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Why Kirov is not quite Russia, or How to Cut Down Money on Victory

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Interesting city of Kirov ... It seems to be ours, Russian, but some things allow us to doubt this. What is the reason, you can not say right away, you need to understand. Whether Nikita Belykh’s superblogger is to blame, or his superzam Masha Gaidar worked well in her time, I don’t know. But for some reason, some of the concepts in this town are distorted so that you wonder. As if something is added to the water.




The attention of the Internet community attracted the publication of the "Immortal Regiment" in Kirov. The theme is that every year stirs the minds and hearts. But this year in Kirov something was utterly undone.

So ...

Site Procession "Immortal regiment" just invites everyone to take part in the procession. Without any restrictions and other things. Come with portraits and take part in the procession.

But in Kirov it's not like that. For the fourth year in a row, the All-Russian campaign in Kirov has been organized by the newspaper Pro Gorod, First City Channel and Radio Maria with the support of the city administration.

On the city site The immortal regiment 2016: how to become a member of the action this year amazing things are written.

Polina Seregina, one of the coordinators of the project "Immortal Regiment":

"Not so much time is left until 9 May. From 4 April we will again begin accepting applications for making portraits of veterans. I ask everyone to treat the action with understanding: its goal is to honor the memory of our grandfathers and great-grandfathers who gave us the Victory, life. Not all the participants of the action will be able to see those festive actions that will take place on the square during the parade. When our regiment stands in ten rows, it is simply impossible. Our goal is different! It is important that those whose lives were at the price of Victory should stand on that day in one system, be the center of attention. This is the main thing. If you want to just become a spectator of the parade, show it to the children, it’s better to just watch it on TV or standing behind the barriers in the square. "

Strange words. Everywhere they say: come all, but in Kirov somehow differently. But we go further.

Applications are accepted from 4 to 22 April on weekdays from 14 to 19 hours at: Oktyabrsky Avenue, 120, first floor. Production cost - 500 rubles. To apply you need:

- photo of the veteran;

- surname, name, patronymic, rank with which he ended the war;

- years of life.

As before, it will be possible to attend the parade only by invitations, the number of which is limited. Information on invitation tickets will appear later, stay tuned the news. Hotline phone 467-998.

Like this. The number of invitations is limited, and they are, apparently, only to those who bring in a portrait of an established and agreed upon sample of 500 rubles.

I agree, the amount is small, the memory is more expensive. But the words of the activist Polina Seregina that “those whose lives were the price of Victory, rose on one day on this day, were the center of attention. This is the main thing” becomes understandable.

To become the center of attention is to pay.

But here you are, information from my Voronezh. We also honor the memory, we also have marches of the regiment, although in May 2015, it was rather a division, and not one.

The My Documents Centers in the Voronezh Region also participate in the Immortal Regiment action. But how?

"This year, multifunctional centers have provided additional opportunities for the replenishment of the Immortal Regiment."

From April 18 to May 7, Voronezh residents can come to multifunctional centers, bring on electronic media photos of their relatives, neighbors, neighbors - participants of the Great Patriotic War, print them for free and if necessary make a small correction. To do this, simply contact the administrator. "


And further - addresses. 4 in the city, 14 in the area. In all district centers.

Come, we will correct, we will print.

What is the reason, honestly, I do not understand. Could it be that on the Voronezh land some of the bloodiest battles on the territory of Russia took place? And in Kirov, no? Or other people?

Why in Voronezh and other cities you can just come with a portrait of your grandfather, and in Kirov - only with the one that will be made by the organizers? With her, apparently, will not be allowed.

For example: in the 2015 year in Voronezh, the regiment's procession turned into something badly representable. Even the organizers were not ready for such a number of participants. 30 000. Thirty thousand. Army.

That would be the Kirov figures, right? Not even 30, 10 thousands. From everyone to 500 rubles ... beauty!

But I am sure that the people of Kirov will pay. It is unlikely that they want to be worse than other Russians. Even better. We will go for free, and they - giving their money in the pocket of outright freaks who want to make money on our memory.

I wonder where the gentlemen of the Whites and Hops are looking? And who, in general, is simply obliged to bear responsibility for the frank lawlessness, which suits, according to the city newspaper and the portal "About the city", the Kirov administration?

Considering how and on what the Kirov leaders decided to make some extra money, I think this is just the case when our Prosecutor General's Office should work. Yes, and Mr. President, the chief of the "Immortal Regiment", it will not be superfluous to inform. It is said that after informing Putin properly, the prosecutor’s office digs so that the ravines remain.

Apparently, and should do so. So do.

By the way, I am sure that at the time of publication, since I’m not the only one in Russia who was up to date, there would be no information on the Progorod site. On behalf of all who responded to this disgrace, I want to assure the Kirov dealers from the Victory: we have done so many screenshots that it is enough for everyone.

This is our victory. And we, as you know, do not stand behind the price.

Especially, if the price - only letters to the president and the Prosecutor General.

Moreover, I am sure that among those who have read and commented there will be more than one person who will support this point of view. So, a letter from the "Military Review" with a complaint to the frank villains from Kirov will be considered collective.

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  1. ovod84
    ovod84 April 25 2016 07: 11
    +30
    Hmm words, why are the Kirovites patriots silent about this, if everything is there as it is written in the article.
    1. Zoldat_A
      Zoldat_A April 25 2016 07: 24
      +167
      Quote: ovod84
      Well words why are the Kirovites silent about this patriots, if everything is as it is written in the article.

      They are silent - because, in fact, "we will not stand behind the price."

      An ordinary funeral is a tragedy for people, and the disgust of all stripes makes loot on someone else's grief. I understand that both the work of a carpenter, and the work of an excavator, and the work of the driver of a hearse must be paid. But LABOR, and not greed, when all this shameless gang knows that people have grief and people will give everything to worthily carry a loved one ...

      So here - people will give a pitiful 500 rubles to honor the memory of their fathers and grandfathers, they will not fall apart. And the liberal youth, brought up by democracy on the idea that loot is above all else, is ready to chop cabbage from anything ... They were taught this way for 25 years. Democracy taught, "freedom" taught, the IMF taught, "Western values" taught "... So they taught.

      Lenin once said that "the Party is the mind, honor and conscience of our era." Over the past 25 years, neither that party, nor intelligence, nor honor, nor conscience has become. And the current ones - "Loot replaces the mind, honor and conscience of THEIR era" ... God willing, Their era will end someday ... I will not see, so even the grandchildren will survive ... I would like to believe ...

      And those who make money in memory, do not scold and do not judge - it is necessary to PRESS ...
      1. Victor Demchenko
        Victor Demchenko April 25 2016 07: 47
        +43
        Quote: Zoldat_A

        And those who make money in memory, do not scold and do not judge - it is necessary to PRESS ...

        Dear Zoldat_A! You will be held accountable under the Law of the Russian Federation for calls for extremist activity and lynching against citizens who are completely loyal to "our" government repeat
        Well, now seriously: you are my brother! just touch such a foam, there will be immediately defenders of other liberal trash that enters paradise on our hump WITHOUT LABOR! here you are for appeals to pressure trash without trial and investigation to attract - like two fingers on the asphalt, and that would take this trash by the genitals - our "law enforcement officers" have a thin gut. and Roman writes correctly: They say that after informing Putin properly, the prosecutor’s office digs so that the ravines remain.
        hi
        1. Zoldat_A
          Zoldat_A April 25 2016 08: 01
          +50
          Quote: Viktor Demchenko
          here you are attracted for appeals to the pressure of trash without trial and investigation - like two fingers on the asphalt, and to take this trash by the genitals - this is our "law enforcement" guts

          I haven’t seen this in my city. And then to light up between the eyes of the hand would not flinch ... And then let them judge! Just think, for petty hooliganism a couple of years conditionally ... Who needs me, old stump, to untwist me in full? Moreover, if you compare what they would get for with an extract from my personal file from the military registration and enlistment office. But the soul would be fresh ...
          1. cniza
            cniza April 25 2016 08: 12
            +14
            Quote: ovod84
            Hmm words, why are the Kirovites patriots silent about this, if everything is there as it is written in the article.


            First I read and did not want to comment, then re-read many questions, I understand Belykh, Gaidar and others, but where are the people who swallow it silently? , except the author, that everyone else in Kirov agrees? maybe someone from Kirov? or those who know the situation?
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            2. Aleksander
              Aleksander April 25 2016 08: 28
              +16
              Quote: cniza
              but where are the people who swallow it silently?

              Who reads these administration sites? And they will read it, you never know what fools are published and printed by the authorities? Not enough nerves for all the nonsense. "Immortal regiment" is a permitted popular march-WHO can prohibit to come or not let?
              But it’s important to taunt an affair, once you’ve caught it.

              PS you look how wild disfigured Russian language in this announcement, as if NERUSSK wrote ... request
              1. midivan
                midivan April 25 2016 13: 54
                +8
                Quote: Aleksander
                PS You look, how wildly mutilated the Russian language in this announcement, as if NERussky wrote ...

                you probably mean it- Our goal is different! It is important that those whose lives were at the cost of Victory stand on the same line that day, be the center of attention. This is the main thing. If you look at this scribble from the point of view of an ordinary mechanic, it turns out that it’s important that those whose lives were at the cost of Victory, that is, they have the main thing to show how many lives were put for Victory, the usual course of the liberals is to blame the GK for their main tricks. Zhukov (women are still giving birth), in general, ordinary creatures are bending their own and still dough are trying to earn on this, bury lively reptiles in ravines am
            3. svd-xnumx
              svd-xnumx April 25 2016 18: 44
              +4
              First I read and did not want to comment, then re-read many questions, I understand Belykh, Gaidar and others, but where are the people who swallow it silently? , except the author, that everyone else in Kirov agrees? maybe someone from Kirov? or those who know the situation?
              Not all people swallow silently, there are those who ask questions. Here is a comment in that same Kirov newspaper, the editor of which, lo and behold, turns out to be the coordinator of the Immortal Regiment in Kirov

              Vladislav
              Best commentary
              25 April 2016, 09: 25

              And if people come to the march with their posters and without invitations, will the cops screw them, or what?


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              Maria Senilova
              25 April 2016, 16: 56
              In response to user comment:

              And if people come to the march with their posters and without invitations, will the cops screw them, or what?

              You can come with your posters. But without invitations you will not be allowed into the square. Invitations are issued free of charge until May 6, their number is limited to 4000. One invitation for two.


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              Vladimir
              25 April 2016, 17: 07

              It’s your will - in the 45th to Berlin, to the Reichstag, invitation cards of 500 Reichsmarks would be strictly limited to give out ... completely fucked up!


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              remarks
              25 April 2016, 17: 30

              Can I get in line with a picture of my grandfather? Not at the theater?


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              Evgeny Dubrovsky
              25 April 2016, 18: 16

              the organizers of such outrageous lawlessness will be judged, it is 100%


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              Evgeny Dubrovsky
              25 April 2016, 18: 19

              http://ivakin-alexey.livejournal.com/999376.html"Написал в штаб "Бессмертного полка" письмо.Предложили обратиться к координатору в Кирове.Шутка юмора вот в чем... Координатор - Михаил Анненков - один из директоров RNT-MEDIA, управляет этой самой желтой газетенкой "ПРОгород-Киров". Так то. И эти рыночные либерасты вещают про коррупцию?З.Ы. Написал заявление в прокуратуру. "

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          3. GriggoT
            GriggoT April 25 2016 17: 08
            +6
            I think there is an even more important point - to divert attention to expenses, recording, etc., and in the end to report that there is not enough in Kirov, and young people do not go, and no one is particularly interested in the event, in short, " everything is so simple "!
        2. vic58
          vic58 April 25 2016 09: 41
          +21
          Sorry, could not resist hi
        3. Old old
          Old old April 25 2016 23: 37
          +2
          Dear Zoldat_A! You will be held accountable under the Law of the Russian Federation for calls for extremist activity and lynching against citizens who are completely loyal to "our" government

          How to look ...
          "Why do we need power if it does not want to know the situation as it is on the ground, does not take any measures and does not hear people?" - Vladimir Putin, October 22, 2013, http://www.interfax.ru/russia/336375.
          PS I would also make the prosecutor's office work so constantly, and not like a "proud bird that flies only after a kick"!
        4. Katman
          Katman April 26 2016 21: 01
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          There is one caveat. I hope the site is not naive. Letters to the President go through purgatory. I know from my own experience. As the saying goes, the Office writes: "Saw, Shura, saw, she is golden"
      2. ava09
        ava09 April 25 2016 08: 07
        +22
        Quote: Zoldat_A
        Lenin once said that "the Party is the mind, honor and conscience of our era." Over the past 25 years, neither that party, nor intelligence, nor honor, nor conscience has become.

        It seems like an adult, but the mind is incoherent. "That party" ended "Mind, Honor and Conscience" when the delegates of the 20th Congress applauded the traitor-Trotskyist Khrushch, who "exposed" the cult of PERSONALITY. The "devil's caste" - the party nomenklatura - came to power and confidently led the USSR to collapse and chaos. So, "That Party" ceased to exist much earlier, its crisis came with the death of Stalin in 1953, its funeral took place at the beginning of 1956 at the 20th Congress. Otherwise, there would have been no "collapse" of the USSR.
        Quote: Zoldat_A
        And those who make money in memory, do not scold and do not judge - it is necessary to PRESS ...

        I completely agree with this. In general, we must start to work, and not "make money".
        1. Zoldat_A
          Zoldat_A April 25 2016 08: 34
          +33
          Quote: ava09
          Quote: Zoldat_A
          Lenin once said that "the Party is the mind, honor and conscience of our era." Over the past 25 years, neither that party, nor intelligence, nor honor, nor conscience has become.

          It seems to be an adult, but the mind is incoherent.

          Age, probably ...

          And about THAT party ... I found not only the time when the TA party "applauded the traitor-Trotskyist Khrushch" ... I found those who went on the attack with the words "Please consider me a communist." My father and grandfather joined the party at the front. He himself received his party card together with the order. So, because of the chameleons-adaptations and various Humpbacked-Yeltsins, the whole party is easily tarnished with tar ... In any case, the current "leading and directing" took from THAT party all the lowest and dirtiest, forgetting about those who asked to count before the battle their communists. And the right to spit in the TU party still needs to be earned. I deserve it - for business trips and hospitals. And I will not spit.
          1. 37 year
            37 year April 25 2016 10: 50
            -17%
            Quote: Zoldat_A
            So because of the chameleons-adaptors and various Humpback-Yeltsins, the whole batch of tar is easy to smear

            The whole batch? All 25 million careerists? Go down already, starting at 70- none in his right mind did not believe in "building communism in the USSR"!
            They went to the party only for the blat and only because otherwise it was impossible to make a normal career, or even achieve an elementary standard of living.
            1. alicante11
              alicante11 April 25 2016 11: 13
              +16
              They went to the party only for the blat and only because otherwise it was impossible to make a normal career, or even achieve an elementary standard of living.


              There were some. But, as you correctly pointed out, 25 million careerists is nonsense. My mother was in the party, a nurse-attendant. She "made a career" a lot, she didn't even get housing. And his father, a non-partisan, got an apartment and even taking into account the fact that he was a "renegade". He was a member of the city executive committee of the Komsomol, but refused to join the party. And there were no problems with work either, and I had access to the secret and went to Bulgaria. So there is no need to say that those who were not members of the party could not achieve a normal standard of living.
              1. 37 year
                37 year April 25 2016 11: 51
                -11%
                Quote: alicante11
                But, as you rightly pointed out, 25 million careerists is nonsense.

                This is nonsense in world history, but for "communist" regimes it is the harsh truth of a harsh life.
                Quote: alicante11
                So it is not necessary to say that whoever was not a member of the party could not achieve a normal standard of living.

                Yeah, of course, write yourself that your father "was in the city executive committee of the Komsomol," but the connection with the receipt of an apartment pretends not to see!
                1. alicante11
                  alicante11 April 25 2016 15: 06
                  0
                  This is nonsense in world history, but for "communist" regimes it is the harsh truth of a harsh life.


                  Type to communists historical patterns are not applicable?


                  Yeah, of course, write yourself that your father "was in the city executive committee of the Komsomol," but the connection with the receipt of an apartment pretends not to see!


                  I don’t see, he left for KIIGA right after school, and when he returned, he didn’t join the party, despite the fact that he was asked to do this, he had his previous "merits", and it was too late for the Komsomol. So he had no connection with party structures.
            2. V.ic
              V.ic April 25 2016 12: 31
              +12
              Quote: 37 years old
              Smile already

              Expressions choose ... Zoldat_A he clearly indicated his position and point of view, but from you only high and low.
              1. 37 year
                37 year April 25 2016 12: 54
                -14%
                Quote: V.ic
                Zoldat_A clearly defined his position and point of view

                This "position" has not been relevant since 91.
                As early as 25 years there has been no censorship, the Iron Curtain fell and people learned how they lived in the West and how they existed under the "communists", but the descendants of the "guardians" will not calm down.
                I sincerely do not understand who all these people are who have not understood anything about "communism" over the past 25 years of development and progress.
                Quote: ava09
                In general, we must start to work, and not "make money".

                You see!
                A person does not even understand that people work only in order to receive money.
                And for food (as under Stalin) only slaves work!
                1. V.ic
                  V.ic April 25 2016 14: 13
                  +11
                  Quote: 37 years old
                  I sincerely do not understand

                  Well, It's your problems!
                  Quote: 37 years old
                  Who are all these people who, over the past 25 years of development and progress, have not understood anything about "communism"?

                  Well, what kind of "development and progress" and the last 25 years have been in the Russian Federation? Where is our space station Mir? Where is our cutting edge science? Where is our best education in the world, petty replaced by a Western surrogate? The Russian youth team at the mathematics tournament this year did not take ANY gold medal. They suddenly started talking about "import substitution", thus recognizing that industry and agriculture, with the exception of individual enterprises, were driven (within the time period you specified) by liberal rulers into a deep cesspool.
                  Quote: 37 years old
                  people only work to get money.

                  Actually, in order to get money, you first need to have / produce a product that another part of humanity needs. So the correct formula for a normal society is: "commodity - money - commodity". You and others like you have a complete "massaraksh" / concept from the book "Inhabited Island" by A.N. and B.N. Strugatskikh / ... Your formula: "money - goods - money". You have a world inside out.
        2. 37 year
          37 year April 25 2016 10: 43
          -30%
          Quote: ava09
          "That Party" has run out of "Mind, Honor and Conscience"

          They ended mainly at 37, if they were at all before.
          Quote: ava09
          "exposing" the cult of PERSONALITY.

          It’s more correct to say that he publicly condemned the fascist Stalinist regime, which destroyed the best Russian people by millions!
          Tens of millions of unhappy, warped destinies, the mentality of a whole nation, mutilated for decades!
          But you, apparently, do not understand this, a descendant of an illiterate rotter!
          1. alicante11
            alicante11 April 25 2016 11: 40
            +16
            It’s more correct to say that he publicly condemned the fascist Stalinist regime, which destroyed the best Russian people by millions!


            You are no less than our veterans owe your life to this regime. The fact that your question was not resolved in the gas chamber of the fascist camp or with the wave of a samurai sword.

            Tens of millions of unhappy, warped fates


            80 percent of which had previously misrepresented the fate of millions of others and was completely deserved.

            But you, apparently, do not understand this, a descendant of an illiterate rotter!


            But this is an insult that characterizes you very well.
            1. 37 year
              37 year April 25 2016 12: 03
              -19%
              Quote: alicante11
              You are no less than our veterans owe your life to this regime.

              Nonsense!
              2 of my great-grandfathers and 2 great-grandmothers (that is, 50%) fell victim to the regime, another great-grandfather was robbed of business and land.
              My grandmother, even after 91, was afraid to say who her parents were, she sat in her so much FEAR in all my life. And her sister, having miraculously survived the blockade of Petrograd, selling family jewelry, one of her necklaces, previously exchanged for food, then she saw Zhdanov at her lover.
              This mode can only be hated.
              Quote: alicante11
              The fact that your question was not resolved in the gas chamber of the fascist camp

              Do you really think that Hitler planned to destroy all the Russians?
              Therefore, he armed an entire army of the Russian opposition in the amount of about one million people ?! laughing
              Quote: alicante11
              or with a wave of a samurai sword.

              For Japan, say thanks to the USA! By the way, you owe them grandmothers for land-lease. When will you give it back?
              Quote: alicante11
              80 percent of which had previously misrepresented the fate of millions of others and was completely deserved.

              You are not only an envious, but also a scoundrel!
              1. Mikado
                Mikado April 25 2016 12: 33
                +19
                Quote: 37 year

                Do you really think that Hitler planned to destroy all the Russians?
                Therefore, he armed an entire army of the Russian opposition in the amount of about one million people ?! laughing

                You are not only an envious, but also a scoundrel!


                That is, we now call the Vlasovites "opposition"? wassat
                What a syllable!

                Change the dies you throw. And nickname at the same time, he gives you away with giblets. And do not insult others.
                1. 37 year
                  37 year April 25 2016 13: 01
                  -15%
                  Quote: Mikado
                  That is, we now call the Vlasovites "opposition"?

                  Those who are called enemies of the people are those because of whom all these people were surrounded, the leadership of the USSR of that time, because of the incompetence and lack of talent of which about 35 million Soviet citizens were killed on the battlefields!
                  This is almost 7 times more than in Germany, which also fought on other fronts during the years of WWII.
                  But you don’t care, 500 rubles for a portrait in a laminate worry you more.
                  1. Diana Ilyina
                    Diana Ilyina April 25 2016 13: 58
                    +28
                    Quote: 37 year
                    Those who are called enemies of the people are those because of whom all these people were surrounded, the leadership of the USSR of that time, because of the incompetence and lack of talent of which about 35 million Soviet citizens were killed on the battlefields!
                    This is almost 7 times more than in Germany, which also fought on other fronts during the years of WWII.
                    But you don’t care, 500 rubles for a portrait in a laminate worry you more.


                    Citizen provocateur, all your arguments and promises are sewn with white thread! All your lies are visible with the naked eye. This is especially touching "because of whose incompetence and mediocrity, about 35 million Soviet citizens were killed on the battlefields"... This is simply a masterpiece of your stupidity, mediocrity (as a provocateur) and incompetence. The losses of the Soviet army were comparable to the losses of the Wehrmacht, and all the rest were civilians destroyed by the Nazis. Also amused about your imaginary grandmothers and grandfathers "repressed", in your sick mind, "bloody gebnyoy".

                    I have only one question about this: you simply don’t have a conscience or are you so afraid of neither God nor the devil that you are ready to trample the memory of your ancestors ?! Or are you a complete orphan, "Ivan does not remember kinship" ?!

                    One can only be surprised at how the earth bears such moral freaks as you and your kind!
                    1. Mikado
                      Mikado April 25 2016 14: 19
                      +7
                      Quote: Diana Ilyina

                      One can only be surprised at how the earth bears such moral freaks as you and your kind!


                      Diana, do not let the words of this non-comrade through your soul, please. These are not his words, this is a set of standard stamps, stamps, stamps ...
                      Although .. He remembers the relationship, even remembers who slept with whom, I mean "his grandmother's necklace on Zhdanov's mistress." Wow, how vindictive!lol

                      Your nerves dear to us all are not worth it. love
                      1. Diana Ilyina
                        Diana Ilyina April 25 2016 14: 28
                        +12
                        Quote: Mikado
                        Your nerves dear to us all are not worth it. love


                        God forbid me to be nervous about this individual! I also liked the necklace, please note that his "grandmother" was "starving" in besieged Petrograd, and not in Leningrad! Something I have not heard that in our history Petrograd was in a blockade!

                        love love love This is for you separately from me, for taking care of my nerves!
                      2. Mikado
                        Mikado April 25 2016 15: 14
                        +1
                        Have mercy, how can you not take care! hi Thanks you! Such comrades suck out our energy, which could be spent on much more useful things. Culturally send and forget. wink
                        Although .. about grandmother’s necklace, he could have come up with a more original one. For example, I personally saw him on Zhdanov! good
                2. Mikado
                  Mikado April 25 2016 14: 02
                  +8
                  Quote: 37 year

                  Those who are called enemies of the people are those because of whom all these people were surrounded, the leadership of the USSR of that time, because of the incompetence and lack of talent of which about 35 million Soviet citizens were killed on the battlefields!
                  This is almost 7 times more than in Germany, which also fought on other fronts during the years of WWII.
                  But you don’t care, 500 rubles for a portrait in a laminate worry you more.


                  You took the numbers from the ceiling, or who suggested?
                  We are not concerned with laminate flooring. It discusses the problems of attitudes to the memory of individual individuals. And your patriotism, it seems, is to nurture the USSR and Stalin personally. I’ll give a little hint: with all the mistakes, but if it weren’t for Stalin to rule the country, but for people close to you in spirit, we would not have won this war.
                  Oh, yes, Hitler did not want to destroy us (these are your thoughts). He apparently wanted to "integrate" us in Europe. At least those who would have survived. In the role of slaves. And what, such a not bad offer, tempting to eerie! lol Why didn’t we agree ?! Again, the damned Stalin interfered, scared, crap! crying

                  People on this site are going to communicate with each other in discussing topics of interest. Even if expressing his disagreement in the discussion. But this is our communication

                  You tumble in dirty boots with those slogans that we do not share. It seems to me, after all, you messed up the site ..
                  1. Diana Ilyina
                    Diana Ilyina April 25 2016 14: 20
                    +12
                    Quote: Mikado
                    You tumble in dirty boots with those slogans that we do not share. It seems to me, after all, you messed up the site ..


                    The fact of the matter is that I did not mix it up. Pay attention to the registration date "April 25, 2016"! That is, a person specially came to provoke a local audience and there are more and more people like him on the site. Draw conclusions. In my opinion, the VO is subjected to targeted attacks by trolls and on the eve of Victory Day there will be more and more of them, and the comments are more and more disgusting!

                    I urge the local community to deal with such nonhumans and as soon as possible send these individuals into oblivion, so as not to dirty our grandfathers’s memory with such insults!
                    1. Mikado
                      Mikado April 25 2016 15: 16
                      +2
                      We are already immune to such stuffing. Although admins could overwrite such users. So, just in case, so that the eyes do not callus.
                    2. gladcu2
                      gladcu2 April 25 2016 16: 23
                      -10%
                      Diana Ilyina

                      I will use you to evaluate the following situation.

                      The action "immortal regiment" was a warning action to the west. Prevention of a possible escalation by the West, the transition of a political conflict into a real one, with Russia. A warning to the west Possibly in Syria or Ukraine.

                      The warning was that despite the huge contribution of the West to the destruction of the unity of Russia, the main goal was achieved. The people of the country are ready to stand under the banner of the government.

                      Therefore, it is necessary to draw the following conclusions. It is necessary to stop the "immortal regiment" action so that this action does not become a tradition. Otherwise, tradition levels out the weapon of political struggle against attempts at external influence on the state.

                      The "immortal regiment" action should not become a tradition, otherwise it will turn from an action into a routine. This action must remain as a weapon of political war.
                    3. Diana Ilyina
                      Diana Ilyina April 25 2016 17: 08
                      +10
                      I didn't quite understand what I should evaluate in this case ?! It is obvious that the West will try to denigrate the "Immortal Regiment". But it is also obvious that they will not be able to diminish the significance and scale of this action. For many years now I have been walking with a portrait of my grandfather to Atayev Hill, where celebrations in honor of Victory Day are held and every year there are more and more people. And after last year's march across the country, the only thing left for the West is to whine and snapping its teeth with its tail between its legs.
                    4. gladcu2
                      gladcu2 April 25 2016 18: 56
                      -11%
                      Diana Ilyina

                      Nobody is going to denigrate the stock. What a strange question?

                      The Immortal Regiment should remain an action and not become a tradition.

                      I will explain in more detail.

                      May 9 is Victory Day. The holiday is traditional, it is not a promotion. This is a holiday. If the immortal regiment is made a tradition, it will not become a weapon of political confrontation. These weapons must be preserved for future generations.

                      We must think before, so that the children do not have to go into a real battle, but hold a demonstration. This action must be carried out at critical moments for the country.

                      Those who put cons to me are probably not very smart. But this is understandable.

                      If everyone were smart, then the rich would not be.
                    5. Diana Ilyina
                      Diana Ilyina April 26 2016 08: 55
                      +10
                      Quote: gladcu2
                      The Immortal Regiment should remain an action and not become a tradition.

                      Those who put cons to me are probably not very smart. But this is understandable.


                      Well then, catch me and a fat minus! In our tradition, we can celebrate May 1 and 9, we still celebrate November 7, not November 4, and now you will tell us what to do as a tradition and what not? The only caveat in this case is that we must not allow the "Immortal Regiment" to become a formality, a baneful action, according to which officials will report on the "growth" of patriotism among young people! This will kill any bright idea! And in the fact that this will become a tradition, only a provocateur or a traitor to Russia's interests can find cons! So it’s up to you, with the Canadian flag above the nickname, to tell us how to honor our glorious ancestors.

                      By the way, it was precisely in Canada that the majority of the Bandera and Vlasov deficiencies settled, who managed to escape the just retribution of the Soviet people! Are you by any chance not one of the descendants of those same disadvantages ?!
                    6. gladcu2
                      gladcu2 April 26 2016 16: 58
                      -1
                      Diana Ilyina

                      I’ll try to explain again.

                      Minuses. This is such a thing. But the truth is more important.

                      The "Immortal Regiment" action is a political demonstration. This political demonstration showed the unity of the country and the government. And possibly preventing a third world war.

                      If from year to year repeat this action. Then from a political demonstration it will turn into a traditional procession.
                      Then this action will lose all its meaning. Loses all its value. You can not level such a warning weapon.

                      It is not joke.

                      The fact that May Day and Victory Day remain the same and thank God. The fact that after the May Day parade, according to a certified tradition, someone, for example, visits the local history museum, this is wonderful. The fact that on May 9 everyone gathers in a culture park where a military orchestra plays, and then everyone goes to tell their relatives in a cemetery. This is a generally accepted norm.

                      But again, note that the value of a political action is only that it was involved in time. If you make a routine, a tradition from an action, then another time there will be nothing to demonstrate.

                      Only from this point of view.
    2. alicante11
      alicante11 April 25 2016 15: 14
      +5
      2 of my great-grandfathers and 2 great-grandmothers (that is, 50%) fell victim to the regime, another great-grandfather was robbed of business and land.


      That is, in Russia we had only 8 people, if 4 of your relative was 50% :)?
      For example, I have no repressed people in all my relatives.

      My grandmother, even after the 91 year, was afraid to say who her parents were, she sat so fearfully for her life in her.


      Well, in old age and this does not happen :).

      And her sister, having miraculously survived the blockade of Petrograd, selling family jewelry, one of her necklaces, previously exchanged for food, then she saw Zhdanov at her lover.


      And there is even evidence, or the source of the OBS (one grandmother said)? There in Leningrad then many people made a profit, except for "Zhdanov's mistresses".

      Do you really think that Hitler planned to destroy all the Russians?


      Not immediately, but gradually. Why are you so sure that you would be among those who would survive? Were there ancestors on that side?

      Therefore, he armed an entire army of the Russian opposition in the amount of about one million people ?!


      And what was there to do, their men ended, and someone needed to fight.

      For Japan, say thanks to the USA! By the way, you owe them grandmothers for land-lease. When will you give it back?


      And what, without amers could not cope? And the grandmother immediately gave - a piece of gold.
  • Diana Ilyina
    Diana Ilyina April 25 2016 11: 41
    +24
    Quote: 37 year
    But you, apparently, do not understand this, a descendant of an illiterate rotter!


    It began again, "the descendant of the guard", "bloody gebnya", "fascist Stalin", "bloody boys" ... Urgent doctors, the patient is bad, we are losing him!

    And you are apparently a descendant of the "repressed" Trotsky ?! Judging by your nickname and flag, no psychiatrist will help you, only an ice ax!
    1. 37 year
      37 year April 25 2016 12: 07
      -15%
      Quote: Diana Ilyina
      It began again, "a descendant of the guard", "bloody gebnya", "fascist Stalin", "bloody boys"

      Why are you doing this? Do you want to say that the Stalin regime was not fascist? laughing
      Quote: Diana Ilyina
      And you are apparently a descendant of the "repressed" Trotsky ?!

      Have you read at least one of his books? Read, tons of emotions are guaranteed!
      1. Diana Ilyina
        Diana Ilyina April 25 2016 12: 28
        +19
        Quote: 37 year
        Why are you doing this? Do you want to say that the Stalin regime was not fascist? laughing

        Have you read at least one of his books? Read, tons of emotions are guaranteed!


        I want to say that you are sick all over the head. The same patients now run the bloody ball in Ukraine. Did you come to us for an hour not from the "censor" ?!
      2. V.ic
        V.ic April 25 2016 12: 46
        +6
        Quote: 37 years old
        Do you want to say that the Stalin regime was not fascist?

        Exactly! It was Hitler, dear to you, who borrowed the color of the flag from the Bolsheviks, defiling it with a spider swastika. Those who shouted about "red-brown" in the 90s are dandruff from testicles. Trotsky.
        Quote: 37 years old
        Have you read at least one of his books? Read, tons of emotions are guaranteed!

        I read his "My Life" / immediately the analogy caught my eye: "Mein Kampf" /, which was published in Berlin in 1930. So who stole the title from whom?
      3. Pre-cat
        Pre-cat April 25 2016 14: 03
        +9
        Quote: 37 years old
        Have you read at least one of his books? Read, tons of emotions are guaranteed!

        You know read. Tons of emotions were definitely. how much he hated Russia and the people living in it! With what squeamishness he belonged to the common people, considering his brushwood suitable for a bonfire on which he, as a chef, would cook something that he and world Zionism would like! And yes, I agree, the doctor will not help you anymore. Guillotine is the best remedy not only for dandruff.
  • Taygerus
    Taygerus April 25 2016 11: 49
    +6
    uncle, are you D.W.R.A.K.?
  • bovig
    bovig April 25 2016 13: 05
    +9
    Quote: 37 year
    Quote: ava09
    "That Party" has run out of "Mind, Honor and Conscience"

    They ended mainly at 37, if they were at all before.
    Quote: ava09
    "exposing" the cult of PERSONALITY.

    It’s more correct to say that he publicly condemned the fascist Stalinist regime, which destroyed the best Russian people by millions!
    Tens of millions of unhappy, warped destinies, the mentality of a whole nation, mutilated for decades!
    But you, apparently, do not understand this, a descendant of an illiterate rotter!

    You remind us of Svanidze (a woeful historian of a poor student) and others like him ... If you smack this nonsense out of ignorance, then start with self-education, and if by intent, then do not reproach your own fate, which is still "enough" for you for such words. .. Remember, the spoken word is not an empty phrase and, above all, for the one who utters it ...
  • bear
    bear April 25 2016 13: 33
    +7
    37 year old NL
    You probably lived in 37 g, or read some sort of little book of a western afftor.
    Remove the foam from the company, and stop hysteria.

    But you, apparently, do not understand this, a descendant of an illiterate rotter!
    Well, you give? and still intellect portray!

    You better read the history of America, England, Europe, how many millions on their conscience, and then throw tantrums here. Although yes, you won’t be paid for it.
    1. Ezhaak
      Ezhaak April 25 2016 15: 00
      +3
      Quote: bear
      Remove the foam from the company, and stop hysteria.
      It’s hard to argue with an epileptic. He is ready with foam at the mouth to prove his own point of view. Not mine, copied.
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  • Nikita Gromov
    Nikita Gromov April 25 2016 09: 34
    +9
    Where liberals are in power, there will always be abominations, filth and decay. This is an obvious and proven fact. Liberasty is an open and frank enemy of Russia and the Russian people.
  • Al1977
    Al1977 April 25 2016 10: 41
    +1
    Quote: Zoldat_A
    So here too - people will give a measly 500 rubles to honor the memory of their fathers and grandfathers, will not fall apart. And the liberal youth, brought up by democracy on the idea that loot is above all else, is ready to chop cabbage from anything ... They were taught this way for 25 years. Democracy taught, "freedom" taught, the IMF taught, "Western values" taught "... So they taught.

    Children always take an example from elders. From parents, from neighbors, from officials, the president and the government. Or do these children live in another country, and you in another? And how do you know that they are liberals, and not United Russia?
  • shtanko.49
    shtanko.49 April 25 2016 14: 57
    0
    The true face of capitalism and our liberals, their time will come, the people will wake up and crush them like bugs.
    1. Al1977
      Al1977 April 25 2016 16: 24
      0
      Quote: shtanko.49
      The true face of capitalism and our liberals, their time will come, the people will wake up and crush them like bugs.

      Do you call for one part of the population to go to kill another? The Stalinist went to the democrat, a traveler to the liberal, children to the parents? So you see the bright future of Russia ??? You are either a short-sighted, primitive little man, or a Troll provocateur.
      And children need to be educated, to set an example. It is a matter of proving that we are human beings, not cattle. Russia will stand in unity, in morality and decency, and not in inciting discord over political and other discord.
  • Corsair
    Corsair April 25 2016 16: 08
    +3
    Quote: Zoldat_A
    So here - people will give a miserable 500 rubles to honor the memory of fathers and grandfathers, they will not fall apart.

    Printing an A4 sheet from a digital medium costs 10-15 rubles in many offices (somewhere even cheaper), cardboard is also thought to be inexpensive. So there is no salary here, there is a desperate desire to chop up "cabbage" - you are absolutely right "Salvage replaces everything for them", I am almost sure that the present creakles and "successful youth" came up with this idea.
  • Pavel Tsybai
    Pavel Tsybai April 25 2016 07: 26
    +2
    If this is true, then just tin, for the sake of the dough, you are ready for anything.
    1. Averias
      Averias April 25 2016 07: 35
      +15
      True, here is a screen from their site, I'm fucking fucking awesome. What kind of people are these?
      Not only is Kirov famous for its roads, or rather for their absence, but also this. Well, it would be good for the needs of the city, but better for the veterans themselves, they spent this money. So no, someone found a way to fill a pocket.
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      2. the villain
        the villain April 25 2016 12: 07
        +3
        Quote: Averias
        . So no, someone found a way to fill a pocket.

        I’m scribbling from the hedgehog’s boot, and my hand reaches out involuntarily for anything, there’s nothing sacred (a terrible curse) am
    2. Nikolay K
      Nikolay K April 25 2016 09: 27
      -45%
      What loot, 500 rubles? So this is for making a portrait. You try to make it yourself or order it privately, I doubt it will come out cheaper. It's just that in many cities the action of the Immortal Regiment is financed by the Kremlin through the Popular Front and other NGOs. In this case, the production of portraits was free, but you could see what some of the participants did with these portraits. Here, the region is oppositional, therefore it does not receive any "freebies" from the Kremlin. On the contrary, Belykh understands perfectly well that he is being closely watched and, if something happens, he will be happy to solder inappropriate use of budget funds even for such a good action. So it is necessary to carry out it at the personal expense of the participants themselves, indeed as a TOP action. But no, all the same there were court jesters who, like the well-known animals, will find dirt everywhere.
      1. Mikhail3
        Mikhail3 April 25 2016 09: 59
        +19
        Quote: Nikolai K
        You try to make it yourself or order production in private,

        I will try. I’ll run a photo print on the printer. I’m not going to hang a portrait on the wall, but I want to go with him in a procession. The printout will cost me rubles in 10 somewhere. A3 format color well in a hundred. The rest 400 rubles? Monetization, yeah. Ugh.
        1. Nikolay K
          Nikolay K April 25 2016 10: 43
          -28%
          The photo needs to be laminated and attached to a wooden frame with a handle. Yeah, a hundred rubles. Do you want to go with the printed sheet is up to you. It seems to me that the memory of our grandfathers is worthy not to save on it.
          1. 37 year
            37 year April 25 2016 10: 59
            -16%
            Quote: Nikolai K
            It seems to me that the memory of our grandfathers is worthy not to save on it.

            That's it.
            Do you want to carry beautiful portrait of YOUR grandfather, pay YOUR money.
            But unfortunately, many of our citizens still do not understand this logic, they are better free they’ll stick a ribbon sticker on the car and roll it dirty until winter sad
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          3. Corsair
            Corsair April 25 2016 16: 57
            +3
            Quote: Nikolai K
            The photo needs to be laminated and attached to a wooden frame with a handle. Yeah, a hundred rubles. Do you want to go with the printed sheet is up to you. It seems to me that the memory of our grandfathers is worthy not to save on it.

            belay Well, a valuable wood frame, huh? luxury paper, a film of a type more expensive, in fact, which one will be glued and, if possible, cheaper.

            Look here Galimia Ikea (not for the sake of advertising)
            WANKIVA Frame IKEA
            99.-
            product dimensions
            Frame, depth: 1.1 cm
            Frame height: 44 cm
            For picture width: 30 cm
            Picture, height: 40 cm
            Frame Width: 34 cm
            This is a pancake (! - another word to ask for) already with glass and cardboard frame!
            Order schools for labor lessons (it’s worthless to support foreigners) - the students will do it for free for such a thing - at the same time learn how you can chip in children for 20-40 rubles per frame with a pen to municipalities, you can local joiners - they also rivet these frames for 20-30 rubles apiece.
            1. 73petia
              73petia April 25 2016 18: 00
              +2
              "Oxis"! In all schools, all workshops have long been closed. There are no labor lessons. There are lessons in "technology". All learning takes place "verbally".
              1. Corsair
                Corsair April 26 2016 10: 02
                0
                Quote: 73petia
                "Oxis"! In all schools, all workshops have long been closed. There are no labor lessons. There are lessons in "technology". All learning takes place "verbally".

                belay Yes? In vain they were, it was fun - in the 80s we cut out all kinds of spoons, did stools, I also learned how to work on a milling and carpentry machine. You probably need to learn how to drill the current dunceles, drill, screw them or clamp xs cable, as an option for small things plumbing - they will grow completely armless, okay google without practice - there’s a fucking assistant.
      2. 37 year
        37 year April 25 2016 10: 56
        -14%
        Quote: Nikolai K
        What loot, 500 rubles? So this is for making a portrait.

        Thank you, man, for a clear explanation of what is happening.
        It is absolutely clear that local communists, accustomed to "freebies", do not even want to think that holding any mass event requires money.
        1. bovig
          bovig April 25 2016 15: 28
          +3
          Quote: 37 year
          Quote: Nikolai K
          What loot, 500 rubles? So this is for making a portrait.

          Thank you, man, for a clear explanation of what is happening.
          It is absolutely clear that local communists, accustomed to "freebies", do not even want to think that holding any mass event requires money.

          This is not a clear explanation, but an excuse for the bribery of the authorities. Yes, holding a mass event requires money and for events of a planned nature (and this event is such) there is a corresponding item in any budget of any level. Another thing is, if you need to hold an event and not only write off budget funds for it, but also "cut" some part of it, then they do this!
      3. the villain
        the villain April 25 2016 13: 15
        +13
        Quote: Nikolai K
        You try to make it yourself

        What's the problem? Well, only if someone skipped labor lessons at school, or their hands do not grow from there.


        Quote: Nikolai K
        It’s just that in many cities, the Kremlin’s immortal regiment finances the action through the Popular Front and other NGOs. In this case, the production of portraits was free, but what then some participants did with these portraits you could see.

        More precisely, the activists of which liberal movements puffed up, trying to discredit a good idea, trying once again to splash mud on a holy holiday, mankurts are flawed am
      4. Pre-cat
        Pre-cat April 25 2016 14: 10
        +6
        And the fact that without the attached invitation to the convoy will not be allowed does not bother you?
      5. bovig
        bovig April 25 2016 15: 16
        +3
        Quote: Nikolai K
        What loot, 500 rubles? So this is for making a portrait. You try to make it yourself or order it privately, I doubt it will come out cheaper. It's just that in many cities the action of the Immortal Regiment is financed by the Kremlin through the Popular Front and other NGOs. In this case, the production of portraits was free, but you could see what some of the participants did with these portraits. Here, the region is oppositional, therefore it does not receive any "freebies" from the Kremlin. On the contrary, Belykh understands perfectly well that he is being closely watched and, if something happens, he will be happy to solder inappropriate use of budget funds even for such a good action. So it is necessary to carry out it at the personal expense of the participants themselves, indeed as a TOP action. But no, all the same there were court jesters who, like the well-known animals, will find dirt everywhere.

        All funds from regional and local budgets are earmarked. And this purpose is determined by the legislative assembly at the regional level, or the council of deputies at the local level, but not by the Kremlin! Your "fears" are groundless, like hysteria around '37 ...
      6. lazy
        lazy April 26 2016 04: 12
        +2
        PEOPLE offer by invitation card? yes you are my friend a joker.
  • Andrey Yuryevich
    Andrey Yuryevich April 25 2016 07: 35
    +16
    For some reason, all this does not surprise me. If there is no ideology in the country, when everything is put on the worship of the "golden calf", it will not be like that. the country is already capitalist, this is not the Soviet Union, where respect for veterans was instilled with young snot ... It is on our website that angry words will be heard about scoundrels, so our people on the site are mostly patriotic, and on other resources Look, it will become bad, how much "scum" has grown in the country, for which Russia is not the Motherland, but "Rashka" ...
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      Gomunkul
      Gomunkul April 25 2016 09: 12
      +1
      [quote why all this does not surprise me. In the absence of ideology in the country, when everything is put on the worship of the "golden calf", it will not be like that.]
      Ideology in our modern society is just there, it is just not documented anywhere, and you described it above: - this is the worship of the "golden calf" with all the ensuing consequences. hi
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    1. St Petrov
      St Petrov April 25 2016 14: 15
      +3
      37 years old, I hope you continue the tradition of your glorious family and they will either put you against the wall or instill in you an endless fear of the future)

      Let it be so.

      PS only a clown can believe all the rubbish written by 37

  • dkflbvbh
    dkflbvbh April 25 2016 08: 28
    +2
    As we used to say in childhood (Slavyansk) - "Not all patients were taken away by the war ..."
    1. 37 year
      37 year April 25 2016 11: 00
      -3
      Quote: dkflbvbh
      As we used to say in childhood (Slavyansk) - "Not all patients were taken away by the war ..."

      It would be better if those who said so, the war took away!
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  • siberalt
    siberalt April 25 2016 09: 49
    +1
    For a long time it is necessary to drive into the neck of this Yabloko Belykh. He’s an accomplice of Anal. But at least they gave him a suspended sentence, and this one also rules. am
  • prostorabochiy
    prostorabochiy April 25 2016 09: 50
    +1
    Somehow the article casts doubt on me. The title is simple - a liberalist’s dream.
    And in the text it looks very much like undermining either under the mayor or under the corresponding deputy. Of course, mercantile interests are also not excluded, but .... the fact that the author smacks of interest in a scandal is very similar to a fact.
  • Volzhanin2
    Volzhanin2 April 25 2016 10: 35
    -4
    Quote: ovod84
    Hmm words, why are the Kirovites patriots silent about this, if everything is there as it is written in the article.


    Commerce is used to making money out of everything, where money overshadows both conscience and decency. In Moscow, the production of the Immortal Regiment poster is more expensive than in Kirov.
    Well, for example: http://online.promoushen.ru/printing/prints/ad-posters
    It is estimated at 650 rubles.
  • Altona
    Altona April 25 2016 10: 44
    +2
    Quote: ovod84
    Hmm words, why are the Kirovites patriots silent about this, if everything is there as it is written in the article.

    --------------------
    Is it that yesterday at "Russian Spring" there was an article about the historical forum in the Yeltsin House, there really was a scandal. When pseudo-historians drenched their crust on a wide audience. They called the St.George ribbon an analogue of a handkerchief. So much for the "democratic roizmans". In general, they opened the House of the mentally ill, citizens rejoice.

    http://rusvesna.su/news/1461522493
  • Sobol
    Sobol April 25 2016 11: 01
    +5
    Quote: ovod84
    Hmm words, why are the Kirovites patriots silent about this, if everything is there as it is written in the article.

    Why should I scream? I get up and walk, as last year I went with a portrait of Grandfather, made with my own hands. And I’m not going to pay any 500 rubles. Let them try to stop.
  • Arkhan
    Arkhan April 25 2016 20: 07
    0
    I don’t want to prove anything to you. Just leave it here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQpIZ4SdSUY
    You decide what to do with it.
  • OlegLex
    OlegLex April 26 2016 14: 39
    0
    In exceptional cases (like this one) I start to miss THIRTY-SEVENTH
  • Pasha
    Pasha April 26 2016 19: 34
    0
    ask Whites and Navalny- Shame on fellow countrymen
  • parusnik
    parusnik April 25 2016 07: 14
    +7
    Roman, I fully support ..
  • McLuha-MacLeod
    McLuha-MacLeod April 25 2016 07: 16
    +3
    Well done Roman. He felt the Libers.
  • beer-youk
    beer-youk April 25 2016 07: 19
    +2
    Liberoids in power - woe to the region.
  • Pvi1206
    Pvi1206 April 25 2016 07: 21
    +5
    Of course, you need to remember your past.
    But why is it limited only to the Second World War?
    Politicians come and go. And the cities continue to live.
    Is it really necessary to rename them to the next politician?
    No, of course, for the life of a politician cannot be an example to others. Too much dirt in it ..
    Therefore, it is necessary to restore the old names of cities.
    Kirov is Vyatka
    Ulyanovsk is Simbirsk ...
    1. Zoldat_A
      Zoldat_A April 25 2016 07: 33
      +14
      Quote: Pvi1206
      Kirov is Vyatka
      Ulyanovsk is Simbirsk ...

      The Mindyukino village or the Krasny Serp state farm?

      In Madrid over the past 400 years, NONE of the streets have been renamed ... Either they immediately think what to name, or they don’t want to rewrite history to please every new government and every new ideology ...

      It would not be time for us either to think or not to touch. And then a bacchanalia will go, as in Kaklostan ... Desovetization, decommunization, demonarchization, dedemocratization ... How long can you play with place names, like small children in cubes ????

      I don’t know how the people who live there, but I, for example, neither Ulyanovsk, nor Kirov, nor the Voikovskaya metro station do not jar. We didn’t name it, so it’s not for us to rename it. Or will we rename the city every 80 years?
      1. Aleksander
        Aleksander April 25 2016 08: 16
        +2
        Quote: Zoldat_A
        In Madrid over the past 400 years, NONE of the streets have been renamed ... Either they immediately think what to name, or they don’t want to rewrite history to please every new government and every new ideology


        The Madrid people have acted correctly and wisely! Therefore, Vyatka should be called VYATKA, i.e. as it was originally named by its ancestors. "Voikovskaya", as it was originally called, let it be so (no matter how disgusting it is) ....
    2. Darkness
      Darkness April 25 2016 07: 51
      0
      And Volgograd in Tsaritsyn, right?
      1. Mik13
        Mik13 April 25 2016 08: 00
        +3
        Quote: Darkness
        And Volgograd in Tsaritsyn, right?

        No, really.
        Stalingrad. It was necessary to leave so.
        1. Zoldat_A
          Zoldat_A April 25 2016 08: 09
          +6
          Quote: Mik13
          Quote: Darkness
          And Volgograd in Tsaritsyn, right?

          No, really.
          Stalingrad. It was necessary to leave so.

          From Vipidikiya
          On the site of modern Volgograd between the Sukhoi and the Wet Mechetka there was a Horde settlement with an unknown name, named by Russian immigrants Mosque settlement
          Renamers will go crazy choosing which "historical" name to return ... laughing
          1. your1970
            your1970 April 25 2016 19: 09
            +2
            and everything, as always, is just what you like in the particular moment .....
    3. Gardamir
      Gardamir April 25 2016 10: 47
      +2
      Kirov is Vyatka
      Vyatka is Khlynov.
    4. Flexsus
      Flexsus April 25 2016 11: 20
      +1
      Kirov is Khlynov.
  • Arktidianets
    Arktidianets April 25 2016 07: 22
    +8
    I think here is a finished case for the prosecutor’s office
    1. Zoldat_A
      Zoldat_A April 25 2016 07: 51
      +3
      Quote: Arctidian
      I think here is a finished case for the prosecutor’s office

      And no.

      Human reasons to crush this abomination - above the roof. And legal, oddly enough - no ... Think for yourself - what can they show? Illegal business? And if they have a type of activity "Manufacturing of small-format advertising materials" or something like that?

      Things like, for example, greed, lack of conscience, disregard for the memory of the fallen, disrespect for their country, its history and people - we have the Criminal Code, Unfortunatelyare not punished ....
      1. kotvov
        kotvov April 25 2016 13: 34
        0
        illegal entrepreneurship is possible, and not for admission is not a demonstration-deprivation of a citizen expression of citizenship. You can search, find.
      2. midivan
        midivan April 25 2016 20: 44
        +3
        Quote: Zoldat_A
        . Think for yourself - what can they show? Illegal business?

        smile there would be a "person" and an article would always be found, for example, extortion in especially large ones, restriction of freedom (they are not allowed without their portrait made by them), because there are no official restrictions on the number of participants, and then from the local local to the mayor of the city about non-compliance. desire to fight off yes
  • Fitter65
    Fitter65 April 25 2016 07: 27
    +9
    Quote: ovod84
    Hmm words, why are the Kirovites patriots silent about this, if everything is there as it is written in the article.

    Yes, such patriots can be seen (not to be confused with UAZ-3163) ... But today I tied a new St. George ribbon to myself on the Patriot, removed it and put it in the drawer of the table, on May 9 we’ll meet with friends to make a fire, we’ll remember who gave us, at the cost of his life, the right to live, and we’ll burn old frayed ribbons in a bonfire ... here we have such an unwritten tradition, probably 5-6 years ago, we didn’t throw George’s ribbons ... drinks
    1. Darkness
      Darkness April 25 2016 07: 52
      -2
      Maybe still Guards tapes?
      1. Zoldat_A
        Zoldat_A April 25 2016 08: 41
        +4
        Quote: Darkness
        Maybe still Guards tapes?

        Probably, after all, first of all, St. George ....
        1. Darkness
          Darkness April 25 2016 09: 15
          +3
          We’ve already disassembled a thousand times how and how the St. George and Guard ribbons differ.
          Georgievskaya has nothing to do with Victory.
      2. Egevich
        Egevich April 25 2016 09: 01
        0
        Quote: Darkness
        Maybe still Guards tapes?

        Is it really that important? ...
        1. Darkness
          Darkness April 25 2016 09: 14
          +2
          Do not see the substitution of concepts?
          What does the St. George Ribbon have to do with Victory?
    2. Gardamir
      Gardamir April 25 2016 10: 49
      0
      And I'm on Patriot
      Spell it right, your car is called Patriot
  • Same lech
    Same lech April 25 2016 07: 27
    +3
    To become the center of attention is to pay.


    Business is nothing personal ...

    some people often confuse it with the memory of our heroic ancestors.

    Of course, it was necessary to trace this to the head of KIROV ... unless of course he was not arrogant as a well-known character in IRKUTSK.

    “You forget: I already told you that after the mayor only God speaks. That's it, the meeting is over.


    Mdaaa ... there are certain problems.
  • Holsten
    Holsten April 25 2016 07: 30
    +1
    An interesting approach is to collect fees for participating in a march in support of the memory of a great victory. Maybe in order to have something to pay for participants in shares of the opposite direction?
  • Dam
    Dam April 25 2016 07: 31
    +1
    It sometimes seems to me that it is not necessary to send an investigative committee to Kirov, but a team of deratisators. Gather local authority in the Yeltsin center and hunt like rats. Something hurts at ease, this scum feels there
    1. Darkness
      Darkness April 25 2016 07: 38
      0
      I wonder whose feed?
  • Nyrobsky
    Nyrobsky April 25 2016 07: 38
    +3
    Here it is, a consequence of the liberalization of consciousness of some representatives of the post-Soviet man.
    Everything for sale - mind, honor, conscience, body, memory, country. The main thing is money! Dealers - all dealers.
    In Yekaterinburg, in the Yeltsin Center, they compared the St. George's ribbon with a handkerchief and called the patriots "de bilami" through the mouth of the city mayor.
    Maybe it’s time to start clearing all these city halls from the liberal public, like the Augean stables from shit?
    1. Darkness
      Darkness April 25 2016 07: 54
      +1
      I think we need to start with Moscow. It is hard to believe that these local "princelings" are doing it arbitrarily.
  • Sidel45
    Sidel45 April 25 2016 07: 48
    +1
    What is pop, such is parish, so there is nothing to be surprised at all. Liberals - they are everywhere liberals.
  • 72jora72
    72jora72 April 25 2016 07: 50
    +1
    Or maybe it's time to take the administration of the glorious city of Kirov by the nostrils ???
  • cap
    cap April 25 2016 07: 51
    +1
    This is our victory. And we, as you know, do not stand behind the price.

    Especially, if the price - only letters to the president and the Prosecutor General.


    This is what needs to be done. I'm for it!
  • Volga Cossack
    Volga Cossack April 25 2016 07: 52
    +1
    no words ......... and make money on it ......... not sickeningly no ???? here it is modern education - business - nothing personal! I’d write differently - but you can’t ..........
  • Gardamir
    Gardamir April 25 2016 07: 54
    -2
    Well done fellow countrymen, right in the business world is the only way. Tell me why should I be outraged by Kirov’s affairs when the mausoleum was again closed with the Vlasov tricolor in Moscow? My father was awarded the Order of the Red Star for the liberation of the city of Zaporozhye. And I am glad that he did not live up to this limit. Tell me, what remains red from that Victory?
    1. Darkness
      Darkness April 25 2016 08: 02
      +1
      There is a persistent planting of a "new" symbol of Victory - the so-called. "St. George's Ribbon". Many have already bought into this substitution. Especially young people.
      But, the only Symbol remains the Red Banner.
      1. Gardamir
        Gardamir April 25 2016 08: 06
        +3
        But, the only Symbol remains the Red Banner
        I completely agree. For here
      2. AID.S
        AID.S April 25 2016 09: 09
        +1
        Quote: Darkness
        There is a persistent planting of a "new" symbol of Victory - the so-called. "St. George's Ribbon". Many have already bought into this substitution. Especially young people.
        But, the only Symbol remains the Red Banner.

        There is common sense in your words, but you must admit that the symbolism with the St. George ribbon took place in the Soviet era too, and it may be just now that it is organic and does not cause rejection for all generations living today. Moreover, no attempts are made to replace the Victory Banner with tricolor.
        1. Darkness
          Darkness April 25 2016 09: 17
          0
          The symbolism was with the Guards ribbon, not with the St. George ribbon.
          Victory Banner replaced and Vlasov tricolor and dove, thu ...
          1. your1970
            your1970 April 25 2016 19: 28
            +1
            Letter
            IOSIF VISSARIONOVICH STALIN, CHAIRMAN OF THE COUNCIL OF PEOPLE'S COMMISSARS AND THE STATE DEFENSE COMMITTEE TO MARSHAL OF THE SOVIET UNION
            From the professor of the All-Union State Institute of Cinematography ANOSHCHENKO Nikolai Dmitrievich
            Our great Motherland always appreciated the valor and heroism of her sons, who courageously defended her from the invasion of foreign invaders *. Since the time of World War 1812, our people have always enjoyed special honor, love and respect from the 1918 year, as they were given the military order only to soldiers and officers, not just for military feats in general, but only for those who really heroic deeds, the essence of which was strictly stipulated by one or another article of the statute of this order, which, by the way, are almost entirely included in the statute of our Soviet Order of Glory, which is thus a kind of historical successor and continues the military traditions of the heroes of the Russian army - the gentlemen of St. George. About that popular love and respect for the gentlemen of St. George, as valiant defenders of the Fatherland, can be judged even by the following facts. I remember how, in the 1 year, after the decree prohibiting the wearing of royal orders, the St. Petersburg Red Air Force cavaliers continued to wear them for a long time, and when we, the members of the first Military Revolutionary Aviation Committee of the Moscow Military District [XNUMX], introduced themselves to the Soviet Government and personally to Vladimir Ilyich Lenin, he, having seen our St. George crosses, not only did not scold us, but even said approvingly: “It is wonderful that among the members of your revolutionary committee there are St. George cavaliers. Our people love heroes. Wear to health. This will increase your authority as an organ of Soviet power among the front-line soldiers. ”
            In the current World War II andnumerous facts are known when the old soldiers and Cossacks appeared in the army and in partisan detachments and went into battle with the Germans, putting on their old George Crosses on their chests, which always evoked the rest of the Red Army soldiers not jokes, but sincere respect for these old heroes smashing the Germans and defending the freedom of our motherland during the last war 1914 — 1917
            Therefore, in terms of all those great reforms that the Soviet government has carried out recently under your wise leadership in the field of creating a powerful army and raising the heroic spirit of our people, as well as in order to maintain the continuity of military traditions, respect for the heroic deeds committed in the past in the fields battles for the honor and freedom of our Fatherland, I ask you to consider equating the former [former] St. George cavaliers awarded this order for the military exploits committed during the last war with the damned Germany her in 1914 — 1917 gg., to the knights of the Soviet Order of Glory, because the statute of the latter almost completely corresponds to the statute of the former [order] of George, and even the colors of their orders and ribbons are the same.
            With this act, the Soviet government will first of all demonstrate to the whole world the continuity of the military traditions of the glorious Russian army, a high culture of respect for all the heroic defenders of our beloved Motherland, the stability of this respect, which will undoubtedly stimulate both the [former] St. George cavaliers themselves and their children and comrades to commit new feats of arms, for each military award pursues not only the goal of fair rewarding of the hero, but it should also serve as an incentive for other citizens to commit to obnyh podvigov.Takim same way, this event will contribute to further strengthen the combat power of our glorious Red Army ....
            Professor Nick. ANOSHENKO
            22.IV.1944
            Archive of the President of the Russian Federation. F. 3. Op. 53. D. 4. L. 32 — 34. Typewritten text.
            There is also archival data on the Draft Resolution of the Council of People's Commissars of the USSR of April 24 1944
            Archive of the President of the Russian Federation. F. 3. Op. 53. D. 4. L. 32 — 34, 35. Certified typewritten text.
          2. AID.S
            AID.S April 26 2016 00: 08
            0
            Quote: Darkness
            The symbolism was with the Guards ribbon, not with the St. George ribbon.
            Victory Banner replaced and Vlasov tricolor and dove, thu ...

            I remember the Soviet postcards for May 9, they often depicted a black and orange ribbon, albeit the Guards, but the same as the current St. George's, so what is the argument about the name? But the Victory Banner, the assault flag of the 150th Order of Kutuzov II degree, did not change the Idritskaya Infantry Division.
        2. Gardamir
          Gardamir April 25 2016 11: 06
          0
          Moreover, no attempts are made to replace the Victory Banner with tricolor.
          It is undertaken First, the Victory Banner with the tricolor, then the tricolor will replace the Victory Banner, and the regiment will replace the Victory Day.
  • Tanya
    Tanya April 25 2016 08: 05
    +6
    It so happened that today the Immortal Regiment is the worst thing for those who hate Russia, both inside and outside. The memory of the people is worse for them than nuclear weapons. Therefore, attempts to discredit the memory parade of the fallen will be intensified, and not only in Kirov. And all because
    Immortal Regiment = Immortal Russia.
    1. Gardamir
      Gardamir April 25 2016 11: 11
      -1
      The regiment is the worst thing for those who hate Russia
      give up, you consciously turn everything upside down. For me, the memory of my father is to celebrate this day as veterans noted, and not this liberal flash mob designed to replace Victory Day
  • Alexander S.
    Alexander S. April 25 2016 08: 17
    0
    I wonder ... what will happen if at least a few hundred Kirov residents come with their posters .. photographs ... and without these pseudo-tickets ... Everything is in the hands of local residents.
  • bumbarash
    bumbarash April 25 2016 08: 20
    +2
    what is included in these 500 rubles? production and design of a banner?
    The author of the article didn’t even try to figure it out, didn’t contact the phone number and asked directly what the 500r was for. Insinuations of all kinds rolled. Immediately drove the wave. SchA is again in fashion to look everywhere for traitors.
    Perhaps the organizers want to make banners in a single pattern, of the same size. Which looks quite reasonable. because last year it was striking that some had large posters, while others simply carried a small photo in their hands. It is clear that such a person simply did not have the opportunity to prepare for the procession for various reasons. Maybe there is no saw and hammer at home, or there was no time, or something else. If so, then 500r for making a banner is not money.
    As for Voronezh, there most likely it is done on budget money. But what is budget money? Praaaavilno children! These are the same taxes from people who will take from another pocket of the population. Somewhere a playground will not be completed or something like that.
    1. Egevich
      Egevich April 25 2016 09: 03
      +1
      Quote: bumbarash
      what is included in these 500 rubles? production and design of a banner?
      The author of the article didn’t even try to figure it out, didn’t contact the phone number and asked directly what the 500r was for. Insinuations of all kinds rolled. Immediately drove the wave. SchA is again in fashion to look everywhere for traitors.
      Perhaps the organizers want to make banners in a single pattern, of the same size. Which looks quite reasonable. because last year it was striking that some had large posters, while others simply carried a small photo in their hands. It is clear that such a person simply did not have the opportunity to prepare for the procession for various reasons. Maybe there is no saw and hammer at home, or there was no time, or something else. If so, then 500r for making a banner is not money.
      As for Voronezh, there most likely it is done on budget money. But what is budget money? Praaaavilno children! These are the same taxes from people who will take from another pocket of the population. Somewhere a playground will not be completed or something like that.


      everything should be parallel and perpendicular? .. so what, and the size of the photo does not matter at all ... okst, dear ...
  • Ros 56
    Ros 56 April 25 2016 08: 21
    0
    Comrade Zyuganov, what does your party say about this? Maybe, prosecutors should be invited there for a long time in connection with violations of the rights of the population?
    1. Darkness
      Darkness April 25 2016 08: 46
      0
      Pray in the church, I think.
  • 0895055116
    0895055116 April 25 2016 08: 22
    -1
    In all likelihood, in Kirov, the ideological children of his Jewish-Judas who worked for the US State Department crawled to power! Such as they really need to PRESS, for they sold the MOTHERLAND for a barrel of jam and a box of cookies as well as banderlogs in Kiev!
  • iliitchitch
    iliitchitch April 25 2016 08: 24
    0
    Yes, what to talk about? Where you can suck the ruble - be spoiled - there will always be "organizers", Komsomol volunteers, their mother. People with portraits will come out of their own free will, and suckers on their little hands ... Not until Putin is called on a direct line, the hell power will move, like with Shikotan. If these creatures in our provinces thought about it and were sick for the cause, Russia would have long been a country of millionaires.
    And choo, I already hear screams - YES AT YOU IN MOSCOW ... You need to write - WE ARE IN THE REGIONS, WE ARE IN MOSCOW, there should be no difference. Liberastia, it’s contagious.
  • Jelezo1
    Jelezo1 April 25 2016 08: 25
    +2
    Good morning to everyone, I am from the city of Kirov, and here’s what I’ll say here as in the order of things everywhere the roads are corrupted, we simply do not have food prices higher than Moscow and real estate is on the same level with the capital and the average salary is 15 so imagine what we are led by the Belykh government, and there are famous rumors about him that he sold the shares of the whole factory with Navalny, then there was a lady like Gaidar who ruined everything in our region and behind her there’s a jamb in her car that knocked a schoolgirl to death and blamed The driver of the trolleybus was seized by a woman and for nothing the independent commission came from Moscow, but as you can see, it didn’t help. So we still have that gangster in our administration and he’s still kind of a relative of Medvedev so if it’s true then his impunity will continue.
    1. Pinkie F.
      Pinkie F. April 25 2016 08: 37
      +2
      Well, 45tr per sq.m is far from
      Quote: Jelezo1
      on par with the capital
    2. Nikolay K
      Nikolay K April 25 2016 09: 36
      -1
      and real estate is on the same level with the capital

      Comrade, what are you talking about? Where else have you seen real estate prices in the country like in Moscow? You lie, but do not lie.
  • Zomanus
    Zomanus April 25 2016 08: 28
    -1
    Well this is one of ...
    We’ll also see how many posters with German / American / other
    soldiers hang on the streets with congratulations on 9 May.
  • nov_tech.vrn
    nov_tech.vrn April 25 2016 08: 29
    0
    In Voronezh, they invite to the MFC to take photos for free.
    1. Nikolay K
      Nikolay K April 25 2016 09: 40
      -1
      Here. Because Voronezh has "its own" governor, who easily allocates budget money for an informal popular action. And on the Vetka sits Belykh, who will not hesitate to impute the misuse of budget funds for the same purposes.
  • baudolino
    baudolino April 25 2016 08: 33
    -1
    And did anyone think of writing a statement to the prosecutor's office? Or all the crap just to comment? And illegal information on the network in Russia is now one click you can complain.
  • Monster_Fat
    Monster_Fat April 25 2016 08: 38
    +1
    Was recently in Kirov on a business trip. In general, a complete backwoods - "outback". Despite the fact that the "defense industry" began to revive there (even one new enterprise was built), the salary of workers and engineers does not exceed 15-20 thousand rubles. Despite the "revival of industry", the city is full of unemployed people who have come in search of any job from the surrounding villages, where there is absolutely complete "hopelessness". "Industrialization", yeah. There are practically no roads or sidewalks in the city, only "pits" and "potholes". The city seems to be being built up without any architectural plan at all - they are sculpting houses as they please and wherever possible. Architecturally, the city is now a depressing sight, just like all other cities in our hinterland. At night, after 22 hours, the electricity is cut off and the city plunges into darkness so as not to break legs on the "sidewalks" and not get "in trouble" on the dark streets, the inhabitants of this city, at this time, try not to leave their apartments. In general, as everywhere now we have "in the provinces" - there is nothing special, everything is typical for the present "peripheral" Russia ...
    1. Nikolay K
      Nikolay K April 25 2016 09: 45
      0
      So our budget is distributed from the Kremlin through subsidies and subventions, because 90% of the regions are subsidized. And it is distributed according to the principle "I will give as much as I want." Naturally, disloyal governors receive much less EdR's henchmen. So it turns out that ordinary residents of Vyatka, sitting without electricity, roads, etc., are puffed up for the governor's political views.
  • Gray 43
    Gray 43 April 25 2016 09: 19
    +1
    When Nikita wanted to leave, I don't remember the reason, I already held my breath, but alas ..... "I have obligations to the inhabitants of the region ..." - and stayed. I agree with my fellow countryman on all points, there are no roads, the prices for everything will be higher than those of the neighbors, as they say, "Vyatka has its own rules." With the renaming of Kirov to Vyatka, the situation will not change - Kirov is famous for its defense enterprises, a lot was given for the Victory over fascism, for the sake of the glorious past the name must be retained. We laugh at the patients of the Ukraine ward, and we ourselves are quietly renaming the streets, we got to the metro, although it was built during the Soviet Union. Not to cover up the inability to manage new signs, it seems to me that Belykh and his company are in exile))) Decembrists, damn it!
  • Prutkov
    Prutkov April 25 2016 09: 20
    +1
    Novel. I have a suggestion. Now in Ukraine there is also an action to collect photographs and data of WWII veterans. But somehow I can hardly imagine that my grandfathers fought for the present Bandera Ukraine. Somehow, it’s all blasphemous in relation to the memory of Soviet soldiers. Maybe it makes sense to organize an action to form a separate Immortal regiment with photographs from neighboring countries? Yes, and in the framework of the ongoing decommunization in Ukraine, it may make sense at the state level to request Ukraine to return the Combat Red banners of the military units that were in Ukraine.
  • Old Siberian
    Old Siberian April 25 2016 09: 50
    +2
    Liberals are a shame, and the Russians are doubly a shame !!!
  • ruAlex
    ruAlex April 25 2016 09: 52
    +1
    From the first words of the article I already know who its author is. Thanks to him for choosing the most caring topics and not passing by.
  • atamankko
    atamankko April 25 2016 09: 53
    0
    Any good and good deed with the help of money can be predicted.
  • iva276
    iva276 April 25 2016 09: 54
    0
    This is not sick, this is redneck ...
  • vetor
    vetor April 25 2016 09: 54
    +1
    Quote: Gardamir
    But, the only Symbol remains the Red Banner
    I completely agree. For here


    Red banner - Victory Banner.
    And the ribbon is a symbol of Victory. Such colors were on the Order of Glory and on the medal For Victory Over Germany.
    The motto of this medal is that Our business is Right We Won.
    Where do you see inconsistencies.
    1. Gardamir
      Gardamir April 25 2016 11: 23
      0

      Red banner - Victory Banner.
      A ribbon symbol of victory

      Where do you see inconsistencies.

      Look at Soviet postcards GUARDIAN tape always with either a star. either with a red flag. Now, pre-revolutionary George is called upon to replace all the Soviet symbols of Victory.
  • Mestny
    Mestny April 25 2016 10: 08
    +1
    Quote: Nikolai K
    What loot, 500 rubles? So this is for making a portrait. You try to make it yourself or order production in private, I doubt that it will be cheaper.

    A4 size photo costs about 70 rubles. This is the issue of price.
    And not everything is ultimately determined by money.
    The memory of the war, and the dead for us is not exactly determined.
    The basic principles should remain, there are a lot of them.
    An attempt to make money on a topic that is sacred to most seems blasphemous in the performance of young creative pupils of the new history of the nineties. I am sure that all this fuss with squeezing money seems completely normal, and even most likely they consider themselves to be such patriots, only creative, and able, in a new and bright way, to pick up the banner of patriotism from the weakening hands of the previous generation in the spirit of the times.
    Telling them that they are MD is useless. How to prove to a madman that he is.
  • AleksPol
    AleksPol April 25 2016 10: 11
    +2
    Well that's the whole point of liberals,
    nothing personal, only business and money do not smell.
    Nits in one word.
  • penguin
    penguin April 25 2016 10: 14
    0
    It's a shame I myself from the Vyatka land and read this. The author has a plus for raising the topic and a minus for the title. How Kirov may not be entirely Russia. Tell me, then, which region is Russia at all, and which country is not Russia at all? We, Vyatka, are ashamed of such figures, but Kirov did not cease to be Russia from this. Four of my relatives remained on the battlefields, and the survivors are all order bearers. And to read such a headline on the site I respect is simply insulting.
  • udincev
    udincev April 25 2016 10: 19
    0
    I wonder where the gentlemen of the Whites and Hops are looking? And who, in general, is simply obliged to bear responsibility for the frank lawlessness, which suits, according to the city newspaper and the portal "About the city", the Kirov administration?
    I absolutely agree with the author.
    To the questions: where ?, who? and when? We must get an answer.
    Not only Kirov, but also Russia should know the names of these "heroes"!
  • BAI
    BAI April 25 2016 10: 19
    0
    Gaidar has left, but her work lives on and wins!
  • bandabas
    bandabas April 25 2016 10: 48
    -2
    I remember the Soviet time. We went on holidays, wore banners. But there were HOLIDAYS. People were just pleased. And now. It will be Victory Day. And there will be an order (order) to come to the column. And I’ll just come. Without columns.
  • am808s
    am808s April 25 2016 10: 54
    0
    Kirov parasites sticking to our memory must be deactivated !!!
  • Denis Skiff
    Denis Skiff April 25 2016 11: 21
    0
    It will still be possible to get to the parade only by invitation, the number of which is limited. Information on invitation tickets will appear later, stay tuned. Phone hotline 467-998.
    Well, pupils of London (small British) usurers from the promised land behave with dignity. teachers can be proud.
  • Moore
    Moore April 25 2016 11: 59
    +1
    Quote: Diana Ilyina


    And you are apparently a descendant of the "repressed" Trotsky ?! Judging by your nickname and flag, no psychiatrist will help you, only an ice ax!

    The patient only registered today. Maybe I decided to cut down a little eureka, maybe a really holy fool.
  • DPN
    DPN April 25 2016 13: 10
    0
    Capitalism is STRENGTH, and people are a crowd, and with it they want to do what they do, in Kirov they decided so.
  • Ilya77
    Ilya77 April 25 2016 13: 29
    +1
    Firstly, not 500 but 320 rubles, and not for participation but for making the standard, so you can print it yourself and attach it to the handle from the shovel or to the rail. In my opinion, the author is escalating, we in Kirov are more worried about the more real problems - horseradish roads, rising prices and falling salaries, the development of parks, dust and dirt throughout the city, OSAGO insurers tearing in three hides thanks to our government, some impunity -one persons, theft of someone, yes I think so in every city. We honor the memory of our great-grandfathers-great-grandfathers who fought then, but for the sake of whether they fought so that the victorious people would live as they are now? Ukraine and Syria have distracted attention from internal affairs, which are getting worse and worse, but now more and more people are thinking - why do we live like this?
    1. ayuric
      ayuric April 25 2016 14: 18
      +1
      Well, you have things like that in Kirov, but last year on May 9, the city administration covered the clay pits on the roads with slag, and when it came time to run the baton, it started raining, okay canceled, and so the kids on this . well how? so there is a lot of nasty things from the authorities everywhere, but about the roads - there are no roads in Russia, there are directions. And the rest is the same.
  • Evgtan
    Evgtan April 25 2016 13: 34
    0
    Where to put a signature under this appeal? Let us all together support the author and residents of Kirov, not by discussion, but by deed!
  • Yugra
    Yugra April 25 2016 13: 46
    0
    Is it really not clear where the anal, the gaydar, the whites have visited, there will certainly remain a gang of young white-winged student students who will stir up water for a bribe ...
  • Rom14
    Rom14 April 25 2016 13: 47
    0
    It’s even scary, not from an overseas enemy, but from ours, which is in power and stupefied by money. Stalin needs such creatures, otherwise we’ll play out, the Soviet Union collapsed and Russia could collapse ... Volodya, can you really see what the ghouls are doing ???
    1. Ilya77
      Ilya77 April 25 2016 22: 46
      -1
      Quote: Rom14
      It’s even scary, not from an overseas enemy, but from ours, which is in power and stupefied by money. Stalin needs such creatures, otherwise we’ll play out, the Soviet Union collapsed and Russia could collapse ... Volodya, can you really see what the ghouls are doing ???

      Volodya himself is the same, isn’t the connection really caught up?
  • avg-mgn
    avg-mgn April 25 2016 15: 37
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    It will still be possible to get to the parade only by invitation, the number of which is limited. Information on invitation tickets will appear later, stay tuned.

    I will not delve into the subtleties, I do not live in Kirov. But, time has passed when the demonstration of 1may and 7 of November under a visor, (as they say) went on the lists. Who does not remember, or does not know, please do not interrupt! For those who remember: the reaction of the population to the flight of Yuri Gagarin ..... No one in the world was screaming, but the people came out, in a single emotional outburst who cried with pride and pride for Yura and the country ...
    Today, (I do not know who the author of "Immortal Regiment" is), but the people's impulse reminds me of 1961, the unity of souls (in memory of the past at least once a year) - there is genetic memory!
  • Brigadier
    Brigadier April 25 2016 15: 41
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    Heh ... And so everything is clear ... Kickbacks, kickbacks, all around kickbacks ... laughing