How to kill the Russian space program. Part of 1
After reading the comments to the material What are we going to fly through 5 in years? In the footsteps of publication, I caught, as they say, several of my miscalculations.
Firstly, I didn’t say "in the coffin" and, moreover, against this "in the coffin", no matter how some readers would like to show it.
Secondly, I absolutely agree that heptyl is not the best component. And it was decided to abandon it in favor of kerosene on the Soyuz and Angara by the 2025 year. But, excuse me, even this is not a reason to ruin such a plant and a design bureau like the KBCA.
I apologize, a little in 90-e closed, and now gnawing elbows?
Thirdly, it is wonderful if everything is as it was written by our readers in the Khrunichev center. Delightful. But then again, if you think that the Khrunichev Center will be able to pull everything out alone on its shoulders, no problem. Then, indeed, the plant and test site KBHA - in the furnace storieswith all the consequences.
The problem is that the engines are assembled in KBXA. And who are not going to - they are being tested. Including those produced in Khrunichev State Research and Production Space Center. Or am I mistaken, and burn dvigla for "Protons" in the same place, in Fili? Sorry then...
In any case, in the article I gave a certain announcement (for those who read line by line) about communicating with KBKHA employees. I completed my task. In my arms I have a two-hour story about what is happening in the enterprise. And I did not talk with hard workers. Engineers, including the head of one of the units. Two continue to work there, one came under the June reduction. At first I thought to just put the record, but then I refused the idea. Too a swagger there ... blossomed. But, if someone decides that this is a “polymer fake,” there is evidence of the authenticity of the conversation.
Perhaps the whole story does not fit in one article, nothing, we will continue. So I offer you the first person monologue of workers in the space industry. It was actually a monologue, so rarely I will give my explanations in italics.
... A little more than half a year ago there was a change of power in KBKHA. There were old-timers headed by the former general director and general designer Rachuk. Rachuk removed very ugly. They asked, persuaded for a long time, motivated both by age and by the fact that I already grabbed enough. Rachuk really scored enough laurels on the same developments of other engineers and designers, which led. Well, premiums, and other things. But, the truth is, when they say that they did not allow the plant in 90 to fall apart and ruin, they are telling the truth.
Using the story with "Cryoservice" (worthy of a separate material - RS), Rachuk removed. In October, 2015 bring a new mate. Kamysheva A.V. From Rostelecom. There were different rumors, someone said that he was a protege of our governor, Gordeyev, someone said that Kamyshev was a distant relative of Medvedev in the line of the Voronezh’s aunt of the prime minister. (In general, Governor Gordeyev has a hard alibi in terms of Kamyshev, since Kamyshev became a big boss in Rostelecom long before Gordeev appeared in Voronezh - R.S.).
For us, the workers, the appointment of a comrade banker is acting. executive director was a real shock. In spite of all the statutes and other documents, according to which such a position is not provided at all in KBKHA. However, the Moscow company Energomash appointed Kamyshev executive director. Do their will. And began a series of personnel changes.
It was logical to assume that the new executive director would lead the new executive team. But what happened in practice, we did not expect.
For some 3-4 of the month, the top leadership changed to 90%. Deputy Economy and Finance, Deputy Personnel, Legal Department. Began crushing departments. More precisely, Kamyshev began to create departments consisting of 2-3 people.
For example, all our life we had one personnel department. And it is quite clear what he did. Now we have a recruitment department, a recertification department, a personnel department.
Lawyers. It was our jurbyuro. The Bureau! Not a department. From 3's people. Kamyshev created management. Of the 3-x divisions, in each 2-3 person. Naturally, the head of the department, the deputy secretary of the head, and in each department on the head of the department and a subordinate. And all the bosses with the appropriate salaries.
A little old began to displace. It came to frank humiliation, when at a weekly meeting, where everyone was invited, at some point the “old guard” was asked to continue working, and the director discussed further factory questions only with his team.
As a result, two of the old (!!!) people remained. This is the deputy. Executive Director for Production Volgin and Acting Chief Engineer Kodyntsy. And it’s not a fact that they will hold out any more.
We used to have three main engineers. The chief engineer of the enterprise, the chief engineer of the engine plant and the chief engineer of the test complex. Now there will be only one. How he can embrace everything, I, as an engineer, do not understand.
Directors also canceled. Previously, the factory and IC (test complex. - RS) were the director. Now on the test complex is the head of the complex and his two deputies. Deputy for production and deputy for poster systems. The deputy for poster systems is the former chief engineer. The essence of the duties is the same, but the salaries ... But I will tell you about salaries separately later, since I own the numbers.
Generally, when Kamyshev dragged his team, put them in chairs in the management and gave a salary in his own way, it turned out a huge failure. According to the salary of those who were and those who came.
Here are the numbers.
Deputy Executive Director for Human Resources. Salary 150 thousand. Plus surcharge for secrecy. 30%. In our department, which is completely secret, there are no such extra charges. And then - the personnel department ... What's the secret, except for wages and their impassable nonsense? I have a surcharge for the secrecy of 10%. And I work with technology as well. And then - the staff. Plus there is a variable bonus. I do not know why they are rewarded for personal service, but ...
For comparison. We had the position of general designer. Now it is not. Introduced the post of chief designer. Gorokhov we GK. Cool man, "Angara" engine designed, head, God grant him health and long years.
Gorokhov salary 105 (one hundred and five) thousand.
And this is a person who, in fact, makes it possible to earn money with his head. Not to ourselves, not to us. Country. Outraged? Wait a minute...
Kamyshev leads his secretary. Yes, a pipette that is necessary, the highest class. And gives her a salary of 70 thousand. To the secretary. Accounting, of course, infu leaked, the people began to resent, and in the old manner to speak out in the open. It got to and. about. In order to substantiate such a salary to this Pigalitsa, Kamyshev introduces the position of head of the department manager, and puts it to this position. Type she will now command all the secretaries of the plant, machine office, mail, and so on. With the same + 30% for secrecy, bonuses and other pleasures.
Recruited staff in the department of motivation, so there was almost no casting on the external data and the level of familiarity with and. about. Scored on 80 thousand laid. Recruitment - 65 thousand salary. Years that way on 30, in the heads of the vacuum. It came to idiocy, we came to the motivation department with our internal documents, but they honestly stated to us, we have been working here for two months, we don’t know what to do with your calculations.
Come on by who all the tests are. That is, we go through the IR. Here is your salary for the head of the Gurin test complex. 54 thousands. The salary of Matyukhin, the former chief engineer of the IC, is now the deputy director for bench systems. 42 thousands. Heads of departments. The fire department has always been more expensive, they have 35-37 thousands. Cold tests, balancing, accelerating, they are cheaper. 25-30 thousand. For the secrecy of no more than 5%, there is no change of the bonus for a long time.
The length of service was. In September, will be taken away. But there it is really necessary to otpahat half a life to get 12%. But the thing of the past, clean.
Here is the real level of salaries of managers. I have so far just walked through the leaders. Here you will appreciate the real difference between those who came to pull, is sitting, not fucking thinking that he should at least theoretically be able to, and those who are carrying themselves with tremendous responsibility for the launches.
And now we will move smoothly to the engineers and workers. Engineers. The difference between the 1 category and category-free - 3-5 thousands. Without a category - this is a boy after college, the 1 category is you for at least 10 years old.
There is still a difference between the main and auxiliary production. Basically, they still pay extra for harm from 5 to 20%.
To the basic rate of an engineer without a category, which is 16 thousands.
That's what an engineer at KBX is. Just consider yourself, anyway - tears in our time. The level of "free cash" in the normal hypermarket.
Further. Workers. Fitters, installers, mechanics, hydraulics, in general, all workers specialty 6 discharge (and less we do not take), the ceiling - 14 thousands.
Master - plus or minus 20%.
And it is clear that a normal, handy person, and even with experience for such pennies, will not squirrel. On the test the main majority of hard workers from Gremyachiy (nearby village. - R.S.). And there are such shots ... By the way, I noticed that if the drinker is more or less handy. But if the non-drinker and with Gremyachiy - it is generally better to stay away from him, there will be no good. Or look in four eyes, so that something is not screwed up.
We have a mechanic of the 6 category, who only mows the grass all day. Just because his hands exclusively under the scythe are sharpened. And the people work for him. Just because the grass also needs to be mowed. But on the grass in general is a separate topic.
In the 2015 year, we have had a lot of checks in the past years. So, the main task was to whiten, paint, mow and sweep. Expelled all: engineers, workers, heads of sectors ... Heads of departments did not leave unless. In the rain, not in the rain, do not care.
The curbs should be white, the grass should be mown, the asphalt should be swept out, the bushes should be cut into cubes. ALL commissions looked at the sanitary condition of the territory. This was discussed at the planning meetings. This is generally complete ... There would be no way for them to go to the workshops at least once, to see what was going on there.
Then read the comments and quietly shizeeesh. "Burn the branches, saw off emergency and dead trees" ... Everything. Commissions ...
But there will be a separate story about the workshops.
Here Rogozin spoke, blurted out that we are lagging behind the Americans by some amount. It was he who was not in our factory, it is interesting that the curator said after that. Zero would have attributed.
Meanwhile, we are doing what the Americans cannot yet. And fly on our engines. And the French, and the Spaniards, and the Germans. And on the ISS, without us, no one yet. Here's what for now.
And who is this "bye" will cancel? Old people who do not retire, because there is no one else and the morons are crooked, that they leave the old men? Who is leaving now? Here in June they made a reduction. And one more in November will be. And those who I said will remain. With all that it implies. Because they (points to the other interlocutors. - R.C.) horseradish can add up, like one on 16, and the second on 19 thousands to live. With families.
On patriotism to leave? Patriots will be these, in departments with a salary of 60 and above. And what would they not be patriots and patriots? What problems? And we have one problem - to survive, but to find work, in order not to survive, but to live. We want to live in a human way, understand?
I personally understand. Therefore, I will continue the "decoding" and publication of our rather long and somewhat chaotic conversation. Because then there will be another story about the "work" everyday life and management, and the plant, and the test complex. From the first persons. Which are really first, because they assemble and test the engines of "Protons", "Unions", "Hangars". If only because these people sincerely support their enterprise. And they would never leave it themselves. But here they simply survive.
So to be continued. Tomorrow.
Firstly, I didn’t say "in the coffin" and, moreover, against this "in the coffin", no matter how some readers would like to show it.
Secondly, I absolutely agree that heptyl is not the best component. And it was decided to abandon it in favor of kerosene on the Soyuz and Angara by the 2025 year. But, excuse me, even this is not a reason to ruin such a plant and a design bureau like the KBCA.
I apologize, a little in 90-e closed, and now gnawing elbows?
Thirdly, it is wonderful if everything is as it was written by our readers in the Khrunichev center. Delightful. But then again, if you think that the Khrunichev Center will be able to pull everything out alone on its shoulders, no problem. Then, indeed, the plant and test site KBHA - in the furnace storieswith all the consequences.
The problem is that the engines are assembled in KBXA. And who are not going to - they are being tested. Including those produced in Khrunichev State Research and Production Space Center. Or am I mistaken, and burn dvigla for "Protons" in the same place, in Fili? Sorry then...
In any case, in the article I gave a certain announcement (for those who read line by line) about communicating with KBKHA employees. I completed my task. In my arms I have a two-hour story about what is happening in the enterprise. And I did not talk with hard workers. Engineers, including the head of one of the units. Two continue to work there, one came under the June reduction. At first I thought to just put the record, but then I refused the idea. Too a swagger there ... blossomed. But, if someone decides that this is a “polymer fake,” there is evidence of the authenticity of the conversation.
Perhaps the whole story does not fit in one article, nothing, we will continue. So I offer you the first person monologue of workers in the space industry. It was actually a monologue, so rarely I will give my explanations in italics.
... A little more than half a year ago there was a change of power in KBKHA. There were old-timers headed by the former general director and general designer Rachuk. Rachuk removed very ugly. They asked, persuaded for a long time, motivated both by age and by the fact that I already grabbed enough. Rachuk really scored enough laurels on the same developments of other engineers and designers, which led. Well, premiums, and other things. But, the truth is, when they say that they did not allow the plant in 90 to fall apart and ruin, they are telling the truth.
Using the story with "Cryoservice" (worthy of a separate material - RS), Rachuk removed. In October, 2015 bring a new mate. Kamysheva A.V. From Rostelecom. There were different rumors, someone said that he was a protege of our governor, Gordeyev, someone said that Kamyshev was a distant relative of Medvedev in the line of the Voronezh’s aunt of the prime minister. (In general, Governor Gordeyev has a hard alibi in terms of Kamyshev, since Kamyshev became a big boss in Rostelecom long before Gordeev appeared in Voronezh - R.S.).
For us, the workers, the appointment of a comrade banker is acting. executive director was a real shock. In spite of all the statutes and other documents, according to which such a position is not provided at all in KBKHA. However, the Moscow company Energomash appointed Kamyshev executive director. Do their will. And began a series of personnel changes.
It was logical to assume that the new executive director would lead the new executive team. But what happened in practice, we did not expect.
For some 3-4 of the month, the top leadership changed to 90%. Deputy Economy and Finance, Deputy Personnel, Legal Department. Began crushing departments. More precisely, Kamyshev began to create departments consisting of 2-3 people.
For example, all our life we had one personnel department. And it is quite clear what he did. Now we have a recruitment department, a recertification department, a personnel department.
Lawyers. It was our jurbyuro. The Bureau! Not a department. From 3's people. Kamyshev created management. Of the 3-x divisions, in each 2-3 person. Naturally, the head of the department, the deputy secretary of the head, and in each department on the head of the department and a subordinate. And all the bosses with the appropriate salaries.
A little old began to displace. It came to frank humiliation, when at a weekly meeting, where everyone was invited, at some point the “old guard” was asked to continue working, and the director discussed further factory questions only with his team.
As a result, two of the old (!!!) people remained. This is the deputy. Executive Director for Production Volgin and Acting Chief Engineer Kodyntsy. And it’s not a fact that they will hold out any more.
We used to have three main engineers. The chief engineer of the enterprise, the chief engineer of the engine plant and the chief engineer of the test complex. Now there will be only one. How he can embrace everything, I, as an engineer, do not understand.
Directors also canceled. Previously, the factory and IC (test complex. - RS) were the director. Now on the test complex is the head of the complex and his two deputies. Deputy for production and deputy for poster systems. The deputy for poster systems is the former chief engineer. The essence of the duties is the same, but the salaries ... But I will tell you about salaries separately later, since I own the numbers.
Generally, when Kamyshev dragged his team, put them in chairs in the management and gave a salary in his own way, it turned out a huge failure. According to the salary of those who were and those who came.
Here are the numbers.
Deputy Executive Director for Human Resources. Salary 150 thousand. Plus surcharge for secrecy. 30%. In our department, which is completely secret, there are no such extra charges. And then - the personnel department ... What's the secret, except for wages and their impassable nonsense? I have a surcharge for the secrecy of 10%. And I work with technology as well. And then - the staff. Plus there is a variable bonus. I do not know why they are rewarded for personal service, but ...
For comparison. We had the position of general designer. Now it is not. Introduced the post of chief designer. Gorokhov we GK. Cool man, "Angara" engine designed, head, God grant him health and long years.
Gorokhov salary 105 (one hundred and five) thousand.
And this is a person who, in fact, makes it possible to earn money with his head. Not to ourselves, not to us. Country. Outraged? Wait a minute...
Kamyshev leads his secretary. Yes, a pipette that is necessary, the highest class. And gives her a salary of 70 thousand. To the secretary. Accounting, of course, infu leaked, the people began to resent, and in the old manner to speak out in the open. It got to and. about. In order to substantiate such a salary to this Pigalitsa, Kamyshev introduces the position of head of the department manager, and puts it to this position. Type she will now command all the secretaries of the plant, machine office, mail, and so on. With the same + 30% for secrecy, bonuses and other pleasures.
Recruited staff in the department of motivation, so there was almost no casting on the external data and the level of familiarity with and. about. Scored on 80 thousand laid. Recruitment - 65 thousand salary. Years that way on 30, in the heads of the vacuum. It came to idiocy, we came to the motivation department with our internal documents, but they honestly stated to us, we have been working here for two months, we don’t know what to do with your calculations.
Come on by who all the tests are. That is, we go through the IR. Here is your salary for the head of the Gurin test complex. 54 thousands. The salary of Matyukhin, the former chief engineer of the IC, is now the deputy director for bench systems. 42 thousands. Heads of departments. The fire department has always been more expensive, they have 35-37 thousands. Cold tests, balancing, accelerating, they are cheaper. 25-30 thousand. For the secrecy of no more than 5%, there is no change of the bonus for a long time.
The length of service was. In September, will be taken away. But there it is really necessary to otpahat half a life to get 12%. But the thing of the past, clean.
Here is the real level of salaries of managers. I have so far just walked through the leaders. Here you will appreciate the real difference between those who came to pull, is sitting, not fucking thinking that he should at least theoretically be able to, and those who are carrying themselves with tremendous responsibility for the launches.
And now we will move smoothly to the engineers and workers. Engineers. The difference between the 1 category and category-free - 3-5 thousands. Without a category - this is a boy after college, the 1 category is you for at least 10 years old.
There is still a difference between the main and auxiliary production. Basically, they still pay extra for harm from 5 to 20%.
To the basic rate of an engineer without a category, which is 16 thousands.
That's what an engineer at KBX is. Just consider yourself, anyway - tears in our time. The level of "free cash" in the normal hypermarket.
Further. Workers. Fitters, installers, mechanics, hydraulics, in general, all workers specialty 6 discharge (and less we do not take), the ceiling - 14 thousands.
Master - plus or minus 20%.
And it is clear that a normal, handy person, and even with experience for such pennies, will not squirrel. On the test the main majority of hard workers from Gremyachiy (nearby village. - R.S.). And there are such shots ... By the way, I noticed that if the drinker is more or less handy. But if the non-drinker and with Gremyachiy - it is generally better to stay away from him, there will be no good. Or look in four eyes, so that something is not screwed up.
We have a mechanic of the 6 category, who only mows the grass all day. Just because his hands exclusively under the scythe are sharpened. And the people work for him. Just because the grass also needs to be mowed. But on the grass in general is a separate topic.
In the 2015 year, we have had a lot of checks in the past years. So, the main task was to whiten, paint, mow and sweep. Expelled all: engineers, workers, heads of sectors ... Heads of departments did not leave unless. In the rain, not in the rain, do not care.
The curbs should be white, the grass should be mown, the asphalt should be swept out, the bushes should be cut into cubes. ALL commissions looked at the sanitary condition of the territory. This was discussed at the planning meetings. This is generally complete ... There would be no way for them to go to the workshops at least once, to see what was going on there.
Then read the comments and quietly shizeeesh. "Burn the branches, saw off emergency and dead trees" ... Everything. Commissions ...
But there will be a separate story about the workshops.
Here Rogozin spoke, blurted out that we are lagging behind the Americans by some amount. It was he who was not in our factory, it is interesting that the curator said after that. Zero would have attributed.
Meanwhile, we are doing what the Americans cannot yet. And fly on our engines. And the French, and the Spaniards, and the Germans. And on the ISS, without us, no one yet. Here's what for now.
And who is this "bye" will cancel? Old people who do not retire, because there is no one else and the morons are crooked, that they leave the old men? Who is leaving now? Here in June they made a reduction. And one more in November will be. And those who I said will remain. With all that it implies. Because they (points to the other interlocutors. - R.C.) horseradish can add up, like one on 16, and the second on 19 thousands to live. With families.
On patriotism to leave? Patriots will be these, in departments with a salary of 60 and above. And what would they not be patriots and patriots? What problems? And we have one problem - to survive, but to find work, in order not to survive, but to live. We want to live in a human way, understand?
I personally understand. Therefore, I will continue the "decoding" and publication of our rather long and somewhat chaotic conversation. Because then there will be another story about the "work" everyday life and management, and the plant, and the test complex. From the first persons. Which are really first, because they assemble and test the engines of "Protons", "Unions", "Hangars". If only because these people sincerely support their enterprise. And they would never leave it themselves. But here they simply survive.
So to be continued. Tomorrow.
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