Media: Savchenko will be exchanged for Aleksandrov and Yerofeyev until the end of May

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RBC with reference to a certain federal official publishes information according to which Nadezhda Savchenko will be exchanged for Russian citizens Alexander Alexandrov and Yevgeny Yerofeyev convicted in Kiev until the end of May. At the same time, lawyer Savchenko Nikolay Polozov notes that direct exchange is impossible, since a citizen of Ukraine is Russia and citizens of Russia are Ukraine (which is being discussed) are not recognized as prisoners of war.

Media: Savchenko will be exchanged for Aleksandrov and Yerofeyev until the end of May


The RBC source claims that the “exchange” procedure is likely to look like this: both parties will transfer the convicts to each other to serve their sentences in their homeland. It is reported that the procedure should be "synchronized" by Moscow and Kiev.

Nadezhda Savchenko’s lawyer, Nikolay Polozov, said that the Ukrainian Ministry of Justice had already sent a request to the Russian Federation with a request to transfer Savchenko “to serve the sentence in Ukraine”. According to the same Polozov, a similar request from the Russian Ministry of Justice regarding Yevgeny Yerofeyev and Alexander Alexandrov will be transferred to Kiev immediately after the sentence comes into force (unless an appeal is made). According to the latest information, the lawyers of the Russians did not file an appeal.

But lawyer Yevgeny Yerofeyev believes that the parties will eventually agree on a “synchronous procedure of pardoning convicts,” which the presidents of the two countries can implement.
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  1. +6
    April 22 2016 16: 58
    Our two houses are good! And the fool 20 years do not need to feed!
    1. +14
      April 22 2016 17: 04
      Ukraine insists on the release of Nadezhda Savchenko, since she no longer has any other hope.
      1. +10
        April 22 2016 17: 07
        They don’t need living she, here you can wait for any provocation.
        1. +8
          April 22 2016 19: 08
          There will be no exchange. Chatter is all.
          1. +1
            April 22 2016 20: 42
            Of course, you can chatter, although there is no smoke without fire. But you need to change two servicemen for people equivalent to them. And this is ... you need to change it to the same, let some kind of crap like that ... look for yourself in the SBU. I’m sure that such a Russian citizen they are not.
            Quote: Mahmut
            There will be no exchange. Chatter is all.
            1. +16
              April 22 2016 20: 56
              Actually, I think it's a "stuffing" and that's why?
              It is necessary to take into account the moral aspect of the arrest of Savchenko and the trial of her for the punitive ATO. Namely, for the first time for war crimes, the PUNISHER in Ukraine was convicted for a period of 22 years. True, this is only in relation to Russian journalists who are citizens of the Russian Federation. But who is Savchenko for Ukraine? And what trail of war crimes is reaching for it in Ukraine itself? According to the idea, she, like the accused fascists of Nazi Germany at the Nuremberg trials, deserves the gallows.
              Savchenko is not just a war criminal - she is a murderer and a savage executioner of prisoners of war of the DPR and LPR. She can’t even be called a man, not just a man or a woman.
              Here are the data from eyewitness accounts who did not enter the case now following Savchenko’s sentence. But someday they will remember this and Savchenko will be convicted again.
              Ex-mayor of Uzhgorod: Savchenko beat off the genitals and extinguished cigarettes in the prisoner's eye
              Ukrainian gunner Nadezhda Savchenko from the Aydar battalion is guilty of inhuman torture of prisoners, ex-mayor of Uzhgorod Sergey Ratushnyak said on his page on the social network.
              I personally spoke with the teacher and the priest, who miraculously survived after the savagery, torture and torture of the new "maidan" heroine Savchenko. Here are their words: “She (Savchenko) did not beat, she simply crippled and killed. Tied hand and foot, - beat the pipe, beat off the genitals, extinguished cigarettes in his eyes. Constantly yelling: “Let's sell them to the bodies, like those, or shoot them at * ep”, - wrote Ratushnyak on his page on the social network.
              See - http://news2.ru/story/488756/
              Savchenko, endowed with awards and political powers in Ukraine and Europe itself during its investigative imprisonment and trial in the Russian Federation, in freedom in Ukraine in exchange for someone will bring the DPR with the LPR, Ukraine and Russia much more harm than in the time she served the prescribed term of 22 years in a colony of the Russian Federation.
              Firstly, Savchenko will be unambiguously released in Ukraine and used as an IMPOSSIBLE VICTORY banner of the ATO in Ukraine at the international level. The effect of the trial of it in the Russian Federation will be not just leveled, but used as an advertisement to expand the ATO itself - i.e. expanding the scale of atrocities and the number of all kinds of ATO punitive participants.
              Therefore, the exchange of Savchenko for someone in a positive way is not so straightforward. Therefore, all emotions on the exchange of Savchenko should be put aside.
              In theory, it’s better not to promise her any exchange at all. Otherwise, Ukraine will also launch a social mechanism for the accumulation in prisons of an even larger number of hostages, as such, and their slave trade. AND at the same time, in Ukraine ORDER much more people will suffer.
              1. +2
                April 22 2016 21: 41
                I agree with you Tatyana! Definitely.
                1. 0
                  April 22 2016 22: 59
                  And here is how Ukrainian nationalists and VSUshniki treat Russians.
                  Near Kramotorsky, the Nazis contain in pits, in inhuman conditions, militias, civilians, women. People are tortured and beaten to death. In captivity, the National Guard guards burned a fascist swastika on the body with a red-hot chain. Stanislav Stankevich also spoke about the pits for prisoners in Kramatorsk, where people are sitting, connected by chains.

                  The militants of the National Guard burned the captured militia sv Published: September 18. 2014 year
              2. +1
                April 23 2016 09: 00
                Quote: Tatiana
                Savchenko will be unambiguously released in Ukraine and used as the IMPOSSIBLE VICTORY banner of the ATO in Ukraine at the international level. The effect of the trial of it in the Russian Federation will be not just leveled, but used as an advertisement to expand the ATO itself - i.e. expanding the scale of atrocities and the number of all kinds of ATO punitive participants.
                Therefore, the exchange of Savchenko for someone in a positive way is not so straightforward. Therefore, all emotions on the exchange of Savchenko should be put aside.
                In theory, it’s better not to promise any exchange of it for anyone at all. Otherwise, Ukraine will also launch a social mechanism for the accumulation in prisons of an even larger number of hostages, as such, and their slave trade. And at the same time in Ukraine ORDER much more people will suffer.



                Definitely. Totally agree with you.
          2. +3
            April 22 2016 21: 53
            There will be no exchange. Chatter is all


            That's right, an exchange of this kind is a "Pandora's box", a slap in the face of justice and a refusal to prosecute persons who have committed crimes against citizens of the Russian Federation in Ukraine.
        2. +3
          April 22 2016 19: 44
          Live they do not need


          The most remarkable thing is that any option is suitable ...

          Given the auntie’s personality, look, she’ll still head what kind of liberation movement of which Chernihiv, in alliance with New Russia ... and if she is treated like the Brave Tailor acted with flies, then she needs to go there ....
        3. +3
          April 22 2016 21: 34
          Quote: cniza
          They don’t need living she, here you can wait for any provocation.

          We stock up on popcorn, wait for the comedy to continue. We will laugh when she arrives at her workplace in Rada and PACE .... laughing

          I'm afraid, Victor, you will be extremely right - there is zero sense from living from her. Not that from a "victim of the Kremlin's arbitrariness" and, moreover, a "victim of the bloody KGB" ... They will strangle themselves, but blame the FSB ...
          1. 0
            April 23 2016 11: 10
            Quote: Zoldat_A
            Quote: cniza
            They don’t need living she, here you can wait for any provocation.

            We stock up on popcorn, wait for the comedy to continue. We will laugh when she arrives at her workplace in Rada and PACE .... laughing

            I'm afraid, Victor, you will be extremely right - there is zero sense from living from her. Not that from a "victim of the Kremlin's arbitrariness" and, moreover, a "victim of the bloody KGB" ... They will strangle themselves, but blame the FSB ...

            ===
            in the pass, the salary is probably higher, and in terms of anti-Russian policy, it will be needed there. as long as this name is heard, they will squeeze everything possible
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      3. 0
        April 23 2016 01: 57
        Plus for the pun)))
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    3. +21
      April 22 2016 17: 06
      Quote: Dmitry Potapov
      And you don’t need to feed a fool for 20 years!

      A strange excuse for an exchange ....
      1. 0
        April 22 2016 17: 20
        Quote: RUSS
        A strange excuse for an exchange ....


        Samizdat magazine Krasnov - About Nadya Savchenko. Published on 12.03.16 .:

        Savchenko is a striking example of negative selection. If someone is at odds with her own eyes and Lombroso's theory, then let them look at her behavior in court. Or reads a biography, she (biography) will say a lot. By the way, Savchenko's first appearance on TV was in one of the most degenerate programs: in the Ukrainian "battle of psychics" in 2012. It is difficult to think of a more deceitful show; in a healthy society, all its organizers and participants should receive long terms under Article 159 and, without fail, with confiscation of property. But in Russian (or Ukrainian, all the same), these are venerable and respected figures of show business.
        There is no doubt that Savchenko will remain at large, which will be presented by the smart "wives" of President Putin as another victory, firstly, and as an act of great humanity, secondly.
        Therefore, the most correct thing that should have been done with Savchenko is to shoot.
        But this, of course, will not be done. Savchenko will walk free, thereby demonstrating the main ideology of post-Soviet reality. You can kill the despicable mob by the thousands, and we - the highest, the best, the wilted and the deliberate - cannot be touched under any circumstances. Actually, for the sake of the triumph of this ideology of the USSR, it was destroyed.
        1. +51
          April 22 2016 17: 27
          Alexandrova and Yerofeyev should be released in accordance with the Minsk Treaties, according to which they should amnesty all parties to the conflict, regardless of citizenship. And the guarantors of the Minsk agreements and the UN Security Council must ensure the implementation of the resolution. At the same time, the murderer of Russian citizens Savchenko does not fall under the Minsk agreement 100% since Russia is not a party to the conflict.
          If Savchenko is still exchanged, it will turn out to be a very dangerous precedent related to the possibility of the unpunished murder of Russian citizens with the subsequent capture of Russian hostages in order to exchange them for killers.
          1. +2
            April 22 2016 17: 46
            Well, the Minsk agreements do not work, Do not work.
            As for our citizens, they were both killed and will be killed. Killed in the war, and this is not to play checkers.
            Savchenko, of course, is very likely. But even after serving she does not repent. So it’s better to pull our people out like that, and then let her bloody gebene lay down, under the guise of a robbery. And there, those who need it will understand the hint.
            1. -2
              April 22 2016 19: 15
              All right write! I have the same opinion. One crazy for 2 normal men to change - not bad. Why the hell did she give up to us?
              1. 0
                April 22 2016 19: 43
                Quote: Dr. Bormental
                Why the hell did she give up to us?

                The funny thing is, it is not necessary for those in power in Ukraine either.
                In a Russian prison, it brings more benefit to the UKRKhunte as an instrument of some pressure on Russia, and being in Kiev it will be a significant problem.
                How will they cover up the tricks of an outrageous, inadequate sadistic killer (with a request for political activity) outside of military operations? Although ... there have already been examples.
                1. +1
                  April 22 2016 20: 07
                  Nobody needs her. Let the great wukras, having got this ugly ugly one, scratch their turnips, what can we do with it now. Maybe they will strangle them into a tyhari so that they would not fuss. And maybe they will treat you in the fool.
                2. 0
                  April 22 2016 20: 46
                  But what pressure tool? The attitude that they’ll be worse .. So they aren’t anyway. A judge with a prosecutor will crush sanctions, this is all stupid ..
                  Quote: ArMax
                  Quote: Dr. Bormental
                  Why the hell did she give up to us?

                  The funny thing is, it is not necessary for those in power in Ukraine either.
                  In a Russian prison, it brings more benefit to the UKRKhunte as an instrument of some pressure on Russia, and being in Kiev it will be a significant problem.
                  How will they cover up the tricks of an outrageous, inadequate sadistic killer (with a request for political activity) outside of military operations? Although ... there have already been examples.
                  1. 0
                    April 23 2016 09: 40
                    Quote: dmi.pris
                    But what pressure tool? The attitude that they’ll be worse .. So they aren’t anyway. A judge with a prosecutor will crush sanctions, this is all stupid ..

                    PACE adopted a resolution by a majority of votes, in which it proposed to introduce a sanctions "list of Savchenko". The list is proposed to include those involved in the detention and sentencing of Savchenko. The resolution also says that the list should be put into effect if "it is not immediately released."
                    http://ria.ru/world/20160422/1417081658.html
                    Yes
              2. +3
                April 22 2016 19: 50
                Quote: Dr. Bormental
                All right write! I have the same opinion. One crazy for 2 normal men to change - not bad. Why the hell did she give up to us?

                Exactly. And it will be interesting to see how this, if I may say so, is non-lambna, will work in all those positions that were hung on her ... I think even in the circus called "Rada" she will stand out ...
              3. +2
                April 23 2016 04: 43
                the killer must be in prison
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            3. +3
              April 22 2016 21: 47
              Quote: 13 warrior
              Savchenko, of course, is very likely. But even after serving she does not repent.

              Yes, she does not stay .... They worked with Raduev correctly, and with this one it should be the same. Will sit for five years, and then at the expense "for natural reasons." Now to blame - to do the heroine skipping. Holding for 20 years also makes no sense, you will not re-educate, and the liberals, both ours and foreigners, will exhaust all the nerves. And so - quietly, of course, the rotten heart could not stand it ...
          2. +6
            April 22 2016 18: 18
            Quote: Vita VKO
            Alexandrova and Yerofeyev should be released in accordance with the Minsk Treaties, according to which they should amnesty all parties to the conflict, regardless of citizenship. And the guarantors of the Minsk agreements and the UN Security Council must ensure the implementation of the resolution. At the same time, the murderer of Russian citizens Savchenko does not fall under the Minsk agreement 100% since Russia is not a party to the conflict.
            If Savchenko is still exchanged, it will turn out to be a very dangerous precedent related to the possibility of the unpunished murder of Russian citizens with the subsequent capture of Russian hostages in order to exchange them for killers.

            That's right. This can not be done in any case ...
          3. +1
            April 22 2016 19: 25
            "Should" .. "Should" ... Ukraine will not comply with the Minsk agreements. WILL NOT BE!!!! There will not be, because if peace comes - that's it, KRANTETS to Ukraine !! There will be no one to blame everything that happens there. "Aggression of Russia" and WAR are the only straws that keep the 404 afloat. Look at how people live there on YouTube - communal services are higher than salaries. The IMF is giving them babos and where are they spending it? To "contain the aggressor" ... am This is not a country - this is the bottom of the most filthy bottom
            1. 0
              April 22 2016 20: 14
              So everyone knows that they will not. This is a trap for kaklov and their owners. They cannot do anything, nor go on the offensive. Time works against kaklov. Overseas owners wanted to catch us, but they got themselves. Now fuss, twitch. Horseradish especially twitch when your Faberge hold tight. Putin is only laughing.
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        2. +2
          April 22 2016 20: 04
          Actually, for the sake of the triumph of this ideology of the USSR, it was destroyed.


          Dear, any private opinion is worthy of respect, but Krasnov (is this not what you hope? laughing ) pushed in such nonsense that I am insignificant, I am overwhelmed with great joy that I did not choose the profession of a psychiatrist. Kill Savchenko? Yes, no question, a knife in the liver, during the arrest, and talk for half an hour for life until he dies. Or according to "Krasnovsky", it was necessary to abolish the moratorium on the death penalty, to change the legislation on the application of such to women and with fanfare to shoot Savchenko like Mata Hari? But a more idiotic scenario cannot be imagined even in comics. All the confusion was to throw it back, promoted and heroized. Oh yes, Tymoshenko? She will have to change her orientation and please Savchenko to calluses on her tongue. Otherwise, she can go to the kings on her own, she may again be on the bench, where nails are climbing in the ass. Do you have any idea (if you are not Krasnov, because his ideas are in the nature of mushrooms dangerous for the psyche) what kind of clown Russia is throwing into Ukraine? Mac Donalds nervously smokes at the bucket. I get the impression that Russia, after twenty years of hibernation, is taking revenge on Ukraine for everything. Brutally, methodically and without smirks. And Savchenko, just an episode of this.
          1. 0
            April 23 2016 04: 49
            So they also planted two "special forces" so that they could "exchange" Nastya after the promotion and 2 days of hunger strike. Nelson Mandela damn it. They know how to work.
      2. -1
        April 22 2016 17: 22
        Good. Here is another excuse for you: being with us Savchenko is a martyr, and even after death. And in Ukraine, they are now petting her, shouting about her heroism, and after 10 years, perhaps, they will not even remember.
        But now we, on the other hand, have again committed a humane act - we returned our own, and this "girl" was returned.
        But this is IMHO
        1. +6
          April 22 2016 17: 42
          For exchange, we are full of Ukrainian saboteurs and spies whom we just let go! Recently a colonel of the SBU was detained, three companies of the Armed Forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine were previously detained and everyone is just released! And all citizens of Russia under 60 in Ukraine are considered spies who moved there to their relatives!
        2. +2
          April 22 2016 19: 40
          Quote: 13 warrior
          being with us Savchenko a martyr

          Yes stuffing all this is cheap. She is defective, and there is no need for medical education to make a diagnosis. Well, they will return it to Nenka, the Ukrainians will howl with happiness that the "putler" has been won and will be forgotten.
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    4. +7
      April 22 2016 17: 27
      Yes, hi she is "starving" for the hundredth time already at home. And then it swells with "hunger", by leaps and bounds, behind the cheeks ears are not visible.
      As I understand it, from a legal point of view it will look like this:
      The GDP will not be able to pardon her, she has a double murder, she will be handed over to Ukraine under the obligation of her imprisonment at home .... They will naturally subscribe to this, they will not be able to back down ... But then how will they ensure her "conclusion" without fulfilling the contract ? wassat
    5. +6
      April 22 2016 17: 59
      Our two houses are good! And the fool 20 years do not need to feed!

      Tell this to your relatives Igor Kornelyuk and Anton Voloshin ...
      1. 0
        April 22 2016 18: 40
        They do it right, change Savchenko to our guys. ... no one needs this freak. ... what should we feed her? And in Ukropia a couple of months will destroy, shake even more current power. ..then her banged. .., for the fig she, a lesbian killer, who gave up?
      2. 0
        April 23 2016 11: 16
        Quote: Rokossovsky
        Our two houses are good! And the fool 20 years do not need to feed!

        Tell this to your relatives Igor Kornelyuk and Anton Voloshin ...

        ====
        you cannot return the dead, and two are living people!
    6. +1
      April 22 2016 18: 22
      Yes, returning ours is good! But there is not enough joy. In fact, in Russia it is impossible to judge the "heroes of the ATO" from Ukraine, who are REALLY CRIMINALS! In response, "Square" grabs several Russian citizens and "rolls in" 15-20 years for terrorism, separatism, etc., and then exchanges for their own thugs. what hi
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    8. 0
      April 22 2016 20: 03
      A message from the lawyer Savchenko has just appeared, who considers the release of Savchenko by the end of May to be a "stuffing" in the media.
      Only a court or investigator releases from a pre-trial detention center. And so, she did not even arrive at the place of serving the sentence. Usually, the pardon procedure takes about six months or is tied to some date along with an amnesty. It is unlikely that Savchenko’s release can be tied to Victory Day.
      1. 0
        April 22 2016 21: 33
        It is full of problems and the lawyer there is not the main one.
        They change the persons convicted by a court sentence, this is the status of a criminal. For Ukraine, she is a hero, they cannot recognize her as a criminal.
        You can exchange a hundred convicted Russian citizens and we will immediately see how real her status as a hero is and how much she is valued in the country and state.
    9. 0
      April 23 2016 03: 43
      Quote: Dmitry Potapov
      Our two houses are good! And the fool 20 years do not need to feed!


      It's right. She must be accidentally found hanging on sheets.
    10. 0
      April 23 2016 08: 00
      Quote: Dmitry Potapov
      Our two houses are good! And the fool 20 years do not need to feed!

      But why then did you need all this show? Maybe I don’t understand something! And she wouldn’t have stretched there for 20 years!
    11. 0
      April 23 2016 08: 53
      Quote: Dmitry Potapov
      Our two houses are good! And the fool 20 years do not need to feed!

      nevertheless, this black sheep with a masculine muzzle had to be forced to walk in front of the relatives of the victims through her fault
    12. 0
      April 25 2016 20: 14
      I don’t want to prove anything to you. Just leave it here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQpIZ4SdSUY
      You decide what to do with it.
  2. +14
    April 22 2016 16: 58
    Ukram can be set off - for a well-planned and conducted operation. Otherwise, sit Gad and sit.
    1. +1
      April 22 2016 17: 08
      Quote: lelikas
      Ukram can be set off - for a well-planned and conducted operation. Otherwise, sit Gad and sit.

      Something seems to me that having got the Gaddy, Kiev will get another headache ... It hurts too ambitious
      1. +1
        April 22 2016 17: 14
        Quote: svp67
        . It is painfully ambitious

        Yeah, almost like a nickname, and it looks the same.
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      3. +9
        April 22 2016 17: 17
        Quote: svp67
        Something seems to me that having got the Gaddy, Kiev will get another headache ... It hurts too ambitious

        No one is Savchenko and there is no way to call her, she has no finances, no political experience, etc.
        And she can put her ambitions somewhere.
        She is cheap! Barefoot!
        At the court, she acted like a baloney urka! What are your ambitions? Tales of Ukrainian TV will tell about themselves for the first month until they forget her fate.
        1. +1
          April 22 2016 17: 22
          Quote: RUSS
          No one is Savchenko and there is no way to call her, she has no finances, no political experience, etc.

          In order:
          - she already, albeit in violation, but DEPUTY Rada and PACE, already mean someone. Moreover, there are now 5/6 of the Rada’s composition there.
          - call her Hope
          - according to the first, under its popularity and a certain halo, they will allocate money and will use its name to the full, so there will be money, and then much depends on it
          - Yes, no experience, but there are many POLITICAL ambitions
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          2. 0
            April 22 2016 17: 44
            Quote: svp67
            - she’s already, albeit in violation, but the DEPUTY of Parliament and PACE,

            Member of Parliament And what does that change? They have every second rabble in Parliament!

            Quote: svp67
            - according to the first, under its popularity and a certain halo, money will be allocated and will be used in all its name

            What is the purpose of all this?
            Quote: svp67
            and then much depends on it

            What can depend on it? In fact, she is akin to Muzychko or Moseichuk, such a contingent is not in trend there now. Here in the army she can make a career, but in politics it is unlikely, there are enough morons without "Nadya".
            1. 0
              April 22 2016 17: 50
              Quote: RUSS
              Member of Parliament And what does that change? They have every second rabble in Parliament!

              Only that she is already WHO, namely, PEOPLE'S ELECT.
              Quote: RUSS
              What is the purpose of all this?

              Nothing personal just business
              Quote: RUSS
              What can depend on her?

              All. As she behaves, so her affairs will go further ...
              Quote: RUSS
              In fact, it is akin to Muzychko or Moseychuk, such a contingent there is now not in trend.
              Yes? Something did not notice. In my opinion, there are no others there now.
              Quote: RUSS
              Here in the army she can make a career, but in politics it is unlikely, there are enough morons without "Nadya".

              She definitely does not belong in the army, well, just in the propaganda department, but there is not much to earn, but in the political arena, especially in Ukraine, in the current conditions she has a chance.
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              2. 0
                April 22 2016 18: 15
                Quote: svp67
                Only that she is already WHO, namely, PEOPLE'S ELECT.

                She was chosen with violations, although who cares in Ukraine ....
                Quote: svp67
                Nothing personal just business

                What kind of business? Will they create a party for it? Or will it be shot in commercials?
                Quote: svp67
                All. As she behaves, so her affairs will go further ...

                You yourself contradict yourself, say that they will invest money in it and at the same time it can be independent?
                Quote: svp67
                She’s definitely not in the army, well, just in the propaganda department,

                Whatever one may say, but she is a "flyer" and has experience in combat, so in the army it may be a place for her, on a kraynyak in a terbat called "Nadia" laughing
                Quote: svp67
                but in the political arena, especially in Ukraine, in the current conditions she has a chance.

                She has no chance.
                1. 0
                  April 22 2016 18: 39
                  Quote: RUSS
                  She was chosen with violations, although who cares in Ukraine ....

                  Well, something like this
                  Quote: RUSS
                  What kind of business? Will they create a party for it? Or will it be shot in commercials?

                  Most likely any of the old ones will take her to her list. And then ... Do you not know how the deputies earn money?
                  Quote: RUSS
                  You yourself contradict yourself, say that they will invest money in it and at the same time it can be independent?

                  One does not interfere with the other, just in any business you need to act with your head. But she has these problems
                  Quote: RUSS
                  Whatever one may say, but she is a "flyer" and has experience in combat, so in the army it may be a place for her, on a kraynyak in a terbat called "Nadia"
                  Terbats will soon be a thing of the past, and they don’t bring those dividends.
                  Quote: RUSS
                  She has no chance.

                  Wait and see.
                  I hope that she will honestly serve her twenty ....
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                  2. 0
                    April 22 2016 18: 48
                    Quote: svp67
                    I hope that she will honestly serve her twenty ....

                    I agree.
                    1. 0
                      April 23 2016 00: 31
                      Yes, to hand her over for imprisonment in Ukraine, the DPR has not yet been recognized, so legally she is Ukraine (and correct). And in the DPR she will be added for her "exploits". I don’t understand at all why everyone decided that if they would transfer it, then to Kiev. Send her to Donetsk, they will be glad there.
              3. +1
                April 22 2016 18: 27
                Quote: svp67
                Only that she is already WHO, namely, PEOPLE'S ELECT.

                Misha Gavrelyuk (Kozak) is a former locksmith, a frostbitten fighter of the Maidan, and now he is a deputy of the Rada.
                In the photo, I didn’t see a body under the embroidered pattern .... here they are PEOPLE ELECTIONS OF Ukraine ...
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        2. HAM
          +2
          April 22 2016 17: 22
          Here are just such and become premieres on Urkain ..
      4. +2
        April 22 2016 17: 18
        Quote: svp67
        Kiev will get another headache
      5. 0
        April 22 2016 17: 39
        Something seems to me that having got the Gaddy, Kiev will get another headache ... ,,
        what Kiev will get there is their problem, but we will get a lot more trouble.
      6. 0
        April 22 2016 17: 41
        Quote: svp67
        It is painfully ambitious

        and what are her ambitions? Run for president of UA?
        1. -2
          April 22 2016 17: 44
          Quote: Pinky F.
          and what are her ambitions? Run for president of UA?

          Take it higher - she is the SAVIOR OF THE STATE, Ukrainian Zhanna Dark ...
      7. +2
        April 22 2016 17: 44
        everything is calculated there, they will immediately send it to the ATO to the forefront by the commissar of the right sector and a simple civilian, oh, how I don’t like it!
      8. +1
        April 22 2016 18: 15
        Quote: svp67
        Viper

        Just like Gaustyan: "Gadya Khrenova")))
        And to hell with her ... after transferring it to the Ukrainian side, she will get retribution faster ... after all, the walls of the prison will no longer protect her, and the heroic symbol around her person will quickly disappear ...
    2. +3
      April 22 2016 17: 10
      Quote: lelikas
      Ukram can be set off - for a well-planned and conducted operation

      On the contrary, it is not profitable for them, and first of all, Poroshenko, she has the halo of a martyr who was languishing in the dungeons, almost Jeanne D. Ark. And if anything, she will easily move him. Even if they change, I think she will not live long.
      1. +1
        April 22 2016 17: 13
        With such a brazen, well-fed muzzle, and after the hunger strike - all halos from the thread flew;)
        And so he will also write his memoirs, as until the last he fought for her with bloody gebnya. Maybe he’ll send his plane too.
  3. +11
    April 22 2016 16: 59
    We found the "most authoritative" agency - RBC - "jaundice-icteric", liberoids, no better than "Matza's Ear" and "Lezhd" ...
    "... with a reference to a certain federal official" is as reliable as referring to the grandmothers on the bench at the entrance!
    Stopudovy fake, which multiplies with the filing of their "brothers" from ukroSMI, such as Zhenya Kiselev and the schizoid Matyusha Ganapolsky.
    1. -3
      April 22 2016 17: 06
      Quote: sever.56
      We found the "most reputable" agency - RBK - "jaundice-icteric", liberoids, no better than "Matza's Ear" and "Lezhd" ..

      But in economics, they are the best on the air.
      1. +2
        April 22 2016 17: 36
        Quote: lelikas
        But in economics, they are the best on the air.

        What makes you think that they are the best in economics?
        Maybe some kind of international journalistic or television organization recognized them as such and they won the prize, as the best received? Or did some rating agency recognize their No. 1 in the world? Something I have not heard of this ... But the fact that they get money from the West is for sure - there was information on TV and on the network.
        We received an assignment from donors and a request from "brothers-in-arms" from Ukriya, so they drive fakes.
    2. +1
      April 22 2016 17: 58
      Quote: sever.56
      Found the "most authoritative" agency - RBC - "jaundice-icteric"

      You are right here already other information coming.
      Nikolai Polozov, a lawyer for the Ukrainian pilot, convicted in Russia, Nadezhda Savchenko, said that information about her possible exchange for convicts in Ukraine of Alexander Alexandrov and Yevgeny Erofeev is a "stuffing."
      It is reported by RIA Novosti.
      “My opinion is that this is a special“ stuffing ”... It is not known where this information comes from, who launches it, for what purpose,” Polozov said.
      He noted that this is not the first “stuffing” in the Savchenko case “and, apparently, not the last.”
      Earlier, a source said that Savchenko will be exchanged for Russians detained in Ukraine before the end of May.
      http://www.gazeta.ru/social/news/2016/04/22/n_8545229.shtml
      1. 0
        April 22 2016 19: 18
        If the information about the exchange is reliable, then based on the level of the persons involved, the lawyer Savchenko learns about this only from media reports.
    3. 0
      April 22 2016 17: 58
      Quote: sever.56
      Stopudovy fake, which multiplies with the filing of their "brothers" from ukroSMI,

      her lawyer sings the same thing - but somehow gloomy
      Feigin: Savchenko's transfer procedure is delayed 22.04.16

      and about Savceko’s law
      using the "Savchenko law", persons who have committed serious crimes leave ahead of schedule
  4. +3
    April 22 2016 17: 00
    It is expected, of course, but as I understand it, that she will be released there?
    1. +5
      April 22 2016 17: 10
      Quote: pavlentiy
      It is expected, of course, but as I understand it, that she will be released there?

      Of course they will let them go and they will give the order, and Nadia will tell everyone every day about the bloody Moscow regime, and in the near future they will present this as an overture of Russia.
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      2. 0
        April 22 2016 18: 16
        Quote: Pirogov
        Of course they will let go and they will give the order, and Nadya will tell everyone every day about the bloody Moscow regime

        Fil will be removed and a book will be written.
  5. +1
    April 22 2016 17: 01
    They can exchange something, but when? What, someone seriously believes RBC? Naive.
    1. 0
      April 22 2016 17: 04
      What, someone seriously believes RBC?
      Just a month to wait.
  6. 0
    April 22 2016 17: 02
    But you didn’t believe .. They won’t leave them to rot there
  7. +2
    April 22 2016 17: 02
    So, were you going to change from But to Eroshenko? Not equivalent exchange. am
    1. 0
      April 22 2016 17: 05
      Quote: Uncle
      So, were you going to change from But to Eroshenko? Not equivalent exchange. am

      And who decides by what criteria who is more important than Aleksandrov with Erofeev or Bout with Eroshenko?
      1. 0
        April 22 2016 17: 15
        Quote: RUSS
        who is more important

        Savchenko - a creature of the United States, Booth and Eroshenko are in the United States. That's the thing, and not who is more important, everyone is important, all of ours.
        1. +3
          April 22 2016 17: 20
          Quote: Uncle
          Savchenko - a creature of the United States, Booth with Eroshenko are sitting in the United States. Here

          Not convincing, and the United States before Savchenko "to the light bulb" ...
        2. +1
          April 22 2016 17: 44
          what nafig
          Quote: Uncle
          USA creature

          ? It’s completely nonsense to write something.
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  8. +2
    April 22 2016 17: 04
    I don’t think that Nadenka is waiting so much at home. Although she is a PACE activist. Let her be admired there.
  9. +6
    April 22 2016 17: 05
    The exchange is certainly profitable, but what about the parents of the murdered journalists ..? I would still not exchange this Shmaru out of principle! I hope this is a rumor ...
  10. +2
    April 22 2016 17: 05
    In accordance with the principle of the abhorrence of punishment?
  11. 0
    April 22 2016 17: 06
    Quote: Altona
    I don’t think that Nadenka is waiting so much at home. Although she is a PACE activist. Let her be admired there.

    While Gunpowder is in power Nadia will not see. She is only needed by the round-faced Yulia, and nobody else (and even that is doubtful). Even to my mother.
  12. +1
    April 22 2016 17: 08
    soon the horses transplant us all crying
    The chief military prosecutor’s office handed over suspicion and summoned for interrogation the commander of the Black Sea Fleet of the Russian Federation, Vice Admiral Alexander Vitko, in committing particularly serious crimes against Ukraine.
    According to the GPU press service, officially the suspicion was handed over by the courier service at the location of Vitko - in Sevastopol on April 18 at 17:00. He was summoned for interrogation on April 25th.
    The commander of the Black Sea Fleet of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation is suspected that "in the period from February 20, 2014 to March 21, 2014, he committed criminal acts in order to change the borders of the territory and the state border of Ukraine; he incited treason; organized the commission of actions aimed at damaging objects of important defense significance, planned, prepared and took a direct part in the conduct of an aggressive war against Ukraine. "
    The prosecutor's office reports that enough evidence has been gathered that Vitko carried out a military occupation and the subsequent annexation of Crimea.
    recourse Interestingly, and "Moscow" on the Dnieper will pass? what
    1. +2
      April 22 2016 17: 18
      Quote: izya top
      Interestingly, and "Moscow" on the Dnieper will pass?

      Well, they have submarines roaming the steppes wink, so that "Moscow" will pass Yes Anomalous zone. request
      Hi, sailor! drinks
      1. +2
        April 22 2016 17: 42
        Quote: Angry Guerrilla
        Hi, sailor!

        ok though not a sailor recourse healthy hi
        as I can imagine, what kind of rzhaka stands on KChF, it stretches right from the ear to the ear laughing
  13. aba
    +7
    April 22 2016 17: 09
    If this is true, then this whole circus called "Savchenko's trial" becomes even more incomprehensible to me.
  14. -5
    April 22 2016 17: 09
    All the same, Puten laid down, well, and justice with him. In vain only they arranged a clowning, they could immediately exchange
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    2. 0
      April 22 2016 18: 18
      Quote: Million
      All the same, Puten

      Less to you from me for not spelling the name of the head of state correctly.
  15. -2
    April 22 2016 17: 11
    Maidania still does not understand which snake named Gadya (excuse me, Nadya) will be thrown right into Rada. Everyone remembers that she was on the list on the Tymoshenko party? So the gay player Lyashko with a pitchfork will appear to them a cute rabbit. I would have sent it there without our boys, at the fear of the recipient.
  16. 0
    April 22 2016 17: 13
    A fool, and so it is necessary to give, an inadequate stupid image, immediately rush into power and Ukraine will still grab happiness ... They themselves will not be happy. And it’s better to change to American recluses - Bout and the pilot (I forgot my name), so that the whole world can see who is in charge of Ukraine. Aleksandrov and Erofeev feel sorry for the impossibility, but understand this will be a precedent, that is, these ukrogamadril will grab our citizens and exchange their snouts with us. Bad practice is looming.
  17. +4
    April 22 2016 17: 16
    . At the same time, no counter proposals were voiced. Now the situation has changed: the trump cards of the Western partners are over, and now Russia is not threatened and is not required, but they offer various options for resolving this issue, taking into account Russia's position and interests. There is a big difference between the words “release”, “release” and the words “exchange”, “extradite”. If we talk about the moral and ethical side of the question: how much is it appropriate to bargain and hand over to Ukraine the criminal convicted in Russia for involvement in the murder of two Russian journalists? - then this is a rhetorical rather than a substantive question. Of course, it was impossible to let Savchenko go - neither before the trial, nor after. But it’s permissible and possible to exchange it for Russian citizens held by Kiev. Bargaining is appropriate. Not Russia has made Nadezhda Savchenko a bargain. And Russia did not start this bargaining. In fact, no one knows what Vladimir Putin talked with Petro Poroshenko about and what other contacts, consultations and negotiations preceded this conversation. From sources close to the decision-making center, it is only known that the Russian president did not give any promises to anyone. There is a negotiation process. And for certain it can only be argued that the Russian authorities in this case are seeking to ensure that Russia derives the maximum benefit for the country and for our citizens as a result of this process. Even if the outcome of this process is the release of two Russian citizens who are being held in prison by Kiev on far-fetched terrorism charges, that would be the right decision. Two of our guys (regardless of whether they are military personnel of the Russian army or civilians) are of more value to the country than one Ukrainian criminal and fanatic serving a well-deserved punishment in a Russian prison. In this case, Russia acts consistently and pragmatically. Neither from the point of view of international law, nor from the point of view of the adopted rules of big international politics - we have nothing to present. Russia has ensured that the person who committed the crime against Russian citizens is detained, convicted and punished. Now Russia can achieve that within the framework of accepted international practice. The most probable in this case is the algorithm stipulated by the 1983 Convention on the Extradition of Convicts of the year, according to which, upon request of the parties, requests will be made and an exchange will be made to issue the corresponding convict for serving the sentence at home. Savchenko will go to serve his sentence in Ukraine, and Erofeev and Alexandrov will be transferred to Russia. Talking about some kind of “precedent”, which will mean that you can kill Russian citizens, and then calmly return to Ukraine is stupid. Firstly, Savchenko was convicted and punished, and secondly, Russia thus resolves the issue of the release of its citizens who were repressed and held by the Kiev authorities. This is a pragmatic humanism that will not have negative consequences.

    The most paradoxical moment of this situation is the fact that for Poroshenko and Co. the return of Savchenko to Ukraine is not necessary and even dangerous. Returning to her homeland, Savchenko, from whom they blinded the icon and made a media star of international scale, will instantly destroy Yulia Tymoshenko as a political figure and become a dangerous competitor for Poroshenko himself. (And it is possible that the Kremlin takes into account this circumstance in its calculations and decisions.)
    For Kiev, Nadezhda Savchenko is interesting only in her current role as a victim. But Savchenko is still not quite a full-fledged victim. To finally enter the pantheon of “heroes of the new Ukraine”, called to unite the Ukrainian nation, it needs to die. But unlike all other problems and issues of Ukrainian politics, issues of this order in Ukraine are resolved quickly and efficiently.
    http://www.aif.ru/politics/opinion/o_chem_na_samom_dele_dogovorilis_v_del
    e_obmena_savchenko
    1. +1
      April 22 2016 19: 12
      It seems to me that all this is not essential. In fact, we are talking about the exchange of a convicted criminal who participated in the murder of Russian journalists, for his Nazi conviction that "Rusnu" should be "burned with atomic weapons", for internationalists who defended the population of Donbass. The question of whether politics is principled or unprincipled is what is really important.
      1. +1
        April 22 2016 19: 35
        Quote: iouris
        The question of the principle or unprincipledness of politics is what really matters.

        The interest policy on 90 is a lie, unscrupulousness, cynicism. They have such a job. God have mercy, just do not think that I protect them. But in these political chess complex combinations are played out and you have to sacrifice something (or someone).
        Returning to his homeland, Savchenko will instantly destroy Yulia Tymoshenko as a political figure and become a dangerous competitor for Poroshenko himself. (And it is possible that the Kremlin takes into account this circumstance in its calculations and decisions.)
  18. 0
    April 22 2016 17: 33
    Since this or this is so required by the "civilized" world, let them also give Buta and Yaroshenko.
  19. +6
    April 22 2016 17: 35
    Quote: lelikas
    Ukram can be set off - for a well-planned and conducted operation. Otherwise, sit Gad and sit.

    Are you sure that this is an "operation" ukrov, not our Trojan? She will arrange such a Sabbath there now wassat
  20. +1
    April 22 2016 17: 36
    The day has passed
    The number has changed.
    Nothing changed...
    Would kill ... (I just hate scum !!!) am
  21. +2
    April 22 2016 17: 36
    If the truth will change, then there is nothing to rejoice. As Kiselyov said (to catch the Russians, guilty, innocent, it doesn’t matter and change), it happened. Ukraine won in fact in this matter, pulled out its toadstool, the dead correspondents remained unrefined. That's all. I don’t need to be able to sculpt from this, as in 404. I hope the message is a duck of RBC, otherwise they will take the method into service.
  22. 0
    April 22 2016 17: 37
    A "masculine" woman is as unpleasant as a "effeminate" man! Savchenko to the Council of Europe? Let's! She will "chuch" you!
  23. +2
    April 22 2016 17: 44
    With all due respect to the guys who were imprisoned in Ukraine, I consider the exchange of shortsightedness and stupidity of the Russian authorities. Savchenko is an anti-Russian symbol for Kiev, a hero that every participant in the collapse of Ukraine masturbates tirelessly. If you let Savchenko go, she will water Russia and Putin with slops she will go to Europe, the United States to talk about bad Russians, about the dungeons of terrible Russian prisons, and so on. In Russia there are legally and not very many residents of Ukraine who support the Kiev authorities, you can catch and exchange them for guys, but it’s better to release the guys by military force , it will be more convincing. wink
    1. +1
      April 22 2016 17: 49
      Quote: Yak28
      In Russia, there are legally and not very many residents of Ukraine who support the Kiev authorities, they can be caught and exchanged for children, and it is better to release the guys by military force, this will be more convincing

      Here! That’s exactly what we need to pull out of ours, and to keep this odious savchenko in prison for the whole term.
      1. +2
        April 22 2016 18: 14
        better attempt to escape
        and even better household accident: choked on a bar of soap or
        crap to death.
  24. +3
    April 22 2016 17: 44
    we, or rather, in the Donbass, have someone to exchange our guys for. If there is an exchange for this sore head, this will be a BIG mistake.
  25. 0
    April 22 2016 17: 58
    And what was really said that they will change it? .. Tell me who and where it was voiced, whose decision it is and where it is printed. And it turns out that someone threw it into a puddle and everyone was boiling, oh-oh-oh-oh-how so, yes, and how it is. Let's first wait for real steps in this direction, and then water everyone and everything, or vice versa blow into fanfare ...
  26. +3
    April 22 2016 18: 05
    Something I think that there will be no exchange with Savchenko. exchange by other names and persons may be, but it’s not possible to sit a savchenko.
  27. 0
    April 22 2016 18: 07
    If this is done by the current government, the country will be lowered below the baseboard. It turns out that in any country they can capture a Russian citizen they will draw an article and demand in exchange for some kind of bastard. The current government will put itself in the place of Savchenko, okay disgraced with the thieves Vasilyeva and Serdyukov here on those still lacked the killers to free.
  28. 0
    April 22 2016 18: 14
    Change! Unambiguously change! Savchenko in Ukraine, this is the best and most successful diversion! She will put everyone with cancer there!
    1. +1
      April 22 2016 18: 39
      Quote: jekasimf
      She’ll put everyone there with cancer!

      Do not change. He put and beaten a sog-beat, and he died in a ditch with a bullet in his belly, and this one bangs. In fact, it’s good, but in fact Russia showed weakness, they will continue to bend
  29. 0
    April 22 2016 18: 18
    We don’t know the undercurrents, but we must remember Hodor,
    his promises and deeds, and this one will be still smelly.
  30. +4
    April 22 2016 18: 36
    How can this be so. Now they will constantly abduct our citizens and demand anything?
    1. +2
      April 22 2016 18: 45
      Like Somali pirates
  31. +1
    April 22 2016 18: 53
    It should not be exchanged, but quartered.
  32. 0
    April 22 2016 19: 14
    Stuffing! They will not change it fact.
  33. +1
    April 22 2016 19: 47
    you can’t let this snake out let it die, another lesson to the LARGERS. Releasing her so much shit will be from her
  34. +4
    April 22 2016 20: 07
    Savchenko must sit, otherwise how will our rulers look into the eyes of the mothers of our journalists? But Aleksandrov and Erofeev were servicemen and knew what they were going to ... Besides, they themselves had already spoken to the SBU for a term in Russia. Silence would be better than to scum Russia!
  35. +4
    April 22 2016 20: 31
    Quote: Vita VKO
    Alexandrova and Yerofeyev should be released in accordance with the Minsk Treaties, according to which they should amnesty all parties to the conflict, regardless of citizenship. And the guarantors of the Minsk agreements and the UN Security Council must ensure the implementation of the resolution. At the same time, the murderer of Russian citizens Savchenko does not fall under the Minsk agreement 100% since Russia is not a party to the conflict.
    If Savchenko is still exchanged, it will turn out to be a very dangerous precedent related to the possibility of the unpunished murder of Russian citizens with the subsequent capture of Russian hostages in order to exchange them for killers.

    The most correct comment. I completely agree
  36. +2
    April 22 2016 20: 33
    and you can’t exchange it and exchange it badly ... a bad situation for the Russian Federation and someone intentionally created it ...
  37. +1
    April 22 2016 20: 36
    Dear, behind this exchange (although they take doubts) is not Savchenko, this is just dust, but big politics, here and PACE with sanctions and Kerry's request and much more that we do not know at all, here is the layout of the exchange (again, if in general), by exchange, Russia is creating the prerequisites for bargaining, and this is really dangerous, for Russian citizens working in Ukraine, I also want to say with competent PR from Savchenko, although for a while they can create a symbol of "not intimidation", here you need to think carefully about the consequences
  38. 0
    April 22 2016 22: 43
    I am against the exchange.
  39. 0
    April 22 2016 22: 54
    I propose to arrange a discussion of the petition exchange Savchenko on Vasilyeva!
    or oh! even better, Vasiliev needs to be changed to ours ... hmm ... her capitalization is higher!
  40. +1
    April 23 2016 01: 16
    why did you make such a fuss around this damned girl? no exchange needed. let the time wind up as it should. let the killer sit .. I was so enraged when she turned on a fool at the trial. sang. and yelled. to evil would not let her go.
  41. 0
    April 23 2016 04: 58
    Freedom to Vitya Zaverukha! 18-year-old Vita Zaverukha served in the first composition of the "Aydar" battalion, has two concussions. Now she is being held in a solitary confinement cell of the Ministry of Internal Affairs (Urkainy). Down with the bloody Kiev regime of oligarchs. Or was it already? How confused I am.

    And why not exchange Nagy Savchenko for Vitka Zaveruha?
  42. +1
    April 23 2016 07: 04
    Strongly against it! But if they exchange it and then fill it up, then I will not mind at all.
  43. 0
    April 23 2016 09: 48
    unlikely to be exchanged, but I would like ...
    If Aleksandrov and Erofeev are military, how were they convicted of terrorism? their court did not recognize prisoners of war. And if they are prisoners of war, the norms of the Criminal Code of Ukraine cannot be applied to them.
    discarding all this lyrics about violations and stuff. Savchenko will be cared for in prison, and they will settle scores with the guys in Ukraine I'm afraid they won’t survive in prison.
  44. +1
    April 23 2016 13: 22
    Kiev’s parliament, by cut, needs Savchenko not to get there alive. She’s worse than napalm.