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Media: computer crashes seem to have become a chronic F-35 disease

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The software of the newest American fighter F-35 still requires frequent reloads, reports Look with reference to the newspaper Navy Times.




“This problem once again manifested itself during test flights at Edwards Air Base. Technicians had to spend two hours troubleshooting before the plane was able to fly, ”the newspaper writes.

The article states that "during test flights, software has to be reloaded in more than 30% of cases."

“Officials, however, are trying to smooth the problem, saying that the flights are test flights to correct the flaws. However, the trouble is that the US Air Force plans to adopt the F-35 this year, ”the newspaper notes.

One of those responsible for developing the F-35, Brendan Ratigan, tried to explain the essence of the problem in a more accessible way. “The best analogy here is as if you, having turned on the computer, would simultaneously launch several programs: Word, Excel, PowerPoint and Outlook - and try to work with them. But you are having incomprehensible problems with Excel, which have to restart the entire system, ”he said.

Pilot Raven Leclaire told about the difficulties faced by the flight and technical staff when launching the fighter: “I got into the car at 10.00 in the morning, but could only fly out after two hours. First, a false message about problems with the battery was highlighted, then a failure occurred when turning on the power system. The clerk tried with all their might to prevent a full reboot of the machine, but still had to do it. After restarting, all the fighter systems finally worked fine. "

"The second launch was so clean that it is even funny," - said the pilot.

But as it turned out, the problems were not over yet. “The failure occurred with the connection of the main computer to one of the aircraft’s weapons. So the car had to be planted again in order to restart the program, ”Lecler said.
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  1. Leto
    Leto 11 May 2016 15: 04
    +12
    Oh, right now, buuuuudet ....
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      1. cniza
        cniza 11 May 2016 15: 10
        +9
        Little money, little spent yet.
        1. Maxom75
          Maxom75 11 May 2016 21: 43
          +4
          I’m afraid to imagine what will happen when the on-board computer in the air is buggy and the end of the plane? Yes, there are no words smart weapons. Apparently the next plane will become so invisible that only manufacturers and those who sign acceptance certificates will know about its existence, for the rest it will be full stealth.
          1. Aposlya
            Aposlya 12 May 2016 07: 56
            0
            “The failure occurred when the main computer was connected to one of the aircraft’s weapons. So the car had to be planted again in order to restart the program, ”Leclair said.


            It was necessary to restart the computer during the flight ... You look and the adrenaline would be added ... laughing
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      3. Seren
        Seren 11 May 2016 15: 12
        +6
        And what else can you expect from a flying iron and a child prodigy, a brainchild drank dough? Is it the T-50 business? He, by definition, will be a cut above American under-planes ... I envy you in a good, human way)))
        1. Leto
          Leto 11 May 2016 15: 18
          +33
          Quote: seren
          And what else can you expect from a flying iron and a child prodigy, a brainchild drank dough? Is it the T-50 business? He, by definition, will be a cut above American under-planes ... I envy you in a good, human way)))

          How subtle you get it! Professional!
          1. cherkas.oe
            cherkas.oe 11 May 2016 16: 25
            +5
            Quote: Leto
            How subtle you get it! Professional!

            Like a mosquito pee, but his ears still stick out. bully
            1. Armored optimist
              Armored optimist 11 May 2016 16: 35
              +1
              They say that when Melkosoft published part of the Windows code, there was a comment in one line - "Ay yes Lech! Ah yes son of a bitch!", Apparently the programmer praised himself. Maybe ours wrote something here too?
              It would be nice if the windows and backdoors were laid.
              1. Kasym
                Kasym 11 May 2016 17: 09
                +5
                In my opinion, the main problems are the Russian electronic warfare systems for amers. 5 generation aircraft. They can somehow cope with the software, but here the concept of fighting at a distance (i.e. without entering into a close, maneuverable battle) goes to hell. How to beat an enemy if the airborne missiles will not achieve goals - there is no way without melee. And in such a fight, even MiG-29 and Su-27 flight attendants can do F-35 (22). What is interesting the Americans will do? It is clear that generals and the media will circumvent and hush up this aspect, but the problem is obvious. hi
                They will start asking for money for a new plane. "Penguin" can no longer be made to fly as needed for maneuver. battle. laughing
                1. abrakadabre
                  abrakadabre 11 May 2016 20: 54
                  0
                  since "Penguin" can no longer be forced to fly as needed for a maneuver. battle.
                  "A stupid penguin timidly hides a fat body ..." wassat
                  1. Aposlya
                    Aposlya 12 May 2016 07: 57
                    0
                    Quote: abrakadabre
                    "A stupid penguin timidly hides a fat body ..."


                    But this iron is really something like a penguin ... winked
                2. BEECH 1972
                  BEECH 1972 14 May 2016 23: 49
                  0
                  Quote: Kasym
                  \\\ In my opinion, the main problems are the Russian electronic warfare systems for Amer. 5 generation aircraft. And in such a fight, even MiG-29 and Su-27 flight attendants can do F-35 (22).
                  /// With such problems, electronic warfare is not even needed, pulse EMP generators will be enough and all the much-praised NAT equipment will turn into a pile of scrap metal.
        2. Lantau
          Lantau 11 May 2016 15: 26
          +4
          Dear, and what fifth-generation aircraft is Israel developing ??? Here it will definitely be higher by THREE heads of all aircraft !!! Is not it???
          1. Seren
            Seren 11 May 2016 15: 46
            -1
            Israel is developing a pilot helmet to control the F-35 for all countries and avionics, weapons, stealth configuration of conformal fuel tanks and a double version of the F-35 for itself. I can assure you that the Israeli version of the F-35 will be better than the American.
            1. Wheel
              Wheel 11 May 2016 16: 08
              +24
              Quote: seren
              I dare to assure you that the Israeli version of the F-35 will be better than the American.

              Naturally better, because the version will be kosher. laughing
            2. Lantau
              Lantau 11 May 2016 16: 25
              +1
              That's when it will be, then we will talk about it !!!
              1. Seren
                Seren 11 May 2016 17: 43
                +1
                The first two cars will arrive later this year.
                1. Alex777
                  Alex777 11 May 2016 19: 02
                  +3
                  Quote: seren
                  The first two cars will arrive later this year.


                  So you do not have to be bored! hi
            3. cherkas.oe
              cherkas.oe 11 May 2016 16: 32
              +3
              Quote: seren
              Israel is developing a pilot helmet to control the F-35 for all countries and avionics, weapons,

              Jewish brains with amerskim do not fit together, here OS all the time and rejects heterogeneous software. As in the fable: - "When there is no agreement in comrades, their business will not go well" lol
            4. saturn.mmm
              saturn.mmm 11 May 2016 16: 33
              +10
              Quote: seren
              I dare to assure you that the Israeli version of the F-35 will be better than the American.

              It is incomprehensible that the best Israeli university in the ranking is at some 100th place, and the Americans cannot do without the Israelis, who have all the first places, why is this so?
              This is kind of the latest version.
              1. voyaka uh
                voyaka uh 11 May 2016 19: 15
                +3
                "It’s not clear, the best Israeli university in the ranking at 100 in some place, but" ///

                This discrepancy is not the first you noticed. There is a problem in some bias
                the British. The Chinese are ranking Israeli universities better: somewhere from 40 places,
                which is objective, in my opinion.
                But the military-industrial complex of the United States and Israel have been closely intertwined in the last 20 years.
                And we supply the US Army with many important components and systems. Do they sell or
                give us the latest generation of weapons with system codes and the right improvements.
            5. Winnie76
              Winnie76 11 May 2016 16: 48
              +1
              Is this the same legendary helmet for half a lem? And personal, do not let your colleague use it - let him buy himself)))))). Where the image is shaking. It can also break the neck when ejected. This is you cool "all countries" piled on. Maybe a cardboard box with a smartphone mount is better? The pilot will be more intact wink Conformal fuel tanks are no less cool. And so the low speed will drop two times.

              Straight real Jewish penguin killer turns out, conqueror of air superiority wink . Israelis, ask for better foot and mouth disease and come to terms. It’s easier to teach him how to work on the earth than to make a fighter out of a penguin
              1. voyaka uh
                voyaka uh 11 May 2016 18: 16
                +7
                "the killer penguin turns out, the conqueror of air superiority" ////

                Our penguin will replace the F-16 and will like it mainly work on the ground.
                Outdated F-15 early variations will be gradually replaced by the most wound.
                Paul Lyama for a helmet - not such a big price, if you think a little. After all, he is part of the OMS of the aircraft,
                perhaps its most important part. And a pilot’s eye replacement, the pilot doesn’t have to be
                farsighted, which until recently was an important advantage.
                1. Winnie76
                  Winnie76 11 May 2016 19: 10
                  0
                  Warrior, compare prices for F-16 and F-35. Maybe it is better to buy A-10? And the question. Doesn't Israel need air supremacy? Or you only have bearded men on the agenda. But what if there is a serious cut? How will you bomb if they will drive you through the sky?

                  About the helmet. Clearly, an important part of the OMS. Clearly, everyone has different heads. But then the majority of vision is one. Everything is fundamentally there, a helmet for a specific person. Well, it would cost 2 cents. IMHO purely commercial project. Cut money to the maximum in a monopoly.
                  1. voyaka uh
                    voyaka uh 12 May 2016 00: 38
                    +1
                    "Does Israel Need Air Superiority?" ////

                    Very necessary. And there is really a problem. Not a single 4th fighter
                    generations will not be able to ensure air supremacy against the 5th fighter
                    generations. Neither the F-15 nor the Su-35 will be able to withstand the F-22 or T-50.
                    F-35 can successfully fight off 4th generation fighters due to stealth,
                    but domination can be won only with a quantitative advantage.
                    In this case, the battles with the F-22 or T-50, he will lose.
                    Israel needs to hope that the T-50 will not be exported to our potential
                    to opponents. And with any 4th generation aircraft we can handle the combined forces of F-15 + F-35.
                    1. Operator
                      Operator 12 May 2016 01: 14
                      -4
                      Su-35С in the dry wins the battles of both the Raptor and the Penguin.

                      The first export contract with China has already been signed. They show interest in Su-35С from Asia to South America (the price bites - 50 million dollars).

                      The oil-producing Gulf countries are also eyeing the masterpiece of the Russian aircraft school, given Penguin’s devastating criticism by the highest political leadership of the United States (chairman of the Senate Armed Forces Committee).

                      And the Raptor, which almost reaches the Su-35С in its combat qualities, does not shine for anyone abroad, since it is prohibited to be exported by US law.

                      Therefore, after four years (the final lifting of sanctions from Iran), we stock up on popcorn and watch online how the Iranian Su-35С will drive Israeli Penguins tail and mane in the sky of the Middle East laughing
                      1. retardu
                        retardu 12 May 2016 03: 01
                        +2
                        Incomprehensible sofa calculations about the victory of su35. The same sofa calculations can be found on the f16net forum. And there are opposite results
                  2. voyaka uh
                    voyaka uh 12 May 2016 00: 49
                    +2
                    "A helmet for a specific person. Well, it would cost 2 kopecks. IMHO, a purely commercial project" ////

                    You are wrong about the helmet. This is the "first swallow". Maybe they'll invent better helmets
                    Israeli, I do not argue, but such a virtual helmet will become standard for military aviation
                    until she becomes completely unmanned. But then the helmet will not disappear - in them
                    operators will sit. And their price is off scale objectively. These are sophisticated technologies,
                    transforming a person into an all-seeing "cyborg" from cartoons.
                2. Seren
                  Seren 11 May 2016 19: 43
                  +2
                  Quote: voyaka uh
                  "the killer penguin turns out, the conqueror of air superiority" ////

                  Our penguin will replace the F-16 and will like it mainly work on the ground.
                  Outdated F-15 early variations will be gradually replaced by the most wound.
                  Paul Lyama for a helmet - not such a big price, if you think a little. After all, he is part of the OMS of the aircraft,
                  perhaps its most important part. And a pilot’s eye replacement, the pilot doesn’t have to be
                  farsighted, which until recently was an important advantage.



                  The problem is that the only aircraft capable of replacing the F-15 is the F-22. And F-22 is not exported. Therefore, they will change the old versions of the F-15 to new versions of the F-15, which are undoubtedly inferior to the F-22. I hope that the next American president will be more adequate and allow the export of F-22 to the closest allies
                  1. NEXUS
                    NEXUS 11 May 2016 19: 52
                    +2
                    Quote: seren
                    that the next American president will be more adequate and allow the export of F-22 to the closest allies

                    Export is certainly good ... only the big question is whether the Allies want to buy pangolins at exorbitant prices, which are much more elegant than on Lightning.
                    1. Seren
                      Seren 11 May 2016 21: 54
                      0
                      The 35th costs about 100, and the 22nd in the region of 170. So one squadron of the 22nd in any case is within our means)))
                      1. NEXUS
                        NEXUS 11 May 2016 22: 01
                        +2
                        Quote: seren
                        The 35th costs about 100, and the 22nd in the region of 170. So one squadron of the 22nd in any case is within our means)))

                        And how much are these masterpieces an hour of flight? And service? Pull?
                      2. Seren
                        Seren 11 May 2016 22: 07
                        +1
                        Pull. Nowhere to go. In addition, the States will increase military assistance. Yes, and the 15s do not fly for free
                      3. NEXUS
                        NEXUS 11 May 2016 22: 10
                        +1
                        Quote: seren
                        Pull. Nowhere to go. In addition, the United States will increase military assistance.

                        I highlighted the main thing. hi
                      4. Aposlya
                        Aposlya 12 May 2016 08: 03
                        0
                        Quote: seren
                        Pull. Nowhere to go. In addition, the States will increase military assistance. Yes, and the 15s do not fly for free


                        States will not increase anything. There Benya went to the States and all to no purpose. Jacob Kedmi about this moment on Eaton TV told me that after Benya wiped his feet on Obama, now nothing shines for him for a long time. He also noted that the money that has already been planned, and they are exactly the same as before, is quite enough for Israel ...
                      5. Seren
                        Seren 12 May 2016 14: 37
                        -1
                        Yasha Kedmi is not interesting to anyone in Israel and no one takes him seriously. A pensioner who speaks for money what they want to hear from him in the country with "spiritual bonds." And the help will be increased in any case, the question is how much. Either sign the contract now, or wait for the next one. A President more friendly to Israel.
            6. Revolver
              Revolver 11 May 2016 22: 14
              0
              Quote: seren
              I hope that the next American president will be more adequate and allow the export of F-22 to the closest allies

              The old hag cannot be called adequate. Bernie is also inadequate, including with regard to Israel, albeit a Jew. I will personally vote for Trump as the least possible evil, although there are doubts as to its adequacy.

              Hillary for Prison 2016 !!!
              1. Seren
                Seren 11 May 2016 22: 50
                +2
                I speak English with a heavy republican accent. And this is the first election when I can’t say which of the candidates is worse. Hilka of course is no good, but Trump is not Viscount De Brazhelon. My prediction is that Hilka will win in 48 out of 50 States. She certainly sucks, but her luck is that Obama sucks even more than she does. Therefore, against his background, she will look pretty decent
                1. Aposlya
                  Aposlya 12 May 2016 08: 04
                  0
                  Quote: seren
                  which candidate is worse. Hilka of course is no good, but Trump is not Viscount De Brazhelon.


                  What about Sanders? He seems to be even better than Trump will be ...
              2. Fegelein
                Fegelein 12 May 2016 01: 46
                +2
                There are no direct presidential elections in the United States.
          2. iwind
            iwind 12 May 2016 01: 13
            0
            Quote: voyaka uh
            Paul Lyama for a helmet - not such a big price, if you think a little. After all, he is part of the OMS of the aircraft,

            a helmet does not cost half a lama. It costs a little more than the helmet I JHMCS (US Air Force Staff Helmet).
            HMDS helmet (for F-35) cost $ 264502 under the contract of 2015 (now most likely cheaper, but I'm too lazy to look)

            And individuality is also a notion of magazine magazines. I somehow doubt that these people were prepared indv. helmets.


            More precisely, the individual internal backing and face shield
        3. Winnie76
          Winnie76 11 May 2016 22: 15
          -1
          Amendment, 770 thousand dollars
          1. retardu
            retardu 12 May 2016 02: 59
            +1
            It does not cost 770. Stop posting bullshit about the price of moving avionics to Australia
      4. yushch
        yushch 11 May 2016 18: 38
        -1
        Quote: seren
        Israel is developing a pilot helmet to control the F-35 for all countries and avionics, weapons, stealth configuration of conformal fuel tanks and a double version of the F-35 for itself. I can assure you that the Israeli version of the F-35 will be better than the American.


        You forgot to mention the best world drone. Well, about the pilot's helmet, costing like a Ferrari, we heard. Moreover, this helmet can only be used by the pilot for whom it was originally made.
        1. bert123
          bert123 11 May 2016 20: 12
          -2
          Well, you, nevertheless, know that Russia produces the best airborne vehicles!
          1. abrakadabre
            abrakadabre 11 May 2016 20: 59
            +9
            Well, you, nevertheless, know that Russia produces the best airborne vehicles!
            Why are Yars and Topol-M not drones?
            1. NEXUS
              NEXUS 11 May 2016 21: 21
              +7
              Quote: abrakadabre
              Why are Yars and Topol-M not drones?

              On the way, the most unmanned drones in the world are Rubezh and Sarmat. wink
      5. GSH-18
        GSH-18 11 May 2016 19: 46
        0
        Quote: seren
        stealth configuration of conformal fuel tanks and a double version of the F-35 for myself. I can assure you that the Israeli version of the F-35 will be better than the American.

        Well poskoskalili and okay lol ... Honestly, I sincerely wish Israeli designers to shove normal avionics and other gadgets into the F-35, and recode everything in their own way. I can already imagine the distorted faces of McCain and other amerohawks! lol
        1. Operator
          Operator 11 May 2016 20: 07
          0
          McCain will be with two hands in order to fuse "Penguins" not into junk, but to Israel bully
          1. GSH-18
            GSH-18 11 May 2016 20: 26
            +1
            Quote: Operator
            McCain will be with two hands in order to fuse "Penguins" not into junk, but to Israel bully

            Rather, vparivat Jews amerokhren for sickly loot! laughing
            Once again, I admit the professionalism of ameromanagers who are able to raise the loot on deliberate crap, shoved by their own ward laughing
  2. Monos
    Monos 11 May 2016 15: 38
    +10
    Quote: seren
    And what else can you expect from a flying iron and a child prodigy, a brainchild drank dough? Is it the T-50 business? He, by definition, will be a cut above American under-planes ... I envy you in a good, human way)))


    It will be. Do not envy, you do not need airplanes. Eat kosher dates and keep the fig in your pocket.
    1. miru mir
      miru mir 11 May 2016 19: 39
      0
      Bgyyy laughing Best comment yet! And on the topic laughing
  3. VP
    VP 11 May 2016 17: 05
    +4
    According to my observations, almost no topic mentioning the F-35 is complete without the posts of visitors from Israel.
    Why this is so is unknown. But something drives them into such topics "to fight back these quilted jackets")
    Painfully for them it all seems.
    1. Winnie76
      Winnie76 11 May 2016 17: 55
      +1
      Quote: VP
      According to my observations, almost no topic mentioning the F-35 is complete without the posts of visitors from Israel.

      Phantom pains. Once they lived in a great aviation power, but now headsets vparivayut all over the world.
    2. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 11 May 2016 18: 23
      +7
      "According to my observations, almost no topic in which the F-35 is mentioned is complete without
      posts of visitors from Israel "

      You are very observant, and it is commendable. fellow
      What is surprising if this aircraft is soon to be adopted by the country.
      Of course, Israelis are interested in this topic.
      You are more interested in the T-50, and not New Zealand's armament with new pistols smile
      1. GSH-18
        GSH-18 11 May 2016 19: 53
        0
        Quote: voyaka uh
        What is surprising if this aircraft is soon to be adopted by the country.
        Of course, Israelis are interested in this topic.
        You are more interested in the T-50

        Infa on the T-50 is very stingy, clear-secret development request Even in Armata (T-14) more information. It is known that today two T-50 fighter jets are under military operation before being put into service and mass production. With the F-35, the picture is different. It is planned to be released in three versions, and so to speak, its demo versions are already in mass operation. Hence, a large number of imperfections and jambs, which are corrected at our factory at the stage of factory refinement of prototypes. In short, americos use their combatant pilots as experimental rats request
    3. miru mir
      miru mir 11 May 2016 19: 42
      +1
      For me, it's no wonder. Moreover, the overwhelming majority of Russian commentators. Probably for you Painfully smile
      1. VP
        VP 11 May 2016 20: 19
        0
        Frankly speaking, it’s not at all painful.
        Since the F-35 is a branch of evolution that drove US aircraft to a standstill.
        Under it there is no intelligible concept of use.
        Except for attempts like "this is a flying platform that does not enter close and medium battles, has cover, is accompanied by AWACS and does not climb into areas with a serious radar overlap."
        Well, why?
        Small radius. Limited use. The inability to "sharply make legs" if something goes wrong.
        I hope you don’t believe in the fairy tales about "all imperceptibly knocks off with stop km"?
        But in principle, yes, you will be successful - your opponents there are just those against whom the 35th will be able to work.
        Although the 15th will pull against them.
        This is an advanced drummer for work on the ground, in the role of a fighter this generation is 4 without any pluses, probably even with a minus.
        1. Operator
          Operator 11 May 2016 20: 49
          -1
          The detection range of the F-35 (RCS 0,3 sq. M.) Using the Irbis Su-35S radar is 165 km, the range of air-to-air missiles against the AIM-120D maneuverable target is 90 km, the RVV BD is 150 km am
          1. VP
            VP 11 May 2016 21: 04
            0
            These are all fairy tales.
            Throughout history, there has not been a single explosive shot down by a rocket from a distance of over 30 -35 km.
            This is the first.
            Second - how do you expect to get from 150-160 km?
            GOS works somewhere around the last ten kilometers to the target.
            The rocket will fly this hundred minutes two, the target will go away from the aiming point.
            Will you accompany and guide after launch?
            And then what kind of invisibility can there be at all?
            Stealth is relatively invisible until it works on a radio broadcast and doesn’t dare to radar.
            Third, the Su-35 has Khibiny stupidly clogging the guidance channel even before the start of the GOS missile. And what do F-35 do? Do launches from closer ranges?
            Oh, right now, at those distances the F-35 is not a tenant.
            1. Operator
              Operator 11 May 2016 21: 29
              +2
              For a long firing range in Russia, there is an RVV-BD air-to-air missile with a maximum flight range of 300+ km (150 km for a maneuverable target). Guidance of the missile at the target is radio command, after approaching the target at a distance of 15-20 km - with the help of an active RGSN.

              The detection range of the F-35 by the Su-35S radar (165 km) and the speeding of the Russian fighter (2500 km / h) over the American one (1700 km / h) are quite conducive to the Penguins becoming legal prey for the Su-35S.

              If earlier there were no precedents of aircraft shooting down by air-to-air missiles at a distance of more than 35 km, then after the adoption of the Russian Aerospace Forces RVV-SD (110/55 km) and RVV-BD will definitely be.
              1. VP
                VP 11 May 2016 22: 36
                0
                In, the radio command. And GOS with 15 km. I wrote that.
                Amers have the same thing.
                Those. after launch, this stealth crawls out of invisibility.
                And a rocket flying a couple of minutes to the target ...
                Well, I don’t know, of course, but I suppose that the pilot has a time car to go 70 kilometers or turn on the electronic warfare equipment.
                But at the start of kilometers from 20-30 it is already difficult to dodge, there the flight time is small and the GOS almost immediately in work.
                But at such short distances, the F-35 will not fight, they are very dangerous for him.
                1. Operator
                  Operator 11 May 2016 22: 59
                  -1
                  So I wrote that the Su-35S sees the Penguin from 165 km, within 11 seconds it reaches the RVV-BD launch line (150 km), exceeding the speed of 800 km / h (13,3 km / min), launches after missile, then for 135 seconds flies after the "Penguin" and radio command escorts the missile up to the capture of the target RGSN.

                  From RVV-BD, maneuvering with an overload of 40g, "Penguin" with its 9g is impossible to dodge.
                2. retardu
                  retardu 12 May 2016 03: 05
                  +2
                  About the radio command, you have already been asked to punch. So they did not throw off anything in their topic.
                  where is 165 km from? Why do you take epr 0.3?
                  What is the range of the GOS capture?
                3. Operator
                  Operator 13 May 2016 01: 43
                  -1
                  I do not understand - do you doubt that the RVV-DB before the target capture of the ARGSN is controlled by the radio command and that the millimeter ARGSN captures the target at 15 km?

                  Sukhoi Design Bureau evaluated the E-F-22 in 0,3 sq.m, the E-F-35 could not be less.

                  The maximum range of the Irbis Su-35S radar against a target with an RCS of 3 square meters in a sector of 10x10 degrees at a maximum power of 20 kW is 400 km. From here 165 km on the target with EPR 0,3 sq. M. at a rated power of 5 kW.

                  By the way, the detection range of the Irbis F-22 with an RCS of 0,01 square meters in the 10x10 degree sector at maximum power exceeds 90 km - the range of launching the most long-range NATO AIM-120D missile against a maneuverable target.

                  Those. Su-35С will detect the F-22 outside the range of the latter’s weapons, and when it detects it will hit an RVV-BD missile with a launch range of 150 km for the maneuverable target.

                  Penguin and Raptor have no chance in a fight with Su-35С.
      2. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh 12 May 2016 08: 33
        +2
        "F-35 detection (EPR 0,3 sq. m.)" ////

        Actually, the EPR F-35 is 0,01, but what is there ... Khibiny, Irbis of the enemy
        detect at the subconscious level smile
  4. GSH-18
    GSH-18 11 May 2016 21: 34
    0
    Quote: miru mir
    For me, it's no wonder. Moreover, the overwhelming majority of Russian commentators. Probably for you Painfully smile

    What is painful? F-35 will jam in the previous mode? lol Sheriff Indians don't care yes
    1. miru mir
      miru mir 11 May 2016 21: 39
      -2
      That's just the site once a month discussion of this pepelats smile
      1. Winnie76
        Winnie76 11 May 2016 22: 40
        +1
        This is not a discussion. The term "Banter" is more suitable ...
        1. Operator
          Operator 12 May 2016 01: 33
          -1
          I would say mockery bully
    2. Operator
      Operator 12 May 2016 01: 31
      -1
      "Sorry for the bird!" (FROM) bully
  • Alex777
    Alex777 11 May 2016 19: 08
    0
    Quote: seren
    And what else can you expect from a flying iron and a child prodigy, a brainchild drank dough? Is it the T-50 business? He, by definition, will be a cut above American under-planes ... I envy you in a good, human way)))


    We’ll finish the engine and see how it will be.
    It’s easier than catching electronic fleas. hi
  • GSH-18
    GSH-18 11 May 2016 20: 17
    0
    “The failure occurred when the main computer was connected to one of the aircraft’s weapons. So the car had to be planted again in order to restart the program, ”Leclair said.

    Who makes electronics and who writes software? There are two options here, either "For Services to the Fatherland" or ardent greetings to Chinese electronics manufacturers! laughing
  • BEECH 1972
    BEECH 1972 14 May 2016 19: 51
    0
    Quote: seren
    \\\ And what else can you expect from a flying iron and a child prodigy, a brainchild saw dough? Is it the T-50 business? He, by definition, will be a cut above American under-planes ... I envy you in a good, human way)))

    /// What a storm of conflicting feelings, however, you cause among the local electorate! 24 votes "-", 30 "+"! I envy you for the good, for the human, and of course for the human respect!ヅ
  • Korney84
    Korney84 11 May 2016 15: 12
    +1
    These pilots are kamikaze! I would not fly in their place on such an airplane, you never know what could happen ...
    1. guzik007
      guzik007 11 May 2016 17: 16
      +3
      These pilots are kamikaze!
      --------------------------------
      the coolest will be, if it requires a reboot during the battle: =)
  • voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 11 May 2016 15: 13
    +15
    This fixes the indicated problem of a central operating system failure,
    but also significantly limits the combat capabilities of the aircraft.
    With the F-22, the Americans did not dare to make a revolution in software, where software is more stable,
    but the Raptor is not sufficiently network-centric, so it could not be used as
    drummer in many operations.
    The F-35 took a chance, but now you have to catch more than one bug.
    1. godofwar6699
      godofwar6699 11 May 2016 15: 32
      0
      The F-35 Bureau’s joint program (MCC) stabilized a glitch-prone combination of software and hardware called Block 3i, potentially clearing the way for the first U.S. Air Force Lightning II combat squadron to announce its initial operational capability (IOC) between August and December.


      F-35 manufacturer Lockheed Martin is preparing a load of software in parallel with the Block 2B configuration that first task force F-35B Marine Corps has declared war readiness status since July last year.

      Evolutionary flight tests of Block 3i began in May 2014. However, problems caused by re-hosting of Block 2B's "immature" software and capabilities on the new computer processors installed in Block 3i of the aircraft caused flight tests to be restarted in September 2014. and then again in March 2015, according to a top Pentagon weapon tester.

      The developmental flight test of Unit 3i was then discontinued last October and an initial version was issued for the F-35 units "despite unresolved deficiencies" to prevent wider schedule delays.

      The office program has been struggling with "software stability" problems ever since. The aircraft were reportedly having to close and reload on the runway or reset the sensor or radar system "once 4h". This is an unacceptable failure rate for an operational squadron, and a significantly worse failure rate compared to earlier Block 2B aircraft, which were only reloaded every 30h or more.

      F-35 program director Lt. Gen. Christopher Bogdan told Congress last month that a failure rate of once every 8-10h or more would be more acceptable, and recent corrections now seem to have achieved this goal.
      1. 73bor
        73bor 11 May 2016 15: 51
        +2
        In the process, the skill of the pilots is leveled in every possible way, a flying PC is probably cool, but how will the Windows become obsolete - "drain everything?"
        1. Ren
          Ren 11 May 2016 16: 17
          0
          Any software has vulnerabilities ...
          I wish I could test it ...
          A lot of useful things can be found.
    2. saturn.mmm
      saturn.mmm 11 May 2016 16: 20
      +1
      Quote: voyaka uh
      The F-35 took a chance, but now you have to catch more than one bug.

      Bogdan said on April 26 that the problem with the software was fixed, however, he lied.
      1. iwind
        iwind 11 May 2016 16: 43
        +1
        Quote: saturn.mmm
        Quote: voyaka uh
        The F-35 took a chance, but now you have to catch more than one bug.

        Bogdan said on April 26 that the problem with the software was fixed, however, he lied.

        no. Lied to the media (look). Or rather, they "forgot" to mention that these are the first flights of the AF-4 with Block 3F, and they have just started testing it. Everything is as always - you won't lie there will be no sensation about the F-35 /
        In the meantime.
        "The version of the Block 3I software of the F-35 fighter, with which it in particular should reach combat readiness in the US Air Force this year, is ready. It is stated that during the last more than 100 hours of testing, fault tolerance has been demonstrated twice as better than on Block 2B (which is used on the F-35B of the USMC and with which they reached initial operational readiness last year) and three times better than on the first versions of Block 3I Overcome the problem of the early version of Block 3I, which caused the need for frequent reloading of radar.
        This week, updates will start rolling out to the 3I park, at the end of May, updates that increase stability will start to be installed on 2B .. "
        https://www.f35.com/news/detail/development-of-f-35-3i-software-for-usaf-ioc-com

        plete
        1. saturn.mmm
          saturn.mmm 11 May 2016 17: 30
          +2
          Quote: iwind
          not. Sovrl media (look)

          Actually, this is from the official site of LM.
          The team has flown 44 flights and 96 hours with the new software, and is now seeing a huge improvement in stability Bogdan said after an April 26 hearing of the Senate Armed Services Committee. The jets can fly for about 15 hours between shutdown events, he said, which is more than the eight to ten hours of stability the program office deemed "good enough."

          According to the article, it is written in it that not time is the cause of failures, but:
          "The second launch was so clean that it is even funny," - said the pilot.

          But, as it turned out, the problems were not over yet. “The failure occurred when the main computer was connected to one of the aircraft’s weapons.

          That is, problems in hardware compatibility.
          1. iwind
            iwind 11 May 2016 17: 39
            +2
            Quote: saturn.mmm
            Actually, this is from the official site of LM.

            well yes . He is talking about BLCOK 3I. Just about the end of the test
            "All of the testing of the Block improved 3i software will be finished by the end of the week, Bogdan said."
            Look at an article about BLOCK 3f
            "LeClair walked out to begin checking his jet, which was loaded with a version of the Block 3F software."
            http://www.defensenews.com/story/defense/air-space/2016/05/10/f-35-test-pilot-ed




            wards-air-force-development / 84042220 /
            Here, as they say, do not lie, do not sell. It seems like little things, but Block 3I and Block 3F are two big differences.
            And the fact that glitches in the new configuration of the aircraft (Block 3f) is quite normal for this and tests it
            The AF-3 board is just one of the first F-35s created for tests.
            1. godofwar6699
              godofwar6699 11 May 2016 17: 46
              0
              The F-35 Joint Program Office (JPO) has completed development of the software the US Air Force will use to declare Initial Operational Capability this year. The Block 3i software provides F-35s with initial warfighting capability on upgraded computer hardware.
              1. Fegelein
                Fegelein 12 May 2016 01: 58
                0
                There are so many American experts on the F-35, and for sure as "Nagant", they do not know that there is no direct presidential election in the United States ...
    3. NEXUS
      NEXUS 11 May 2016 18: 18
      +1
      Quote: voyaka uh
      With the F-22, the Americans did not dare to make a revolution in software, where software is more stable,
      but the Raptor is not sufficiently network-centric, so it could not be used as
      drummer in many operations.

      So the mattresses are thinking of resuming the production of dinosaurs with new software. Yes, only if it is the same as on Laitingen, it will fly on the 22nd, when it will be necessary to launch fighters of the 6th generation in a series.
      Quote: voyaka uh
      The F-35 took a chance, but now you have to catch more than one bug.

      To finish it, they will finish it and put it into series (officially, with seals and resolutions), but the question is, when? And the second, omitting all aspects of the cost, orders of friendly states, one thought comes to mind. If now, how many years, so many problems with this fighter, what will come out of it during the serial operation of these machines?
      Quote: seren
      Is it the T-50 business?

      There are enough problems with the PAK FA. But the development of the Russian fighter has reached the finish line, even with the engine of the first stage. But it must be understood that the T-50 will not be as massive as say the SU-27 or F-15. Therefore, we created a transitional version of the SU-35S . I believe that the SU-35 and the 30th will be the main striking force for at least another 10 years.
      1. clidon
        clidon 11 May 2016 19: 01
        0
        So they think mattresses to resume the production of dinosaurs with new software

        Do not think. More regular talks on this topic.
    4. Alex777
      Alex777 11 May 2016 19: 06
      +1
      Quote: voyaka uh
      This fixes the indicated problem of a central operating system failure,
      but also significantly limits the combat capabilities of the aircraft.
      With the F-22, the Americans did not dare to make a revolution in software, where software is more stable,
      but the Raptor is not sufficiently network-centric, so it could not be used as
      drummer in many operations.
      The F-35 took a chance, but now you have to catch more than one bug.


      Unfortunately, with the modernization of the F-22, the lack of work on the ground was eliminated. Therefore, they started talking about a possible resumption of production. But it is unlikely to succeed.
    5. VP
      VP 11 May 2016 20: 36
      0
      The F-35 took a chance, but now you have to catch more than one bug.

      As far as you know, you are going to seriously drag it for yourself, bringing version I.
      How do you personally predict how difficult it will be to make your changes to such an unstable system, how much time and money can you cope with?
    6. GSH-18
      GSH-18 11 May 2016 21: 30
      0
      Quote: voyaka uh
      With the F-22, the Americans did not dare to make a revolution in software, where software is more stable,
      but the Raptor is not sufficiently network-centric, so it could not be used as
      drummer in many operations.
      The F-35 took a chance, but now you have to catch more than one bug.

      In my opinion, the F-22 turned out to be much better for the Americans than the F-35! Yes, there are some specific unsolvable problems (besides high cost), but it was the first 5th generation aircraft in the world, it is excusable. The F-35 was advertised as an improved (kind of) variant of the F-22. And in the end, they got sickly problems and costs ... McCain is furious! lol
  • Dimontius
    Dimontius 11 May 2016 15: 08
    +4
    planes do not fly, ships fall apart, the military quit due to psychological breakdowns. yes it's just some kind of holiday fellow
    1. g1v2
      g1v2 11 May 2016 15: 33
      +13
      The main strength of their air force is f16 and f15, of which they have a couple - three thousand in storage and in the troops. They can put 2-3 of them on our fighter. This is the strength of their air force, and not wunderwafers like f22 or f35. If you decide to start a massive massive modernization of f15 and f16, scoring on f35 and f22, then they will become even more powerful. But while they spend money and resources on f35 and Zumvolta we have a chance to reduce the gap in the Air Force and Navy.
      In the case of a serious non-nuclear war, not unitary prodigies, but massive workhorses that are produced by thousands of pieces matter. The tiger was cooler than the t34, but the war ended in Berlin, not Moscow, because the mass production of low-cost equipment covers piece wunderwafes like a bull sheep. The force of our army will be for a long time not in a couple of hundred armatures, but in thousands of T72 in warehouses and in the troops.
      But of course, it cannot be denied that wunderwafers are driving the military-industrial complex and technology in general, but counting on them in a serious mess is silly. hi
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      2. Nevsky_ZU
        Nevsky_ZU 11 May 2016 15: 58
        +4
        Quote: g1v2
        The strength of our army will not be in a couple of hundreds of armature for a long time, but in thousands of tonsNXX in warehouses and in the army.


        I agree with everything except that. (plus put, but someone minus you) Still, T-72, even B3, is not an option. It would be better to rivet T-90А massively than T-72B3. I agree that Armata will not be mass in the troops, even if the price of oil becomes 150 Baku per barrel. hi And I would also bet on the mass production of the MiG-35 and Su-35, or even the Su-30 SM. Since the T-50 will not be mass produced either, and the MIG-35 will begin to be produced only in 2 years. Taking into account the world situation, the cost of the Su-35, it is necessary to throw effort into the mass production of the Su-30 SM, which the Irukt plant rivets almost 30 pieces a year. The plane has been without sores for a long time.
        1. g1v2
          g1v2 11 May 2016 19: 56
          0
          And the meaning of riveting t90a? T72 in a large number already exists - they just need to be upgraded to T72B3 and recapitalized. And the t90 must be produced from scratch - from ZERO it is better to just armata. request In addition, we have enough weak points for which we need to allocate resources and money. Tank units are not.
          And about su30cm completely agree. I think that it will be massive, and T50 for elite and shock parts. Even after adoption, it will not become the main aircraft for a long time. hi
      3. VP
        VP 11 May 2016 20: 54
        0
        Well, three of the 15s and 16s does not smell there, of course.
        15 of all modifications they have about five hundred, 16 in the region of a thousand, also starting from the first modifications.
        How much of this park is serviceable and not worth and not cannibalized is a question.
        They also have a lot of deck superhornets.
        It is also unclear how much is in readiness. Plus, the Hornets are the Navy Letak.
        And they are unlikely to wish to push aircraft carriers to the territory of an enemy with an arsenal of struggle with aircraft carriers. And the radius of the deck is not the most impressive.
      4. TOR2
        TOR2 11 May 2016 21: 02
        0
        Quote: g1v2
        The tiger was cooler than the t34, but the war ended in Berlin, not Moscow, because the mass production of low-cost equipment covers piece wunderwafes like a bull sheep. The force of our army will be for a long time not in a couple of hundred armatures, but in thousands of tons of 72 in warehouses and in the troops

        Oh, if everything was so simple. Of course, the production of inexpensive equipment can be established, but how to set up the production of people in wartime. In modern realities, carry out several Rzhev-Vyazemsky operations and you simply will not have the human resources to continue the war.
        Whatever this happened, developments began to appear in the form of the Uranus complex and the robotic T-72.
  • Nevsky_ZU
    Nevsky_ZU 11 May 2016 15: 09
    +12
    “The best analogy here is as if you, having turned on the computer, would simultaneously launch several programs: Word, Excel, PowerPoint and Outlook - and try to work with them. But you are having incomprehensible problems with Excel, which have to restart the entire system, ”he said.

    Somewhere long ago I read an interview with Poghosyan that they went the other way both in the Su-35 and in the T-50, moving away from the principle of "one powerful computer" which is responsible for all the avionics and the glass cockpit, and spread tasks to several computers by function. by avoiding many programs on one computer, albeit powerful. It's a pity I can't remember more precisely, I'm not a geek. There was just a question in the spirit of the F-35 problems.
    1. Nevsky_ZU
      Nevsky_ZU 11 May 2016 15: 39
      +9
      In general, I am sad and offended for the world. Without ridicule about the United States and our hatred, all the same, we all went the wrong way of technological development. If the world ever gets out of this consumption and moves on, then this era of the beginning of the 21st century will be called the era of "applications and software for the sake of software." What is the fundamental difference between the Samsung S4 smartphone and the S6!? eh .... without the USSR, there is no progress even in the United States.
      1. max702
        max702 11 May 2016 16: 31
        +10
        Quote: Nevsky_ZU
        ..without the USSR there is no progress even in the USA.

        Here you are very true to notice! Without a competing system, the remaining one is degrading .. The entire capitalist world today is essentially one country, and they will always agree on minor differences, because they are global in the world .. Namely, profit at all costs, do not care that modern products are low in quality and have little meaning so that the people acquire them .. If the USSR was a competitor and did not lag far behind the Western tycoons thereby preventing them from driving an obvious bullshit threatening to take their place on the market at any time, now there is no problem with globalism because a global conspiracy will not allow a competitor to appear .. How an example look at the quality of Mercedes before the collapse of the USSR and now ..
        1. Corsair
          Corsair 11 May 2016 16: 50
          +2
          Quote: max702
          As an example, look at the quality of Mercedes before the collapse of the USSR and now ..

          what The quality wasn’t because of this, it just appeared new technologies for making money, have you ever heard about the release of goods with a limited duration? The calculation of the constant change of goods, the purchase by consumers of novya or components.
      2. Corsair
        Corsair 11 May 2016 16: 37
        +3
        Quote: Nevsky_ZU
        the era of the beginning of the 21st century will be called the era of "applications and software for the sake of software." What is the fundamental difference between the Samsung S4 smartphone and the S6!?

        good I applaud, you can say standing!
        Instead of space exploration, food production technologies for the entire population of the planet and all kinds of benefits (education, health, sports, culture), they massively hit the dough - by squeezing the last juice out of new products with any marketing shnyaga - megahertz race, then the kernels went 2-3- 5, the displays were stuck on the LCD, instead of replacing the internal combustion engine with something environmentally less harmful and more effective - the cars are stuffed with LEDs and a new hood with a bumper.
        At school, in my childhood (80s) I thought in 30 years we would fly to the moon as to a neighboring region, teleports, flying cars, a cosmolift to orbital stations for sufferers, robots doing hard work, but after the 90s, progress was closed on "wrappers ", almost everything that is being done now is candy wrappers for outdated technologies with minor edits, if suddenly something revolutionary turns out, then they block the dignity to the maximum and then for decades they open it a little bit to consumers.
        1. guzik007
          guzik007 11 May 2016 17: 23
          +3
          Instead of space exploration, food production technologies for the entire population of the planet and all kinds of benefits (education, health, sports, culture), they massively hit the dough
          -----------------------------------
          Exactly. With the demise of the USSR, the era of a society of creation ended. And the consumer society triumphed.
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  • Vend
    Vend 11 May 2016 15: 16
    +2
    Quote: Leto
    Oh, right now, buuuuudet ....

    Western faith in superman (supermachine) is already a chronic disease. Not treated laughing
    1. Armored optimist
      Armored optimist 11 May 2016 15: 34
      +7
      Many things that Americans are trying to load on a computer can be solved "on the spot" with fairly simple devices on controllers, etc., or even on discretes that have not heard anything about the operating system and software and hardware conflicts.
    2. godofwar6699
      godofwar6699 11 May 2016 15: 53
      -1
      Quote: Wend
      Quote: Leto
      Oh, right now, buuuuudet ....

      Western faith in superman (supermachine) is already a chronic disease. Not treated laughing

      Your belief that people believe in Superman is already a disease laughing
    3. 73bor
      73bor 11 May 2016 15: 56
      +5
      It seems that the words of the German general from the movie "Seventeen Moments of Spring" are beginning to come true - "Americans will be destroyed by their own technology!"
  • vkl.47
    vkl.47 11 May 2016 15: 34
    +4
    and someone from VO's pastors praised this stuff so much. even with foam at the mouth
  • Stalker.1977
    Stalker.1977 11 May 2016 15: 39
    +3
    Morons put Ubuntu 16.04)))))))) nefig with Windows glitch messing around, or download the beast, he already configured all the services there as it should))))))))
    1. Igor39
      Igor39 11 May 2016 16: 03
      +4
      Reflash and install antivirus, then laughing laughing laughing
    2. VP
      VP 11 May 2016 21: 22
      +1
      There, the campaign is not a problem with Windows)
      Peppers do not allow programmers who come from China, India, Russia and several other countries to write software for this letak. And their own IT specialists have PMs and not encoders, it’s not kosher to laberate a code for a local team)
  • Alex_Rarog
    Alex_Rarog 11 May 2016 17: 07
    0
    Well, what a cool iron! There, Vista’s campaign costs as an axis !!!
  • Dmitry Toderes
    Dmitry Toderes 11 May 2016 18: 30
    0
    I was always enraged when you take something on a smartphone, and this one takes and hangs, then starts to reboot (1-2 minutes), but then nothing but nerves suffers, and imagine if the on-board computer freezes during an air battle - the pilot will lose precious 1-2 minutes and will receive an interceptor missile in his lobeshnik.
  • sub307
    sub307 11 May 2016 18: 53
    0
    What what...? Something like this: "The Indian Navy replaced the British Sea Harriers with Russian MiG-29K carrier-based fighters. The official replacement ceremony took place on Wednesday, May 11, at the Naval Base in Goa."
    http://военное.рф/2016/ТорговляОружием36/
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  • GSH-18
    GSH-18 11 May 2016 19: 37
    0
    Media: computer crashes seem to have become a chronic F-35 disease

    Not otherwise, the hand of the Kremlin hackers! lol
  • GSH-18
    GSH-18 11 May 2016 19: 39
    0
    The article says that “during test flights, you have to restart the software in more than 30% of cases”

    So the Americans smashed on Chinese chips! lol
  • Observer2014
    Observer2014 11 May 2016 15: 04
    +13
    "Media: Computer crashes seem to become a chronic disease of the F-35"
    Kaspersky Anti-Virus should be installed bully
    1. Observer2014
      Observer2014 11 May 2016 16: 30
      +2
      "Kaspersky Internet Security for all devices"

      1800 rub. Two devices per year.

      Oh how! Cheap and cheerful! And not some trojans, viruses and other chiaroscuro. laughing So, whoever has a connection with the Pentagon on our site, let them advise. Even updates will regularly come laughing
    2. Armored optimist
      Armored optimist 11 May 2016 16: 31
      +4
      Just by the way.
      -Something slows my comp.
      - Probably from a virus
      -I have an antivirus
      -Then from antivirus
      1. GSH-18
        GSH-18 11 May 2016 20: 11
        0
        Quote: armored optimist
        Just by the way.
        -Something slows my comp.
        - Probably from a virus
        -I have an antivirus
        -Then from antivirus

        In the trash such a computer lol
    3. Corsair
      Corsair 11 May 2016 16: 40
      +2
      Quote: Observer2014
      Kaspersky Anti-Virus should be installed

      Anecdote in the topic:
      How to make a lot of money? Need three people (companies)
      One is developing operating systems.
      The second viruses are under these systems.
      Third antivirus program.
      1. guzik007
        guzik007 11 May 2016 17: 25
        +3
        And even cooler, two companies:
        One creates viruses, and the second vaccines against them.
        1. Corsair
          Corsair 11 May 2016 18: 23
          +1
          Quote: guzik007
          One creates viruses, and the second vaccines against them.

          I agree, but it seems to me that now the same firms are doing it. what
          1. Observer2014
            Observer2014 11 May 2016 20: 32
            +3
            Gentlemen for general development. Mr. Evgeny Kaspersky In 1987 he graduated from the 4th (technical) faculty of the KGB Higher School [6] (now the faculty is known as the Institute of Cryptography, Communications and Informatics of the Academy of the FSB of Russia) in Moscow. Now my humor about Kaspersky is the No. 8 enemy of the United States! The main reason for this choice is that Kaspersky Lab interferes with American cyber operations in Iran and other countries. This is not surprising, since the Laboratory's profile is the detection of viruses, spyware and other malicious programs, and the aforementioned US operations were carried out with the help of such an infection (Duqu, Stuxnet, Flame and others).
  • Bureaucrat
    Bureaucrat 11 May 2016 15: 05
    +2
    The main thing is to fly, and the route will be laid on the tablet through the navigator.
    1. Altona
      Altona 11 May 2016 15: 26
      +7
      Quote: Bureaucrat
      The main thing is to fly, and the route will be laid on the tablet through the navigator.

      -----------------
      And how will the flaps and empennage be controlled? Cannon shoot? It's not at home with chips on the couch, but in a real flight. Such a pilot flies, and the message "YOUR SYSTEM WAS FAILED AND WILL BE RELOAD! WAIT PLEASE!" ("Your system has crashed and will be rebooted! Please wait!") And you have an altitude of 7500, and you cannot do anything, everything is blocked. You have everything you can and can't do on your tail. And you "please wait!" belay lol
      1. alstr
        alstr 11 May 2016 15: 34
        +3
        I remember yailm was very similar, but about the tank on which nichrome did not work. I think it's time for Gulllywood to shoot the second film, but already about the F-35)))
  • LÄRZ
    LÄRZ 11 May 2016 15: 05
    +5
    "Unfinished is worse than undone." The "raw" software has been installed, so they are struggling. Let their native Microsoft send them updates, it's business.
    1. Thunderbolt
      Thunderbolt 11 May 2016 15: 11
      +3
      Quote: LÄRZ
      Let them send them their native Microsoft update, business then.
      So the updates are paid laughing
      1. LÄRZ
        LÄRZ 11 May 2016 15: 33
        +3
        Quote: Thunderbolt
        So the updates are paid

        Well, are you just like in kindergarten ?? Is there a little "pick" for hacking? Oh, yes, yes, yes, this is the USA, they will weigh the deadline for this ... Well, skip updates through our hackers, and then say that it was the Chinese who hacked it.
    2. Amurets
      Amurets 11 May 2016 15: 13
      +1
      Quote: LÄRZ
      The unfinished is worse than the unfinished one. "The" raw "software has been installed, so they are struggling. Let them send them updates from their native Microsoft, business then.

      Well, yes, but they are trying to transplant us to a similar 10th (that is, a window). Let them work on the service packs, bring them to the F-35, and then try to pair them.
      1. LÄRZ
        LÄRZ 11 May 2016 15: 37
        +2
        Quote: Amurets
        Well, yes, and they are trying to transplant us to a similar 10 (that is, a window).

        Nope! I grabbed my "seven" with my teeth and hands, I will not trade it! laughing
    3. dorz
      dorz 11 May 2016 15: 17
      +2
      Quote: LÄRZ
      "Unfinished is worse than undone." The "raw" software has been installed, so they are struggling. Let their native Microsoft send them updates, it's business.

      Russia sells software for $ 6 billion annually. Can be ordered from Russians. laughing
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  • driver
    driver 11 May 2016 15: 05
    +3
    Urgently launch in a series!
  • Alexander 3
    Alexander 3 11 May 2016 15: 08
    +3
    Why am I glad that they are doing so well. Maybe we should cry? Instead, I want to laugh instead, or am I the only one.
  • Altona
    Altona 11 May 2016 15: 09
    +4
    Nice plane. I always praise him. True, no one believes me. laughing
    1. Sorokin
      Sorokin 11 May 2016 15: 13
      +2
      We believe, support. We are for it. Let them fly and fall before rebooting.
    2. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 11 May 2016 16: 58
      +4
      I also praise him. And no one believes me either drinks
      1. Seren
        Seren 11 May 2016 17: 52
        -2
        Why? I believe you ... But to balance the composition of our Air Force, I would also like the F-22 squadron ...
  • Sorokin
    Sorokin 11 May 2016 15: 09
    +1
    Something is decaying in the Kingdom of Dats ... fie Amerrikak. Well, through the ass, it’s hard to score a smart program. To whom only the Russian peasants were satisfied with their children, and that was the epic.
  • Alexez
    Alexez 11 May 2016 15: 09
    +1
    Ghrelin is to blame. No, not like that - Putin and the gremlins ... no, not that again. Putin's gremlins are to blame for everything !!!
    1. The point
      The point 11 May 2016 15: 28
      0
      Let me fix you, Kremlin-gremlins.
  • Yak-15
    Yak-15 11 May 2016 15: 12
    +1
    A characteristic indicator of how not measured greed for money ruins any business. She does not even stop, before the destruction of the country's security. But personally, I, this and other similar cases with mattresses, really welcome. And education also makes itself felt. According to American sociologists, its quality is declining rapidly.
  • HAM
    HAM 11 May 2016 15: 14
    +5
    It was he who did not even reach the electronic warfare systems, and then when to "overload"?
    1. MiRvSeMvDoM
      MiRvSeMvDoM 11 May 2016 15: 27
      +3
      I agree. This is the first thought that visited me yes
  • Vyacheslav73
    Vyacheslav73 11 May 2016 15: 16
    +2
    "A failure occurred when the main computer was connected to one of the aircraft's weapons."- Arms malfunction ... like a balm for the soul ... more often, their weapons would fail laughing "So the car had to be landed again to restart the program."- said Leclair ... well, to land a car in the presence of a malfunction and on the tail of the t-50 (or su 35) is almost
    unreal lol
    1. Korney84
      Korney84 11 May 2016 15: 42
      +1
      Why not really plant ??? Quite possibly true in parts lol
  • Valter1364
    Valter1364 11 May 2016 15: 16
    +3
    Citizens, Yusovtsy!
    Rename the F-35 to Reset-35 and you will succeed. smile
    1. godofwar6699
      godofwar6699 11 May 2016 17: 08
      -2
      Quote: Valter1364
      Citizens, Yusovtsy!
      Rename the F-35 to Reset-35 and you will succeed. smile

      stop renaming fighter jets only Russia has done so far.
  • Arkan
    Arkan 11 May 2016 15: 17
    +1
    Media: computer crashes seem to have become a chronic F-35 disease


    Where did all the silicone in "Silicon Valley" go? Or is their Windows constantly updated? Icemen trying to fly in 35s should be equated with kamikaze.
  • Aaron Zawi
    Aaron Zawi 11 May 2016 15: 21
    +2
    Damn and no one wants to go to the official site of F-35? Is it necessary to drag the OBS? The Americans are not so bad.

    After several years of delays, F-35 series production begins to include the afterburner, defenseone.com reports (May 6).
    It is reported that full-scale production will begin in 2019, Lockheed Martin is completing the formation of nine “assembly stations” at one of the facilities, the floors of which are filled with concrete, the alignment is performed using a laser beam, and reduced air pressure helps to remove dust and debris particles from airframes. At another facility, scaffolding is visible to receive seven assembly stations.
    This year, Lockheed will build 53 aircraft of this type, their total number will exceed 200 aircraft, which is more than the F-22 fighters were built. By 2020, the main assembly plant in Fort Worth will reach full capacity - 17 aircraft per month, by this year the total number of F-35s will reach more than 600 units, including 180 that will be at the disposal of US allies.
    The F-35 is a complex construction in which the total length of cables and wires is almost 30 km. The aircraft has 300 thousand components from more than 1100 suppliers located in the United States and around the world, with about half of the aircraft mounted from foreign subcontractors. The object in Italy has already been built by the first aircraft, in 2017 the first Japanese-built fighter will roll out.   
    Despite its enormous size, work at the plant is very quiet. There is no knocking stave or coinage. From time to time, a warning signal sounds that some part of the glider has started moving from one workstation to another. Employees ride bicycles because it is faster than walking. All three F-35 variants are assembled at the same time, and the work is performed by the same workers and engineers (the difference in components is only about 30%). More than 2200 people work on the conveyor belt, support staff of 1500 people are nearby.
    For the production of the first F-35A in 2006, approximately 160 thousand working hours were required, for the production of the last fighter of this version at the moment, it took only 43 thousand hours. The cost of one aircraft by 2019 will fall to $ 80 million.
    The F-35 program management has announced that it has completed development of the 3i software block that will be used on the F-35 version aircraft, defensenews.com reported (May 9).
    It is reported that work went on overtime for several months to fix major software errors. Pilots found that this unit needs to be rebooted every three to four hours. This kind of malfunction was observed both during engine start-up, and in the air, and was called “choking”.
    The new improved version of the software demonstrates stability twice as good as the 2B unit and three times as much as the 3i unit in the previous form. It is stated that the modernization of aircraft with the loading of an improved version unit will begin this week. The entire fleet of F-35 fighters will receive the 3i unit brought to the necessary conditions until the end of the year.
    Currently, the main efforts are focused on completing the development of the 3F unit, which should provide the full combat potential of the F-35.
    1. Sealek
      Sealek 11 May 2016 15: 42
      +2
      Block 3I Release
      The program’s office announced that the version of the Block 3I software for the F-35 fighter, with which in particular it should achieve initial operational readiness in the US Air Force this year, is ready. It is stated that during the last more than 100 hours of testing, fault tolerance was demonstrated to be twice as good as on Block 2B (which is also used on the F-35B US ILC and with which they reached the initial operational readiness last year) and three times better than on the first versions Block 3I. The problem of the early version of Block 3I was overcome, which necessitated a frequent restart of the radar.
      This week they will start rolling updates on Park 3I, at the end of May updates that increase stability will begin to be installed on 2B.

      Thus, R&D is fully focused on finalizing the Block 3F version - already the "release F-35", not the "beta" version. Its readiness will mean the end of the development stage of "Lightning".

      PS The wildest carbon article on how tests of new software look in life.
      http://www.defensenews.com/story/defense/air-space/2016/05/10/f-35-test-pilot-ed

      wards-air-force-development / 84042220 /

      A DefenseNews correspondent was sent to Edwards airport to see how the 461st Test Squadron of the US Air Force works. Everything needs to be translated there, so I'll leave a link to the English original, but the approach to solving problems touched me, I do it myself at work. You just reload this * ovno until it works ... (sometimes helps).
    2. saturn.mmm
      saturn.mmm 11 May 2016 16: 57
      +1
      Quote: Aron Zaavi
      reduced air pressure helps remove dust and debris from airframes.

      This is about a vacuum cleaner right?
      Quote: Aron Zaavi
      Despite its enormous size, work at the plant is very quiet. There is no knocking stave or coinage.

      Extravaganza. Who wrote this?
      They violate TB, work without helmets.
      1. UralMan
        UralMan 11 May 2016 19: 01
        +1
        Quote: saturn.mmm
        They violate TB, work without helmets.

        -----------
        unlike our assemblers ... tools don’t wallow anywhere and don’t fall on a bad head
        --------------
        I notice and we have no helmets
        1. saturn.mmm
          saturn.mmm 12 May 2016 23: 50
          0
          Quote: UralChel
          I notice and we have no helmets

          It's not about us, there were statements that they did not violate TB, I cited the photo as evidence.
    3. guzik007
      guzik007 11 May 2016 17: 29
      +1
      Damn and no one wants to go to the official site of F-35?
      ... reduced air pressure helps remove dust and debris from aircraft gliders ...
      ---------------------------------------------
      And maybe all the same "high blood pressure"?
      1. saturn.mmm
        saturn.mmm 11 May 2016 17: 38
        0
        Quote: guzik007
        And maybe all the same "high blood pressure"?

        No, the vacuum cleaner lowers the pressure.
  • beer-youk
    beer-youk 11 May 2016 15: 23
    +2
    Quote: Arkan
    Icemen trying to fly in the 35s should be equated with kamikazes.


    We sing the song to the frenzy of greed!
  • The point
    The point 11 May 2016 15: 26
    +2
    Is it really about Chinese components? Or in a fairly powerful budget?
    1. vv3
      vv3 11 May 2016 22: 14
      0
      No, nothing will fail on our aircraft, so our Chinese and Indian components are better. And our computing capabilities are so primitive that we simply cannot have such failures and therefore we are at least in the ass, but ahead. We do not need their BLOCK , we make unrealizable blocks from plasticine, with the possibility of replacing them later, but we don’t even see their American, Japanese and other consumer goods at close range ,,, Urya!
  • Taoist
    Taoist 11 May 2016 15: 29
    +10
    "Are you sure you really want to eject?"
    "YES !!!" - Falcon yelled heart-rendingly, looking at the land rushing towards him.
    - Wait, preparations are underway for the ejection, - the system calmly informed and plunged into thoughtfulness ... "(c) bully
  • dsm100
    dsm100 11 May 2016 15: 32
    +2
    The reset button and the toothpick in addition to reboot.
  • bad
    bad 11 May 2016 15: 35
    +2
    Media: computer crashes seem to have become a chronic F-35 disease
    ... heh .. Putin is to blame? .. laughing
    1. fn111
      fn111 11 May 2016 16: 09
      +1
      Is he! Who else !?)
  • Zefr
    Zefr 11 May 2016 15: 45
    -2
    It’s just that many Russian programmers work TAM ... So ... He will never fly. Codes must be completely rewritten. And then it will be so when the armament is turned on, it will reboot.
  • RPG_
    RPG_ 11 May 2016 16: 03
    0
    This Skynet debugs its chains in parallel. wink
  • Ren
    Ren 11 May 2016 16: 10
    +1
    Strange, when I load Word, Excel, PowerPoint and Outlook at the same time, I have no errors and problems.
    But if a conflict just happens. then I just restart the hung (problem) application without rebooting the whole system.
    1. renics
      renics 11 May 2016 22: 29
      0
      9when loading Word, Excel, PowerPoint and Outlook at the same time) This is just a given example by a programmer, and not a real situation.
  • Приговор
    Приговор 11 May 2016 16: 17
    +2
    Well, all these problems with the F-35 are really small things, it's just a super plane with outstanding performance characteristics! Especially, of course, those machines that will be produced in sunny Israel, the state of outstanding engineers and hereditary machine builders ..;))) These, of course, valuable, thoughts will certainly be shared with us by our Israeli, so to speak, colleagues. There is a feeling that it is the Israelis who are the authors of this, so to speak, machine, and not the long-suffering Americans, our restless "partners" and outstanding peacekeepers because of the big puddle. Calm down, my friends. Nobody scolds your F-35, you shouldn't take criticism so painfully. With all my heart I wish you to fly as long as possible in such a wonderful car in all respects (including the cost of one hour of flight) ... laughing
  • varov14
    varov14 11 May 2016 16: 18
    +4
    Do you want to shoot, land a fighter, restart your computer, shoot, restart your computer and you can fly on, that's all.
  • Berber
    Berber 11 May 2016 16: 47
    0
    I really want the "partners" to have as many such aircraft as possible. And let their allies not stay aside.
    Judging by it, such a good experiment is worth trillions of dollars.

    Keep it up!!!
  • 2nd 12th
    2nd 12th 11 May 2016 16: 52
    0
    Once I read a book about the history of the creation and operation of the SR-71. It noted that one of the main reasons for its removal from service was the prohibitive high cost of maintenance. Lockheed specialists performed services accurately and on time. But the cost of their hours of work significantly exceeded the cost of the work of regular regular Air Force technicians. In addition, the quality and timing of work by the staff was very different from the "firm".
    It looks like the F-35 could be the same. The Air Force will not be able to operate the "innovative" aircraft.
  • sw6513
    sw6513 11 May 2016 16: 59
    0
    Their fighter, like ours, is for a neat budget cut
    1. pifann
      pifann 11 May 2016 18: 58
      0
      Please remember how they invented a fountain pen for space! And ours just used a pencil.
  • Nevsky_ZU
    Nevsky_ZU 11 May 2016 17: 32
    0
    Media: computer crashes seem to have become a chronic F-35 disease


    From the fact that this topic with F-35 began to comment so massively, my laptop hangs !!!
  • Winnie76
    Winnie76 11 May 2016 18: 34
    0
    IMHO, most of the problems of the F-35 were laid down during design at the stage of formation of the application concept. And no computers, weapons, helmets can fix anything. It remains to throw the penguin in the trash and start again. The iterative process is wink And our Israeli friends, as people are certainly smart, understand this. But to say, the king is naked, to admit to himself - there is not enough spirit. Although for Israel, a strong air force is a matter of survival. It's easier to bury your head in the sand, cut a little dough and stupidly believe in invisible penguins
  • avg-mgn
    avg-mgn 11 May 2016 18: 35
    0
    Quote: Observer2014
    Kaspersky Anti-Virus should be installed bully

    Cancel the sanctions and let the truncated "Elbrus" vilify.
  • masiya
    masiya 11 May 2016 19: 55
    -1
    Oh, how are we waiting for him in our peaceful sky as a target for the C300, C400, and promising developments (C500 onwards) WELCOME ... and our fighters need to frolic -.
    1. miru mir
      miru mir 11 May 2016 20: 47
      -1
      You are in full honesty calling yourself a war ?! belay
      1. TOR2
        TOR2 11 May 2016 21: 23
        +1
        And why are you so surprised. So far, mattress covers will not run into a fist somewhere, will not calm down. How and where, you can assume as much as you like. Ideally, of course, it would be as if in 1947 in Antarctica, when Richard Byrd's squadron was attacked by disk-shaped objects.
        1. miru mir
          miru mir 11 May 2016 21: 32
          +1
          I am surprised at the person’s desire to fight. If it is for red words said figs with him. War is always grief.
          1. saturn.mmm
            saturn.mmm 12 May 2016 23: 53
            +1
            Quote: miru mir
            I am surprised at the desire of man to fight. If it is said for a red word, figs with it. War is always grief.

            Gifted everywhere.
            1. miru mir
              miru mir 13 May 2016 08: 28
              0
              Quote: saturn.mmm
              Gifted everywhere.

              It is truth too.
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  • Yrost
    Yrost 11 May 2016 22: 08
    +2
    I got up from behind a computer with amerskoy software, got into a cool American car, drove to the house using their own navigator indicating traffic jams and sat down on the American Internet to talk about their "shortcomings" ... That's our guys!
    1. vv3
      vv3 11 May 2016 22: 30
      0
      I said too, but only in a grosser form above. I'll see how many cons there will be.
    2. Fegelein
      Fegelein 12 May 2016 02: 13
      +1
      Amer’s support is made by Russian, Chinese and Indian programmers. Amer’s wheelbarrows can’t even be found in the United States itself.
  • renics
    renics 11 May 2016 22: 25
    0
    So, it means the combat flight of the F-35 during a local conflict, on approaching the target there was a problem with the programmed control of weapons on board, as a result the plane turned out to be unarmed. Turning back on the way, he got a rocket air-air or ground-air to follow. Cool technique, this is what Americans need, so that they do not feel exceptional.
  • Ajent cho
    Ajent cho 11 May 2016 23: 30
    0
    everything also requires frequent reboots
    Uh ... Windows-10?
    1. renics
      renics 12 May 2016 14: 55
      0
      Yes, I agree, this is a complete shnyaga, combined the seven with the eight and they got a dozen.