Another roadmap for normalizing Israeli-Palestinian security relations prepared

A group of American and Israeli experts prepared another roadmap for resolving the conflict between Israel and Palestine. The program was presented on the eve of the New American Security Center CNAS (Washington, USA). The new roadmap involves the phased building of relations between Israel and Palestine in the field of various types of interaction for the common fight against terrorism: on land, at sea, in the air, and also in terms of radio-electronic interaction.

Press office CNAS Reports that both military and civilian specialists took part in creating the roadmap program. One of the project leaders is Ilan Goldenberg, who identifies the main problem in the relationship between Israel and Palestine. According to the author of the roadmap, the Israelis will never recognize Palestine if there is a terrorist threat from it, and the Palestinians will never perceive Israel as a normal neighboring state, due to the idea of ​​permanent occupation and the invasion of Israeli soldiers.

The main directions for implementation listed in the program are as follows:
building a multi-level system in which Israel reserves the right to protect its borders and interests;

significant modernization of the security system and infrastructure;

creation of joint operational centers and data exchange mechanisms between the parties, which will increase the percentage of mutual awareness of the security situation (will increase the level of security of the Israelis and minimize the likelihood of Israeli security forces invading the Palestinian territories).

And, perhaps, the most interesting point - inviting American specialists to monitor and conduct joint operations in the Jordan River area.

According to the estimates of the developers of the roadmap, the implementation of their program will cost "less than 5 billion dollars." According to the authors of the roadmap, this is “not so much for the cost of peace.”

Comments

[oldseaman1957]

A map is a map, and a mentality is a mentality! As the Palestinians hated the Jews, they will continue to hate it. Though they are rich. So you will not envy Israel - all life is under arms ...

[Приговор]

Well, we must pay tribute to Israel, during its short existence, he made a lot of efforts to be hated by ALL neighbors and the Arab world as a whole ..;))

[oldseaman1957]

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Israel must be respected

- Well, if you delve into history, ALL are good!

[Приговор]

I agree. But, Israel, as always turned out to be on top ..;))) Even in this matter ..;)

[Chisayna]

But in (in) Ukraine, there were no Arabs, but the Khmelnytsky pogrom was. And in 1939, there were no Arabs in Poland and Germany then. Maybe it's not about neighbors and Arabs.

[marshes]

Quote: Chisain

But in (in) Ukraine, there were no Arabs, but the Khmelnytsky pogrom was. And in 1939, there were no Arabs in Poland and Germany then. Maybe it's not about neighbors and Arabs.

About the Khmelnitsky pogrom, maybe write an article.
So friendship with Khmelnitsky, if that ....
Goblin, what is serious from western Siberia, or did the movie remember?

[Maki Avellevich]

But in (in) Ukraine, there were no Arabs, but the Khmelnitsky pogrom was

"But" the Bartholomew night, Jews were not observed and the pogrom was

[3officer]

The normal state for the Arab world is either a dictatorship a la Saddam Hussein or the everyday life of modern Aleppo, there is no third.

[MACCABI-TLV]

Quote: Sentence

made a lot of efforts to be hated by ALL neighbors and the Arab world as a whole ..;))

In total, he refused to be destroyed ... and not some kind of mass of efforts.

[rabbi's pais]

Quote: oldseaman1957

So you will not envy Israel - all life is under arms ...

They themselves chose such a life. So there is nothing to worry about them. And then, the non-Jewish generation of Jews is more far-sighted than those who lived 70 years ago and realized that they should rely on themselves for security and keep several passports under their mattress. case, so to speak.

[Maki Avellevich]

keep several passports under the mattress. Just in case, so to speak

Weapons must be kept and not passports.

[rabbi's pais]

Quote: Maki Avellievich

Weapons must be kept

in a plastic bag inside the push drain tank

[Chisayna]

Yes, you had to live on your own land and defend your land. Instead of wandering around foreign countries and lands. And when "they" remembered that there is somewhere a piece of desert, and former relatives already live there.

[rabbi's pais]

Yes, what kind of Arabs are their former relatives. One of them is a Semitic tribe. The Slavs are not too friendly with each other, however, this does not mean that common roots must be forgotten or denied.

[Amnestied]

Quote: oldseaman1957

So you will not envy Israel - all life is under arms ...

Gee-s, the fact is that the word "Catastrophe" means in their West and in the BV in particular - the Holocaust. And to inherit vi still, yes, they did not care in what order - physical ASSET. the occupied, privatized from suckers, physical territory (ie the State of the Peoples ... of Palestine). By the way, subsequent attempts to put the stamp of Pestuplenie, i.e. Anti-Semitism, you can't do this, because these attempts are banal - banal))

[vorobey]

but without the Americans, well. no way ... now Israel will invite to his garden ... if the Lord wants to teach someone a lesson, he sends hurricanes and tornadoes to them, and if he wants to punish someone, he sends Americans to them ...

[atalef]

Quote: vorobey

but without the Americans, well. no way ...

Hi, Sasha.
The most interesting thing is that we (about the next 15001 roadmap ) learn from VO.
All bullshit. there is nothing and will not be until then. until the palms (at least 0 do not understand themselves, otherwise you can bet if Hamas (Gaza) and Fatah (West Bank) sit down to negotiate with each other --- how long will they overdo each other? In 4 minutes or 5?

[vorobey]

Quote: atalef

Hi, Sasha.

Quote: atalef

how much time will they overdo each other? In 4 minutes or 5?

and will you do with the Americans in the area of ​​the Jordan River? baptize or crop?

[atalef]

Quote: vorobey

Quote: atalef

Hi, Sasha.

Quote: atalef

how much time will they overdo each other? In 4 minutes or 5?

and will you do with the Americans in the area of ​​the Jordan River? baptize or crop?

With the Americans then? With such friends (in politics), enemies are no longer necessary

[Amnestied]

Quote: vorobey

and will you do with the Americans in the area of ​​the Jordan River? baptize or crop?

When, as you put it, "many" like you ONE in particular, think of the convolutions of sciatic nerves cellulite and write their comments from the damp basements of the synagogue - it's even too late to get baptized. And where do all these descendants of the unfinished "harsh" mishling of the Third Reich go if, against the background of another noisy gevalt, specially for them the chaplains are formed in silence - a global Ethics for suckers: "While the bones of thousands of victims languish under their feet, it is our duty to speak, share and tell the victims of Zionism the truth of their Nazi past. In order to allow our children learn your history in all its glory, but also its most embarrassing moments "- gy-s))

[igor67]

Quote: vorobey

Quote: atalef

Hi, Sasha.

Quote: atalef

how much time will they overdo each other? In 4 minutes or 5?

and will you do with the Americans in the area of ​​the Jordan River? baptize or crop?

Sanya in the area of ​​the Jordan River You can be baptized to fish, plump, swim, nothing more

[MACCABI-TLV]

Quote: igor67

Sanya in the area of ​​the Jordan River You can be baptized to fish, plump, swim, nothing more

Almost perfect sequence.

[svp67]

Quote: atalef

All bullshit. there is nothing and will not be until then. while the palaces (at least 0 can’t figure it out on their own, otherwise you can bet if Hamas (Gaza) and Fatah (West Bank) sit down to negotiate with each other --- how long will they overdo each other? In 4 minutes or 5 ?

Right, otherwise

Group American and Israeli experts prepared another roadmap for resolving the conflict between Israel and Palestine.

Until Israel and Palestine begin to agree among themselves, as long as it is hard to believe, NOTHING will happen

[Kyrgyz]

Quote: atalef

All bullshit. there is nothing and will not be until then. while the palaces (at least 0 do not deal with themselves

Which means no, judging by the article a minimum of 5 yards per world))) with such investments, the further the world the fuller the pockets)))

[Coconut]

while rats dig tunnels there will be no normalization

[Приговор]

Good luck. I will be glad if it is possible to resolve the "conflict". But, something tells me that for the success of such projects it is necessary to participate in its development of another "side". Palestine ...;)))) And most importantly: Israel's recognition of an independent Palestinian state is not heard. Everything else - the usual blah blah blah about nothing ..;))

[atalef]

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cottages. I will be glad if it is possible to resolve the "conflict"

fail and no initiative plays any role.

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But, something tells me that for the success of such projects it is necessary to participate in its development of one more "side". Palestine

Palestine? And who do you mean? Fatah or Hamas?

[Приговор]

I mean the representatives of Mahmoud Abbas, as the head of the Palestinian state. And whom exactly he considers it necessary to send for the development of such important initiatives, you must admit that it is not our business with you. Let them understand within themselves. Without our advice ..;))))

[atalef]

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I mean the representatives of Mahmoud Abbas, as the head of the Palestinian state. And whom exactly he considers it necessary to send for the development of such important initiatives, you must admit that it is not our business with you. Let them understand within themselves. Without our advice ..;))))

The powers of the Abbas (as the head) have long been over, but he isn’t going to the polls, and how? He will come to Gaza, he will not have time to take a couple of steps, he will cut off his Hamas eggs there

[Приговор]

Again, it’s not for us to organize the elections for the Palestinians. We have enough of our costs and worries ...;)) If they consider him their head, then health. They must clean up their territories, including Gaza. Even if it will be a civil war and someone will be cut off something. I do not intend to worry about the health of a single Mahmoud, and especially Abbas ..;))) All that a normal person can be interested in is:
1. That the people had their own country.
2. No threat came from this country.
3. That the country be completely self-sufficient and independent (I do not want to send humanitarian aid to anyone).

[Amnestied]

Quote: Sentence

Palestine ...;)))) And most importantly: Israel does not hear the recognition of an independent Palestinian state. Everything else - the usual blah blah blah blah about anything ..;))

Since the final decision in favor of the "Yemenis mother" of the Palestinian issue is clearly delaying, and their hopes for a peaceful settlement or at least a return to a relatively normal situation at the expense of suckers in the process of milking the countries of the BV are pushed back into the indefinitely distant future, cat gnomes are beginning to suspect that and Judas himself may soon fall into the crosshairs of the Anglo-American scope. Recently, with a swift jack, there have been signs that this is exactly how it is "- oops, like wow! Nanai boys of Judah are starting to shoot dgug dguzhka, - like aristocratic members of the Club of Rogue Suicides, today the duelists will win, definitely!

[3officer]

"Brothers, don't shoot each other ..

[Pinkie F.]

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Brothers do not shoot at each other ..

funny about "lads"

[3officer]

Brothers are not brothers, but neighbors after all, and they say they don’t choose neighbors (here either by moving themselves or moving neighbors

[Pinkie F.]

Quote: 3officer

Brothers are not brothers, but neighbors after all

no way) Palaces of Jews consider squatters. Neighborhood is not and never will be. Yes, the Arabs are not particularly keen on him - sponsors will lose interest.

[3officer]

Squatters usually "live" in abandoned or "no-man's" housing, so the Arabs should have better look after their property if they think it is

[marshes]

It will be good if I’m in Ashdod, the sea, I won’t look around. I’m fucking, I’m already in touch with the pictures from the sea, even though I don’t like seal rest. For me everything would die out

[ALABAY45]

"... inviting American specialists ..."
All! Key phrase ... The article can be canceled, sense-zero! Although, what was there, after all, about "5 billion" ?!

[atalef]

Quote: ALABAY45

"... inviting American specialists ..."
All! Key phrase ... The article can be canceled, sense-zero! Although, what was there, after all, about "5 billion" ?!

In this I agree
Well, let's start with the question. who invited them 7
well. and the most important anecdote is AMERICAN SPECIALISTS
experts on arranging a mess in BV ,. If only.

[APASUS]

Quote: atalef

experts on arranging a mess in BV ,. If only

Good evening.
You will not share your thoughts on how to solve problems with Palestine, how do you see this solution and if the general mood in the country is possible to solve the problem

[Maki Avellevich]

You will not share your thoughts on how to solve problems with Palestine, how do you see this solution and if the general mood in the country is possible to solve the problem

with your permission I’ll insert my one and a half penny


We have an Antagonistic game everywhere on BV, that is, a zero-sum game. in all conflicts, only one player must remain.

Claims for a compromise is not a problem. not in Syria, not in Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Lebanon, Israel, etc. etc.
such a carrot.

[APASUS]

Quote: Maki Avellievich

We have an Antagonistic game everywhere on BV, that is, a zero-sum game. in all conflicts, only one player must remain.

If I understand your point correctly, you are the only way out. Only then do the participating countries find consensus

[atalef]

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If I understood your point correctly, you are the only way out

War is the easiest way out

Quote: APASUS

Only then do participating countries find consensus

Actually, I think (in fact) exit 2
1. War
2. The UN Security Council develops a proct and forces both sides to accept them.
It will not be possible to agree all the same and, first of all, because of the palaces of the shopping mall, sitting on the neck of the whole world and screaming how poor they are is much easier than removing garbage on the territory and building industry.

[Pinkie F.]

Quote: atalef

The UN is developing a proct and forcing both sides to accept them.

"Forces"? Sash, such imperatives are too much for the League of Nations-2, I think, in this particular case.
Point 1 is more realistic.

[atalef]

Quote: APASUS

You will not share your thoughts on how to solve problems with Palestine, as you see this decision

First of all, let them agree among themselves - without this, it’s also not worth starting.
Then the exchange of territories - the Arabs to the Arbs. Jews to Jews.
We give them territories - Um Elfachem, Taibe, eastern Jerusalem - we will take equivalent territory in Judea and Samaria.
Palestinian refugees can only return within the Palestinian Authority ....
Palestinian autonomy is a demilitarized state.
Everything and the flag in their hands.

[MACCABI-TLV]

Quote: atalef

Then the exchange of territories - the Arabs to the Arbs. Jews to Jews.
We give them territories - Um Elfachem, Taibe, eastern Jerusalem - we will take equivalent territory in Judea and Samaria.

Of course, I am all you can FOR, but the Arabs from the triangle will be much strongly against. Depriving them of their current standard of living, and the institution of national insurance, is tantamount to the beginning of a new intifada.

[Castor]

Quote: atalef

experts on arranging a mess in BV ,. If only.

If only on BV ...

[Orakul2000]

And my opinion is that if you decide to introduce a new initiative, then at least along with the Americans (or better, to be honest, without them), invite Russian intermediaries. We can disagree with Russia, even sometimes bark, but you need to be blind so as not to see that the VVP administration is really trying to calm down our region. In contrast to our overseas "allies" (a damn fist itches), who create a situation of controlled chaos to solve their own political and domestic economic problems. Personally, I think that for a long time we need to cooperate more with Russia, even if I show us a fist because of an okey. Stop being politically impotent.

[tilix]

You will still be surprised, but there was a time and the Russians were in Gaza, like an international patrol. So what? And nothing.
And so, yes, another American Institute has prepared a briefing that both sides have security claims.
No, they would be engaged in Syria or resettlement to Europe, after all, epoch-making events. So everyone climbs and climbs to us. And they forgot that because of their "breaks" Gaza lies under Hamas.

[marshes]

Quote: tilix

You will still be surprised

You are for Kazakhstan people, do without a visa. And you will be surprised. You can then beat the tambourine that without a visa with a "Muslim" country. By the way, you get under 15 days.
Former holidays in May, the nieces were great, so they left the woman ten thousand, my uncle was crazy.

[tilix]

You are for Kazakhstan, do without a visa

Yalla, go ahead !!!

[marshes]

Quote: tilix

Yalla, go ahead !!!

At past holidays, girls, nieces did not take such photos, they went to a woman in Ashdod, the carcass beach was light ... Here they are in niqabs, or how to dress a burqa. Fillings.
They don’t want to become civilians. They must be served. In the National Assembly, dad may find a place, the eldest is already with her husband.

[RedBaron]

Initiative Initiative Initiative

[A. Privalov]

I didn’t want to upset the respectable public, but I dare to remind you that Yasser Arafat still in 70 didn’t have an extra pair of underpants for replacement, and after his death in 2004, his wife already managed the amount of 14 billion green.

At one time, the "Marshall Plan" in a fairly short period of time raised Europe destroyed by the world war from ruins. If you count the money sent by the world sponsors of the PNA, then it is easy to make sure that from the mid-90s to the present day, the FOURTH "Marshall Plan", perfectly mastered by the local elite, ends.

In early 2000, the Daily Telegraph reported how a group of British hackers had broken into the PLO network and discovered that its management had invested a total of $ 50 billion in various foreign firms. A list of companies whose shares belonged to Arafat and his entourage were also published. Among them are Mercedes-Benz, the airlines of the Maldives and Guinea-Bissau, a Greek shipping company, banana plantations and diamond mines in Africa. So 5 billion is a ridiculous amount. Abu Mazen and K will master it as two files to send.

Well, what about the world in our area ... What kind of world can we talk about, if the USSR, and now the Russian Federation has already 50, for years, feeds all sorts of terrorist shelups with a generous hand?