Strelkov (Girkin) gave an interview to The Guardian, in which he announced that he was disappointed in Russian President Vladimir Putin.

Brittanya The Guardian publishes an interview with Igor Strelkov (Girkin), whom in the version with quotation marks he calls the Russian “valiant hero” or “military hero of Russia”. Interview Strelkova (Girkin) is actually completely devoted to how he "disillusioned with Putin."

The British edition presents to his readers Strelkov as "a former Russian security officer with a trimmed gray mustache and a penchant for reconstructions of military episodes stories"It is added that Strelkov (Girkin) with his squadron held Slavyansk in the 2014 year, and as a characteristic of Strelkov, literally the following is reported:" a radical nationalist. "

The article says that today, Strelkov, being in his Moscow office, “strokes a cat and criticizes Russian President Putin.”

From the statement Strelkov (Girkin), made in an interview The Guardian:

Putin and his entourage have recently taken steps that, I believe, will almost inevitably lead to the collapse of the system. We do not yet know how, and we do not know when, but we are sure that this will be a collapse. I think it will happen sooner rather than later.

According to Strelkov, Russia must occupy all those lands on which ethnic Russians live. At the same time, as he writes The Guardian, Strelkov (Girkin) calls Ukrainians Russians who speak a different dialect.

Strelkov complains that Putin stopped after solving the issue with the Crimea.

Shooters:

He crossed the Rubicon, but then suddenly and illogically stopped. He did not retreat, but did not go forward. It seems that he has no ideas, and seems to be frozen in anticipation of a miracle. In fact, it is stuck in the middle of the swamp.

Further, in an interview Strelkov talks about his command of the detachment in Slavyansk. According to him, all sentences in respect of the detained representatives of the enemy were issued on the basis of court hearings, in which there were prosecutors and lawyers. Strelkov said that each of his fighters knew that the commission of any crime would end in a lawsuit.

Shooters:

Every soldier knew that if he committed a crime, he would be punished as severely as the enemy, if not more severely. It helped a lot with discipline.

When Strelkov was asked whether the regular Russian army was in the Donbass, he stated that he was independent, and that during the operation in Slavyansk, he wanted Russian troops to enter Ukraine. Then the interviewee added that he did not want to comment on the absence or presence of the Russian army in the Donbas, leaving the right to think to the journalists themselves The Guardian.

At the end of the interview, Strelkov said that he was an inconvenient figure for the Russian authorities, but he immediately added that he and his associates are not going to take the revolutionary path to overthrow the authorities in Russia.

This interview to the British press shows that Strelkov (Girkin) decided to aim a blow at not only Russian, but also international publicity. And for the Western press, the real Nightingale Trill is to listen to how anyone, regardless of rank, status, or political views, criticizes the authorities of Russia and Vladimir Putin personally.

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[RUSS]

The Kremlin has something to criticize, but in this case Strelkov is not quite right.

[SRC P-15]

Strelkov (Girkin) gave an interview to The Guardian, in which he announced that he was disappointed in Russian President Vladimir Putin.

Sometimes silence costs more words ...

[just exp]

he, as he retired, began to do only harm; with his statements he constantly gives arguments for the West.
he didn’t see enough during the advertising of gum “sometimes it’s better to chew than talk”.

[jjj]

It seems that he sings along with Hodor. But that is, if only the conversation was real and recorded in the correct intonation. Otherwise, Western "journalism" does not consider free essays on a given topic shameful.

[avt]

Quote: just explo

how he retired became only harmful

This is when he, "retired" ??? The business itself is just beginning, in Slavyansk there were things for the future promotion

"A military hero of Russia."

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Quote: sever.56

And how upset Vladimir Putin was that Girkin was "disappointed" in him ...

And how now to live Putin? 1 ?? SAM Girkin / Strelkov dissatisfied!

Quote: Vladimirets

Yes, the most unpleasant moment. If you are a truth-teller and a "staff captain", say openly what you know or think, do not play political games, which you yourself vilify everywhere. Ugly

Everything is fine . He has nothing to say - they haven’t written yet, and in life he’s not a tribune, and he doesn’t pull on Lebed;

He crossed the Rubicon, but then suddenly and illogically stopped. He did not retreat, but did not go forward. It seems that he has no ideas, and seems to be frozen in anticipation of a miracle. In fact, it is stuck in the middle of the swamp.

It’s not even thoughts of the spinal cord, I’m not speaking for the brain! Wow, Putin didn’t follow Girkin / Strelkov’s order to send troops to the Donbass! Well done Belkovsky, he brought up the Guardian from his seat in London. Here at

"Radical nationalist."

"a former Russian security officer with a trimmed gray mustache and a penchant for reconstructing episodes of military history."

his own Herzen appeared in London, although the Belovek's habits are well Duke of / Clerk at Macle of Kent, and then you look and what kind of title for loyal, long-term service will be urged on by Tsar Michael, but for now this "father of Russian nationalism" will also do.

At the end of the interview, Strelkov said that he was an inconvenient figure for the Russian authorities, but he immediately added that he and his associates are not going to take the revolutionary path to overthrow the authorities in Russia.

And who will ask? He is not taken for that, as the ex field commander and associates surrounded

Survived. We can say that we found it, washed it, cleaned it of rubbish in the garbage dump, and he paints us with figs ..

for a riot, not a cat to iron, cats to iron a party there is without him. But let while stroking the cat, and at leisure, Mr. Reconstructor and sincerely, without scoffs and podkrykov, I propose to re-read the life of Rodzayevsky. So that he will be forced to, and he will think that he is so smart, do not go to the grandmother to reconstruct.

[Tambov Wolf]

And when members of the government talk all that is possible and impossible, then how is it? After that they either reduce the ruble to the nail, then they let go of the enemies, then the mess intensifies and everything is fine. But what can Strelkov say? And so everyone is silent. Let at least someone speaks. Yes, and he speaks mostly correctly. Let the rulers shut up better, otherwise all-living better, life becomes more fun, especially to friends, comrades, deputies and them.

[Mahmut]

This interview with the British press shows that Strelkov (Girkin) decided to tackle the publicity of not only Russian, but also international scale.

But what if the Russian democratic press announces a boycott for him. There is nothing to be done; one has to become a world-wide personality. Putin really surrounded himself with enemies of the people. What's wrong. The truth pours water on the mill of our enemies. So who is to blame that she is so bitter. Now we work 3 days a week. But this is before the election. Then they will generally say look for a job, and in compensation they will increase the retirement age. A spoon of honey in a tar barrel will not fix, as though many would not like it. You can sit on the couch and dream that everything will form by itself. Girkin is not one of those who live by prayers alone. But Maidan is not going to. This is an ideal oppositionist.

[Maksus]

And what kind of cones did Strelkov's office in Moscow form? Does this interest anyone?

[yastr]

Even if he is a thousand times right, this does not mean that for Western journalists he can throw mud at his country (yes, our government and Putin is also our country). This is very low. He plays into the hands of our "partners" (even with the best intentions), and the one who plays into the hands of our "partners" is my "partner". The mind does not fit how an officer can do this. Publicity .. I wanted it. A nationalist for the feces.

[Aleksander]

Quote: Tambov Wolf

Yes, and he says mostly right.

Of course, right. And his detractors object to him essentially-Nothing!

[svetanik]

When was he silent? His mouth is not closed for 1,5 years. And he spoke so much that the mind is incomprehensible. He created a country of problems and talked to himself at The Hague.

[Ami du peuple]

Quote: svetanik

Created a country of problems

He does not care about the country. Own ambitions for the reenactor are much more important.

Quote: svetanik

and blabbed myself at The Hague

Girkin will not fall under the Hague tribunal. ! Civilizers "do not judge their servants.
What do you say, gyrkinoids? Provocateur and hidden enemy is your "white warrior". Although, how hidden is it? Today it is already an open enemy.

[Yuri from Volgograd]

Quote: Tambov Wolf

And when members of the government talk all that is possible and impossible, then how is it? After that they either reduce the ruble to the nail, then they let go of the enemies, then the mess intensifies and everything is fine. But what can Strelkov say? And so everyone is silent. Let at least someone speaks. Yes, and he speaks mostly correctly. Let the rulers shut up better, otherwise all-living better, life becomes more fun, especially to friends, comrades, deputies and them.

I perfectly understand Strelkov, or rather, I feel his indignation.
He fought for the idea, but he was essentially exchanged.
It’s not for us to blame him.

[svp67]

Quote: just explo

how he retired became only harmful

No, he was "departed", apparently even then they began to understand that his ambitions did not quite coincide with his capabilities.

[weksha50]

Quote: svp67

No, he was "departed", apparently even then they began to understand that his ambitions do not quite match his capabilities.

Um ... Even then it seemed to me that his ambitions and what was planned by our leaders did not coincide ... This is - most likely ...

Well, these jerks of his, either to the nationality or to the monarchy, did not appeal to politicians or oligarchs ...

And so, in essence ... Passionary-revolutionary-idealist ... All in the grip of his ideas, but-not realities ...

By and large, he fulfilled his task ... He muddied the water and stirred up ... And now - the wagering card ...

[Homo]

Quote: just explo

he, as he retired, began to do only harm; with his statements he constantly gives arguments for the West.
he didn’t see enough during the advertising of gum “sometimes it’s better to chew than talk”.

And the casket just opened - they were not allowed to the trough. Offended and found with whose hands to feed.

[potroshenko]

Quote: Homo

And the casket just opened - they were not allowed to the trough. Offended and found with whose hands to feed.

I think he really does not do all this because of money, he is ideological. No one has any proof that he once sold for a ruble or a cent. But in the right direction or wrong, people will choose at the elections. The stronger the support of the people will be, the more "political scientists", "experts", "bloggers" working for the money of the United Russia will be fooled by him.

[Dr. Sorge]

They said right. It is easiest for the "sofa experts" to solve the world peace :)

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: weksha50

Um ... Even then it seemed to me that his ambitions and what was planned by our leaders did not coincide ... This is - most likely ...
Well, these jerks of his, either to the nationality or to the monarchy, did not appeal to politicians or oligarchs ...
And so, in essence ... Passionary-revolutionary-idealist ... All in the grip of his ideas, but-not realities ...
By and large, he fulfilled his task ... He muddied the water and stirred up ... And now - the wagering card ...

Quote: Homo

And the casket just opened - they were not allowed to the trough. Offended and found with whose hands to feed.

No, I don’t think that everything is so simple.
If you look at it from the other side, then all the currently existing "non-systemic opposition" smells bad, has a pale appearance and almost complete rejection by the people. Who is there in the "forces": - Kasyanov? Navalny? Ryzhkov? Everyone is fucked up)))
And here!
It seems like the critical sounds are expressed in opposition to the current government and there is a certain popularity, a person is publicly recognizable. Maybe this is just one of the elements of the launched project for the controlled rearing of the new opposition leader? It is not necessary that it is controlled by the West and I fully admit that everything is going as it should, "everything is tip-top" and the wolves are safe and the sheep are fed)))
After all, whatever one may say, but what kind of opposition is needed for the political balance, this is what it is being formed, opposite to the grant-eating one.
As an option...

[Plato]

And with you everything is simple to crystal clear - if a person speaks out against the policy of destroying the country, then you immediately write down to the agents of the "world behind the scenes", When Girkin returned to Russia he adhered and still adheres to upholding state interests. And with all his deeds and statements he was, and probably still is, those who are ready to help Putin in the revival of our State. But the GDP does not react in any way to the groan of the people. After all, not only Strelkov, but also many in the common people see how our country is literally being destroyed. And not to criticize the authorities and not to propose to change for the better, this will happen what happened to many states. Including from the USSR.

[sir_obs]

It reminds me of children setting fire to dried grass. In a summer cottage. We lit and ran away. And the adults have to extinguish, which Jacob has something to do.

[tomket]

Quote: sir_obs

It reminds me of children setting fire to dried grass. In a summer cottage. We lit and ran away. And the adults have to extinguish, which Jacob has something to do.

But didn’t it all start from Crimea? But was not Maidan to the Crimea? And then what does Strelkov have to do with it? Much more serious uncles set the fire on fire. And Strelkov is just a part of the people who showed cookies to big uncles.

[Bayonet]

Quote: just explo

as he retired, he began to bring only harm,

Which is to be expected. He never supported those who extolled the "commander Igor Ivanovich" here. Now the pendulum has gone the other way, it's just ridiculous to read.

[korvin1976]

I totally agree.
Shooters like Chapaev, maybe a good tactician, but ......
Chapaev was smart enough at the time to understand that for higher matters, he lacked intelligence and education.
In this case, something was missing.

For Strelkov, I always had, from his very first appearance, the definition of Eser.

[carp]

Strelkov was disappointed in Putin, and Putin in Strelkov ... 1: 1)))

[Homo]

Quote: carpag

Strelkov was disappointed in Putin, and Putin in Strelkov ... 1: 1)))

Do you think Putin cares about Strelkov?

[Mahmut]

Judging by Strelkov’s friendly boycott from the Russian media, Putin has a concern for Strelkov.

[vanavatny]

and what his mighty deeds of the last time should unanimously cover the media, who is he at all? VO has whole specialists-biographers on it, and the rest of Russia was told about him when he did something, and now what? criticizes the authorities? and who does not criticize her? there is zyuganov which year ... so even though the team boasts of the program, and of the shooters? Putin is wrong, corruption, etc., and sho? we are in the know

[tomket]

Quote: vanavate

Putin is wrong, corruption, etc., and sho? we are in the know

Well, it turns out that Strelkov at least does something, at least keeps the power in good shape, and you can only talk - and sho?

[Ami du peuple]

Quote: tomket

at least the power in tone keeps

What does he hold power in ?! Yes, the authorities do not give a damn about Girkin, to say the least. This is not his power in good shape, but his power in his anus.

[tomket]

Quote: Ami du peuple

Yes, the authorities do not give a damn about Girkin, to say the least.

And because he is not allowed anywhere? Somehow contradict the prevailing reality.

[the lord]

The work of his movement "Novorossiya", for example, could be covered, but they are silent,

[Plato]

Shooters are a very smart person. This is undeniable. But he really has little opportunity to do something. At least he translates thoughts and ideas into the people, and what are you doing in this direction? Just know that something like you know ...

[potroshenko]

Quote: Homo

Do you think Putin cares about Strelkov?

Negative statements about a person all the same raise the recognition of this person, it is customary to remain silent about Strelkov, as if he were not. If they begin to criticize him, then disputes will begin, including in broadcasts on central TVs, which will raise his rating in any case.

[samuil60]

Yes, what to talk about !?

[Homo]

Quote: СРЦ П-15

Sometimes silence costs more words ...

Sometimes someone who was interviewed means more than the interview itself.

[Baloo]

The article says that today, Strelkov, being in his Moscow office, “strokes a cat and criticizes Russian President Putin.”

I’m still waiting for Girkin to tell in detail about the service of the Orthodox oligarch Malofeev and about his former curator, the former KGB general, whose son is a major of the FSA Armed Forces. Or is it fakes and trolling?

[GSH-18]

We don’t know how, and we don’t know when, but we are sure that it will be a collapse.

If only these were really his words, then he freaked out from the heart!

[ASG7]

But Girkin was the spearhead of sowing enmity between the Ukrainian authorities (whether it’s worse, unfair ...) and the Russians in Ukraine, with the aim of drawing Russia into the conflict. So to whom was he profitable and who is he? There is nothing more to add.

[volot-voin]

Quote: RUSS

The Kremlin has something to criticize, but in this case Strelkov is not quite right

Time will tell who is right.
The man did a lot of things for the Russian world (his small detachment restrained the army, which gave Donetsk time to prepare well for the defense), and has much more right to judge than couch heroes. In many respects I share his ideas in a single Russian world, and I was upset to tears when we were stopped after a victory along the same Debaltseve.

[Dam]

I’m embarrassed to ask, what is the name of the person who left the battlefield without an order? And contrary to the order? Just without reference to a specific person. And what is the name of the person who patriot conspired with the opposition paid by the enemy, am I talking about Navalny? But what about the person interviewing the enemy? Name yourself who he is.

[Greenwood]

Quote: Damm

without an order

Who should give orders in this case?

Quote: Damm

But what about the person interviewing the enemy?

Since when did an interview for a foreign newspaper become a synonym for betrayal ?!

Quote: Damm

the enemy

Is Guardian Newspaper an Enemy? What about BBC News? What about the Times? Around the enemies are shorter.

[Dam]

All the Anglo-Saxon publications you have listed are participating in the information war with us, so that without illusions, they are enemies. The leadership of the DPR gave orders to him at that time, and he obeyed them up to that point in Slavyansk, so that too was somehow not the topic of you.

[Cat man null]

Quote: Greenwood

Is Guardian Newspaper an Enemy? What about BBC News? What about the Times?

- no, sculpted druzya ... better only Rain

Quote: Greenwood

Since when did an interview for a foreign newspaper become a synonym for betrayal ?!

- well, not betrayal, probably .. although not the best, IMHO, act
- the article has an answer, read to the end

This interview with the British press shows that Strelkov (Girkin) decided to tackle the publicity of not only Russian, but also international scale. And for the Western press, the real nightingale trill is to listen to how anyone, regardless of rank, status and political views, criticizes the Russian authorities and personally Vladimir Putin

[RUSS]

Quote: Cat Man Null

better only rain

Watch the rain?

[Cat man null]

Quote: RUSS

Quote: Cat Man Null

better only rain

Watch the rain?

But you must?

[RUSS]

Quote: Cat Man Null

But you must?

Well, you previously concluded that-

Quote: Cat Man Null

- no, sculpted druzya ... better only Rain

What do you know about "Rain" and how?

[Cat man null]

Quote: RUSS

Quote: Cat Man Null

But you must?

Well, you previously concluded that-

Quote: Cat Man Null

- no, sculpted druzya ... better only Rain

What do you know about "Rain" and how?

- For what purpose are you interested in, I'm sorry?
- "from where" - so I paid for the Internet, right up to the end of summer. That's where I know

[Tambov Wolf]

The person who gives the interview to the enemy is you who, not about our Guarantor, is talking to him every week or about his liberal advisers? What then will you call him?

[Homo]

Quote: Tambov Wolf

the person who gives the interview to the enemy is you about whom, not about our Guarantor, he pushes him to speak every week

Position obliges.

[Tines]

I’m embarrassed to ask, what are the names of government members who pursue an enemy policy incompatible with the life of their own country, as well as gas, coal and nuclear fuel supplying the geopolitical enemy? Without binding.

[Pilat2009]

Quote: Damm

who left the battlefield without an order?

If you are talking about Slavyansk, then the commander himself solves tactical problems based on stocks of people, equipment, ammunition, and conditions. Moreover, don’t trust the DNR / LNR leadership

[Dam]

And with objectivity, everything is in order with us. But letting in overseas, almost half think, is already good

[oldseaman1957]

Strelkov (Girkin) gave an interview

“Who admires,” calls Strelkov, they want to cheat, “Girkin.” The cleverest and brave man worrying about Russia. That's just the trouble, ”he was defeated in a battle with court strategists. I respected him and RESPECT. Good luck, Igor Ivanovich!

[Thinker]

What could they say to Strelkov in Moscow — where he was called to leave his service and began to live in Moscow? —He is a man who thoroughly knows and understands the situation and experienced in the skin what was and is really on Donbass. You can’t listen to his words but to draw conclusions 100 percent like him, too, there are many options for the development of events. He was alarmed by the words that Russia is following the path of Yugoslavia and Milosevic ... very guarded ... While the Americans have landed in Finland, which is already really annoying !!!

[Kibalchish]

Bednov, Ishchenko, Mozgovoy and Dremov refused to go out and were killed by PMC Wagner. Strelkov survived. And well done.

There are much more questions for Putin.

[Cat man null]

Quote: Kibalchish

Bednov, Ishchenko, Mozgovoy and Dremov refused to go out and were killed by "PMC Wagner"

- unsubstantiated statement there is trepidation (at least)
- you have no evidence. Someone there guesses for evidence do not accept
- or is there evidence?

Quote: Kibalchish

There are much more questions to Putin

- I doubt that Putin will agree to answer your questions
- I would, for example - definitely would not agree

Igor, you consider yourself a journalist like .. and such blunders in the comments .. and not ashamed?

[Thinker]

- unproven statement is trepidation (at least)
- you have no evidence. Someone there guesses for evidence do not accept
- or is there evidence? belay
Do you have a statement that this is trembling or is there evidence to the contrary?

[Cat man null]

Quote: Denker

Do you have a statement that this is trembling or is there evidence to the contrary?

- And you, too, Kibalchish?
- you see .. the original statement (at least controversial) did not come from me. Therefore, to prove that it is "left" I, as it were, is not obliged
- if something unobvious I affirm - I, as a rule, provide evidence. Just by the rules of good manners, you know

[Thinker]

How is it not obliged? -This is the most notorious little things here to everyone and everyone you send with the eternal question of the first-grader of the half-educated person, where is the evidence and what is the ento for the subject, etc. And you have sent me the same questions more than once, the duck can send me once ? -Or just to use a questionnaire for you (candidates for wise guys are not welcome)

[Cat man null]

Quote: Denker

Such are the most notorious little things here to everyone and all send with the eternal question of the first-grader of the half-educated, where is the evidence

Mdya ... although I don’t understand all the words that you use, I understand, but, purely from the horse-text:

- apparently, I’m telling you something tail pinched inflicted some offense. My apologies if so
- the obligation to prove the claim rests with the approver. This is the alphabet

And, as it were, that's all

[Cat man null]

Quote: Cat Man Null

- the obligation to prove the claim rests with the claimant. This is the alphabet

- the campaign, already six comrades think otherwise
- cool, however
- Well, you minus there, minus .. too - like a poll

[Pilat2009]

Quote: Cat Man Null

- unproven statement is trepidation (at least)

One case is an accident. Several-system

[Cat man null]

Quote: Pilat2009

One case is an accident. Several-system

- without any doubt. A joke about "the balcony falls on you and you stay alive," you know?
- I just don’t understand one thing - why did you say that here?

[twviewer]

Quote: Kibalchish

There are much more questions for Putin.

-What will happen if oil does not rise in price? :)

[Corsair]

Quote: Denker

Despite the fact that Americans have landed in Finland, which is already really annoying !!!

Well, don’t you laugh like that))), the American landing force cannot really strain, the presence of all kinds of missile defense systems, other launchers and ships with axes and other missiles along our coasts is annoying, and let the American landing force even be 5 thousand there - this is on the scale of St. Petersburg, where you throw a cry and collect 100 thousand volunteers to spit once - well, nothing annoying.

[tomket]

Quote: oldseaman1957

calls Strelkov, they want to cheat - Girkin.

As I understand it, VO strives to outrun Strelkov by all means.

[Scoun]

Quote: RUSS

The Kremlin has something to criticize, but in this case Strelkov is not quite right.

Personally, from this interview, it seems to me that he is "pouring" the necessary water for a particularly concerned western man in the street.
Oh what! he scolds Putin himself for stopping and not acting as with the Crimea!
And now, other cities of 404 are asking questions of Zakharchenko and with other wishes which a year ago were not there.
There is still more than one winter and summer and more than one growing problem.

Quote: СРЦ П-15

Sometimes silence can be said more ...

+

He stated that he was independent and that during the operation in Slavyansk he wanted Russian troops to enter Ukraine. Then the interviewee added that does not want to comment on the absence or presence of the Russian army in the Donbassleaving the right to think to The Guardian reporters themselves.

[Thinker]

He speaks about this not for the first time, and not only today, but also when he fought in the Donbass. So, to say that he went silly at the landing party. He had such speeches for a long time and was waiting for help from Russia not only yesterday, he has been oppressing this line for a long time .

[Starover_Z]

Quote: RUSS

The Kremlin has something to criticize, but in this case Strelkov is not quite right.

According to Strelkov, Russia should occupy all the lands on which ethnic Russians live.

If you broadly interpret this expression, Russia will begin to seize all the land with the Russians ?!
And on what continent are there no ethnic Russians, huh ?!
Yes, even the Chinese will not do that if they are overpopulated!

[Kent0001]

Pereinach: Strelkov has no right to criticize the Kremlin. I think something like that.

[St Petrov]

PS Previously, Strelkov thought well done. But then .. And this interview is another of many. And the pictures with prosvirin soratnegom dumka?)

Putin and his entourage have recently taken steps that, I believe, will almost inevitably lead to the collapse of the system. We do not yet know how, and we do not know when, but we are sure that this will be a collapse. I think it will happen sooner rather than later.

and then it doused. he went to the censor, read another Ukrainian blogger about the fall of the Kremlin and the regime


Shatters what can I say.

[Thinker]

They hanged Vysotsky, why? -Of course, he could not discuss claims with foreign journalists because he would get 15 or go to permanent residence in France, you are not comparing something. THAT and this time ...

[Greenwood]

And who has it?

[Kibalchish]

Quote: Kent0001

Pereinach: Strelkov has no right to criticize the Kremlin. I think something like that.

Every citizen of the Russian Federation has the right to criticize Putin and the Kremlin. Especially in the light of the Minsk betrayal for the Donbass and the second coming of Kudrin for the Russians.

[St Petrov]

so everyone writes about Kudrin as if in his first coming all were barely alive

the economic bloc of military review is indignant. As long as the Kremlin will make decisions without reading the comments of economists and without putting a "+"

Indeed, if it were not for these guys from the forum, the Russian Federation would have plunged into crisis for a long time, and the fact that the economy has not been torn to shreds so far is only thanks to commentators at the HE, and not due to the action of the economic bloc of the government of the Russian Federation, such as Medvedev, Siluanov and Naebulin

PS is ready to catch cons from economists. So win!

[Kibalchish]

I would say how to make the Kremlin listen to the people ...

In general, there is one way. Trouble free.

[St Petrov]

please tell us about this method. Is there any point in this method to sharpen the pitchfork?

[Kibalchish]

If you are not a stupid person, then you will guess.

[St Petrov]

oh well that you guess about it. Let's cut the truth of the uterus already.

Suddenly you're talking about a rally!

[Cat man null]

Quote: s-t Petrov

please tell us about this method. Is there any point in this method to sharpen the pitchfork?

Quote: Kibalchish

If you are not a stupid person, then you will guess.

- I, I'm stupid !!!
- well, inject yourself already - what kind of "method" is there so .. magic?

[Cat man null]

Quote: s-t Petrov

Indeed, if it were not for these guys from the forum, the Russian Federation would have plunged into crisis for a long time, and the fact that the economy has not been torn to shreds so far is only thanks to commentators at the HE, and not due to the action of the economic bloc of the government of the Russian Federation, such as Medvedev, Siluanov and Naebulin

Join.

- everything works on its own
- If you disperse the government, it (all) will continue to work. Or even better

Quote: Kibalchish

I would say how to make the Kremlin listen to the people ...

In general, there is one way. Trouble free.

- and how?

[SPACE]

Quote: s-t Petrov

the economic bloc of military review is indignant. As long as the Kremlin will make decisions without reading the comments of economists and without putting a "+"

Yeah, they already sell oil and gas for rubles, abandoned the buck and isolated from the West, decided by universal vote to equate 10 dollars to one ruble, all nationalized including the CBRF, drove Nabibulin and Siluanov, printed many more rubles and distributed them to everyone 0% and now they will start to build factories in hundreds and appoint as managers exclusively smart and incorruptible people who very soon will import-substitute everything and, in an orderly manner, oblige the rest of the world to buy goods only from them. And most importantly, everyone has the salaries and pensions of ministers, the best free education and medicine, and the aircraft carrier with missiles like Elon Mask wants ... clowns
Adults, but they believe in fairy tales ...

[twviewer]

Quote: s-t Petrov

So win!

"you hold on there here. Have a good mood"

[St Petrov]

Jew slepakov very worried about the gentiles. Releases videos that the electorate likes.

The poor guy empathizes with us. Directly from TNT (an example of a cool, modern channel without a drop of propaganda)

I urge people who throw a video with him to turn on his head, look at the work of this character from a different angle, without smiles

[Kent0001]

Listen to the sofa marshal, in order to judge something, you need to understand the essence ..... but I see that this is not yours .... not yours at all ..... and so do not mind minus ...

[St Petrov]

to understand the essence of the TNT channel’s policy with its producer Slepakov? thank.

As the essence of this I do not like. Such is the case, comrade sofa general of the army. And the jokes and primitive texts of his "masterpieces", like the comediclab, do not catch at all

Although people hawala, it’s fashionable and you don’t need to strain especially - that’s the whole point.

And then there are such hot topics. A win-win option.

TNT - "Rain" without politics. Although there are enough politics, everything is through the prism of "banter" and "jokes". I think the financing of the TV channel, if you sort it out on the shelves, there will also surface a lot of interesting things.

[St Petrov]

I realized that you are not on this comment. But late)

[Skifotavr]

There was one interesting article that said that this “radical nationalist” with a Jewish surname secretly surrendered Slavyansk himself without any reason.

[twviewer]

Quote: Skifotavr

There was one interesting article that said that this “radical nationalist” with a Jewish surname secretly surrendered Slavyansk himself without any reason.

they also write on the fence.

[Skifotavr]

Quote: twviewer

they also write on the fence.

Here is the fence: http://warfiles.ru/show-81950-boroday-strelkov-po-faktu-uzhe-voyuet-na-storone-p
rotivnika.html As they say, by what I bought - by that I sold.

[Lt. Air Force stock]

Quote: RUSS

The Kremlin has something to criticize, but in this case Strelkov is not quite right.

From his point of view, large casualties among Donbass militias are justified only if he joins Russia (he was at the forefront and saw people die in the Donbass). But the accession did not happen, moreover, it seems recently Peskov said that Russia sees the Donbass as part of Ukraine.
Russia gave Donbass a reason to hope for accession when it annexed Crimea, raised the masses, but nothing happened.
From the point of view of Girkin, people in the Donbass died for nothing. He fought there for nothing ...

[code54]

I think they fought for their homes, and not for joining Russia in the first place! Excuse me, Strelkov, has matured, finds time to play with pussies, gives interviews to foreign publications, and almost puts himself on a par with Putin?

[Lt. Air Force stock]

Quote: code54

Excuse me, Strelkov, has matured, finds time to play with pussies, gives interviews to foreign publications, and almost puts himself on a par with Putin?

Perhaps he believes that he will betray the memory of those who died in the Donbass, if he is silent about what he is thinking about. In this case, there are no authorities for him.
It seems to me that he is not one of those who will blindly follow orders if they disagree with his idea of ​​honor and justice. And he thinks that Donbass was "thrown".

Quote: code54

I think they fought for their homes, and not for joining Russia in the first place!

And what is the result? Peskov said that Russia sees the Donbass as part of Ukraine, that the militias will not be able to stay alert for decades. Sooner or later, the militia will be dissolved, and Ukraine is waiting for this.
Donbass was lucky that due to the coup in Kiev there was confusion and the collapse of the Ukrainian army, thanks to this it was possible to quickly organize a militia in the Donbass.
The second time this will not work. The United States will strengthen the Ukrainian army over time, in Kiev, there will also be no hitches.
The fact of the matter is that the events of 2014 were unique. The second time it may not work out.
The inclusion of Donbass in Russia would be 100% guaranteed, and the price of all sorts of agreements to amend the constitution in order to expand the powers of the subjects sometimes cost nothing.

[Thunderbolt]

Quote: code54

! Sorry Strelkov, has matured, play with pussies

This Maine Coon has a nickname, by the way. His name is Bruise.

[weksha50]

Quote: Lt. air force reserve

From the point of view of Girkin, people in the Donbass died for nothing. He fought there for nothing ...

Most likely, it is ... And there is no need to make a demon-monster-traitor out of him ... I would not want to get into his position ...

[Homo]

Quote: RUSS

... but in this case Strelkov is not quite right.

Absolutely wrong!

[St Petrov]

This is democracy and freedom of speech. Have come.

Now reading as a character (a patriot recognized by everyone)) with our (Russian) passport, he argues with a foreign (ENGLISH) newspaper - predicting the collapse of the Russian state and criticizing the authorities with foreign readers - the people still argue whether this can be done or not.

From it, Palych, as we now have in Russia) It is possible and will not be anything for it.

You can hug the Nazi Prosvirin, talking about Ukrainian tanks on Red Square with delight, sitting in a Ukrainian studio - and how you will still shake hands in the midst of "patriots" - no, well, this is Strelkov himself, he can be friends with Prosvirin (although literally half a year ago he destroyed people with such ideas)

Prosvirin was also enthusiastic about the Maidan, but somehow he ended up next to the "patriots" who, together with the rifleman and the satellite pogrom (wow, the name of the magazine), are advocating for changes in the country

You can criticize the state’s military company in Syria - and predict collapse and defeat - and there’s nothing for it either

Not so cool. And what

[Lt. Air Force stock]

Quote: Homo

Absolutely wrong!

The man was at war, saw the mutilated bodies of militias, heard the heart-rending cry of wounded militias, in a word he saw the horrors of war. I saw what all sorts of punitive battalions with civilians in the Donbass are doing (remember how many photos where parents carry in their hands children who are 5-7 years old dead in blood). Naturally, he believes that ethnic Russians should be protected everywhere in Russia. And he openly declares this. If in 1990 someone said that the USSR would fall apart, they would look at him as if he were crazy, but it happened. Are you 100% sure that Russia will not fall apart like the USSR?
Perhaps not under Putin, but he is not eternal, he is already over 60 years old ...

[siberalt]

Two years ago Strelkova idolized, and now they are pouring mud. Somehow it's not quite decent. He didn’t play billiards in the Donbass, and he may have his own well-grounded claims to the position of Russia when the Russians were killed there.

[St Petrov]

two years ago there was no fat Natsik next to him. He was doing what he did great - the war. And now he is engaged in politics. Therefore, nothing surprising.

We have thanks to Putin, millions say for the Crimea - and then thousands spit on him because of Kudrin’s appointment a couple of years later. So she’s such a life)

A cho to us from a sofa. There is either a plus or a minus - to think is not always possible)

[NordUral]

I agree about the Kremlin, or rather about the entire top and middle. It is not at all the case to turn to "partners" again, here Strelkov is wrong.

[masiya]

What I was trying to say about the wound, so zaminusili .... forces no further verb truth ...

[PHANTOM-AS]

Quote: masiya

What I was trying to say about the wound, so zaminusili .... forces no further verb truth ...

But what can you say, let them say it themselves ..

[free]

or rather not at all right!

[dmi.pris1]

He was declared a boycott .. Well, yes, he is not from the government, not from St. Petersburg, not from the Kremlin .. He tried to help in Donbass, well, maybe "he did not consult, did not put the right people in the know." right. But we have a lot of people in power who are only engaged in boltology. The man expressed his point of view. And Putin expressed his point of view about the economic situation of the country, retelling an anecdote about the black and white stripes in life ..

[GSH-18]

Quote: RUSS

The Kremlin has something to criticize, but in this case Strelkov is not quite right.

More truly, it is absolutely not right.

[sever.56]

And how upset Vladimir Putin was that Girkin was "disappointed" in him ...
He does not sleep at night and cannot eat. Everyone thinks: - "Well, how can I return Girkin's favor, again he will like it" ???
For the fact that he did not refute the presence of our army in the Donbass, but proposed to think up magazine magazines, you can spit in his eyes. With such a provocative statement, he gives them the right to write what our units were there.

[Greenwood]

Quote: sever.56

And how upset Vladimir Putin was that Girkin was "disappointed" in him ...

Putin will be much more upset when, in addition to Girkin, most Russian citizens are disappointed in him. Not always, the country's population will be wearing pink glasses.

[Greenwood]

Judging by the cons, forever. Sorry.

[Thinker]

well, no need to be so sad, maybe they said that the thread is from themselves, as they say, but in this resource there is already a tough dictatorship, so to speak, if something is minus not childishly, and the topic "Putin is not right" is generally taboo, as if these rules This site did not spread to the scale of the country, apparently people here forgot that we have a rule of law and freedom of speech ...

[PHANTOM-AS]

Quote: Greenwood

Not always, the country's population will be wearing pink glasses.

Quote: Greenwood

Judging by the cons, forever. Sorry.

Do not despair, There are a lot of sensible and honest people in Russia

[Greenwood]

Yes, I already see. The pros outweigh the cons. So we will live.

[dmi.pris1]

You plus ..

Quote: Greenwood

Judging by the cons, forever. Sorry.

[just exp]

the country's population sees reality much better than grant-eaters who see everything in black.

[sever.56]

Quote: Greenwood

Putin will be much more upset when, in addition to Girkin, most Russian citizens are disappointed in him. Not always, the country's population will be wearing pink glasses.

Well, of course ... And we all have to wear "rose-colored glasses" by law. Failure to wear rose-colored glasses "is punishable by imprisonment for a term of five to seven years ...
Okstay ... Do not read the liberal press ... Soon they will write there that Putin loves "roast babies" for lunch and washed down this dish with the blood of virgins.
See the results of opinion polls, what is the rating of Putin.
Not everything is normal in our economy and social policy, but we don’t have to blame everything on him, although his share of guilt in this is: - It’s necessary for Benin’s mother to disperse the entire liberal economic bloc in the government!

[Greenwood]

Quote: sever.56

Do not read the liberal press ...

For many years I have not read the press at all.

Quote: sever.56

Soon they will write there that Putin loves "baby roast" for lunch and is washing it down with the blood of virgins.

There they can write whatever they want, this is their business.

Quote: sever.56

See the results of opinion polls, what is the rating of Putin.

I look, and is very saddened by this.

Quote: sever.56

but do not blame everything on him

Poor thing, he’s not to blame for anything. This boyars are bad.

Quote: sever.56

it’s necessary for Benin’s mother to disperse the entire liberal economic bloc in the government!

And Putin is pleased with the work of this very bloc, moreover, he appointed it himself. It turns out a logical paradox, a significant part of commentators (and, apparently, the whole population of Russia) blames the government of liberals, mediocre ministers and corrupt bureaucrats, but continues to slavishly squat before Putin, who was pulled out of oblivion by those same liberals. And who continues to surround himself with people of this kind. And you say "overclock".

[Scoun]

Quote: Greenwood

But Putin is pleased with the work of this very bloc; moreover, he himself appointed it. It turns out a logical paradox,

Appointing appointed and changing slowly changes, and even within the framework of a small enterprise, try to remove five people at a stroke, put in their place five new ones, who do not know the intricacies of your production ... and here at once it will not be possible to remove even the clumsy "gears" without serious failures, it is necessary to raise personnel and replace them sequentially. IMHA.

[Vitaly72]

Surnames Kudrin, Perdyukov, Chubais _ They don’t tell you anything? changes pancake slowly

[Cat man null]

Quote: Vitaliy72

Surnames Kudrin ... - They don’t tell you anything?

And what is wrong with Kudrin?

- Kudrin wrote a "program" and proposed it to the GDP
- the "program" clearly provides for the withdrawal of the Russian Federation from its current positions (up to the limit, to the "surrender of Crimea", gee )
- to which Kudrin was mildly indicated (GDP) that "Russia was not the first to start the conflict, that it has a thousand-year history and it will not trade its sovereignty"

If you understand even a little what this means for Kudrin, you will immediately calm down about "Kudrin is in power."

If you don’t understand this, I’ll explain: Kudrin was poked into the manure, and his "program" will not be implemented. From the word "never".

Quote: Vitaliy72

changes pancake slowly

- exactly

[PHANTOM-AS]

but I’m very interested, is this our citizen who fought for Putin?

[Vitaly72]

Where is the economy and where is social policy? What are you talking about ?

[Skifotavr]

Quote: Greenwood

Quote: sever.56

And how upset Vladimir Putin was that Girkin was "disappointed" in him ...

Putin will be much more upset when, in addition to Girkin, most Russian citizens are disappointed in him. Not always, the country's population will be wearing pink glasses.

Girkin stars beautifully, but what did he achieve? Weak hero for the role of leader of a kosher coup against Putin. Clown and only.

[Vitaly72]

I would say with a pink point

[Vladimirets]

Quote: sever.56

but he suggested thinking through magazine magazines, you can spit in his eyes. With such a provocative statement, he gives them the right to write what our units were there.

Yes, the most unpleasant moment. If you are a truth-teller and a "staff captain", say openly what you know or think, do not play political games, which you yourself vilify everywhere. Ugly.

[tomket]

Quote: sever.56

For the fact that he did not refute the presence of our army in the Donbass, but proposed to think up magazine magazines, you can spit in his eyes.

You were not taught in childhood that spitting is not cultural?

[Stirbjorn]

Quote: tomket

You were not taught in childhood that spitting is not cultural?

so this is the internet, here are all the heroes - Office ONE Moscow st. Nikoloyamskaya d. 49 p. 2, you can go there and try to spit if the gut is not thin

[reservist]

Quote: sever.56

For the fact that he did not refute the presence of our army in the Donbass, but proposed to think up magazine magazines, you can spit in his eyes. T

Well, how would it be about "the level of participation of the Russian authorities", and not about the presence of the Russian army ...

Strelkov himself declined to comment on the level of Russian official participation, saying only that “you may draw your own conclusions”.

imho, with any answer Strelkova in the Guardian would give their own comment

There is overwhelming evidence of Russian financial and military support for the rebels as well as Russian regular troops entering the conflict at key moments, and some rebel sources have claimed that the withdrawal of the unpredictable Strelkov was one of the preconditions set by the Kremlin ahead of sending troops covertly to inflict a crushing defeat on the Ukrainians during the battle of Ilovaysk.

www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jun/05/russias-valiant-hero-in-ukraine-turns-his-

fire-on-vladimir-putin

[st25310]

Perhaps Strelkov does not see the "picture" as a whole ...

[tomket]

Quote: st25310

Perhaps Strelkov does not see the "picture" as a whole ...

Well, if only Satan or aliens rule the world, then the picture is really different from the one that the shooters and all of us see.

[Lieutenant Izhe]

Perhaps Strelkov does not see the "picture" as a whole ...

and Putin sees the "big picture"?
and Gorbachev, Yelitsin "saw the picture" - in pieces ??
PS Well, and what did Putin achieve by his companionship in Ukraine, Belarus, Syria - (in it the Americans will still lag behind "pisses on water"), and the internal problems of Russia's stagnating oligarchic economy?

[Lieutenant Izhe]

Local site "loyal putins" resemble these characters ...
PS I am not FOR: Strelkova, Zyuganov, Kasparova ...
But Putin's "tyagomotina" (companionship) IN ALL SPHERES has already - GOT IT!

[Dam]

Yes, he sees, he just plays the wrong side. I have a lot of questions:
1 How and when did the volunteer re-enactor become an FSB colonel? (my terms do not add up in my head).
2 Who appointed this character as commander in chief?
3 What specifically, in addition to a superbly organized retreat, did the Commander-in-Chief Strelkov become famous?
4 The operation in Slavyansk to seize power was spontaneous or prepared (. For me, a provocation, a provocation).
5 Why abruptly left the DNI at the peak of popularity?
6 How quickly did he turn to the Belolentochnikov and the Nazis?
Though zaminusuyte completely, but Mr. Strelkov, someone skillfully played bookmark.

[WIN969]

Such as a shooter, more dangerous than 5 columns. Because of his idiotic ideas, Lenin has already destroyed our country, and now this clown is torn in his footsteps.

[Greenwood]

Quote: WIN969

already destroyed our country

And built a superpower. Which did not worship anyone, and which did not strive "to join the Western economy on the sidelines."

Quote: WIN969

now this clown is torn in his footsteps.

Before the clowns in the Ministry of Finance, the Ministry of Economic Development and another 100500 ministries to Girkin as far as the moon.

[Vladimirets]

Quote: Greenwood

And he built a superpower.

Lenin did not build anything, it is not known where the NEP would lead us.

[Greenwood]

The first steps to industrialize the country were already taken under Lenin.

[Vladimirets]

Quote: Greenwood

The first steps to industrialize the country were already taken under Lenin.

What are the steps? Are you talking about GOELRO? Lenin would never have carried out industrialization at the pace that Stalin did, and even he did not have time for war. Lenin made the USSR petty-bourgeois in essence, with some branches in the hands of the state. Therefore, under Lenin, the USSR was far from a superpower.

[Greenwood]

Quote: Vladimirets

Therefore, under Lenin, the USSR was far from a superpower.

Under Lenin, the foundations of the system were laid. It is clear that in a couple of years after the civil war you can’t rebuild the country.

[Vladimirets]

Quote: Greenwood

Under Lenin, the foundations of the system were laid.

Why jump if you wrote above:

Quote: Greenwood

built a superpower

So built or was going to build?

[Greenwood]

Ok, I probably didn’t put it right. He would have built it if he had not died. But other people continued his work, that's all.

[Gardamir]

Therefore, under Lenin, the USSR was no far superpower

I am for an adequate discussion. October 1917-January 1924 plus civil war, plus the last year Lenin was sick. What do you want from him? If the great Putin himself can not cope with partners. Even Kudrin without asking Putin leaked to the Kremlin. And Putin is still fighting for the victory of liberalism around the world.

[Vladimirets]

Quote: Gardamir

I am for an adequate discussion.

Well, if you are for an adequate discussion, then what’s the next thing if the conversation is about Lenin?

Quote: Gardamir

If the great Putin himself can not cope with partners. Even Kudrin without asking Putin leaked to the Kremlin. And Putin is still fighting for the victory of liberalism around the world.

Quote: Gardamir

October 1917-January 1924 plus civil war, plus the last year Lenin was sick. What do you want from him?

I? I don't want anything, I just wrote that contrary to the opinion of the comrade, the epithet "superpower" in relation to the USSR under Lenin was still very far away.

[Gardamir]

then what’s the next thing if the conversation is about Lenin?

Do you read through a word? I repeat how much Lenin could have done in six years if half of them were war? Tell me, what war (sanctions) were in Russia in 2013, what prevents the current ones from raising the country? As long as they only succeeded on television.

[UralMan]

break ... hot finnish guys ....
are you all discussing here?
article about Strelkov
you rinse Genghis Khan or the Macedonian bone

[Dam]

Do not confuse Lenin and Stalin. For superpower Joseph Vissarionovich thanks need to be said

[tomket]

Quote: WIN969

. Because of his idiotic ideas, Lenin has already destroyed our country, and now this clown is torn in his footsteps.

The country was destroyed by Nicholas II. Lenin was more likely a grave digger, and even then, how to say it. Indeed, before Lenin, Kerinsky worked.

[Gardamir]

The country was destroyed by Nicholas II. Lenin was more likely a grave digger, and even then, how to say it. Indeed, before Lenin, Kerinsky worked.

Cool! Someday in a hundred years they will say. The country collapsed Mikhail Gorbachev. Putin was more likely a grave digger, and then how to say it. Indeed, before Putin, Yeltsin worked. Although Gorbachev-Yeltsin-Putin is doing something a little wrong here.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: WIN969

Because of his idiotic ideas, Lenin has already destroyed our country.

can you give more details?!

[Pulya]

He crossed the Rubicon, but then suddenly and illogically stopped. He did not retreat, but did not go forward. It seems that he has no ideas, and seems to be frozen in anticipation of a miracle. In fact, it is stuck in the middle of the swamp.
The swamp is our government.

[Berkut24]

I may not express myself very nicely, but ... The man took advantage of the situation and at the moment when the authorities in Ukraine were simply lying on Khreshchatyk, with the help of his Russian friends, he raised a nimble in a particular region. Initially, he did not have authority there. He was unable to come to an agreement with the local "elite". as a commander ... And there was no army, there were scattered detachments, which he commanded only nominally. There were few locals in them. In fact, the locals were generally in a state of confusion about the fact that the guys came from outside and began to defend them.
What is the result. Militias who came from Russia were killed quite a few. Local art from crumble is also not weak. They burned houses, the enterprises basically either do not work, or are destroyed as such. Companions with Strelkov did not stay so long - either fit into local authorities, or returned to Russia and did not really contact him.
The good news is that having got rid of the crazy "Varangians" from Russia, the local guys somehow nevertheless co-organized and even won back quite well. And the scope of these battles was not at all "Slavic". True, all this happened after, with Strelkov's provocation, the Donetsk residents washed themselves with blood under the shelling of dill. And they went to take revenge.
For Donbass Strelkov and his comrades remained a stranger. He has no place in the Donbass. For Moscow, this is generally a self-sustaining grenade, which cannot be included in any strategy or tactics of relations with Ukraine or the West.
So what was the plan, for what? For the sake of gaining fame due to the bloody massacre that has occurred, imposingly scratching a cat stretched out on a table in a cozy cabinet in Moscow, prudently capitalize everything that happened in political dividends?

[Kathernik]

- When the war was in Slavyansk, you probably watched the news every hour, and Strelkov was a hero for you, but a couple of years have passed, and you can already mix it with dirt. You quickly forgot his merits. But I am not surprised. Just this story teaches .....

[Berkut24]

When Strelkov was in Slavyansk, I read "Russian Spring". However, when I began to read other sources, questions began to arise. First, no matter how he commanded, the local men were in no hurry to fight under his wing. At first it was fun for them from the war, and when they began to poke around in residential areas, they realized that these guys would not save them in any way. By the way, whoever somehow spoke out in support of the Strelkovites in a month was cruelly regretted about it. The showdown with them and their families was bloody. But Strelkov was busy with his own business, gave interviews, and he somehow did not notice that after him the massacre took place in the city. Others did it for him.
And yes, it was strange to watch how he organizes the defense of Donetsk while the local Donetsk had their own supplies and their own detachments. It must be understood that the internal relations of oligarchs-brothers-militia-miners developed in the region long before it. It has its own history of the region and its mentality. The guys didn’t need a war; they were ready to agree among themselves. And here Strelkov with militias and the crazy idea of ​​a war for the Russian world. The fighting destroys the infrastructure of the city - water, gas, sewer, electricity. Financial flows are disrupted, trade is closed, food and medicine are running out. Strelkov thought about the price that the Donetsk team had to pay for his ideas? Donetsk residents, not Strelkov! Pay attention how much more competently everything went in Lugansk. There almost everything was done not by reckless visitors, but by local peasants. Now the city is not destroyed and the infrastructure is in order.
Yes, Donetsk has survived, but completely different people have to feed, treat people and restore infrastructure. They are locals, and they turn on their heads before escalating the war again. They live there, they have their own, with their local government structure. They, and not Strelkov, look people in the eye. And trust in them, no matter what, I have much more than a dashing idealist who is ready to overwhelm an entire region for his idea.
How then should the Russian authorities relate to him. Here Zakharchenko - with all his commercial troubles, he is real power in the Donbass. He was able to negotiate with everyone, including Moscow. Yes, it’s tough, someone was kicked out, who didn’t understand or decided to play his personal war - that is already gone. I do not approve. But excuse me - in a mess, power can only be so tough, and sometimes cruel. Remember how the Bolsheviks brought order to the country. But there is a result. Man has nowhere to go - he is there at home. But Strelkov contemplated, quarreled (why did the locals have to obey him?), Threw him into Moscow to create his own political business.
And the last one. While Strelkov was in the Donbass, the situation was not clear, and the information was one-sided. And now I understand that he is not a commander in seven foreheads. It was then a mess in the Ukrainian army. Now he would not have lasted a day. And Zakharchenko will hold out, because he managed (and not only with God's help) to build a system. Well organized, trained and wealthy. For between a regional manager and a stupid ideological lieutenant with an eternal checker, it’s not just a difference, but an abyss. Now, let Strelkov think about why Zakharchenko received help, and Strelkov, with his heroism, was put in the wheel with sticks in the wheel of everyone - both in place and in Russia. War does not exist separately from real life.

[twviewer]

Quote: Berkut24

Now, let Strelkov think about why Zakharchenko received help, and Strelkov, with his heroism, was put in the wheel with sticks in the wheel of everyone - both in place and in Russia.

So the bandits interfered with the agreement, it’s good that he was still alive, not everyone was so lucky. Only here is something you are silent about the referendum in Novorossiysk, and yet there the people clearly spoke out what he wants.

[Cat man null]

Quote: twviewer

Novorossky referendum ... there the people clearly spoke out what he wants

- this referendum was held despite the "urgent requests" from the Government of the Russian Federation and, EMNIP, VVP to postpone its holding personally
- such a hasty referendum led the Russian leadership to fulfill the Crimean scenario in Novorossia
- the leadership of the Russian Federation, it seems, did not plan such an option (and it’s ready for it, technically at least, it wasn’t)
- which allows us to consider the holding of this referendum a provocation in order to draw the Russian Federation into open databases with Ukraine. In the role of the undoubted aggressor, by the way (this is not Crimea for you)

Something like this. Do you want confirmation of what was said - "I have it"

[twviewer]

Quote: Cat Man Null

Something like this. You want confirmation

all right. the only question remains: why?

[Cat man null]

Quote: twviewer

the only question is: why?

- why the people voted that way - it is clear ... "freebie, sir" - this is not to write a lot of words
- why they did not postpone the referendum, and even asked in the Russian Federation - it was beneficial for someone to put the Russian leadership in a certain (very uncomfortable) position
- to whom - yes, I have no idea. From striped partners to one of the Russian (or Ukrainian) oligarchs
- the list, of course, is not exhaustive; various combinations are also possible .. um .. interested parties

All IMHO, essno

[twviewer]

Quote: Cat Man Null

All IMHO, essno

So why were the Russian authorities unprepared and for them the referendum became a provocation?
and how is Crimea different from Novorossiya? not "Russian-world"?
so maybe it was not worth while talking about it on TV, and what about 200 billion invested in Ukraine, if we didn’t need ports, factories, or people anyway? and even about "let them try to shoot at their own people" when we stand behind them, I am completely silent: they have been shooting for 2 years, so what? In general, no one is to blame for anything, and the people are just a freeloader, you have a funny approach.

[Cat man null]

Quote: twviewer

so why were the Russian authorities unprepared and for them the referendum became a provocation?

- and how do I know? On the reaction - a request to postpone the referendum "for later" and a hasty organization of negotiations with the junta (with the participation of Europeans) - they were not ready. In fact, everything indicates a lack of readiness for a military solution

Quote: twviewer

and how is Crimea different from Novorossiya? not "Russian-world"?

- he is not so "Russian", there are few Ukrainians there. Are many of the "voters" fighting for freedom now? Oh so and so ...
- There were no Russian troops in Novorossia initially. And it could not be. In Crimea - we were, we played on this. Like - the people decided everything, and the troops stood nearby

Quote: twviewer

so maybe it wasn’t worth talking about it on TV, and what with 200 billion invested in Ukraine, if we still did not need ports, plants or people?

- maybe not worth it

Quote: twviewer

and even about "let them try to shoot at their people" when we stand behind them, I am completely silent

- this applied to Crimea. Dates compare, once what happened - you will understand everything
- And in the Crimea they did it. I repeat, in Novorossiya, they hoped to the last to get around the world. As a result, a referendum (and the next day - an appeal about joining the Russian Federation) killed this idea (and) .. just completely

Quote: twviewer

in general, no one is to blame

- why? He said three times already - it was necessary to postpone the referendum and conduct conversations. This is not done, who is known. Sapienti sat

Quote: twviewer

and the people are just a freeloader

- and the people never decide anything
- the people were explained that "if you vote, it will be like in the Crimea." It's just that simple and easy
- although to those who campaigned the people, in fact, no one promised anything like that
- Well, the people were led ..

Quote: twviewer

you have a funny approach

- find the "holes" in the logic that I expound, and point to them
- arguments like epithet (funny, weird etc) don't roll

Something like that..

[twviewer]

Quote: Cat Man Null

- find the "holes" in the logic that I expound, and point to them
- arguments like epithet (funny, weird etc) don't roll

Something like that..

And why was the junta to recognize and negotiate with her? Is it possible to give Russian land to Europeans with the Americans, and even if there is a territorial dispute? and why then invested so much money in Ukraine if it is still not needed? :)

[Cat man null]

Quote: twviewer

And why was it ... Really to ... and why ...?

- that is, as I understand it, there are no constructive objections to me. Yes, no, I don’t know?

Quote: twviewer

And why was the junta to recognize and negotiate with her?

- the junta was recognized after the "elections", which were "held" by Poroshenko
- at the time of the referendums in Donbass, the junta was not "recognized"
- there was an attempt to "extinguish the fire with minimal damage." And this is anyway - negotiations ("a bad peace is better than a good quarrel", have you heard that?)
- the Russian Federation was not ready for the power option at that time. Whether morally, physically, but was not. What directly follows from the attempt to "settle the matter peacefully"
- an attempt to settle everything "without a firefight" was thwarted by a demonstratively hastily held referendum. Read - by the then leadership of the LPR-DPR as performers
- who was the organizer and customer of this .. um .. shares - I don’t know

Everything else that you asked there was not relevant at that time.

Voooot

[twviewer]

Quote: Cat Man Null

Everything else that you asked there was not relevant at that time.

Mistake this is the most relevant. They are not negotiating with the junta. Now it is called consultation. :) And the fact that you singled out Crimea from the whole Russian world is just ridiculous. And who and how supported pro-Russian forces in Ukraine?

[Cat man null]

Quote: twviewer

You are mistaken this is the most actual

- I do not think so. I have a reason

Quote: twviewer

They are not negotiating with the junta. Now it’s called consultation.

- Yes, at least, call a convulse ... meaning - boltology instead of a shootout

Quote: twviewer

And the fact that you singled out Crimea from the whole Russian world is just ridiculous

- laugh, your right

Actually, that's all

[twviewer]

Quote: Cat Man Null

- I do not think so. I have reason to laugh

you live in a ghostly world, and in fact Ukraine is now an anti-Russian state. And with the approach demonstrated by the Russian leadership, there could be no other result.

[Cat man null]

Quote: twviewer

in fact, Ukraine is now an anti-Russian state

- it (the state) is not so little since 1991
- Ukraine is not Russia, who started it? That's right, Kuchma with the Kuchmanavts ..

Quote: twviewer

with the approach demonstrated by the Russian leadership, another result could not be

- GYYYYYY
- with any approach - in 2014 Ukraine was already firmly anti-Russian, with 20+ years of experience

Quote: twviewer

you live in a ghostly world

- in what world I live - you are not given to know

Holivar is completed, adieu

[twviewer]

Quote: Cat Man Null

- it (the state) is not so little since 1991
- Ukraine is not Russia, who started it? Right, Kuchma with the Kuchmanauts

they didn’t shout about going to Moscow, they drank merrily at the Russian budget, no one interfered with this, did not oppose it, and now Strelkov is to blame because he believed in trepidation about the Russian world ?! Famously. And the holy fathers in 18m will be elected again and will continue to crap?

[the lord]

Yeah, but then do not tell me an alternative to the referendum, are you our thoughtless one? You didn’t catch the eye of the video just like in one of the cities of the DPR, on the eve of the referendum, the law-enforcers entered and occupied the building where it was supposed to happen. The people fled. demanding them to be cleaned, duck they shot several people during this time. Everyday, he pulled the trigger, a man fell ... In such a situation, should the New Russians behave differently? Something other. except referendum do?
And the Russian Federation has drawn itself into the conflict because of the Crimea. Hoping that Ukrainians will calm down and stop demanding his back is a waste. So it was worth the darkest to consider the option of a full-scale war and prepare it in advance. It was not difficult to reach such conclusions, right?

[Cat man null]

Quote: znavel

Yeah, but then do not tell me an alternative to the referendum, are you our thoughtless one?

- I will tell you. "Road spoon to dinner". This is about the referendum, which the Russian authorities strongly advised .. to postpone, not to cancel

Quote: znavel

on the eve of the referendum, the law-enforcers entered and occupied the building where he was to happen

- if the date of the referendum had not been set - the pravosek would not have come. "The day before". For lack of a reason to come

Quote: znavel

In such a situation, should the New Russians behave differently? Something other. except referendum do?

- obey the elders, oddly enough. In this case, the leadership of the Russian Federation
- right now, by the end, are they obeying? Just nakolbasili before .. well, just immeasurably

Quote: znavel

And the Russian Federation has drawn itself into the conflict because of the Crimea. Hoping that Ukrainians will calm down and stop demanding it back is a waste

- well, and let him ... demand. They already canceled the sunset in the Crimea, has something changed from this?
- they blocked the water - they solved the problem, they turned off the electricity - they also decided .. everything was on schedule, as if

Quote: znavel

It was not difficult to reach such conclusions, right?

- no, it’s not difficult, you’ve reached
- only here are your "conclusions" .. extremely oak, IMHO

[the lord]

And if you read yours again, will you find all the funny moments? Ie, against the background of trains of friendship on which the killers were traveling to them, they had to remain loyal to the junta that came to power? You have not offered any alternative to the referendum. Who will listen to some "older brother" who, until recently, did not seem to be? It’s like in one film the king’s beloved wife was strangled, and he stood nearby and said, “be patient, maybe it will be okay”. There, people have already announced the creation of people's republics - would they respect the junta for this, in your opinion? You have an increased level of endorphins there because of putenoidism and it obviously goes off scale and interferes with feeling yourself in reality.
In Crimea, yes, we solve problems at an accelerated pace. Obliged, since it took. Only all these problems are due to the half-heartedness and cowardice of the current authorities. Trukhanuli - that’s the result, multi-billion expenses, which could not have been.
And about the "oakiness" of my conclusions ... Ie. the fact that we redrawn the borders of states in your opinion should not have led to an armed conflict in any way? I don’t think you are that stupid. So we were obliged to calculate the worst case? Obliged. And you had to gather enough forces for this option before everyone started? Must. And that means there was something to fight, but they trukhanuli and actually betrayed the people. What is "oakiness, young lady? Girlish desire to say nasty things to an opponent?"

[Cat man null]

Quote: znavel

against the background of friendship trains on which the killers rode to them, should they remain faithful to the junta that came to power?

- remember - the trains were before the referendum, or after? This is ... not without interest

Quote: znavel

You did not offer any alternative to the referendum

- I did not offer, but the GDP. Conversation.
- These negotiations were being prepared at an accelerated pace. Hand-rams from the Donbass, in fact, tore them. Yes, no, I don’t know?

Quote: znavel

In Crimea, yes, we solve problems at an accelerated pace. Only all these problems are due to the half-heartedness and cowardice of the current authorities. Trukhanuli - this is the result, multi-billion expenses, which might not have been

- do you mean the war with Ukraine?
- and the costs of "forcing Ukraine to peace", naturally, would be less

Quote: znavel

in no case should lead to armed conflict?

- no. And still hasn't led, mind you ..

In short - Sklofosofsky (s)

[Simpsonian]

Ukrainians, in general, do not demand - they demand fagots from some TV dressing room in embroidered shirts with pitchforks and other "Ukrainians", well, this one ... who is the leader of a part of the Crimean Tatars, who served in the USSR under Article 117 for rape ...
Oh yes - the USA and the EU are still

[the lord]

I read it, but I sensed something sour, I tried something. But I will answer briefly. Strelkov never compared himself with Suvorov and Kutuzov. He fought by whom and what was and how he could. The reason for his success is a mess in ukroarmi- and in his ranks were there special forces and guards? Why when he had to retreat from Slavyansk, no one came forward to help gain a foothold away from Donetsk? Whose nobody could keep Sands and Avdeevka? We would live right now in silence and grace))))
For the rest of the contents of the opus, right now, all Ukrainians reading this enthusiastically applaud)))). In the course, it’s your delirium that is real wrecking. I propose to remember Dremov, Bednov and Brain. Well, to make it completely clear how successful the current rulers of LDNR are doing everything

[Captain45]

Quote: Berkut24

So what was the plan, for what? For the sake of gaining fame due to the bloody massacre that has occurred, imposingly scratching a cat stretched out on a table in a cozy cabinet in Moscow, prudently capitalize everything that happened in political dividends?

Ay, well done

[Kent0001]

And I'm talking about it, only briefly .... they did it. I support.

[weksha50]

Quote: Pulya

The swamp is our government.

Most likely - the Duma ... It is not the government that adopts stupid laws that no one needs, and does not let through, it slows down the necessary-necessary ...

This I did not say at all in defense of the government, which I myself can’t stand, but for the purpose of objectivity and concreteness ...

[Cat man null]

The cat in the photo is gorgeous!

Quote: Pulya

He crossed the Rubicon, but then suddenly and illogically stopped. He did not retreat, but he does not go forward. It seems that he has no ideas, and it seems that he froze in anticipation of a miracle

- IMHO forgot ...
- if you do not understand something, this does not mean that it is "illogical"

[RUSS]

Quote: Cat Man Null

The cat in the photo is gorgeous!

And who do you like (Man Null) of a manula or Maine Coon like Strelkov's most?

[Cat man null]

Quote: RUSS

And who do you like better

Here is my beauty

[Greenwood]

Well, in fact, Strelkov is right. There was an opportunity then, in the spring of 2014, to occupy the entire pro-Russian southeast of Ukraine in a short time. The Ukrainian "army" would not have uttered a word. There would be no war, no all this shelling, the suffering of the civilian population, etc. And for any sanctions and difficulties in the economy, it would not be so offensive. And so, we sit, neither fish nor meat, we all look back at the "partners", suddenly the sanctions will be lifted, and a lot of people died, and the Donbass is in ruins.

not only Russian, but also international.

And what is it, the British wanted to talk with Strelkov, he expressed his thoughts to them and that’s it.

And for the Western press, the real nightingale trill is to listen to how anyone, regardless of rank, status and political views, criticizes the authorities of Russia and personally Vladimir Putin.

But the critic is not always a friend of the West.

[brasist]

Well, in fact, Strelkov is right. There was an opportunity then, in the spring of 2014, to occupy the entire pro-Russian southeast of Ukraine in a short time. The Ukrainian "army" would not have uttered a word.

Strelkov's camouflages are like the Generalissimo's.

[Dmitry Potapov]

I'm embarrassed to ask that "Guardian" has great authority with Girkin? Maybe swing at the Air Force? Or to give interviews to the potentially enemy media criticizing the country's leadership as a trait of a true patriot? And haste is needed when catching fleas!

[Greenwood]

Quote: Dmitry Potapov

to distribute interviews with a criticism of the country's leadership to a potentially hostile media feature of a true patriot?

He did not tell them anything new in essence. Only general phrases about the nature of warfare during his command of the militia in Slavyansk and about dissatisfaction with Putin's indecision.

[Cat man null]

Quote: Greenwood

He did not tell them anything new in essence. Only general phrases about the nature of warfare during his command of the militia in Slavyansk and about dissatisfaction with Putin's indecision

Remember, remember, same-as-same:

- Putin, bring in troops and
- otherwise we will all die

[Thinker]

And there, by the way, they die ... Somehow it is written sadistically and mockingly ..

[avt]

Quote: Dmitry Potapov

I'm embarrassed to ask that "Guardian" has great authority with Girkin? Maybe swing at the Air Force?

Belkovsky squeezed money at the Air Force in London - after all, he also needs to eat something, but he likes to eat it ha-ra-sho.

[Dembel]

Everyone thinks he is a strategist seeing the fight from the side.

[JonnyT]

a cunning man, he still ....... says something that is beneficial to his personal well-being ........... afraid of the fate of the brain

[ALEA IACTA EST]

And this read to us collapse ...

[bad]

Quote: RUSS

The Kremlin has something to criticize, but in this case Strelkov is not quite right.

there are many fans to criticize ... but to pull the country out of the ass almost alone "heroes" cannot be seen ... but to steal billions and to prophesy their London there are fans ... and offended shooters just ... apparently he thought he would be hung with medals and kiss ... no..

[Greenwood]

Quote: bad

here is the country from the ass to pull out almost alone "heroes" can not be seen

Ghm, who's that country out of the ass alone pulled out there? Who do you mean ?!

Quote: bad

steal billions

Billions are not stolen from us by Strelkov and other romantic idealists, but by quite serious uncles in important posts who have sucked on the state feeding service.

[Vladimirets]

Quote: Greenwood

Shooters and other romantic idealists

Romantic idealists are the most terrible people, they do not have a specific goal, they want "everyone to feel good," and this never happens in life.

[Greenwood]

Quote: Vladimirets

they do not have a specific purpose

Exactly, Russian officials are quite another matter. They have a clearly expressed goal - to steal as much as possible from the budget and transfer to offshore, and heroically, no matter what, achieve these goals.

Quote: Vladimirets

they want "everyone to be good," but in life it never happens.

Hmm, in Soviet times we built a country where everyone would be fine. But they realized that "this does not happen." In fact, in this world, every man for himself, the fittest survives, man is a wolf to man, any methods are good to achieve the goal, up to walking over their heads. It is with this thinking that we have come to the current Russian reality.

[Vladimirets]

Quote: Greenwood

Exactly, Russian officials are quite another matter. They have a clearly expressed goal - to steal as much as possible from the budget and transfer to offshore, and heroically, no matter what, achieve these goals.

Do you have any kind of complex? Can't you remember other people’s business and goals?

Quote: Greenwood

Hmm, in Soviet times we built a country where everyone would be fine. But they realized that "this does not happen."

Did I miss something? Still built communism? Strelkov’s problem is that in his head he had already imagined Great Russia, but he does not see the ways to achieve this (sane).

[Gardamir]

it never does.

Well, if you never compare now, then it was better.

[Pulya]

Quote: bad

Quote: RUSS

The Kremlin has something to criticize, but in this case Strelkov is not quite right.

there are many fans to criticize ... but to pull the country out of the ass almost alone "heroes" cannot be seen ... but to steal billions and to prophesy their London there are fans ... and offended shooters just ... apparently he thought he would be hung with medals and kiss ... no..

Why so petty and viciously spray saliva on a person ????
You might think he shed blood for the "medals" ???
Pretty sneaky post ...

[Gardamir]

almost alone

This loner has so many pulling partners, Chubais, Gref, Ulyukaev, and Kudrin invited his best friend.

[Thinker]

In the pancake, rzhach-cool you are talking about Kudrin stripan-Umor but ... really a womb. Something our Volodya's throwing souls sort of like a country pulls out as much as the ropes are cracking it invites people to all known who clearly do not correspond to their posts. Strange

[Djuma-13]

And I, as in Girkin, was disappointed last year with words beyond words!

[Dam]

You are not alone, I am sinful, also succumbed to charm at the beginning, only after retreating from Slavyansk I began to think, and then Igor Ivanovich repainted so that you won’t wash it off anymore. Was there a hero? Or the magic of media PR.

[Thinker]

It’s like in the film The Diamond Arm — at first I had a different opinion about this man, but now I understand that he artfully disguised himself as a decent citizen, and I don’t believe him ..
Well, at least kill immediately reminded of the dialogue that was written. Without understanding, not understanding-and-on-x-to the wall, the epicrisis is written-GUILTY!

[Gardamir]

disappointed

Because he did not want to die surrounded? Or because the Kremlin began to poison him? So much for the Russians, that the Kremlin, that the State Department!

[samarin1969]

"So much for the Russians, the Kremlin, the State Department!" ... in the top ten!
Russians in the Kremlin were only walls. Fort world business.

[Dam]

I am a military man, and I understand the word order, which replaces what I want or do not want. And if, I retreated without an order, I am a traitor to my place under the tribunal. Something like this. Our commando in Syria could surrender, but caused fire on himself, and so he is a HERO. And everything else is just an excuse for a dishonorable act

[the lord]

Yes, you go, and so many war times of the Second World War you can afford to condemn, the villains retreated, right up to Moscow ... and sometimes without an order! So directly, through the swamps from the environment ... They did not die, but abandoned their positions. You, a military citizen, had to leave the environment? And to decide the fate of the garrison in this situation? Let me remind you that Strelkov was then the Minister of Defense of the DPR, he could and had the right to turn in cities, take cities, shoot marauders and just criminals under wartime laws ...
It seems to me, the staff. military citizen ...

[pig killer]

In January 2015, he reasonably predicted the defeat of the BCH on the Debaltsevo ledge.

[tomket]

Two key points in which you can agree with Strelkov and be disappointed in Putin. a) the situation with New Russia (and the word is what, already forgotten, isn't it?) b) The situation with the great geniuses of the economy in the country. Kudrin looks especially funny with his searchlights of salvation and Medvedev, who makes him doubt Putin by his existence.

[gg.na]

Putin and his entourage have recently taken steps that, I believe, will almost inevitably lead to the collapse of the system. We do not yet know how, and we do not know when, but we are sure that this will be a collapse. I think it will happen sooner rather than later.

I can not understand the collapse of which and whose system will be ?! That system that partners try to impose? Or the one that is now being carried out in ohruin ?! So I also think that sooner or later the collapse will be!

[tomket]

Quote: gg.na

I can’t understand the collapse of which and whose system will be ?!

Nicholas II also probably did not understand in 1916 about what kind of collapse he was being told.

[vobels]

".. Putin and his entourage have recently taken steps that, I believe, will almost inevitably lead to the collapse of the system. We do not yet know how, and we do not know when, but we are sure that it will be a collapse. I think , it will happen sooner rather than later .. " Something, here and there, sometime .. Nothing concrete, some interjections. And the Westerners were so happy that somewhere around the corner we were in danger of collapse.

[the lord]

And prosperity awaits us? In response, I will tell you one funny word - "import substitution")))). Did you laugh too? For 16 years nothing has been created for the mass consumption of the masses, so that everyone knows it. And interjections - it is difficult to give specific dates in politics - it is enough to evaluate the process itself. And about the mistakes that can lead the current government and Russia to collapse, he already told me once.

[Cat man null]

Quote: znavel

For 16 years not to create nothing for mass consumption

- Well, why is it so categorical? Shirnarmass, for example, was attached to mobile phones .. and to the Internet, by the way
- you have Russian language .. strange .. but what about English?

Quote: znavel

In response, I will tell you one funny word - "import substitution")))). Did you laugh too?

- Nope ... we are importing a little bit. And by the pike command it, substitution, cannot arise

Quote: znavel

And about the mistakes that the current government and Russia could bring to collapse, he already told lam once

- and why - mistakes there ... brought?
- if you say "halva" a hundred times, your mouth will not become sweeter
- and the one who is not mistaken doing nothing sitting at the table and stroking a cat ..

Funny you

[the lord]

Wait a minute, have the masses been introduced to mobile phones and the Internet - are these Russian mobile phones and the Russian Internet? How long have you been using a Russian microwave? Or were they watching the news on Russian TV, say? And what brand of Russian cell phone do you have?
When there is nothing to argue, they are trying to get personal, I understand. But I have Russian within the great and mighty in all its glory of versatility))))
We are importing little by little, only who will live up to real results. Little by little means a long time. And I don’t see any mass events on this occasion, alas (. Everything piece, exhibition ...
And your last comment is just bile. I already wrote about his activities in supplying LDNR, but you really are sitting at the table and stroking her pussy, young lady.
I don’t find you funny

[Cat man null]

Quote: znavel

Is it Russian mobile phones and Russian Internet?

- the entire infrastructure (you know that word? Repeaters and other jewelry) is owned and maintained by Russian companies
- phones, computers and other - import. Duc to compete in a "clogged" market is suicide, dear

Quote: znavel

We are importing little by little, only who will live up to real results. Little by little means long

- naturally ... I told you - nothing happens by the pike command

Quote: znavel

I already wrote about his activities in supplying LDNR

- they also write on the fences. And I have every reason not to believe you. Earned

Something like that..

PS: for rudeness - an appropriate assessment, call

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: znavel

but you really are sitting at the table and stroking pussy, young lady. I do not find you funny

Cat, that's forgotten.

[Cat man null]

Quote: mordvin xnumx

Quote: znavel

but you really are sitting at the table and stroking pussy, young lady. I do not find you funny

Cat, that's forgotten.

Yes, I noticed .. and appreciated.

The young lady who is sitting at the table stroking her pussy is a very relief sight, it is understandable ..

But do not stoop down to .. um .. stupid collision with a respected opponent

[vetor]

And what is it to him to confess before such publications?
Did he get a job at Dozhd?

[Gardamir]

Are you talking about the president? He also likes to give interviews inosmi?

[Cat man null]

Quote: Gardamir

Are you talking about the president? He also likes to give interviews inosmi?

Gardamir, drop it .. dope

- For the President, this is one of his duties. Part of his work, so to speak.
- at your ... umm ... client there is no such defendant, this is his personal initiative

Feel the difference .. and still throw dope

[Gardamir]

Feel the difference .. and still throw dope

So I agree with you, but what would have changed if Strelkov had given an interview to the newspaper Komsomolskaya Pravda?

[Cat man null]

Quote: Gardamir

Are you talking about the president? He also likes to give interviews inosmi?

Quote: Gardamir

So I agree with you, but what would have changed if Strelkov had given an interview to the newspaper Komsomolskaya Pravda?

- there about the President, here already about Strelkova .. there is a mixture of warm and soft, no?
- I’m exactly in an interview with Strelkova. Indeed, he did not say anything new, fundamental
- It’s not exactly right for me that the promotion (by means of foreign media, by the way) of the next pseudo-political under-formation begins. For Igor Strelkov does not pull on a real politician
- everything, naturally, PMSM

Voooot ...

[Borus017]

Urzhatstsa. Vladimir Vladimirovich cries bitterly in the corner of his office - Strelkov is disappointed in him! Interestingly, did Girkin play against himself or who helped?

[AdekvatNICK]

he thinks of military affairs. He is not aware of all the behind-the-scenes political intrigues. Therefore, he cannot fully appreciate the Kremlin’s action. Hence the disappointment. The expression smiles most of all ... I don’t know when, but I know what will happen for sure))) EPT, well, a wang of pure water.

[Darwin]

quickly he changed his shoes

[Black]

I didn’t believe in “independence” of “Strelkov”, I do not believe in “independence and independence” of “Girkin”. It would be foolish to think that some kind of imitator of battles, suddenly, by itself, went and made such a mess, even if he were a "radical nationalist" in the 5th generation.
The Kremlin needed "Shooters" - they got it, they needed "Girkin" - we have.

[3vs]

The arrogant Saxons seem to have begun to play the Girkin card.
Misha is not pulling, but this fool can come in handy in an attempt to collapse Russia.

[avt]

Quote: 3vs

The arrogant Saxons seem to have begun to play the Girkin card.
Misha is not pulling, but this fool can come in handy in an attempt to collapse Russia.

I will clarify - the effort and money spent on the belogants did not give the desired result. They are not fools and clearly seeing the bickering of oppositionists on the Internet and not even pressure, and humiliating jokes in the media actually turned out to be without any tools before the elections. Even having changed the completely insane "founding fathers" of "Yabloko", the desired result is not expected. Even the "magician" Churov removed the GDP and changed it to the promoted one EBN-Pamfilova, that is, it won't work to hum about election fraud.

Survived. We can say, we found it in the garbage dump, washed it, cleaned it from cleaning,

They dragged out and shook them, on the advice of the MK party and Belkovsky, who had departed for the mpzh, a real colonel. ”Well, Udaltsov / Tyutyukin is sitting from the last party of the white-gondon, and Anal is under investigation, and they are not even fighters together. So it was launched. But it is liquid, but YET it turns out - such a budget option. One hundred poods probably promised the curators the same brilliant cavalry raid into politics, which was carried out by the late Lebed under the leadership of BAB. BUT! There is no tribune ... in the sense at all no x dull and tongue-tied. No - petting cats, but starting a crowd of ea rallies ... Every Saturday, Zhirinovsky trained on Saturday across from the market in Sokolniki every 90 days - he was gaining courage and the complexes were obsolete in front of the crowd. So the swan could - didn’t go into the pocket from the sheet and folding Yu and word with army jokes to fun. That's why the Guardian, not the Air Force and something stronger. They are waiting for how he will show himself for these elections and the presidential.

Quote: 3vs

and this fool can come in handy in an attempt to collapse Russia.

Every bite in a row.

[Grave With Cross 3]

Apparently, soon it will be necessary to take stock. The oligarchy for Russia in numbers, nothing personal, business!
"R.F. MILLIONS OF PEOPLE LIVE WITHOUT
30 water pipelines
37 sewers
23 heating
49-hot water
46 gas "
It's fun to listen to "Gazprom is a national treasure". It is, of course, a national treasure, but whose question is it?

[AdekvatNICK]

and you look at how much their long-suffering stadium in St. Petersburg costs)) this money would be enough for millions of people to hold gas.

[pig killer]

Source of statistics indicate pzhl. I’ll add that in Russia
millions of people live without crocodile meat and, for example, coca leaves.

[pig killer]

Source of statistics indicate pzhl. I’ll add that in Russia
millions of people live without crocodile meat and, for example, coca leaves.

[Grave With Cross 3]

Yes, no question, this is from the Twitter of the hero of Russia Alexander Garnayev. A real hero by the way!
https://twitter.com/a_garnaev

[lopvlad]

Quote: volot-voin

his small detachment restrained the army, which gave Donetsk time to prepare well for the defense

it was just that the Ukrainian army did not have an order to take Slavyansk. The Ukrainians were waiting for the Russian army to rush to Ukraine to rescue Strelkov in response to the call "Putin help".

Or does someone naively believe that the Ukrainian army would not have taken Slavyansk then within a week after Strelkov arrived there if there had been an order?

[the lord]

But it turns out this is a good Ukrainians did not want to mess about any militia, but were waiting for a real heap?))))))))) Excuse me, but right now you froze this))))))). So I remembered how the militia corpses of one such moron with high-voltage wires removed))))). Yes, the PiSie spawn in panties and T-shirts off to Mariupol in September 2014. That they so waited in your opinion the Russian army?))))).
And since they could take Slavyansk within a week, why did they use phosphoric ammunition, so much and often art? Is it really more pleasant to take a ruined city. the more less saved?)))))
In the process, you are here behind the Russian flag in vain behind the hood, change to yellow-faded)))))

[svp67]

Quote: lopvlad

just the Ukrainian army had no order to take Slavyansk

Yes. Interesting opinion. That is, their efforts to completely encircle the city is an initiative "on the ground"?

Quote: lopvlad

Ukrainians were waiting for the Russian army to rush to Ukraine to rescue Strelkov in response to the call "Putin help".

It may be so, but most likely so, they are still waiting for this, but then it was generally their "zhovto-blakitna mriya".

Quote: lopvlad

Or does someone naively believe that the Ukrainian army would not have taken Slavyansk then within a week after Strelkov arrived there if there had been an order?

I believe, since both the order was and the attempts to first resolve the issue of "Slavyansk" by a simple special operation by the forces of Alpha , and then the army was.

[warrior]

More and more disappointed in him ... Short-sighted person. War and politics are two completely different things.

[avt]

Quote: warwer

War and politics are two completely different things.

Well, this is a bust however - the guns are the last argument of the kings to achieve a political result. Otherwise, this is not war, but maneuvers,

[Skifotavr]

Quote: warwer

More and more disappointed in him ... Short-sighted person. War and politics are two completely different things.

And in my opinion Strelkov-Girkin is a Jewish mole. And all this treacherous political garbage was conceived by them from the very beginning. You can minus to shit.

[Ros 56]

It has a right, but everyone is happy with everything here. And especially our government led by DAM

[Des10]

... and literally the following is being reported as Strelkov’s characteristic: “a radical nationalist”.

I am not even accustomed to the appearance of such a radical Russian nationalist - round, well-fed, with an abdomen and a cat. Although the cat - nothing to do with it, and the castrate - in appearance. This is about the cat. Till.
His new "I" is already quite boring - not a hero (he was in Slavyansk), does not shine with intelligence, not independent then - and now ...
Sorry for their hopes - on "Personality", came out - zilch, unfortunately.

[MATROSKIN-53]

Strelkov-Girkin could not restrain Slavyansk, and now blames Putin for indecision. Not at all ... Russia that was supposed to send its troops to Ukraine ?! So it would be a truly illegal military invasion of a sovereign state. Russia does not wage aggressive wars. But the self-proclaimed republics of the DPR and LPR had to defend and release the Strelkov with their combat units. Koli took up his tug, do not say that not a dozen. It turned out weakly. Generally washed off the Donbass. And now the interview is passing left and right. Hero ... And Putin returned Crimea without a single sacrifice and does not throw the country into the mud!

[the lord]

The darkest one had permission from the State Duma to send troops to the ruin; this would be a completely legitimate action. Strelkov kept Slavyansk for several months, but help from Pu did not come, is there sufficient reason for reproaches? And he would continue to defend LDNR and, I think, would not allow stopping the militia at Mariupol if he remained in power, but if you did not forget, they removed him. And according to the story of one of his civilian former associates, almost the pears were taken out almost in the trunk. not that GB. You should be ashamed after such words, at least for yourself.
And Pu Crimea returned ... without a single sacrifice ... but in the Donbas they still kill ... Russians ... close to the border of the Russian Federation ... Doesn’t it seem to you that the darkest likes to do more with the Caucasus, Islam, but not with the Russians?

[Cat man null]

Quote: znavel

(Strelkov), I think, would not allow stopping the militia at Mariupol if he remained in power

- thinking is not given to you
- the topic was chewed a hundred times in
- low-quality troll, thickly ..

Quote: znavel

Do not you think that the darkest likes to have more business with the Caucasus, Islam, but not with the Russians?

- But this is a clinic ...

[the lord]

A young lady, a clinic is something that you persistently want to deny the obvious. Recall South Ossetia? What are the reasons and for how long have we stood up for the fraternal people? And this under the conditions in our army is much worse than in 2014! Provided that in Georgia then there were Amero specialists, and Amer ships entered the Black Sea. Nothing! taken and done.
Or will you deny the young lady?

[Cat man null]

Quote: znavel

Recall South Ossetia? What are the reasons and for how long have we stood up for the fraternal people?

- Russian peacekeepers stood in Ossetia, EMNIP
- in the Donbass of those .. didn’t happen somehow
- chew the difference for you, or do you think yourself?

Quote: znavel

the clinic is that you persistently want to deny the obvious

- exactly. I'm glad you finally understood it.
“You won’t be like that again, I hope?”

[SVD]

Well, he cried to the Anglo-Saxons in a waistcoat, he will soon hug Kasparov.

[Volksib]

Until you find yourself in the shoes of the decision maker, you don’t wear his boots and you will never understand what drives him. The shooter hero displays a vivid illustration of the Russian World, volunteers. Glory to him for all that he has done. But this is a tactic throughout the country. Putin does not take decisions can only think of normal healthy patriots of our Great Country. There are still millions of old people and children, there are obligations as a guarantor. Russia is not only a war in the Donbass and Syria, it is also a sowing campaign in Siberia, fires in the Far East, the construction of a school in a single village ..... Everyone is right in his own way and rightly so.

[Grave With Cross 3]

"There is no money, but you hold on!" - Medvedev
Have a good mood!

[Cat man null]

Quote: Grave With Cross 3

"There is no money, but you hold on!" - Medvedev
Have a good mood!

All troll? IMHO the fatty gets

[Grave With Cross 3]

Quote: Cat Man Null

All troll?

Do you mean this or Medvedev? Or do you work with him for a couple?

[plow]

The only harm from such interviews. The very fact that he gives an interview to the arrogant Saxons, in which he pours dirt on the supreme. It remains only to move to London and shout from there (like Nemtsov) that Putin will personally kill him. Then throw yourself a tie in the outhouse (like Berezovsky), depicting a martyr and a victim in the fight against the bloody regime.
It would be more likely that the rooster crowed three times already, marking the end of the Night of Svarog, so that all evil spirits would manifest themselves. Then it will finally become clear who is the friend, who is the enemy and who is to blame. And what to do will also become clear.

[CAH4OYC]

Putin and his entourage have recently taken steps that I believe will almost inevitably lead to the collapse of the system.

If they lead to the collapse of the colonial system, then this is a good arrow!)))

[NordUral]

But this is in vain. These are our internal affairs.

[Alexdark]

Yes, he has long established himself as a spontaneous 5-column. earns fame in any way. Why has not yet joined the Armed Forces of Ukraine, is not clear. Although there are people who made an idol out of him, they will tear and throw)
Girkin’s place among Kasparov, Khodor, and other idlers.

[merivoy]

But how many were satisfied with Putin? Some kind of patriotism is selective. Someone stuff bags of gold, and someone spiritual ties, birches and the Orthodox cross to procrastinate.

[Sergey333]

But is this Girkin a provocateur by chance? Like a small child - if you didn’t buy that chocolate, then the parents are bad.

[Hannibal Lecter]

Quote: sever.56

And how upset Vladimir Putin was that Girkin was "disappointed" in him ...
He does not sleep at night and cannot eat. Everyone thinks: - "Well, how can I return Girkin's favor, again he will like it" ???
For the fact that he did not refute the presence of our army in the Donbass, but proposed to think up magazine magazines, you can spit in his eyes. With such a provocative statement, he gives them the right to write what our units were there.

Offended Strelkova something. The general was probably not given. Now it will crap about Putin. But in principle, what does he incubate in Russia?

[the lord]

Well, then, Strelkov leads the Novorossiya movement, which collects aid from the militia and civilians of the LPNR throughout the Russian Federation. Now forms a political movement of patriots for whom the darkest is not an icon. In my opinion, he behaves quite decently and correctly within the framework that the GB presented him.
But the question is, do Pu's actions suit you in everything? Has there been any dissonance yet? Here, in the ruin, negotiations are starting again with Gazprom on gas supplies at a discount from the 3rd quarter of this year, to maintain the regime, so to speak, how is that?

[Cat man null]

Quote: znavel

Well, so Strelkov leads the "Novorossiya" movement, which collects help from the militia and civilians of the LPNR throughout the Russian Federation

- and collected a lot?
- And how many humanitarian convoys and other military trade from the Russian Federation have passed, try to compare .. Many things will open for you

Quote: znavel

Now forming a political movement of patriots for whom the darkest is not an icon

- "Darkest" and for me - never an icon .. but under the banner of Strelkov I am not drawn for some reason .. flair, you know

Quote: znavel

But the question is, do Pu's actions suit you in everything? Has there been any dissonance yet?

- translate arrows? A familiar trick .. although cheap as much as possible ..

Quote: znavel

Here, in the ruin, negotiations are starting again with Gazprom on gas supplies at a discount from the 3rd quarter of this year, to maintain the regime, so to speak, how is that?

- it is so for us that you are not Copenhagen in this. From the word "absolutely"

All IMHO, minus mine

[the lord]

Collect and a lot, you can look at their reports. About the humcon convoys from the Russian Federation, it’s a lure for the local hucksters. Control according to many evidence, not really))))
She doesn’t pull under Strelkov’s banners; the dark ones are not needed there, young lady. At once they will understand, and they haven’t piled up yet)))
What arrows are we talking about? The question is specific - again we supply enemies and expose ourselves to something there apologizing and paying off. Does not look like it? Although for you - the question is purely rhetoric, when there is no conscience, the actions of the owner are acceptable in everything ...
And yes, I'm not Copenhagen; Copenhagen is a city))))

[Cat man null]

Quote: znavel

Collect and a lot - you can look at their reports

- I’ll look at my leisure .. somehow .. maybe

Quote: znavel

About the humcon convoys from the Russian Federation, it’s a lure there

- exactly. It was after the very first hum-convoy near the LPNR that the tanks began to "run" .. and before that they were standing, but then it coincided - solarium spilled from the sky

Quote: znavel

again we supply enemies and expose ourselves to something there apologizing and paying off. Does not look like it?

- well, yes, yes .. only three lard (sovereign, IMF recognized) debt in Ukraine is already hanging
- well, it will still hang

Quote: znavel

And yes, I'm not Copenhagen - Copenhagen is a city

- if the city is capitalized, as it were ..
- and you are a cheap troll, with an old training manual .. all these questions on VO have been chewed for a long time, and forgotten

That's something like

[Jack-b]

As the saying goes: "Curtain!"
Everything slowly went to this. And unfortunately happened early and not late.
I think that there is no point in commenting.

[mamont5]

Quote: RUSS

The Kremlin has something to criticize, but in this case Strelkov is not quite right.

Just "to each his own." Shooters are not a politician - he is a soldier. And the GDP is a politician and it maintains a balance between all parties to power.

[termite]

I did even more for the Russian world
and I was always disappointed with Putin
true true
for half-drunken ensigns - glory to Kabaev

[Sergey333]

Quote: termit

I did even more for the Russian world
and I was always disappointed with Putin
true true
for half-drunken ensigns - glory to Kabaev

What kind of grass do we smoke ??

[termite]

not smoking we do not advise you

[uruss]

What to say about this already! it was necessary to immediately take Kiev while it was warm but something stopped the distinguished gentlemen; now it’s too late alas! it remains to observe what will happen! more interesting!

[Zloy ork]

Rumor has it that the black-assed marmot PMC creates, not otherwise is going to overthrow the king. Well, what, Vikusya Nuland will please his love. And it is a pity for Strelkov, "there are no prophets in their Fatherland."

[Nirvanko]

Quote: RUSS

The Kremlin has something to criticize, but in this case Strelkov is not quite right.

What is he wrong with? Before you say that someone is wrong, think about how you can aggravate your words.

[wolk71]

It seems to me that this is another duck.

[Siberian]

It looks like a cut from different interviews (different characters) given at different times and by different people. With him suddenly, Strelkov rattled off with some kind of tm English-language press. Well, at least not personally to Obama told this. This is a "abstract" from the Internet pages (see above). All this has already been said in 2 years.

[Nirvanko]

When Slavyansk was under threat of encirclement, Strelkov insistently asked the Kremlin for help. The Kremlin sent "aid" in the form of a half-hearted Kurgyanin, who then poured mud and foam at his mouth on Strelkov for allegedly surrendering Slavyansk. It's disgusting that there are such scum in the Kremlin.

So yes, there are reasons to be disappointed.

[Thinker]

Quote: Corsair

Quote: Denker

Despite the fact that Americans have landed in Finland, which is already really annoying !!!

Well, don’t you laugh like that))), the American landing force cannot really strain, the presence of all kinds of missile defense systems, other launchers and ships with axes and other missiles along our coasts is annoying, and let the American landing force even be 5 thousand there - this is on the scale of St. Petersburg, where you throw a cry and collect 100 thousand volunteers to spit once - well, nothing annoying.

But it’s annoying if only because they violated the agreement of 44, according to which they do not have the right to station any military contingent on their territory and join any blocs, provide their territory for exercises and conduct joint maneuvers. I live in Karelia and for me, for example, this is important

[Volzhanin]

The man is wrong. I also like to criticize the authorities. But this is our personal business with her. It does not concern foreigners in any way!

[Gardamir]

I also like to criticize the authorities.

So there is nothing to criticize for? Is this just your hobby? However, if the whole discussion boils down to the fact that we shouldn’t discuss our domestic Russian affairs with foreign media, then I agree with that.

[PKTRL]

Quote: vanavate

and what his mighty deeds of the last time should unanimously cover the media, who is he at all? VO has whole specialists-biographers on it, and the rest of Russia was told about him when he did something, and now what? criticizes the authorities? and who does not criticize her? there is zyuganov which year ... so even though the team boasts of the program, and of the shooters? Putin is wrong, corruption, etc., and sho? we are in the know

Exactly..! "Mighty" Girkin.. And.., I’ll add, without humor (I’ve already said this on other “threads”): who can tell me what useful things Girkin did?! Slavyansk surrendered, Donetsk is surrounded, almost cut off from the border with Russia... These are his achievements, I don’t know others. It was not he who “pushed back” the fascism of the Kyiv Kaganate to the current borders of the DPR! And none of those who “worked” with boilers whined like a reenactor: if only we had weapons and military equipment, we would have them..! Justify its usefulness to the Russian people in the DPR and Russia.. I repeat, not a single Girkin helped the Russian people and the peoples of Russia, he only drowned them in blood.. The sectarians of G are already sick of the witnesses...
Soon (closer to the presidential elections) Girkin will be “marching” in the marsh with brown or white ribbon fish and pressing the “crab” nulonduhi for cookies.
They let him “show off” until his puppeteers are revealed!

[eugene]

...in the meantime, our “supreme” is marching with his “partners” from Obama City at the same time.

[the lord]

Those. when he held back a superior enemy for several months with a small number of people - is this so, nonsense? But tell me, why when he retreated from Slavyansk to Donetsk, no military group moved to help him in order to create new lines of defense, but only away from Donetsk? But there were no sufficient groups. All these hodors and zakhars were walking around Donetsk, kicking bolts.
The real work on organizing the defense of Donetsk began only when Strelkov arrived. And all the necessary work to make the boilers possible was carried out with him.
But the “visionary security officers” didn’t need such a person - in the future, he would be one of the darkest possible competitors, so he was removed from the leadership. And the rest of the commanders were dealt with much more simply - remember Bednov, Dremov, Mozgovoy?
You're sick of Strelkov's witnesses - I personally feel sick from Pu's witnesses - they're ready to bury anyone on command

[Cat man null]

Quote: znavel

Strelkov... in the future one of the possible competitors of the darkest, so they were removed from leadership

- Aren’t you funny yourself?
- let’s say he even leads the LDPR... so what - is he a competitor to someone there?

I repeat - go play in the tanks, that’s where you belong

[the lord]

Oh, what's so funny about that? Only those marked with something get there? Strelkov’s authority and fame are sufficient. Well, not for the next elections, but for the next ones, quite well. He’s one of those who really fought for the Russian world, but the darkest one prefers only behind the scenes, where he can also twist the fight to his advantage.
Go braid your hair, young lady

[masiya]

What a horror of comments, but there is nothing to talk about, Girkin (Strelkov) will remain as he was, he cannot turn out to be an ardent traitor, but it’s elementary to sort out various fuss - maybe it’s a pity... the man was OURS and became half a stranger... ( His cat is AMAZING, I’m a cat person myself and I respect them and their owners...)

[eugene]

Strelkov, of course he is a well-known person, well-known, i.e. There's nothing you can do about it. And his disappointment with the idea “we don’t abandon our own...” is quite legitimate. He is just an ordinary person, not a politician (that is, not a “tidy tail”) and he, like us, is offended by the “power.” So, I think we need to understand him, with all his (Strelkov’s) pros and cons.

[The legacy of ancestors]

Quote: Mahmut

This interview with the British press shows that Strelkov (Girkin) decided to tackle the publicity of not only Russian, but also international scale.

But what if the Russian democratic press announces a boycott for him. There is nothing to be done; one has to become a world-wide personality. Putin really surrounded himself with enemies of the people. What's wrong. The truth pours water on the mill of our enemies. So who is to blame that she is so bitter. Now we work 3 days a week. But this is before the election. Then they will generally say look for a job, and in compensation they will increase the retirement age. A spoon of honey in a tar barrel will not fix, as though many would not like it. You can sit on the couch and dream that everything will form by itself. Girkin is not one of those who live by prayers alone. But Maidan is not going to. This is an ideal oppositionist.

Everything is correct, with just one correction. Putya himself is worthy of being surrounded by enemies of the people. That is why he surrounded himself with them.

[weksha50]

"wanted Russian troops to enter Ukraine. Then the interviewee added that does not want to comment on the issue of the absence or presence of the Russian army in Donbass, leaving the right to think to journalists themselves The Guardian."...

It’s in vain that he was like that... In fact, journalists took THIS phrase as an unspoken confirmation of the presence of Russian troops in Slavyansk (!!!)...

But he supposedly stayed on the sidelines... He didn’t say anything directly...

[olimpiada15]

It seems that Strelkov went into politics in vain.
In order for a politician to get the desired result, one must be able to speak in such a way that the desired effect is obtained.
In the interview, Strelkov could not give a good answer to the question about the presence of Russian troops in Donbass; what he said was unacceptable. And he doesn't seem to understand this.
Criticism of Putin is normal, but not in an interview with the Western press; there is no need to add fuel to the fire, because they have long since overdone it when it comes to demonizing Putin. But in answering questions, there is something to learn from Putin. Remember how he answered the question “Who would Erdogan or Poroshenko save?” - he outlined his position and did not say it directly.
Before you criticize GDP, you need to be better yourself.

[samarin1969]

Judging by the inadequate regularity of articles in the “Anti-Girking” style, someone at VO has already “broken their forehead.”
Calm down gentlemen!

[Captain45]

From a statement by Strelkov (Girkin) in an interview with The Guardian:
Putin and his circle have recently taken steps that I believe will almost inevitably lead to the collapse of the system. We don't know how yet, and we don't know when, but we are sure it will be a collapse. I think it will happen sooner rather than later.
“We don’t know what will happen to us, where it will happen and how it will happen, but we know for sure that this may not happen” (c) V. Balkov “Unpublished” So the insides of the “reenactor” came out. But back in 2014, when they were “throwing caps into the air” and choking with delight at the “hero”, VO published an article with quotes from Strelkov from different years, and in 2011-12 he spoke very impartially about Putin and not only about Russia it was the same, and from his statements one could imagine who he was in his gut. I then assumed that he would still appear as a provocateur, but they shoved minuses at me in the wake of general euphoria and I did not raise this topic again. By the way, the article was apparently deleted , I looked for it, but it’s not on “VO”. I wanted to copy it then, but I couldn’t save it.

[PKTRL]

Quote: Nirvanko

When Slavyansk was under threat of encirclement, Strelkov insistently asked the Kremlin for help. The Kremlin sent "aid" in the form of a half-hearted Kurgyanin, who then poured mud and foam at his mouth on Strelkov for allegedly surrendering Slavyansk. It's disgusting that there are such scum in the Kremlin.

So yes, there are reasons to be disappointed.

Kurginyan is a talking head like Girkin. They are all the same, pi..s. A husband is valued by his actions.. I repeat, Girkin prepared 3-4 30-minute video messages every day. When did he manage to command the defense of Slavyansk?!

[Stas157]

Quote: PCTRL

I repeat, Girkin cooked every day

That is, he was exclusively engaged in PR and show business in Slavyanskie?

[Makarov]

I wonder who “we” are...

[PKTRL]

It’s interesting.., only children don’t talk about Girkin, i.e., a resonance, as the liberals say, has occurred..!
I would like to remind the “defenders” of Girkin, and you are talking about how Trisch Girkin in July 2014 proposed tearing down several high-rise buildings in the center of Donetsk, so that it would be convenient for the reenactor to “command” from the ruins and the civilians of these houses would not be disturbed.. After all, Will these houses still be hit with dill?! Logical.., fuck..it! Fuck Judas logic!

[the lord]

When you are delirious, first call a doctor to come to you, so that if necessary, he gives an injection on time or something....

[Grave With Cross 3]

But I don’t like Strelkov either, or whatever, Roldugin... I honestly earned 2 billion bucks playing the violin in underground passages. This is the boy! There would be more of these! And Strelkov... this, that, for the Russians... for justice... for the idea... Where should he go against Roldugin? Golden Bow of Russia. And in general, I am grateful to the president (for life). Now I will look up to Roldugin. I will sing ditties in the passages and earn even more bucks. I'll outdo the musician. In general, comrades, everyone into the underground passages, play violins, balalaikas, flutes and tin cans! And you, Strelkov, Strelkov! Why do we need heroes?!

[eugene]

The inner, deeply spiritual state of Comrade. (gr.) I don’t know Strelkov.
I was not in his soul, I did not read his spiritual tablets. But I will not argue with him on any of the above lines from his interview. Moreover, I agree with all the lines given. The people have probably forgotten who the “great Pu” is and where and how he came from. Please refresh your memory with historical memories.
There is a good Russian proverb "...the apple is not far from the tree - it falls..."
Let us remember from which “apple tree” the “apple” fell - Putin.

And, to criticize an ordinary person behind his back, this is something the media “brethren” are good at.
And, Strelkov is a child, compared to the sharks of the press and TV.
He is not a politician or a “psychotherapist”; he says what he thinks.
Whether he is a big man or a small one, time will tell.
Nevertheless, this man left his mark on history, unlike many of his spiteful critics.

[Nirvanko]

Quote: PCTRL

Quote: Nirvanko

When Slavyansk was under threat of encirclement, Strelkov insistently asked the Kremlin for help. The Kremlin sent "aid" in the form of a half-hearted Kurgyanin, who then poured mud and foam at his mouth on Strelkov for allegedly surrendering Slavyansk. It's disgusting that there are such scum in the Kremlin.

So yes, there are reasons to be disappointed.

Kurginyan is a talking head like Girkin. They are all the same, pi..s. A husband is valued by his actions.. I repeat, Girkin prepared 3-4 30-minute video messages every day. When did he manage to command the defense of Slavyansk?!

Apparently, he succeeded, considering that he defended Slavyansk to the last.

[Lens]

Girkin spoke. And he started talking about those topics that are so inconvenient for adherents of the “they won’t be there” and “you’ll lie” sects. You can’t argue with him about the events in Donbass while sitting on the sofa, you can’t say “minus”. When Strelkov’s (Girkin’s) figures begin to emerge, they will be anathema.

[Sergey333]

You all advocate for Strelkov as if he were a saint, or you think that he does not understand that Putin will not expose the population of Russia to attack and will not climb into the trap set by the United States. Judging by the way he behaves, he is either a man with a narrow mind, or with ambitions like Father Makhno’s in civilian life, who did not recognize anyone’s authority, but only his own power. A person who does not understand what discipline and orders from above are cannot lead a military unit, otherwise anarchy will begin. The unit commander should only think about how best to carry out the order and with the least losses, and not give advice to his superior.
And before you give me a “-”, read the latest news about what NATO is doing there in exercises, practicing the capture of Kaliningrad. Only inadequate people can raise a fuss against a nuclear power; there’s not enough time for a couple of small towns that Strelkov had to surrender.

[the lord]

They deigned to speak so well about Strelkov’s dim-witted brains. Along the way, you've dropped everything with your intellect so much that it's creepy

[eugene]

Quote: Sergey333

that Putin will not expose the Russian population to danger

I don’t consider myself part of the “POPULATION”. I didn’t “let’s come to Moscow in large numbers...”.

[Stas157]

Quote: code54

And Strelkov, excuse me, has matured, he finds time to play with pussies

Why be jealous! Go to Donbass yourself and play with pussies!

[Grave With Cross 3]

Strelkov was left alive, and not killed, like many others, in order to practice all the methods of psychotropic warfare on him. So that those who literally sang hallelujah to him for just a few months now incriminate and curse him. This is what we see now. They don't need a martyr, they need an outcast and a renegade. But here their psychotropic machine malfunctions and Strelkov becomes a hero for many. And all these Kurginyans, Surkovs, Kudrins, Grefs and even himself... (it’s even awkward to write) look somehow... not very...

[eugene]

Chubais, Golokhvostye, Livanov, Siluanov...

[Tim]

Quote: AdekvatNICK

and you look at how much their long-suffering stadium in St. Petersburg costs)) this money would be enough for millions of people to hold gas.

and you haven’t yet mentioned how Gazprom (a national treasure) buys millions of football players who can’t really play, but our provinces have nothing to pay doctors and teachers, plus preschools and educational institutions, medical institutions are closed, we help everyone, we forgive debts to states, in Kazakhstan gas and gasoline are cheaper than in Russia.

[eugene]

“Our” management has a positive attitude towards collection “activities”, which are illegal in essence and content! There is not a single law in the country regulating this “activity”, but the “guarantor” (in his words) has a positive attitude towards this “activity”! This is it, zeal for the people.
I haven’t taken and never intend to take out loans in my life, but it’s a shame for the people.
First, drag people into a debt trap, and then justify the gangster-banking greed.

[kg pv]

Quote: sever.56

And how upset Vladimir Putin was that Girkin was "disappointed" in him ...
He does not sleep at night and cannot eat. Everyone thinks: - "Well, how can I return Girkin's favor, again he will like it" ???
For the fact that he did not refute the presence of our army in the Donbass, but proposed to think up magazine magazines, you can spit in his eyes. With such a provocative statement, he gives them the right to write what our units were there.

Do you know 100% that they were not there?

[eugene]

Quote: Captain45

I then assumed that he would still appear as a provocateur

Words... what? Provocateur. Left draft dodger, esser... away we go...

[eskanderRUS]

The order is rotten!

[Russia]

Strelkov must be respected for what he started. But further - in the light of “world movements”, it seems to me that his knowledge is not enough.

Let's take this...

He crossed the Rubicon, but then suddenly and illogically stopped. He did not retreat, but did not go forward. It seems that he has no ideas, and seems to be frozen in anticipation of a miracle. In fact, it is stuck in the middle of the swamp.

Yeah, it was necessary to send in troops and then - “We will fan the world fire to the grief of all bourgeois!”
We went through this in 1917-22 with Trotsky. They wanted to ruin the whole world with the hands of Russians. Moreover, without having the economic potential for this. Stalin stopped this movement and relied on restoring the economy of the USSR. And, I believe, I was not mistaken.
One question - is the country now ready to fight with the whole world? Will the economy survive?, Is the army ready? After all, as soon as we enter any land to “defend the Russians,” any persecution of all Russians around the world will be justified. In addition, many current “allies” will turn away right away!
Will we then be enough to “protect” Russians everywhere?

and that during the operation in Slavyansk he wanted Russian troops to enter Ukraine.

In continuation of what was said above - And how the states and the EU wanted it! And now they want it! They're already drinking boiling water! If only we could give them a free hand!

When Strelkov was asked whether there was a regular Russian army in Donbass, he stated that he was independent, and that during the operation in Slavyansk he wanted Russian troops to enter Ukraine. The interviewee then added that does not want to comment on the issue of the absence or presence of the Russian army in Donbass, leaving the right to think to journalists themselves

Unless the journalists got it wrong, then I don’t understand such coquetry at all...

The impression is that there is now more “personal” in his actions and words.
But this is my impression...

[the lord]

Oh. and when troops were brought into Crimea, we weren’t afraid of war? Was this not a sufficient reason for the USA and the EU to clash with us? Why did the situation with Donbass suddenly become different? The Western intelligence services figured out your darkest one, and leaked misinformation about “red lines” - that’s it. And at the same time he allowed people in Donbass to be killed.
Of course, in the event of a full-scale war with stoners, people also died, but there is a big difference when armed men die and when old people, women and children die.
Regarding the fact that the USA and the EU so want the Russian Federation to send in its troops, are you aware of their plans?!!! And the idea that this is an excuse for wanting to keep your lards is not okay?

[Cat man null]

Quote: znavel

Oh. and when troops were brought into Crimea, we weren’t afraid of war? Was this not a sufficient reason for the USA and the EU to clash with us? Why did the situation with Donbass suddenly become different?

- Russian troops were in Crimea from the very beginning. There's a naval base there, if anything. They were just slightly replenished
- they were not afraid of war. And if they entered Donbass, no EU (let alone the States) would get in there. Is it the Balts and the Poles?
- a full-scale war between the Russian Federation and Ukraine is the dream of the States, because:
- Russians beat Russians (they are exactly the same - Russian, or Ukrainian... for them everyone is Russian)
- Europe has a serious mess at hand (the US’s love for its European partners, I believe, does not need a detailed description)
- Europe has problems with gas, oddly enough
- the Russian Federation also has problems... that is, there are much fewer opportunities to wriggle out than now, for example
- ...

Quote: znavel

The Western intelligence services figured out your darkest one, and leaked misinformation about “red lines” - that’s it. And at the same time he allowed people to be killed in Donbass

- people in Donbass were “allowed to be killed” by the Turks who started a “referendum on independence” there
- this provoked a “hot” conflict

Quote: znavel

Of course, in the event of a full-scale war against stoners, people would also die

- such a war still needs to be endured. Purely economically, yeah...

Quote: znavel

Regarding the fact that the USA and the EU so want the Russian Federation to send in its troops, are you aware of their plans?!!! And the idea that this is an excuse for wanting to keep your lards is not okay?

- young man, go play in the tanks. You seem to be incapable of more

Everything is as always, IMHA

[the lord]

Girl, go braid your mom’s hair, and then talk back to your grown-up uncle.
There were already troops in Crimea, we know, but he himself wrote that they were replenished, right? And since you’ve already called yourself a load, go out of your way to remain one. And then “Russians don’t abandon their own people in war”... it’s too ugly.
And the nonsense that explains why suddenly the EU and the USA are not interested in a conflict with the Russian Federation is generally perplexing - the darkest chama did not send troops into Donbass?
The full-scale war against stoners in 2014 could well have turned into a blitzkrieg. Back in 1942, the Deutsche proved that the ruined territory is no obstacle to invasion from west to east, and even more so from north to south. So if they could survive it, they could survive it economically. Well, girl, you still won’t agree with this. The USA and the EU will immediately become against you, despite the reasons you stated for their reluctance to conflict)))).
And with the referendum, you showed yourself to be weak-willed; they had no alternative to a referendum at all. Or rather, it was to perish in concentration camps. But this won’t convince you either, young lady)))

[Cat man null]

Quote: znavel

The full-scale war against stoners in 2014 could well have turned into a blitzkrieg

- What is this undoubtedly calculated and verified conclusion based on?

Quote: znavel

So if you survive, you could survive economically

- and this one, excuse me, what is it on? Did you think it yourself, or did someone suggest it? Who suggested it, if so?

Quote: znavel

And with the referendum, you showed yourself to be weak-willed, they had no alternative to a referendum at all

- govo:

Quote: IN THE WORLD → CRISIS IN UKRAINE 17:27, May 7, 2014, http://www.interfax.ru/world/375300

Putin asked to postpone the referendum in south-eastern Ukraine. According to the Russian president, this must be done in order to create the necessary conditions for dialogue with the Kyiv authorities. Moscow. May 7. INTERFAX.RU - Russian President Vladimir Putin called on representatives of the south-east of Ukraine to postpone the referendum scheduled for May 11. He made his statement after negotiations with the current OSCE Chairman Didier Burkhalter. According to the head of state, Moscow calls on the southeast of Ukraine to take this step “to create the necessary conditions for dialogue” with the Kyiv authorities.

The dialogue can be held in the form of a round table, the Russian president believes. “I recently spoke with the Federal Chancellor of Germany, and Mrs. Merkel proposed organizing this in the form of a round table. We support and believe that this is a good proposal, and we will contribute in every possible way to this development of the situation,” he said.

Putin rejected claims that the key to resolving the crisis in Ukraine lies in the Kremlin's hands, calling them a ploy by Western partners "that has no basis in fact." “As soon as our colleagues in Europe or the United States lead this or that situation to a dead end, they always say that now the key to resolving the problem is in the hands of Moscow and all responsibility rests with it,” the Russian leader explained.

- what to do with post-shooting, we could try to agree... Oh, how, it turns out
- but with the hands of the leaders of the DPR and LPR, together, like two sheep, they crashed into the practically open gates. And they held a referendum
- how the opportunity to “agree” was thwarted
- which led, as I already said, to the “hot phase”
- and then Strelkov appeared... as if by order... or maybe - simply - by order

PS: I'll tell you while I wasn't rude. Good advice to you - stop... I'll bite you

[the lord]

About the blitzkrieg on the events of September 2014. They drove us and didn’t have time to catch up with them. Many settlements simply came under the control of the militia at once. If the Russian army had entered there, there would be a barren steppe to the west, just pursue. Deutsch did just that in 1942.
Economically, driving away a ruined and inept army is a very profitable business. Much remains not evacuated - use it for the benefit of the common cause. Or did this never occur to you? Not surprising.
I already wrote about the referendum - there is simply no alternative. When they come to kill you. It’s time to defend ourselves on the basis of popular support, which is revealed by the referendum. The only acceptable way to state your goals legally. Otherwise, foreign legionnaires of all stripes would have come to kill in an organized manner.
And your article with “excuses” for Putin is a total lie. Imagine the Terbats and National Guards who are going to some kind of negotiations with Putin? Even now they don’t listen to anyone, they even wet their dry skins (I hope you’ve heard about “Mowgoli”?). And then they wouldn’t have bothered especially because they weren’t scared yet. But for you, I suspect, this is not an argument either. Your darkest, of course, would have found the necessary formulations and explanations that would have satisfied everyone in everything))) And Crimea would have remained in the Russian Federation)))))
And PS, you were being rude to me, offering to play tanks

[Cat man null]

Quote: znavel

About the blitzkrieg on the events of September 2014. We drove them and didn’t have time to catch them

- exactly. their hats, their hats...

Quote: znavel

I already wrote about the referendum - there is simply no alternative. When they come to kill you. It’s time to defend ourselves on the basis of popular support, which is revealed by the referendum. The only acceptable way to state your goals legally. Otherwise, foreign legionnaires of all stripes would come to kill in an organized manner

- I say - a clinic. You only hear yourself. I feel sorry for you

Quote: znavel

And your article with “excuses” for Putin is a total lie. Imagine the Terbats and National Guards who are going to some kind of negotiations with Putin?

- no one was going to “negotiate” with the Terbats. But adding some thread to the UN there was quite, IMHO, realistic

But still go and play tanks... calms the nervous system

[Simpsonian]

The last thing the United States wants is for Russia to start protecting the interests of Russians in Alaska, so maybe it would be better to start there?

[Wrighter]

"Kutuzoff" still does not sink.

[Vladimir71]

I have been following publications about Strelkov for several years now, and at the same time, people were divided into two camps in any comment, the pros and cons were approximately the same. True, at the beginning there were only forest responses, later the commentators split into two camps, parity was maintained, but now Igor is again going into the plus. What does this have to do with a change in audience or Many people rethink everything again???

[Monster_Fat]

In fact, he tells all this to the Red Cat... and the Cat “listens attentively” to him....

[Enoch]

God bless Igor Ivanovich! The "swamp" began to seethe - the sofa was pushing onto the sofa. God will judge everyone. God bless! Glory to Russia!

[The Sparkle]

Strelkov seems to me like some kind of slippery, two-faced guy. There are no facts, just an inner feeling. And don’t count me among Putin’s fans on this matter)))

[The legacy of ancestors]

Quote: Nirvanko

When Slavyansk was under threat of encirclement, Strelkov insistently asked the Kremlin for help. The Kremlin sent "aid" in the form of a half-hearted Kurgyanin, who then poured mud and foam at his mouth on Strelkov for allegedly surrendering Slavyansk. It's disgusting that there are such scum in the Kremlin.

So yes, there are reasons to be disappointed.

The surname of the main scum begins with the letter P. Or maybe it’s not a surname at all....

[Denis Skiff]

Strelkov complains that Putin stopped after solving the issue with the Crimea.

Who wants war? We are not aggressors, we know how to negotiate. And we will still do what is best for us and without wars!

[PKTRL]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBPU02yNhns

This man is the ideal Officer, defender of the fatherland! While the Euro-Girkins allegedly defended Slavyansk (and not SlavYansk - that’s the correct way to pronounce it, i.e. from the word glorify), people held the defense of Donetsk..! Rest in peace to the Pantsir battalion commander.