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The construction of 2 patrol ships will begin at the Admiralty Shipyards

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"Admiralty Shipyards" in the fall will begin the construction of 2-x of the latest ice-class patrol ships, reports RIA News the message of the general director of the enterprise Alexander Buzakov.


The construction of 2 patrol ships will begin at the Admiralty Shipyards


“We are currently designing. Construction (will begin) approximately in 4 of the month, on the arrival of the metal ",
said the general director, specifying that "ships must be handed over to the customer before the end of 2020 g."

Earlier it was reported that the Ministry of Defense issued a contract to the Admiralty Shipyards for the construction of 2-s ships of the 23550 project in the interests of the Russian Navy.

As noted at the company, “the 23550 ice class patrol ship is a fundamentally new vessel combining the qualities of a tugboat, icebreaker and patrol ship.”



According to the experts, “the vessel can sail in the tropics and arctic waters, overcoming ice up to 1,5 meters thick”.

The set of characteristics of the ship has no analogues in the world.
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  1. poquello
    poquello 30 May 2016 19: 27
    +11
    The set of characteristics of the ship has no analogues in the world.

    waiting for characteristics
    1. Wiruz
      Wiruz 30 May 2016 19: 39
      +4
      As I understand it, patrolmen of pr.22160 will no longer build for the Northern Fleet? Right, no reason. The combat capabilities of these two ships are almost equal, only pr.23550 and the patrol officer, and the icebreaker, and the tugboat all rolled into one. Yes, and imprisoned under harsh conditions.
      1. KnightRider
        KnightRider 30 May 2016 20: 02
        +9
        Quote: Wiruz
        As I understand it, patrolmen of pr.22160 will no longer build for the Northern Fleet? Right, no reason. The combat capabilities of these two ships are almost equal, only pr.23550 and the patrol officer, and the icebreaker, and the tugboat all rolled into one. Yes, and imprisoned under harsh conditions.

        23550 is much larger
        1. Wiruz
          Wiruz 30 May 2016 20: 14
          0
          23550 is much larger

          I was not talking about mass, but about the composition of weapons, about the autonomy and range of the ship.
      2. Victor_1
        Victor_1 30 May 2016 21: 33
        +2
        Build and will continue to build. Do not walk icebreakers in the Black Sea. 22160 has other tasks. Same as 22800.
      3. The comment was deleted.
      4. Alex_Rarog
        Alex_Rarog 30 May 2016 21: 35
        +1
        I agree smartly get three different classes in one case!
    2. APASUS
      APASUS 30 May 2016 19: 44
      +10
      Quote: poquello
      waiting for characteristics

      It should be a photo, only need to increase
      1. weksha50
        weksha50 30 May 2016 20: 58
        0
        Quote: APASUS
        It should be a photo, only need to increase



        Confuses the characteristics of the engines ... What, again, not ours ??? Or have I poorly reviewed - the font is very small ???
        1. APASUS
          APASUS 31 May 2016 19: 50
          0
          Quote: weksha50
          Quote: APASUS
          It should be a photo, only need to increase



          Confuses the characteristics of the engines ... What, again, not ours ??? Or have I poorly reviewed - the font is very small ???

          The font there is beautifully expanding.
          It is not known who will supply the propellers, although Zvezdochka has already announced the start of production of DRK-1200 propellers. There are a lot of companies producing propellers in the world, for example, Steerprop Ltd. or the same SCHOTTEL. For example, if the Germans from SCHOTTEL can balk, then they have a joint venture production in Suzhou (China)
    3. Inok10
      Inok10 30 May 2016 19: 47
      +5
      Quote: poquello
      The set of characteristics of the ship has no analogues in the world.

      waiting for characteristics

      ... voiced such:
      Displacement: about 6800 t.
      length - 114 m, width - 18 m, draft 6 m.
      Maximum travel speed: around 18 nodes
      Cruising range: about 6000 miles.
      Autonomy: 60 days.
      Crew: 49 people + 47 extra.
      The vessel has the ice class Arc6 and is capable of breaking ice up to 1.5 meters thick.
      The vessel is capable of carrying 2 patrol boats of Project 03160 Raptor.
      The ship has a runway and a hangar for a helicopter.
      The armament of the patrol vessel consists of a 100-mm gun mount A190-01 “Universal”.
      Two full-rotary Azipod-type throttle and thrusters provide the vessel with good maneuverability. To carry out loading and unloading and rescue operations, the vessel has two cargo cranes (2x28 tons) and a towing device (with a pulling force of at least 80 tons), a Ka-27 helicopter ... hi
      P.S. ... ahead of the bug APASUS + ...
      1. family tree
        family tree 30 May 2016 20: 14
        +1
        Actually, the ice class, this is Pomeranian Kochi, take as a basis and do for small
      2. Orionvit
        Orionvit 30 May 2016 22: 40
        +1
        The speed of 18 knots is not enough, at least 25, it would be normal.
      3. APASUS
        APASUS 31 May 2016 19: 51
        0
        Quote: Inok10
        P.S. ... ahead of the beetle APASUS + ...

        Well, I’m also a bug ........ thank you for not being called a poop laughing
    4. Tersky
      Tersky 30 May 2016 21: 50
      +4
      Quote: poquello
      waiting for characteristics

      Michurin once noted that you do not have to wait for mercy from nature .... The performance characteristics of these ships are in the public domain Wike
      1. poquello
        poquello 30 May 2016 22: 48
        0
        Quote: Tersky
        Quote: poquello
        waiting for characteristics

        Michurin once noticed that you do not have to wait for mercy from nature .... The performance characteristics of these ships are freely available on ...

        Well, yes, well, as it were
        “Currently, the design is underway ...
      2. Michael67
        Michael67 30 May 2016 23: 07
        0
        It should be nuclear.
        Otherwise, it will not trample on the ice.
        And then you can count on speed.
        A 02 pcs. just for now - probably due to the fact that vigorous are planned.
        For expensive.
  2. Banishing liberoids
    Banishing liberoids 30 May 2016 19: 28
    +5
    Will there be two? There should be at least five of them at worst. Or two - this is just the beginning - will check how they will show themselves in the sea, and then, taking into account all the identified "diseases" and still build?
    1. Wiruz
      Wiruz 30 May 2016 19: 40
      0
      We have ordered two so far. How many of them will be in the future is not known.
  3. LÄRZ
    LÄRZ 30 May 2016 19: 36
    +6
    Deputy Admiral Alexander Fedotenkov, Deputy Commander-in-Chief of the Russian Navy, said that the laying of new corvettes for the 20380 project is planned for this year. This year, the laying of 15 ships and vessels is planned. “Among them is the laying of two more small missile ships 22800, corvettes of the 20380 project, patrol ships of 22160 and a fundamentally new ice-class patrol ship of the 23550 project, combining the qualities of a tugboat, an icebreaker and a patrol vessel,” he listed. At the same time, Fedotenkov did not specify the place and date of the bookmarks. Also at the Admiralty Shipyards, the construction of the new generation icebreaker Ilya Muromets will continue. TASS Source: http://bastion-karpenko.ru/23550-patrol-ship/ MTC "BASTION" AVKarpenko
    Hmm, the plans are "huge". Is the funding normal expected?
  4. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 30 May 2016 19: 42
    -16%
    "According to experts," the ship can navigate in the tropics and arctic waters, breaking ice up to 1,5 meters thick "

    This reminds me: "Baba is good, even as a prostitute, even if married, just buy it." Gentlemen, I'll ask you more seriously.
    1. Wiruz
      Wiruz 30 May 2016 19: 50
      +3
      In "I will ask" the second vowel - "o" hi

      And what doesn’t suit you? Do you know a lot of ships that can go to the seas at -50 and at +50?
      1. Dart2027
        Dart2027 30 May 2016 21: 25
        +1
        Quote: Wiruz
        You know a lot of ships that can go both at -50 and at +50 by sea

        It’s not possible to build something, but I think that they will only go to the north. The point of driving an icebreaker to the tropics? I think about +50 it's just talking.
        1. 31rus2
          31rus2 30 May 2016 22: 42
          +4
          Dear, you are wrong, did you forget Antarctica? It was the Russian icebreaker that saved the ship, I don’t remember which country it was sandwiched in Antarctica and it was going there through the tropics, the world is small and it is not known what will happen tomorrow
        2. poquello
          poquello 30 May 2016 22: 56
          0
          Quote: Dart2027
          Quote: Wiruz
          You know a lot of ships that can go both at -50 and at +50 by sea

          It’s not possible to build something, but I think that they will only go to the north. The point of driving an icebreaker to the tropics? I think about +50 it's just talking.

          here it’s just an interesting question, the icebreaker then has a certain balance in the hull to crawl onto the ice, maybe the equipment was laid out so that the specialization turned out to be natural
    2. spravochnik
      spravochnik 30 May 2016 22: 42
      +3
      This reminds me: "Baba is good, even as a prostitute, even if married, just buy it." Gentlemen, I'll ask you more seriously.


      And you can be more literate. So many mistakes in two simple sentences.
  5. nrex
    nrex 30 May 2016 19: 44
    0
    The most pleasant words: "In terms of the totality of its characteristics, the ship has no analogues in the world." If we do, then only the best in the world !!!
    1. Wiruz
      Wiruz 30 May 2016 19: 48
      +3
      I wouldn’t be so optimistic, our journalists are inserting this whole phrase. Not so long ago, on the Star there was a report from the tests of one of pr.11356, so it turns out that Calm-1 also "has no analogues in the world" wassat
    2. KnightRider
      KnightRider 30 May 2016 20: 05
      +9
      Quote: nrex
      The most pleasant words: "In terms of the totality of its characteristics, the ship has no analogues in the world." If we do, then only the best in the world !!!

      Do not believe the reporters! laughing
  6. Wiruz
    Wiruz 30 May 2016 19: 44
    0
    I don’t understand: why the hell are we constantly depicting Club-K complexes on many of our ships? And so with the States we are constantly exchanging mutual accusations of violating the agreement on the liquidation of the INF Treaty, and here we are once again demonstrating that Club-K not only exists, but is also in service.

    Wouldn’t it be easier to just plug in the UKKS module?
    1. Maxom75
      Maxom75 30 May 2016 20: 06
      +5
      Are Club-K ballistic missiles? in my opinion it’s winged, but there are no restrictions on them.
      1. Wiruz
        Wiruz 30 May 2016 20: 13
        -1
        Are Club-K ballistic missiles? in my opinion it’s winged, but there are no restrictions on them.

        You are mistaken, as it is. The restrictions apply to both ballistic and cruise missiles with a range of less than 5500 km.
        1. Maxom75
          Maxom75 30 May 2016 21: 09
          0
          Does the USA have long-range cruise missiles? And remind Tomahawk range? The United States has the most missiles and the longest flight range of 2500km. So what will the USA say there?
          1. Wiruz
            Wiruz 30 May 2016 21: 30
            -5
            Does the USA have long-range cruise missiles? And remind Tomahawk range? The United States has the most missiles and the longest flight range of 2500km. So what will the USA say there?

            It has long been suggested that moderators introduce mandatory registration of each new user when registering on the site for knowledge of the INF Treaty. Then you can take notes:

            According to the agreement on the elimination of short and medium-range missiles, Russia and the United States undertake to withdraw from armament and no longer produce land-based short and medium-range missiles

            You can read the last two words several times. That is, the Tomahawks, Caliber, Skalp-Naval, and other cruise missiles of air, surface and underwater basing do not fall under the ban.
            But here is one "but" with which I started. Russia has already made it clear more than once that the Club-K complexes (I do not know the non-export name) are not only produced, but may also be in service with us. If such a container is on the deck of a warship, then there are no problems, but the very fact that similar containers "with filling" can stand both on land and in ports, and a hundred kilometers from the White House, all this is a great opportunity for our "partners" accuse us of violating the INF Treaty (which we are so brazenly violating bully ).
            1. Maxom75
              Maxom75 30 May 2016 23: 18
              0
              and where does the container and patrol ship? It seems that he has the function of a non-transport ship, or am I mistaken? And as far as I understand, the missiles will be based in its deck installations, so they are sea-based missiles and we are not violating the treaty. I know the contract, I read and I also know about the clause on basing. Just do not understand what the problem is? Put the containers on the old barges and take them out for a joke in the Volga delta, Don estuaries and here you have sea-based installations. And we believe such barges as mushrooms.
              1. Wiruz
                Wiruz 30 May 2016 23: 39
                0
                Michael, either I am explaining incorrectly, or you are paying the wrong attention. Read my last paragraph again. If we install Club-K complexes on ships, then they are accepted for service, then we use 99% of the pounds on land, so we violate the INF Treaty.

                Chet, I'm tired of explaining ....
                1. stoker
                  stoker 31 May 2016 05: 18
                  0
                  Quote: Wiruz
                  ... Chet, I'm tired of explaining ....

                  ---

                  "... The complex can be used from ground launch sites, sea, railway and automobile platforms. Anti-ship missiles (3M-54KE, 3M-54KE1, Kh-35UE) and missiles to destroy ground targets (3M-14KE, Kh- 35UE) ... "
                  The range of these missiles is up to 300 km.
                  What bothers you so much?
                  1. Wiruz
                    Wiruz 31 May 2016 10: 30
                    -1
                    What bothers you so much?

                    Drop in Wikipedia less often. 300 km is the maximum range of export missiles hi
                    1. stoker
                      stoker 31 May 2016 12: 10
                      +2
                      Quote: Wiruz
                      What bothers you so much?

                      Drop in Wikipedia less often. 300 km is the maximum range of export missiles hi

                      ---
                      This is official open data. I quoted Wikipedia, but they are also available on other, quite official sites.
                      For example, here:
                      http://topwar.ru/18852-raketnyy-kompleks-club-k-kritika-i-perspektivy.html.
                      Or here:
                      http://army-news.ru/2011/10/kontejnernyj-raketnyj-kompleks-klab-k/
                      Do you have anything to object to, essentially?
                      And let's agree right away - no "advice" in this form. I will decide for myself where and how often I "look".
                      1. Wiruz
                        Wiruz 31 May 2016 12: 42
                        0
                        Yes, this is officially open data, but for export missiles 3M54E, 3M54E1 and 3M14E. They - yes, they do not fly further than 300 km. But non-export Gauges 3M14, just those that were shot at ISIS, have a flight range of about 1600-2600 km. And nothing prevents us from placing them in containers as well. More precisely, it hinders - the INF Treaty. It was from this that I began my discussion hi
                      2. stoker
                        stoker 31 May 2016 16: 11
                        0
                        Quote: Wiruz
                        Yes, this is officially open data, but for export missiles 3M54E, 3M54E1 and 3M14E. They - yes, they do not fly further than 300 km. But non-export Gauges 3M14, just those that were shot at ISIS, have a flight range of about 1600-2600 km. And nothing prevents us from placing them in containers as well. More precisely, it hinders - the INF Treaty. It was from this that I began my discussion hi

                        ---
                        You have some strange argument. KR "Tomahawk" has a range of 2500 km. Its length is less than 7m. "... And nothing prevents them from placing them in containers as well ..." In 40-foot containers.
                        So what?
                      3. Wiruz
                        Wiruz 31 May 2016 18: 25
                        0
                        You have some strange argument. KR "Tomahawk" has a range of 2500 km. Its length is less than 7m. "... And nothing prevents them from placing them in containers as well ..." In 40-foot containers.
                        So what?

                        Have you heard anything about the American strike missile system disguised as a regular sea container? Me not.
                      4. stoker
                        stoker 31 May 2016 19: 44
                        +1
                        Quote: Wiruz
                        You have some strange argument. KR "Tomahawk" has a range of 2500 km. Its length is less than 7m. "... And nothing prevents them from placing them in containers as well ..." In 40-foot containers.
                        So what?

                        Have you heard anything about the American strike missile system disguised as a regular sea container? Me not.

                        ---
                        Me neither. Have you heard about real launches of Russian cruise missiles with the help of "Club K" with a flight range of over 500 km? Me not.
                      5. Wiruz
                        Wiruz 31 May 2016 19: 54
                        0
                        Me neither. Have you heard about real launches of Russian cruise missiles with the help of "Club K" with a flight range of over 500 km? Me not.

                        Why hear about them? The very fact that Russia is armed with the Club-K with Caliber missiles is already a reason to accuse it of violating the INF Treaty. Or are our "partners" so naive and will believe that we only put Club-K on ships?

                        Or do you think that those 8-meter calibers with which they fired at ISIS will not fit into such a container? So the "partners" have nothing to worry about?
                      6. stoker
                        stoker 31 May 2016 21: 05
                        +1
                        [/ Quote]
                        ... And why hear about them? ... [/ quote]
                        ---
                        Good answer.
                        But in the text of the INF Treaty, the knowledge of which is the subject of your undisguised pride, there is not a word about sea containers. Neither about 20, nor about 40, nor even about 45 feet. Generally, not about any else. Therefore, the presence of a launch complex in Russia mounted inside such a container cannot contradict this Treaty.
                        As for the worries and worries of "your partners" - I can not help you. I'm not a psychologist or a sex therapist. Maybe they have age-related erectile dysfunction and therefore a pessimistic view of the world.
                      7. Wiruz
                        Wiruz 1 June 2016 09: 29
                        0
                        I say again, the fact that we put the club-k on the ships (which is not prohibited by the contract), gives reason to assume that we put them and not on the ships. Who knows, maybe seaports around the world are teeming with such surprises ...
                      8. Wiruz
                        Wiruz 1 June 2016 09: 29
                        0
                        I say again, the fact that we put the club-k on the ships (which is not prohibited by the contract), gives reason to assume that we put them and not on the ships. Who knows, maybe seaports around the world are teeming with such surprises ...
  • Bochik
    Bochik 30 May 2016 23: 29
    0
    You are mistaken, as it is. The restrictions apply to both ballistic and cruise missiles with a range of less than 5500 km.

    But not sea-based ...
  • megafair
    megafair 30 May 2016 19: 49
    +3
    “Project 23550 ice class patrol ship is a fundamentally new vessel, combining the qualities of a tugboat, icebreaker and patrol ship”
    - Hello to all those who consider the Russian Federation a "regional power";) We have only 0 pind5s, we have 37 icebreakers of various classes, 8 more are planned, these are icebreakers, and plus such marvelous multifunctional ships!
    http://www.sdelanounas.ru/blogs/37821
    1. Wiruz
      Wiruz 30 May 2016 19: 58
      +3
      Hmmm ... Not that I was from the "pro-Western camp" ... Icebreakers are cool! But let's count other ships too! How many aircraft carriers, destroyers, UDC, BDK, frigates, nuclear submarines do we have? And at the "pindos" And now let's compare the average age of our and "theirs" ships! Plus, if the forces remain, let's compare the combat capabilities ...

      Of course, calling our country a "regional power" is stupid, but it would be even more stupid to call it a "great sea / ocean power".

      Although, it’s purely in the Arctic waters, we have more advantages than the United States hi

      PS And now, I’m waiting for your stinging sub-flag about my flag laughing
      1. LÄRZ
        LÄRZ 30 May 2016 20: 19
        +2
        Quote: Wiruz
        . And now, I’m waiting for your stinging sub-flagging about my flag.
        Hello, Romanian-Kazakh American! Are you still wandering around the world?
        1. Wiruz
          Wiruz 30 May 2016 20: 22
          +2
          Hello, Romanian-Kazakh American! Are you still wandering around the world?

          Good day! hi Since it’s already impossible to travel, I rejoice for myself as virtual. Fortunately, the provider allows.
          1. vanavatny
            vanavatny 30 May 2016 21: 18
            +3
            laughing hi Pavlodar drinks Bestuzhev street, house 14, apartment 172
            1. Wiruz
              Wiruz 30 May 2016 21: 40
              0
              Bestuzhev street, house 14, apartment 172

              Yes, that's all. Got it winked I won’t talk about politics on the phone anymore hi
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      2. megafair
        megafair 30 May 2016 20: 32
        0
        Quote: Wiruz
        PS And now, I’m waiting for your stinging sub-flag about my flag
        Hehe, hold:
        Quote: Klitschko
        He painted himself in those colors in which he painted himself
        laughing
  • Donlomakin
    Donlomakin 30 May 2016 19: 50
    +2
    When the division of the Arctic begins, they will not be superfluous.
    1. weksha50
      weksha50 30 May 2016 21: 16
      +1
      Quote: Donlomakin
      When the sharing of the Arctic, they will not be superfluous.


      The sharing, in fact, has long been going on ...

      But Russia, thank God, has good powers in the Arctic and is building up them ...
  • BOB044
    BOB044 30 May 2016 19: 53
    +2
    Let's wait and see what happens. I hope that it really will be "unparalleled in the world.
  • Kulneff2009
    Kulneff2009 30 May 2016 20: 01
    +1
    Good news! But two, it’s still not enough.
    1. ty60
      ty60 30 May 2016 20: 28
      +1
      This is the first pancake. In the process of trial operation, improvements are inevitable. After a larger batch.
  • masiya
    masiya 30 May 2016 20: 08
    +1
    Oh, sorry for the years ... after all, it did not work out to get into the naval school, my eyesight pumped up, but I graduated from the naval department of the Polytechnic University with honors, the head of the department himself, caperang alone persuaded him to enter the active fleet in the early eighties, to a submarine in the North, but to a boat didn’t go, maybe it’s right there "Kursk" and further down the list ... And now it would be like returning everything so maybe it was necessary ..., new ships are new trends .. only youth cannot be returned ...
  • Igor V
    Igor V 30 May 2016 20: 36
    0
    And the food is a dovetail. smile
  • VladimS
    VladimS 30 May 2016 20: 37
    +1
    Quote: Wiruz
    I would not be so optimistic, our magazines ...


    So you are not an optimist. And clearly demonstrate it here! wink Peace, friendship, kvass!
    1. Wiruz
      Wiruz 30 May 2016 21: 10
      -2
      Better to be a young pessimist than an old optimist winked
      1. Altona
        Altona 30 May 2016 22: 18
        -1
        Quote: Wiruz
        Better to be a young pessimist

        --------------------
        Well, you yourself wrote nonsense. You yourself understood what? Youth is not a time to lose heart and pick sores. You doubt it, throw a nafig and find a more suitable business. Than to sit and drive yourself into a depra.
        1. Wiruz
          Wiruz 30 May 2016 23: 31
          0
          Well, you yourself wrote nonsense. You yourself understood what? Youth is not a time to lose heart and pick sores. You doubt it, throw a nafig and find a more suitable business. Than to sit and drive yourself into a depra.

          I'm too sober to argue about pessimism and skepticism coming with age bully
  • Altona
    Altona 30 May 2016 20: 39
    -3
    Smaller than Zumwalt, but no worse ...
    1. Wiruz
      Wiruz 30 May 2016 21: 13
      -1
      It’s like Marshal already, it’s not the first year on the site ... And they wrote such a cheap and stupid comment that even I was ashamed of you sad
      1. Altona
        Altona 30 May 2016 21: 36
        -1
        Quote: Wiruz
        And they wrote such a cheap and stupid comment that even I felt ashamed of you

        -------------------------
        I wrote what I think. Your comments are absolutely useless to me ...
        1. gispanec
          gispanec 30 May 2016 22: 41
          0
          [quote = Altona] Less than Zumwalt, but no worse .. [/ quote
          is it worse than that ?? .. strike weapons? ... or seaworthiness? ... how can one compare the little finger and pipisku ?? ... t-34 and merkavu3 ??? that 134 and fu-22 ???
          [quote = Altona] I wrote what I think [/ quote]
          it is strange that you succeed ....
          1. Altona
            Altona 30 May 2016 22: 55
            -1
            [quote = gispanec] [quote = Altona] Less than Zumwalt, but no worse .. [/ quote
            is it worse than that ?? .. strike weapons? ... or seaworthiness? ... how can one compare the little finger and pipisku ?? ... t-34 and merkavu3 ??? that 134 and fu-22 ???
            [quote = Altona] I wrote what I think [/ quote]
            it is strange that you succeed .... [/ quote]
            ---------------
            And you so sensible came and decided to be smart to the heap, to remember. How do you manage? You manage to shit in the morning. Isn't it worse? The spinner is standing, the gunners are the same, the speed is worse (18 versus 30), but the ice is bad. In general, this is a carrier that you put in will be, and a missile container too. There is such a concept - "open architecture" is called. But you and the Virus have brains wandering in Kazakhstan, in the Chuy valley area.
            1. Wiruz
              Wiruz 30 May 2016 23: 27
              +3
              The spinner is standing, the gunners are the same, the speed is worse (18 versus 30), but the ice is bad. In general, this is a carrier that you put in will be, and a missile container too. There is such a concept - "open architecture" is called. But you and the Virus have brains wandering around in Kazakhstan, in the Chui Valley area.

              Zamvolt (although I don’t like him, even though he is handsome) has 80 cells of VPU under Tomahawks, PLURs, missile launchers, in the long run and RCC; we have a place for two containers, which gives us 8 Caliber. Although following your logic, with such containers you can force the entire deck.

              Zamvolt has two artillery installations 155mm and two 57mm (I don’t know about the latter). His artillery is capable of beating, if I am not mistaken, at a distance of 80-120 km; our handsome man has nothing but one gun, either 76mm or 100mm.

              About how powerful at the American ship HAK and radar I can not say anything. But obviously, they did not spare the money for the electronics of such a ship. As for the composition of the HOOK and radar of our ship, nothing is known.

              Well and just, without going into details, Zamvolt is a 14-kilot strike destroyer, whose task is to deliver powerful attacks on coastal / naval targets, both with missile and artillery weapons. Our handsome man, as was rightly noted, is just a patrol ship, with the capabilities of an icebreaker, a tugboat, and it can shoot a few missiles.

              We here, in the Chuy Valley, may smoke from morning to night, but even drug addicts didn’t even think of COMPARING THESE SHIPS BECAUSE, since they are representatives of completely different classes, and even more so, to say that our patrolman is no worse than them destroyer. So, Altona, admit why you're so pinched? What do you use? what
            2. gispanec
              gispanec 31 May 2016 10: 22
              +1
              Quote: Altona
              And you so sensible came and decided to be smart to the heap, to remember. How do you manage? You manage to take a shit in the morning. Isn't it worse? The spinner is standing, the gunners are the same, the speed is worse (18 versus 30), but the ice is bad. In general, this is a carrier that you put in will be, and a missile container too. There is such a concept - "open architecture

              wassat fool put 30 containers with a club on a lighter carrier ... place a D30 cannon on the nose .... on the sides of the marines with the Pechenegs .. = superwunder wafer cruiser ?? laughing
              Quote: Altona
              But you and Virus have brains in Kazakhstan, in the Chui Valley region.

              with the virus, I also have different views on the development of our Navy .... but it is simply adequate and does not fast senility ...
      2. megafair
        megafair 30 May 2016 22: 54
        -1
        Quote: Wiruz
        Here it’s like Marshal already, it’s not the first year on the site ...

        Explain in what way the fact that you are a "marshal" in toy shoulder straps awarded according to the ... system - makes your speculations valuable?

        Your shoulder strapsbased on your comments, prove only the imperfection of the rating system on this site, and that - that a significant part of people - understand that they like - like a housewife in politics;)
  • Sergey333
    Sergey333 30 May 2016 21: 06
    0
    Soon the entire fleet will consist only of patrol ships, tugboats and boats. They load factories that can build large ships with all kinds of garbage. Such a trifle can be built at the Volga shipyards.
    1. Igor V
      Igor V 30 May 2016 21: 45
      +5
      They would be ashamed to call a trifle a ship with a displacement of 6800 tons. Moreover, an icebreaker.
  • Yak28
    Yak28 30 May 2016 21: 18
    +1
    Quote: nrex
    The most pleasant words: "In terms of the totality of its characteristics, the ship has no analogues in the world." If we do, then only the best in the world !!!

    And we say so about all the equipment on TV, our tanks have no analogues in the world, planes have no analogues in the world, helicopters have no analogues in the world, and so on, in the United States in the 90s they brought a bunch of Soviet equipment from the countries of the Warsaw Pact, and a lot of interesting things were bought and stolen in Russia. I personally do not believe that our equipment is so perfect and ahead of foreign analogues.
    Already in what, and in the construction of floating facilities, the United States is far ahead.
  • Cat man null
    Cat man null 30 May 2016 21: 21
    +1
    Quote: Yak28
    And we say so about all the equipment on TV they say that our tanks have no analogues in the world, airplanes have no analogues in the world, helicopters have no analogues in the world, and so on

    - a new generation of journalist .. victims of the exam ... forgive them, they just do not know how to. Because the words of others do not know laughing
    1. 3officer
      3officer 30 May 2016 21: 32
      0
      The screaming gnome from "Military Acceptance" is a typical representative of this subspecies.
    2. poquello
      poquello 30 May 2016 23: 17
      0
      Quote: Cat Man Null
      Quote: Yak28
      And we say so about all the equipment on TV they say that our tanks have no analogues in the world, airplanes have no analogues in the world, helicopters have no analogues in the world, and so on

      - a new generation of journalist .. victims of the exam ... forgive them, they just do not know how to. Because the words of others do not know laughing

      Do you also think that the USA is ahead of us in icebreakers?
      1. Cat man null
        Cat man null 30 May 2016 23: 19
        +1
        Quote: poquello
        Quote: Cat Man Null
        Quote: Yak28
        And we say so about all the equipment on TV they say that our tanks have no analogues in the world, airplanes have no analogues in the world, helicopters have no analogues in the world, and so on

        - a new generation of journalist .. victims of the exam ... forgive them, they just do not know how to. Because the words of others do not know laughing

        Do you also think that the USA is ahead of us in icebreakers?

        - Nope .. but what, it is necessary to consider so? wink
        - in general - it’s not my topic at all, but as far as sclerosis doesn’t change me, the Amerts have an icebreaking fleet .. in its infancy
        - I didn’t climb into Google, therefore - I can be a little mistaken .. request
        1. poquello
          poquello 30 May 2016 23: 54
          0
          Do you also think that the USA is ahead of us in icebreakers?


          Quote: Cat Man Null
          - Nope .. but what, it is necessary to consider so?

          My apologies, I did not notice the lack of communication with the above post
          Quote: Yak28
          Already in what, and in the construction of floating facilities, the United States is far ahead.
  • Galleon
    Galleon 30 May 2016 21: 30
    +4
    If such an armament is one weapon, then this is really only a patrol ship. Although the dimensions are impressive, without irony. fellow
    Accordingly, there is no large armament - a small crew, and the catering stuffed with gud will be eaten for 2 months drinks . With such increased autonomy, perhaps 2 steamers will really be enough for one decent area, like from the ZPI to Novaya Zemlya ... winked
    1. 3officer
      3officer 30 May 2016 21: 48
      +2
      Yes! large provisions in the ice will sometimes be more important than the "Calibers" .. good
  • gladysheff2010
    gladysheff2010 30 May 2016 21: 46
    +2
    Quote: Wiruz
    Are Club-K ballistic missiles? in my opinion it’s winged, but there are no restrictions on them.

    You are mistaken, as it is. The restrictions apply to both ballistic and cruise missiles with a range of less than 5500 km.

    You are mistaken, sir. Limitations under the INF Treaty do not affect sea basing, only land!
    1. Wiruz
      Wiruz 30 May 2016 21: 56
      +1
      I know that very well. But the point was that Club-K is on the ship, which, with the help of a port crane, can easily become a land missile system.
      1. poquello
        poquello 30 May 2016 23: 21
        0
        Quote: Wiruz
        I know that very well. But the point was that Club-K is on the ship, which, with the help of a port crane, can easily become a land missile system.

        yes calm down already, two bolts will be welded and it will already be with a wrench and a port crane, and this is a completely different song
  • Scharnhorst
    Scharnhorst 30 May 2016 22: 02
    +1
    It has no analogues in the world because only we can order an icebreaker with national money for patrolling in the tropics and publicize it as a masterpiece of domestic shipbuilding.
    1. Wiruz
      Wiruz 30 May 2016 22: 09
      +1
      What confused you personally:
      1) That it is built on "people's" money?
      2) What can he walk in the tropics?
      3) Or that it is quite fair, can be called unique?
      1. 31rus2
        31rus2 30 May 2016 22: 54
        0
        Dear, I wrote about the tropics above, if you want to work hard on fractions and find the necessary information, I’ll add that we are being laid over bases, including the pro, the North is becoming a strategic destination in all respects, now the Americans are recovering and will begin, although they have long been North Sea the way is considered the common property, i.e. they spat on borders and treaties
    2. Monos
      Monos 30 May 2016 22: 43
      +4
      Quote: Scharnhorst
      only we can ...


      You know, dearest worm, he loves to pick his shit not because he lives in the ass, but because he is a worm.
      I sympathize with you.
  • masiya
    masiya 30 May 2016 22: 04
    +1
    Great new ships .. we’ll check everything, normal coast guard boats will cover along the entire border and the border ...
  • okroshka79
    okroshka79 30 May 2016 22: 49
    0
    It is interesting how the earlier problem of the mechanical strength of the HV radar antenna mountings was technically solved. In particular, on the nuclear icebreaker, the antennas of the MR-310 "Angara" radar station simply, roughly speaking, broke off due to the enormous dynamic loads during the breaking of pack ice.
  • JD1979
    JD1979 31 May 2016 00: 19
    +1
    Quote: Maxom75
    It has long been suggested that moderators introduce mandatory registration of each new user when registering on the site for knowledge of the INF Treaty. Then you can take notes:

    According to the agreement on the elimination of short and medium-range missiles, Russia and the United States undertake to withdraw from armament and no longer produce land-based short and medium-range missiles
    You can read the last two words several times. That is, the Tomahawks, Caliber, Skalp-Naval, and other cruise missiles of air, surface and underwater basing do not fall under the ban.
    But here is one "but" with which I started. Russia has already made it clear more than once that the Club-K complexes (I do not know the non-export name) are not only produced, but may also be in service with us. If such a container is on the deck of a warship, then there are no problems, but the very fact that similar containers "with filling" can stand both on land and in ports, and a hundred kilometers from the White House, all this is a great opportunity for our "partners" to accuse us of violating the INF Treaty (which we are already brazenly violating).


    Here you are, testing and failed, the examiner heh ... the elephant is not called as they are. The treaty affects only ground-based missiles, and you can hang anything on the water, under water and under the wing. And only export imposed restrictions in the form of 300km on any type of missile.
  • ver_
    ver_ 31 May 2016 06: 32
    0
    Quote: Wiruz
    Michael, either I am explaining incorrectly, or you are paying the wrong attention. Read my last paragraph again. If we install Club-K complexes on ships, then they are accepted for service, then we use 99% of the pounds on land, so we violate the INF Treaty.

    Chet, I'm tired of explaining ....

    Quote: Wiruz
    Michael, either I am explaining incorrectly, or you are paying the wrong attention. Read my last paragraph again. If we install Club-K complexes on ships, then they are accepted for service, then we use 99% of the pounds on land, so we violate the INF Treaty.

    Chet, I'm tired of explaining ....

    ... you might think that they called Nizya Chipollino ..
  • drunkram
    drunkram 31 May 2016 07: 39
    0
    a little expensive for a tug ...
  • AKsvlad047
    AKsvlad047 31 May 2016 12: 05
    +1
    Beautiful and necessary for the Russian Navy karablik !!!