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Mass media: the "edge" of NATO forces being created in Eastern Europe will be powerless in the event of a conflict with the Russian Federation

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NATO will not be able to deploy full-fledged forces on its eastern frontiers to confront the Russian Federation in the event of a conflict, says the Financial Times RIA News.


Mass media: the "edge" of NATO forces being created in Eastern Europe will be powerless in the event of a conflict with the Russian Federation


“The rapid reaction force group (the so-called spearhead, Spearhead Force) began to emerge following the NATO summit in Wales in 2014. Its goal was declared the defense of the Eastern European members of the alliance, and the size of the group is expected to increase to five thousand soldiers, ”the newspaper reminds.

However, NATO believes that this "edge" will be very vulnerable "because of the strengthening of the Russian troops in the Kaliningrad region." The deployed forces, according to the author, "will be defeated before they are ready for battle."

“Russia has anti-aircraft and anti-ship complexes both land and sea-based, as well as combat aircraft in the Kaliningrad region and other regions. These clusters of Russian forces create problems that we fully recognize and take into account when planning ”, - told the publication in the press service of the alliance.

“Because of this vulnerability, NATO intends to increase its contingent on the eastern frontiers,” the article says. - The Alliance plans to deploy four battalions near the borders with Russia: in Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania and Poland. Nevertheless, the alliance believes that the "spear point" may be useful in countering "hybrid threats" from Russia. "

As previously reported, the issue of expanding forces in Eastern Europe will be considered at the July NATO summit in Warsaw.
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  1. shooter18
    shooter18 16 May 2016 09: 36
    +15
    And they tell us that missile defense in Europe is not against Russia ... Well, well ...
    1. Vend
      Vend 16 May 2016 09: 38
      +9
      Yes, Ukraine will participate in this war. This is the strongest army in Europe. They will tear us apart. like tuzik heating pad laughing
      1. Yak-3P
        Yak-3P 16 May 2016 09: 46
        +1
        with wills, let the current keep am
        1. DEfindER
          DEfindER 16 May 2016 14: 35
          +2
          In any case, underestimating the enemy, the first step to defeat. Before the great Patriotic war, in our country, too, everyone simply laughed, talking about a possible German attack, they said let them just try to tear them right away, but it turned out everything was not so rosy ..
          1. Zoldat_A
            Zoldat_A 16 May 2016 17: 29
            +3
            Quote: DEfindER
            In any case, underestimating the enemy, the first step to defeat. Before the great Patriotic war, in our country, too, everyone simply laughed, talking about a possible German attack, they said let them just try to tear them right away, but it turned out everything was not so rosy ..

            In any case, there is something that cannot be discounted. It is when some are fighting for "expanding living space" (for "robbing", "establishing democracy", for "fighting weapons of mass destruction" - it does not matter), and the second - for their LAND and the life of their country.

            In this context, no one has ever won and will not win Russia. And this is not a hack. This is a historical experience. The military experience of generations and our own. "The enemy will be defeated, victory will be ours!" - when did you first say the phrase? Then, when the whole world was sure that a month remained for Soviet Russia ... It would have been necessary - and they would have fought twice as long, and they would have died twice as much - in such a case, the price does not play a role - the main thing is that "The enemy will be defeated, victory will be ours!"

            How many aggressors in Russia have gotten their teeth? Let’s not right away - we needed time for a sweep ... Let it be in huge blood - BUT BEAT ALL! So why the army, which even does not have comparable victories to Russian (The main battle of the Second World War - Iwo Jima laughing) thinks that she will be lucky, that her marines in diapers will be able to defeat us?
            1. DEfindER
              DEfindER 17 May 2016 09: 00
              0
              Quote: Zoldat_A
              So why does the army, which does not even have comparable victories with Russia (the main battle of the Second World War - Iwo Jima) think that it will be lucky that its marines in the diapers will be able to defeat us?

              We all laugh at the NATO troops while their armies are approaching our borders, just as at one time they laughed at Hitler while his army was approaching our borders. Just compare the numbers of NATO armies and their armaments, with our army, we will not even take into account the quality of equipment is a separate conversation. NATO can donate 1000 aircraft, but in the end it will break through our air defense, and then everything will be very sad, either go to mutual nuclear destruction or suffer huge losses and fight like in the Second World War. As a result, I am sure of our victory, of course, but do we need such a victory?
      2. Observer2014
        Observer2014 16 May 2016 10: 00
        +5
        Wend Yes, Ukraine will participate in this war. This is the strongest army in Europe. They will tear us apart. like tuzik heating pad

        In the event of a war with Russia, the Ukrainian army is given the role of punishers, policemen. So do not twist it but you need to deal with Galicia. And work ahead of the curve.
        1. demo
          demo 16 May 2016 11: 39
          +3
          Right. The Galician UB.lyudkov has a wealth of experience with their ancestors.
        2. Zoldat_A
          Zoldat_A 16 May 2016 14: 35
          +3
          Quote: Observer2014
          The Ukrainian army in the event of a war with Russia punishers, policemen.So do not twist twist and Galicia need to do.

          In order to let the punishers and create the police, the territory still needs to be occupied. I don’t think anyone will be able to reach the Volga again. The time is different, the weapon is different ....

          And about the vulnerability of the American spear ... But what's the difference - one battalion will be there or ten? I repeat - WEAPONS SOMETHING is different ... It was not in vain that the GDP yesterday spoke on TV, something long and foggy-diplomatic - I don’t know how, but the point is - place whoever you want and wherever you want, just know that you will burn in a nuclear fire along with those placed .... Painfully, Michael Bim-Bom in the evening at Solovyov's was indignant: "And what about nuclear, then? We cho? We are nicho ...."

          Golden words of GDP - "An adequate response to inappropriate actions" Let them get ready ... am
      3. Sailor
        Sailor 16 May 2016 16: 28
        +2
        With all due respect, but the irony is bad, part of this army is fired upon, and if it is well armed, it is already a force all the more so together with NATO.
      4. weksha50
        weksha50 16 May 2016 18: 44
        0
        Quote: Wend
        Yes, Ukraine will participate in this war. the strongest army in Europe.


        Not Europe, but the continent ... So said Zarathustra ... pah, Potroshenko ...

        Only which continent - neither he, nor we, nor Europe knows ...
    2. Finches
      Finches 16 May 2016 09: 39
      +27
      We already heard something similar (not verbatim) -"I am concentrating divisions on the border with the USSR only to attack England ...!"
      1. Polite Moose
        Polite Moose 16 May 2016 09: 51
        +12
        Quote: Finches
        Something like this, blurring of the eyes, has already happened - "I am concentrating divisions on the border with the USSR for an attack on England ...!"


        Eugene! hi
        In my humble opinion, the scale of the personality of modern "concentrators" is somewhat small. But, nevertheless, there must be an answer from our side.
        1. Finches
          Finches 16 May 2016 09: 56
          +3
          Alexander!

          He was the same at the beginning of a poor and hungry, novice artist who was picking daubs on the streets of Vienna, about which no one had a clue ... hi
          1. Polite Moose
            Polite Moose 16 May 2016 10: 32
            +2
            Quote: Finches
            He was the same at the beginning of a poor and hungry, novice artist who was picking daubs on the streets of Vienna, about which no one had a clue ...


            Present times had much more than Togo. Achievements are not very good. But, I agree, all creeps cannot be ignored in any case. hi
          2. Zoldat_A
            Zoldat_A 16 May 2016 14: 40
            +3
            Quote: Finches
            He was the same at the beginning of a poor and hungry, novice artist who was picking daubs on the streets of Vienna, about which no one had a clue ... hi

            By the way, my personal opinion is that if he had remained an artist, it would not have been the second, since the fifth time, he would have entered the Vienna Academy and could have become, of course, not great and not outstanding, but just a good artist - the makings were ... But he became what has become ....
      2. DMB_95
        DMB_95 16 May 2016 09: 57
        +1
        Quote: Finches
        We already heard something similar (not verbatim) -"I am concentrating divisions on the border with the USSR only to attack England ...!"

        Yes, the situation itself is similar. Only that time the Wehrmacht soldiers were the "spear point". Cruel, experienced, skillful fanatical beasts. And NATO soldiers do not pull at the "spear point". They do not know what a "total war" for survival is and cannot fight to the death. We know and we can.
        1. Finches
          Finches 16 May 2016 10: 11
          +2
          I can’t answer you reasonably on a public website, the only thing I want to say is do not underestimate the enemy! And we need time to continue the focused work that the state began in 2014 to strengthen the western borders and further modernize the army, bringing it in high-quality and quantitative composition to the maximum combat readiness based on modern realities and taking into account the various conditions of an extended European theater of operations (since the western direction is again becoming the most dangerous)!
          1. Polite Moose
            Polite Moose 16 May 2016 10: 53
            +2
            Quote: Finches
            And we need time to continue the focused work that the state began in 2014


            Yes. It would be 5 years earlier to begin to build muscle at the current pace, now the neighbors would not even dare to bark.
            1. Finches
              Finches 16 May 2016 11: 29
              0
              Well no! They bark in life, moreover, all the time during the break, making conflicting statements - "Eastern barbarians will enslave us!"then "Russia is a bunch of rotten potatoes!" laughing
          2. DMB_95
            DMB_95 16 May 2016 12: 27
            +1
            Quote: Finches
            I can’t answer you reasonably on a public site, the only thing I want to say is do not underestimate the enemy!

            It is the enemy who underestimates us. I roughly represent the NATO force and understand that the "grown-up" war will cost dearly all its participants. But you will not surprise us with a lot of blood (unfortunately), but our opponents have no real idea of ​​what the War with Russia is. They fought only with weaker opponents, having calculated their likely losses in advance. You can't calculate a war with us in advance.
            1. Finches
              Finches 16 May 2016 22: 09
              0
              I'm sorry! I didn’t answer right away - I’m resting and relaxing! Do not think that an American individual is morally worse than a Russian - he just lived in different conditions and it’s nonsense for him, but for our usual business, this is our advantage, but no more ...! We need to understand what melee should not be brought ....... Here you need a mind and human wisdom, not pragmatic! But this Slavs have more wisdom than Anglo-Saxons!
              1. DMB_95
                DMB_95 17 May 2016 09: 39
                +1
                Who argues, that's right. Only Western soldiers will not fight before the cartridges run out and it will be necessary to blow themselves up with a grenade. Surrounded by numerous opponents, when there is a choice - captivity or battle until their death, they choose captivity. There are exceptions. But for our soldiers, carrying a grenade with them is almost a rule. And our soldier can get out to full height with a machine gun towards the column of Georgian troops. They are not.
      3. Alexey-74
        Alexey-74 16 May 2016 09: 59
        +1
        Yeah ... so it was. I do not think that the entire NATO bloc is so afraid of Russia and therefore gathers troops near the borders. Europe knows very well that Russia is not an aggressor and is not going to attack anyone ... then the question is, why do so many troops be pulled closer to the border ...
      4. Altona
        Altona 16 May 2016 11: 05
        +3
        Quote: Finches
        We have already heard something like this (not literally) - "I am concentrating divisions on the border with the USSR only in order to attack England ...!"

        --------------------
        Well, here in the article we are talking about five (!!!) thousand "spearmen". With such forces, "attacking" Russia is somehow imprudent, to put it mildly. As one comrade put it on Twitter, "It's dumb to attack Russia with five thousand soldiers." laughing
    3. Red_Hamer
      Red_Hamer 16 May 2016 10: 22
      0
      Yeah, also the planes stuffed with reconnaissance equipment, over the Baltic near our military bases, are also not against us, but against the "Iranian threat"! request
    4. Stalker.1977
      Stalker.1977 16 May 2016 10: 30
      0
      Interesting, well, let a couple of the three battalions throw up, but if you look at the wiki, the number of troops in the Western military district becomes just ridiculous, approximately compares like a cockroach with a slipper!)))
    5. Bath
      Bath 16 May 2016 12: 42
      0
      Who calms whom? Are they us or are we ourselves? In the 40s, too, Europeans gathered abroad to attack Iran
      1. Thunderbolt
        Thunderbolt 16 May 2016 15: 24
        0
        It would be very nice to supplement such an article with a map with the alignment of forces in the region. We and the Belarusians are red, the rest are blue as usual. And the second map is how the balance of forces should change after the planned transfer of American battalions, the strengthening of Poland and the Baltic states, oh Finns and Swedes should not forget in the light of the latest announcements of their preziks about NATO membership. The missile defense echelon on land and at sea, an increase in strike capabilities, because NATO not only "pushes" troops and equipment to our border, but also pulls the second echelons closer to Russia Then you can clearly see: these are the movements of "Anaconda" or political PR and provocation.
  2. Yak-3P
    Yak-3P 16 May 2016 09: 43
    0
    right now, not the 41st .. apparently everything is from far away .. and not even the cassettes will fly but the special warheads .. no one will spare anyone ..
    1. Finches
      Finches 16 May 2016 09: 49
      +5
      I'm glad that you have such confidence, but it was the same already - "And on the enemy's land, we will defeat the enemy with a little blood, a mighty blow!"
      1. Yak-3P
        Yak-3P 16 May 2016 09: 54
        0
        Well, judging by how many nukes we got (54 officially) only in the 15th year, then probably and most likely everything will be tough ..
  3. Observer2014
    Observer2014 16 May 2016 09: 43
    +8
    "Media: the" spearhead "of NATO forces being created in Eastern Europe will be powerless in the event of a conflict with the Russian Federation"
    Yesterday I watched "an evening with Vladimir Solovyov". We discussed ABM in Europe. I’m just out of this American Macle’s. Logic! “It's just business. And you evil Russians do not understand us. Our ABM is not against you." thrashes.
    Any NATO group of forces near our borders is the target for tactical nuclear weapons of Russia! There is no need to harbor hope. Our supreme leader has already voiced it. What if we understand that a fight is not inevitable, we will hit first.
    1. Uncle lee
      Uncle lee 16 May 2016 09: 51
      +4
      This Michael was still babbling that this missile defense system is so dead, only for the sake of being established ....
    2. gray smeet
      gray smeet 16 May 2016 09: 52
      +2
      Quote: Observer2014
      "
      I'm from the American of this Macle just in touch.


      From Michael, not only are you out, but the Americans themselves ...
      1. BARKAS
        BARKAS 16 May 2016 10: 00
        0
        Michael is right all the world wars since the first is just a business for them, weakening and eliminating competitors and banal gain!
      2. 33 Watcher
        33 Watcher 16 May 2016 10: 58
        0
        Quote: gray smeet
        Quote: Observer2014
        "
        I'm from the American of this Macle just in touch.


        From Michael, not only are you out, but the Americans themselves ...

        Aha yes Salesman, iron door dealer damn ..! laughing
    3. DMB_95
      DMB_95 16 May 2016 10: 07
      0
      Quote: Observer2014

      Any NATO group of forces near our borders is the target for tactical nuclear weapons of Russia! There is no need to harbor hope. Our supreme leader has already voiced it. What if we understand that a fight is not inevitable, we will hit first.

      Even striking the second, we will kill them. They will not have time to celebrate.
    4. Polite Moose
      Polite Moose 16 May 2016 10: 21
      +5
      Quote: Observer2014
      Yesterday I watched "an evening with Vladimir Solovyov". They discussed missile defense in Europe. I’m just out of this American Macle’s. That's logic! "


      Sergei! My regards!
      I also watched Solovyov yesterday, and once again came to the conclusion that all these talk shows are nothing more than a performance for ordinary people, in which all the roles are clearly described. Michael pretends to be cunning ... oh amer, a kind of hidden enemy, deceitful and cynical-pragmatic. Zlobin poses as a condescending liberal-half-American. It is the same with Ukrainians. All in the trash stoned and svidomye. But the ratings of the channels are raised by their "sharp" discussions. The opinions of 2-3-4 people are constantly broadcast, both from our side and from the opposite side. And the same thing all the time. I very much doubt that Michael's opinion coincides with that of even 30% of Americans in Russia. And with Solovyov, all America speaks through his lips.
      I would very much like to hear the opinions of other (only sane) American, European and Ukrainian leaders. But, you see, there are few places to eat. And the "comrades" sit at the trough tightly. Strangers don't go there.
      This is my opinion about all our political talk shows. I do not impose it on anyone.
      1. Winnie76
        Winnie76 16 May 2016 10: 39
        +2
        Quote: Polite Elk
        I would really like to hear the opinions of other (only sane) American, European and Ukrainian figures.

        Look Khokhlov TV, Shustrik the same. Do you find many sane there?
        1. Finches
          Finches 16 May 2016 10: 47
          +2
          Television for the masses is entertaining (of bread and circuses), which would distract people from pressing problems, and they are not especially needed there! We need clowns and hypocrites! laughing
        2. Polite Moose
          Polite Moose 16 May 2016 10: 57
          0
          Quote: Winnie76
          Do you find many sane there?


          So here I am about the same. We watch the same clowns every day. And Ukrainians feed the same crumb.
      2. 1536
        1536 16 May 2016 11: 17
        +2
        I totally agree. It seems that all these "talk shows" are replacing the well-known magazine "Ogonyok" or "Arguments and Facts" of the times of "perestroika" and "acceleration" today, when certain postulates, patterns, expressions and demeanor were imposed on society from the pages of these publications. who, after a short while, played a cruel joke with him.
  4. Kent0001
    Kent0001 16 May 2016 09: 46
    +1
    I have already written many times here that the deployed NATO forces in Europe (and especially in the Baltic states) are simply not blowing out of the parks, not all of course, but the majority. Dude correctly said that they will be utilized in their bulk before they can start fighting. NATO strategists in Europe know this thesis, so I think there will be more show-offs than things. The Ottomans can sign a provocation again ...
  5. yushch
    yushch 16 May 2016 09: 47
    +6
    To contain Russia, deploy 4 battalions. Battalion, CARL !!! What kind of a fool is it to talk about such insignificant units for a war with Russia ?!
    It's a shame yes.
    1. Yak-3P
      Yak-3P 16 May 2016 09: 50
      +2
      so they send about 10 years .. for 4 aircraft. for 5 tanks .. for 200 people ... 4 baht ... there are already 5 thousand with means of amplification gathered ..
    2. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 16 May 2016 09: 54
      +5
      "to be a fool to talk about such insignificant units for the war with Russia?!" ////

      They are not for war. And for a symbolic presence. To make it clear that
      a possible war is not with Estonia or Lithuania, but with NATO.

      As a peacekeeping contingent of Russia in South Ossetia. He could not
      deal with the Georgian army, but when the Georgians attacked him -
      they attacked Russia. And dealt with the Russian army.
      1. Yak-3P
        Yak-3P 16 May 2016 10: 05
        -7
        hamlo tram..Your photo is a half-wit
      2. Yak-3P
        Yak-3P 16 May 2016 10: 13
        0
        oh sorry .. updated .. miss the comment ... in rhyme gee .. but the photo repeat
      3. yushch
        yushch 16 May 2016 12: 17
        +1
        Quote: voyaka uh
        "to be a fool to talk about such insignificant units for the war with Russia?!" ////

        They are not for war. And for a symbolic presence. To make it clear that
        a possible war is not with Estonia or Lithuania, but with NATO.

        As a peacekeeping contingent of Russia in South Ossetia. He could not
        deal with the Georgian army, but when the Georgians attacked him -
        they attacked Russia. And dealt with the Russian army.


        But agree that this is not serious? Our peacekeeping contingent was located in South Ossetia all the same not as bait for the Georgian army, but to perform direct functions based on its name, and these units are used as a box provoking a passer-by for the subsequent inclusion in the business of the main gopniks.
      4. weksha50
        weksha50 16 May 2016 19: 06
        0
        Quote: voyaka uh
        As a peacekeeping contingent of Russia in South Ossetia.



        Hmm ... Put a plus, but I want to say that a somewhat incorrect comparison ...

        South Ossetia is a fragment of the USSR, like Georgia ... And their problems are close to us not only by borders ...
        Their problems affect us too ...

        And where is the USA and the Baltic states ??? And how do the problems of the Baltic countries (and nonexistent, by and large, Russia do not need them spiritually) affect the interests of the United States, which not only do not border the Baltic states, but are many thousands of kilometers away from it?

        If you say why Russia climbs into Syria (also located quite far from its borders), then we can say that Russia, the USSR, and Russia have rather long ties, relations and cooperation ...

        The only thing you are right about is that - if there was at least one NATO soldier in the Baltic states, then with a (predictable, supposedly) attack by Russia, it will already be possible to connect the entire NATO unit to protect this soldier ...

        But, you see, this is ridiculous ... Or, on the contrary, it is not even ridiculous ...
      5. Finches
        Finches 16 May 2016 21: 48
        0
        It’s good to be smart while sitting in Israel!

        "Bear Shifman is brainy
        - He has foresight.
        “What do we see,” he says, “besides television?
        You look at the competition in Sopot
        - And swallow the dust
        And whoever gets into Israel is allowed! "
        laughing
  6. avvg
    avvg 16 May 2016 09: 49
    +2
    The NATO forces in Eastern Europe, in my opinion, will constantly create provocations along the border of Russia, and we will have to react, this will ultimately lead to no good.
  7. Yak-15
    Yak-15 16 May 2016 09: 49
    +2
    And who is there in this spearhead? Those who wear thongs and diapers? Those who, in a legal manner, have "rooms of psychological relief", to put it simply, where "warriors" - pederasts openly relieve their sexual needs, and this can also occur between a soldier and an officer, love, as evil is known, will fall in love with a goat. These are those who, at -8 degrees, not only do not fight, but also do not conduct exercises? Yes, a sharp point, in a word. It's just that this edge hasn't been worn out in the hands of others for a long time.
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 16 May 2016 10: 42
      -6
      Have you ever read about the armies of the Ancient World?
      The Romans, Greeks, Carthaginians, homosexuality in the army was completely
      legalized - there were such then - what to do? - "cultural traditions".
      All soldiers were bisexual (modern language).
      And this did not affect the combat effectiveness of the armies. All these heroes
      Hannibal, 300 Spartans - alas! sad - fucked their colleagues.
      1. Poppy
        Poppy 16 May 2016 10: 55
        +3
        so it was real combat p..sy
      2. DMB_95
        DMB_95 16 May 2016 12: 39
        +3
        Quote: voyaka uh
        All these heroes
        Hannibal, 300 Spartans - alas! sad - fucked their colleagues.

        But we are not. Do you think this is a flaw?
  8. Uncle lee
    Uncle lee 16 May 2016 09: 49
    +4
    NATO will not be able to deploy full-fledged forces on its eastern borders - I am so upset, I can’t even eat! request
  9. Tujh
    Tujh 16 May 2016 09: 51
    +2
    Hybrid threats, as I understand it, are an analogue of the color revolutions in which the West has so succeeded.
  10. VP
    VP 16 May 2016 09: 53
    0
    Already four battalions is severe, it radically changes the whole picture, this military force is capable of conducting operations on a front-line scale, not otherwise.
    1. W1975
      W1975 16 May 2016 11: 15
      0
      Battalion to the battalion discord, there the number can reach the size of our brigade
      1. VP
        VP 16 May 2016 11: 35
        0
        From what we were taught, I remember that the U.S. motorbike battalion was about 900 people. Well, maybe some reinforcement units will be added, plus additional rear units for widows to the security platoon, signalmen and repair platoon, well, one and a half thousand.
        What can they decide?
  11. scrap123
    scrap123 16 May 2016 09: 53
    +3
    but it’s not time for us to introduce countermeasures, let’s say we block all fuel resources by the so-called partner ...
    1. VP
      VP 16 May 2016 10: 58
      0
      I mean to leave the market by giving it to others?
  12. asiat_61
    asiat_61 16 May 2016 09: 54
    +3
    Four battalions, it’s just a dust in the eye. Actually, construction of headquarters, communication centers, barracks (possibly used by the Soviet, not everything is probably broken) of supply bases. In general, there is a construction of infrastructure, and sheep can always be caught up.
  13. mpzss
    mpzss 16 May 2016 10: 02
    +4
    I don’t think that NATO will fight with us, with Russia, they are not fools there either, and they know that EVERYONE, especially the geyrope, will fly in case of war.
    But all this "seething" is similar to the pre-war one, there was also a "captive" mood, we can defeat everyone on foreign territory, I understand that now and the time is different and people are in power, but do not underestimate the potential enemy! let's respect his weapon! I understand that the states impose their will on the geyrope, that all the bucks are decided here, but after all, the 4th battalion is also a force, albeit not as big as Hitler's, but still!
    can minus, but this is my opinion.
    1. Yak-3P
      Yak-3P 16 May 2016 10: 11
      0
      I agree with you .. and a company that has passed fire with reinforcements is a major problem even for a division without experience ..
  14. Dmitry Potapov
    Dmitry Potapov 16 May 2016 10: 05
    0
    Everyone is pushing, pushing and pushing. As soon as the abscess bursts, they wait until they will cough up blood.
  15. cap
    cap 16 May 2016 10: 06
    0
    “Because of this vulnerability, NATO intends to increase its contingent on the eastern frontiers,” the article says. - The Alliance plans to deploy four battalions near the borders with Russia: in Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania and Poland. Nevertheless, the alliance believes that the "spear point" may be useful in countering "hybrid threats" from Russia. "

    "We will respond adequately to threats" V. Putin
    And there is something. Hinted at Iskander with "special" ammunition.
    Features of the complex
    OTRK "Iskander" was created using modern scientific, technical and design achievements in the development of operational-tactical missile systems. In terms of the implemented technical solutions, high combat effectiveness, today it is a new generation of high-precision weapons, which in their tactical and technical characteristics are superior to the existing domestic Scud-B, Tochka-U missile systems, as well as foreign analogues Lance, ATACMS, Pluton other.
    "There were dastardly steps, violation of agreements <...> sometimes even cheating, like with missile defense, when we [Russia] were told that a missile defense base was being created not against Russia, but against Iran," Zakharova said.
    She also stressed that Moscow reserves the right to retaliate in connection with the opening of a missile defense base in Romania "
    Read more at RBC:

    http://www.rbc.ru/rbcfreenews/5737c4aa9a794774ff09bba0
  16. Denis DV
    Denis DV 16 May 2016 10: 12
    +1
    Euro-neighbors mold their belongings on the anvil laughing They want to see how it will look under a supersonic hammer? request
    1. Yak-3P
      Yak-3P 16 May 2016 10: 17
      0
      this will not be spent on them .. yes scanders poplars .. sow
  17. RUSIVAN
    RUSIVAN 16 May 2016 10: 25
    +3
    Mass media: the "edge" of NATO forces being created in Eastern Europe will be powerless in the event of a conflict with the Russian Federation
    How do they want war, only the sick one dreams of it, and most importantly does everything so that this conflict is possibly the largest and most destructive, it happens that for the creatures there is neither blood, nor tears, nor pain for the loss of loved ones, but they want it so to fight, thinking that everything will go like in computer games where they are saved with the click of a button ...
  18. Deniosf
    Deniosf 16 May 2016 10: 38
    0
    Quote: Wend
    Yes, Ukraine will participate in this war. This is the strongest army in Europe. They will tear us apart. like tuzik heating pad laughing

    According to the pig, he already stopped us laughing
  19. dsm100
    dsm100 16 May 2016 10: 39
    +2
    Here Americans with their friends are used to defeating the weak ... We are not Libya and Iraq. Let us give heat, even as we give.
  20. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 16 May 2016 10: 59
    +1
    "They will be defeated before they even prepare for battle."

    Then a logical question arises: what the hell are you (Americans) doing all this and rustling at our borders? Tickle your nerves? And strained every year increases more and more.
  21. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 16 May 2016 10: 59
    0
    This is not a spear point, but a mosquito sting. Break it off right away. But they are not suicides, in fact.
  22. Romin
    Romin 16 May 2016 11: 00
    +1
    As always, we suffer from this incurable disease: We exaggerate our capabilities and reduce the capabilities of our subscribers ...
    Some kind of stupid not understanding of reality and the attributed, fictitious superiority of our military man over any other military man.
    Dear, in addition to the Airborne Forces, Special Forces and Marines, you still know the kind of troops?
    Not that separate contingent that took Crimea, but the remaining largest part of the RF Armed Forces.
    When was the last time you were in the disposition of a "private" motorized rifle regiment manned by conscripts from 18-20 years old?
    I confess a patriot, but I'm not going to be so divorced from reality. Or that we now have a fashion for the dill and cyborgs!
    If someone is too lazy to call in to the "privates", and not the exhibition motorized riflemen, then look on the Internet for fresh photos of conscripts and their logistical support, as well as infrastructure.
    And not from parades and tv screens about the warrior outfit (by the way, how many sets are there in the army?)
    All this sadly ends with a lot of blood for us.
    And about the superiority of one race over another, this is probably to the Natsik, with all that it implies.
    And as a healthy person, I believe in numbers and statistics.
    And the statistics of losses for the last serious collision with a bloc such as NATO (Nazi Germany) is known to all.
    And about hats, by the way, there was also a story there, as we will throw everyone ...
    Now compare the strength of the sides and weapons. And he is not in our favor.
    So the Russians will come to a rally in Latvia or Estonia and throw one of these battalions to suppress, what will we declare war on? We will not announce, the Russian Foreign Ministry will express concern. Moreover, they do not hide their goals, to counter in hybrid operations and try the throne.
    Sorry, for a tub of cold water, but illusions are the path to defeat
  23. weksha50
    weksha50 16 May 2016 11: 04
    +3
    "However, NATO believes that this is the" edge " will be very vulnerable "due to the strengthening of Russian troops in the Kaliningrad region». The deployed forces, according to the author, “will be defeated before they even prepare for battle».
    “Russia has both land-based and sea-based anti-aircraft and anti-ship complexes, as well as combat aircraft in the Kaliningrad region and other regions. These accumulations of Russian forces create problems that we fully understand and take into account when planning "" ...

    I don’t like this misinformation of foreign media ... Russia is stronger than the NATO bloc here and there.
    This is not true, and we all know that. We are not stronger, now we just can not give offense ... So far ...

    And about the Kaliningrad region and combat units on its territory ... The stick is about two ends, and they don’t mention one end ...
    And many forum users often say that our troops will once capture or destroy the Baltic countries along with Poland ...

    But do not forget that the Kaliningrad region, being separated from the main territory, is small in area, completely surrounded by the enemy and also shoots through ... Civilians, the military there are on the bridgehead, and in case of a turmoil they are most likely to die first high compared to the rest ...

    There is no need to listen to these "praises" ... They only justify once again the additional deployment of NATO forces near our borders ...
  24. Dwarfik
    Dwarfik 16 May 2016 11: 18
    0
    Quote: Romin
    As always, we suffer from this incurable disease: We exaggerate our capabilities and reduce the capabilities of our subscribers ...
    Some kind of stupid not understanding of reality and the attributed, fictitious superiority of our military man over any other military man.
    Dear, in addition to the Airborne Forces, Special Forces and Marines, you still know the kind of troops?
    Not that separate contingent that took Crimea, but the remaining largest part of the RF Armed Forces.
    When was the last time you were in the disposition of a "private" motorized rifle regiment manned by conscripts from 18-20 years old?
    I confess a patriot, but I'm not going to be so divorced from reality. Or that we now have a fashion for the dill and cyborgs!
    If someone is too lazy to call in to the "privates", and not the exhibition motorized riflemen, then look on the Internet for fresh photos of conscripts and their logistical support, as well as infrastructure.
    And not from parades and tv screens about the warrior outfit (by the way, how many sets are there in the army?)
    All this sadly ends with a lot of blood for us.
    And about the superiority of one race over another, this is probably to the Natsik, with all that it implies.
    And as a healthy person, I believe in numbers and statistics.
    And the statistics of losses for the last serious collision with a bloc such as NATO (Nazi Germany) is known to all.
    And about hats, by the way, there was also a story there, as we will throw everyone ...
    Now compare the strength of the sides and weapons. And he is not in our favor.
    So the Russians will come to a rally in Latvia or Estonia and throw one of these battalions to suppress, what will we declare war on? We will not announce, the Russian Foreign Ministry will express concern. Moreover, they do not hide their goals, to counter in hybrid operations and try the throne.
    Sorry, for a tub of cold water, but illusions are the path to defeat

    Is there any information about the software for the "privates"? Whoever you do not ask, then from demobilization, so it seems like the army is rising, and then bam and everything is not so. Or is it all gone? In this war, numbers no longer play a key role.
    1. Romin
      Romin 16 May 2016 12: 48
      0
      I had a tour here along the "military ring" around St. Petersburg with a stopover in parts and "towns" with a visit to the "park".
      Next time I’ll take a picture for the facts. Infrastructure at the 1995-2000x level (to be honest, scribe ...)
      By standard equipment, Akma and Bronik, there are no new samples. According to the technique of bmpesh 3e (old) armored personnel carriers 80ki (old), but all tinted. The preparation methods have not changed at all at the training ground. Sorry for the ammo! Units fired from RPGs.
      And since it’s usually ... everyday life;)
  25. 31rus2
    31rus2 16 May 2016 11: 18
    +1
    Dear, you do not need to be naive the very wording "the tip of NATO", quite a formidable force and military-technical potential fully meets modern and mobilization requirements, a powerful fleet, an air force group, you cannot win here with slogans alone, you need to prepare, there will be no be ready, and not as always did not have time, did not finish, did not overlook
  26. Stinger
    Stinger 16 May 2016 11: 22
    0
    Quote: Observer 33
    They are really like children, here is the feeling that development stopped at 10-12 years old,

    This is confirmed by the fact that their favorite films are for children. Like James Bond.
  27. Kamarada
    Kamarada 16 May 2016 11: 38
    0
    I think that these hyenas are not going to attack Kaliningrad with 5 thousand. But enough for provocation.
  28. Putnik_16
    Putnik_16 16 May 2016 12: 04
    +1
    Do not pop your NATO snout to OUR borders and you will
    alive and well !!! am drinks
  29. Lelek
    Lelek 16 May 2016 12: 28
    +2
    However, NATO believes that this "edge" will be very vulnerable "because of the strengthening of the Russian troops in the Kaliningrad region." The deployed forces, according to the author, "will be defeated before they are ready for battle."

    For every "nut" there is a "bolt" with a reverse thread. That's right - Russia knows how to fight, has been taught by centuries of confrontation, and now - not by number, but by skill.
  30. pts-m
    pts-m 16 May 2016 12: 55
    0
    Running on a field with a rake seems not far off. History does not teach anything and all because of Russian peace. It’s harder and harder to be with “partners”.
  31. ILIA
    ILIA 16 May 2016 13: 31
    0
    Finishing up .... maybe proactive to update someone?
  32. sieras
    sieras 16 May 2016 15: 40
    0
    that's how you read all this news and understand. After all, they are really preparing to fight. since anti-Russian hysteria will not pass. there are no conditions for stress relief. I think we need to openly prepare the population and speak openly "in connection with the aggression, we do this and that."