Brazil will acquire armored vehicles Iveco LMV

The Brazilian Defense Ministry will purchase a shipment of Iveco LMV (4х4) armored cars from Italians, a blog reports bmpd with reference to the magazine "Jane's Defense Weekly".

In the near future, the military will begin negotiations with Iveco over the acquisition of “the first 32 LMV machines in a multi-purpose configuration,” the procurement management of the Brazilian Ministry of Defense reports.

"After the" direct "purchase of 32 light armored vehicles from the manufacturer, it is planned to purchase two more batches of 77 armored vehicles for the Brazilian army in each of seven variants (multipurpose, command and staff, a light anti-tank missile, a carrier for reconnaissance radar, a vehicle EW and machines of advanced artillery observers), ”the article says.

At the same time, the first 77 vehicles will be assembled in Brazil from Italian vehicle sets, and subsequent ones will be manufactured under the license “with an increased share of localization”.

It is also reported that "LMV machines in Brazil should be equipped with a remote-controlled machine gun REMAX (Reparo de Metralhadora Automatizado X) assembled by ARES Aeroespacial & Defesa (Brazilian branch of the Israeli group Elbit Systems)."

Lightweight armored vehicle Iveco LMV and armored personnel carrier VBTP-MR Guarani (right) developed and manufactured by the Iveco group for the Brazilian army

Comments

[oleg-gr]

Brazil is warm. There the oil will not freeze. There are only a lot of wild monkeys. Suddenly they want to ride without demand?

[Error]

Iveco is g .... What I think they themselves can collect their counterpart He didn’t even pass the obstacles at the exhibition, but went around!

[lukke]

Iveco is g .... What I think they themselves can collect their counterpart He didn’t even pass the obstacles at the exhibition, but went around!

and yet

In May 2010, it was reported that the Rio de Janeiro police intend to test the "Tiger" - if the car is found satisfying the requirements, it will replace the vehicles currently used by the special forces. In the future, the Brazilian police plans to use the car to enforce law and order at the 2014 FIFA World Cup and the 2016 Olympics.

it turns out .. who drives ?! There can be a lot of different things ...

[Andrey K]

Well, for Brazil, maybe they will do, there is a good diesel engine inside. And so, a bibika for "pokatushek", a rather weak protivominka. The declared protection class raises a lot of questions from specialists. A fiction about the presence of an armored capsule, or rather the presence of a "dummy" for an armored capsule. The inability to fire from the cabin is simply due to the lack of loopholes. And so on and so forth ...
Beautiful toy

[RUSS]

Quote: Andrey K

Beautiful toy

Maybe so, only our military "ride" them in Syria

[Andrey K]

Everything is correct. In the photo Iveco LMV M65 Lynx. Only this is not quite what the article is about. You have shown a license with adaptation to our requirements. Released under the memorable Serdyukov under the name "Lynx", they are no longer produced, since their own armored vehicles "Tiger" and analogues from KAMAZ are being produced ...

[RUSS]

Quote: Andrey K

Only this is not quite what is written in the article.

If not quite then what is the difference?

Quote: Andrey K

You showed a license with adaptation to our requirements.

What is changed in the Russian version?

[Andrey K]

There were attempts by KAMAZ to increase mine protection. There is something with the presence of ceramics in the side projections and the absence of the bottom. I was not interested in the details.

[cdrt]

Quote: Andrey K

or rather the presence of a "dummy" for an armored capsule

The model is Tiger-6A, which, like a Schrödinger cat, is at the same time (in applications, pictures) and not (tested, purchased, manufactured).

[tiredwithall]

The president is impeachment, the armies are Italian armored vehicles, the people are the Olympics. Have fun in connection with the cancellation of carnivals.

[vladimirw]

And our "Tigers" are no longer quoted?

[tiredwithall]

Why are they going to fight there?

[mav1971]

Quote: vladimirw

And our "Tigers" are no longer quoted?

Who will buy the Tigers?
If the manufacturing country of the Tiger itself signed a contract for 360 Italians and produced them on its territory ???

Italians have Amer engines, the whole machine (from around the world) is assembled in pieces - parts are easy to purchase.
And what about the Tiger?
Wait a year until the pieces of iron sail by sea?

[tiredwithall]

Where are they in a hurry? They can also wait by the sea on the beaches.

[RUSS]

Quote: vladimirw

And our "Tigers" are no longer quoted?

We are quoted!
Armored vehicles "Tiger" with the module "Crossbow-DM" began to enter the troops.

The first batch of Tiger-M armored vehicles with the Arbalet-DM combat module was transferred to the Russian troops, RIA Novosti reported with reference to the general director of the Armory Workshops company Dmitry Galkin.

"Within the framework of state tests," Arbalet-DM "has demonstrated its high characteristics, including the ability to operate in the temperature range from -40 to +50 degrees, which makes it possible to use it in any climatic zone of our country, as well as abroad", - said Galkin.


The module includes a 12,7 mm Kord machine gun or a 7,62 mm PKTM machine gun, and in addition, it has four 3D grenade launchers, 6D3, 6D3M or 17D2,5. "Crossbow-DM" is fully stabilized and has the ability to capture and automatically track the target, which allows the operator to conduct effective fire both from a place and in motion. A television camera recognizes an APC target at a distance of 1,5 kilometers, thermal imaging - up to XNUMX kilometers.

[cdrt]

Quote: RUSS

We are quoted!

And what about PMZ?
Her absence is somehow bashfully silent.
Judging by the many years of silence, the Tiger-6A successfully failed

[RUSS]

Quote: cdrt

Judging by the many years of silence, the Tiger-6A successfully failed

Tiger-6A does not produce ....

[cdrt]

Quote: vladimirw

And our "Tigers" are no longer quoted?

And what, is Tiger-6A in reality, in procurement, in the troops?
And not just in pictures and promises.
It seems that many years ago they promised to do it, but we’ve been waiting for something all, straightforwardly not even 3 years, as the proverb says.

[RUSS]

Quote: cdrt

Quote: vladimirw

And our "Tigers" are no longer quoted?

And what, is Tiger-6A in reality, in procurement, in the troops?
And not just in pictures and promises.
It seems that many years ago they promised to do it, but we’ve been waiting for something all, straightforwardly not even 3 years, as the proverb says.

Apparently, the "tiger" was quietly pushed back to the Ministry of Internal Affairs or the Russian Guard, in the Russian army, the "tiger" was abandoned in intelligence in favor of the BMP-3, the "scorpion" is on its way, and the "wolf" is being tested, not to mention that "typhoon" has already been put into service.

[cdrt]

Quote: RUSS

Quote: cdrt

Quote: vladimirw

And our "Tigers" are no longer quoted?

And what, is Tiger-6A in reality, in procurement, in the troops?
And not just in pictures and promises.
It seems that many years ago they promised to do it, but we’ve been waiting for something all, straightforwardly not even 3 years, as the proverb says.

Apparently, the "tiger" was quietly pushed back to the Ministry of Internal Affairs or the Russian Guard, in the Russian army, the "tiger" was abandoned in intelligence in favor of the BMP-3, the "scorpion" is on its way, and the "wolf" is being tested, not to mention that "typhoon" has already been put into service.

Scorpio - not a replacement for the Tiger - the command vehicle, no more. Yes, and PMZ against 0.4 or 0.6 kg only. Although this is quite comparable with the Tiger.
And the Wolf - they’ve been finalizing everything, for 5 years the EMNIP has been modifying everything.
So, the SV will live without cars with PMZ.

[demiurg]

Are the favelas going to clean? So there you need an adult machine, such as BTR-80 (it will come out cheaper and by the way)
And this UAZ with a capsule for riding generals and parades.

[mav1971]

Quote: demiurg

Are the favelas going to clean? So there you need an adult machine, such as BTR-80 (it will come out cheaper and by the way)
And this UAZ with a capsule for riding generals and parades.

This UAZ has excellent mine protection ... By the way ...

[Pinkie F.]

Quote: demiurg

Are the favelas going to clean? So there you need an adult machine, such as BTR-80

An armored personnel carrier in favelas is strong.

[RUSS]

Quote: demiurg

Are the favelas going to clean?

To "clean up" favelas

On the basis of "Almaty" will create the latest combat vehicle "Terminator-3"

The newest Terminator-3 Tank Support Fighting Vehicle (BMPT) will be created on the basis of the Armata universal combat platform. About this in an interview with RIA Novosti, said CEO of Uralvagonzavod Oleg Sienko.
According to him, a common platform will help bring about a uniform repair kit, spare tools and accessories. This, according to Sienko, will allow you to quickly change the various components and assemblies of military vehicles. He also said that on the new platform it is planned to put a ship’s cannon of 57 mm caliber with a range of 16 km.

“Militants have nothing to do against such a machine. Yes, they are expensive, but how effective are they. Therefore, we believe that there are prospects, ”concluded the CEO of Uralvagonzavod.

Now there are BMPTs, which are unofficially called "Terminator" and "Terminator-2." According to data from the Uralvagonzavod website, the Terminator is designed to suppress enemy tanks and infantry fighting vehicles, defeat lightly armored targets, and also to combat helicopters and low-flying low-speed aircraft. Both BMPTs were developed on the chassis of the T-72 tank.

[Glaz8000]

I think that the Brazilian Defense Ministry comprehensively examined the various options and chose the most suitable. Especially since:

At the same time, the first 77 vehicles will be assembled in Brazil from Italian vehicle sets, and subsequent ones will be manufactured under the license “with an increased share of localization”.

And this is jobs and some kind of experience for their own defense industry.

[demiurg]

Quote: mav1971

This UAZ has excellent mine protection ... By the way ...

I agree. But in favelas, the KPVT is more useful, taking into account the fact that not so long ago, a year ago, with similar sweeps, a police helicopter was shot down there. But anti-tank mines are unlikely to be set there.

[mav1971]

Quote: demiurg

Quote: mav1971

This UAZ has excellent mine protection ... By the way ...

I agree. But in favelas, the KPVT is more useful, taking into account the fact that not so long ago, a year ago, with similar sweeps, a police helicopter was shot down there. But anti-tank mines are unlikely to be set there.

I think that not only about favelas ...
By the way, our helicopters, including against the Brazilian drug mafia raising its head.
And this is the jungle, impassable roads and, as an option, the mining of these same roads ... Anyway, sites open in the jungle.
Colombian drug cartels have successfully practiced this.

[Pinkie F.]

Quote: mav1971

I think that not only about favelas ...

yes what, nafig, equipment in favelas? To bury yourself in the first extreme hut? Or accidentally fall into the ocean? What does the favela have to do with it? In addition to the favela, by the way, there are also working suburbs there, quite an urban landscape. At least in El Salvador. Police are patrolling Chevrolet pickups, three in a car.

[mav1971]

Quote: Pinky F.

yes what, nafig, equipment in favelas? To bury yourself in the first extreme hut? Or accidentally fall into the ocean?

You know ... there are even roads in the favelas ... and some are 5-6 meters wide of the roadway ....
Do not think that there are only chicken coops ...
Many roads lead to these chicken coops.

[Pinkie F.]

Quote: mav1971

You know ... there are even roads in the favelas ... and some are 5-6 meters wide of the roadway ....

maybe in gentrified favelas, I admit it. Only there is no one to clean up, there is already a middle class and higher, including tourists. Marginal people are in the "chicken coops".

[Pinkie F.]

Quote: demiurg

But in favelas it is more useful

In fact, the feds, relying on the Haitian experience, believe that a bulldozer is more useful in favelas)

[cdrt]

Quote: demiurg

But anti-tank mines are unlikely to be set there.

Mines are unlikely, and explosive devices from several kg of C4 are easy. That's why they buy a car with a proven PMZ in the war.

[From Samara]

Great car, made for people, they know how to think about convenience! And at us the Designers think only of the phrase from the charter, the soldier must endure all the hardships and difficulties, therefore they do not bother once again ...

[demiurg]

Quote: mav1971

Four axles on the road are clearly better than two. And the landing is 8 people, and not 3 (driver, module operator and three paratroopers. And yet KPVT
These are forever, they are certainly beautiful, only to fight them is not comme il faut. Ceramic armor after each battle to change, no money is enough (its module only to change, hefty). And the hole in the armor can simply be brewed (again, not quite easy, but cheaper than changing the armor plate). The maximum is police cars, against the riots of fans / bullies. But not against fighters with RPG / machine guns 12.7mm. Hummers Americans for some reason sell. Instead, they take heavier cars, such as the Typhoon, at least.

[cdrt]

Quote: demiurg

Four off-road axles are definitely better than two

And the weight and dimensions are, as it were, 2 times more than Iveco

[demiurg]

Quote: Pinky F.

In fact, the feds, relying on the Haitian experience, believe that a bulldozer is more useful in favelas)

The bulldozer will sort the barricade, and then what? Will it cover with fire or quickly withdraw the squad from under fire? And you need not just a bulldozer, but a protected one, it costs a lot for special equipment.
And on the issue of amenities, modern models of armored personnel carriers are already available with an anti-splinter lining, and normal seats.

[zadorin1974]

Look at the experience of the IDF, they have been successfully using armored bulldozers for operations in the Gaza Strip for quite a long time. Chariots and leopards are used to cover and transport personnel, it is better not to meddle in the favelas on our armored personnel carriers, the chain mail is thin.

[demiurg]

Quote: cdrt

Quote: demiurg

Four off-road axles are definitely better than two

And the weight and dimensions are, as it were, 2 times more than Iveco

The question is not in dimensions, but in geometric cross. Pit / log on the way for example. Having lost one wheel, an armored personnel carrier is capable of continuing to move. In some cases, even losing three wheels.

[k174oun7]

Brazilian Serdyukov in action. Iveco ordered. Next in line is the order of the Mistral.

[Verdun]

Brazil will acquire armored vehicles Iveco LMV

Looks like not only our officials like to receive bonuses from foreign campaigns. And this is not a bribe, but a marketing move to promote products on the world market.))

[aba]

After all, in Brazil there is no snow, so you can take Iveco