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The Russian Defense Ministry suspected the United States in the use of medium-range and shorter-range missiles during missile defense tests

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In the main defense department of the country, they stated that under the guise of testing missile defense systems, the United States is working on the use of missiles, the use of which is prohibited by international agreements. We are talking about medium and shorter-range missiles. Interfax cites a statement by the Deputy Head of the Directorate of International Military Cooperation of the Russian Ministry of Defense Yevgeny Ilyin:


Many questions arise in connection with the use of the United States in testing missile defense targets that are similar in characteristics with medium and shorter-range missiles. There is reason to believe that, under the guise of testing US missile defense systems, questions are being worked out on the use of medium-range and shorter-range missiles prohibited by the treaty (INF).


It should be noted that today the upper house of the Russian parliament is holding discussions on issues related to the letter of international agreements on disarmament issues. It is noted that in recent times a lot of problems have accumulated associated with the topic of trust in relation to the United States. By their actions to deploy missile defense elements in Eastern Europe, the States are clearly trying to break the nuclear parity, which, for obvious reasons, can lead to threatening consequences for the whole world. At the same time, Washington continues to create missile defense segments, making ridiculous statements that such activities are "not directed against Russia."

The Russian Defense Ministry suspected the United States in the use of medium-range and shorter-range missiles during missile defense tests


The Treaty on the Elimination of Medium and Short Range Missiles was signed on December 8 1987. The agreement was signed by Mikhail Gorbachev and Ronald Reagan. The agreement entered into force on 1 June 1988 of the year.
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  1. Red_Hamer
    Red_Hamer 27 May 2016 14: 52
    +33
    Yes, they wanted to spit on all the agreements, for them the main thing is loud, and how to lie as brazenly as possible! Russia is the enemy of mankind, and they are white and fluffy! That’s the whole US policy. I have no doubt that everything will be turned upside down, and Russia will be blamed for this!
    1. CORNET
      CORNET 27 May 2016 15: 03
      +40
      Quote: Red_Hamer
      Yes, they wanted to spit on all the agreements, for them the main thing is loud, and how to lie as brazenly as possible! Russia is the enemy of mankind, and they are white and fluffy! That’s the whole US policy. I have no doubt that everything will be turned upside down, and Russia will be blamed for this!

      This is the Judas who betrayed everything and everyone and signed the treaties that killed the USSR ... And the blood that pours in the world marks his skull ...
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      2. Monster_Fat
        Monster_Fat 27 May 2016 16: 00
        +14
        Back in the days of the Soviet Union, my grandmother (a long time deceased - "Her Kingdom of Heaven"), as soon as Gorbachev was elected General Secretary, shook her head and lamented: "Trouble, oh trouble has come, ... all the end of our country has come to power Mikola" Marked "-" Marked by the Devil "as Mother Efrosinya predicted (who is" Mother Efrosinya "- I still don't know) and he brings destruction to our state. then her words, alas ... But now, I know very well how she was right.
        1. time112
          time112 27 May 2016 16: 09
          +8
          Oddly enough, but my grandmother (also now deceased), said the same thing that he was labeled - there won’t be any good .................
      3. GSH-18
        GSH-18 27 May 2016 17: 54
        +1
        The Russian Defense Ministry suspected the United States in the use of medium-range and shorter-range missiles during missile defense tests

        This is quite possible. For these "partners" must be looked at both!
        1. Ratmir_Ryazan
          Ratmir_Ryazan 28 May 2016 00: 05
          +1
          And better through the sight ...
    2. cniza
      cniza 27 May 2016 15: 03
      +10
      Quote: Red_Hamer
      Yes, they wanted to spit on all the agreements, for them the main thing is loud, and how to lie as brazenly as possible! Russia is the enemy of mankind, and they are white and fluffy! That’s the whole US policy. I have no doubt that everything will be turned upside down, and Russia will be blamed for this!


      They don’t do otherwise, they are exceptional, the laws of physics do not apply to them.
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    4. KAV
      KAV 27 May 2016 15: 32
      +4
      Yes, they wanted to spit on all contracts
      Once there are none, they don’t give a damn when they need to poke their probable opponent into the treaty. But they themselves, of course, wanted to spit on their obligations under the treaties.
      In no case should you believe them! Moreover, it is necessary to act in a proactive manner. What our people are doing today, I hope with success.
    5. cap
      cap 27 May 2016 15: 37
      +3
      Quote: Red_Hamer
      Yes, they wanted to spit on all the agreements, for them the main thing is loud, and how to lie as brazenly as possible! Russia is the enemy of mankind, and they are white and fluffy! That’s the whole US policy. I have no doubt that everything will be turned upside down, and Russia will be blamed for this!


      They only understand power. The rest is just talking in favor of the poor.
  2. Yarik76
    Yarik76 27 May 2016 14: 55
    +22
    I didn’t understand when France and England have this INF "medium-range missiles in large quantities, for these NATO members this treaty is a side" so what is the point for us to observe it?
    1. weksha50
      weksha50 27 May 2016 15: 45
      +5
      Quote: Yarik76
      I didn’t understand when France and England have this INF "medium-range missiles in large quantities, for these NATO members this treaty is a side" so what is the point for us to observe it?



      This is the whole deep meaning of the Americans' "concern" ... They keep talking about the parity between the Russian Federation and the United States ...

      What parity can there be when the US allies in NATO have their own nuclear weapons and their OTR-INF ...

      We have our own parity: our weapons should be enough for all ill-wishers ... or rather, enemies ...
    2. CORNET
      CORNET 27 May 2016 16: 07
      +5
      Quote: Yarik76
      I didn’t understand when France and England have this INF "medium-range missiles in large quantities, for these NATO members this treaty is a side" so what is the point for us to observe it?

      Peace we want ... hi But we are presented as such aggressors and barbarians. Once again they get it out and provoke to war! When Russia starts to fight, it is beneficial to some "comrades" .... We have such a slogan, "Everything for the front, everything for Victory ...!" If you have to fight again (God forbid. .), then we will wet the "hornet's nest"! Otherwise, this will go on forever, the Russian people are tired of enduring humiliation and robbery and blood ... This time we will tear our teeth and wet by all means, not those who attack, but those who send and provoke .. am Remember gentlemen it! hi
  3. ydjin
    ydjin 27 May 2016 14: 56
    +5
    "-And maybe we already zhahn?" They themselves will perish! It's time to bring down the dollar, it will be the worst blow!
    1. weksha50
      weksha50 27 May 2016 15: 54
      +6
      Quote: ydjin
      It's time to bring down the dollar, it will be the worst hit!


      How long can this slogan rush?

      I would also like to weaken not only the dollar, but also the United States ...

      However, this is still just a fantasy ... And talking about their debts is also empty ...
      Over the past three years, especially many have predicted kirdyk to the dollar and kaput by the US itself ... And they, despite all the wishes, are flourishing ...

      One military budget is worth ...
      And all our attempts so far have been leveled by the same USA ... A BRICS is a vivid example ... Both Brazil is not right for us, and India ... Realities (truth) need to be faced with ...

      And therefore, you need not shout about the collapse of the dollar, but step up your foreign policy, invest in defense, and not reduce spending on it ...

      It’s better to let them cut expenses on all kinds of NANOs and on helping commercial banks ...
    2. Ezhaak
      Ezhaak 27 May 2016 16: 02
      +3
      Quote: ydjin
      Themselves perish! It's time to bring down the dollar, it will be the worst hit!

      They themselves will not perish. Remember my words. But about how to bring down the dollar, is it possible in more detail And publicly. There are plenty of projects and slogans, but how to do all this is strictly silent.
  4. ydjin
    ydjin 27 May 2016 14: 56
    -3
    "-And maybe we already zhahn?" They themselves will perish! It's time to bring down the dollar, it will be the worst blow!
  5. megafair
    megafair 27 May 2016 14: 57
    +7
    The only way out is to openly demonstrate weapons capable of removing from orbit (jamming or incapacitating) - any satellites both at low and at high geostations. Without a satellite constellation - pindos are surrendered, they won’t want to fight like in the Second World War.
    If I’m not mistaken, in the Soviet era we tested some kind of radio device (a bit of a cyclopean meter) for telemetry recording and tracking satellites by the reflected signal. At a power of about 7% when tracking the Pindo satellite, they burned his electronics to hell, and they lost control of the satellite, which, by the way, was new and secret.
    Technology needs to be revived and used in full fashion laughing
    1. Sagittarius YaNAO
      Sagittarius YaNAO 27 May 2016 15: 48
      -5
      When the Buran was launched, a satellite with a combat laser was also launched, but it did not go into orbit.
      1. Sagittarius YaNAO
        Sagittarius YaNAO 28 May 2016 00: 58
        -1
        Photos for those who are minus.
        1. Sagittarius YaNAO
          Sagittarius YaNAO 28 May 2016 03: 36
          0
          One more photo.
          1. Sagittarius YaNAO
            Sagittarius YaNAO 28 May 2016 16: 39
            0
            Read before rating
            "Skiff" - a combat laser station
            May 23, 2011 VO

            http://topwar.ru/4817-skif-boevaya-lazernaya-stanciya.html
            1. Sagittarius YaNAO
              Sagittarius YaNAO 30 May 2016 23: 47
              0
              It seems to me that the minuses are the same who were glad that the BURAN was dead. ghouls.
    2. weksha50
      weksha50 27 May 2016 15: 57
      +3
      Quote: megafair
      The only way out is to openly demonstrate weapons capable of removing from orbit (jamming or incapacitating) - any satellites



      Hmm ... Don’t worry, if a global military conflict starts, then on the one and the other side all these satellite groups will be disabled ... Just about the anti-satellite weapons do not make noise ...

      And it is not in vain that our "dalnyak" people practice flights without using satellite navigation ...
  6. Observer2014
    Observer2014 27 May 2016 14: 58
    +9
    "The Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation suspected the United States of using intermediate and shorter-range missiles during missile defense tests"
    Well, what are we being cautious again!? Are we again so "cautiously modest"? Or do we desperately need to cross the border at 41 meters? To understand that the war has begun? Do you think that American missile defense is medium and shorter-range missiles. So quote the Americans Kenedy's speech on the Soviet missiles in Cuba! If you yourself cannot squeeze out an ultimatum! Well, yes, this is not our method. We are lovers of water in a mortar! I almost forgot.
  7. LukaSaraev
    LukaSaraev 27 May 2016 14: 59
    +6
    Yes, this is for people who still have not forgotten how to read. Everything has been known for a long time and measures are being taken. I have one question only for those who are already thinking and have not yet made a final decision. There you are, in Germany, Romania ... Do you think the answer will ask whether you are Russian or Romanian. "... But he's a Bulgarian!"
    - Yes !? And what's the difference ... (Brother-2)
    I wonder what Obama was thinking about in Hiroshima ...
    1. ydjin
      ydjin 27 May 2016 15: 08
      +3
      Quote: LukaSaraev
      Yes, this is for people who still have not forgotten how to read. Everything has been known for a long time and measures are being taken. I have one question only for those who are already thinking and have not yet made a final decision. There you are, in Germany, Romania ... Do you think the answer will ask whether you are Russian or Romanian. "... But he's a Bulgarian!"
      - Yes !? And what's the difference ... (Brother-2)
      I wonder what Obama was thinking about in Hiroshima ...

      In the case of the Great Kipip there will be no one to think if the cockroaches mutate and can think. request
  8. corporal
    corporal 27 May 2016 15: 01
    0
    Question: "What is our answer to Chamberlain"?
    I do not mean an expression of "extreme concerns" by the Foreign Ministry.
  9. Amurets
    Amurets 27 May 2016 15: 02
    +4
    << Many questions arise in connection with the use of the United States in missile defense tests of target missiles similar in characteristics to intermediate and shorter-range missiles. There is reason to believe that under the guise of testing US missile defense systems, the issues of using medium and shorter-range missiles prohibited by the INF Treaty are being worked out. >>
    Since the Americans are already rolling a barrel at us about violating the INF Treaty, don’t go to the grandmother and violate it yourself. And the missile defense is not being developed on the Strategic Missile Forces, but on the INF Treaty. This can be determined by the targets used in the tests.
  10. Tuzik
    Tuzik 27 May 2016 15: 06
    +2
    and who is stopping us from launching target missiles with blanks instead of warheads? in the same launchers that under caliber or under antey 2500?
  11. msm
    msm 27 May 2016 15: 09
    +1
    Well, you are all fools. Friday! I have already taken a day cup, I have a bite ... Excuse me, please!
    1. msm
      msm 27 May 2016 15: 23
      -1
      Maybe I fucked a badge at all with flies to immediately minus. But we don’t care!
    2. Red_Hamer
      Red_Hamer 27 May 2016 15: 23
      +2
      Well, you are all fools. Friday! I have already taken a day cup, I have a bite ...
      Well then, hello from all of us, your liver, buddy!
  12. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 27 May 2016 15: 09
    +7
    How to rob a neighbor in a gardening partnership. To accuse him of "eating eggs incorrectly" (no matter what, the shape of the nose is not the same, he sleeps on the wrong side), and to explain to all other gardeners that this feature is absolutely terrible, reduces the yield of apples in the whole partnership, and strawberries are sour .. At the same time, to strengthen the effect, slowly sprinkle the neighbors with pesticides and throw hornets' nests over the fence.
    This was my allegory. Matrasia sensed that she was being circumvented at a bend, and launched her elbows, knees, and other forbidden methods of struggle. Why be surprised. In the mentality of the striatum, there is no place other than the first.
    1. ydjin
      ydjin 27 May 2016 15: 22
      +3
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      How to rob a neighbor in a gardening partnership. To accuse him of "eating eggs incorrectly" (no matter what, the shape of the nose is not the same, he sleeps on the wrong side), and to explain to all other gardeners that this feature is absolutely terrible, reduces the yield of apples in the whole partnership, and strawberries are sour .. At the same time, to strengthen the effect, slowly sprinkle the neighbors with pesticides and throw hornets' nests over the fence.
      This was my allegory. Matrasia sensed that she was being circumvented at a bend, and launched her elbows, knees, and other forbidden methods of struggle. Why be surprised. In the mentality of the striatum, there is no place other than the first.

      The exceptional ones always consider themselves infallible, and the Russians are to blame for all the troubles. It's time to dunk these freaks in guano which they themselves have bred around the world on the top of their heads! am
    2. Boa kaa
      Boa kaa 27 May 2016 22: 15
      +1
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      Matrasia sensed that she was being circumvented at a bend, and launched her elbows, knees, and other forbidden methods of struggle. Why be surprised.

      Zhenya! The fight for the place of "King of the Hill" in politics is a very dirty business.
      In general, politics is a very dirty, unprincipled business for the Anglo-Saxon establishment. So, what you wrote about is the norm for them. They are still not so capable ... if we let them. But we will never allow them to turn everyone on ... y. This is why the "exceptional" are furious.
      IMHO.
  13. masiya
    masiya 27 May 2016 15: 16
    +1
    just empty talk, crushing water in a mortar, the result of our statements - zero and ov’s denials of an obvious zero too, they, one garbage, will not stop them before our concern as to us before sprat life in the Caspian Sea, you just need to keep everything under the drum under control and draw appropriate conclusions with readiness to resist.
    1. ydjin
      ydjin 27 May 2016 15: 33
      +1
      Masiya, then it’s easier not to think at all. The main thing is that opening the refrigerator was something to put in the head of food. After all, do you need a head for food?
    2. 31rus2
      31rus2 27 May 2016 15: 45
      +1
      Dear, not professionalism in its purest form, the words "maybe, probably, maybe" are from the Ministry of Culture, but not as defense, do not know do not say, know act
  14. sinoptic
    sinoptic 27 May 2016 15: 41
    0
    I suppose, just like that, ours will not come out of the INF Treaty until there is a trump card.

    A trump card is already on the way S-500.
    As they launch the troops into production and saturate them with troops, one can confidently leave the INF.
    S-500 is essentially our missile defense, but unlike the missile defense, it’s mobile and I think it will be more reliable in interception.

    In principle, the S-400 is already intercepting short-range missiles, but these complexes are few, and in my opinion it does not intercept medium and long range.
    1. Boa kaa
      Boa kaa 27 May 2016 22: 21
      +2
      Quote: sinoptic
      just because of our INF will not come out until there is a trump card.
      Of course they won't! After all, it was not in vain that the amas were hysterical about the range of application of the "Rubezh". And we do not know exactly what the "two-horned" is capable of in terms of range. At least the CD can definitely do much more than is declared!
      Yours faithfully, hi
      1. coconut
        coconut 28 May 2016 07: 01
        0
        I agree, and also about the calibers: something tells me that to us, FAR, not everything is known about them.
      2. coconut
        coconut 28 May 2016 07: 01
        0
        I agree, and also about the calibers: something tells me that to us, FAR, not everything is known about them.
  15. weksha50
    weksha50 27 May 2016 15: 41
    0
    "There is reason to believe that under the guise of testing the US missile defense system, questions are being worked out on the use of medium- and shorter-range missiles prohibited by the treaty (INF)"...

    Naturally ... But what else could be expected?

    Both old and newly developed OTP-class rockets and similar ones are used as targets ...

    Training is underway both on the use of missile defense missiles and on the withdrawal from them of the RSMD missiles ... And also, most importantly, actions are being worked out to destroy exactly our missiles of this class ...

    It is useless to make noise and talk more talkatively ... Well, supposedly the whole world illuminated their actions ... But they don’t give a damn about the opinion of this world ...

    So a long time ago, without unnecessary noise, develop and develop their own INF, naturally, with the equipment of nuclear warheads, that is, first of all, to make the main "gift" for Europe - tactical nuclear weapons ...

    Well, the Poles, in the madness of their Russophobia, may not even think ... But Germany and Turkey will fall under the distribution in the first place ... There is no need to store Amer nuclear weapons on its territory ...

    Something inspired: "They won't get off with tomatoes" ...
    1. Boa kaa
      Boa kaa 27 May 2016 22: 44
      +1
      Quote: weksha50
      So long ago, without too much noise, to develop and develop your own INF systems,
      This is definitely. But, apparently, it will be necessary to deploy in the Kaliningrad "gebit" a couple of Iskander brigades with constant combat duty of crews in readiness for combat use on designated targets. Moreover, I am 155% sure that (in the threatened period) after the announcement of the ultimatum, nothing should stop us ...
      Quote: weksha50
      There is no need to store Amer nuclear weapons on its territory ...
      The whole trouble is that in addition to the six indicated by you, the dispersal sites of the state nuclear weapons at the limitroph airfields are already being worked out at the block’s exercises. And there are many of our former compatriots ...
      Hence the hysteria of the unfinished aisling, the persecution of non-citizens. Afraid of the repetition of 40, the foresters are damned ...
  16. alex80
    alex80 27 May 2016 15: 52
    +2
    Quote: megafair
    The only way out is to openly demonstrate weapons capable of removing from orbit (jamming or incapacitating) - any satellites both at low and at high geostations. Without a satellite constellation - pindos are surrendered, they won’t want to fight like in the Second World War.
    If I’m not mistaken, in the Soviet era we tested some kind of radio device (a bit of a cyclopean meter) for telemetry recording and tracking satellites by the reflected signal. At a power of about 7% when tracking the Pindo satellite, they burned his electronics to hell, and they lost control of the satellite, which, by the way, was new and secret.
    Technology needs to be revived and used in full fashion laughing

    Ways to neutralize satellites:
    1. Even in the Union, the development of a satellite interception system began, which was based on the MiG-31D fighter-interceptor, which was equipped with the 79M6 Kontakt anti-satellite missile. This program is currently resumed.
    2. There is another relatively simple and very effective way to combat satellites - raising warheads with a capacity of about 200 megaton to a height of 250-1 km. After the explosion of this warhead, all satellites in a certain radius of destruction will simply "die out", this will happen all in seconds.
    3. Any satellite is easy enough to shoot down with strike weapons: a conventional blank or a cloud of steel shot, which simply perforates the satellite’s vital systems, primarily solar panels.
    4. There are various systems of electronic suppression when all microcircuits can burn from the pulse of an electromagnetic bomb.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 27 May 2016 16: 01
      +1
      Point 2,3,4 is not acceptable for us - our satellites will also suffer from this no less than the American and everyone else.
  17. abc_alex
    abc_alex 27 May 2016 15: 58
    +1
    Quote: Observer2014
    "The Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation suspected the United States of using intermediate and shorter-range missiles during missile defense tests"
    Well, what are we being cautious again!? Are we again so "cautiously modest"? Or do we desperately need to cross the border at 41 meters? To understand that the war has begun? Do you think that American missile defense is medium and shorter-range missiles. So quote the Americans Kenedy's speech on the Soviet missiles in Cuba! If you yourself cannot squeeze out an ultimatum! Well, yes, this is not our method. We are lovers of water in a mortar! I almost forgot.


    Well, quieter. The Russian Federation has missiles "Granat" and "Caliber" nuclear and non-nuclear versions with a range of 2500 to 3000 km. They are sea-based. But a meter-shortened version of these 9M728 missiles is launched from the Iskander launcher. So why tear the vests? The RIAC is of concern to the Shtatovs solely from the point of view of not pulling the nerves of Europeans. And they and we observe it formally. In real life, the "Caliber-K" complex with a launch from a container also violates the INF Treaty.
  18. Banishing liberoids
    Banishing liberoids 27 May 2016 16: 05
    -1
    If something prevents you from living quietly, give up this burden and live! I mean that it is time to annul this agreement.
  19. Vadim237
    Vadim237 27 May 2016 16: 10
    +1
    Subsonic cruise missiles in Europe are not dangerous for Russia, the terrain is flat and they can be shot down from the usual ZUShKA, it will be completely different if new Pershing appear in Europe, they will pose a very serious threat to the European part of Russia, flight time is only 4 - 6 minutes.
  20. maks007
    maks007 27 May 2016 16: 14
    0
    Quote: weksha50

    One military budget is worth ...

    The machine is nearby that the signs are printed by "$" in any quantity, they don't give a damn about their own state debts, we will not print them yet.
    Only now you did not take into account that from whom the representatives of the alliance should buy "hardware" ???
    1. weksha50
      weksha50 27 May 2016 18: 13
      0
      Quote: maks007
      The machine is nearby that the signs are printed by "$" in any quantity, they don't give a damn about their own state debts, we will not print them yet.
      Only now you did not take into account that from whom the representatives of the alliance should buy "hardware" ???



      And with mindless typing, it’s not so simple ...

      And what did you mean by "iron" ???

      Metal? Production equipment? Equipment and weapons ???

      They have where to buy, and to whom to sell ... And they have no problems in this ...
      To our great regret ...
  21. serezhasoldatow
    serezhasoldatow 27 May 2016 16: 14
    0
    More such statements must be made! Let them scratch themselves. It is necessary then to give a refutation. Here psaki will not help.
  22. Oleg L.
    Oleg L. 27 May 2016 16: 19
    +2
    Finally, they saw the light)) This is not a missile defense! These Americans are not so stupid to put 10 missile defense missile launchers in Europe. This is the purest weapon of the first strike. High-speed missiles designed to destroy command centers with a flight time of 5-10 minutes to St. Petersburg and Moscow from Romania and Poland
    1. Boa kaa
      Boa kaa 27 May 2016 23: 17
      +2
      I completely agree with your post. "+" A few words about:
      Quote: Oleg L.
      Finally, they saw
      Actually, they saw a long time. From 2009, then in 2013, we reasonably demonstrated the danger of mine-based GBI. Then they kind of understood and agreed.
      Quote: Oleg L.
      This is the purest weapon of the first strike.
      Absolutely true!
      The range of the GBI missile defense is 1 thousand km. As a warhead, the missile is equipped with an atmospheric interceptor. It is possible to equip nuclear warhead missiles which, at present, are at the testing stage. In this version of combat equipment, a missile system can be used to deliver lightning-fast point strikes against protected ground and underground targets.
      1. Oleg L.
        Oleg L. 28 May 2016 00: 46
        0
        thanks for the additions
  23. Garden1212
    Garden1212 27 May 2016 16: 31
    -3
    the most ,,,,,,,,,,, icon !!!!!! It smells bad.
  24. CAH4OYC
    CAH4OYC 27 May 2016 17: 38
    +1
    with a flight time of 5-10 minutes to St. Petersburg and Moscow from Romania and Poland

    It will be cool if they guess to put it in the Baltic. Then time will go by almost a second! They squeeze us beyond the Urals and this is a fact!
    1. TOR2
      TOR2 27 May 2016 22: 20
      0
      Not so simple. The launch of missiles from the Baltic states will be credited almost immediately. Here, the time of the retaliatory strike on the launcher is noticeably reduced. Whether the best and most exclusive missiles of this kind will be trusted by footmen, and in such a situation they won’t be able to take their fat asses away.
      In general, it would be nice for Sprotland and similar territories to develop missiles for the Smerch missile launcher with tactical nuclear warheads and an increased range.
  25. Brigadier
    Brigadier 27 May 2016 17: 39
    0
    Yeah ... How much further, then ... I generally think that in our leadership there are either outspoken pro-Westerners, or complete amateurs or just cowards who are afraid to tell the states and their henchmen the truth in their eyes and are only capable of streamlined formulations like "we believe, we suspect, etc." ... Eh! Stalin is not on them ... sad
  26. Anchonsha
    Anchonsha 27 May 2016 17: 44
    0
    A strange treaty on the INF Treaty was signed by Gorbach horseradish. All NATO members, including the geyropa, retain medium- and shorter-range missiles, and only Russia, while partially on the geyropei continent, should not have such missiles. And the United States did not comply with this treaty from the very beginning, like other treaties, in particular on the reduction of the same nuclear weapons. If Russia dismantled nuclear warheads and eliminated them, the United States simply stored the warheads, but didn’t destroy them. We just need to abandon them if our War Department suspected the United States of using banned missiles.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 28 May 2016 00: 13
      0
      But we must admit that Gorbachev also removed the US nuclear ballistic missiles from Europe by the INF Treaty.
  27. Ajent cho
    Ajent cho 27 May 2016 21: 51
    0
    The Russian Defense Ministry suspected the United States in the use of medium-range and shorter-range missiles during missile defense tests
    Of course, everything is so. And no one ever doubted WHY the last night stirs up water around their missile defense systems for so long.
  28. Old26
    Old26 28 May 2016 10: 02
    0
    Quote: Yarik76
    I didn’t understand when France and England have this INF "medium-range missiles in large quantities, for these NATO members this treaty is a side" so what is the point for us to observe it?

    The contract was between USSR and USA. What side is France, England, or rather, sideways, as you say? Yes and no they have medium-range missiles. Previously, at least France had as many as 18 pieces (a large number), so now they are not.

    Quote: Sagittarius Yamal
    When the Buran was launched, a satellite with a combat laser was also launched, but it did not go into orbit.

    Don't write nonsense. Not when the Buran was launched, but earlier, when Energia was first launched. And there was no "combat laser" on this satellite. It was a demonstrator and nothing more. It was planned to equip this product with a laser only at 4 or 5 launches.

    Quote: Anchonsha
    All NATO members, including the geyropu, retain medium and shorter range missiles

    "... read out the entire list, pzhalsta ..." (c). Where did you see these rockets? Especially medium range. Do not share data on the number, locations, names of these missiles ???

    Quote: Amurets
    << Many questions arise in connection with the use of the United States in missile defense tests of target missiles similar in characteristics to intermediate and shorter-range missiles. There is reason to believe that under the guise of testing US missile defense systems, the issues of using medium and shorter-range missiles prohibited by the INF Treaty are being worked out. >>
    Since the Americans are already rolling a barrel at us about violating the INF Treaty, don’t go to the grandmother and violate it yourself. And the missile defense is not being developed on the Strategic Missile Forces, but on the INF Treaty. This can be determined by the targets used in the tests.

    Kolya! Put a note (this is not an article) bold minus. Not even the note itself, there is nothing interesting there, but the title.
    The Ministry of Defense suspected ... Damn, what suspicious ones ... And the MO suspected, or once again zhurnalyugi annealed?

    Thirty years ago they themselves allowed them to do this, but now they have suspected and amicably starting to blame. In what? That they created these missiles STRONGLY Fulfilling the INF Treaty ???
  29. Thompson
    Thompson 28 May 2016 11: 21
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    It is high time to withdraw from this treaty. He was beneficial earlier, now he only binds our hands and unties them.
    And to add a point to our defense strategy - in the event of the outbreak of hostilities with any NATO country, a retaliatory strike will be dealt to all strategic facilities in the territories of all NATO countries, especially the United States, with any weapons.
    And let it scratch turnips
  30. Old26
    Old26 28 May 2016 16: 40
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    Quote: Thompson
    It is high time to withdraw from this treaty. He was beneficial earlier, now he only binds our hands and unties them.

    They are just waiting for this. In a couple of months, their border will be at their borders. And what are we in return? Will we suck the paw or write angry articles in the media?

    Quote: Anchonsha
    If Russia dismantled nuclear warheads and eliminated, then the United States simply stored warheads, but did not destroy

    The fact that we dismantled the warheads is a fact. But who told you that these charges (physical units) were eliminated, not stored or used in other systems. Yes, and they have not stockpiled these charges. All used.

    Quote: Oleg L.
    Finally, they saw the light)) This is not a missile defense! These Americans are not so stupid to put 10 missile defense missile launchers in Europe. This is the purest weapon of the first strike. High-speed missiles designed to destroy command centers with a flight time of 5-10 minutes to St. Petersburg and Moscow from Romania and Poland

    Do you think you have seen? MO? Or is this another media outlet.
    In addition, no one was planning to deploy 10 launchers in Poland and Romania. 24 and not one less. True, how are they going to place (sorry, in your words) high-speed missiles - the authors of such articles probably know this, and perhaps you too. How can I place a rocket 7-8 meters long and 11-16 meters long in a launch pad with a diameter of just over half a meter and a length of 1,3-1,6 meters - I personally do not know ...

    Just the INF Treaty, especially everything related to its violation - this is Klondike for those who are PR. And no matter whether the former military or politicians. Moreover, these violations and missile defense are all purely for domestic consumption, the main task of which is to try to scare the average person ...