Fire on the minesweeper Georgy Kurbatov, being built in St. Petersburg, put out

The fire caused by the minesweeper Georgy Kurbatov (project 12700) under construction in St. Petersburg is extinguished, there are no victims, it reports RIA News report of the press secretary of the Sredne-Nevsky Shipbuilding Plant Alexander Malakhov.

The fire at the shipyard arose on Tuesday, its area was 600 square. About one hundred rescuers and 20 units of equipment were involved in extinguishing the fire.

“At the moment, the fire is localized and extinguished, there are no victims. The causes of ignition are not yet clear what exactly burned, it is necessary to establish the Ministry of Emergency Situations, since the ship hull itself is not combustible, ”said Malakhov.

As the source later told the agency, the cause of the fire was a violation of safety rules during the fire work.

“The fire in the dry dock of workshop No. 9 occurred during welding operations,” a source said.

According to the press service, "the ship is at the initial stage of construction, shipboard weapons systems have not been installed on it yet."

Help Agency: “The new generation mine defense ship, Georgiy Kurbatov, planned to launch the 29 on July 2016, in the summer of 2017, to conduct tests. The ship was laid down on SNNZ 24 on April 2015. ”

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[Ami du peuple]

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ship hull not combustible

I was surprised to learn that fiberglass does not burn and does not melt. Live and learn

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: Ami du peuple

I was surprised to learn that fiberglass does not burn and does not melt.

And what is it made of fiberglass? -Was made.

[donavi49]

Yes, this is the world's largest fiberglass warship. Even in the book of records.

[Amurets]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

And what is it made of fiberglass?

Yes, you will probably believe this site.http: //topwar.ru/17176-proekt-12700-kompozitnyy-bazovyy-tralschik-aleks
andrit.html

[ShturmKGB]

the main thing is that the hull would not deteriorate, otherwise construction will drag on for years, and ships of this class are now needed!

[donavi49]

It depends on what was burning. But if large fragments of the hull were at 90-120 degrees heat, then the hull is ejected, because there are strength changes, and fiberglass itself leads.

If the zones are small, you can still decide with patches, and if the feed / bow, then it is easier to cast a new one.

There is another question: did the casting stand lead, it will be even more expensive and longer to fix than a new case to be cast.

[Professor]

Quote: Ami du peuple

ship hull not combustible

This is if you set fire to matches, and if necessary, both metal and fiberglass are lit.

Fires during the construction of ships is an ordinary thing. Unfortunately.

[kepmor]

It burns, it also burns so that the horseradish is extinguished - it is necessary to create such a powerful stream of water (2-3 fire barrels with a pressure of 4-6 atm. Per one fire source) in order to detach the flame from the burning surface.
Duralium is also stewed in the same way.

[Vladimirets]

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duralium

What is it?

[kepmor]

This is "naval jargon". In fact - duralumin (an alloy of aluminum, magnesium, copper and manganese), which is often used in shipbuilding.

[Ami du peuple]

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Duralium is also stewed in the same way.

Quote: kepmor

This is "naval jargon". In fact - duralumin (an alloy of aluminum, magnesium, copper and manganese)

Damn, I already thought that duralumin is the younger brother of cast iron. Thank you all for the explanations.

[Bayonet]

Quote: Vladimirets

What is it?

About the same as cast iron, only easier!

[iliitchitch]

What, again, Tajiks were hired, and they shit? But they saved.

[gray smeet]

Quote: iliitch

What, again, Tajiks were hired, and they shit? But they saved.

They've already been brought to all the factories, it's funny, they were at the factory - the workers are Uzbeks, and quite a lot! The enterprise is called in my opinion "Russian buses"!

In the fire - the main thing is that people did not suffer, of course it is unpleasant ...

[SCHWERIN]

Now it is all over the world. People are sometimes hired without qualifications and education. Sometimes even for the construction of one ship. After the delivery of the vessel they are fired. It’s just, as we call them, a laborer. During construction, there are many simple operations that do not require qualifications.
They do not need to pay time off, vacation. Only health is insured at the time of the contract.
Plus - cheaper construction. The competition in shipbuilding is huge. Therefore, applying a well-established migration policy can stay afloat.
But specialists are another group. There are long-term contracts.
Life has changed, alas

[fzr1000]

Vietnamese worked at ZIL under the USSR. Nothing is new.

[Scoun]

Quote: iliitch

What, again they hired Tajiks

and then what is the same "Tajiks"?
Anything can happen.

TC Star
12:56
F-16 fighters collided in the USA
Two F-16 jets collided at about 4:30 Moscow time in the Jefferson County of the US state of Georgia, RIA Novosti reported with reference to the WDTN television channel. According to the National Guard of South Carolina, the pilots of both fighters managed to eject.

Chota they straight poppedo. The second collision in a week and I don’t remember what the incident was.
PS.
As if ours did not have to save American pilots in Syria.

[Alexander Romanov]

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Chota they straight poppedo.

You’re dropping cattle.

[Vladimir61]

It seems like fools and roads, soon it will be necessary to add fires in shipyards.
There is nothing, but smoke "to heaven". 600 squares, this is not a toilet burned out! As in the old army joke, about the report of the unit on duty - "During my watch, nothing happened - only the dog died. He died because the horses were overeating - when the stables burned down."

[Revolver]

Quote: Leonid Utesov
All is well, beautiful marquise.

[AdekvatNICK]

why you can’t keep safety. It’s so simple.

[33 Watcher]

Quote: AdekvatNICK

why you can’t keep safety. It’s so simple.

Because the TB engineer needs to be carved. Fire safety and labor protection in general at each production facility have a first and last name.

[Manul]

Quote: AdekvatNICK

why you can’t keep safety. It’s so simple.

Well, if you imagine that this is a diversion? One bribe and minus a minesweeper .. Which we have almost none already. That's what the FSO crowds guard EBNteku (the library named after the drunkard) and the Constitutional Court, and at the strategically important objects is anything going on ..? It would be better if they guarded there but checked everything and everyone. Ghosts FSOshnikov breed, but just not engaged in that.

[weksha50]

Yesterday, when there was information about this fire, the mood deteriorated ...

Most likely - sloppiness, carelessness and, as a result, violation of safety rules during work ...

Negative results - two ...
The first one is extra expenses ...
The second is the "history" of a ship that has not yet been built ... "What you call a ship, so it will float" ... That is, it will not be very pleasant for the future crew to serve on such a ship, and this prejudice is difficult to avoid ...

And again - the switchman will be to blame ...

[Berkut24]

Damn, how many submarines, including nuclear ones, how many surface ships were burned by these welders ... How many more ships, money and shipyards need to be burned to finally solve the problem of safety measures and operational fire fighting? Or are all the high technologies in shipbuilding made cheap by low-school / self-taught from the CIS countries ?!
Why do the Chinese every day several ships descend into the water and fires are not heard? Are Chinese welders the most professional in the world?

[kepmor]

Do not say nonsense-welders absolutely nothing to do with it!
Do you think that the welder is alone at the site of the hot work?
I will not quote articles from RBZH-NK, I will say one thing that a lot of people and fire-fighting equipment are involved in this process.
The mechanic (commander of the BC-5) is responsible for the organization of welding on the ship, and if there is no crew, then the "builder" of the order.
And if there is a fire, the firemen on duty should extinguish it in a timely manner, if it is not possible to localize the fire within 1-2 minutes, then an emergency party with the fire brigade of the plant should be called in by the team responsible for carrying out the fire work (officer, midshipman) be in close proximity to the place of welding.
So everything depends on the organization itself and the discipline of the participants in the process.
A fire on a ship is a man-made business ...

[Manul]

Quote: kepmor

Do not say nonsense-welders absolutely nothing to do with it!
Do you think that the welder is alone at the site of the hot work?

To carry out welding work at a civilian facility - a huge hemorrhoid. A welder with a crust and a pozhtekhminum, a work permit, a fire extinguisher or a bucket of water-sand, or glass cloth, a firefighter's workplace check before and after work, 2 hours later to check after welding works .. How can fires occur on strategically important objects? Still, there was a fire on the "Vostochny" (ugh 3 times)

[AlexTires]

After extinguishing (uneven heating, cooling with water), the one-piece body will necessarily "lead", and in some places there will be embrittlement, you will pierce it with your finger. It is no longer possible to send it to the sea because the structure of the hull has already been broken, it is easier, alas, to cast a new one ... In general, for such things during construction you have to beat in the balls, the usual excuses - like we cooked and sparks hit the hull - should not be rolled. ..

[Revolver]

Quote: AlexTires

solid body

And where did you see the solid-cast hull of the ship? The tanks still met, but that the ship - it somehow sounds strange.

[donavi49]

The case itself is one-piece, but the filling is separately recruited, added.

In general, the case is not very expensive and casts quite quickly. Unlike the casting stand, which could also suffer, but this is the stop of the casting at 1,5-2 of the year.

This is how it happens, the stand itself:


The body is poured into it:


Then they gain an inner core to a certain structural level:


Then the stand is pushed apart and the finished building is displayed:


Having removed the matrix, the case is brought back in and formed, saturated. The stand can work on the next ship - judging by the photo, Kurbatov was in this stage of saturation and formation, already without a stand, and burned on, where the stand should supposedly be.

[Revolver]

I forgot about plastic. I am a mechanical engineer with a Soviet education, the last century, for me casting is cast iron, steel, bronze, aluminum ...
But I had to (in the pictures, not in kind) see planes with a seamless glider. The Chinese SU-27 pulled off, they wanted the whole thing, but it didn’t work out with the engines, and the J-11 glider is seamless.


And the pictures are interesting. Technology has taken a step, you can’t say anything.

[sergeyzzz]

What kind of mess is going on at all shipbuilding and ship repair plants, not a single month passes without a major fire.

[Pitot]

damn, but what about the security during welding? The builder, the master for the zugunder and the stick for non-compliance with the Rules. Although, I somehow had a return on an acetylene cylinder. The formula was 2x4 (special container - 2 acytel. And 4 oxygen), it was lucky, the wind blew in the opposite direction from oxygen cylinders.

[kepmor]

How to drink to give, in the "shirt" were born ...

[avg-mgn]

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Quote: iliitch

What , Tajiks hired again and they shit? But they saved.

They've already been brought to all the factories, it's funny, they were at the factory - the workers are Uzbeks, and quite a lot! The enterprise is called in my opinion "Russian buses"!

They were also forbidden to use in skilled work in enterprises with state participation. What is this, your guess or is it really so? Then the management to sit.

[chunga-changa]

The sad news is, give Gd without any special consequences for the production.

[Fonmeg]

Something suspiciously often recently there have been fires on ships under construction or being repaired at shipyards ?! Where is Rostekhnadzor, where is the Ministry of Emergencies with its control? By the way there was infa about intentional arson.