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US media: Russian submarine fleet has challenged the West

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The actions of Russian submarines are becoming more active, Moscow is challenging the leadership of the United States and NATO underwater, according to an article published in The New York Times.


US media: Russian submarine fleet has challenged the West


“Russia has got completely new submarines, both diesel and nuclear. They are better armed and more invisible. The professionalism of their crews has increased, ”the newspaper notes.

It is alleged that "Russian submarines began to patrol twice as often," and "these raids are a real problem for the United States and NATO."

"We returned to the rivalry of the great powers," - quotes RIA News Commander in Chief of the US Navy, John Richardson.

According to Atlantic Council analyst Magnus Nordenman, “in the Russian navy submarines have always been pearls of naval combat power. ” The West “has recently paid little attention to anti-submarine operations and as a result has lost some skills in this area,” while Russia “managed to quickly restore its power,” he said.

At the same time, the newspaper notes that Russia is still far from the United States in the area of ​​the submarine fleet. “America has more submarines, they can be used far from American shores and are superior to Russian in their qualities,” the author writes, citing experts.

Nevertheless, the US military believes that Russian submarines "can attack in the event of a conflict submarine cables that provide Internet connection almost throughout the world." In addition, "Moscow is working to create an unmanned vehicle with nuclear weapons on board," the article says.

In this regard, the Pentagon offered to allocate $ 8 billion for the purchase of 9-ti Virginia-class submarines with Tomahawk missiles on board.

The Pentagon is also planning to modernize the base of Keflavik (Iceland) to accommodate the anti-submarine aircraft P-8A Poseidon, to purchase an unmanned "hunter" for submarines and a number of other measures.

"We have not yet returned to the Cold War, but its beginning can already be seen," said the former commander of NATO forces in Europe, James Stavridis, to the newspaper.
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  1. Roman1970
    Roman1970 April 22 2016 10: 40
    +21
    Moscow challenges US and NATO leadership under water
    Washington challenges everyone and everywhere. So what? The moral here is one. Who is stronger is right. So it was, is and will be. Nothing has changed since ancient times. We will be stronger, they will reckon with us.
    1. Kostyar
      Kostyar April 22 2016 10: 47
      +14
      Moscow challenges US and NATO leadership under water

      Your leadership on the letter "P", we did not rattle ....
      And the USSR and His successor, Russia, were always ahead of the rest, it was under water, there was simply a pause - ala 90s, and we don’t need your noodles, hang your walking hamburgers !!!!
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      2. Thrall
        Thrall April 22 2016 11: 50
        +14
        We just have different weight categories, relax mattresses smile
    2. Lord of the Sith
      Lord of the Sith April 22 2016 10: 53
      +8
      In this regard, the Pentagon offered to allocate $ 8 billion for the purchase of 9-ti Virginia-class submarines with Tomahawk missiles on board.

      And where does the Tomahawks or can they be used against Russian boats? wassat
      1. gergi
        gergi April 22 2016 12: 33
        +2
        With these tomahawks, they are going to peel in our cities. According to our wives and children. Tomahawhs are no good for anything else.
      2. yushch
        yushch April 22 2016 12: 44
        +5
        Quote: Lord of the Sith
        In this regard, the Pentagon offered to allocate $ 8 billion for the purchase of 9-ti Virginia-class submarines with Tomahawk missiles on board.

        And where does the Tomahawks or can they be used against Russian boats? wassat


        Tomahawks have nothing to do with it, you are right. There is a very "moreover" 8 billion Baku rubles for the Pentagon, this is where the main idea of ​​this report is. laughing
    3. Starover_Z
      Starover_Z April 22 2016 10: 55
      +11
      "We have not returned to the Cold War, but its beginning can already be seen," the ex-commander of NATO forces in Europe told the newspaper

      No need to bustle!
      You have returned to the active phase of the Cold War with the return of Crimea to the Russian Federation!
      Sanctions against Russia are just that, they went out for a walk and you got nothing to do with mulberries ?!
      Russia does not threaten you, it simply restores its armed forces!
    4. Peter Timofeev
      Peter Timofeev April 22 2016 10: 57
      +5
      It will not work differently, if we are weak they will crush us and level us.
    5. 79807420129
      79807420129 April 22 2016 10: 58
      +7
      Russian submarines “may attack submarine cables in the event of a conflict, which provide Internet connection practically all over the world.” In addition, "Moscow is working on a drone with nuclear weapons on board."

      Russia can answer at any time, to anyone, anywhere, so no need to scare, we can scare ourselves.
      In this regard, the Pentagon offered to allocate $ 8 billion for the purchase of 9-ti Virginia-class submarines with Tomahawk missiles on board.

      Here is the answer, give me denezhek.
      1. Lt. Air Force stock
        Lt. Air Force stock April 22 2016 11: 14
        0
        It is necessary to build more Yasenei-M and 677 Lada submarines. And then we have something carried away by new generations lately, then Kalina then Husky. Forgetting how long a new type of submarine will take to commission. We designed St. Petersburg, then two submarines according to the modernized project will be built until 2020, then Kalina will be built for another 5 years since the new project ...
        Thus, due to generational leapfrogs, it’s not possible to put submarines into series thereby reducing their price and increasing the construction time for new submarines (while we are racing down the generations, we have to build 3+ generation Varshavyanki, and not more technologically advanced Lada, because the Warsawyanka has already been delivered to stream and build them faster).
        Ash-M must be built until the 5th generation submarine Husky is launched. And not to build 7 Ashen, until 2020-2023, and the Husky will appear after 2030 so the shipyards will be idle, and the workers will lose experience and qualifications.
      2. Pavel Tsybai
        Pavel Tsybai April 22 2016 11: 21
        +19
        Well, they will beg for some money, but judging by the comments of their experts, there will be no sense. Therefore, we don’t hide some books.
        1. Horst78
          Horst78 April 22 2016 11: 46
          0
          And where can you download the "interrogator"? winked I studied German repeat
          1. faridg7
            faridg7 April 22 2016 12: 45
            +1
            Quote: Horst78
            And where can you download the "interrogator"? I studied German

            Do not worry, the Germans will be served second
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          3. Boa kaa
            Boa kaa April 22 2016 13: 41
            +1
            Quote: Horst78
            I studied German

            Glory, perfect yourself in German! Without war dealers, no war in Europe can do anything! The Bundeswehr is the backbone of NATO's general forces in Europe.
            Wiedersehen, mein lieber Kamerad! soldier
    6. GSH-18
      GSH-18 April 22 2016 23: 00
      0
      We have not returned to the Cold War, but its beginning can already be discerned, ”James said to the ex-commander of NATO forces in Europe. Stavridis

      Yeah! Last name corresponds to the place of work lol Stavridis would rather think how he could not become fried stavridis for beer!
    7. GSH-18
      GSH-18 April 22 2016 23: 02
      0
      At the same time, the newspaper notes that Russia is still far from the United States in the area of ​​the submarine fleet. “America has more submarines, they can be used far from American shores and are superior to Russian in their qualities,” the author writes, citing experts.

      Well, how, how! This passage is required for the internal consumption of the "exceptional".
  2. Vladimirets
    Vladimirets April 22 2016 10: 41
    +12
    "Moscow is working on a drone with nuclear weapons on board"

    That is, trolling with a nuclear super torpedo has passed. smile
    1. faridg7
      faridg7 April 22 2016 12: 50
      +2
      Quote: Vladimirets
      That is, trolling with a nuclear super torpedo has passed.
      Not that the guys are in complete prostration. The Russians are developing status 6, but we still have not figured out the top five statuses
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  3. A-Sim
    A-Sim April 22 2016 10: 42
    +5
    "In this regard, the Pentagon proposed to allocate $ 8 billion for the purchase of 9 Virginia-class submarines with Tomahawk missiles on board."

    For this and all the noise.
    1. Lt. Air Force stock
      Lt. Air Force stock April 22 2016 11: 08
      0
      Quote: A-Sim
      "In this regard, the Pentagon proposed to allocate $ 8 billion for the purchase of 9 Virginia-class submarines with Tomahawk missiles on board."

      For this and all the noise.

      So they already ordered 30 Virginia ... 12 Virginia is already in operation, the question is what will allocate 8 billion?
  4. aszzz888
    aszzz888 April 22 2016 10: 42
    +4
    We will really hope that, in a quiet way, the mericatosa begin to be in the deep .... Mariana Trench! laughing
    1. Wolverine
      Wolverine April 22 2016 11: 17
      +1
      Well said about the Mariana Trench ... wassat
  5. sir_obs
    sir_obs April 22 2016 10: 43
    +1
    So far, he has not thrown anything, on the contrary, he put it on you.
  6. Stirbjorn
    Stirbjorn April 22 2016 10: 44
    +1
    At the same time, the newspaper notes that Russia is still far from the United States in the area of ​​the submarine fleet. “America has more submarines, they can be used far from American shores and are superior to Russian in their qualities,” the author writes, citing experts.
    Well, another article with the main message - give pennies! every day in VO pop up
  7. Valter1364
    Valter1364 April 22 2016 10: 46
    +2
    It's time to stop paying attention to articles of this kind. When the budget of the military-industrial complex of mattresses is imposed, they appear in hundreds, as if under carbon copy. Only the types of troops are changing. fool
  8. Bulrumeb
    Bulrumeb April 22 2016 10: 47
    +3
    The actions of Russian submarines are becoming more active, Moscow is challenging the leadership of the United States and NATO underwater, according to an article published in The New York Times.


    Glory then what: "... throws a challenge", it just blew like chivalry, but in fact they are only able to sly, but from around the corner.
  9. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 April 22 2016 10: 48
    0
    Moscow challenges US and NATO leadership under water

    The struggle for this leadership has been going on since the days of the USSR. Americans often lag behind life, still representing Russia in "bast shoes and with a balalaika." They got used to the 90s and think that it should continue this way.
  10. Engineer
    Engineer April 22 2016 10: 55
    +3
    After a farce off the coast of Norway, the whole world learned that Russians have not only nuclear submarines, but good diesel ones, after Syria, the whole world learned that Russians have not only aircraft, but also cruise missiles. Does anyone want to know that we also have Satan?
    1. tol100v
      tol100v April 22 2016 11: 06
      +1
      Quote: Engineer
      . Does anyone want to know that we also have Satan?

      Yes, not just Satan, but Satan with a Scalpel in the Topola Grove!
  11. givigor71
    givigor71 April 22 2016 10: 55
    +2
    Balm for the soul:
    "The United States again expressed its" dissatisfaction "with the actions of the Russian military aviation over the Baltic Sea."
    "American media: the Russian submarine fleet challenges the West."
    "US authorities: Russia is transferring artillery to the north of Syria".
  12. Abbra
    Abbra April 22 2016 10: 56
    +1
    The whole point of this message, and all related to it, is as simple as a rag: the US military-industrial complex begs for money.
  13. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy April 22 2016 11: 03
    +1
    I marvel at the endurance of amers. Russia is advancing at sea, at depth, in the sky, in space, electronic warfare, selling weapons, Syria, Ukraine, the Baltic States, Scandinavia. The United States has a disagreement with the Turks, otherwise they would have stood up for them. By the way, how are things going "with a quiet sap" there, it's time for mine to dig, for a start to Alaska.
  14. atamankko
    atamankko April 22 2016 11: 05
    0
    But what about the economy of a "regional" state "torn to shreds"?
  15. LÄRZ
    LÄRZ April 22 2016 11: 07
    +1
    “Russia has got completely new submarines, both diesel and nuclear. They are better armed and more invisible. The professionalism of their crews has grown ”
    What else did you expect from a country whose economy is torn to shreds?
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    2. faridg7
      faridg7 April 22 2016 13: 01
      +2
      “Russia has got completely new submarines, both diesel and nuclear. They are better armed and more invisible. The professionalism of their crews has increased, ”the newspaper notes.
      At the same time, the newspaper notes that Russia is still far from the United States in the field of submarine fleet. "America has more submarines, they can be used far from the American coast and are superior in quality to Russian ones,"
      Listen, monkey, you’ve already decided - you are beautiful or smart!
      1. niki233
        niki233 April 22 2016 19: 25
        0
        as well as a regional power or Bangladesh with missiles!
  16. Nitarius
    Nitarius April 22 2016 11: 18
    0
    It’s NOT anyone who doesn’t throw one .... we will certainly come to your aid))) we will deliver the missiles if necessary under our own power right to the White House ... or the Pentagon!
  17. CORNET
    CORNET April 22 2016 11: 23
    +1
    "We are back to the rivalry of the great powers,"

    So much for the bastard Russia defeated in the 90s, it rose again from its knees ... The West buried us early! Gentlemen will have to answer for all the humiliations and robberies!
  18. Ros 56
    Ros 56 April 22 2016 11: 30
    0
    Yes, we didn’t throw anything to anyone, it’s just the time to put you poor in your place, otherwise you, with your exceptionalism, have already got everyone on the planet. Well, a nation with a cowboy mentality cannot rule everyone, you are good for gopniks, but not exceptional ones.
    1. 111.
      111. April 22 2016 11: 39
      +2
      here is a detailed cultural study of Americans
  19. karakuin
    karakuin April 22 2016 11: 35
    +3
    Every single day: the tanks need to be modernized, the electronic warfare must be brought to a new level, anti-tank grenade launchers are not knocking out rusty Russian tanks, Cook was pulled on the cook, the reconnaissance plane was scammed, again submarines with Tamagawk benzyn do not suck - some kind of horror. And if it's simple, then I asked my fellow Udegey, how long will it take you and your brothers to cope with the Abamerovsky special forces unit if it is thrown to you in the Ussuri taiga? He said we’ll manage in three, four days. And on a submarine with missiles in the rear, even swim around.
  20. Igor V
    Igor V April 22 2016 11: 37
    +2
    Well, they did not remember about Sweden. There are Russian submarines around, especially in the center of Stockholm.
  21. Demeter
    Demeter April 22 2016 11: 40
    +2
    No one has ever been able to conquer the whole world and the United States will not be able to ... Are US submarines superior in quality to Russian ones ?! Is this the Virginia type, or something, from which the noise is like an elephant in a china shop ?! Ha ha ha ... All the Yankees have are three excellent submarines, Sea Wolf, but they are not immortal either ... The United States has more submarines, but they have conflicts not only with the Russian Federation ...
  22. japs
    japs April 22 2016 11: 41
    +6
    True truth - We need to say less, do more. For me, I would have taken away an iPhone from Dimon a long time ago, and would have chased this lawyer along with ... a pancake and redheads, curly to hell.
    1. Boa kaa
      Boa kaa April 22 2016 13: 59
      +1
      Quote: japs
      For me, I would have taken away an iPhone from Dimon a long time ago, and would have chased this lawyer along with ... a pancake and redheads, curly to hell.

      As I understand you!
      Take comfort: You are not alone in your noble intention!
      Here are just "BABA YAGA - AGAINST!" smile
  23. sub307
    sub307 April 22 2016 11: 55
    0
    "In this regard, the Pentagon proposed to allocate $ 8 billion for the purchase of 9 Virginia-class submarines with Tomahawk missiles on board."
    The US military is delighted ... already sharing orders.
  24. cergey51046
    cergey51046 April 22 2016 12: 05
    0
    Blessed is he who believes. The author does not follow weapons. If the US has more boats, they are in worse condition. They cannot see our boats, as far as ours, almost 2 times. We have rockets flying under water, they do not have such.
  25. teron
    teron April 22 2016 13: 13
    0
    An article in the style of "the Russians are threatening us", "they have rapidly increased their combat power," and "the NATO countries have lost some skills." And the main thing:

    "In this regard, the Pentagon proposed to allocate $ 8 billion for the purchase of 9 Virginia-class submarines with Tomahawk missiles on board."

    For the sake of what such articles are written for domestic consumption in the United States and NATO allies.
  26. mav1971
    mav1971 April 22 2016 13: 35
    +1
    The roll call of stupid "urya-patriots" has been carried out.
    Diverge.
    You worked for the State Department.
    Manuals you meticulously executed.

    PS
    Well, the Russian normal working sane man can’t write so much stereotyped cheers-patriotic murmurs ...
    Well, he has no time for 2 months to gain pluses to the status of Marshal.
    Well, a normal person cannot write 2 thousands of meaningless posts in 1500 months.
  27. technical
    technical April 22 2016 16: 37
    0
    Question. It turns out that 9 boats are worth 8 billion. Less than 1 billion, while a 5th generation fighter is comparable in value to a submarine? Explain to the old man. A submarine is a floating cosmodrome with aircraft, i.e. missiles, and a plane, it’s like not twisting just an aircraft. Have they requested a lot?
  28. The Little Humpbacked Horse
    The Little Humpbacked Horse April 22 2016 17: 08
    +4
    Quote: mav1971
    Well, the Russian normal working sane man can’t write so much stereotyped cheers-patriotic murmurs ...


    So here the main contingent is schoolchildren and pensioners with a lot of free time
  29. VALERIK_097
    VALERIK_097 April 22 2016 19: 09
    +1
    I rarely write, but about the patient. Today I was on 3 submarines being repaired and undergoing modernization.
    Paradoxically, my brigade performs work on ships much faster than further paperwork of the work done. The BC-5 commander of one of the orders requires a copy of the PUDs to carry out the work (ram), all cabins are already breaking from waste paper. The military representative yesterday left the defect equipment referring to the fact that item RV (the item of the repair list is not compiled correctly) The question is, what is the fault of the worker if the head of this VP signed this statement?
    Sounds like sabotage.
    Separately, about wages: but this is a claim to the company — today they completed the work, which in 2014 cost 52n / h, I look at today's outfit-23n / h. Nonsense.
    It seems that I have lost faith in what we need quickly and efficiently.
    Every lump. BC requires notification of the Quality Control Department (although there are ZHOKi-logs of operational control, where even the worker "leaves his prints") all are reinsured.
    In May, I stupidly go over to the scheduled maintenance of my stands (pneumatic, hydro tests) of the Military for their torn deadlines because of their fault they will not. But I will lose the maximum bonus (peace of mind is somehow a priority).
    PS Amerikokosy, wary))), the fact that the "Cheetah" and "Pskov" went to the seas - they do not know the new characteristics of the ships. The tracks are completely different.
  30. electrooleg
    electrooleg April 23 2016 04: 15
    0
    It seems that the cables for them are more expensive than their own skin.
  31. PunisheR
    PunisheR April 25 2016 12: 25
    0
    Let them piss in their pants not only after the flights of our planes, but now also during the passage of "black holes" bully