with colored revolutions, constant swings, Russian-speaking from the side of the fifth column, which raise the topic of the internat, the Russian language, etc. Kyrgyzstan removed the US base, for which it paid was included in the list of "dangerous" countries. At the same time, the military bases of the Russian Federation exist, ensuring, first of all, their national interests, stability in the region. All this gratuitous assistance acts on the principle of you to me, I to you. Only cheese in a mousetrap is free.
  • Mentat
    Mentat 8 June 2016 20: 54
    0
    Did someone call you? I was reading a branch, I didn’t notice.
  • Member
    Member 8 June 2016 21: 04
    0
    Seem the sky over the Caspian Sea closed.
  • proud
    proud 8 June 2016 21: 38
    +1
    Kazakhs are good, but the gaps in their own air defense all closed? I doubt it!