Foreign Ministry spokesman: media reports on the exchange of the Kuril Islands to the aid of Japan - "complete nonsense."

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Appeared in the press after the meeting in Sochi, Vladimir Putin and Shinzo Abe publications that Moscow is going to transfer the Kuril Islands to Japan in exchange for economic assistance - "complete nonsense" and primitivism, curled TASS unnamed representative of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation.



“Everything that is written there is complete nonsense. Nothing could be further from reality. To think that in our dialogue with Japan we are talking about the “sale” or transfer of the Kuril Islands in exchange for economic assistance, and to represent this for the “new approach” that Prime Minister of Japan Shinzo Abe said is primitive, ”
stressed the source.

“This is a primitive view of what serious powers are talking about when discussing complex issues,” he added.

“Primitive thinking and nonsense,” concluded the Foreign Ministry spokesman.

Recall that the leaders of the Russian Federation and Japan held talks on May 6. The parties "agreed on an intensive political dialogue, confirmed their focus on the development of trade, economic and investment ties, and made proposals on a number of projects." The theme of the peace treaty between the states was not left without attention either.
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  1. +11
    14 May 2016 08: 28
    “Primitive thinking and delirium,” the representative of the Foreign Ministry concluded. and there’s nothing to add.
    1. +8
      14 May 2016 08: 33
      Quote: azbukin77
      Primitive thinking and delirium

      Once again for Kabardin.
      1. +10
        14 May 2016 08: 58
        It's time for the "returners" of the islands and peninsulas to unite laughing
        1. +8
          14 May 2016 09: 10
          Quote: Thrall
          It's time for the "returners" of the islands and peninsulas to unite

          M-yes ... Collect all in one heap and on the ship ...
          1. +1
            14 May 2016 22: 18
            large steamer. and to a large ship, as you know, a large torpedo!
        2. +2
          14 May 2016 11: 58
          Quote...
          It's time for the "returners" of the islands and peninsulas to unite

          Here just now Potroshenko was planning to turn the peninsula (Crimea) into an island. So he completely mows under the Japanese ... hi
          1. +1
            14 May 2016 21: 37
            Quote: Serg 122
            Quote...
            It's time for the "returners" of the islands and peninsulas to unite

            Here just now Potroshenko was planning to turn the peninsula (Crimea) into an island. So he completely mows under the Japanese ... hi

            THOSE. occupied the peninsula, and give the whole island? wassat
    2. +5
      14 May 2016 08: 36
      The topic of a peace treaty between states did not go unnoticed.

      Japs as they imagine, the return of the Kuril Islands? We are at war with Japan - a peace treaty has not yet been signed. To give up the islands at such a time is to admit defeat. First, let them sign a peace treaty, and then you can show them a three-finger figure, not the islands.
      1. +14
        14 May 2016 09: 01
        Yes, if there is a peace treaty with the Japs - to hell with them and not the islands. These islands are of great strategic importance, will cost. Almost every Japanese island has an American military base. I think that our bases do not need these bases. And in general, we lost the war, we received indemnity. At one time in the Russo-Japanese War in 1904, the tsarist government lost and the Japs grabbed half of Sakhalin and almost all of the Kuril Islands. Stalin then took his own, our Russian, which belonged to us, well, and seized the four southern islands. Under international law - this is legal !.
      2. +18
        14 May 2016 09: 09
        Quote: СРЦ П-15
        To give up the islands at such a time is to admit defeat.

        This is our fifth column, through their media ... These screams in the media are clearly provocative and are intended for Putin (they will pour, receive grants and calm down again) The most interesting is how they all raised a howl at once in chorus!
        It's time to cleanse the country!
    3. +16
      14 May 2016 09: 12
      Yes, everything is just like 5 kopecks, Japanese, like Petruha Potroshenko, if Petruha doesn’t talk about Crimea, they will immediately put a lyulee in him, and they’ll make hara-kiri to the Japanese in the same way, if he doesn’t spoil the northern territories, to hell with him and Petruha and squint .
      1. jjj
        +2
        14 May 2016 10: 03
        The Japanese feel that sakura will not bloom once. This is what motivates them of various kinds of movements. And we give them a cookie in the form of the opportunity to help us get hydrocarbons. And we will wait. We have nowhere to rush
    4. +9
      14 May 2016 10: 03
      Quote: azbukin77
      “Primitive thinking and nonsense,” concluded the Foreign Ministry spokesman. and nothing to add.

      Do you believe? I would believe if the journalist in front of the cameras said: "There will be no handover of the islands. There will be no talks on the islands. The topic of the islands is not discussed. From now on and forever."

      It’s definitely worth adding to this there is nothing...
      1. 0
        14 May 2016 10: 48
        Quote: Zoldat_A
        Do you believe? I would have believed it if VVP in front of the cameras said to the journalist: "There will be no transfer of the islands. There will be no talks on the islands. The topic of the islands is not discussed. From now on and forever."

        There would definitely be nothing to add to this ....


        So a narrow-minded, irresponsible person can answer. But not the President of the state! The president is a diplomat! And diplomacy does not mean "chopping off the shoulder." Politics is a delicate matter, "thinner" than the East! wink
        1. +5
          14 May 2016 10: 59
          Quote: Homo
          Quote: Zoldat_A
          Do you believe? I would have believed it if VVP in front of the cameras said to the journalist: "There will be no transfer of the islands. There will be no talks on the islands. The topic of the islands is not discussed. From now on and forever."

          There would definitely be nothing to add to this ....


          This may be answered by a narrow-minded, irresponsible person. But not the President of the state! The president is a diplomat! And diplomacy does not mean "chopping off the shoulder." Politics is a delicate matter, "thinner" than the East! wink

          So I'm far-fetched and irresponsible ... And in fact - for me, a blow and a shot are a more powerful argument than talking in front of cameras ....

          But only if SO not to say it, not me - the age is not the same - my students and students of my students will sooner or later have yupps with machine guns in their hands to explain whose islands in the sea ....
    5. +1
      14 May 2016 13: 14
      The average people think in monosyllabic understandings. Even if they are given a transcript of the negotiations, they will have to explain for a long time what they talked about.
      The Japanese seem to be frightened by our rapprochement with the PRC and they are longing for the fact that ours began to rebuild the southern Kuril Islands and rebuild military facilities. Plus, the Sea of ​​Okhotsk is recognized as the internal sea of ​​the Russian Federation and now their fishermen will not be able to break into it.
      Plus, the Japanese are very interested in resources and energy, and we are interested in the rise of our Far East. FOR THE PEOPLE TO GO THERE TO GO TO CREATE AN INDUSTRY - ANYTHING. And therefore, our only favor is that the Japanese and Chinese invest in the economy of the Far East. It doesn’t matter what they build - even if they produce a warm condom, they create jobs in the Far East. hi
  2. -1
    14 May 2016 08: 31
    I hope so. And the Japanese have nowhere to go ...
    1. +3
      14 May 2016 08: 35
      Quote: mamont5
      I hope so.

      Are you hoping ??? You think our Foreign Ministry is deceiving you laughing
      Do not read pseudo-experts, they are not experts!
      1. +1
        14 May 2016 08: 42
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Are you hoping?

        Are you Sasha? wink
        In short: urgently change your three-ruble note in Vladivostok to one-room on Shikotan Yes. And next year you will live in Japan! good
        Hello Japanese! drinks
        1. +3
          14 May 2016 08: 46
          Quote: Angry Guerrilla
          Are you Sasha?

          I don’t want to go to Japan, there’s a lot of Down primitive, like the Amers. Our girls are better than the Japanese geisha.
          What the hell No.
          1. 0
            14 May 2016 11: 28
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            I don’t want to go to Japan, there’s a lot of Down primitive, like the Amers. Our girls are better than the Japanese geisha.

            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            What the hell

            Each nation considers its women to be the most, so there is no need to virtually insult other nations and their traditions - this is mean and cowardly at least.
          2. -1
            14 May 2016 15: 01
            Primitive geisha caressed
            Black coral lord.
            Black hands closed
            On the neck. Japanese woman accepted death.

            The black ruler rejoices.
            The wisdom of Lavrov for centuries.
          3. 0
            14 May 2016 17: 35
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            I don’t want to go to Japan
            It is very strange to hear this from Vladivostok. Here every second dreams about it.
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            What the hell
            Oh come on. The top of amateurism is to judge the beauty of Japanese women by painted geisha. And there are beautiful girls in any country in the world.
      2. +2
        14 May 2016 09: 50
        After so many conversations, negotiations, the question has not been answered and this topic is constantly being raised, it suggests to many that the firm NO on this issue is heard only in the domestic media.
        You think our Foreign Ministry is deceiving you

        Truth, truth and never ... the whole truth.
  3. +3
    14 May 2016 08: 31
    It has already been discussed many times on this resource and not only. What Shinzo Abe "spun" upon his return to Japan is a lie. The Japanese man in the "leather glasses" promoted himself, but in fact (I carefully read what he told the Japanese media) - very much looks like Gorbachev's speech at one time. He also liked to talk a lot and absolutely nothing.
  4. +5
    14 May 2016 08: 32
    Appeared in the press after the meeting in Sochi of Vladimir Putin and Shinzo Abe that Moscow was going to transfer the Kuril Islands to Japan in exchange for economic assistance - "complete nonsense" and primitivism, said an unnamed representative of the Russian Foreign Ministry.
    But after all, someone needed to throw this "nonsense" on the pages of the media and on the Internet. To whom and why, for what purpose?
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    2. +4
      14 May 2016 09: 09
      They look at what will be the reaction in society, after they make the final decision. This is normal.
      1. +1
        14 May 2016 09: 31
        Quote: Jarilo
        They look at what will be the reaction in society.

        The Pirquet reaction?
    3. +1
      14 May 2016 09: 41
      Quote: LÄRZ
      But after all, someone needed to throw this "nonsense" on the pages of the media and on the Internet. To whom and why, for what purpose?


      Victor! hi
      It seems to me that such stuffing of information about our friendship with the Yapas and the concessions of territories is only good for us. After all, many in the world are guided by the principle that there is no smoke without fire. Suddenly, our other cunning "brothers" on the basis of similar stuffing-denials will suspect that we are changing the vector of friendship. They will begin to stir the rolls as soon as possible.
  5. +7
    14 May 2016 08: 34
    I am almost sure that the Russian leadership contains adequate people who understand that the distribution of land does not lead to good. and it’s time to put an end to the various attempts of the Japanese on Russian territory. The slaves themselves go under the American boot and still require something request
    As GDP says, you need to separate flies from cutlets. But how small children are with their snot. Yes, and with economic cooperation, you need to be careful. otherwise these oriental comrades like to splurge and always smile, and grab something with this sauce ... what
    Personally, my opinion hi
    1. +2
      14 May 2016 08: 44
      Quote: Rurikovich
      I’m almost sure that there are adequate people in the Russian leadership,

      Apparently in very small quantities
  6. +7
    14 May 2016 08: 36
    Anyone who allows the transfer of at least a centimeter of Russian land to foreigners needs to be hung on lampposts. Enough of Russia to endure all sorts of scum, such as marked by the devil Mitka Gorbachev
    1. 0
      14 May 2016 08: 53
      There are many places in Russia where a lamppost and binoculars cannot be seen. Sometimes there is no tree, the soil is stony, frozen ... (bury a lot of honor). Burn - spend resources.
      Probably easier out of the country kick in the ass. Let them stink. Or, at worst, bring everyone together and build a century - dig the Moscow-Vladivostok metro.
      1. 0
        14 May 2016 10: 00
        There are more lampposts in Russia than scum, foreign spies, pests and traitors to the Motherland, enough to outweigh all this scum. You can’t let them go, they will then be sent to Russia, as in the days of Hitler, the Hindenburg sabotage regiment ...
    2. +2
      14 May 2016 09: 15
      Quote: Phosgene
      , such as marked by the devil Mitka Gorbachev

      Mitka - the affectionate version of the name Dmitry, who has nothing to do with Mikhail hi
  7. +2
    14 May 2016 08: 39
    I didn’t even see such media reports. request Missed something ..?
    And if we are talking about ukrosi, for example, then it was not worth commenting.
  8. +5
    14 May 2016 08: 40
    The Japanese will never sign a peace treaty, the Americans will never let it be done
  9. +6
    14 May 2016 08: 41
    It's just that Abe probably has no other choice. In the absence of the necessary result of negotiations, the result .. you just have to come up with. The Ukrainian authorities constantly use such garbage, calling defeat an unprecedented victory, the collapse of the economy - an unprecedented revival, etc. Call black white and be happy. As the proverb says, it riches with thought.
    1. +1
      14 May 2016 09: 05
      And what what ... Also an option wink
  10. +2
    14 May 2016 08: 41
    They have sweaty feet in their mouth and not the Kuril Islands! Let them lick their lips on the islands with the stubbornness of a donkey! And in general, how can a country still considered an occupied country make any complaints? What does Okinawa have?
  11. -9
    14 May 2016 08: 42
    There are people in the leadership who believe that reducing the population of Russia by 20-25 mil. People for the efficiency of the economy is quite right. And here to give some islands, the more experience is the Aleutian Islands. So, in each statement, there is only a fraction statements.
    1. +3
      14 May 2016 08: 47
      Quote: loginovich
      There are people in the leadership who believe that reducing the population of Russia by 20-25 mil. People for the efficiency of the economy is quite right

      True, can you look at this guide? Or are you talking about Ukraine now, then yes I agree.
      1. +5
        14 May 2016 09: 04
        I’m talking about Chubais in this case. Our clowns are even cooler, they’ll send everyone to the cemetery, sobbing about the genocide of the Ukrainian people.
        1. 0
          14 May 2016 10: 51
          Quote: loginovich
          I'm about Chubais in this case.

          And since when is Chubais the country's leadership?
          1. 0
            14 May 2016 11: 51
            The director of a state corporation does not have leadership?
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  13. +9
    14 May 2016 08: 47
    This music will be eternal if we do not take out the battery ...
  14. +2
    14 May 2016 08: 47
    In fact, it’s just not clear what they agreed on. All some hints and understands. We would take and publish what the essence of the agreements was, what they promised, and what we promised them in the Kuril plan and there would be no speculation on this topic.
  15. +8
    14 May 2016 08: 48
    Maybe I don’t understand something, but do we really need a peace treaty than Japan? Why are they blackmailing us all the time? Are we afraid of a resumption of hostilities?
  16. +5
    14 May 2016 08: 51
    "Horseradish bloomed on Fujiyama, the Japanese cannot see the Kuril Islands"
  17. +6
    14 May 2016 08: 53
    On this occasion, I once again remembered the anecdote that Zakharova told (smart girl, how I like it!) “The famous Ukrainian politician is praying, God, help to return Crimea. And then suddenly from the sky you have already returned Crimea, now return the money!”. So the Japanese need to say something similar. Kurils - outside the negotiation field. We can bargain for Hokkaido laughing
  18. +2
    14 May 2016 08: 56
    Another stuffing of divan troops of ancient ukrov.
  19. +1
    14 May 2016 08: 57
    With such a foreign policy pursued by the GDP of that look, no matter how we grow the territories. As far as I know, military construction is in full swing in the Kuril Islands.
    1. +1
      14 May 2016 09: 08
      It is necessary to declare Hokkaido a continuation of the Kuril ridge and hint that if it continues to whine about some Northern territories there. then the Sea of ​​Okhotsk can become completely inland lol feel
  20. +2
    14 May 2016 08: 59
    It's a dark affair .. Abe is not casual in stuffing with friends !!! lol
  21. +2
    14 May 2016 09: 02
    Quote: azbukin77
    “Primitive thinking and delirium,” the representative of the Foreign Ministry concluded. and there’s nothing to add.

    Before "Marked" and EBN there were normal economic ties, without the problems of the Northern Territories and the peace treaty. But links to all the fuss that EBN and Kozyrev started. Http://www.qsec.ru/node / 3143 http://www.posprikaz.ru/2015/10/pochemu-yaponiya-s-upyortoj-nastojchivostyu-treb

    uet-sebe-yuzhnye-kurily /
    Plus, the Chinese, when demarcating the border, were going to raise the issue of the "Manchurian wedge." Damansky, compared with the "Manchurian wedge," trifles. This is a link to materials on the "Manchurian Wedge."
    http://maxpark.com/community/4109/content/2650915
  22. -1
    14 May 2016 09: 48
    [quote media reports about the exchange of the Kuril Islands to help Japan - "complete nonsense."
    Yes, Putin will not give up a meter of Russian land to anyone. We would have more such leaders. That would stand for the Russian mountain land. And if possible, they would join those who want to live with us.
  1. 0
    14 May 2016 14: 07
    Will give! For that, it’s also filling its price in the West.
  • +1
    14 May 2016 10: 07
    Appeared in the press after the meeting in Sochi of Vladimir Putin and Shinzo Abe that Moscow was going to transfer the Kuril Islands to Japan in exchange for economic assistance - "complete nonsense" and primitivism, said an unnamed representative of the Russian Foreign Ministry.

    Right! We do not trade our homeland! angry am
  • +1
    14 May 2016 10: 35
    Quote: Talker
    Quote: sherp2015
    M-yes ... Collect all in one heap and on the ship ...


    The government itself is to blame for these rumors. Negotiated - announce the results! And all - there are no gossip and speculation. And then something whispered and silent. Only common words on the air.

    And after the transfer of part of the Barents Sea to Norway and the islands to China - the confidence of the People is weakened. So there are all sorts of speculation from a lack of information. After all, good things are announced loudly and shame is hushed up.

    I completely agree. The authorities finally look at the people as if ... d..lo. Everything is discussed behind the scenes, in the news feeds some news are immediately refuted by other opposite news, the "white noise" in the media is simply deafening, "mischievous", ...
  • +1
    14 May 2016 10: 37
    In general, does anyone know a precedent for returning or giving military trophies?
    The Kuril Islands - our military trophy, especially since there is no peace treaty, what about the bidding?
  • 0
    14 May 2016 11: 12
    The Japanese, do not talk about the Kuril Islands, they live well in Russia.
  • +1
    14 May 2016 11: 49
    To give up the territory of a country without holding a referendum on this issue is a crime against the country and the people! This is so, for the future!
  • 0
    14 May 2016 13: 39
    what did the Yeltsinoids-gaydarovtsy do with us ...
  • 0
    14 May 2016 14: 33
    Quote: Talker
    The government itself is to blame for these rumors. Negotiated - announce the results! And all - there are no gossip and speculation. And then something whispered and silent. Only common words on the air.

    Quote: Cat Man Null
    - I hope you are familiar with the concept of "confidentiality"? Or, as in childhood - "I want_all_know"?

    Confidentiality is good, but Tolmach is RIGHT! Both the President and the government SHOULD act on behalf of the Russian PEOPLE. Departing to where, or receiving guests, briefly explain to the people, RUSSIAN YEAR for why these negotiations! Not some general words, say give way to the seas, debts we forgive or we give the island of Damansky. And now we are confronted with the fact-Garant went somewhere and forgave $ 10-20 billion. I can forgive my neighbor 200 rubles. This is my personal money. And this is people's money, moreover, that the Russians paid the USSR debts with interest, and we can’t return theirs. We don’t need an extensive press release. Say three words, we DO NOT GIVE ISLANDS !!! Yes hi
  • -3
    14 May 2016 14: 52
    Quote: fa2998
    Confidentiality is good, but Tolmach is RIGHT!

    - do not shout, please (an exclamation mark and caps - this is rudeness, actually)
    - I'm exactly right, Tolmach is "right", "lion" or even "elephant"
    - I just reminded my esteemed colleague (not you) that diplomatic documents (like a protocol of negotiations, for example) usually put a certain stamp. Particleboard is at least

    In connection with the above, your wish

    Quote: fa2998
    briefly explain to the people in RUSSIAN YEAR why these negotiations are!

    - no more than your girlish dreams
    - never, even under the USSR, this has not happened. Because it couldn't be. Technologically. From the word "absolutely" Yes

    I’ll not comment on other nonsense - it’s not interesting.

    PS: "in short" is written together. Something like this wink
  • 0
    14 May 2016 15: 06
    Yes corny all the Japanese want a pipe along the bottom of the sea to themselves with the Khazs, and we offer LNG current
  • +1
    14 May 2016 15: 47
    It is advisable that this article is seen by Igor Kabardin.
  • +1
    14 May 2016 18: 10
    Quote: Cat Man Null
    PS: "in short" is written together. Something like this

    You are a Connoisseur of the Russian language, sorry, not everything has been restored after a stroke. Well, thank God I don’t work as a proofreader in a printing house, I don’t have enough patience! forgiven a debt of several billion. And it is not necessary to say that such a step will lead to new trade and economic cooperation. The next facilities that Russia will build, nuclear power plants, etc., are again in debt! hi
    1. 0
      14 May 2016 20: 14
      Quote: fa2998
      I do not have the patience to watch and listen that after the next negotiations, they hang noodles for me "according to the unanimous wishes of the Russians" that some country has forgiven a debt of several billion

      - about "unanimous wishes" and "noodles" on this occasion - here you .. added a little, no? wink
      - "forgiven the debt" - the concept is very .. multifaceted, you need to look at each case separately
      - most of these "forgiven" debts are the glorious legacy of the USSR ("fraternal assistance" is the so-called. Repayment of this "loan" was never supposed to be)
      - other - I repeat - it is necessary to look at each case separately and intently
      - just like that, "from the breadth of the soul", no one forgives anything to anyone, take my word for it

      Quote: fa2998
      The next facilities that will be built by Russia, nuclear power plants, etc. - again, a loan!

      - with the only difference that this "debt" is already real, and it will be "forgiven" .. hardly Yes
      - and also with the difference that the construction of the same nuclear power plant, for example, is the binding of the "client" to maintenance, fuel ... well, and if there is a small share in the ownership of this nuclear power plant, it is also a living money ... for the energy that this nuclear power plant will be generated.

      I repeat - everything is true .. very non-linear.
  • +3
    14 May 2016 23: 53
    How much can you chew on this topic. The Kuril Islands + Ibamai - a strategic key to the Sea of ​​Okhotsk and influence throughout the Far East. This is needed for mattresses, the Japanese are vassals of the United States. Is it not clear to all of you with what voice they are jacking?

    Among other things, military construction on the Kuril Islands is planned and will increase, this is in our interests, as well as the interests of the PRC (as an ally).

    The riches of the Kuril Islands are awesome lards of money. In our intreses do not give them away.

    I hope that I clearly explained?
  • 0
    15 May 2016 08: 16
    Quote: Talker
    You all remind me of ostriches hiding their heads in the sand. This is understandable. You know less - sleep better! But I do not want to sleep.

    You forgot to highlight the “I” with additional bold, italics and underline. And it’s not quite clear how special you are.