What is wrong with Dagestan? Why is the republic in the lead in the number of reports of the National Anti-Terrorism Committee?

From the reports of the National Anti-Terrorism Committee.

26th of January 2016
In the town of Andi in the Botlikh District of Dagestan, the militiamen blocked and then neutralized the gunman.

15 February 2016 year.
At the DPS post in Derbent (Dagestan), militants carried out an explosion of a car filled with explosives.

17 February 2016 year special forces of the FSB and the Ministry of Internal Affairs in the Suleiman-Stalsky district of Dagestan, during the counter-terrorist operation, neutralized two representatives of the gang.

March 11 2016 year.
During the special operation in the Khunzakh region of the Republic of Dagestan, two militants were neutralized.

March 17 2016 year.
Neutralized militants of the Dagestan village of Mutslaul had connections with the terrorist group ISIS.

March 30 2016 year.
Law enforcement officers prevented a terrorist attack in the Tabasaran region of Dagestan.

13 April 2016 of the year.
In the suburbs of Makhachkala, the active phase of the counter-terrorist operation is underway.

14 April 2016 of the year.
The special operation against the militants in Gunibsky district of the Republic of Dagestan was completed.

For incomplete 4 of the month 2016 of the year - eight reports from the NAC on the activity of the terrorist underground, who settled in the territory of the Republic of Dagestan. And it is precisely Dagestan that accounts for the largest process of introduced CTO regimes (counterterrorism operations) among all regions of Russia — more than 80%! It is necessary to note the courage and professionalism of law enforcement officers who are fighting against the terrorist plague on the territory of the republic. But the whole trouble is that whatever the level of this professionalism, if the situation with terrorism in Dagestan is not fundamentally changed, the risk for both the law enforcement officers and civilians by the gang members will continue to be prohibitive.

The main question is: what is wrong in Dagestan? .. Why are the mayors of the cities and the heads of the republic themselves changing, and the things that are called there now? Why has the terrorist underground in recent years been quite at ease in Dagestan, and why do law enforcement officers have to “kick the tail”, risking both their own lives and the lives of civilians?

On this occasion, we hear a lot of judgments, the most popular of which are the following: unsettled youth, high unemployment, unofficial clan system of governing the republic.

The unemployment rate in the Republic of Dagestan is really high. On average, it is almost twice as high as the average for Russia - about 10,8%. Among young people up to 27, he is 2,5-3 times higher. However, it cannot be said that the existing unemployment plan is the primary cause of the prevalence of terrorist and extremist ideology in the republic. According to Rosstat, the unemployment rate is comparable (or even higher) with Dagestan in a number of subjects of the Russian Federation, and not only the North Caucasus Federal District. Chechnya - about 16%. Ingushetia - more than 23%, Karachay-Cherkessia - more than 14. Kalmykia - about 10%, Trans-Baikal Territory - about 10%, Republic of Tyva - almost 12%, Republic of Altai - 9,9%, Karelia - more than 9.

The lack of youth as a component reason for a suitable soil for cultural sprouts is also yes. But again, is it possible to assume that all 100% of youth representatives are “engaged in circles and sections” (at workplaces) in other regions? Of course not. But only about permanent counter-terrorist operations in Altai or Karelia, thank God, there are no reports ... Three times through the left shoulder and a tuk-tuk on a tree.

Clan control system. This, of course, also as a variant of the reason for the rampant terrorism, but as if we do not live in Russia to blame on this issue solely on Dagestan. And as if we are not aware of the fact that in other Russian regions the control system is built, if not on frankly clan principles, then on something very close to them. Local princes, they even in Dagestan, even in the Moscow region local princes, and the desire of one to “rise” at the expense of another, as it happened, is quite an established practice, which will only cut the Gordian knot in our country.

So, unemployment, cronyism, unsettled a certain percentage of young people - some of the components of the causes of the Dagestan terrorist mosaic. But this is not its main elements, and certainly not the whole picture.

In Dagestan, in recent years, a situation has arisen where the nests of extremism have been disguised as certain charitable institutions, schools for working with young believers, and other cultural and educational centers. At the same time, the work on the training of those specialists who, when working with young people, would help its representatives to separate the wheat from the chaff, was actually failed. Against this background, all sorts of “bright preaching” centers that call themselves Islamic, but in reality have nothing in common with Islam, have become the norm for the republic. There is no control, the alternative is weak, and therefore the ground for expanding the influence of radicals and even with generous funding from abroad under the guise of the work of youth centers and non-political NGOs is suitable.

If in the same Chechnya, the Wahhabi sphere was actually wiped out with close cooperation of the republican authorities and local clergy, then in Dagestan, radicalization is far from being reduced to nil.

Little allocated funds from the state budget? Well, no ... Funds are allocated, and they are considerable. There is simply no system that now allows them to be implemented in the right direction. And building such a system is not a matter of one month. Not a matter of one year. This is a hard work that can last for many years. But the main thing is to start. And not in words.

Separate steps are still being taken. As an example, attempts to replace radical preachers with those who are ready to convey to the people the word of traditional Islam. Here are just these steps (as the well-known case of brewing a metal door in one of the Khasavyurt mosques shows) often turn out to be an elephant's gait in a china shop. Instead of targeted measures to reduce the level of influence of radical preachers on the same young people, the reason for the radicals suddenly comes out to rally even more and gain sympathy even from those who were previously neutral. Such steps may not hit on radicalism, but on the contrary - to encourage it. It seems that there is a goal - the fight against terrorism and extremism, but there is no clear plan. Or there is a plan, but even at the regional level, to put it mildly, it is incapable. In this case, there will be no excessive noise in the form of loud reports about how the police, again, brewed the door to the Salafi mosque. And it would have been better if they brewed good tea and sat at the table and thought about how, with the help of preventive measures, to deprive the real supporters of the emissaries of the terrorist cells without any fuss.

It is clear, from the side to judge oh how good ... But. If the work on blocking the financing channels of the terrorist underground (although in the case of Dagestan it is difficult to call the underground, they act almost openly, hiding behind faith) and surgical influences on growths in the form of “Koran interpreters” who returned from Turkey and Saudi Arabia if Daghestan will not continue, it will continue to appear in the reports of the NAC as a republic, “leading” by a large margin, no matter who is at the head of Dagestan.

Comments

[Teberii]

This is how you should act like a tsar in due time. On all the keys you are only Russian posts or exits from central Russia. Otherwise, this clan war cannot be stopped.

[Alex_Rarog]

Posts by posts and what to do with mosques? For many karanas, this is a way of life! To set imams from Bashkiria? So they will not be accepted in Dagestan; one really needs to think here! For Muslims, the imam is both a court and a teacher! Here you will not get off with one administration !!

[Darkness]

And again, everything rests precisely on Islam.
In general, I believe that all these divisions into right-wrong Islam are nonsense. Come after Kadyrov in Chechnya, someone else, a Muslim, will be worse than in Dagestan.

[Corsair]

Quote: Darkness

In general, I believe that all these divisions into right-wrong Islam are nonsense. Come after Kadyrov in Chechnya, someone else, a Muslim, will be worse than in Dagestan.

And what is more Muslim - it means automatically without a king in his head? There is SKR, there is the FSB, SVR in the end, which should first of all keep track of the head of all undertakings and chop not only the tails, otherwise everything will be cut to the heights, and the roots will remain and let in new thickets. The authorities should work with clergymen since everything is so started there, work clearly and in a given direction, with the existing ones to conduct explanatory work, and send beginners to replace (future imams) not to study in Saudi Arabia, Turkey and other countries, to study here inside countries, and take them from local ones.
So far, each imam is a little king in his village, the heads of districts with relatives are generally gods.

[Razvedka_Boem]

I, not a Christian, know the difference between Catholics and Orthodox, I know about the Bartholomew’s massacre and who are the Jews. But this is all Christianity. Do you know the difference between Sunnis and Shiites? What is Sufism? Why is Wahhabism considered heresy?
How does it sound like Christianity to your ears?

[yushch]

Quote: Alex_Rarog

Posts by posts and what to do with mosques? For many karanas, this is a way of life! To set imams from Bashkiria? So they will not be accepted in Dagestan; one really needs to think here! For Muslims, the imam is both a court and a teacher! Here you will not get off with one administration !!

It is not necessary to put it from Bashkiria, although the idea is interesting. We must turn to the experience of our neighbors. There is only one way out, this is close interaction between the authorities and the clergy and, not least, guarantees of security and full support for the latter. Everyone should know if you touch the imam, then you will be guaranteed to be destroyed both yourself and the one who organized it, and for this now there are both forces and means. Only the inevitability of retribution for what they have done will stop these "comrades", which we see in the neighboring republics. Now it seems that the authorities of Dagestan do not really care about this problem, or one of them is secretly playing on the other side and until the local elite is convinced that they need to change their attitude towards life at home, the Moscow security forces will not be able to radically change there situation and will only destroy the rank and file bandos.

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: yushch

It is necessary to turn just to the experience of the neighbors.

The neighbors have a more homogeneous ethnic composition, while in Dagestan vinaigrette from 14 nationalities. But this is part of the problem. When emissaries of Saudi Arabia arrived with the relics of the Prophet Muhammad in Dagestan, the visit was agreed at the state level, the event was covered by all the central media. The consequences of the Wahhabi visit were predictable, but the visit was nevertheless approved. Now, when the seeds have sprouted, we are again looking for reasons.
For the rest, I agree.

[SPQR1977]

I will correct you 39 nationalities to be more precise and yet just the same, the Wahhabis do not recognize either the relics or objects belonging to the prophet. visitors had a few other views.

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: SPQR1977

39 nationalities to be exact

More precisely, more!

In the territory of Dagestan, representatives of 102 nationalities belonging to three language families were recorded

[the finish]

Look who else is the neighbor of Dagestan-Azerbaijan. From there channels of financial and human recharge go.

[Rastas]

You are an idealist, dear. What can be the interaction of power and the clergy if the power itself is mired in corruption and the clergy indulges it too? This is in an ideal world where power serves the people, and if the power is anti-people, then apart from cleansing, nothing will help. We need a revolutionary program for rebuilding society on the basis of equality of opportunity and supremacy, everyone is in front of the law, because in the Caucasus they are very sensitive to injustice. Otherwise, all this enlightening work of the confessors will not help - they say one thing to people, but in real life they see the exact opposite.

[Maganaskan91]

Quote: Alex_Rarog

Posts by posts and what to do with mosques? For many karanas, this is a way of life! To set imams from Bashkiria? So they will not be accepted in Dagestan; one really needs to think here! For Muslims, the imam is both a court and a teacher! Here you will not get off with one administration !!

We have enough imams. But during an undeclared war they killed more than 50 ten. The wahami captured them for the past 10 years. And right now they started to take away what they looked when they took them away. They go up where there is very weak Islam, where most people have no idea what is Islam. and they teach them their Islam. how do you think why there is no Levashinsky district in the bulletin board. Akushinsky. etc. we have imams and madrassas. and the future generation knows and learns what Wahhabism is. and if our local becomes to drive him out of the village.

[Rastas]

Acquaintances from Dagestan who left there speak of clanism and nepotism, which give rise to brutal corruption. Plus suspicions that terrorists are attracted to clan showdowns. It is very difficult for a simple person to break into people, do business. Local kings are sitting in the districts, they have picked up all the power for themselves, staged lawlessness. This leads to the fact that young people who do not see justice in society are looking for it in radical Islam. Moreover, according to S. Caucasus, the largest unemployment is in Chechnya, in which, as it were, peace and prosperity are among the leaders in unemployment.

[user]

It is very difficult for a simple person to break into people, do business. Local kings are sitting in the districts, they have picked up all the power for themselves, staged lawlessness. This leads to the fact that young people who do not see justice in society are looking for it in radical Islam.

You might think in other parts of Russia differently, for example on Sakhalin. But after all, nobody blows up the regional police department there. This is a big minus to our law enforcement system. Especially the precinct system as such.

[Razvedka_Boem]

Not "karan" .. but "Koran". If you don't see the difference, the problems will only multiply.

[uncle]

blue-evil, smoke-poison, religion-opium for the people, learning-light, ignorance-darkness. do the imams don’t have blood? passed the Unified State Exam, didn’t pass-not an imam, against sausage

[RoTTor]

And how during the USSR in Dagestan dispensed with mosques and imams? Forgot? Forgot how to work

[Darkness]

And they will be cut out there, as in the unforgettable 90s.

[cth; fyn]

I agree that you can get the "peace enforcement operation-2" only in Dagestan, not Chechnya.

[ver_]

... yes, let these clans "wet" each other if they like it - fewer people - more oxygen in the air of Dagestan .. If you don't have your mind, consider yourself a cripple .. Apparently, I like to live according to the laws of the Middle Ages.

[Gavril]

This will only spur the local population to reject these "only Russians or exits from central Russia"! Leading posts (namely, posts and not posts) should be held according to elections, which should automatically meet the interests of the entire population!

And in order for all sorts of nusras to be removed from the Caucasus, it is necessary for normal people of the Islamic faith to deal with the radicals themselves, the only way, and nothing else!

[uncle]

religion needs to be eradicated and there will be no problems

[ver_]

Quote: haybula

Where do you get such information that it’s a sin to work with your hands in the Caucasus? It's a lie. Caucasians are required to work at least something, but provide for their families. Do not carry nonsense without knowing the subject of conversation. What other brushes? Judging by what you write, you should be sent to study somewhere in Australia.

..One of the results of the Caucasian War in Tsarist Russia was the "exodus" of a part of the Chechens to Turkey .. The Ottomans did not like the Chechens' actions in Turkey .. Who will like robbery and theft .. The Turks simply massacred them almost all .. To a strange monastery with their own charter do not walk .. Mountains have no laws - they are just mountains ..

[Sergej1972]

In the Dagestan region of the Russian Empire, a little such a management system was not.

[SPQR1977]

I fully support you. By the way, ordinary people have long been talking about this since the 90s.

[INTER]

Quote: Teberii

On All the keys you are only Russian posts or exits from central Russia.

In Dagestan, this question is not so simple as you say. There was a case, one was sent there by the Minister of Finance, so they lost him and found him in 3 days. After hurriedly left.
In order to fundamentally reverse the situation, it is necessary:
1. To block financing both external and internal (levies with individual entrepreneurs)
2. To reform education is the trouble of the whole of Russia.
3. Practice and communicate healthy Islamic knowledge that differs from terrorist knowledge like Black and White.
4. Sufism as one of the varieties, with all due respect to its representatives, is an Avar project, those are the project of one people, and there are more than 30 in Dagestan. As an alternative, you can consider the ideas of Shamil Alyaudinov, the imam of a mosque on the Mount of Worship. For the Sufis pull the blanket over themselves, sometimes it comes to the point that they praise their leaders more than necessary.
5. Muslims should be perceived as Russians, as their own respecting their values. Let me give you an example: recently, during one of the events, law enforcement officers went to the mosque with fumes and shoes. For a Muslim, this is an insult, no matter how patriotic the country may be, even with all my love for the homeland I would be angry with these people, I understand that this is a purely human factor and no one in the country's leadership is interested in what they do . And young preachers will present this picture from a different angle. For Muslims, this is the same as for parishioners of the church to see a naked man in him. Another unpleasant moment, finally separate the concepts of terrorism and Islam, criminals and Muslims. Muslims 2,5 billion, and all kinds of so-called terrorists, well, a million by force, this is a percentage of the total, but they insult everyone.
6. There are a lot of films in the country about Christians, about church life, or something like that. I have not seen a single film about Islam, its values, that Islam comes from a derivative of the word assalam i.e. peace.
7. At the expense of the leadership of the republic. There were facts of insulting the feelings of believers, I think if you don’t understand something, it’s better not to talk about it.
8. Our state invests a lot in the Caucasus, but very few people reach it. In one of the districts with a population of 60 thousand people, I did not see a single playground, there is not a single major sports complex, schools built in 30-60, mostly adobe and dilapidated, children go out of school as needed.
9. People do not have a job, why I wrote this last item, because this is not the main thing in religious practice and why they run to lay down. But, leadership puts precisely this in the chapter.
10. It is necessary to eradicate the causes, and not what happens after a negligent attitude to these issues. All who think that they can be shot are deeply mistaken. Citizens of our country perish in a strange game, both on that and on this side, but it could have been otherwise !!!!
This is a purely personal opinion !!!!

[Razvedka_Boem]

These girls came into the church .. and they all looked in silence .. But then, how much later there was a cold-drink. that they say this is a violation of Orthodoxy .. And in the mosque, can you imagine it? Maybe it's in people? These girls would not even get to the mosque .. And why weren’t they stopped at the entrance to the church?

[INTER]

Quote: Razvedka_Boem

Maybe it's in people? These girls would not even get to the mosque .. And why weren’t they stopped at the entrance to the church?

This was a comparison; I consider an encroachment on religion in any of its monotheistic forms unacceptable. Russia is the only bastion of free healthy observance of the canons of religion of the country. See what's going on in the rest of the world. Debauchery chaos and shamelessness. Although we have a percentage of those!

[uncle]

everything is simple here. The minister was lost, the elders of all the teip clans were lost.

[Severok]

Support.

[haybula]

In the Chechen-Ingush Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic, all Soviet times, the leader was always Russian. And what did you get? The first riots began precisely there. And save your advice of this kind for your wife, if she is. Look after your family better, and Dagestanis will figure out what and how to do without such decisions. Make sure that Maidan doesn’t work out in Moscow and St. Petersburg, otherwise all revolutions, the State Emergency Committee, coups happen there, and not in Dagestan and the Caucasus in general.

[Hon]

Tomorrow, these officials brought in from Moscow will not be alive, and protesters will come out into the streets who will scream that their rights are being infringed. It was already when they set up a tax specialist from Moscow, it’s good that they let him go alive

[From Udmurtia]

Hard work does not interest local authorities. Their interests are in a different direction. By the way, the largest subsidies in Russia from all regions go to Dagestan.

[Darkness]

But in the Moscow region there are more and more "bearded boys" from sunny Dagestan.

[Vitwin]

Quote: Darkness

But in the Moscow region there are more and more "bearded boys" from sunny Dagestan.

So this is probably the team of builders and finishers

[Throw]

We quote the classics:

"-As you can see, Felix Edmundovich, these ... do not want to work at all .."
VI Lenin.

"-There is an opinion, comrades, clans, to unite.
-In Dagestan?
-In Magadan! "
I.V. Stalin.

[ovod84]

Here we need a second Stalin, we are already tired of Ramadan A.

[alexej123]

Here where? Ramzan A. Where? Open the map of Russia - I explain to R.A. Kadyrov the head of Chechnya, in the article we are talking about Dagestan.

[ovod84]

About Ramadan Abdulnatipov and not Ramzan

[alexej123]

I apologize if I misunderstood. He is not Abdulnatipov, but Abdulatipov. And the question is, what are you tired of him? Have you been tired of S. Amirov, the former mayor for so many years? By the way, the Instrument-Making Plant in Makhachkala, a large defense enterprise - WAS. Many friends and relatives worked for me there. In the best years about 5 thousand people worked. They produced sophisticated equipment for the Air Force. Now what? Razderibanen plant in 1996 The raider was S. Amirov's guard, from whom you "did not get tired" for 20 years.

[cth; fyn]

10 years ago it was said that there are too many youth in Dagestan, too little work and radical Islamism

[rotmistr60]

10 years ago it was said ...

That was said, but what was done by the same leaders of Dagestan? It is probably good to lead the republic by receiving money from Moscow and distributing it among the members of your clan. Moreover, at the same time, being afraid of offending someone from another clan because of a possible blood feud. Dagestan has long been a new hot spot. Militants breed like flies; work with elders and youth is not conducted. Just that - we have youth without work, our own (mountain) laws, our mentality, etc. You do not meddle in our internal affairs, better help with money. The fruits of such a policy lead to a dead end, from which it is already difficult to get out.

[krops777]

If in the same Chechnya, the Wahhabi sphere was actually wiped out with close cooperation of the republican authorities and local clergy, then in Dagestan, radicalization is far from being reduced to nil.

In Chechnya, it was easier for Kadyrov, 98 percent of the population are Chechens, according to the way of life, the teip cell had to agree enough with the elders of these teips, and in Dagestan it’s more complicated than 18 nationalities, according to the way of life, everyone is different who wants to live in general.

[max702]

Alas, it seems that only the Stalinist method will work .. For example, Chechnya was flooded with money and tied to Kadyrov’s blood, BUT there will be no money and Kadyrov’s bloodloader can easily change his mind as it has happened in those parts .. Dagestan’s pouring money will be much more difficult because it is much more Chechnya, but no money for it, and what to do? It’s smart to look for and organize a figure similar to Kadyrov in Chechnya, other options for bloodshed and more expensive .. Here is a paradoxical conclusion from all of the above .. And the consequence of this is a systemic error in behavior with the same Chechnya .. They wanted money and they got it even I had to fight for this, Dagestan also wants money, and tomorrow looking at them and the rest will want the same too .. That's the question, what to do? Build a bunch of money organizing investments so that people live richly? Well, but what is so valuable Dagestan can produce? Industry? Well, well .. Even during the Soviet Union, one does not recall a single industrial product from those parts that would be famous for quality and necessity, cognac and CX products? Partly yes, but there the percentage of employed and therefore the return on invested funds will be minimal. Tourism is not bad, but also miserable. In a word, the region has polo ambitions and hoteliers with an absolute inability to do anything .. they reached such an impasse thanks to a decision with Chechnya in the form of pouring money in the 2000s .. So it remains to keep the security forces there in necessary quantities periodically extinguishing fires ..

[Rastas]

In Dagestan they remember the USSR with nostalgia. And do not say that they did nothing there except cognac. And agricultural products? Following the fishing, winemaking, oil and cheese and other sectors of the food industry, completely new industries for him appeared in Dagestan - oil, machine-building, instrument-making, gas, glass, and chemical. Significant reconstruction was made by the canning, textile and leather industries. People were busy, and now?

[alexej123]

Yes, in Makhachkala alone there were about 5 defense plants. Plus in Kaspiysk "Dagdizel" and in Kizlyar "KEMZ". That is about 10. And the factories were not small. Of all, only "Dagdizel" operates, it produces civilian products for commercial ships and military products for the needs of the Navy. There were enterprises, there were specialists with a high level of education, which in turn also had a positive effect on interpersonal, interethnic and interreligious relations. THE LEVEL OF SOVIET EDUCATION. Now it is a VACUUM that followers of extremism are happy to fill. After all, look, the destroyed bandits, almost all, are about 30 years old. That is, they received their education in the "Roaring 90s". Plus, in the 90s, there was a massive departure of Russian speakers to other regions.

[max702]

Quote: alexej123

90s - mass departure of Russian speakers to other regions.

So you answered the question of the article .. What, why, where it came from .. To change the situation for the better, in addition to this most important factor, you need another no less important, namely MONEY! For everything that was during the USSR was either destroyed or outdated morally and physically .. And who will do it? We have in technologically advanced regions where people without exception with bright heads and golden hands do not want to invest, but here the children of mountains ..

[alexej123]

I would not simplify the problem like that. Yes, this is one of the reasons.

[alexej123]

I have already written - the Dagdizel plant - was making good diesel engines for the low-tonnage (sorry, not special) fleet. You can still list, but you can judge by the "store counters".

[Monster_Fat]

The problem is in the Caucasian mentality: it is a sin for men in the Caucasus to work with their hands, work is the lot of women and slaves. Here is robbing someone, selling someone and something, being a "boss" is yes, this is for men. Those who have been to the Caucasus know how all the men there wear shoe brushes and always clean their shoes, removing the slightest dirt, this is just to show that he is a man and does not work on the ground. That is why the Wahhabis who preach "pure" Islam and life according to "Sharia law" are strong there. How to deal with this? In fact, there is a way out. You just need to send all male youth to study abroad at public expense, but not to Muslim countries, but to European or Asian countries such as the USA, Europe and China. Experience shows that such young people who have been trained abroad in "civilized" countries do not return from there, and all these extremist enclaves in the Caucasus will quickly "wither away" due to the lack of active male youth. At first glance, this path may seem somewhat costly, but it will pay off in the future.

[would]

So male youth is sent to Moscow, which is very European. Do you need to voice the effectiveness level?

[Dora2014]

You did not understand the idea. Why in my own country ?! After all, countries are invited to send to foreign countries - let their head hurt. A very reasonable idea. The USSR at one time sent Bukovsky abroad - that is England now with a pedophile ...

[would]

I just understood that. After the miracles of the "Tozherosians" abroad, they are deported back to the country, and this is at best. Although something tells me that 100 balls on the Unified State Exam corny will not pull foreign universities. And those who were in the terrorist underground will raise it there.

[yuri p]

nonsense, you write about Georgians, but not about Dagestan, you can blame Dagestanis for many sins, but not in the absence of hard work, if only there is an opportunity to earn money.

[kill the fascist]

nonsense, accidentally Caucasians are not mixed up with gypsies? in the Caucasus, man has always been a getter

[kill the fascist]

nonsense, accidentally Caucasians are not mixed up with gypsies? in the Caucasus, man has always been a getter

[dauria]

You just need to send all male youth to study abroad at a government expense,

Fuck, send my grandchildren to Oxford at the state expense. (nothing that the muzzle is Mordovian) And just to force to live according to the principle, "as you drown, and burst" is impossible? Or is it only for the rest of the Russian Federation, and there are special ones? When there is nothing to eat, a person will go either to work or to steal and plunder (if he can). You just need to make sure that he robbed THERE, and not outside Dagestan. And when the poor life of the bulk gets fed up, then allies to our bodies will appear there.

[haybula]

Where do you get such information that it’s a sin to work with your hands in the Caucasus? It's a lie. Caucasians are required to work at least something, but provide for their families. Do not carry nonsense without knowing the subject of conversation. What other brushes? Judging by what you write, you should be sent to study somewhere in Australia.

[Rastas]

You talk nonsense. How does the Dagestanis not like to work? Do women work in agriculture, in the mountains? Because there was work before, clanism was also there, but not as huge as it is today, therefore there was no extremism.

[Fox]

Quote: Monster_Fat

The problem is in the Caucasian mentality: for men in the Caucasus, working with hands is a sin, work is the lot of women and slaves.

strange ... familiar Georgians-riders, Azerbaijanis and Armenians car mechanics and motorists, Ossetians galvanic ... I’m silent about the builders of the Caucasians, are they all outcasts? You should not confuse empty-handed morons with normal people and dunk everyone.

[DON-100]

Quote: Monster_Fat

The problem is in the Caucasian mentality: it is a sin for men in the Caucasus to work with their hands, work is the lot of women and slaves. Here is robbing someone, selling someone and something, being a "boss" is yes, this is for men. Those who have been to the Caucasus know how all the men there wear shoe brushes and always clean their shoes, removing the slightest dirt, this is just to show that he is a man and does not work on the ground.

Yeah .. what can’t you read here, about brushes it’s generally something I’ll tell my friends they’ll get crazy, but the pluses are how many "experts" of the Caucasian mentality have taught
Come to Dagestan and see who and how works here on the ground, in construction sites, in production, in various workshops and in the mass of other places where people work with their hands, maybe then you’ll get a little wiser.

[Full name]

Greater stupidity cannot be imagined, excuse me for being categorical. Firstly, how do you imagine this "sending to Europe and the United States", by stage in a heating plant? Secondly, do Europe and the United States know about this and of course dream of receiving another portion of Muslims? And finally, in the same civilized Europe, there are plenty of opportunities to join Wahhabism. Well, the statement: "It is a sin to work with your hands in the Caucasus", to put it mildly, does not correspond to reality.

[pimen]

dropping this remaining ballast and strengthening the border is the wisest decision

[320423]

As a result, only Moscow will remain with this approach. Even at the early stages of this problem, my friend from Dagestan said that it was local bandits who were mowing down the ISIS, but now I have a feeling that the local criminals have merged with emissaries from the settling pit in the form of various groups of the Middle East. After all, there is a lot of money there, for example, at least the sale of drugs, "protection" or the use of labor migrants from Central Asia, etc. Well, plus to everything, various special services of Turkey, Saudis, Qatar and even hell knows who ...
So, for me, this is a large complex of problems, to which, it seems to me, little attention is paid in our state because of HARRY (will pass by itself).
And by the way, the relatively recent "situevina" with markets and bases in Moscow was not in Dagestan, but in the capital of our Motherland, so my opinion is that in this case Islam is a sign, which, incidentally, will not cancel the problems of working with imams from traditional Islam.
Although the very concept of Islam is not very clear to me (Salafists, Sunnis, Shiites, Alawites, traditional Islam)

[pimen]

will not remain. In fact, it turns out, even after the collapse, to get along with the Tatars and Bashkirs, I generally keep quiet about Buddhists. And the Caucasus is one continuous, eternal hemorrhoid. Earlier there, though, there were "fellow believers" - Georgia and Armenia.

[320423]

Once again, I remind the problems were already in Moscow several years ago. And according to Stanovsky's statements (although I do not share his statements in every way, considering him biased), there are also problems in Tatarstan, only they are hushed up. And He also gave out that the cells "igil / daish" were marked in Yakitia, in Yakutia KARL !!! So it seems to me that the problems are not being solved. I repeat - it will resolve itself, and then "Dagestan".

[pimen]

well, you still mention that the Russians are also working in ISIS

[alexej123]

They fight, I don’t know in ISIS, but they were in Wahhabis, my childhood friend.

[pimen]

but it makes no difference, just compare the targeted (routine) cleansing of the FSB from "garbage", and the ever-memorable "deportation of peoples" in Stalin's style. Rhetorical question: which is better?

[Pvi1206]

This situation is the result of education (TV) and the lack of a life perspective for young people (no jobs).
The state has withdrawn from solving these problems.
In modern Russia, economic gain prevails over morality. Hence the result ..

[yuri p]

"The main question is: what is wrong in Dagestan? .. Why are the mayors of cities and the heads of the republic itself changing, and what is the whole story, as they say, is there? Why the terrorist underground in recent years has been very at ease in Dagestan, and why law enforcement agencies have to "Hit the tails", risking both their own lives and the lives of the civilian population? "..... Law enforcement sources told LifeNews that the house of the head of the Pension Fund of Dagestan Sagid Murtazaliev has been cordoned off by security forces in the village of Cherny Kamni in Makhachkala. According to preliminary information, a search is underway there.



"- Investigative measures are now being carried out on the territory of the house, FSB officers are working," the source said.

Murtazaliev’s guards are trying to hinder the work of the FSB. The subordinate heads of the Dagestan Pension Fund barricaded themselves with weapons in the building.

Sagid Murtazaliev, head of the Pension Fund of Dagestan
Sagid Murtazaliev, head of the Pension Fund of Dagestan
Recall that the head of the Kizlyar district, Andrei Vinogradov, was previously detained. The operation was carried out in the early morning. FSB special forces advanced on the “tigers” from Ossetian Mozdok, crossed the territory of Chechnya, and in Dagestan surrounded the house of the head of the Kizlyar district Andrei Vinogradov with a triple ring, Kavpolit reports.

The CTO regime was announced in the area at 3 a.m. After that, the special forces fighters went to the assault. Vinogradov’s guards tried to resist, but they neutralized her. The Kizlyar police department, who was raised by Vinogradov, also tried to intervene, but the FSB officers disarmed them. The official himself also resisted, as a result he received minor bodily harm.

During a search in the house of Vinogradov, several units of automatic rifled weapons with sawn numbers were found, a Dragunov sniper rifle, ready-to-use IEDs and elements for its manufacture, as well as a plastic bag with anasha.

According to the FSB, Andrei Vinogradov was in charge of a criminal group that was responsible for five murders. The gang is also suspected of economic crimes and financing illegal armed groups. ".......... Murtazaliev, the former head of the Kizlyar region, left Vinogradova for reign, and Murtazaliev was the man who brought the Wahhabite militants to The district, which was the most calm in relation to other districts of Dagestan, and sponsored these militants through the budget of the district, seized the post of chairman of the pension fund of Dagestan in a bandit way, hacked the chairman's office and reigned in the pension fund, and this is under the patronage of Abdulatipov , the head of Dagestan, which is no better than this bandit, Abdulatipov closed many branches of universities in Dagestan.
it’s their duty to pay tribute, and who should fight crime when the government itself is a crime, Putin’s protege Abdulatipov didn’t do that, the head of the republic should be Russian, and so the special services don’t work from this region and answer only to the president subordinate to the head of the republic and not informing the local power structures about their actions, they can then put things in order. And everything will be the same as before, will not give anything to change the head (if he comes from the nationalities of the republic) and sooner or later they will corrupt him. it’s impossible to refuse to relatives, but the system itself, you, I tell you, existing in the country does not give a chance to improve the situation.

[BLACK-SHARK-64]

corruption throughout the country ....

[Million]

The death penalty must be returned

[yehat]

So what? Do you think every guy will be scared of this?
they already know that participating in terror can run into a bullet
Nooo! need to introduce a moral penalty!
something that an enthusiast cannot put up with, so to speak
under Stalin, one of these measures was the repression of relatives
perhaps something more effective and humane can be invented.

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perhaps something more effective and humane can be invented.
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Something in Israel does not cease to blow up and kill.

[ver_]

... anachreon - it would be a desire, but everything can be done without any formality, if this is not done - it means there is interest in other places in this place elsewhere .. Any person - the vessel is very fragile ...

[pig killer]

Dagestan is now like a sleeping Yellowstone volcano. Actively work Turkish, Saudi and other agents. Therefore, the federal authorities are continuously preventing bandit underground, as you can’t rely on local satraps.

[Tambov Wolf]

Decide the same way as in Chechnya. Put the largest clan at the head and give the opportunity to destroy the rest. Recall General Ermolov. He was a good man, the kingdom of heaven to him. The whole Caucasus was shaking. There was no liberalism. So now it is necessary.

[CRASH]

It was like this, Amirov stood in power, shot everyone, and they would still shoot and have blown up, now that he has sat down, it has become most quiet here, many have already been killed, who was related to him, the same Hajidadayev, whom Amirov cultivated. Now there are more federals, and it has become quieter, let them hammer them further. The main thing is that they hammer, and not as before, looked through our fingers, shot the homeless and threw the trunks.

[Demeter]

I will take the liberty to voice what the author of the article was silent about. 1) The Akinsky district of Dagestan is inhabited not by Dagestanis, but by Chechens, and not just Chechens, but by scumbags, who were expelled from Chechnya itself for `` bad '' behavior. Akintsy actively supported Dudayev's Islamic terrorists, they lay down on the roads preventing the passage of federal troops, they secretly threw grenades at the Russian soldiers. 2) In order to eliminate terrorism as a phenomenon in the Russian Federation, it is necessary: ​​1) Introduce the death penalty in the Russian Federation for terrorists and their accomplices, regardless of gender and age. 2) To deport from Russia those who were trained in the Saudi Salafi madrassas, because it is the Salafi trend of Islam that is the breeding ground for Islamic terrorism. 3) Eliminate in the Russian Federation all organizations with Saudi funding, because it is these organizations that are engaged in the dissemination of radical Islamic literature of a terrorist nature on the territory of the Russian Federation and finance the activities of the terrorists themselves.

[haybula]

I will specify
There is simply no Akinsky district in Dagestan.

[Demeter]

Legally, there is no Akinsky district in Dagestan, but in fact it is. This is a place of compact residence of Chechens, Akins, who widely supported Islamic terrorists Dudaev ...

[fzr1000]

As the classic used to say: "Religion is an opium for the people." They allowed freedom of religion, removed the Communist Party of the Soviet Union, the vacuum was quickly filled, and filled with much more that was not in RI before 1917. And everything was left to chance. Now we are reaping the benefits.
It was necessary to ban the religious propaganda of any faiths. Pray at home or in a special place. There are no religious institutes and schools, except for 10 people per denomination per year, to serve the cult. Maybe even less. Do not produce them. Whoever violates is credited with inciting ethnic and religious hatred. And all the priests, mullahs, etc. must be on a pencil and once a year pass certification with religious scholars and psychologists, where it would be possible to weed out various violent ones. Wahhabism and the like should be outlawed and punishable by large punishments without the right to parole. Let them study religion in prison. Or expel from the country with deprivation of citizenship. And raise the level of education, and not what is being done now. And stop building churches, mosques. Where are there so many? Or build away from housing. Whoever needs it will go, and whoever only portrays them as a very pious, but in fact a hypocrite, he will quickly stop going there. After all, the 21st century is in the yard, but as if the Middle Ages.

[Turkir]

As the classic said: "The religion of the opium of the people."

[haybula]

I am a Dagestani and from the inside I know very well what is happening here. There is a lot of terror in Dagestan. This is true. But by no means unemployment is the reason. Most often, the fighters are well-to-do children who do not need anything, with the "education" of local bottling. For example, children of federal judges, prosecutors, chiefs of internal affairs bodies, teachers and professors. So unemployment and low economic well-being are swept aside right away. In general, those who believe that the Republics of the Caucasus are poor are wrong. Caucasians are hard-working people and do not live in poverty at all. The main reason for the rampant terror in Dagestan is corruption, methods of forming power, which are not at all an invention of Dagestan. It is advantageous for officials of federal structures to portray Dagestan to the poor in order to pump in an unmeasured amount of subsidies here and receive kickbacks from them. Power in Dagestan was never formed by the Dagestanis - this must be remembered and not forgotten. So it doesn't matter whether the official is Russian or Dagestani, he is still appointed from Moscow. The appointee selects personnel for himself according to any criteria, but not by professionalism, not by competence. Now about the clannishness. There are clans. And they get along very well with themselves. Divide grants, posts, states, ministries. When a clan lacks privileges, they open a ministry, when someone needs to be removed, they close or reorganize. All branches of government (executive, legislative, judicial, media, and others) are under religious authority and are not at all responsible to the population. No responsibility. Because nobody chooses anyone. All are appointed by the Head of the Republic. You can write a lot about all this. But it won't get any better. It is in such an environment that the soil arises for the imposition of young people who have a very low level of education, harmful and false goals. All this effect is, of course, further enhanced by external religious, ideological influence with financial support.

[Rastas]

The responsibility of the authorities to the people, accountability of the authorities to the people, equality before the law, the inevitability of punishment for corruption - this is the guarantee of victory over terrorism, but this will not happen with such power. By the way, but there are interesting reasons why the children of prosecutors and judges go to terrorists? Is it not because, by their own example, they see all the rot of the system?

[BLACK-SHARK-64]

Reasoning very correctly ....

[Ozhogin Dmitry]

Enough, too, to let the dust in your eyes. The reason is the extreme hatred of Russians. With the connivance of the authorities. And all the power that comes is connected in one way or another with the militants. When they spit on tolerance and "human rights", then the problem will be solved very quickly. In the meantime, you might think that all this is still beneficial to someone.

[haybula]

What kind of hatred are you talking about? There is more harm from people like you than from terrorists. Sit at computers and write the devil knows what. Why Russian hate? They were doctors, teachers, when there were no local personnel. Many remained for life to work and live in the mountains of Dagestan. Do not talk nonsense.

[haybula]

I believe that children, seeing the dual nature of their parents, who say one thing and do the other, because of youthful maximalism and other factors acting on them, choose the path of struggle, which they, for lack of experience, knowledge and much more, take for righteous

[alexej123]

I will support you, I myself am from there, there are relatives and friends, I visit from time to time. We lived in a 100 apartment building. Nearby there are 3 more smaller ones, the yard was shared. Several years ago, a Russian friend's father died. They were buried by the whole yard, the commemoration was held until late at night. Everyone helped with the funeral - Lezgins, Azerbaijanis, Laks, Avars, although the family did not live in poverty, they simply saw off everyone on their last journey. So, about hatred of Russian-speaking people is a clear "overkill".

[koshmarik]

In Dagestan, unlike the whole of Russia, a completely different socio-economic system is feudal-clan, which ultimately determines the policies of Dagestan. Until it is destroyed and replaced by traditional market relations, the state of affairs in the country will not change. There are many ways of such a replacement - I think the Russian leadership will eventually find the most acceptable.

[Zaurbek]

In Dagestan, in a significant% of special operations, the local security forces simply calculate separately living young people and arrange assaults, throw up weapons and then hang up their rewards. From Dagestan, the most massive outflow of youth goes to other regions and abroad. Plus, a little busy population. And since the Caucasian peoples do not forgive crimes, the offended go to take revenge. in the 90s-02s, in a certain area of ​​Makhachkala, they regularly blew up and fired at the PPS patrol from the local police station.
unlike other republics, many nationalities live in Dagestan, of which 3-4 are the largest, and accordingly, a struggle for influence and cash flows takes place between them, and everyone does not care about the economy.
Conclusion: all leadership positions, except for parliamentary ones, need to be assigned not to local cadres, but to deputies should be given more authority, for greater significance.

[Suhov]

Quote: Ingvar 72

к three linguistic families

Inspired by:
How many tongues do you own?
Trum!
Russian - with a dictionary,
Military - according to the charter,
Obscene - to perfection!

[Vadim42]

I read the comments, surprised! There are few healthy ones, mostly people are swimming.

[pimen]

well, would enlighten. And we would appreciate ...

[Alexey-74]

Let us return to the theses: if this happens, then it is beneficial to someone, .... the whole question is to whom ...?

[CRASH]

What is wrong with Dagestan?
Well, let's start with the fact that here zp according to Moscow reports, 25 thousand is average, but in fact, if you get 10, well done. Clanism in all spheres of the republic’s life, you won’t get a job in the Pension Fund, Gas spheres, state apparatus, the police, if you are not a relative of the local chief or senior employee, that is, if I became the head of the department, I put all my relatives' children in the department, work is inherited)
There is no labor exchange as such, few people look at the announcements on Avito and work05ru. In the center of employment, only scrubber driers and a locksmith for 5-9 thousand salaries. The next factor is ubiquitous lawlessness, cops do whatever, throw grass on a pocket, or a cartridge in the trunk, then "piss on two fingers" (our car was searched, perfume was stolen from the glove compartment)) Next comes radical Islamization, it cultivates lawlessness watch the cops, detained for an "unshaven beard" well, a person likes it, let him wear it, detained him, kept him in the receiver for 3-4 hours, released him, the man got angry, there are a lot of them. And lastly, the authorities absolutely do not care about all of the above, Abdulatipov with his gamzatov is everywhere worn, he builds museums in his honor, which he didn’t stick with, renames the streets, blocks roads when he goes to work, people stand for 20-40 minutes while he from home to work will get there. This is just the tip of the iceberg, there are much more problems, oh yes, there is still easy access to drugs, and a social abyss, if you are no one, you don’t get anywhere, then one way remains, to take by force.

PS I'm from Makhachkala, I know what I'm writing about.

[gerk]

I agree: the author of the article IMHO missed, it seems to me, one of the main aspects, according to the data, including and from open sources through Dagestan passes drug trafficking of Afghan heroin with all the consequences ...

[Razvedka_Boem]

How do you begin to understand the difference between Sunnis and Shiites ... for example, I understand the difference between Catholics and Orthodox .. and between Protestants and Jews ..) How do you begin to understand that Islam is also multifaceted and you can’t judge it by watching the news, then the dialogue will begin.
Py.Sy. Hello from Ireland.

[Cartalon]

The tour industry should be developed there, if the income of the population will depend on the number of visitors, the desire to shoot will be stopped in the bud.

[wanderer_032]

Quote: Cartalon

The tour industry should be developed there, if the income of the population will depend on the number of visitors, the desire to shoot will be stopped in the bud.

But still, first you need to make sure that they stop shooting. Otherwise, who wants to go there?

[wanderer_032]

What is wrong with Dagestan? Why is the republic in the lead in the number of reports of the National Anti-Terrorism Committee?

This is probably because "friendly" Azerbaijan and Georgia are close by ...

[MMX]

A very strange article. Just all the facts in question indicate that the work is proceeding quite fruitfully. It would be different if the bandits were free and alive and well ...

[Denis Skiff]

We need good preachers of Islam, literate.

[alexej123]

You know, I thought about it too. Gather the clergy, all the links, the elders and ask - dear ones, why there are no massive extremist movements in other world religions, but are present in Islam? Does it mean something is wrong? So somewhere there are gaps that criminals are using them? Here is your task to identify them and develop measures to explain these "fine" lines to believers. And put them into practice. Well, at the same time, continue prevention and operational-combat actions to neutralize.

[Shustov]

Well, here's an example for all of the couch warriors of Russia and an example of why you don't all come here to help Dagestan (probably afraid for your relatives?) Well, at least as volunteers !? And then there are many tinkling about patriotism and betrayal, it is necessary to lay out a list of "patriots" with their nonsense in relation to guys from Donbass, about "freebies" and in general who are "kakly" for patriots from VO.

[tolmachiev51]

Another "lover" to chat about "right and wrong" religion. A person must first be fed, and only then vparivat about spiritual values. Poverty is the root cause of all discontent in any state.

[cedar]

Until the state has an ideology of state building, the life of the peoples of Russia will proceed according to the saying "Who goes to the forest, and who gets firewood," and even from those firewoods we have partners ... so that life would not seem like paradise! So that in the end Russia fell apart into pieces that could be devoured. Those who want to profit in bulk!
But ideology in the Russian Federation is FORBIDDEN by the Constitution of the Russian Federation! The Anglo-Saxons wrote it to us precisely with an eye to cut the huge Russian pie into national pieces, destinies that would be easy to share with the new owners!
The Constitution of Russia -BRAKES of Russia! A review of a number of its main articles is necessary! It was approved by a referendum in 1993, obliged to change it by a referendum, i.e. remove Russia from the brazenly American brake!