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Russians were asked to express an opinion about the presence or absence of an economic crisis in the country. We invite you to take part in our survey.

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Do you agree with the fact that there is an economic crisis in Russia today?

Agree - 4344 (78.38%)
78.38%
Disagree - 861 (15.54%)
15.54%
Difficult to answer unequivocally - 333 (6.01%)
6.01%
On the eve of the Russian non-state research company "Levada-Center" has published data from the survey, which bears the saying called "The economic crisis." In the 48 regions of the country, about 1,6 thousand people aged 18 years were surveyed on the subject of an opinion on the presence or absence of an economic crisis in Russia. Before presenting information on the subject and the results of the survey conducted by the Levada Center, it is necessary to publish the data of the state structure. It is about Rosstat, which has brought together and provided information about the economic situation in the country lately.


Russians were asked to express an opinion about the presence or absence of an economic crisis in the country. We invite you to take part in our survey.


Despite statements by some relevant government officials that the crisis is over, and that the barrel of oil at its cost even allows you to save funds to the Reserve Fund, the Rosstat figures look, frankly, far from being unequivocal about optimism. Even with a special desire ... Certainly, in the information environment it happens that the individual media can turn the minuses into advantages, and other media can do everything exactly the opposite, and therefore, in order not to become the object of statements in the style of “the author tries to embellish ”or“ the author is a person from the series of pro-polymers ”, then - exclusively dry figures and bare facts. Well, except for some short comments, which I hope in no way can distract the reader from the data published by the Federal State Statistics Service (Rosstat).

So, Rosstat publishes information on economic trends in Russia over the past 4 of the month. If you believe the presented monitoring results, then the real money incomes of the average Russian decreased for the period from January to April of the current year by 4,7%. And draws attention to a rather unexpected figure for April. This indicator - "minus" 7,1% in annual terms. For comparison: in March, according to estimates of the same Rosstat, it was “minus” 1,2%.

However, this is a real expression, which is expressed in the ability of the above-mentioned average Russian to acquire a certain set of goods for the sum of his income. If we proceed to the reports in terms of nominal, then such reports to certain categories of citizens are fit to be used at least in campaigning, especially since elections to the lower house of parliament are not far off. The denomination is as follows: not a drop, but an increase in average per capita income by 0,1% on an annualized basis (to 31,3 thousand rubles), as well as an increase in payroll wages already by 5,4% - to 36,2 thousand rubles (this is in real terms in “minus” 1,7%).

As you can see, with these figures, certain people can easily afford to “play” in such a way that the numbers will simply reflect the opposite trends. But we are here to "play" for nothing, and therefore the bare facts from Rosstat and not only further.

The number of Russians who have cash incomes below the subsistence minimum, on an annualized basis (in comparison with 2015 year) grew by no less than 19,6% and amounted to 19,2 million people.

At the same time, the growth of wage delays was recorded. Informational portal “To lead. Economy" cites the statement of the Minister of Labor of the Russian Federation Maxim Topilin:
In the first quarter, 46 received thousands of complaints from citizens about salary delays totaling about 6 billion rubles. In this regard, the State Duma may in May adopt a law to tighten the requirements for employers to pay salaries.


These are statistics from government institutions and officials, which, perhaps, resembles reports on the average temperature of hospital patients, but still gives reason to reflect on trends. You can try to ignore them or convert them to "achievements economic block ", but the facts remain facts and they do not look so comforting as we would like ...

Well, now to the announced survey conducted Levada Center in 137 locations of the Russian Federation. The organizers of the survey state that the statistical error in such a study is no more than 3,4%. Whether to trust the results of a survey conducted by experts of the Levada Center is a private matter. But even if there is no trust in the results in this case, then at least just getting acquainted will not be superfluous, and then present your point of view.

Question 1. What, in your opinion, is now the main internal threat to Russia?

At the time of the survey, 44% of Russians responded that the main internal threat in the country is economic problems, a slowdown in economic development and a growth in public debt.

Well, if one can argue with a negative about the growth of public debt (for example, in the United States or Japan, debt is growing at an astronomical pace, and so far something has not been heard about assigning pre-default ratings to the economies of these countries), everything else is close to reality. Indeed, one can say a lot about the fact that economic problems and a slowdown in growth (although in reality this is no longer a decrease in growth rates, but a real departure in the negative) do not have any influence on the situation in the country, but in reality everything is different. Many felt the drop in revenues (with the exception of incomes of all kinds of top managers and other representatives of the “golden Russian million”), and if you have a head on your shoulders it is difficult not to call the economic difficulties an internal threat to Russia. In the end, wasn’t it in order to loosen the situation in the country that anti-Russian sanctions were imposed (even if they were not the main cause of economic difficulties) by our "friends"? ..

Question 2. Do you agree or disagree with the opinion that the economic crisis in Russia is now?

Disagree - 12%, agree - 82%, the rest of the respondents could not decide on an unambiguous answer. And indeed, if we follow the official reports, how can we decide? .. On the one hand, we have (well, someone ...) income growth (if nominally), and on the other hand, their fall (if real). Here the answer fits into the logic of who and what will find in his own wallet and fridge ...

It should be added here that the maximum of answers “agree” about the presence of the economic crisis in Russia fell on March 2016 of the year - 85%. Interestingly, what has become the main factor in the fact that the percentage of those who are sure of the economic crisis in the country has decreased? Is the departure of a barrel of oil from 35 dollars and the fall of the dollar against the ruble compared to the figures for the beginning of the year? ..

Perhaps one more questionworthy of special attention given by the Levada:
How would you assess the situation with the payment of salaries, benefits in your city, district?

Result: 36% stated that the situation had worsened, 10% saw improvements, and 47% of respondents did not notice any changes in comparison with the previous period of time.

And now I would like to ask the opinion of the audience of readers. our information and analytical portal Regarding how each of those willing to vote considers whether there is an economic crisis in the country today or not? Detailed answers in the comments are welcome.
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  1. PKK
    PKK 24 May 2016 05: 57
    +146
    The question is not so much in the crisis, but in the impudence of the local leadership, local authorities, those who sit on the streams. Last year, they significantly improved their skills to rob their employees and are now waiting for the opportunity to rob again.
    1. kodxnumx
      kodxnumx 24 May 2016 06: 06
      +104
      For me, little has changed in life, but prices have grown, and most importantly, all employers have begun to use a word like crisis and regularly detain zp, and in my opinion little has changed!
      1. rpek32
        rpek32 24 May 2016 06: 53
        +12
        for me the only thing that has changed is that now it is very convenient to say "we have a crisis", but there are no special changes
        1. leshiy076
          leshiy076 24 May 2016 08: 07
          +105
          Any crisis is an artificial phenomenon. All this is done to make the rich richer and the poor poorer. Let's remember 2008. Then everyone, including the GDP, said that it was necessary to support the banking sector and poured more than half of the stabilization fund there. Where is this money now? They seemed to be given with a return and even at interest. In general, the modern economic model of Russia is very, very flawed. In times of high oil prices, we save money by putting it in various funds. Then, after consulting and deciding that it's time, a crisis is created. And under the guise of all the accumulated capital is poured through the banking sector into the pockets, guess who. No, not GDP. And in the pockets of those who rule the banking system of the planet. It's time, comrades, to the barricades. As Bulgakov's professor used to say: "Ruin in the heads."
          1. cniza
            cniza 24 May 2016 08: 19
            +4
            Quote: leshiy076
            Any crisis is a phenomenon created artificially.



            The crisis in the head, very many haunted.
            1. Inok10
              Inok10 24 May 2016 22: 09
              +16
              Quote: cniza
              The crisis in the head, very many haunted.

              ... absolutely right ... hi ... the lesson of 1990 was forgotten to see ... or rather, the brains of the people begin to powder again ... to remind how "barikadchiki" sold the GREAT COUNTRY of the USSR! ... and for what ?! ... for sausage without meat from soybeans, canned swill from cans called Beer and Tampex tampons ... watch and remember everyone who remembers and tell those who have not seen ... how you lived in the glorious 90s ... now I have not bound by the obligation to obey the order, now I can take the "Saiga" and start just blaming all those who will break the barricades and yell at them and there are many like me ... I have something to lose ... COUNTRY! ... even if not the USSR, but this is now my COUNTRY RUSSIA! and I see an opportunity to return the Greatness of the past and lost territories, and I will defend it! by any available means! ... I am not going to tear out two Countries in one life! ... all of you make your own choices ... soldier
              1. okunevich_rv
                okunevich_rv 25 May 2016 06: 34
                +7
                And who are you going to shoot at, at the hard workers of the destitute and robbed, or at the oligarchs? who are going to hunt with saiga? maybe on starving children and their parents? the oligarchs don’t go to the barricades, they get in the way from under the cards and the police push the indignant people. Or maybe appeal to conscience and honor, and again for ordinary people in the elections for the Communist Party.
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                2. 2ez
                  2ez 25 May 2016 17: 35
                  +11
                  not the oligarchs stood on the Maidan ... Do you want another revolution? Do it! It is with the hands of the destitute revolution that they are made! Only now they will remain destitute ... and there will be no country ... But the oligarchs will remain!
                  1. WKS
                    WKS 25 May 2016 18: 50
                    +2
                    Quote: 2ez
                    Only now they will remain destitute ... and there will be no country ...

                    Only many more will change their place of residence to a cemetery calm.
                    1. Inok10
                      Inok10 25 May 2016 19: 40
                      +4
                      Quote: 2ez
                      not the oligarchs stood on the Maidan ... Do you want another revolution? Do it! It is with the hands of the destitute revolution that they are made! Only now they will remain destitute ... and there will be no country ... But the oligarchs will remain!

                      Quote: wks
                      Only many more will change their place of residence to a cemetery calm.

                      ... this is what was written above ... absolutely true and correct ... and there will be no country like Russia ... but the "barikadchiks" and "sloganists" have a short mind ... for which I am NOT ALLOWING! Red, Brown or White repeat 17 and 90 years of the XX century ... as a Citizen of my Stary I will defend her even with a weapon in my hands from such specimens, whatever color they are ... hi
              2. mole
                mole 25 May 2016 15: 41
                +2
                Quote: Inok10
                how did you live in the glorious 90s ...

                Bad, it was not worse when in the house except 1 kg. oatmeal was not horseradish. Just there was nothing to eat! And to borrow money ... also no one.
                Quote: Inok10
                now I can take the "Saiga" and start just blaming all those who will break into the barricades and yell at them and there are many like me ...

                Among those who will rush to the barricades, there may also be people (who now have nothing to eat or other selfish interests) with "Saiga", in the end what will we get? Pral-no - another Civilian! But only the Great Civil War, after which the term - Russian citizenship is unlikely to exist!
                Quote: Inok10
                Now my COUNTRY RUSSIA! and I see an opportunity to return the Greatness of the past and the lost territories and I will protect it!

                Most of those who climb the barricades want to do the same.
                Please do not heat up. Most citizens of Russia, by the way, not only Russia, want Our Greatness. Another question is who benefits from the current situation?
                Quote: Inok10
                ... leave the Communist Party slogans for a rally ... about the starving and oppressed ... and, all the more so about the oligarchs ... I got slogans on you to wet and I will be in the first place! ...

                By the way, definitely not the Communist Party, tk. in the 90s they could easily use their resources and JUST raise everyone to the barricades. But only the Chairman of "Zu" did not do it! By the way, only for that - I respect him!
                For all the miscalculations, one way or another "is responsible" - the head. Putin's mistake V.V. in that he too patronizes "his own", although supporting his own he has strength. But "friends" in the end are already oh .. if! Hence all the "crises". It's time for our President to pay attention to this support, then we will not remember the crises.
                With respect.
            2. bondarencko
              bondarencko 25 May 2016 12: 00
              +1
              Excuse me, please clarify "crisis" or "climax" !?
              1. mole
                mole 25 May 2016 15: 45
                +1
                Quote: bondarencko
                Excuse me, please clarify "crisis" or "climax" !?

                The crisis is essentially a deep breakdown, a fracture.
                Climax is a certain stage in the development of the female body, which is characterized by hormonal changes in it, as a result of which the reproductive function fades.
                wink
            3. NordUral
              NordUral 25 May 2016 14: 13
              0
              Whose heads?
          2. Irokez
            Irokez 24 May 2016 08: 48
            .
            Quote: leshiy076
            It’s time, comrades, for the barricades.

            Why are you calling Leshy? It’s not enough for you to barricade in the year 17, so after 100 years you decided to repeat it? Go to the forest, do not stir up civilization with new revolutions. Less for your call and pessimism.
            And on the topic, what kind of crisis can there be when all the opportunities for raising the economy have appeared. This is restructuring in a new way and new conditions, and the crisis was in the 90s and it was created by partners and supposedly friends.
            1. leshiy076
              leshiy076 24 May 2016 22: 02
              +3
              I understand that you are not familiar with abstract concepts. Well, not everyone is given, your direct fault is not here. As for pessimism, it is not clear where did you notice it from me. I worked as before the crisis, and now I work. As a citizen I go to the polls and vote for the Communists. These are my political beliefs, maybe someone does not agree with this.
              1. Inok10
                Inok10 24 May 2016 22: 14
                +2
                Quote: leshiy076
                These are my political beliefs, maybe someone does not agree with this.

                ... that calls for barricades have become political beliefs? ... in general, this is Article 280 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation, I explain it for especially "gifted barikadchiks" ... how this opposition stinks, either from red, from brown, or from white ...
                1. okunevich_rv
                  okunevich_rv 25 May 2016 06: 41
                  +2
                  Dear you would decide, you have lost the great country of the USSR, from how the red opposition stinks, the statements are very unbalanced.
                  1. Inok10
                    Inok10 25 May 2016 11: 11
                    +2
                    Quote: okunevich_rv
                    Dear you would decide, you have lost the great country of the USSR, from how it stinks of the red opposition,

                    ... the Reds blew it away ... Gorbachev, the EBN is all yours ... don’t get used to what JV Stalin built, even the monarchists respect him as a Statesman! ... he kept the party away from power ... and he did the right thing ... ideology and economy are two different things ... what Khrushchev did with the Stalinist economy, which won the war and filled the shelves of stores, the cards were canceled first in the world in 1949! ... everyone knows ... ruined, and even JV Stalin poured mud ... Khrushch is also your party leader ... therefore I don’t care what red, brown, white ... everyone is trying equally in protest moods get out to power ... tfu ...
                    1. bondarencko
                      bondarencko 25 May 2016 12: 10
                      +2
                      Then - COLOR yourself, so that others can see from afar what you want. But do not spoil the air with your bile.
                    2. kyznets
                      kyznets 25 May 2016 13: 02
                      +4
                      What a habit - to paint and stain! Inok10 just doesn't want to dance to the tune of any color. And this does not prevent him from having his position with respect to the opposition of any color. Many survivors of the 90s have a desire not to allow this to happen again and there is no trust in any groups and groups. There is a COUNTRY. There are citizens. And they are ready to defend the COUNTRY, but not ideas painted in red, brown, orange, blue. And the provocateurs who always need to be crushed are usually called barricades. Life has also taught me that from revolutions and barricades it can only be worse (for the majority), and it’s these provocateurs, of whom there are only a few, who collect foams. And after all, well-fed, well-fed guys are calling.
              2. mole
                mole 25 May 2016 16: 05
                +5
                Quote: leshiy076
                As a citizen I go to the polls and vote for the Communists.

                Our voting is secret, but for a civil position - my plus to you.
                It's bad when they begin to divide the patriots into their own and ... others. The majority in our Country - wants the Greatness of Our Country with you! So that, while abroad, every citizen of the Russian Federation could declare with a sense of pride his citizenship and be sure that a citizen of the Power will not be captured, put in a "zindan", Guantanomo, etc. All that is lacking is inner Greatness, otherwise an ordinary citizen without connections, legal education cannot break through bureaucratic barriers, because he is perceived by an official who knows life outside the Moscow Ring Road according to reports (paper documents), often as an enemy - distracting "from work."
                1. Inok10
                  Inok10 25 May 2016 19: 58
                  +2
                  Quote: Mole
                  Greatness, otherwise an ordinary citizen without connections, legal education cannot break through bureaucratic barriers, because it is perceived by an official who knows life outside the Moscow Ring Road by reports (paper documents), often as an enemy - distracting "from work".

                  ... for 15 years I haven’t met such people in construction ... well, how many officials I had to talk to can imagine a couple of thousand in total pass ... when will the communist patriots really begin to do something, and not just pour dirt on everything that exists as a method of political struggle, while the aggravation of the struggle they have every time before the next election ... build enterprises, introduce the rule of socialism on them: from each according to his ability and to each according to his work ... yeah, wait right now from them .. rally with slogans, call for class struggle and call for barricades ... all that they are capable of now ...
                  1. mole
                    mole 27 May 2016 10: 25
                    0
                    The number of bureaucrats is interesting to me. Bureaucrats may not be from the Communist Party of the Russian Federation. If you have resolved issues with officials thanks to your charisma, then my "respect" to you! Are you from another planet? THE OFFICER IS OBLIGED TO FOLLOW THE LEGISLATION OF THE RF. The Communist Party of the Russian Federation does not call for barricades, by the way. In the 90s, they could raise SUCH ARMY that everyone was a Khan. We didn’t, for this I respect Uncle Ziu.
                    P / S / Watch on TV about the class struggle?
            2. mole
              mole 25 May 2016 15: 54
              0
              Quote: Irokez
              Why are you calling Leshy? It’s not enough for you to barricade in the year 17, so after 100 years you decided to repeat it? Go to the forest, do not stir up civilization with new revolutions. Less for your call and pessimism.

              I agree with you completely!
              Quote: Irokez
              And on the topic, what kind of crisis can there be when all the opportunities for raising the economy have appeared.

              But here it’s not very. From communication with people (not oligarchs) - it's hard. It could really be a restructuring (not for Mr. Gorbi). The Supreme in a straight line said that the structure of the economy will be changed. Wait and see. Anyway, I really hope so.
              By the way, minus is not mine, as well as plus wink
          3. troyan
            troyan 24 May 2016 09: 00
            -2
            Quote: leshiy076
            And under this guise, all the accumulated capital merges through the banking sector into the pockets of guess who. No, not GDP. And in the pockets of those who steers the banking system of the planet.

            And GDP, as always, has nothing to do with it? And you think GDP doesn’t fall?
            1. Spnsr
              Spnsr 24 May 2016 09: 27
              +3
              Quote: troyan
              Quote: leshiy076
              And under this guise, all the accumulated capital merges through the banking sector into the pockets of guess who. No, not GDP. And in the pockets of those who steers the banking system of the planet.

              And GDP, as always, has nothing to do with it? And you think GDP doesn’t fall?

              Did GDP come tail? laughing it's not about GDP, but you definitely need to insert five cents! laughing we are talking about people ... who are too much to bribe the price, grab, and topple off .....
              1. Mahmut
                Mahmut 24 May 2016 11: 23
                +17
                GDP has become even lower.
              2. Al1977
                Al1977 24 May 2016 17: 11
                -4
                Quote: SpnSr
                we are talking about people ... who are too much to bribe the price, grab, and topple off .....

                Can I HAVE ONE example ???? !!!! or will we speak with slogans? So you can immediately say that imperialism and capitalism are trying to strangle a Russian man who is alien to Western values. So even poetic.
                1. Spnsr
                  Spnsr 24 May 2016 17: 31
                  +9
                  Quote: Al1977
                  Quote: SpnSr
                  we are talking about people ... who are too much to bribe the price, grab, and topple off .....

                  Can I HAVE ONE example ???? !!!! or will we speak with slogans? So you can immediately say that imperialism and capitalism are trying to strangle a Russian man who is alien to Western values. So even poetic.

                  example, while large construction projects were going on, I’m not talking about those who are booming in the news, a company was founded that was engaged in subcontracts for construction, only the construction projects were over, the director dumped him in Cyprus! and people with whom he worked became taxi drivers! yes there are few examples, just look around, or the impression is that you are not communicating with anyone ... you can do more, but that’s enough, printing is a burden
                  By the way, the former director of the company arrives, business is here laughing tells how good it is about how it is here, he immediately takes out a cigarette and throws it out of the window of the atomic car, I ask, is that right? would you do that? to which I received an answer that there is not, everything is different there, I don’t want to litter there! it's so somewhat about an outsider, but overall about the mentality ...
                  1. Al1977
                    Al1977 25 May 2016 09: 32
                    +1
                    was founded a company that was engaged in subcontracts for construction, only construction projects ended the director dumped in Cyprus!

                    Are we, as it were, talking about some kind of uncle Vasya or about the scale of the country's economy?
                    How does this businessman of yours influence the development course of Russia?
                    Have you heard the proverb "A fish is looking for where is deeper, but where is a person better?"
                    What prevented contractors from choosing not those who "broke the price" ???
                    This is called demagoguery. I ask for an example of specifically people who are responsible now and determine the fate of Russia, who are the main thing to grab and dump? No, I know a lot of those here, too, but this information, as I was told on TV, comes from Western intelligence agencies, through the same Navalny, in order to ruin Russia, and therefore we have a patriot in power who thinks only about the good of Russia. So there is no need here all under one comb. Honest in our power and the point, or are you an employee of the State Department ???
                    1. Spnsr
                      Spnsr 25 May 2016 13: 08
                      -2
                      Quote: Al1977
                      at. Honest in our power and the point, or are you an employee of the State Department ???

                      where are honest, where are not honest? we are talking about types with a similar mentality, as in the example around! and in power! and if a person does not change, then whoever came to the Communist Party, a unit of Russia, or new ones, everything will be in the pipe! and where does it
                      Quote: Al1977
                      Are you an employee of the State Department ???

                      at the expense of others! and what does it have to do with it? it was that people dumped, leaving people! instead of looking for ways to develop your company! others, for example, build houses, according to Finnish technology, but they did not throw people after the departure of state investments!
                      and you last name first name with addresses of passport numbers? or do we start to change ourselves?
                      1. Al1977
                        Al1977 25 May 2016 15: 29
                        +2
                        Quote: SpnSr
                        where are honest, where are not honest? we are talking about types with a similar mentality, as in the example around! and in power! and if a person does not change, then whoever came to the Communist Party, a unit of Russia, or new ones, everything will be in the pipe!

                        Well, you know, from time to time I look for a joke by Kiselev, and I can assure you that the Russians (he, Kiselev for all are more visible to everyone) are just angels. In the west, the orcs live there, neither morality nor conscience. In the states, just not humans. Ukrainians-stupid people, Turks-. And only Russia against their background as d * Artonyan.
                        So there is no need here about the fact that the Russians love to steal and everything in the pipe. This is of course a slight irony all, but in fact, the mentality of people is one. Man has always killed, deceived and hated man. But this does not prevent some countries from living successfully, while others from surviving on the brink of poverty. And as we see it is not about natural resources. It's about the ruling elite. And certainly not in the "hucksters" that have been and will be (and where they are not ???)
                      2. Spnsr
                        Spnsr 25 May 2016 16: 42
                        0
                        Quote: Al1977
                        ... And certainly not in the "hucksters" that have been and will be (and where they are not ???)

                        including in the Duma and in power! not all of course! but...
                      3. Al1977
                        Al1977 25 May 2016 17: 26
                        0
                        Quote: SpnSr
                        including in the Duma and in power! not all of course! but...

                        all the more so in the Duma and in the authorities, the most persistent hucksters seep into it like sperm.
                      4. Spnsr
                        Spnsr 25 May 2016 19: 58
                        -1
                        Quote: Al1977
                        Quote: SpnSr
                        including in the Duma and in power! not all of course! but...

                        all the more so in the Duma and in the authorities, the most persistent hucksters seep into it like sperm.

                        laughing
                        for some reason it personally seems to me that the crisis is in my head! ...
              3. lestad
                lestad 25 May 2016 14: 04
                0
                thin sarcasm smile
              4. Konstantin Yu
                Konstantin Yu 26 May 2016 11: 20
                0
                Quote: Al1977
                What prevented contractors from choosing not those who "broke the price" ???
                This is called demagoguery. I ask for an example of specifically people who are responsible now and determine the fate of Russia, who are the main thing to grab and dump? No, I know a lot of those here, too, but this information, as I was told on TV, comes from Western intelligence agencies, through the same Navalny, in order to ruin Russia, and therefore we have a patriot in power who thinks only about the good of Russia. So there is no need here all under one comb. Honest in our power and the point, or are you an employee of the State Department ???


                No need for extremes, .. your conclusion is not enough to make imagination. The point is that those at the top, the same as those at the bottom, they did not come to us from the moon and were appointed, ... only one pack in the window, another tank spilled, the third did not need asphalt, the fourth plane crashed .. .. and you are honest and smart, where have you been? then at least go to the polls? Have you seen your candidate in the eye? Have you ever asked for business? .... and so, shampooing for yourself, until we get mad, and again for the old: "... share everything"
          4. Victor Demchenko
            Victor Demchenko 25 May 2016 13: 03
            +1
            you family name?
            Abramovich, now the late Berezovsky, still alive Gusinsky ... and these are only those who have grabbed more lard greens and shed over the hill ... what
            1. Al1977
              Al1977 25 May 2016 15: 17
              0
              Quote: Viktor Demchenko
              you family name?
              Abramovich, now the late Berezovsky, still alive Gusinsky ... and these are only those who have grabbed more lard greens and shed over the hill ...

              Are you definitely talking about 2016?
          5. 16112014nk
            16112014nk 25 May 2016 21: 26
            +3
            Quote: Al1977
            Could there be at least ONE example ??

            Well, for example.
      2. Am
        Am 24 May 2016 21: 20
        +2
        The saying about fish is always relevant, well, or you can still talk about the king and his entourage (boyars, I mean) ..
        1. mole
          mole 25 May 2016 19: 01
          -1
          Quote: Soy
          The saying about fish is always relevant, well, or you can still talk about the king and his entourage (boyars, I mean) ..

          And you did not think that everything is much trickier? Just for example, you can minus as much as you like!
          The project of bringing the constituent entities of the Russian Federation to the constitutional system - Ttarstan, Bashkortostan, etc. brought their Constitutions in line with the Constitution of the Russian Federation. The principle "take sovereignty as much as necessary" has been neutralized.
          Project oligarchs in power - where are they now? Not those who have a lot of "dough", but those who can really influence the decisions of the country's leadership? Where?
          The Chechnya-Chechnya project is the only subject that has not passed the stage of feudalism. What is now in Chechnya? Kadyrov Sr. — essentially transferred power to Kadyrov Jr., than not an element of the accelerated stage of passing the feudal system? What are the principles of Kadyrov Jr. now defends? The Foreign Ministry will give one more head start.
          Project Serdyukov- "Tabretkin" not related to the Army, prone to quick, easy profit, heads the MO! belay crying
          In the press, information about the reforms in the Moscow Region is negative. Then, at one point, the MO is headed by a normal manager. Within a short period of time, the Ministry of Defense is able to carry out almost any tasks facing it. Moreover, the Ministry of Defense, according to their purpose, are obliged to carry out tasks outside the Russian Federation, inside the Russian Federation - BB (National Guard).
          In anticipation of the completion of the project, Kudrin, Chubais, and ALL HUS are feeding them. Gaidar ...
    2. yushch
      yushch 24 May 2016 10: 12
      +6
      Actually, the crisis is not only in Russia, the crisis has been around the world for more than a year, but in our country it is also aggravated by sanctions. Well, as for the banking sector, which billions are swelling, few people like it, but if the banking system collapses, then everything else will collapse behind her. Unfortunately, these are the realities of the modern world, in all countries a lot of money is invested there.
      Well, as far as the crisis is concerned, I can say the following, of course, the deterioration is visible, but there is more talk of the crisis because we managed to avoid serious shocks.
      1. Hon
        Hon 24 May 2016 10: 42
        +14
        Quote: yushch
        In fact, the crisis is not only in Russia, the crisis in the whole world

        Therefore, did the USA have economic growth in 2015?
        1. yushch
          yushch 24 May 2016 10: 51
          +5
          You know, the concept of economic growth is so tricky. Moreover, all organizations that give calculations about the state of the US economy, and the world economy too, are controlled or belong to the same States. Well, the fact that the global crisis is evident from the fall in prices for natural resources, the production of goods falls, accordingly less steel, copper, aluminum, etc. are needed, respectively, and the price falls on raw materials.
          1. Hon
            Hon 24 May 2016 11: 00
            +12
            Quote: yushch
            Well, the fact that the global crisis is evident from the fall in prices for natural resources, the production of goods is falling

            In general, for natural resources, a drop in prices is beneficial for those who do not have them. For example, Germany is now clearly profitable to have cheap oil, and you can buy it in reserve, because production is growing, not falling. It’s also profitable for Germany to buy very much cheaper Russian gas, because its price has fallen by half, now it’s about $ 200. As a result, Germany's record economy growth for 2015
          2. gladcu2
            gladcu2 24 May 2016 14: 15
            +8
            yushch

            From the fact that production is not falling crisis. The need for goods is still present.

            The crisis is, first and foremost, the problem of not planning correctly.

            The problem of poor planning is hidden for many reasons.

            The first market itself creates planning problems.

            The second is not correct politically corrected statistical information, both within the borders of countries and the whole world.
            This stat information is not a pleasant thing to rely on, which is extremely dangerous.

            At the moment, we can say that the IMF banking sector holds a low interest on loans, but inside each country there are so-called domestic banking products. These are insurance groups and mortgages. There is a lot of speculation in this sector because there is not a high state level of control.
            Even the latest GDP statement to reduce mortgage loans will create terrible consequences in the future. It will respond immediately to an increase in the cost of housing. And guess two times who benefited from this.

            The problem of the crisis, a superficial look is the lack of money from consumers. Money is in the hands of the financial sector, which are not consumers. This is a classic crisis of capitalism.

            But a deeper look at the crisis is the lack of planning. This is a misconception that the market will automatically adjust the balance.

            There are even deeper processes that are at the head of the problem, but it’s too early to talk about them, because the public is not ready to hear them.
            I will leave this as an intrigue. Although there is no secret in this, they will not understand much.
            1. PHANTOM-AS
              PHANTOM-AS 24 May 2016 14: 41
              +17
              I have to repeat it.
              At night, in the country, somewhere in the barvikha!
              December 17 2014
              Putin:
              Good evening, you need to resolve the issue. Rosneft needs to pay off its bonds for crazy thousands of ye, there is no liquidity, Elvira, right? What are the suggestions?

              Nabiulina:
              Yes, now finding a currency is a problem, many corporations close the year, pay Eurobonds, the currency is priced, foreign markets are closed, there is no currency liquidity


              Putin:
              Igor, didn’t you pay off before?

              Sechin:
              Yes, damn it, who knew then .., Elvira dulled, did not beacon in time.

              Nabiulina:
              Well .., to predict the consequences of our wise geopolitics is very difficult ..

              Gref:
              Ty Yudaev, a macroeconomist, had to foresee and calculate!

              Putin:
              In short, colleagues, I'm listening to suggestions.

              Sechin:
              In general, the scheme is this: we issue bonds, German and Andrei buy everything up, and then they repeat it with the Elvirs, the grandmas received are convertible in ye. Profit

              Putin:
              How will this affect the course?

              Kostin:
              Fucking. But, technically, no one has anything to do with it, all the speculators are damned. In the media, we are indignant: the Americans strangle the country, rising from its knees. Then Sasha (Tkachev) will throw in, they say the Crimean needs to be repulsed, be patient, the Imperials. Break through, short.

              Putin:
              Elvira?

              Nabiulina:
              Frostbite. Raise the bet, such as the fight against speculators.

              Sechin:
              Elvira, current after the deal, not before, ok?

              Shuvalov, Gref:
              Yes, she understood!

              Putin:
              OK. So let's do it. If, at the peak, Yudaev is announced with salt and loudly announced, all the same, she doesn’t know a damn thing in macroeconomics, and we’ll just troll Elvira.

              Sechin:
              Can we salt? Yudaeva will not get off, I'm afraid :(

              Putin:
              No, you can’t merge, we’ll try to panic, we will sign our own stupidity.
              Sechin:
              And yes, we still have 8 billion for TNCs ...

              Putin:

              Dima, damn it, wake up!

              Medvedev:
              Who is there?!
        2. Irokez
          Irokez 24 May 2016 14: 47
          +3
          Quote: Hon
          Quote: yushch
          In fact, the crisis is not only in Russia, the crisis in the whole world

          Therefore, did the USA have economic growth in 2015?

          And who told you that they had an economic growth - the world media bought by this economy? Here is the increase in the sale of goods on the world market, yes, but it is a sale and purchase, and not a true indicator of production, and even with such a hefty debt to humanity. But you do not slyly notice everything in its entirety, but only that which is beneficial to you. This is called narrow see and narrow think.
          I tell everyone (and to you in particular) to look at all problems more widely and globally, and not only with your nose narrowly buried in Russia. And excuses that I’m not interested in what’s in there, but interesting in what’s here, are not accepted because it’s a complete lack of understanding of all world processes and that Russia is inextricably linked with these world processes.
          1. Hon
            Hon 24 May 2016 22: 05
            -1
            That is, everyone lies, there is no growth? It's just that everything is bought. So your way? Data on the US economy is open, as well as on the Russian economy
            1. atakan
              atakan 25 May 2016 00: 50
              +1
              Quote: Hon
              That is, everyone lies, there is no growth? It's just that everything is bought. So your way?

              Repeated capture by the hand
              - repeated billions of dollars in fines of confiscation from foreign banks and firms
              - manipulations with the rates and prices of gold.
              - manipulations with "excess" lost oil.
              - fake rating estimates from rating agencies.

              the list is huge.
              The era of the rise of the economy))
              1. Hon
                Hon 25 May 2016 08: 41
                -1
                Quote: atakan
                Repeated capture by the hand
                - repeated billions of dollars in fines of confiscation from foreign banks and firms
                - manipulations with the rates and prices of gold.
                - manipulations with "excess" lost oil.
                - fake rating estimates from rating agencies.

                the list is huge.
                The era of the rise of the economy))

                and how does this affect US life? what is the dollar against the ruble? maybe a lie, but traded at 67 rubles. for $ 1. How to deal with this? to wait until the USA finally decays? The union was also waiting, where is the union now?
                So do not believe in fairy tales about the alleged global crisis, we have a crisis, and this must be understood
      2. Vasiliev Yu
        Vasiliev Yu 24 May 2016 11: 43
        +17
        Quote: yushch
        Actually, the crisis is not only in Russia, the crisis has been around the world for more than a year, but in our country it is also aggravated by sanctions. Well, as for the banking sector, which billions are swelling, few people like it, but if the banking system collapses, then everything else will collapse behind her. Unfortunately, these are the realities of the modern world, in all countries a lot of money is invested there.
        Well, as far as the crisis is concerned, I can say the following, of course, the deterioration is visible, but there is more talk of the crisis because we managed to avoid serious shocks.

        I am always amazed at the politics and reasoning of such specialists. Is it okay that all bankers are on the Forbes list? They are all millionaires and billionaires, all their money is behind the cordon, they do not want to invest their money in long development, but how many times have I heard how they beg for budget money. And they are given, without stupid questions: `` Why don't you want to invest your money, why are you taking your money out of the country? '' And at the end of 2014, our banks brought down the ruble, the dollar doubled, the country found itself deep in a ... and who is severely punished for this? In China, they tried to do this later, the authorities quickly took to their nails those banks who tried to bring down the yuan.
        1. yushch
          yushch 24 May 2016 12: 28
          -4
          Quote: Vasilyev u
          Quote: yushch
          Actually, the crisis is not only in Russia, the crisis has been around the world for more than a year, but in our country it is also aggravated by sanctions. Well, as for the banking sector, which billions are swelling, few people like it, but if the banking system collapses, then everything else will collapse behind her. Unfortunately, these are the realities of the modern world, in all countries a lot of money is invested there.
          Well, as far as the crisis is concerned, I can say the following, of course, the deterioration is visible, but there is more talk of the crisis because we managed to avoid serious shocks.

          I am always amazed at the politics and reasoning of such specialists. Is it okay that all bankers are on the Forbes list? They are all millionaires and billionaires, all their money is behind the cordon, they do not want to invest their money in long development, but how many times have I heard how they beg for budget money. And they are given, without stupid questions: `` Why don't you want to invest your money, why are you taking your money out of the country? '' And at the end of 2014, our banks brought down the ruble, the dollar doubled, the country found itself deep in a ... and who is severely punished for this? In China, they tried to do this later, the authorities quickly took to their nails those banks who tried to bring down the yuan.


          I didn’t write myself down and say this. But judging by your statement of the problem, you clearly consider yourself a specialist. Do you have any idea how much money is flowing into the banking system ??? All the state of people from Forbes (Russian) is probably this amount is one tenth. For the money and children of our powerful abroad, change the training manual, it stinks of Western cliches. If you do not understand the banking system at all, see how many trillions of dollars the United States is pouring into its banking system.
          1. vladimirZ
            vladimirZ 24 May 2016 13: 47
            +28
            The crisis is not only the economy, the crisis of the entire capitalist system in Russia, weighed down by the fact that comprador officials and robber oligarchs crowded in power, destroying Russia and its economy, betraying our state.
            Only a blind person or a person who is not fully versed in politics and economics can not see this.
            Look at the financial system of RussiaThe Central Bank of the Russian Federation, guided by the patterns of the US Federal Reserve, stifles the entire economy, does not allow enterprises to develop simply to work, because of the high rates of the Central Bank of the Russian Federation, loans without which no enterprise can operate, are not lifting.
            Enterprises massively scale down their activities - they are "optimized" by cutting to a minimum, they fire workers and do not pay them their wages. Unemployment is growing. It is especially difficult in small towns and single-industry towns where unemployment is expected to increase to 20%.
            There is a movement in the defense sector, lending in a special manner, but there are also a lot of problems because of the decline of the entire economy of the country.
            Russia's budget is severely deficient and not replenished in the right amount reduce and reduce.
            Social programs are being cut, frozen salaries, pensions, increase the retirement age to 65 years, so as not to contain a large group of elderly people; eliminate free health care, education.
            To increase revenues to the state budget introduce new taxesFor example, the same transport "Platon", for property, is being worked out and has already been announced in a number of media outlets about an increase in the tax on income of citizens from the current 13% to 20%, and a tax on the unemployed.
            Failures in domestic politics are accompanied by failures in foreign policy, and whoever excuses will speak with the weak. The same China, Ukraine, Turkey, the European Union, even Mongolia, not to mention others.
            For example, the same Mongolia, which stated that it was dissatisfied with electricity tariffs supplied from Russia, with the help of China, began to work on the design and construction of a cascade of hydroelectric power stations (3 power plants) on the Selenga River, the main river that feeds Lake Baikal with water. That this threatens a major environmental catastrophe is not enough to say.
            And that no one sees the crisis in Russia?
            1. gladcu2
              gladcu2 24 May 2016 14: 34
              +2
              Vladimirz

              What you said is not a secret. Will you have any suggestions?

              The structure of the country can be represented in this way.

              The state, large private capital, people.
              The state is called upon to protect its citizens from external and internal enemies.
              People are citizens of the state who have a common morality for survival.
              Large private capital has a completely different system of values ​​and is not included in the concept of people, and also very conditionally refers to the citizenship of a country. Large private capital is the internal and external danger that can destroy any country.

              Which exit? The solution is that large private capital must be divided into smaller components and brought into the concept of the people, to give it a single system of survival. And for this it is necessary to strengthen the vertical of power. This is the fight against corruption and also the introduction of ACS. ACS are automatic control systems that will reduce the dependence of the state apparatus on a person.

              What can be done in the near future to improve the country's economy?

              Cut off incomes from the effects of imbalances in the economy, the impact of speculation in the market. Technically, let all absolutely salaries, including workers employed in temporary jobs and emigrants, pass through the state financial account. The employer pays the state, the employee receives his salary through the state social security number.
              No civil consent or referendum is required to carry out such a procedure.
              1. vladimirZ
                vladimirZ 24 May 2016 15: 03
                +11
                What you said is not a secret. Will you have any suggestions?
                - gladcu2 (2)

                One suggestion is to change the socio-political system of the state.
                Change it to a system in which there are no crises, return to socialism, a social state with an overwhelmingly socialized planned economy for the most important sectors of the economy and society.

                So that "the private owner is not more effective than the state", And the state is effective.
                To begin with, in the current elections to the State Duma, roll the liberal party of oligarchs and officials "United Russia" past it, so that they do not even get into the State Duma. Change rotten selling elite.
                If "nothing depended" on the people, they would not have fussed about in the election campaign.
                And then act on the Communist Party program to overcome the crisis and gradually change the social structure of the state.
                Say it doesn’t work out, the capitalists are in power: the robber oligarchs and corrupt officials hold tight in their hands, strengthen the power organs to suppress the people.
                This is so, but it is necessary to try to change the situation peacefully. Another alternative is just a lot of blood, which should be avoided.
                1. Bekas1967
                  Bekas1967 24 May 2016 15: 29
                  +10
                  With such an election system it’s impossible for a person to break through. There are some businessmen, athletes, and all sorts of girls .... I won’t specify.
                2. Spnsr
                  Spnsr 24 May 2016 16: 17
                  -7
                  Quote: vladimirZ
                  One suggestion is to change the socio-political system of the state.
                  Change it to a system in which there are no crises, return to socialism, a social state with an overwhelmingly socialized planned economy for the most important sectors of the economy and society.

                  is it back to where they fled 26 years ago?
                  but there is another way, this is to give small private owners to work on order!
                  tell me! Are you going to the store, let's say for groceries, buy Greek potatoes beautifully unpacked with a bright label, or Russian, not packaged and not washed?
                  in my view, the crisis, it is primarily in the minds! some break the price of their products due to the fact that imports are expensive, the difference in cost and sale prices does not invest in the expansion of production and the creation of new jobs! why, to a private trader, and so enough, but they are going to rest abroad !!!
                  others, even when the price is optimal for some kind of product, are still trying to bring down the price !!! and the difference with the money saved, instead of spending here, I’m not talking about expanding production, just spending it, is being taken abroad !!!
                  it's rough in general terms, you can disassemble a lot and meticulously, and still miss something ....
                  and I think the return to communism is not the topic! but to try to create social capitalism, excuse me for such a contradiction, it is to make the private traders with big capital and not only think about society .... I don’t know how, they just thought up there that they would raise the retirement age, but somehow it is necessary to provide pensioners, which may be more than working and paying taxes !!!
                  much is debatable, but first of all you need to start with yourself !!!
                3. vladimirZ
                  vladimirZ 24 May 2016 16: 35
                  +12
                  ... but there is another way, this is to let the small private owner work on order!
                  - SpnSr (2)

                  Socialism, a socially just state offered by the Communist Party of the Russian Federation, combines the state-public nature of production in the most important sectors of the economy with small and medium-sized businesses, which will issue you for an additional fee "beautifully unpacked Greek potatoes with a bright label."
                  By the way, similar socialism with the initiative of private small and medium artels producing consumer goods for the people, and during the war producing ammunition and other goods necessary for the army and the population, was under I.V. Stalin, if you did not know. This site has repeatedly featured articles on this topic.
                  Unfortunately, after Stalin, his detractors from Khrushchev and beyond destroyed this sector of the national economy, after which a constant deficit of one or the other arose in the USSR.
                  So that socialism, state capitalism with a social nature of production, with its correct organization, can provide not only social justice for everyone, but also a certain refinement in the form of your "Greek potato".
                4. Spnsr
                  Spnsr 24 May 2016 17: 19
                  +1
                  Quote: vladimirZ
                  Socialism, socially fair state, proposed by the Communist Party

                  as they say, the granny said for two, or a pitchfork in the water !!!
                  in the Communist Party, not that in small letters, it's like about everyone else, alt-shift is a heavy burden, the same people !!!
                  I understand that you need to conduct propaganda, (by the way, your cons do not push the Communist Party laughing ), but you so sincerely believe in the Communist Party, but exclude the fact of the presence of a person, the same as that of edros !!!
                  differently! what is the difference of the Communist Party, edrosi or bulk, yes, at least all together, if the mentality is the same, and what is the difference of the Communist Party, edrosi or bulk, yes, at least all together, if the mentality succeeds in changing? ...
                5. vladimirZ
                  vladimirZ 24 May 2016 17: 37
                  +3
                  ... if the mentality is the same, and what is the difference between the Communist Party, edros or bulk, but at least all together ...
                  - SpnSr (2)

                  It's not about the mentality.
                  The whole essence of the contradictions in the class struggle of the poor and the rich, exploited with the exploiters for the socially fair structure of society and the state.

                  Or is it new for you, or maybe forgotten, if you once knew, under the burden of liberal "noodles" so generously hung up by all of us by the liberal media?
                  The Communist Party is supported by the Marxist theory of the class struggle for a socially just state for all.
                  Edros and all sorts of bulk theories of the domination of the "golden calf", the domination of private property over the social nature of production, when a socially produced product is predatory seized by a private owner.
                  What is the mentality here?
                6. Spnsr
                  Spnsr 24 May 2016 17: 48
                  0
                  Quote: vladimirZ
                  The Communist Party is supported by the Marxist theory of the class struggle for a socially just state for all.
                  at the expense of Marx there are many different opinions! Well, that's not the point!
                  and the point is that you believe in Marxist ideas, though it’s kind of sincere, while others who push you to conduct propaganda here just wait for your propaganda to win and allow them to come to power in order to redistribute property and control financial flows and in their favor, but the people that will rub off! did not live well and do not start cue !!! just do not, excuse me, fables about purity of thoughts
                  and thoughts like people ...
                7. vladimirZ
                  vladimirZ 24 May 2016 19: 39
                  +3
                  ... the bottom line is that you now believe in Marxist ideas, though it seems like sincerely, and others who push you to conduct propaganda here ...
                  - SpnSr (2)

                  Nobody pushes me; I myself am convinced of the Marxist theory of classes. There is enough knowledge and experience gained in a Soviet university, and in comparison with what it was and what it has become.

                  ... when your propaganda wins and allows them to come to power in order to do the redistribution of property and control of financial flows and in their favor, and the people, that, will rub off! ...
                  - SpnSr (2)

                  Right now, people are wiping themselves away from unprecedented robbery and theft of the created system of power.
                  Right now, the redistribution of property continues in various raider seizures with the murder of people, the privatization of the remnants of state property, and in fact the plundering of state property, under the slogan "The private owner is more effective than the state."
                  Right now, the "control of financial flow" in the interests of the own pockets of those in power takes place regularly and constantly, from time to time with a premeditated purpose, the ruble is speculatively collapsing against foreign currencies, and in fact they are robbing the people through a double or triple decrease in the purchasing power of citizens.
                  The people have nothing to lose. It will only acquire production under the conditions of the social character of production in a socialist state, there will be a redistribution of the gross product, which now meets the whims of the oligarchs (yachts, sports clubs, palaces, personal liners, etc.), into public funds for free health care, education, social security in old age, for social housing, kindergartens and other national needs.
                  An example of this work of the Communists is the supervised Communist Party of the Moscow Region People's Enterprise, a former V.I. Lenin, who achieved great industrial successes, as well as significant social guarantees for workers. If you find it interesting on the internet, there is material.
                8. PHANTOM-AS
                  PHANTOM-AS 24 May 2016 20: 05
                  +2
                  Quote: SpnSr
                  they are just waiting for your propaganda to win and allow them to come to power in order to redistribute property and control financial flows to their own advantage, and the people will wipe themselves off! did not live well and do not start cue !!! just do not, excuse me, fables about purity of thoughts
                  and thoughts like people ...

                  eh-heh, so we are listening to Gorbachev-Ebnukscoptinsky propaganda ?! But we don’t want a Marxist one?
                  It's funny to listen to you.
                  "... enemies are different. There are class enemies who do not put up with
                  Soviet authorities and seek its overthrow at all costs. There are also
                  such class enemies who reconcile, one way or another, with Soviet power.
                  There are enemies who are trying to prepare the conditions for the overthrow of the dictatorship
                  proletariat. These are the Mensheviks, Socialist-Revolutionaries, Cadets and others. But there are some
                  enemies who collaborate with Soviet power and fight against those
                  who stand on the point of view of the overthrow of Soviet power, hoping that
                  the dictatorship will gradually weaken, reborn and will go later
                  towards the interests of the new bourgeoisie. "
                  ("VII Extended Plenum of the ECCI" v.9 p. 70) JV Stalin.
                  Wrecking of the bourgeois intelligentsia is one of the most dangerous forms
                  resistance against developing socialism. Wrecking all the more
                  it is dangerous that it is connected with international capital. Bourgeois wrecking
                  there is an indisputable indicator that the capitalist elements are far
                  didn’t lay down arms that they accumulate strength for new oppositions
                  Soviet power.
                  ("On the right deviation in the CPSU (b)" v.12 p.14.)
                9. Spnsr
                  Spnsr 24 May 2016 21: 43
                  -3
                  Quote: PHANTOM-AS
                  eh-heh, so we are listening to Gorbachev-Ebnukscoptinsky propaganda ?! But we don’t want a Marxist one?

                  What are you all treating? what will change? if I listen to your propaganda? just the fact that those who are grabbing will sit now, and others will grabbing!
                  and experience is literally experienced by you! what was different? and what did the communist society come to? besides, what are you now advocating with frenzy to leave? you are trying to convince the theory of CP to be correct, but in reality you are only advocating a change in the control of property (not by the state, but by you), and again, when the economy came to the same state, again through the collapse of the union, period 90, only it’s not going to control, but you !!! you my friend then turn on the brakes, so clearly call for the Sechins to give everything to you personally, and do not hide behind the idea of ​​kp, a cheap trick! and the stage passed, when one of the kp lived very well, and the others are no better than now !!!
                  Quote: PHANTOM-AS
                  Wrecking of the bourgeois intelligentsia is one of the most dangerous forms
                  resistance against developing socialism. Wrecking all the more
                  it is dangerous that it is connected with international capital. Bourgeois wrecking
                  there is an indisputable indicator that the capitalist elements are far
                  didn’t lay down arms that they accumulate strength for new oppositions
                  Soviet power.

                  you are pushing speeches, citing Stalin as an example, but judging by the available information, Stalin was an ascetic! and who is who, and he could afford the repressions attributed to him, if only to rearm the country, but if some kind of grabber in power allows himself to do so ... it will not be right !!!
                10. PHANTOM-AS
                  PHANTOM-AS 24 May 2016 22: 10
                  +3
                  Quote: SpnSr
                  What are you all treating? what will change? if I listen to your propaganda?

                  And I wonder for what kind of propaganda did this kid raise an attack?
                  This is definitely not for Putin!
                  Or have you forgotten everything ?!
                11. Spnsr
                  Spnsr 24 May 2016 22: 39
                  0
                  Quote: PHANTOM-AS
                  Quote: SpnSr
                  What are you all treating? what will change? if I listen to your propaganda?

                  And I wonder for what kind of propaganda did this kid raise an attack?
                  This is definitely not for Putin!
                  Or have you forgotten everything ?!

                  Yes, my friend you are blaspheming!
                  First, with your sacrilege, you have no faith!
                  you are a provocateur, for beautiful slogans and images, of those to whom you have nothing to do, you are trying to create the ground for another bloody redistribution of property! bloody because they won’t give so easily
                  and most importantly, you are the same as them, you just want to make their feeder yours, hiding behind the slogans of kp and photo
                12. PHANTOM-AS
                  PHANTOM-AS 24 May 2016 22: 48
                  +2
                  Quote: SpnSr
                  Yes, my friend you are blaspheming!
                  First, with your sacrilege, you have no faith!

                  let's, for starters in the photo POLITRUK !!!
                  And he didn’t go on the attack for your credit!
                  that’s not for Putin and Medvedev, or will we argue ?!
                13. Spnsr
                  Spnsr 24 May 2016 23: 15
                  -1
                  Quote: PHANTOM-AS
                  Quote: SpnSr
                  Yes, my friend you are blaspheming!
                  First, with your sacrilege, you have no faith!

                  let's, for starters in the photo POLITRUK !!!
                  And he didn’t go on the attack for your credit!
                  that’s not for Putin and Medvedev, or will we argue ?!

                  what does this photo have to do with it? you are generally very confused! and second, what does Putin’s medvedevvashcredit have to do with it!
                  or are you not very careful?
            2. okunevich_rv
              okunevich_rv 25 May 2016 07: 03
              0
              The word "boy" is not applicable to the Hero, the boy is a derivative of poz in Yiddish meaning male genital organ
      3. voffchik7691
        voffchik7691 24 May 2016 20: 48
        +1
        Well, a man believes, well, let him believe!
        Let people believe in goodness and justice rather than in the fact that a person is a wolf, and in a golden calf!
        "and others who push you to carry on propaganda here are just waiting for your propaganda to win and allow them to come to power in order to deal with the redistribution of property and control of financial flows in their favor"
        I can offer you to recall the saying: By themselves, people are not judged!
      4. PHANTOM-AS
        PHANTOM-AS 24 May 2016 22: 30
        0
        Quote: voffchik7691
        Well, a man believes, well, let him believe!
        Let people believe in goodness and justice rather than in

        A man must believe if he is a man!
        Quote: voffchik7691
        and experience is literally experienced by you! what was different?

        And you, dear, have you ever attacked the "spirits" head-on as part of a combined motorized rifle unit?
        or did you suddenly come up with a different tactic?
        Was online, colleague, ASAR.
        he wrote everything, discuss already ..., lazily
        Threat, provided you have one machine gun for everyone, open flanks and beck for half an hour. Howling son!
      5. Spnsr
        Spnsr 24 May 2016 22: 45
        0
        Quote: PHANTOM-AS
        And you, dear, have you ever attacked the "spirits" head-on as part of a combined motorized rifle unit?

        and you?
      6. PHANTOM-AS
        PHANTOM-AS 24 May 2016 23: 16
        0
        Under minoyetmmm, not only flanking bullet fire, at this, courageous supperr cool infantry, stupidly lays down, Go, War
      7. PHANTOM-AS
        PHANTOM-AS 24 May 2016 23: 37
        0
        Quote: PHANTOM-AS
        SpnSr (

        Bro, you poured a nickname take off, mly for hours
      8. Victor Demchenko
        Victor Demchenko 25 May 2016 13: 45
        +1
        translate, huh?
        No.
      9. Spnsr
        Spnsr 25 May 2016 16: 35
        0
        Quote: Victor Demchenko
        translate, huh?
        No.

        THE COMMENT BELOW I AM ALSO ABOUT ALSO! laughing
  2. Spnsr
    Spnsr 24 May 2016 23: 44
    -1
    Quote: PHANTOM-AS
    Under minoyetmmm, not only flanking bullet fire, at this, courageous supperr cool infantry, stupidly lays down, Go, War

    is it schizophrenia or excess alcohol? laughing
  3. Victor Demchenko
    Victor Demchenko 25 May 2016 13: 40
    0
    I disagree categorically with you: ALL of the current rulers of our long-suffering Motherland come from the CPSU. the same GDP could not work in KGBake without being a party member, this is an axiom! and the same Medvedev and everything from there !!!
  4. voffchik7691
    voffchik7691 24 May 2016 20: 34
    +8
    I do not believe in the Communist Party. Why believe in it? Is that Lord God? They are simply the only ones who are trying to reason our society, urging us to look around. And not just look, but also start to do specific things (restore industry, restore the education system). No matter what they say about Zyuganov, he is the only one who went to the GDP twice and tried to get support for the production of the NK-93!
    No matter how you scolded those times, but I did not see the homeless in the garbage!
    Almost every day on TV they show children who need money for treatment, because the state has no money for them! There are 400 rubles a month for State Duma deputies! There is 000 per month for Sechin, but not for children! Maybe you ask deputies or Sechin to share?
  5. Victor Demchenko
    Victor Demchenko 25 May 2016 13: 36
    0
    again, 1929-32 of the last century are remembered and ... doesn’t resemble anything? in my opinion you are for the NEP, but now there are no figures of the same scale as they were then. and how it ended you can see in the same three-volume volume of the History of the USSR. so there is no faith in the fellow communists! and more: can you remind who is guilty of the collapse of the USSR? however, all the Communists, the same revolutionary grandson and the same Chubais did not come from the street, and the first governments of Russia in the 90s were all from the same party.
  6. voffchik7691
    voffchik7691 24 May 2016 20: 17
    +3
    The conversation is not about returning to communism, but about creating a SOCIALLY oriented state! According to the constitution, medicine and education are free, but in reality? Silently for a long time (de facto) everything is already paid!
    "to make the surrounding private traders with big capital and not only think about society" and how do you make those who have been grabbing loot for 25 years, suddenly take and share? And most importantly, private traders can be entrusted with hairdressing salons, laundries, ateliers and other service sectors, but not the defense industry! Just think, if in 1941 some kind of plant belonged to, for example, Deripaska. Would he begin to transport it to the Urals, organize production there? Yes, he would just close it (to save the money) and dump it to Switzerland!
  7. Victor Demchenko
    Victor Demchenko 25 May 2016 13: 19
    -1
    Regarding the Communist Party: so, you can still see the voting in the State Duma under the Law on the Central Bank, when ONLY the LDPR voted for the re-subordination of the Central Bank to the state, and everyone else .... went to lunch? !!! ... you know , well, I don’t believe the current composition of the Communist Party, I don’t believe it! the same rake, only the teeth on the contrary ...
  • Oprychnik
    Oprychnik 24 May 2016 19: 56
    +1
    "Do you have any suggestions?"
    There is a crisis in everything, especially in the information sphere. I would prefer that instead of the rubbish that all my hundred ... twenty channels show around the clock, all of them would show Swan Lake around the clock.
  • Bekas1967
    Bekas1967 24 May 2016 15: 26
    0
    T r and of course. But who allows them to rob ??? Here is the answer to this question.
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    2. vladimirZ
      vladimirZ 24 May 2016 16: 18
      +18
      But who allows them to rob ??? Here is the answer to this question.
      - Bekas1967 (1)

      Who lets rob? We are all, all the people and allow. The fact that the bulk of the population does not go to the polls, votes for them, buying promises and appeals.
      You do not have to go far, the "primaries" of "United Russia", with what money the election commissions were bought, state and public buildings were given for them, ballots were printed.
      And the people who came to "vote" are not clear for what, poorly dressed, but cheerfully reporting to the camera that they vote "for ...", but in fact for the rich oligarchs and officials sitting on the neck of the people and robbing these ordinary people.
      There were 6,5 million of these voters in the "primaries", the next day there are already more than 10 million.
      An electoral "miracle" without brains and understanding of something, and thanks to which corrupt oligarchs and officials keep power in the country and exploit the people and Russia.
  • Breard
    Breard 26 May 2016 02: 39
    +1
    Everything is not as simple as it seems, everything is much simpler!
  • Victor Demchenko
    Victor Demchenko 25 May 2016 13: 13
    0
    Quote: yushch
    Regarding the money and children of our powerful people abroad, change the manual, it stinks of Western cliches. If you do not understand the banking system at all, see how many trillions of dollars the United States is pouring into its banking system.

    interesting, and why not ask these very "powerful" about their funds abroad? After all, as far as I remember, there was even a decree of the GDP, or the resolution of our Duma, do you understand exactly about money abroad? ... and about studying abroad ... I have my own opinion.
  • silver_roman
    silver_roman 24 May 2016 11: 48
    +13
    Quote: yushch
    In fact, the crisis is not only in Russia, the crisis has been around the world for more than a year, but in our country it is also aggravated by sanctions.

    The main thing to understand here is: REASON FOR THE CRISIS! In us and in Western countries they are different. We have it structurally, because run the economy with rabble and crooks. In the West, they simply fattened on credit, and so the bubble reached its limit. They are pure jackals: you will not devour your neighbor, you will not live!
    So as long as we carry the whirlpool of "liberasty", as long as we put up with all sorts of ulyukayev kudrininabiulins, etc., there will be no order.
    And now there will be a presentation of 3 projects for the development of the Russian economy. The authors are simply stunned: ULYUKAYEV, KUDRIN and co-authorship of Glazyev and a couple of guys. While the opinions of the first two are generally considered, everything WILL BE BAD!
    1. AlexW
      AlexW 24 May 2016 12: 23
      -2
      No one in this world possesses "the ultimate truth". I am impressed by Glazyev, there is a rational grain in Ulyukaev's project, but Kudrin also has it. To some extent, he is right - no matter how much money is poured into the economy, if there is no effective control, an efficient legal, judicial system, everything will be in vain. All will be plundered, taken away to offshores and it will only get worse. Obviously, a compilation of three economic development projects will be accepted with subsequent adjustments as the situation develops.
      1. gladcu2
        gladcu2 24 May 2016 14: 50
        +5
        AlexW

        All of you named economists have one feature that will not allow to change the situation for the better. All that they offer is a transfusion from empty to empty.
        The reason for their behavior is that they do not want or cannot translate capitalism into a new quality. Capitalism has about 300 years, and constantly brings war with its crises. This system has progress as long as there is a material resource on the market. As soon as this resource forms large private capital, the system comes to a crisis. All material resources are pumped into one hand. Life has stopped.

        The answer is, we need to systematically change the system to translate it into a new quality. And this can only be done with the growth of education, system education.

        But the problem is the ideology of capital. Capital is able to protect itself and, using its resource, first of all destroys education.
      2. voffchik7691
        voffchik7691 24 May 2016 21: 30
        +3
        "but Kudrin also has it. To some extent he is right - no matter how much money is thrown into the economy, if there is no effective control, an efficient legal, judicial system, everything will be in vain. Everything will be stolen, taken away to offshore companies and it will only get worse"
        And so we'll just take the money out of our economy and send it to Uncle Sam! Our industry is in ruins! Instead of reviving the industry, purchasing new equipment, technologies, we again, under the leadership of the "BEST MINISTER OF FINANCE" from the point of view of the State Department, will buy 5-10 billion worth of debt obligations at a meager percentage (toilet paper)!
        And by the way, who is stealing? Simple folks? No! These thieves can be counted on one hand. Call to the GDP and say "Guys, that's enough! You have already grabbed for a couple of generations, it's time to work for the country! Here is your object, here is yours. You will answer personally for the result!" I do not urge them to shoot - we are not 37 years old, because the GDP does not give up its own! And the fact that they substitute him and discredit (15% of his theses in May have been completed) does he not see?
    2. Vadim237
      Vadim237 25 May 2016 09: 57
      -4
      The crisis arose because of falling commodity prices, and with it the consumption of all goods and services - the same thing happened in Russia
  • INTER
    INTER 24 May 2016 12: 19
    +11
    Quote: yushch
    Actually, the crisis is not only in Russia, the crisis has been around the world for more than a year, but in our country it is also aggravated by sanctions. Well, as for the banking sector, which billions are swelling, few people like it, but if the banking system collapses, then everything else will collapse behind her. Unfortunately, these are the realities of the modern world, in all countries a lot of money is invested there.

    And what does the global crisis have to do with it? We are a self-sufficient country, funny !!!!!
    Russia is not Malaysia and Singapore, and not Japan. We have everything why we should be tied to the dollar, to the world economy. With a competent economic policy, we can live happily ever after, they will be bent in the long run because we have everything. What we do not have is political will, a rigid order and the creative development of peoples, and we need to start all with education.
    And at the expense of the crisis, it is necessary to nationalize all the large enterprises, to direct all funds to the social and military development of the country. IT NEEDS TO FINALLY UNDERSTAND, WE DO NOT NEED ECONICS AND FIGURES 5-6-7% GROWTH, WE NEED A NORMAL LIFE WITH A COUNTRY WHERE GAS ANYWHERE GAS LIGHT NORMAL EDUCATION, HEALTH, DEFENSE, ZARPARA!
    1. yushch
      yushch 24 May 2016 12: 35
      0
      Quote: INTER
      Quote: yushch
      Actually, the crisis is not only in Russia, the crisis has been around the world for more than a year, but in our country it is also aggravated by sanctions. Well, as for the banking sector, which billions are swelling, few people like it, but if the banking system collapses, then everything else will collapse behind her. Unfortunately, these are the realities of the modern world, in all countries a lot of money is invested there.

      And what does the global crisis have to do with it? We are a self-sufficient country, funny !!!!!
      Russia is not Malaysia and Singapore, and not Japan. We have everything why we should be tied to the dollar, to the world economy. With a competent economic policy, we can live happily ever after, they will be bent in the long run because we have everything. What we do not have is political will, a rigid order and the creative development of peoples, and we need to start all with education.
      And at the expense of the crisis, it is necessary to nationalize all the large enterprises, to direct all funds to the social and military development of the country. IT NEEDS TO FINALLY UNDERSTAND, WE DO NOT NEED ECONICS AND FIGURES 5-6-7% GROWTH, WE NEED A NORMAL LIFE WITH A COUNTRY WHERE GAS ANYWHERE GAS LIGHT NORMAL EDUCATION, HEALTH, DEFENSE, ZARPARA!


      Self-sufficient countries do not exist in nature. Even the USSR was not a self-sufficient country, although it has achieved a lot in this direction. And those who want to live well at the expense of others on a global level do not give us good life in the country.
      1. voffchik7691
        voffchik7691 24 May 2016 21: 36
        0
        “Even the USSR was not a self-sufficient country!
        Nevertheless, they supported themselves and fed half the world! Although it might be if they had not fed half the world, it would have been enough for their people!
  • Al1977
    Al1977 24 May 2016 17: 14
    +2
    Quote: yushch
    Actually, the crisis is not only in Russia, the crisis in the whole world is not one year old

    Let's compare inflation "around the world" and ours? Let's compare the salary of Germany or France, where the "crisis in the whole world" has gone wild, and where the situation is aggravated by sanctions and, in addition to everything else, by terrorists and migrants !!!!!
  • bondarencko
    bondarencko 25 May 2016 12: 21
    +1
    In the 20-30s of the last century, it was somehow not customary in the USSR to speak of sanctions and a crisis in the world. Govorunov Stalin removed the forest to build the state, and the rest rolled up their sleeves and built the country, after which they broke the ridge of the entire European military machine.
  • Al1977
    Al1977 25 May 2016 15: 20
    0
    Quote: yushch
    the crisis has been around the world for more than one year, but in our country it is exacerbated by sanctions.

    So in Europe the same sanctions, plus our counter-sanctions, and even migrants, terrorist attacks, Americans, who, as many here say, occupied them. That's where "don't breathe a breath")))) And nothing ... how they live ..))))
  • Lt. Air Force stock
    Lt. Air Force stock 24 May 2016 11: 36
    +8
    Quote: leshiy076
    All this is done so that the rich become richer and the poor poorer. Recall the year 2008. Then everyone, including GDP, said that it was necessary to support the banking sector and merged more than half of the stabilization fund there.

    Naturally, take at least millionaires, for example, they bought a million euros for 45 million rubles, and sold for 90 million rubles when the euro jumped. And if a million is not one ...
    This is partly why the ruble so galloped so much that the enormous sums of money the powerful of this world drove back and forth ...
  • g1v2
    g1v2 24 May 2016 16: 22
    -6
    Interesting movie. In 2008 there was a global crisis and our economy dipped by 10 percent. They didn’t run into us specifically then. Now we are hit by a global hegemon with Europe and other vassals, we were cut off loans, imposed sanctions, the oil price dropped to $ 30, because of which we lost $ 2015 billion in 150, we are conducting military operations, forced import substitution, we are preparing for championship 2018, we are re-equipping the army and a huge number of infrastructural production, etc. And all that our opponents were able to achieve was a reduction of the economy by 3,5 percent, from the 5th place in the GDP (PPS) we dropped to the sixth, letting Germany forward, while we are still actively reducing our debts. 6 years ago, without collisions, the economy collapsed by 10 percent, and now they hit us in full and all they could - 3,5.
    Guys, how are you going to fight the west then, if in such hothouse conditions snot has already started to flow? "Ay, I can't buy a new car - I'll have to go on a three-year trip, ah beer has risen in price - down with the government." Heroes, your division. You also stutter about your ancestors. DO YOU WANT KYLO IN THE TEETH AND THE BAM? And to equip a firing point in the ruins of your house? And for Donbass to come to your home? Well, shut up and work, teach children, want to vote. What action do you want? Are you drawn to the barricades? Is the Maidan dreaming? Well, don't cry with bloody snot then. The neighbors showed you where the barricades lead. Smart - that's enough, stupid - the National Guard will explain, I hope. am
  • Pilat2009
    Pilat2009 24 May 2016 16: 33
    0
    Quote: leshiy076
    It’s time, comrades, for the barricades.

    Maybe on the Maidan?
    By the word "on the barricades" means the beginning of an armed struggle
  • go21zd45few
    go21zd45few 25 May 2016 05: 30
    0
    Greek 32: And what changes do you expect from our mediocre financial and economic bloc of government headed by the same mediocre prime minister. Only a fool. Instead of reassuring a pensioner, he brazenly declared that there was no money to index pensions. At a time when top managers are getting more expensive, top managers are getting richer, billions of money are stolen and offshore when the government and law enforcement agencies are inactive. All power in Russia is corrupt, anti-popular.
    One gets the impression that the government deliberately pushes people to the events of 1917 of the last century.
    1. Hon
      Hon 25 May 2016 08: 49
      0
      Quote: go21zd45few
      Only a halfwit. Instead of reassuring a pensioner, brazenly announced that there was no money for indexing pensions.

      but it was an honest answer, unlike any radiant conferences, where everything is fine like the Marquise
  • bylec
    bylec 24 May 2016 06: 58
    +18
    people just become impudent and under (supposedly crisis) are welded
    1. bandabas
      bandabas 24 May 2016 07: 38
      +11
      And they are welded with "crocodile tears in my eyes" and with the words "But pasaran. The crisis will not pass."
    2. Spnsr
      Spnsr 24 May 2016 08: 20
      +5
      Quote: bylec
      people just become impudent and under (supposedly crisis) are welded
      agree with you! under the type of "crisis" through a reduction in wages and their delay, they seized money and instead of investing in the economy, for example, expanding their production, "they go to Courchevel !!!"
    3. ruAlex
      ruAlex 24 May 2016 10: 43
      +3
      Here, as in the well-known proverb "to whom the war, and to whom the mother is dear", so with the crisis there will always be those who want to profit from this.
    4. gladcu2
      gladcu2 24 May 2016 16: 37
      +2
      bylec

      The crisis lies precisely in the fact that someone is enriched, while someone is impoverished. Enriched units, and impoverished en masse.

      The explanation in the term is capitalism. This refers to the transfer of all money or resources from one hand to the detriment of another.

      And this is not because the capitalist, good or bad. And the fact that it is impossible in another way. Such a system.
  • evgenii67
    evgenii67 24 May 2016 07: 05
    +12
    Quote: kod3001
    For me, little has changed in life, but prices have grown, and most importantly, all employers have begun to use a word like crisis and regularly detain zp, and in my opinion little has changed!

    just like in the song "Everything is fine, beautiful marquise"
    All is well, beautiful marquise
    All is well. more than ever
    s / n delayed everywhere
    After all, this is the right nonsense

    All is well, beautiful marquise
    And we have good things
    But here only the prices have grown a little and the next tax has been introduced ... laughing
  • Gray brother
    Gray brother 24 May 2016 08: 13
    +5
    Quote: kod3001
    Yes, prices have grown and most importantly, all employers have begun to use a word like crisis

    I didn’t have to hear about delays from anyone, however, I don’t know about people whose salaries are significantly indexed.
    1. kotvov
      kotvov 24 May 2016 11: 59
      +2
      however, I don’t know people who have any significant salary indexed. ,,
      as they say, what you haven’t heard is your concern. But take an interest in increasing the income of Nabibulina or her deputies.
      1. Gray brother
        Gray brother 24 May 2016 16: 26
        0
        Quote: kotvov
        take an interest in increasing the income of Nabibulina or her deputies.

        I do not care about their income and I absolutely do not care - they ride a Bentley or live in cardboard boxes. He needs to worry about his own.
        1. gladcu2
          gladcu2 24 May 2016 16: 42
          0
          Gray brother

          That's right, you have to worry about your own.

          In fact, ideally, according to your opinion, the economy should look in the following form. The rich should be rich, and the poor should be well off.
        2. voffchik7691
          voffchik7691 24 May 2016 22: 14
          +5
          What did the one on the right that he receives (DOES NOT EARN!) More professional with 40 years of experience!
          1. voffchik7691
            voffchik7691 24 May 2016 22: 39
            +2
            He wrote, wrote, and the text is gone!
            This photo is for the Gray Brother! "I don't care about their income" - I agree only if they have done the CORRECTIVE for the country!
            And what did the one on the right in the photo, if he receives (does not earn!) More than a professional with 40 years of experience!
            The same is the case with nabiulina. For what she does with our economy, she needs to go to the US Embassy for a salary!
            But in the case of Primakov and Gerashchenko, for the fact that they brought the country out of default, such a salary (like the one on the right) would be just right!
            1. Vadim237
              Vadim237 25 May 2016 10: 08
              0
              They simply put Sechin on the top chair in a large state-owned company, and there the company gives him a salary and supplies him with shares and he has more than one million, hence the income.
      2. Victor Demchenko
        Victor Demchenko 26 May 2016 06: 35
        0
        Quote: kotvov
        as they say, what you haven’t heard is your concern. But take an interest in increasing the income of Nabibulina or her deputies.

        Dvorkovich, Chubais must be added to this list, and now Stouretkin as the head of the management company (Lord, have you really heard our prayers and began to act "I will repay according to their deeds ...") and many more officials! laughing
  • Yars
    Yars 24 May 2016 09: 54
    -4
    Quote: kod3001
    For me, little has changed in life, but prices have grown, and most importantly, all employers have begun to use a word like crisis and regularly detain zp, and in my opinion little has changed!

    so all over the world today. In Germany, for example, the retirement age has already been brought to 70! Capitalism is dying .....
    1. Hon
      Hon 24 May 2016 12: 45
      +1
      Quote: YARS
      so all over the world today. In Germany, for example, the retirement age has already been brought to 70! Capitalism is dying .....

      they have a lifespan of 81; we have 70; for a long time they will die like this
      1. Yars
        Yars 26 May 2016 22: 58
        0
        Quote: Hon
        Quote: YARS
        so all over the world today. In Germany, for example, the retirement age has already been brought to 70! Capitalism is dying .....

        they have a lifespan of 81; we have 70; for a long time they will die like this

        we are talking about a system and not about people, and besides, you know that from 2002 to 2013, the population of Germany decreased from 89 million to 80 million people, and this with such a huge migration ?!
    2. voffchik7691
      voffchik7691 24 May 2016 22: 46
      0
      Working day from 10:00 to 17:00, 35 hour week.
      http://weekend.rambler.ru/read/2016/05/24/vypusknik-mgimo-o-zhizni-v-giermanii/?
      utm_campaign = brain & utm_medium = rec & utm_source = rambler & utm_content = weekend
  • VNP1958PVN
    VNP1958PVN 24 May 2016 11: 44
    +2
    Prices and arrogance bar.yg constantly growing. Is this not enough to increase social tension?
    1. Al1977
      Al1977 24 May 2016 17: 26
      0
      Quote: VNP1958PVN
      Prices and arrogance bar.yg constantly growing.

      What are you talking about huckster? Can I have at least one living example? I am sure that keep silent, the main thing is to write nonsense and get a plus sign.
      1. Spnsr
        Spnsr 24 May 2016 17: 40
        +1
        Quote: Al1977
        Quote: VNP1958PVN
        Prices and arrogance bar.yg constantly growing.

        What are you talking about huckster? Can I have at least one living example? I am sure that keep silent, the main thing is to write nonsense and get a plus sign.

        especially for you laughing Tatarstan, Raifsky Source water, the cost of water a penny, even if through North American filters purchased for green, in one store 15 rubles in the rest of 20 and above!
        in the same place, advertisements like siding are produced there, production costs are two times lower than those brought from the west, but in advertisements, it is plainly said that the sale price is the same as imported products and the funniest thing is that it’s all broadcasted by the FM of Tatarstan, he voiced everything in plain text, and adds that it’s a sin not to take this opportunity to earn !!!
  • Constructor1
    Constructor1 24 May 2016 12: 18
    +5
    Nothing has changed in terms of wages, but prices have increased markedly. And not 30-40% as "ANALYTICS" say, but 200-250%. I judge by the daily expenses on food for the family, so until 2014 I spent a max of 300-350 rubles in the store, but now (for the same set of products) I spread min 750-850 rubles.

    If earlier, by the end of the month, there was always a reserve of 12-15 thousand rubles (which was spent, for example, on the purchase of things / repair / summer cottage / etc.), Now 5000 is not left.

    So they squeezed all the expenses.
  • Maxom75
    Maxom75 24 May 2016 20: 59
    +4
    Salary delayed? I myself pay a salary and in order to pay it on time I sold the car, the cottage and the apartment that I had left from my grandmother for my daughter. I delivered agricultural products to networks; according to the law, they must pay me after 45-60 days. In fact, they pay through 120-180. Plus, they take 10% charge for the shelf and 20-25% from me (give cash on their internal expenses). And I have to pay salaries, bonuses, sick leave for 180 days? A bank loan at 35% per annum and do not come. What am I to climb into the loop? And the network manager tells me: Crisis - Western loans are expensive, but we don’t have enough money for everyone. Here we are at your expense and spin. And then everything is reflected in the price on the shelf. So much for inflation and rising prices.
    1. voffchik7691
      voffchik7691 24 May 2016 22: 49
      0
      So what is this not a crisis? Moreover, the system!
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  • siberalt
    siberalt 24 May 2016 06: 24
    +42
    The internal threat to Russia will be determined by a stupid unwillingness to change the system and the economic model. Russia is still a peripheral structure of the Fed and works exclusively for it. Instead of injecting into the economy, we again buy American securities and put money aside in a reserve fund, which indicates a complete dependence on the US printing press. All conditions have been created for the oligarchic system. Only banks benefit from currency speculation. The reliance on medium-sized business instead of the sectoral government and the floating ruble exchange rate deliberately kill the formation of industry in its infancy, for it deprives the possibility of any planning and leads the country into the abyss. For anyone interested, watch The Important Person with Presidential Adviser Glazyev.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 24 May 2016 07: 01
      -1
      Quote: siberalt
      leads the country into the abyss. For anyone interested, watch The Important Person with Presidential Adviser Glazyev.

      Glazyev? And this is the same Glazyev who recently said that it was necessary to support bankers wassat
      1. siberalt
        siberalt 24 May 2016 08: 06
        0
        Can I have a reference? Not that the context is not visible. Cons are not mine.
      2. leshiy076
        leshiy076 24 May 2016 08: 10
        -5
        Yes, that same friend of Chubais and Gaidar.
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      4. Hon
        Hon 24 May 2016 10: 09
        +3
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Glazyev? And this is the same Glazyev who recently said that it was necessary to support bankers

        In 1987-1991, he was a member of an informal group, mostly young, of economists (E. G. Gaidar, S. M. Ignatiev, A. L. Kudrin, A. B. Chubais and others), who held seminars that discussed measures to reform the Soviet economy. Sergey Glazyev: “No one thought that the country's development would go like that”
    2. Andrey NM
      Andrey NM 24 May 2016 08: 18
      +8
      And even more interesting. We enter the borrowing market to cover our deficit, while buying American "securities". And immediately cover your deficit without buying pieces of paper from a foreign country?
    3. alicante11
      alicante11 24 May 2016 08: 26
      +21
      stupid unwillingness to change the system and economic model.


      They DO NOT WANT. They can not. Because with all the relative freedom, the GDP has several "red lines" for which it cannot cross. For example - the liberal-monopoly economy and the protection of capital obtained in the 90s by dishonest means. These two points allow oligarchs to feel comfortable in any crisis. And in exchange for that, they give GDP a mandate of trust.
      However, we will not achieve anything by moving away from the liberal-monopoly capitalism model to the market one. There are two reasons, globally speaking, monopoly capitalism is a higher (and, therefore, effective) level of economic development than market capitalism. Of course, this is not so obvious for you and me, because we are at the very bottom of the economic pyramid. But, you must admit that large monopolies are always stronger than small private owners. Starting from the possibility of dumping, and ending with the possibilities of attracting administrative resources. Therefore, a return to a less progressive economic order presupposes a breakdown of a higher one, which is impossible without large-scale cataclysms. Simply put, the oligarchs will not let the oligarchs cut their rights and incomes in favor of small private owners. And the second reason is that the entire world economy is monopolistic. Our private trader will not be able to cope with the dumping of Chinese commodity and agricultural producers. Agroholdings are needed to compete in the food market, and in the area of ​​consumer goods, funds to fight the Chinese have not yet been found. Therefore, it makes no sense to talk about complete import substitution. This is economically ineffective and therefore domestic producers will not survive. The only option is to close the market, either by strong economic or administrative barriers. But this weapon will hit the incomes of the exporting oligarchs, against whom similar barriers can also be introduced. What in this situation, the oligarchs can not go. Well, they do not want to limit their profits, they already did it in "zero", now is the time to cut coupons "and niipet".
      The problem of the current economy can be solved only in one way - nationalization and a return to a planned economy. This will immediately remove all unnecessary "cheating" in economic chains and competition. And it will also allow you to more reasonably apply tariffs and the price tag (in the case of a competent pricing policy, of course). This will simultaneously reduce the costs of the manufacturer and increase the purchasing power of consumers. But there is no place for oligarchs in this system. And therefore its application is impossible.
      1. DimerVladimer
        DimerVladimer 24 May 2016 10: 19
        +1
        Quote: alicante11
        the problem of the current economy can be solved only in one way - nationalization and a return to a planned economy. This will immediately remove all unnecessary "cheating" in economic chains and competition.


        We have already gone through the "planned economy" - the coupon distribution system, the shortage of industrial goods and other joys of socialist "production".

        In modern conditions - state-owned corporations are the most inefficient - for example, Gazprom cannot calculate the cost of 1000 cubic meters of gas - its cost system is so opaque, its subsidiaries are confused.
        At the same time, I know for sure that the exclusive suppliers of Gazprom take equipment from me and with their 15-30% wrap they sell into a monopoly - because they are monopoly suppliers to a monopoly. Guess who the founders of these exclusive suppliers are?
        And so throughout the state system, even in the GUFSiN system, you simply cannot get a supply contract. 90-97% of all government contracts come with kickbacks and with an additional margin, and electronic tenders only slightly "complicated" this process of "cutting".
        So the smaller the state will be in the economy, the better for the country.
        And then perhaps new Russian tanks will cost less than the Leopard-2 of the latest modification.
        1. dauria
          dauria 24 May 2016 12: 49
          +1
          We have already gone through the "planned economy" - the distribution coupon system, the shortage of industrial goods and other joys of socialist "production" .... because they are monopoly suppliers to the monopoly. Guess who the founders of these monopoly suppliers are?


          Yes, there were no coupons in the mid-seventies. And the sausage with chocolate "Mishka clubfoot" carriages was not gagged - it was a little expensive ... just in moderation. And the "founders" whom you are afraid of - where will they get the "stolen" if under the old system they came and asked: "Comrade, where are you from? You don't seem to be a laureate ..?" And the prime cost of the tank was as much as it costs ... No more, no less. But the price for it was APPOINTED, infringing or vice versa, encouraging something else- Well, this is the strongest lever for the economy.

          And alicante11 is right, even in the USA the planned component in the economy is already visible. And we rams left her.
          1. voffchik7691
            voffchik7691 24 May 2016 23: 25
            0
            Kalashnik, for example, at cost was 96 rubles!
            I will never believe that the capitalist is doing something without planning ahead!
            They plan everything and not one year in advance. This is our graduates of the Higher School of Economics, they instilled such dogma!
        2. alicante11
          alicante11 24 May 2016 13: 00
          +5
          We have already gone through the "planned economy" - a coupon distribution system, a shortage of industrial goods and other joys of socialist "production.


          Poorly passed, the coupon system was literally a few months at the end of the 80's, when the economic machine of the USSR was already destroyed, and the process was completely unnatural.

          shortage of industrial goods


          They successfully fought with him, but this is better than if the goods are lying, and it is impossible to approach them. Though not so offensive.

          other joys of socialist "production".


          It’s like free education, housing, a meager rent, guaranteed paid rest and the assurance that tomorrow you will not have to run around in search of work. It is these joys that impress me more.

          In modern conditions - state-owned corporations are the most inefficient - for example, Gazprom cannot calculate the cost of 1000 cubic meters of gas - its cost system is so opaque, its subsidiaries are confused.


          You are a naive person, however, do you think that top managers of Gazprom will let someone cheat themselves? Yes, they are bonuses to any accountant and gnaw out the liver and brain. So for those who need it, they know the cost perfectly. What is in the mother, what is in the daughters.

          At the same time, I know for sure that the exclusive suppliers of Gazprom take equipment from me and with their 15-30% wrap they sell into a monopoly - because they are monopoly suppliers to a monopoly. Guess who the founders of these exclusive suppliers are?


          ANY LARGE CORPORATION is engaged in this. Because people want to live if there is such an opportunity.

          And so throughout the state system, even in the GUFSiN system, you simply cannot get a supply contract. 90-97% of all government contracts come with kickbacks and with an additional margin, and electronic tenders only slightly "complicated" this process of "cutting".


          Do you think that in large commercial corporations is wrong? I, at the time of doing business, 6 years worked on public procurement. At the same time, in commercial corporations, even where, it seems, the competition was announced, it is arranged so that they don’t even explain why you lost, unlike state-owned companies, which at least follow the rules for the blazer and something can be done because of this snatch.

          So the smaller the state will be in the economy, the better for the country.
          And then perhaps new Russian tanks will cost less than the Leopard-2 of the latest modification.


          In Soviet times, they cost less than the western ones.
        3. AlexW
          AlexW 24 May 2016 13: 36
          0
          Quote: DimerVladimer
          We have already gone through the "planned economy" - the coupon distribution system, the shortage of industrial goods and other joys of socialist "production".

          Rumble from one extreme to another. A 100% planned economy is either a free, uncontrolled market. Both have pros and cons. Obviously, any bourgeois will invest only where he will receive a quick big income. He will not build a BAM or a spaceport - steal yes, but not invest for decades. At the same time, the so-called planned economy is not able to respond to a rapidly changing market, satisfy the immediate needs of people. IMHO needs a symbiosis. The state should carry out planning and control of economic development in including private business. All large, crucial, promising projects for the state (there should not be monopolistic oligarchs here) - everything else is for medium and small businesses.
          1. alicante11
            alicante11 24 May 2016 14: 50
            +3
            Rumble from one extreme to another. 100% planned economy - or a free, uncontrolled market


            Provision of consumer goods, part of the food sector, should be small; entrepreneurship is possible there. Because small entrepreneurs respond more quickly to changes in market conditions. And they better satisfy the demand in this territory. And large-scale industry should be state owned and work according to plan. Nothing new, still coming from the IVS.
        4. gladcu2
          gladcu2 24 May 2016 17: 18
          +1
          Dimer Vladimir

          There was already a smaller state in the economy. This is your 90s. Heh, a lot of joy, right?

          There was already more state, it was Stalinist socialism. There was a lot of joy and the country was able to revive and defeat the strongest enemy on the planet almost alone. And the country was a super power.

          This is precisely the country that was the monopoly on all capital produced. And thanks to the financing of basic science and education, this country had unlikely development opportunities.

          But as always, everything is artificially not forever.

          The destruction of this country occurred according to ideology. When ideology has undergone degeneration.

          Ideology is an artificially changed morality. And morality is a natural system of survival in society. Therefore, ideology cannot be put at the basis of the state.
        5. voffchik7691
          voffchik7691 24 May 2016 23: 21
          0
          For buy - sell, yes, it would be better if there were no state in the economy! And yet, that no one would interfere with what percentage I want to wind up! They told us that the market will regulate itself! For example, the big three MTS, Bee Line, Megaphone. Why do they have almost the same tariffs? Because no one is following them with a club in their hands! So they do what they want!
          And in case of war, what will the private trader do (don’t buy - sell, but the manufacturer)? He will collect his belongings and dump him where they don’t shoot! Or do you seriously think that he will develop production in the Urals for his loot?
          Or maybe it’s not the presence of the state in the economy, but the fact is that our laws do not work? If Suddenly the GDP decides that it’s enough to steal, and it’s not punitive that he will punish not Uncle Vanya from the street, but those who are engaged in cheating in Gazprom (PEOPLE DOMESTIC), you look and Armata will become cheaper!
          About coupons, coupons appeared with a bear marked and forever drunk father of Russian democracy. So do not be confused!
      2. asiat_61
        asiat_61 24 May 2016 13: 49
        +1
        These two points allow the oligarchs to feel comfortable in any crisis. ... The problem of the current economy can be solved only in one way - nationalization and a return to the planned .... Two contradictions .and conclusion: And therefore its application is impossible. Consequently, a dead end? Putin himself said that he is a liberal, therefore a dead end.
        1. alicante11
          alicante11 24 May 2016 14: 54
          +2
          And therefore its application is impossible. Consequently, a dead end?


          Yes, a dead end. Exits from which, in fact, three.
          1. Military or political defeat of the oligarchic elite and the destruction of Russia.
          2. The military or political defeat of the elite and the revolution a la October 1917.
          3. Military or political victory of the oligarchic elite over the Western "partners" (that is, we are left alone) and in ten to twenty years Russia is turning into the second USA, only of a smaller scale.

          However, the third option is incredible. The forces are too unequal to defeat the West. At the same time, the West has time and opportunities for the long exhaustion of Russia.
        2. gladcu2
          gladcu2 24 May 2016 17: 26
          0
          asiat 61

          Want to say a paradox.

          Under capitalism, the oligarchs feel like bream in a pan. Because the oligarch of the oligarch dreams of clearly or secretly ruining. And who else? Hard workers? They already have nothing to take.

          But oligarchs feel comfortable only because there is a state. And while this state depends on the person who runs this state, the president is still alive.

          Because GDP is the Guarantor of safety and tranquility. In the meantime, GDP has a credit of confidence, so it plows 14 hours a day, if the wolves were fed and the sheep were safe.
    4. Gray brother
      Gray brother 24 May 2016 08: 32
      +3
      Quote: siberalt
      Instead of investing in the economy, we again buy American securities and save money in the reserve fund, which indicates that we are completely dependent on the US printing press.

      Chinese yuan has become a world currency, but the Chinese also buy US bonds. Somewhere, in your reasoning, an error crept in.
      They invest in securities because of lower risks, if you just put money in a bank, then there is always a risk that it will burn out ... and then what?
      1. troyan
        troyan 24 May 2016 09: 09
        +3
        Quote: Gray Brother
        They invest in securities because of lower risks, if you just put money in a bank, then there is always a risk that it will burn out ... and then what?

        The one who issued the securities, then simply sends far, far bought them. And then what? Until it comes to GDP with his shobla that money should not be invested in paper, but in factories, plants, science, nothing will change.
        1. Gray brother
          Gray brother 24 May 2016 09: 27
          +3
          Quote: troyan
          The one who issued the securities, then simply sends far, far bought them. And then what?

          Then, no one will acquire them anymore. The state that issued the bonds will no longer be able to sell its debt.
          And in any case, all holders will be keen to get rid of an unreliable asset.
          1. Vasiliev Yu
            Vasiliev Yu 24 May 2016 12: 06
            +2
            Quote: Gray Brother
            Quote: troyan
            The one who issued the securities, then simply sends far, far bought them. And then what?

            Then, no one will acquire them anymore. The state that issued the bonds will no longer be able to sell its debt.
            And in any case, all holders will be keen to get rid of an unreliable asset.

            Funny, tell this to Ukraine, even the IMF promised them more money after that. And the USA will not repay debts even more, they all well understand this, they only hope that the refusal of the pin ... the wasps will not be able to repay the debts. And how then they will taxi in the future, let the future take care of itself.
            1. Gray brother
              Gray brother 24 May 2016 16: 24
              +1
              Quote: vasiliev yu
              Funny, tell this to Ukraine, even the IMF promised them more money after that.

              Well, how are Ukrainian government bonds sold now?
              Really funny. Ukrainians raised the percentage of them, but they still have to pay it.
              Many holders of government bonds of Ukraine hastened to get rid of them, however, as you know, any demand for their repayment can further worsen the economic situation. Today government bonds of Ukraine are practically not for sale.
        2. Gray brother
          Gray brother 24 May 2016 10: 22
          +2
          Quote: troyan
          and in factories, factories, science

          Of course it is possible. But then the factories and plants will need loans, but there are no pouches. To do something you need loot, a lot of dough, its amount should overlap the needs several times.
          Roughly speaking, if you, with barefoot start to build a plant, then you will not build a plant, and you yourself will die of starvation.
          I don’t understand your attitude to government bonds - it’s very convenient for them to pay their own public debt, in fact, you repay your debts with debts of others, plus they still accrue interest, therefore you repay a little less (at someone else’s expense, please note).
          Is it bad?
    5. Hon
      Hon 24 May 2016 10: 07
      +2
      Quote: siberalt
      For anyone interested, watch The Important Person with Presidential Adviser Glazyev.

      Glazyev is a populist and storyteller. Gaidar’s ideas also seemed attractive, and promised great prospects, until they were put into practice, it turned out to be an instant wand, nothing was regulated by itself, and instead of the market they received, wild capitalism
    6. gladcu2
      gladcu2 24 May 2016 16: 47
      0
      siberalt

      Change the cap system in a particular country is politically dangerous. And there is no one who wants to do this, to put it mildly.

      But corrections can be made to improve the social situation. But the most important thing is the education system, which will lead to changes in the future.
  • Yak-15
    Yak-15 24 May 2016 06: 32
    +31
    You're not right. Local, this is just an CONSEQUENCE, which is skillfully slipped from above, where all the REASONS of the current situation lie. NEVER the locals would have allowed themselves such a thing, had there not been an order from above. The state is an organized criminal group of planetary scale and the same laws apply in it.
    1. bandabas
      bandabas 24 May 2016 07: 40
      +3
      Not just palm off, but brazenly put in the post. Like you to me, I tell you.
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  • Blondy
    Blondy 24 May 2016 06: 38
    +1
    Yes, this is the basic, habitual, state of our society, since the Soviet times - when the activity of the state is characterized as paranal. And let them not hang noodles about the impact of the crisis.
  • Alexander Romanov
    Alexander Romanov 24 May 2016 06: 58
    -4
    Quote: PKK
    The question is not so much in the crisis, but in the impudence of the local leadership, local authorities, those who sit on the flows. Last year they significantly improved their skills to rob their employees

    Give an example of how they improved and where?
    1. mark2
      mark2 24 May 2016 07: 41
      +16
      Alexander Romanov

      Give an example of how they improved and where?


      Want some examples? I have them. Well, let's say on the surface ..


      Last year, the managing director of the President of the Russian Federation, Alexander Kolpakov, earned almost 80 million rubles, which is eight times more than in 2014. This was reported by TASS with reference to his income statement.
      Kolpakov in 2015 earned 79 rubles. He, as in the previous declaration, owns two passenger cars - Mercedes and GAZ-478. The manager also owns three land plots, two residential buildings (200 and 21 square meters), two apartments (256 and 158 square meters). All real estate is located in the Russian Federation.

      According to the 2014 declaration, Kolpakov’s income amounted to 10,5 million rubles.
      Last year, the managing director of the President of the Russian Federation, Alexander Kolpakov, earned almost 80 million rubles, which is eight times more than in 2014. This was reported by TASS with reference to his income statement.






      Kolpakova’s wife doubled her earnings in 2015, receiving 114 rubles (739 million rubles in 287). She still owns Toyota and Porsche cars, as well as a Ducati motorcycle. The minor child of the four Kolpakovs has a fourth in an apartment of 2014 square meters.



      http://rg.ru/2016/05/16/upravdelami-prezidenta-rossii-zarabotal-okolo-80-million

      ov-rublej.html
      1. troyan
        troyan 24 May 2016 09: 16
        +7
        Interestingly, since 2015, many were cut salaries by 20-30%, they say, the crisis. But something for those creatures of God there is no crisis for some reason. How so?
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 25 May 2016 10: 14
          0
          I also do not have a crisis - my production for 2 years ahead is secured with orders.
      2. GYGOLA
        GYGOLA 24 May 2016 09: 46
        +14
        I will not vote for United Russia until their salary is 25000 rubles, ie. never.
      3. gladcu2
        gladcu2 24 May 2016 17: 49
        0
        mark2

        Good example.

        Do not google? Not Arrested Yet?

        I heard that the state began to lead officials to a single morality by means of the 1937 method. I use the administrative resource, so to speak.
        And what to do, the state should be a state.
        1. voffchik7691
          voffchik7691 24 May 2016 23: 49
          0
          And who led to a single morality? Serdyukov, Vasilyev?
          In Yaroslavl, in July 2013, the mayor was arrested (the whole city voted for him, not for the millionaire from the United Russia) for "attempted bribe-taking." They are still trying to condemn. By the way, unlike Vasilyeva and her khakhalya, she sits not at home but in the bullpen. And it's also interesting - this bribe-taker lived in a kopeck piece with a 17-year-old daughter and a sick old woman. Something modest for a bribe-taker who is charged with attempted bribe 18 million! But they didn't catch me by the hand and didn't show me the money. And even on TV they show how it is done - they take it red-handed and on the banknotes the inscription "bribe"! I'm not saying that he is a saint, but there is a procedure, and if the mind is not enough to take it as it should be - let it go! Vasilyeva was released, and all her "jewelry" and real estate were returned!
    2. bandabas
      bandabas 24 May 2016 12: 26
      0
      I will not give links. Just read about the Phosagro holding. And about its owners. In particular, about Mr. Guryev (a former member of the Federation Council of the Russian Federation) who worked in the 90s together with Khodorkovsky. or Mr. Litvinenko (Rector of the St. Petersburg State Mining University). By the way. Mr. Guriev last year bought himself a castle dacha in England more than Buckingham Palace as a gift to his heirs.
  • Finches
    Finches 24 May 2016 07: 38
    +8
    I think that people like Abramovich have no crisis, because everything is there, the people have no crisis, because there was nothing special and there isn’t, but the officials who are the most screaming about the crisis have it, because from the budget decreased flows of dough, which can be cut with impunity!
    1. Sirocco
      Sirocco 24 May 2016 11: 56
      +5
      Quote: Finches
      the people have no crisis, because there was nothing special and no,

      You are deeply mistaken, we have no rights for the people, (there is one mandatory right, when to vote), yes, everything else, and problems in the form of a quarter reduction in salary, and a double increase in store prices for individual groups of goods, it is, and for some reason I feel in my own skin when I go to the store. I recently spoke out on this subject, I would like for officials and company managers to show by personal example tightening their belts, and not experimenting with workers.
      I think the autumn elections will be fun, judging by the state of affairs at our enterprise, many were sent to the employment center, and this optimization caused a storm of aviation towards the authorities and the president.
  • starshina78
    starshina78 24 May 2016 09: 08
    +6
    I fully and fully support the PKK in that the economic crisis is to some extent created artificially, in certain areas and industries, by the nomenclature, both by the state and by the owners of enterprises. The officials became insolent to disgrace. They are no longer afraid of anything - neither the Investigative Committee, nor the Prosecutor's Office, and Himself. On the ground, all punitive structures are bought, and Sam is far away. Owners of enterprises and managers under the guise of a crisis reduce wages, but only to themselves and crush workers with all kinds of fines, if only their revenue would not fall. For the state, if only taxes were paid, and what and how nevermind. Delayed salaries everywhere, complaining is futile. It’s not enough for everyone. So the economic crisis is created artificially.
    1. gladcu2
      gladcu2 24 May 2016 17: 59
      0
      starshina78

      I'm not from here. And to you a question. What are these fines for wage laborers?
      And how can I pay a salary?

      Write a complaint to the federation website, describe the situation. Ask to keep incognito. I am sure that sooner or later they will come with checks.

      This is the logic of the state. The state itself will not do anything until a complaint is received. And not to the court or somewhere, but to the state. Let the state itself solve the problems. You are not required to put yourself on the same scale with your employer. Let the state deal with him.

      That should be the principle.
      1. Victor Demchenko
        Victor Demchenko 26 May 2016 07: 11
        0
        exactly what you are far away and gives you the right to ignorance of our reality. Now in France and throughout Europe, as far as I know, protests are taking place against government decisions to increase the length of the working week and reduce overtime pay, and we have quietly carried out these same measures behind the scenes back in the late 90s, and the employer has articles in the shopping center such that he has the right to throw ANYWHERE without giving reasons and DO NOT PAY severance pay! the whole trick is that in our 30s of the last century, the idea that our trade unions were a school of communism was very stubbornly hammered, in fact it turned out that our trade unions, precisely because of the inertia of their members, are the most stupid in the world ! they do not fulfill their functions of protecting the rights of their members, being practically a coordinating body and act in conjunction with the administration.
        Quote: gladcu2

        That should be the principle.
        what
        the principle should be just that, but in fact your complaint will be on the table at your employer before it is read by the head of the official responsible for resolving this complaint. and appropriate actions will be taken precisely within the framework of the Law: an offer will be made to you that you cannot refuse. but it’s checked in your own skin, take a word!
  • Maksus
    Maksus 24 May 2016 09: 34
    +4
    The crisis for me personally, as a citizen, manifests itself only in the increase in food and gas prices. But as for the employee - it really got worse, fewer drugs, the equipment waits for repairs and spare parts longer.
  • Yars
    Yars 24 May 2016 09: 53
    0
    I think it’s not right to measure all under one ruler, it’s easier to name specific names with evidence.
  • Yuyuka
    Yuyuka 24 May 2016 10: 39
    +3
    The question is not so much in the crisis, but in the impudence of the local leadership, local authorities, those who sit on the streams. Last year, they significantly improved their skills to rob their employees and are now waiting for the opportunity to rob again.

    Well, you can't just reduce everything to local "comrades"! If they knew that they were facing a "terrible punishment" they would behave like mice! and so ... from top to bottom, EVERYONE does exactly as much as the system allows them and the example - the upper tovarischi.

    here from the site Kramola.info

    Declarations of income for 2015 of the leaders of the Central Bank of Russia were published. These documents cause joy: at least someone in our country is prosperous, improving personal well-being in times of crisis. Judging by the reports of officials, the income of the leadership of the main financial regulator grew by decent amounts - from 20 to 50 percent.

    and more

    The leaders in terms of raising personal social standards, as befits a leader, are Elvira Sahipzadovna Nabiullina herself: her income increased by 80 percent compared to 2014, from 12,2 million rubles to 21,9 million rubles. But in absolute terms, the Central Bank Chairman is inferior to his deputy Sergey Shvetsov, who earned 58,1 million rubles

    as Professor Essor Preobrazhensky said - a crisis in the heads (s) or in other words "in the head", that is, at the top ... there is no strategy in the economy, only for a short time, and then the abolition of the previous rules and the creation of new ones ... request
  • water
    water 24 May 2016 11: 49
    +3
    So it turns out that the main trouble is the management crisis! That is, the lack of managerial responsibility for economic decisions taken is multiplied by the same lack of executive discipline in the implementation of decisions of the highest bodies of state power, and often outright sabotage and substitution of these decisions for profitable performers. And this causes an economic downturn. The one that we now feel on ourselves.

    In other words: it is necessary to increase executive discipline and managerial responsibility! How to do it - recipes are known. Here is the right person yet.
  • CHILD
    CHILD 24 May 2016 13: 01
    +1
    and this is a systemic crisis ... the financial part can only be seen as a trigger and an indirect indicator ... inflexible and unsuccessful leadership at almost all levels only exacerbate .... there is a feeling that we are on the verge of a big schucher ... maybe it will resolve. ..only a question of how much? ... a change in the social and social system (attempts on a person in my opinion) thing in itself and goals may not coincide with the expectation ...
  • bandabas
    bandabas 24 May 2016 15: 30
    +3
    And you read Jack London's "Iron Heel", and everything will fall into place. True, he wrote about America. But, I think, at the moment, it corresponds to us. Unfortunately.
  • il-z
    il-z 24 May 2016 15: 37
    +7
    The central authorities do not stand aside, one extortionate VAT is worth something. If 5-6 years ago it was paid upon payment, now it was paid upon the signing of financial documents. Let us consider this sad fact as an example: a small firm works as a subchik on a large construction site, 15-25 people, depending on specialization, supply of materials and other factors, earn 1,5-5 million rubles for the firm. month. For the first 2-3 months, payments are in order, taxes and salaries are paid on time. Further, the signing remains at the same level (or the amounts grow), and the transfer falls, or stops altogether. That is, it turns out if by the end of the construction (work at the facility) the company has signed acts for the work performed, for example, for 10 million rubles, then by the end of the quarter it must pay the state 1,8 million rubles. And no one cares whether she really received this money and whether she will ever receive it, the courts on such cases have been going on for years, and there is not even a possibility to shift this debt to the defaulter's firm. And this is just one example of an ineffective economy or, if I may say so, "Kudrin's gift". In front of my eyes, during the construction of one medium-sized plant, they thus lowered under 1 medium and small firms, and the person who arranged it all was appointed a senator. It feels like the laws are written for the mighty of this world. As an estimate, I can say that 150-30% of small and medium-sized firms have closed, and the same number are interrupted or balancing on the brink. At the same time, many were overbought, or are overbought by those who are satisfied with it (non-payments). Of course I respect GDP, but when he suddenly ... talks about supporting small and medium-sized businesses, for some reason it is perceived at the level of empty chatter ...
    I remember about 1,5-2 years ago a friend was called in the north from one company to another, and the fact that the other belongs to DAM’s relatives, which means problems with orders, payments, etc., was mentioned as a serious argument. the next 10 years will not be.
    1. CHILD
      CHILD 24 May 2016 23: 56
      0
      the global economy trend ... communism has been defeated .... the authorities no longer need reliance on medium and small business ... in the world they have been merging it for a long time ... but in our country it really didn’t appear ... it’s more convenient for the corporation)) )
  • husband
    husband 24 May 2016 16: 40
    -2
    The reason is the mistrust of entrepreneurs of false power of false patriots who ruined normal development: https://lenta.ru/articles/2012/09/14/putin/
    The consequence - back to the USSR - the skill to lie, steal and scream about love for the motherland is again the most important:
    http://www.finanz.ru/novosti/aktsii/dyra-v-byudzhete-rastet-so-skorostyu-
    poltrilliona-rubley-v-mesyac-1001213936
    The unwillingness of entrepreneurs to take is the main reason for everything that happens. Investing your money when unbalanced kleptocrats are in power is so risky that it’s easier to do nothing. Medvedev would remain for a second term and there would be NOTHING happening.
    Few normal ministers (the economic bloc) are holding onto our boat with all their might, which is drowned by siloviki with an outdated worldview, not using the Internet, not knowing history, economics, modern technologies. Look at what Sberbank has become in 8 years. Modern. Technological. Remember the savings banks and queues. Yes, there are deposits of pensioners. And our economy has oil and gas instead. It is necessary to complete mediocrity to quarrel with the whole world to drive the country into such an ass!
    1. Victor Demchenko
      Victor Demchenko 26 May 2016 07: 18
      0
      Quote: sot
      Look at what Sberbank has become in 8 years. Modern. Technological. Remember the savings banks and queues. Yes, there are deposits of pensioners.

      the example is clearly not a good one. the most predatory interest on loans and the most unprotected depositors in savings. Why do you think, with all the administrative heavy hand, Sber loses Tinkov to the bank?
  • The black
    The black 24 May 2016 05: 58
    +4
    The economic crisis in the country, of course, is present. But if the President and the Government competently "settle" the situation, then it will turn out not to harm, but to the benefit of the country's economy. It will be possible to give a "sigh" to the domestic producer. Here we have this year very much even Local agricultural producers benefited from the sanctions. Strawberries, tomatoes, cherries - everything is only local. (earlier at this time -Turkey) The quality is much better than Turkish. So it's not so bad. We'll break through. We will become even stronger smile
    1. Sars
      Sars 24 May 2016 06: 06
      +37
      You show a competent person in the government (there is no need to blame Shoigu), and the president’s desire to get out of this situation.
      There is no cheap money in the country. The money that is is invested in banks, not in the real economy.
      Nabiulina plainly says that she is not profitable to invest money in industrial production.
      Since the beginning of the year, metal has risen in price by two to three times.
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 24 May 2016 07: 04
        .
        Quote: SarS
        You show a competent person in the government (

        Strange, but Putin is satisfied with the ministers.
        Quote: SarS
        and the president’s desire to get out of this situation.

        From what?
        Quote: SarS
        Nabiulina plainly says that she is not profitable to invest money in industrial production.

        Can I link to her words?
        Quote: SarS
        Since the beginning of the year, metal has risen in price by two to three times.

        So what?
      2. andj61
        andj61 24 May 2016 07: 45
        +3
        Quote: SarS
        Since the beginning of the year, metal has risen in price by two to three times.

        Where does this data come from? what Yes, over the past two years, metal has risen in price by only a third, a maximum - by 40%, but not at all three times! stop
        1. Sars
          Sars 24 May 2016 12: 20
          +4
          The construction beam and channel with 20 rubles went up from 000 rubles to 42.
          Steel 18 X30 MF (for example) in Chelyabinsk now costs 700 rubles. In January, they took over 000.
          If you have metal at a price plus 30% of the prices two years ago - please contact. We will buy any volume.
      3. Anatole Klim
        Anatole Klim 24 May 2016 11: 47
        +3
        Quote: SarS
        You show a competent person in the government ...

        "No money, but you hold on." Eh, it's all sad ...
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 24 May 2016 19: 22
          0
          Well, at least honestly answered.
          1. voffchik7691
            voffchik7691 25 May 2016 00: 20
            +1
            Something he quickly retreated! Well, about honesty, I could honestly say that we in the government and the State Duma dismantled the money for our salaries, it was not enough for you!
      4. Yuyuka
        Yuyuka 24 May 2016 17: 00
        +1
        Since the beginning of the year, metal has risen in price by two to three times.

        duck is ... like him ... flashes in the sun have become more frequent, and signals from space are coming ... sooo ... the more oil has risen in price ... damn it! all ended arguments sad eh, I don’t have any talent, a deputy of the State Duma and members of this government request
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    3. jetfors_84
      jetfors_84 24 May 2016 06: 23
      +4
      Yeah, now Kudrin will show us the bright path.
    4. Victor Demchenko
      Victor Demchenko 26 May 2016 07: 19
      0
      all this is only because our officials stop interfering ... request
  • 24rus
    24rus 24 May 2016 05: 59
    +1
    1) In my opinion, the main internal threat to Russia is a layer of officials and oligarchs for those interested in weak Russia.
    2) there is no crisis
    1. Sars
      Sars 24 May 2016 06: 11
      +20
      How to count. The crisis may or may not, but only manufacturing enterprises have stopped.
      The population, who is not at the feeder, lives on credit cards, which will happen when everyone chooses their limits, and there will be nothing to give.
      Look at the Altai Territory. With the lowest salary in the country, loans to 80% of the population, and the average amount under two hundred thousand!
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 24 May 2016 07: 09
        0
        Quote: SarS
        t, but only manufacturing enterprises have stopped.

        Judging by your koment, Russia is not a crisis, the Russian economy has simply collapsed.
        Quote: SarS
        The population, who is not at the feeder, lives on credit cards, which will happen when everyone chooses their limits, and there will be nothing to give.

        Krajina has a low percentage of cretins who take credit card loans. It's just not profitable, so no need to lie.
        Quote: SarS
        With the lowest salary in the country, loans to 80% of the population, and the average amount under two hundred thousand!

        Where do these numbers come from?
        1. Gordarik
          Gordarik 24 May 2016 08: 11
          +2
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Where do these numbers come from?


          I completely agree with you, to base your conversation on the figures taken from the ceiling and bringing them as statistics is a way to nowhere, but you also admit this kind of judgment for yourself.

          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Krajina has a low percentage of cretins who take credit card loans. It's just not profitable, so no need to lie.


          If I'm wrong, then I forgive my forgiveness and then I would like to see the specific values ​​of these low percentages and the source.
          1. Victor Demchenko
            Victor Demchenko 26 May 2016 07: 31
            -1
            Quote: Gordarik
            If I'm wrong, then I forgive my forgiveness and then I would like to see the specific values ​​of these low percentages and the source.

            not right specifically. I was imposed a credit card in Sberbank, ONCE I paid the purchase in the store with it, and repaid the debt AFTER 7 DAYS. for using the loan for 7 days they took me 19% of the amount, so clearly and without explaining why they took me, because they promised 50 days without%. so Sasha is right, right, you have to be a complete nerd to use a credit card.
            1. Gordarik
              Gordarik 26 May 2016 09: 59
              0
              I'm laughing at you laughing What is my wrong? Before answering, I recommend that you re-read my message to which you commented.
        2. Sars
          Sars 24 May 2016 12: 27
          +3
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Where do these numbers come from?

          Yes, Altai news I listen to on the way to work.
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Krajina has a low percentage of nerds who take credit card loans. It’s just not profitable, so don’t have to

          Dear, there is a loan for cars, for example.
          And when today you need to stupidly buy products in a store, you have to get into a credit card. And this is not from cretinism.
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        4. Victor Demchenko
          Victor Demchenko 26 May 2016 07: 26
          -1
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Extremely low percentage of cretins who take credit card loans. It's just not profitable, so no need to lie.

          as always malicious and direct in the eye! Sasha hello! I haven’t seen your comments for a long time, pleased, honestly
          Well, now, in fact: the article is correct and, apparently, is a burning topic, and what is the best, at least for me, ALL MORE PEOPLE WAKE UP READY TO GIVE A FIGHT IN HERE in the upcoming elections! after all, all the speeches of our authorities holding the current leaders show their COMPLETE inconsistency, precisely because of this they are trying to attract new faces and crawl into the Duma under their cover. so why does it seem to me ... request
      2. 24rus
        24rus 24 May 2016 07: 49
        +6
        I work in production. Nothing has changed, we are developing, we are purchasing new imported equipment. S / n the truth is not growing, but they are not falling
        1. leshiy076
          leshiy076 24 May 2016 08: 20
          +6
          I think that there are few of them. You are most likely lucky with the management. If the head of the enterprise is a real business executive, then this is possible. Only the profitability of production over the past two years has decreased by thirty to forty percent. Some of the leaders are ready for this, but most of our business is focused on excess profits. And the usual 15-25 percent of profitability, few people are satisfied.
        2. Irokez
          Irokez 24 May 2016 09: 15
          +3
          Quote: 24rus
          I work in production. Nothing has changed, we are developing, we are purchasing new imported equipment. S / n the truth is not growing, but they are not falling

          I also work in production and compared to 2015, well, we just don’t have time to make orders. All to the fact that the dollar jumped and competitors from outside the hill are not competitive in prices and this is a plus for us.
          Another 2-3 years would be nice and the economy would have improved from decades of stagnation.
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          2. lis-ik
            lis-ik 24 May 2016 10: 08
            +7
            And I work, as they say in the private sector (retail), and about a year ago, I wrote everything about the crisis with figures (exactly how it affected the purchasing power of the population), who can find it interesting in the profile. The point is different yesterday at "Vesti FM" discussed a possible next pension reform. So our "economic bloc" proposed the New Zealand option, namely, who has a salary. more than 50 thousand rubles. the pension is not paid at all. The question is, why then should that part of the population pay contributions at all? Another question we have long advocated for the transparency of wages. and avoiding envelopes. So now the most fertile soil will arise for their return. Another question is how the income of an individual entrepreneur will be calculated, because many are in the simplified system or the patent system, and they also pay to the pension fund and it is not a fact that the profit is more than 50 thousand rubles. I want to say that the crisis is in the government itself, in their non-professionalism, but the president believes that everything is fine there! So there is no need to refer to the situation in the economy and sanctions, for them it is very convenient and hardly anything will change in the near future. By the way, on pensions, why not offer them the Chinese version? I did the right thing, that I have not paid for several years, either to the pension or to the medical insurance.
        3. screw cutter
          screw cutter 24 May 2016 09: 37
          +1
          You are strange people, everything is known by comparison. In Europe, salaries have been growing for eight years now, but only for officials and then not for everyone. In private business, stagnation, salaries are either frozen or reduced with increasing prices for almost everything (not at times, but from 10 to 30%, this is also sensitive). And whether the economy is growing or not can be determined by the number of new buildings, I won’t say for the whole of Europe, but in the Baltic States it’s not that they are not building, but they can’t even sell what is unfinished. Outside of the capitals, it’s quite simple abandoned houses, on some curtains fluttering through broken windows.
          And in Vladimerer, over the two years of my absence, an entire quarter of six-story buildings has grown and everyone has already been settled and these are not social houses, the developer is private.
        4. razmik72
          razmik72 24 May 2016 10: 40
          0
          Quote: 24rus
          I work in production. Nothing has changed, we are developing, we are purchasing new imported equipment. S / n the truth is not growing, but they are not falling

          What exactly does your production produce? The question is not idle, since my brother himself is engaged in production and I myself was specifically in Russia just a month ago. His production dipped.
          1. 24rus
            24rus 24 May 2016 11: 32
            0
            Dairy products. Own cows.
            1. Hon
              Hon 24 May 2016 11: 45
              0
              Quote: 24rus
              Dairy products. Own cows.

              Palm trees too?)
              1. 24rus
                24rus 24 May 2016 11: 53
                +4
                Without palm trees, otherwise people will turn their backs - local producer
            2. razmik72
              razmik72 24 May 2016 12: 04
              +1
              Quote: 24rus
              Dairy products. Own cows.

              Sergey, after all these sanctions and counter-sanctions on agricultural products, it’s not surprising that the dairy business went uphill. But his brother produces shoes and complains about the dominance of Chinese manufacturers. In addition, another company produced various machines on request, it’s generally closed, for customers no.
              1. 24rus
                24rus 24 May 2016 12: 57
                0
                Well, yes, Chinese manufacturers win much in the price of products, but about the machines it’s strange .. It depends on which machines though.
                1. razmik72
                  razmik72 24 May 2016 13: 34
                  +1
                  Quote: 24rus
                  Well, yes, Chinese manufacturers win much in the price of products, but about the machines it’s strange .. It depends on which machines though.

                  Recently, China has risen enormously and manufactures almost any machine tool. My brother produced machine tools for the shoe industry, he ordered machines for processing stone and decorative plates, but he says that there are practically no orders in Russia. And he also complains about the tax. , which entrepreneurs pay to a pension fund, as far as I remember, is 45% of the salary. He says such a high tax kills production.
                  1. Hon
                    Hon 24 May 2016 13: 42
                    +3
                    Quote: razmik72
                    Recently, China has risen enormously and manufactures almost any machine tool. My brother produced machine tools for the shoe industry, he ordered machines for processing stone and decorative plates, but he says that there are practically no orders in Russia. And he also complains about the tax. , which entrepreneurs pay to a pension fund, as far as I remember, is 45% of the salary. He says such a high tax kills production.

                    but how wonderful it is that to pay an employee 100 rubles you need to have 145, as a result, the employee receives 87, and the state 45 + 13 (personal income tax), and then the state also raises the retirement age, because the PFR does not receive enough money. This is despite the fact that our life expectancy is short, in fact, only 10 years above the retirement age
                    1. gladcu2
                      gladcu2 24 May 2016 20: 27
                      0
                      Hon

                      If the tax system has settled down, then it is not worth loosening it. All business and social programs are tied to the system. But one can criticize only when taxes begin to increase.

                      Remember this noise with increasing taxes on transport. Something could be wrong there. The system cannot be shaken by tax changes.

                      Moreover, it looks ridiculous when the Communists begin to demand from the state the redistribution of funds through taxation. If we make demands on the state to take from the rich and give to the poor, robbingud damn. It would be better if we began to identify the weakening of state functions.

                      The same fines imposed by the owner on their employees. Lowering and delayed salaries.

                      Behave like Hitler's pocket battleships. It seems to be, but there is little benefit.
                      1. Hon
                        Hon 24 May 2016 22: 30
                        0
                        If it settled down, then why is there no money in the FIU? They receive deductions, but this is not reflected in pensions
              2. Victor Demchenko
                Victor Demchenko 26 May 2016 07: 37
                0
                let the shoes do normal in quality and at prices. I personally ALWAYS try to purchase goods of my manufacturers, including shoes, and I can say that finding shoes on the price-quality issue of Russian manufacturers is very problematic, then we buy Chinese guano!
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    3. PN
      PN 24 May 2016 07: 12
      +3
      Go to the local clinic and everything will immediately become clear whether there is a crisis or not.
      1. Sirocco
        Sirocco 24 May 2016 12: 06
        +2
        You can also look at the employment center, there you will definitely find out if there is a crisis or not))))))
  • Good_Taxist
    Good_Taxist 24 May 2016 06: 08
    +1
    The crisis in our country "if available" !!!
    1. 33 Watcher
      33 Watcher 24 May 2016 07: 05
      +2
      Quote: Good_Taxist
      The crisis in our country "if available" !!!

      Well, yes, something like that ... I voted myself, "I find it difficult to answer" tk. people complain, but he hasn't touched me personally yet. Everything that I planned to acquire and do over the past two years, I acquired and did. So, while I'm on schedule ... I have to work harder, yes. Less time, respectively. I felt it.
      1. 33 Watcher
        33 Watcher 24 May 2016 08: 53
        +4
        As I understand it, someone whom the crisis touched, minusanul out of envy? laughing
        What? Should I sob for solidarity? Well, if I have enough earned, it means he did not touch me. It is so?
        1. Irokez
          Irokez 24 May 2016 09: 21
          +1
          Quote: Observer 33
          As I understand it, someone whom the crisis touched, minusanul out of envy? laughing
          What? Should I sob for solidarity? Well, if I have enough earned, it means he did not touch me. It is so?

          You are a good observer.
    2. Irokez
      Irokez 24 May 2016 09: 19
      +2
      Quote: Good_Taxist
      The crisis in our country "if available" !!!

      A little differently. "By defining a crisis, we discover its absence."
  • midivan
    midivan 24 May 2016 06: 11
    +17
    unequivocally a crisis, a crisis of conscience and dignity, and not only in the highest echelons of power, but how else to call it? when the chairman of a so-so "collective farm" and he strives to throw and throw (I can't say otherwise) those with whom he studied at school and with children they ran around the ponds and chased toads, but how he became a "big man" and he wanted a house in Sochi and an apartment in the city nearby, and a three-ruble note is desirable, and his childhood friend, out of despair, pours on a bottle and closer to 50, the same friend without a shadow of shame on funeral speech says, what kind of comrade he was a hard worker, something like that request PS was present, I saw, but there’s nothing to say about the economy here
    1. gladcu2
      gladcu2 24 May 2016 20: 44
      0
      minivan

      That's exactly what you correctly noticed.

      This is what they say when they advise you to start with yourself. This is the restoration of a single moral of survival.
      The truth is against this with the collapse of the USSR, and even under the USSR, all the media are working. The destruction of a single morality.
      The church was also engaged in the preservation of morality, but even that passed in front of masmedia.
  • kolyhalovs
    kolyhalovs 24 May 2016 06: 14
    +20
    What is there to comment on? Salary cut! Then the truth was returned. Nearly. But inflation is not waiting. Not as crazy as the dollar of course, but it eats up our salaries at an enviable rate. And I'm still a civil servant, that is, I am in quite a greenhouse environment (there are no delays). Then they reduced the people by 10%. You could hear on TV. There was a noise. PR this business. They showed how to cut all kinds of cones. Ugh! It's disgusting. Where some deputy has been reduced, in fact it turns out that this chapter has 7 deputies of which there are 5 deputies, and 3 are assigned (this is illustrative, not specific), and they took away one bet. And 10% really kicked out. And these were precisely the lowest ranks.
    People engaged in small business in the field of public services (well, there to file nails, to assemble the kitchen) generally howl with longing.

    The crisis is obvious, but the question is what to do? Here, some neighbors in the west decided to improve their life a couple of years ago. It didn’t work out very well. In 91, too, we, after all, also wanted clothes and bugs (if you call a spade a spade). It turned out even worse than that of the twin cities in 2013. That's the question. HOW to force the state to take control of the economy, while not ruining everything?
    1. Tatar 174
      Tatar 174 24 May 2016 06: 31
      +5
      They do not always cut budget employees, reduce payroll benefits, and a dilemma arises for the leader whether to cut someone or to cut the salary and many, realizing that they have nowhere to go to choose the second, as the lesser evil. A crisis or not a crisis, but the deterioration of the situation of people in the country is unequivocal.
      1. andj61
        andj61 24 May 2016 07: 54
        +4
        Quote: Tatar 174
        A crisis or not a crisis, but the deterioration of the situation of people in the country is unequivocal.

        The crisis is unequivocal! State employees' salaries, especially in terms of bonuses - they were completely eliminated - and all kinds of surcharges were cut. And imagine if premiums amounted to a third of the salary ... Small business fell on budget employees - they began to buy significantly less, incomes fell from everyone.
        But the rise in oil prices will not be reimbursed in salaries immediately, but after four months or six months. This April, the minimum wage at the beginning of the year was just recouped by reducing wages. If the oil price rises to 60 thalers per barrel by the end of summer, then by the end of the year we will see even a slight increase in wages.
      2. Irokez
        Irokez 24 May 2016 09: 25
        +1
        Quote: Tatar 174
        A crisis or not a crisis, but the deterioration of the situation of people in the country is unequivocal.

        I would like to correct that "A TEMPORARY deterioration in the situation of people in the country is unambiguous."
  • smith7
    smith7 24 May 2016 06: 16
    +11
    There is certainly a crisis. There is a change in the priorities of financing economic projects. In this regard, people get scared and do not find themselves in an economic situation. The reduction in the volume of purchase and resale, trade in "intangible" assets (essentially air) is declining. This leads to a decrease in business profitability, redistribution of income in market sectors. It is this confusion that leads to the understanding of the crisis as having taken place. The shift of emphasis to the real sectors of the economy requires a redistribution of human resources. This topic is not for one year. We will feel the consequences for another five to six years. Until we learn creative skills anew. When the number of lawyers-economists is reduced to a minimum, and the number of workers, farmers, engineers and builders will be sufficient for the country's economy.
    1. okunevich_rv
      okunevich_rv 24 May 2016 09: 01
      +2
      When mothers are single, with children they will go on the rails, when pensioners will die out, when lawmakers will allow employers to put chains on workers and allow corporal punishment.
      There is a crisis, the denial of this from the evil one, or from a high-flying official, which is the same thing.
      The infrastructure shows that the volume of cargo transportation decreased, construction stalled, agriculture, for the development does not have the necessary resources. Energy and resource supply, compensate for their losses and appetites, due to the domestic market, production is reduced, especially judging by the staff.
      And they, with an increase in the cost of a barrel, can postpone, but let the beetles postpone larvae to their brain. In the absence of money supply in the real sector, there will be no movement, it will not wake up development. Only the provision of state development programs with state funding will be able to breathe life into the economy, they built a plant, part of the shares on the market, for the speedy return of the money supply, money in the next project.
      The able-bodied population should have money to buy domestic goods, you can buy imported ones, but more expensive, and there should always be an alternative from domestic goods.
  • Bayonet
    Bayonet 24 May 2016 06: 18
    +14
    Of course have. I judge by the frozen construction sites in my city, by the stopped and put on conservation digital transmitters in our area (work related), price increases, etc. etc. There is no reason for delight. hi
    1. avva2012
      avva2012 24 May 2016 06: 59
      +2
      Quote: Bayonet Of course have. I judge by the frozen construction sites in my city, by the stopped and put on conservation digital transmitters in our area (work related), price increases, etc. etc. There is no reason for delight.

      Of course there is a decrease, but not compare with 1998 year. Not an entrepreneur, but by external signs, if construction sites are frozen, then shopping centers are mostly. Housing is being built, and is being built. The quality is bad, but this is apparently not a crisis. request Salaries are not delayed, but as has been the last time with state employees, the intensity varies from season to season. Accountant contagion ?!
      1. sa-ag
        sa-ag 24 May 2016 07: 57
        +3
        Quote: avva2012
        The quality is bad, but this is apparently not a crisis.

        Just like in a crisis, when the national currency is depreciated twice, and the construction budget remains the same, the quality begins to suffer first
        1. avva2012
          avva2012 24 May 2016 08: 11
          +1
          Quote: sa-ag Just like in a crisis, when the national currency is depreciated twice, and the construction budget remains the same, the quality begins to suffer first

          If so, as you write, then the crisis has already begun, like thirty years. Normal housing, this improved not later than the middle of the 80's.
          1. sa-ag
            sa-ag 24 May 2016 08: 23
            0
            Quote: avva2012
            If so, as you write, then the crisis has already begun, like thirty years

            Why not, especially if you recall what kind of hyperinflation was in the 90s
        2. alicante11
          alicante11 24 May 2016 08: 39
          +2
          Just like in a crisis, when the national currency is depreciated twice, and the construction budget remains the same, the quality begins to suffer first


          Why suddenly? Building materials in our country, it seems, are also paid their salaries in rubles. Unless the equipment is partially imported. Well, the equipment was bought before the construction began, i.e. even "before the crisis." So I don't see any connection between currency depreciation and housing quality.
          1. sa-ag
            sa-ag 24 May 2016 09: 22
            0
            Quote: alicante11
            It seems that our building materials

            And the prices for them did not change? Hard to believe...
            1. alicante11
              alicante11 24 May 2016 12: 47
              0
              And the prices for them did not change? Hard to believe...


              Well, the prices for everything are rising. So everything has deteriorated in quality?
              1. sa-ag
                sa-ag 24 May 2016 17: 19
                0
                Quote: alicante11
                So everything has deteriorated in quality?

                Quality is more expensive, but I want the same money for the same money that doesn’t work out, quality will suffer
                1. Bayonet
                  Bayonet 25 May 2016 20: 26
                  +1
                  Quote: sa-ag
                  Quality is more expensive, but I want it for the same money

                  This is if the materials are of better quality - expensive. And in most cases - a disregard for their work and lack of professionalism!
      2. Bayonet
        Bayonet 25 May 2016 20: 11
        0
        Quote: avva2012
        Salary is not delayed

        Detained by many. Recently, builders of a new stadium were on strike (for the 2018 championship). request
    2. EvgNik
      EvgNik 24 May 2016 07: 01
      0
      Quote: Bayonet
      I judge by frozen construction sites in my city, by stopped and put on conservation digital transmitters in our area

      Are you sure that this is the result of the crisis? I'm somehow not sure. It's just that someone is profitable. Not the first time we live.
      1. andj61
        andj61 24 May 2016 07: 58
        +4
        Quote: EvgNik
        Quote: Bayonet
        I judge by frozen construction sites in my city, by stopped and put on conservation digital transmitters in our area

        Are you sure that this is the result of the crisis? I'm somehow not sure. It's just that someone is profitable. Not the first time we live.

        Profitable, but as a result of the crisis! Apartments stopped buying, because a mortgage is extremely expensive and salaries are low. Therefore, apartment prices are the lowest in the last eight years.
        Cellular operators stopped growing, and their income in foreign currency decreased significantly. Therefore, they sharply began to carry out optimization, that is, staff reductions, plus revised development plans. In addition, they developed a network for cheap foreign loans, which are now unavailable - and they stopped the construction ...
        1. avva2012
          avva2012 24 May 2016 08: 20
          +4
          Quote: andj61 Therefore, apartment prices are the lowest in the last eight years.

          That's who on the pillars ... it's construction companies! The quality of construction is indescribable, the prices are cosmic. Everyone knows who is to blame. Naturally not "builders". negative
      2. Ruswolf
        Ruswolf 24 May 2016 10: 10
        +2
        EvgNik
        Are you sure that this is the result of the crisis? I'm somehow not sure. It's just that someone is profitable. Not the first time we live.

        I completely agree!
        As Professor Preobrazhensky said: - "Devastation - In this case, the crisis does not exist at all! It is in the heads!"
        In my opinion, if there is a crisis in Russia, it is not in the economy, but in the government! I mean the cabinet of ministers and its "inhabitants", who, instead of making decisions, are engaged in predictions and fortune-telling on the coffee grounds, and they call their mistakes the crisis caused by the sanctions.

        Although it is possible that all this is done intentionally. They are trying to bring the country to the handle for a new presidential election. The Law of the Classics - Before the election, the current president must be bad and sick! And the people should be bad ......
        1. andj61
          andj61 24 May 2016 12: 19
          0
          Quote: Ruswolf
          As Professor Preobrazhensky said: - "Devastation - In this case, the crisis does not exist at all! It is in the heads!"
          In my opinion, if there is a crisis in Russia, it is not in the economy, but in the government! I mean the cabinet of ministers and its "inhabitants"

          I completely agree with this! good With skilled management, the consequences and sanctions and lower energy prices (which is precisely the decisive factor in lowering living standards) could be leveled or, at least, substantially mitigated.
          Quote: Ruswolf
          Although it is possible that all this is done intentionally. They are trying to bring the country to the handle for a new presidential election.

          This is hardly! They would like to do well, but without a real reform of the economic management system, nothing works. And liberal methods of economic management - this is when banking-usurious capital is not the first place - have not been working for a long time - both here and throughout the world.
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  • stas132
    stas132 24 May 2016 06: 19
    +14
    1. The main threat is the lenders represented by banks, and the Central Bank among them, with their predatory interest on loans to a real producer. No long-term loans with low interest rates, no long-term planning and development of production.
    2. There is no transparency in the state’s plans for the ruble, it is floating, which means unpredictable.
    3. Gray salaries from the huckster employer. Buy-sell is the most prone to gray schemes and throwing workers.
    4. Lack of access to retailers from farmers and food producers. Wild bribes per shelf in a store. You can still remember, but this is the first thing that came to mind.
    Yes, and 5th, dear energy, any. Though fuel, even electricity.
  • skarl
    skarl 24 May 2016 06: 19
    +5
    You come to Ukraine and see what the crisis is ... I’m both there and there, and believe me, there is something to compare ... Yes, Russia is not easy now, they are pushing bitch from all sides, take care of your President, there will be all kinds of peace you can overcome crises ...
    1. asiat_61
      asiat_61 24 May 2016 08: 09
      +5
      You don’t need to palm off Ukraine. And so everything is clear. It is already shown to us on every TV how bad it is. This is not the point, but the fact that we do not have much better.
    2. Karabin
      Karabin 24 May 2016 08: 15
      +2
      Quote: skarl
      You come to Ukraine and see what a crisis is.

      Why go. A year to develop the Kudrino program. A couple of years to implement and hello dill throughout Russia.
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    4. creak
      creak 24 May 2016 11: 00
      +2
      Quote: skarl

      You come to Ukraine and see what the crisis is ...


      And if after that also in Zimbabwe to glance - so in general we have a nonsense ... good
  • jetfors_84
    jetfors_84 24 May 2016 06: 21
    +15
    Everything comes from arrogant Moscow. Everything here is somehow subordinated to Moscow, officials, banks, enterprises. All owners in Moscow. And reporting hides the real incomes of the population. Money remains on the communal apartment and eat a little. On clothes and shoes, this already needs to be contrived. Holidays on sasago and the tax on the car are put off. And then they want to completely pass over medicine and education to us.
    1. Cananecat
      Cananecat 24 May 2016 06: 54
      +1
      You will be surprised, but salaries are also delayed and cut in Moscow. So the "closeness" of the Kremlin is the fairy tales of Uncle Remus. Yes, our salary is higher than in the regions, but our standard of living is different. Or do they spend 3000-5000 rubles on the periphery for travel to work every month? I agree about reporting and the rest too. Officials need to be shaken, and shaken so that the extra ruble in the pocket would hang as an article.
    2. stas132
      stas132 24 May 2016 10: 44
      +3
      Largely in the regions, local authorities are to blame. As an example: a retailer was allowed into the city, he is registered in Moscow, and pays taxes there. And where it opened, trade by small sellers died. Accordingly, a double loss of taxes. Well, in that spirit, there are many examples.
      1. Bayonet
        Bayonet 25 May 2016 20: 58
        +1
        Quote: stas132
        As an example: a retailer was allowed into the city, he is registered in Moscow, and pays taxes there.

        Would you try not to let it go? Strangled!
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    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 24 May 2016 07: 11
      -4
      PKK
      loginovich
      Bayonet
      Kuzyakin15
      EvgNik

      Here are all five to slap in before, for the plus of koment with obscenities?
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      2. Bayonet
        Bayonet 25 May 2016 21: 12
        0
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Here are all five to slap in before, for the plus of koment with obscenities?

        For the fight against those who use the mat, moderators should be responsible. And what does everyone else have to do with it? I read it - a warning, voted for the comment (not for the mat) - get a ban. Is it too much? Cancel the vote altogether, they have been talking about this for a long time!hi
      3. Victor Demchenko
        Victor Demchenko 26 May 2016 07: 56
        0
        Sasha, you’ve got the minuses, how’s that? laughing tongue
        I am now experiencing a complete thrill when, using the normal literary Great and Mighty, I can put in place for him any individual that befits him (in bent!). turns out to be possible without a mat. although .... remember, Jack London in his "Tales of the South Seas" has a statement on this topic: ... "although the mat used in time and in place is very relevant, and the use of it without meaning devalues ​​both speech itself and speaking ... "
        I apologize for the non-accuracy of the quote, but in my opinion it is close to the truth. what
  • Nix1986
    Nix1986 24 May 2016 06: 23
    +28
    Why are you, what crisis? Judging by the latest news, we are restoring Syria, helping Africa with Ebola and getting ready for the World Cup, unless we can help a girl with a relapse of the tumor and we need money for Germany, but we must understand the state, it is not bottomless, so everyone needs to chip in. Seriously, such a news release: solemn reports about the restoration in Syria, assistance to Africa, preparation for the World Cup in football, but there is no money left to help the girl and it would be nice to throw in everyone a blasphemous and mocking look.
  • Lumumba
    Lumumba 24 May 2016 06: 23
    -4
    Question 1. What, in your opinion, now represents the main internal threat to Russia?


    To the forefront of the threat, today came the first of Russia's three eternal problems: namely, fools. Those fools who believe in pro-Western pseudo-liberals.

    Question 2. Do you agree or disagree with the opinion that there is an economic crisis in Russia?


    A crisis is when you have to plow twice as much, for some reason getting half as much. And with us, as usual, everyone wants to work half as much and get twice as much for it.

    As for me, this is not a crisis, but simply "lafa is over." And those negative phenomena in the economy that we see (the rise in prices, for example) are caused by the banal greed of some of our representatives, by the will of fate representing the "Russian Trade Business". This is the very pro-Western rabble that is exporting currency in sacks abroad in large numbers.

    The country is full of jobs, and those who are not afraid to work will always be fine. Ah, isn't it a lordly thing to "wave a broom"? So what are you complaining about?
    1. siberalt
      siberalt 24 May 2016 06: 52
      +8
      Do you propose to solve the problem of unemployment to leave Moscow to sweep? belay We don't need such "hockey"!
      1. EvgNik
        EvgNik 24 May 2016 07: 09
        +1
        Quote: siberalt
        You propose to solve the problem of unemployment to leave Moscow to sweep

        Oleg, why Moscow? You can sweep at home. By the way, quite intelligent people are doing this here. To pay for utilities.
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 24 May 2016 07: 21
          +1
          Quote: EvgNik
          By the way, quite intelligent people are doing this here. To pay for utilities.

          Zhenya, I wonder how many communal apartments do you have?
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        3. siberalt
          siberalt 24 May 2016 07: 46
          +1
          Everywhere is different. Judging by the rates, we have a lot of janitors. But they really do not work, because they are either dummies, or acquaintances or relatives of those who put them on bets.
        4. Bayonet
          Bayonet 26 May 2016 05: 24
          0
          [quote = EvgNik] [quote = sybiralt] You can sweep at home. By the way, quite intelligent people are doing this here. To pay for utilities. [/ Quote]
          Isn't this a crisis? smile
  • samarin1969
    samarin1969 24 May 2016 06: 30
    +5
    Seed stock, cars, spaceports ... all the raw and non-resource sectors of the economy are vitally dependent on imports.
    Russia's economy is almost entirely dependent on Barrel and the Investor. There is a systemic crisis ...
    ... In Crimea, prices for services and products are growing significantly. If there is a positive in the economy, it is only due to infusions from the budget.
  • ava09
    ava09 24 May 2016 06: 35
    0
    Today’s crisis took shape under Gorbachert, and began much earlier, with the usurpation of power by the Trotskyist Khrushchev. It consists primarily in the loss of identity and roots, loss of connection with the wisdom of the ancestors. There is no understanding of the importance of Popular Unity, which is evident even from the comments of members of the forum. The main crisis is the crisis of Consciousness. Everything else is secondary, the economy too ...
    1. Bayonet
      Bayonet 24 May 2016 06: 52
      +9
      Quote: ava09
      Today’s crisis took shape under Gorbachert, and began much earlier, with the usurpation of power by the Trotskyist Khrushchev.

      Well off and on, Trotsky, Khrushchev, Batu Khan - this is a crisis from another category. wassat
      1. BladeRunner
        BladeRunner 24 May 2016 07: 00
        +2
        Yes, it would be necessary to demand reparations from Mongolia. Given inflation, of course. fellow
      2. ava09
        ava09 24 May 2016 10: 14
        -1
        Quote: Bayonet
        Quote: ava09
        Today’s crisis took shape under Gorbachert, and began much earlier, with the usurpation of power by the Trotskyist Khrushchev.

        Well off and on, Trotsky, Khrushchev, Batu Khan - this is a crisis from another category. wassat

        History teaches you, teaches you, life asks, asks ... And instead of learning from mistakes, you are looking for a rake. Well, what is it called, if you do not break the "rules" of the site?
    2. edeligor
      edeligor 24 May 2016 08: 22
      +3
      Quote: ava09
      began much earlier, with the usurpation of power by the Trotskyist Khrushchev

      Why is it there! Mom, the bastard is to blame! Well done, think globally! Smiled ...
  • Corsair5912
    Corsair5912 24 May 2016 06: 39
    +13
    The crisis is not in the country, but in the stupid heads of thieves who have grabbed public property, and venal greedy officials.
    These creatures are not concerned about the economic situation of the country, but solely personal selfish interests.
    Russia has everything for rapid economic growth: huge financial resources, raw materials, skilled engineers and workers, there is not enough only a state plan and state will to direct everything to boost the economy, and not to enrich our and foreign thieves, scammers, crooks and other parasites.
  • Aleksander
    Aleksander 24 May 2016 06: 39
    +7
    At the time of the 44 survey,% of Russians responded that the country's main internal threat was economic problems, slowdown in economic development and growth of public debt.


    Judging by the answers, the answers were suggested by the questioners. I don’t think that anyone ITSELF said about the "growth of public debt" ....
    And this is no longer a survey.
  • Yak28
    Yak28 24 May 2016 06: 40
    +8
    And it’s interesting in other countries that prices are constantly rising for everything, like ours, so much so that the salary doesn’t keep up. After the collapse of the communist system in Russia, there will be an eternal crisis for someone, because they have to process wealthy bosses, officials and so on, and for someone there will be an eternal lafa. The power of the workers and peasants has gone, now the hard workers are working again, they are working for the master again.
  • Lumumba
    Lumumba 24 May 2016 06: 45
    +3
    ... In Crimea, prices for services and products are growing significantly


    Is there a land connection with Russia? No. Either a ferry, or "patriots of Ukraine" at the border (the average rate for transportation, part of the cargo, or a third of its value). So prices are going up, no wonder.

    all commodity and non-commodity sectors of the economy are vitally dependent on imports.


    Firstly, not all, do not mislead people. Or prove your words by authoritative sources.
    Secondly, show me at least one country that is completely self-sufficient and does not depend on imports.

    Russia's economy is almost entirely dependent on Barrel and the Investor.


    Where does the data about "almost entirely" come from? Sucked out of your finger? Provide links to authoritative sources, confirming the written.

    There is a systemic crisis


    There is a systemic crisis, I agree with that, but this is a crisis of the whole world, and not just of Russia. And this is the crisis of the capitalist system as a whole.
    1. 34 region
      34 region 24 May 2016 07: 32
      +3
      Lumumba! 06.45. And what are the suggestions? So that there are no crises. What need to do? Or maybe the best thing is to abandon the capitalist system? What's so good about her? Are constant crises and wars good? A bunch of rich and a crowd of poverty is the standard of society? We have a crisis because it is everywhere! And what did we do to prevent a crisis? Does your car break down because everyone breaks cars? Only some have more, while others have less. So it turns out? There are no reliable cars? If our economy does not depend on oil prices and investors, then on whom does it depend? If our leadership is shocked by the fall in oil prices (after all, prices never fall! They only rise!) And constantly require investors (come and invest!). How to deal with this? In fact, we are dependent on Barrel and the Investor. And it says at the state level. Why do we sell our assets privately? We don’t have money, but we’ll sell it. Will be. And then they spend money and then what to sell? So what do we do if we ourselves (our government) don’t want to do anything and investors don’t want us either?
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 24 May 2016 10: 49
        0
        All over the world they sell assets in private hands.
        1. voffchik7691
          voffchik7691 25 May 2016 00: 29
          0
          Buy stocks on eg Martin & Marietta, Lockheed and others! Will not work!
          But Chubax sold in the 90s shares of KB MIL and where is now KB? Thu, Thu !!! Look who is talking about the new Mi brand? General Designer of the Moscow Plant. And also the Kazan plant. Yes, yes, a plant, not a design bureau! And this is just design support. And KB is much higher!
          KB Mil was sold to Bell, but she didn’t need a competitor, and he was gone - they bought and closed ...
    2. sa-ag
      sa-ag 24 May 2016 08: 26
      +4
      Quote: Lumumba
      Is there a land connection with Russia?

      I bet after the bridge appears there is another reason, no matter how it sounds, but prices will not go down
      1. screw cutter
        screw cutter 24 May 2016 10: 37
        +2
        Just yesterday I talked with my relatives in the Crimea, prices are rising because in the Krasnodar Territory prices soared that it became more profitable to travel to the Moscow Region.
        We need laws on an infinite number of intermediaries, monetary power is not in the Kremlin, it is in markets and different bases.
        1. Hon
          Hon 24 May 2016 10: 48
          0
          Quote: screw cutter
          Just yesterday I talked with my relatives in the Crimea, prices are rising because in the Krasnodar Territory prices soared that it became more profitable to travel to the Moscow Region.
          We need laws on an infinite number of intermediaries, monetary power is not in the Kremlin, it is in markets and different bases.

          Buy in stores. Prices up? Is it cheaper in the Moscow region? Create your own company and trade without intermediaries, taking into account the lower price, there will be no end to buyers. Only for some reason no one is trading like this, although the benefits of occupying a large market share are obvious, and there are a lot of people who know how to make money.
      2. Vadim237
        Vadim237 24 May 2016 10: 51
        0
        Prices may drop, but not by much - no one will refuse from profits.
  • Delink
    Delink 24 May 2016 06: 58
    +12
    -We, fools, have Stored for a hundred years! (Features of Russian hunting)
    So why ask us?
    While the government will solve its selfish issues, nothing will change in the country. And the crisis will continue in their heads and country.
    It is necessary to change the financing of areas. Most of the money earned should be left in the region, and only 5% should be given to Moscow. And it turns out that Moscow distributes to whom how much to allocate and at the same time does not forget about good things in the first place.
    I want to go to the USSR, everything was thought out there and everything was controlled by the authorities. Now there is no control: for prices, for governors, or why. Everything is left to chance, maybe the curve somewhere will lead.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 24 May 2016 07: 40
      -2
      Quote: Delink
      I want to the USSR, everything was thought out there and everything was controlled by the authorities

      And why do taxes go to Moscow?
      1. voffchik7691
        voffchik7691 25 May 2016 00: 33
        0
        I think here I mean taxes go to the federal center.
    2. Vadim237
      Vadim237 24 May 2016 10: 56
      0
      Moscow and the region have been sitting on self-sufficiency for a long time, yet a 12 trillion rubles turnover in goods is not frail and deductions to the treasury are not small.
    3. Hon
      Hon 24 May 2016 11: 42
      0
      Taxes go to the federal budget, and the Moscow treasury is replenished with taxes collected in Moscow
  • feniks
    feniks 24 May 2016 07: 00
    +6
    Thieves and corrupt officials created an artificial economic crisis to hide behind when robbing the people, aided by Putin and the liberal-Medvedev government.
  • Yak28
    Yak28 24 May 2016 07: 01
    +7
    Question 1 What, in your opinion, now represents the main internal threat to Russia?
    The most terrible threat to Russia is our government, which has ruined the USSR, plundered Russia, undermined the state’s defense, and how many moronic laws and decrees have been invented to get money from people. Now they muddied with pensions, I think people who are 40 years old or younger without a pension will remain or will not live to see it. And how do you rename the police to the police? Something crime has not decreased lol And in Moscow, rent receipts about laughing, they introduced about 50 rubles a month for a combination lock that is of no use (you can wait until someone leaves or enters the entrance and enters with it), but for this several thousand are collected monthly from the entrance, but how you need a major repair fee that someone can do in 20 years, people make money from the air. They removed free dentistry in clinics, well, it’s not nonsense laughing So it’s not the US Army that is afraid, but our government, which destroyed the USSR, which the United States and Hitler didn’t manage wink
    1. sa-ag
      sa-ag 24 May 2016 08: 30
      +3
      Quote: Yak28
      The most terrible threat to Russia is our government

      That's how, interestingly, "... satisfied with the work of the government" (C) Encyclopedia of Contemporary History :-)
  • fif21
    fif21 24 May 2016 07: 05
    +14
    Once again, using numbers, they try to present black with white.
    1. The curtailment of social programs, the decline in the standard of living of the unprotected layers of the population (pensioners, people with disabilities). Preparation of the pension reform in which the state eliminates the content of the elderly. Your old age is your problem, that’s the essence of this reform. Isn't that a crisis?
    A crisis! And not only economic, but also moral.
    2. The numbers of Rosstat are similar to the numbers from a parallel galaxy.
    3. Budget money is being torn apart (mastered) goes at the speed of a sawmill.
    4. Everything for business, everything for industry, everything for economic growth. But there will be no big growth — who and with what money will buy manufactured goods? Only exporters will survive.
    5.Read the statistics of the Ministry of Internal Affairs - the growth of thefts, robberies, robberies is a crisis in the economy, a decrease means economic growth.
    6. A cheap labor cannot create a consumer boom (economic growth) means the government’s reckoning on the export of cheap goods from the country, and further impoverishment of the population is inevitable.
    7. The main internal threat to Russia is the stratification of society, and the impoverishment of the population.
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  • avg-mgn
    avg-mgn 24 May 2016 07: 07
    +2
    It’s interesting, and what is the result of the initiators of the survey? Who does not think that there is a crisis? Who will say that we live in an era of prosperity? Maybe the Cabinet of Ministers (and that’s not all, there are a couple of three reasonable people among the ministers) or Chubais and all ...
    1. fif21
      fif21 24 May 2016 08: 02
      +5
      Quote: avg-mgn
      It’s interesting, and what is the result of the initiators of the survey?
      They test how many Papuans still remain in Russia laughing How much longer can you play promises of a brighter future, economic growth in 2020 — for those who survive, cynics — what else can they be called? For myself, I have long understood that hoping and trusting the state and politicians is not reasonable. hi
  • Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 24 May 2016 07: 17
    +4
    A crisis is when the shelves in stores are empty, you can freeze food on radiators, and at work they give out salaries in some form of the products of their plant (in Izhevsk - "Kalashi" laughing ). It's just LAFA over. I will not say for the States, I myself have not been, and retelling other people's stories is not a gratifying thing, I will say for Europe, in particular, for Germany. The majority of the population, with the external speciousness, is 100% credited, as they say, up to the grave. Every euro cent is counted. Work (if you're lucky) overtime, or earn extra money, on the side, for, do not be surprised BLACK NAL! They HATE their taxation with fierce hatred - taxes are there - on everyone - atas, we never dreamed of. Simple food is cheap, but not every average worker can afford a Steak. They really don't like talking about earnings and financial solvency, but if you "divorce" this business, you can learn so many interesting things. And about vacations - TWO WEEKS of paid, and about cars that are FORCED to change more often with the help of taxes, and about gasoline (ask about the price, it is available on the network), and about loans that children will pay off. 80% of the population rents housing, and a lousy treshka with a walk-through room, a living room of 40 meters and a 6-meter kitchen costs 800 euros! Without a communal apartment! So that's it. This is FIRST HANDS for those who are concerned that they cannot afford what they were three years ago. And the hostess of my friend, by the way, is not sickly receiving (4 thousand € a month) in the morning takes a bag and rummages around the shops, having in her hands a list of sales from the Internet in order to save a few euros on food.
    Here some neighbors in the west decided that they urgently needed to go to Europe, they jumped - there would be no need to go before this matter and "have a drink" themselves. But the lads have always loved freebies, they were beckoned ... And now there is a CRISIS. And the people do not live, but survive. And this is not a figure of speech, recently (in April I spoke with colleagues from Maidania, before there were respected people with decent income, but now ...).
    1. avva2012
      avva2012 24 May 2016 07: 48
      +4
      Quote: Mountain shooter... and Europe, in particular, for Germany. The majority of the population, with external cunning, is credited with 100%, as they say, by the grave of life. Every eurocent counts. Work (if you're lucky) overtime, or work part time, on the side, for, do not be surprised BLACK NAL! They hate their tax hate with fierce hatred - taxes there - at all - atas, we never dreamed of. Simple food is cheap, but not every average worker can afford a steak.

      Are you probably Putin? belay
      But, seriously, fairy tales about jelly shores in old Europe, these are fairy tales that are already being heard, "from the European wave" and "Voice of America", which year? Previously, it was impossible to check, but what was shown on TV (demonstrations, clashes with the police, beggars on the street, blacks in Harlim, miners' strikes), was considered Soviet propaganda, "they got drunk, so they rage."
      Strange, but still, although there is the opportunity to go and talk with those who traveled (lived), many continue to believe that the senile old woman named Europe, this is heaven on earth.
      Maybe it's better to believe in something else?
  • Per se.
    Per se. 24 May 2016 07: 17
    +5
    If we paraphrase the classic a little, then we must understand that it is impossible to live in capitalism and be free from its laws. Capitalism, as a world system, has long been formed, the leader and master of this system was determined and consolidated after the last two world wars, these are the Anglo-Saxons, these are the USA and Britain. Without the Soviet Union, the main world rival of capitalism, which could have played not by their rules and had its own world pole of power, disappeared. There is no USSR, no camp of socialism, no true multipolar world, Russia picked up capitalism from the dustbin of history, and, therefore, became an economic vassal of this world system and its masters. Capitalism's positive for civilization ended with the emergence of transnational monopolies, which require permanent sales markets, new incomes, new colonies, this is a progression that leads to a dead end, since it is impossible to endlessly increase income without ever new colonies, without world financial pyramids. The states have long been de facto bankrupt, a super-debtor country, and this country is the leader and actual owner of the entire world capitalist system. So is there a crisis in Russia if we are in world capitalism? The States need a "reboot", in their constantly hanging parasitic system, this is a new war, new incomes on blood and debt relief at the expense of the losers. Let the whole world burn, but money will drip. And what does Russia need, to oust the States from their world throne, to become a new or "parallel" leaders in an obviously outmoded system, flawed, both by all moral standards, and dead-end and disastrous for civilization? The question that follows whether there is a crisis in Russia ... We still live at the expense of the Soviet margin of safety, and it will soon end, not too bourgeois and have breathed something positive into the country ...
    1. gladcu2
      gladcu2 24 May 2016 20: 59
      0
      Per.se

      Well said. But the States are not to be crowded.
      They themselves understand what you just said. Slowly, all of Russia and the States will get out. The main thing is that there is no war.
  • Nix1986
    Nix1986 24 May 2016 07: 22
    +9
    Our real affairs differ greatly with pre-election comments, as far as I remember, on all direct lines, DAM and GDP speak of the need to make credit resources more accessible and stimulate the real sector, while Gref, justifying the sharp drop in the rate on deposits, said literally "money for us already nowhere to go "- would be glad to give, but at least at 15%. And who is the balvan? Listening to all this or speaking ?!
  • asiat_61
    asiat_61 24 May 2016 07: 28
    +6
    Of course there is a crisis, and even a very one. Western sanctions are an excuse for the liberals to do nothing (at best). The Central Bank of the Russian Federation, one of the culprits of the current state of the country's economy. The government is stupidly not doing anything and is waiting for price increases for oil, Medvedev openly talks about this. Delyagin claims that about 7 trillion rubles are hanging around in the budget, and Medvedev is pushing for new privatization to get 1 (one) trillion rubles. And Putin doesn’t really mind. Now the Economy Guru, Kudrin, prepares all of us kirdyk. Leading economists A.N. R.F.provides their resuscitation program for industry, but there are such draconian measures that it will be difficult to steal.
  • Runx135
    Runx135 24 May 2016 07: 32
    +12
    Small business owner. We work in the service sector. Business and private owners. Consumables for business all imported from domestic - rental. Current situation: expenses due to the exchange rate have almost doubled, respectively, incomes have fallen. Even before that, we were not oligarchs, but now it has become very difficult. Previously, the staff was seven people, now we can barely cope with the salary of four people, I'm thinking about further reductions. All the stocks are eaten up, we live today ... I myself have never been seated, as I say the playing coach, i.e. there is still room for maneuver, reduce the rental area, reduce staff for a minimum. These are the thoughts. A crisis? No, have not heard... wassat
    1. Runx135
      Runx135 24 May 2016 08: 11
      +13
      Someone minus, sorry. I am not a pessimist, and I believe that we can get out of this situation. You only need to work and not sit out your pants. I’ve been working without holidays for more than ten years, only once during this time I was able to send my wife and daughter (barely), I myself have never been. I pay taxes a month a little less than I earn a month, minus further. Sorry, but they still tell me that there may not be any pensions, but do you know how much is paid to the insurance part of the pension, not to the funded, but to the insurance ??? Negative ...
      1. asiat_61
        asiat_61 24 May 2016 09: 18
        0
        They just need to blurt out, they do not need to think at all. The brain wears out.
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    3. fif21
      fif21 24 May 2016 08: 11
      -1
      Quote: Runx135
      Consumables for business all imported from domestic - rental.
      Or importo replace or around the world. It is necessary to listen to the President, even if from the heard the hair stands on end and the fists itch.
  • DEDUCHKA
    DEDUCHKA 24 May 2016 07: 34
    +13
    The people have long understood that this so-called "economic crisis" will never end as long as they steal on such a scale. This can be seen from the country's global construction projects: preparations for the Winter Olympics in Sochi, the Vostochny cosmodrome, now a bridge to Crimea (Kozak admitted that building materials are purchased through intermediaries at a price 2-3 times higher than the market price). And that's just big. And in small things - this is the lack of normal roads in Russia, etc. And the entire economy of the country is subordinated to the buy-sell principle. Why are the prices for food and everything else (electricity, gasoline, medicines, etc.) high? Because all deliveries go through intermediaries who receive super-profits without doing anything at all. Remove this link from the supplier-seller chain, and everything will fall into place. In short, corruption in our country is invincible without tough measures. It turns out, however, the crisis is in their heads !!!
  • nik1321
    nik1321 24 May 2016 07: 37
    +2
    "There is a systemic crisis, I agree with this, but this is a crisis of the whole world, not just Russia. And this is a crisis of the capitalist system as a whole."

    The result of a systemic crisis is the economic crisis (sooner or later) further only war (internal or external) - if nothing is changed ...
    For example, could you explain the impact of the cap system crisis on Canada, Germany ??? How much did their monetary unit collapse?
    Personally, I am surprised by something else - the very question of the existence of a crisis in the country.
    If it is unclear to anyone what you can talk about at all, probably only about the football championship.
  • Snow323
    Snow323 24 May 2016 07: 38
    -1
    If you think so, then here in Russia we have been living in a permanent crisis for about 30 years. And the main distinguishing feature of the current crisis is where they started investing in order not to burn out. The lines in electronics and technology stores at the time the ruble began were scary. Not queues for stew and ammunition, but for plasma TVs ... Crisis, damn it!
  • Kudrevkn
    Kudrevkn 24 May 2016 07: 38
    +3
    Take a look. what is happening in France today is waiting for Russia in 2017, to the 100th anniversary of the Revolutions! The main thing is that the current "creators and leaders" of these modern revolutions do not have time to fade into emigration? The Russian revolt is senseless and merciless, but it can have at least some meaning (unlike the Ukrop Maidan) if it brings a real renewal of Power !? Even bloody, for the creation of the Ros Guard "speaks and shows" that Power will not give up this power so simply, without a fight! It would be logical to ask this very Power: "What shisha did United Russia run its" preliminary primaries for? " Is it not for budget money, that is, at the expense of old people, roads, "Platon", etc.? "For such" tricks "in Brazil, the President organized a" magic pendel "by the opposition, but in our country a people's ax can be organized - according to folk Russian tradition? It's as usual!
    1. sa-ag
      sa-ag 24 May 2016 08: 01
      +3
      Quote: KudrevKN
      Russian revolt senseless and merciless

      No, look at the history, there were two big Stepan Razin and Emelyan Pugachev riots, and both basically did not lead to anything, but when similar movements of the near-elite elite began, as a rule the figure in power changed, along with the team , once everything has changed dramatically, so if something happens, it will start from above
      1. Kudrevkn
        Kudrevkn 24 May 2016 08: 29
        +5
        Well "let's see" - in 1914, as it were now said, "the ratings of Nicholas II" went off scale "with a bang - patriotism", but what is the result? 1917! And in 1918 - the house of the merchant Ipatiev! Fresher in 1985, Gorbachev's ratings again "roll over" from "popular love and adoration": "Perestroika", "glasnost", "sobriety", tragic 1986, successful 1988 and like "alles fishin" 1990, "control in the head of the USSR" 1991, "Alles in the corner, tsuryuk in the bright future of communism" ?! Nowadays history repeats itself "in a spiral" - adoration. the ratings are going off scale, some kind of catastrophe, the collapse of domestic politics and the economy, the disappointment of the masses ("the lower classes do not want to"). Naturally, "the top can no longer" offer something FUNNY to do and ... bam? TSURYUK ALLES!
        1. sa-ag
          sa-ag 24 May 2016 08: 39
          +2
          Quote: KudrevKN
          Nowadays history repeats itself "in a spiral" - adoration. ratings go off scale, some kind of catastrophe, collapse of domestic politics and economy, disappointment of the masses ("the lower classes do not want"). naturally, "the top can no longer" suggest doing something FUNNY and

          Well, in the west, in particular, in Switzerland and Finland they want to introduce unconditional income, we are waiting for a referendum, if it works, then socialism is on the horizon and again from the west :-)
        2. avva2012
          avva2012 24 May 2016 08: 42
          +2
          Quote: KudrevKN Well "let's see" - in 1914, as it were now said, "the ratings of Nicholas II" went off scale "with a bang - patriotism", but what is the result?

          Where did you read this? "Nicholas the Bloody" - is it an invention of the Bolsheviks?
          Not interested in the number of peasant riots, strikes and other manifestations of people's love? The fact that part of the capital's population and newspapermen were yelling at the beginning of WWI is not an indicator. Gorbachev, well, they loved him very much after the decrees on the fight against drunkenness, as well as for coupons for sausage. So your "spirals" are provocative. What are you hinting at, actually?
          1. Kudrevkn
            Kudrevkn 24 May 2016 09: 27
            -5
            In Solzhenitsyn's "First Circle - 1914"! And about Nikolai the Bloody and Gapon, as I understand it. just from the school curriculum, young man, did you know? In addition to textbooks, it was necessary to read, for example, MA Bulgakov like "White Guard", "Run" or "Heart of a Dog": "Do not read Soviet newspapers before dinner"! or "Devastation is in the heads: when they enter and leave the room through the" back "passage (" anus ". This is from me) and urinate past the toilet in the restroom! And the" spirals "are not mine, but Stories !? According to Solzhenitsyn ...
            1. avva2012
              avva2012 24 May 2016 10: 07
              +7
              You and Solzhenitsyn would walk to the place where they read him. A young man with an "anus".
              Solzhenitsyn himself, I think, is in the ninth circle.
              1. Kudrevkn
                Kudrevkn 25 May 2016 06: 55
                -2
                Well, your attitude to Solzhenitsyn is understandable, as well as to "out of class" reading! Have you mastered the primer, a young man without an "anus"?
            2. voffchik7691
              voffchik7691 25 May 2016 00: 47
              +1
              The peasant has a cool, speaking surname - WITH FALSE NITZIN - with a lie! And is that your authority? Do you know that he wrote a denunciation to his first wife on which she was imprisoned ?! He has his ass in shit, and he still tried to expose himself with the conscience of the country! And his numbers are slightly (10 times) too high!
              1. Kudrevkn
                Kudrevkn 26 May 2016 13: 27
                0
                Dear Vovchik! I don’t know about the account of my first wife, I personally have never met a Nobel Prize winner in literature or a dissident writer WITH LIER NITZIN (so it seems you wrote the name of a Russian writer in the Chinese manner?) I have never met! But I am SURE that Solzhenitsyn, a front-line soldier and a scout hero, has never been a coward and a scoundrel! Person. past the war and the Stalinist prisons and camps (by far-fetched denunciation), certainly has its own opinion and the right to express their thoughts and views on the Power and life of the People! Therefore, if you also fought or were oppressed by the Government or were personally offended or insulted by Solzhenitsyn, then of course you can yap ... like a sub-Moska?
        3. bober1982
          bober1982 24 May 2016 09: 45
          +2
          KudrevKN:And in 1918, the house of the merchant Ipatiev!
          Ipatiev was an engineer, he was not a merchant, and Nicholas II's rating in 1914 did not go through the roof, the patriotic enthusiasm of the masses was expressed in the pogroms of German shopkeepers. In general, TsURYUK ALLES is still a long way off.
          1. Kudrevkn
            Kudrevkn 26 May 2016 13: 13
            0
            It was Lenin who did not have ratings in 1914 - even in the Bolshevik camp there was a split over the issue of the war? Ilyich even wrote on this occasion a number of his articles with programmatic theses like "Let's turn the imperialist war into a revolutionary war of liberation" !? Read, in the Civil - "Peace to the huts, war to the palaces"! As for the drop in the GDP rating, today the first step down has been taken ... with the release of Savchenko? There is still a couple - three steps left and an abyss, according to Ilyich?
    2. fif21
      fif21 24 May 2016 08: 19
      +3
      Quote: KudrevKN
      It would be logical to ask this very Power: "What shisha did United Russia run its" preliminary primaries for? "

      September rehearsal! But the figure of 10 million for the EP must be remembered, for comparison with the September.
      1. Kudrevkn
        Kudrevkn 24 May 2016 09: 31
        -4
        "All the same, my friend, all the same!" It is inapplicable to remember and ... shoot! As a counter-revolution! "(Collected Works, VI Lenin. Vol. 39, p. 137, 4 abts.) Just kidding!
      2. voffchik7691
        voffchik7691 25 May 2016 00: 49
        +1
        I wonder what factors will affect the increase in the vote for EP in the fall? Nevertheless, it is necessary to justify somehow the increase from 10% to 60-70%!
        1. Hon
          Hon 25 May 2016 08: 57
          +1
          magic is going on at our Central Election Commission
  • Kibalchish
    Kibalchish 24 May 2016 07: 40
    +1
    This is no longer a crisis, it is a collapse.
  • Ryazan75
    Ryazan75 24 May 2016 07: 41
    +1
    The crisis distinctly smelled in 2012. We work mainly with budget organizations. From mid-2012, state employees began to have problems with money. At the moment, the city and regional budgets are empty, there are no orders, wage arrears 4 months.
  • Volzhanin
    Volzhanin 24 May 2016 07: 41
    +11
    Neither the ruling party nor the current government are capable. Both of them are political impotent people, compromising themselves with corruption, theft, clumsy laws and monstrous incompetence.
    You have to be either a nerd or in their cohort in order to vote for "E-Russia" in the next elections.
    As if, everything is in our hands. laughing
    1. Karabin
      Karabin 24 May 2016 09: 45
      0
      Quote: Volzhanin
      You have to be either a nerd or in their cohort in order to vote for "E-Russia" in the next elections.

      So we will soon find out how many nerds in the cohort. My forecast is 68%.
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      2. fif21
        fif21 24 May 2016 18: 32
        +1
        Quote: Karabin
        So we will soon find out how many nerds in the cohort. My forecast is 68%.
        Really 9 out of 32 million but no more! They have already voted laughing
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    3. fif21
      fif21 24 May 2016 14: 41
      +1
      Quote: Volzhanin
      Both are political impotents,

      And how do they have a country? request Starting from the elderly and the disabled (pensioners) ending with the oligarchs request And now, even Barak himself and his girlfriend Merkel were swung, and I hope they will do their job to the applause of the Russians. Russia entered the world of capitalism according to the most Netherlands-reconcile adversaries wassat
  • surrozh
    surrozh 24 May 2016 07: 45
    +2
    Lafa is definitely over, and the era of "consumerism" too. And the crisis forced the government to turn towards the country's economy. And the elections are coming soon, the "people's pendel" of the political "elite" will help accelerate. But the purchasing power of the people has decreased by half - the dollar has grown by 100%, it is obvious to everyone that the polls are unnecessary.
    1. Karabin
      Karabin 24 May 2016 08: 36
      +7
      There is a crisis. In all areas. And this is a crisis of the semi-feudal political system of the country. Rising from the knees, quite predictably, turned into a knee-elbow pose, given the composition of managers and performers. The sun of the nation, appointing Kudrin as the savior of the economy, gave a clear message, due to whom the state would slowly die.
    2. dr. sem
      dr. sem 25 May 2016 10: 33
      -1
      Solntselykiy created the National Russian Guard for the "people's pendel" ...
  • Million
    Million 24 May 2016 07: 50
    +10
    Prices doubled, and salaries even decreased. Production closes, with pensions it’s not clear what is happening, etc. Isn’t this a crisis?
  • Alex66
    Alex66 24 May 2016 07: 56
    +8
    There is a crisis, we didn’t go on vacation that year, we won’t go on the same trip - we save, orders fell (the population has no money), workshops that have no volumes started to close, customers run around all the companies in search of the best prices. The crisis is not yet fully felt, because there is something to discard: holidays, new clothes, treatment to be postponed until later ... Soon it will end. But the problem is the government’s irresponsibility, did not fulfill the order, and there is no punishment, in the worst case they will be transferred to a less dusty job.
  • Gardamir
    Gardamir 24 May 2016 07: 59
    +14
    Brains are cracking! That is ruled by the greatest of all times and peoples. That is the crisis. For some reason, they are unhappy with Nabiullina, although this great one appointed her. Who is Kudrin now invited? Likely Obama sent from the State Department.
    The main thing is that you do not forget your statements when you go to the polls. And now EDRO is the most caring party, and how the elections will be held, they will start rowing again. So in the election, vote not for Medvedev’s party. And in the next election, make the right choice, who are you patriots of Russia or Syria!
    1. sa-ag
      sa-ag 24 May 2016 08: 19
      +5
      Quote: Gardamir
      who you are
    2. Karabin
      Karabin 24 May 2016 12: 38
      +3
      Quote: Gardamir
      Brains are cracking! That is ruled by the greatest of all times and peoples. That is the crisis.

      Any wayrast will explain to you that Nabiulina and Kudrin are a trick of the greatest, like enemies should be kept closer to yourself, and the Medvedev government should not be looked for later, but you should take all at once warm, though Serdyukov is a thief, but an army reformed, and stole, so that the Obama thought that everything was bad with us, etc. Well, or as an option, they will give the version of the unicorn Fedorov, who was completely taken away, about the president - partisans behind enemy lines.
  • asiat_61
    asiat_61 24 May 2016 08: 17
    +8
    I read the comments and remembered the old joke. In the bullpen, there’s a conversation about who for what. The man says: “I'm for politics.” “Explain who are you?” “I, a plumber, called in the regional committee, examined everything and said:“ Yes, I’m changing the whole system necessary.
  • AlexYa
    AlexYa 24 May 2016 08: 28
    -3
    Who composes these surveys? They're going on ...! Yes, the crisis. But! There is a crisis throughout the world. And so, against the background of this, such polls give a "smell" - like, in Russia there is a crisis, but everywhere it goes.
  • Siberia
    Siberia 24 May 2016 08: 34
    +8
    For me, Russia is in a very serious crisis. And he is much tougher than you see above. And all the actions of the Government of the Russian Federation somehow most of all look like an imitation of violent activity, and not a way out of this impasse. And the population is paying the price for this mediocre anti-popular economic and political policy! Now more than ever the phrase “the poor are getting poorer, the rich are getting richer” is relevant. It has become twice as expensive to travel abroad, real incomes have also fallen by about two times, and the tax burden (including hidden ones) is growing daily. If nothing changes for the better, then many will try to switch to complete self-sufficiency in food (their own household, garden, vegetable garden), and will begin to move from cities to the countryside and the surrounding forests, because paying for utilities becomes difficult what. And there it is not far before the revolution or the invasion of neighboring countries in order to seize our territory and resources.
  • edeligor
    edeligor 24 May 2016 08: 34
    +4
    You know, I remembered, at the dawn of all modern events, namely somewhere in August-September 14, Putin, in one of the interviews said (I don’t remember literally, but the meaning is) that if there was no crisis, then it had to be invented , in order to stop the growth of incomes of the population far outstripping labor productivity. I remember very much then surprised ... As for me, the crisis certainly takes place. I agree with the GDP that it is necessary, but not to reduce revenues, but to get away from oil dependence, which is not really being done. The government of Dimona, together with "guru" Kudrin, into the dustbin of history, their time has passed.
    1. Karabin
      Karabin 24 May 2016 12: 27
      +4
      Quote: edeligor
      The government of Dimona, together with "guru" Kudrin, are in the dustbin of history, their time has passed.

      This is your time has not yet begun, and they are just in time and to the place. And Kudrina, if you do not know, the guarantor you recently adored, asked me to head the council with you beloved, in order to save the economy.
      1. asiat_61
        asiat_61 24 May 2016 14: 21
        0
        Kudrin, to the place and time? Original.
  • vladimirvn
    vladimirvn 24 May 2016 08: 38
    +6
    I recall the immortal. From the work May Day of the Revolutionary Proletariat (1913) by V. I. Lenin (1870–1924): “For the revolution, it is not enough that the lower classes do not want to live as before. It also requires that the upper ranks could not manage and manage, as before. ”Thus, V. I. Lenin formulated and singled out three main objective and subjective attributes that describe the crisis situation in society on the eve of the revolution:
    1. The tops cannot control in the old way - the inability of the ruling class to maintain its dominance unchanged;
    2. Niza do not want to live in the old way - a sharp aggravation above the ordinary need and calamities of the oppressed classes and their desire to change their lives for the better;
    3. A significant increase in the activity of the masses, attracted, both by the whole situation of the crisis, and by the “tops” themselves, to an independent historical performance.
  • Monster_Fat
    Monster_Fat 24 May 2016 08: 41
    +16
    First, let's define the concept of "crisis". "Crisis" can be private, and it can be general. A private "crisis" affects only one sector of the economy or several sectors and forms of distribution, part of public relations, the public sector, part of political structures or parties, etc. A general crisis affects all of the country's economy and distribution system and social relations and the political system, etc. So let's take a look at the list we have a "crisis" and if it is, what kind: "private" or "general".
    1) What about the economy? Developing or stagnating? Answer: the economy is in full ... ne, with the exception of the defense industry and then the defense industry is "sausage" not childishly "the latest news" Alfa Bank "is bankrupt (for the umpteenth time!)" Uralvagonzavod ". Even more or less" flourish " those industries and enterprises that feed on the state "trough", that is, those who can lobby themselves for "direct" financial injections, all the rest, let's say, are trying to survive. The main factor that killed any production in Russia is simply unaffordable "loans" which are paid and serviced overseas profitability for slow money production.
    2) Financial sector. Here, too, banks full of seams have not learned how to service the real sector of the economy with loans, but this, in principle, is not important now, since such "service" is now simply impossible in principle, due to the high rate of "refinancing".
    3) Distribution system. Here the crisis is on the face - "there is no money for anything": the pension reform is being prepared and introduced in such a way as to gradually deprive the entire population of any pension payments in the future from the state, this time. Two-the salaries of the population do not grow, and those that are earned are delayed with payment or do not pay at all, that's two. Third, and most importantly, the "devaluation" of the ruble has halved the purchasing power of Russian ruble salaries.
    4) Scope of sales and services. It is also in a deep w ... ne because of the third point, well, this is a no brainer, where the "demand" can come from if salaries, in terms of purchasing power, fell by 2 times, and prices for everything increased by another 50-100%.
    5) Public relations. They are also in deep crisis, for a simple reason - society is deprived of levers of influence on the adoption of certain government decisions, as well as control over the actions of this government. Various "pocket" "public" organizations such as the "Valdai Forum" and others do not have any official rights to influence anything in the country. State bureaucratic lawlessness has reached a critical level, says 2 million! calls from Russian citizens to the President so that he can influence officials in different regions who do not want to do anything for the citizens of the country, or who are doing "lawlessness."
    6) Political system. Well, you all know that one party, the United Russia Party, is in power. Do you know what the people call her? EP- "We eat Russia", I think that says it all.
    And now he makes a conclusion, whether we have a crisis or not, and which crisis is "partial" or "general". Personally, my conclusion is that there is a "crisis" in the country, and it has become "universal" long ago.
    1. avva2012
      avva2012 24 May 2016 08: 57
      0
      Quote: Monster_Fat with the exception of the defense industry, and then the defense industry "sausage" is not childish

      Defense production - the area of ​​production (industry) of the state, which is a set of research, testing institutions, organizations and production enterprises that carry out the development, testing, production and disposal of weapons, military and special equipment and other property for the armed forces (power structures) of the state.
      That is, OP accumulates all production in the country. For what not, everything has one way or another to do with the OP. Therefore, when you say that we have "with the exception", then you must imply that you were thinking about something else when you wrote.
      Public relations. They are also in a deep crisis, for a simple reason, society is devoid of leverage over the adoption of certain government decisions

      Please name the country where society influences. Maybe the USA?
      1. sa-ag
        sa-ag 24 May 2016 09: 14
        +1
        Quote: avva2012
        That is, the OP accumulates all the production in the country.

        That you are very excited about all the production in the country, what about the provision of consumer goods?
      2. Monster_Fat
        Monster_Fat 24 May 2016 09: 17
        +2
        On the first point, naturally, the OP is interconnected with all sectors of the country's economy and, in many respects, also with foreign counterparties. I meant that there is still some kind of "movement" in the OP because of defense orders both within the country and from abroad. But the OP is also sausage in many respects due to the fact that funding comes through a bunch of "intermediaries" who eat up a large share or is delayed by government agencies that have their own interests.

        On the second point: "Yes, you" my friend "do not read newspapers" (pun intended, excuse me). Society through the forms of self-government strongly influences the decisions of government officials in countries such as Norway, Sweden, Finland, France, etc. And by the way, in the United States, too, through a developed system of self-government and separation of federal powers, powers of states, counties, lands and municipalities. How does this happen? Here are a couple of links for you to read:
        http://www.m-economy.ru/art.php?nArtId=2142
        http://www.bankreferatov.ru/referats/9E89AFF157DE3CDAC3257598006FF8D4/%D0%BA%D0%

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  • Was mammoth
    Was mammoth 24 May 2016 08: 55
    +3
    The hand wavered. wink I pressed the wrong button.
    This, depending on whom. Well, the President’s salary has grown, which means growth, not crisis. And, here, among those who, even according to official statistics, fell into the number of beggars, the crisis deepens. Probably, the authorities believe that the number of loafers has increased. True, this process can be called in other words.
    I think that the "successful overcoming of the crisis" is partly due to the upcoming elections. And there is preparation for them. All resources of power will be used. The so-called "primaries of the United Russia" gathered almost 9 million people. It would be interesting to know the social status of those who participated in it.
    1. sa-ag
      sa-ag 24 May 2016 09: 12
      +2
      Quote: There was a mammoth
      The so-called "primaries of the United Russia" gathered almost 9 million people. It would be interesting to know the social status of those who participated in it.

      Yesterday evening I just stumbled upon Posner’s transfer with some uncle from United Russia, and so they were mostly aware of these elections and came to them mainly in the age group of 60 and settlements up to a million people, i.e. low-income citizens, the turnout in Moscow was 4%, the picture is like who has average income and above all these elections are not needed, those below the average have hopes for changes, therefore
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    3. fif21
      fif21 24 May 2016 10: 49
      +1
      Quote: There was a mammoth
      It would be interesting to know the social status of those participating in it.
      Politically active part of the population laughing laughing laughing
  • runway
    runway 24 May 2016 09: 02
    +11
    Today, for such a discussion - distrust of the current course, you can get a real term.
    And what, it’s easy with us, the law already exists. Under fussed. The prosecutor will be the same.
    Maybe that's why, in the official media, banderlogs are zombified with anything, but not with a SYSTEM crisis .... To understand this, you do not even need to be a liberal. Many have already felt this on themselves. Salaries, privileges, prices, mortgages, loans, collectors .... Banks are slowly breaking one after another and silence ....
    "We are waiting for the growth of the rate of a barrel of oil!" But the prices, that's a shame, grow in our country at any oil price. And what do you expect if in an oil-producing country, gasoline is more expensive than in the countries of its import ...
    But what are we all about the economy. Let's look at healthcare, education, or even systematic non-fulfillment of a state defense order.
    No guys, not Western sanctions are to blame for our current situation. They steal their own.
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    2. fif21
      fif21 24 May 2016 11: 07
      +8
      Quote: piston
      The prosecutor will be the same.

      So I want to ask, as an honest taxpayer, when will they stop stealing money collected from people as taxes? When will payments to the pension fund be collected in full? When will Russia live not according to concepts, but according to the law? When, having paid the money, I will be sure that I will not poison myself with food, I will fill the tank of the car with good gasoline and good oil in the engine? Why don't I get it after paying for hot water? And many more why and when. Or does the sheriff not care about the problems of the "Redskins"? hi