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Brazil will acquire armored vehicles Iveco LMV

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The Brazilian Defense Ministry will purchase a shipment of Iveco LMV (4х4) armored cars from Italians, a blog reports bmpd with reference to the magazine "Jane's Defense Weekly".


Brazil will acquire armored vehicles Iveco LMV


In the near future, the military will begin negotiations with Iveco over the acquisition of “the first 32 LMV machines in a multi-purpose configuration,” the procurement management of the Brazilian Ministry of Defense reports.

"After the" direct "purchase of 32 light armored vehicles from the manufacturer, it is planned to purchase two more batches of 77 armored vehicles for the Brazilian army in each of seven variants (multipurpose, command and staff, a light anti-tank missile, a carrier for reconnaissance radar, a vehicle EW and machines of advanced artillery observers), ”the article says.

At the same time, the first 77 vehicles will be assembled in Brazil from Italian vehicle sets, and subsequent ones will be manufactured under the license “with an increased share of localization”.

It is also reported that "LMV machines in Brazil should be equipped with a remote-controlled machine gun REMAX (Reparo de Metralhadora Automatizado X) assembled by ARES Aeroespacial & Defesa (Brazilian branch of the Israeli group Elbit Systems)."

Lightweight armored vehicle Iveco LMV and armored personnel carrier VBTP-MR Guarani (right) developed and manufactured by the Iveco group for the Brazilian army
Photos used:
tecnodefesa.com.br, Iveco
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  1. oleg-gr
    oleg-gr April 18 2016 12: 24
    +2
    Brazil is warm. There the oil will not freeze. There are only a lot of wild monkeys. Suddenly they want to ride without demand?
    1. Error
      Error April 18 2016 12: 28
      -10%
      Iveco is g .... What I think they themselves can collect their counterpart He didn’t even pass the obstacles at the exhibition, but went around!
      1. lukke
        lukke April 18 2016 12: 46
        +3
        Iveco is g .... What I think they themselves can collect their counterpart He didn’t even pass the obstacles at the exhibition, but went around!
        and yet
        In May 2010, it was reported that the Rio de Janeiro police intend to test the "Tiger" - if the car is found satisfying the requirements, it will replace the vehicles currently used by the special forces. In the future, the Brazilian police plans to use the car to enforce law and order at the 2014 FIFA World Cup and the 2016 Olympics.

        it turns out .. who drives ?! There can be a lot of different things ...
    2. Andrey K
      Andrey K April 18 2016 12: 34
      +5
      Well, for Brazil, maybe they will do, there is a good diesel engine inside. And so, a bibika for "pokatushek", a rather weak protivominka. The declared protection class raises a lot of questions from specialists. A fiction about the presence of an armored capsule, or rather the presence of a "dummy" for an armored capsule. The inability to fire from the cabin is simply due to the lack of loopholes. And so on and so forth ...
      Beautiful toy wassat
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      2. RUSS
        RUSS April 18 2016 12: 43
        +3
        Quote: Andrey K
        Beautiful toy

        Maybe so, only our military "ride" them in Syria
        1. Andrey K
          Andrey K April 18 2016 12: 59
          +11
          Everything is correct. In the photo Iveco LMV M65 Lynx. Only this is not quite what the article is about. You have shown a license with adaptation to our requirements. Released under the memorable Serdyukov under the name "Lynx", they are no longer produced, since their own armored vehicles "Tiger" and analogues from KAMAZ are being produced ...
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          2. RUSS
            RUSS April 18 2016 13: 53
            +1
            Quote: Andrey K
            Only this is not quite what is written in the article.

            If not quite then what is the difference?
            Quote: Andrey K
            You showed a license with adaptation to our requirements.

            What is changed in the Russian version?
            1. Andrey K
              Andrey K April 18 2016 14: 20
              +5
              There were attempts by KAMAZ to increase mine protection. There is something with the presence of ceramics in the side projections and the absence of the bottom. I was not interested in the details.
      3. cdrt
        cdrt April 18 2016 15: 09
        -2
        Quote: Andrey K
        or rather the presence of a "dummy" for an armored capsule


        The model is Tiger-6A, which, like a Schrödinger cat, is at the same time (in applications, pictures) and not (tested, purchased, manufactured).
  2. tiredwithall
    tiredwithall April 18 2016 12: 25
    +7
    The president is impeachment, the armies are Italian armored vehicles, the people are the Olympics. Have fun in connection with the cancellation of carnivals.
  3. vladimirw
    vladimirw April 18 2016 12: 26
    0
    And our "Tigers" are no longer quoted?
    1. tiredwithall
      tiredwithall April 18 2016 12: 30
      +2
      Why are they going to fight there?
    2. mav1971
      mav1971 April 18 2016 12: 45
      +7
      Quote: vladimirw
      And our "Tigers" are no longer quoted?


      Who will buy the Tigers?
      If the manufacturing country of the Tiger itself signed a contract for 360 Italians and produced them on its territory ???

      Italians have Amer engines, the whole machine (from around the world) is assembled in pieces - parts are easy to purchase.
      And what about the Tiger?
      Wait a year until the pieces of iron sail by sea?
      1. tiredwithall
        tiredwithall April 18 2016 14: 21
        +2
        Where are they in a hurry? They can also wait by the sea on the beaches.
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    4. RUSS
      RUSS April 18 2016 13: 41
      0
      Quote: vladimirw
      And our "Tigers" are no longer quoted?

      We are quoted!
      Armored vehicles "Tiger" with the module "Crossbow-DM" began to enter the troops.

      The first batch of Tiger-M armored vehicles with the Arbalet-DM combat module was transferred to the Russian troops, RIA Novosti reported with reference to the general director of the Armory Workshops company Dmitry Galkin.

      "Within the framework of state tests," Arbalet-DM "has demonstrated its high characteristics, including the ability to operate in the temperature range from -40 to +50 degrees, which makes it possible to use it in any climatic zone of our country, as well as abroad", - said Galkin.


      The module includes a 12,7 mm Kord machine gun or a 7,62 mm PKTM machine gun, and in addition, it has four 3D grenade launchers, 6D3, 6D3M or 17D2,5. "Crossbow-DM" is fully stabilized and has the ability to capture and automatically track the target, which allows the operator to conduct effective fire both from a place and in motion. A television camera recognizes an APC target at a distance of 1,5 kilometers, thermal imaging - up to XNUMX kilometers.
      1. cdrt
        cdrt April 18 2016 15: 12
        +1
        Quote: RUSS
        We are quoted!


        And what about PMZ?
        Her absence is somehow bashfully silent.
        Judging by the many years of silence, the Tiger-6A successfully failed
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        2. RUSS
          RUSS April 18 2016 15: 44
          0
          Quote: cdrt
          Judging by the many years of silence, the Tiger-6A successfully failed

          Tiger-6A does not produce ....
    5. cdrt
      cdrt April 18 2016 15: 11
      0
      Quote: vladimirw
      And our "Tigers" are no longer quoted?


      And what, is Tiger-6A in reality, in procurement, in the troops?
      And not just in pictures and promises.
      It seems that many years ago they promised to do it, but we’ve been waiting for something all, straightforwardly not even 3 years, as the proverb says.
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      2. RUSS
        RUSS April 18 2016 15: 51
        0
        Quote: cdrt
        Quote: vladimirw
        And our "Tigers" are no longer quoted?


        And what, is Tiger-6A in reality, in procurement, in the troops?
        And not just in pictures and promises.
        It seems that many years ago they promised to do it, but we’ve been waiting for something all, straightforwardly not even 3 years, as the proverb says.

        Apparently, the "tiger" was quietly pushed back to the Ministry of Internal Affairs or the Russian Guard, in the Russian army, the "tiger" was abandoned in intelligence in favor of the BMP-3, the "scorpion" is on its way, and the "wolf" is being tested, not to mention that "typhoon" has already been put into service.
        1. cdrt
          cdrt April 19 2016 23: 01
          0
          Quote: RUSS
          Quote: cdrt
          Quote: vladimirw
          And our "Tigers" are no longer quoted?


          And what, is Tiger-6A in reality, in procurement, in the troops?
          And not just in pictures and promises.
          It seems that many years ago they promised to do it, but we’ve been waiting for something all, straightforwardly not even 3 years, as the proverb says.

          Apparently, the "tiger" was quietly pushed back to the Ministry of Internal Affairs or the Russian Guard, in the Russian army, the "tiger" was abandoned in intelligence in favor of the BMP-3, the "scorpion" is on its way, and the "wolf" is being tested, not to mention that "typhoon" has already been put into service.


          Scorpio - not a replacement for the Tiger - the command vehicle, no more. Yes, and PMZ against 0.4 or 0.6 kg only. Although this is quite comparable with the Tiger.
          And the Wolf - they’ve been finalizing everything, for 5 years the EMNIP has been modifying everything.
          So, the SV will live without cars with PMZ.
  4. demiurg
    demiurg April 18 2016 12: 55
    +1
    Are the favelas going to clean? So there you need an adult machine, such as BTR-80 (it will come out cheaper and by the way)
    And this UAZ with a capsule for riding generals and parades.
    1. mav1971
      mav1971 April 18 2016 13: 02
      +2
      Quote: demiurg
      Are the favelas going to clean? So there you need an adult machine, such as BTR-80 (it will come out cheaper and by the way)
      And this UAZ with a capsule for riding generals and parades.


      This UAZ has excellent mine protection ... By the way ...
    2. Pinkie F.
      Pinkie F. April 18 2016 13: 54
      +5
      Quote: demiurg
      Are the favelas going to clean? So there you need an adult machine, such as BTR-80

      An armored personnel carrier in favelas is strong.
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    4. RUSS
      RUSS April 18 2016 16: 01
      0
      Quote: demiurg
      Are the favelas going to clean?

      To "clean up" favelas laughing

      On the basis of "Almaty" will create the latest combat vehicle "Terminator-3"

      The newest Terminator-3 Tank Support Fighting Vehicle (BMPT) will be created on the basis of the Armata universal combat platform. About this in an interview with RIA Novosti, said CEO of Uralvagonzavod Oleg Sienko.
      According to him, a common platform will help bring about a uniform repair kit, spare tools and accessories. This, according to Sienko, will allow you to quickly change the various components and assemblies of military vehicles. He also said that on the new platform it is planned to put a ship’s cannon of 57 mm caliber with a range of 16 km.

      “Militants have nothing to do against such a machine. Yes, they are expensive, but how effective are they. Therefore, we believe that there are prospects, ”concluded the CEO of Uralvagonzavod.

      Now there are BMPTs, which are unofficially called "Terminator" and "Terminator-2." According to data from the Uralvagonzavod website, the Terminator is designed to suppress enemy tanks and infantry fighting vehicles, defeat lightly armored targets, and also to combat helicopters and low-flying low-speed aircraft. Both BMPTs were developed on the chassis of the T-72 tank.
  5. Glaz8000
    Glaz8000 April 18 2016 13: 05
    +2
    I think that the Brazilian Defense Ministry comprehensively examined the various options and chose the most suitable. Especially since:
    At the same time, the first 77 vehicles will be assembled in Brazil from Italian vehicle sets, and subsequent ones will be manufactured under the license “with an increased share of localization”.

    And this is jobs and some kind of experience for their own defense industry.
  6. demiurg
    demiurg April 18 2016 13: 08
    +1
    Quote: mav1971


    This UAZ has excellent mine protection ... By the way ...


    I agree. But in favelas, the KPVT is more useful, taking into account the fact that not so long ago, a year ago, with similar sweeps, a police helicopter was shot down there. But anti-tank mines are unlikely to be set there.
    1. mav1971
      mav1971 April 18 2016 13: 35
      +1
      Quote: demiurg
      Quote: mav1971


      This UAZ has excellent mine protection ... By the way ...


      I agree. But in favelas, the KPVT is more useful, taking into account the fact that not so long ago, a year ago, with similar sweeps, a police helicopter was shot down there. But anti-tank mines are unlikely to be set there.


      I think that not only about favelas ...
      By the way, our helicopters, including against the Brazilian drug mafia raising its head.
      And this is the jungle, impassable roads and, as an option, the mining of these same roads ... Anyway, sites open in the jungle.
      Colombian drug cartels have successfully practiced this.
      1. Pinkie F.
        Pinkie F. April 18 2016 14: 00
        +4
        Quote: mav1971
        I think that not only about favelas ...

        yes what, nafig, equipment in favelas? To bury yourself in the first extreme hut? Or accidentally fall into the ocean? What does the favela have to do with it? In addition to the favela, by the way, there are also working suburbs there, quite an urban landscape. At least in El Salvador. Police are patrolling Chevrolet pickups, three in a car.
        1. mav1971
          mav1971 April 18 2016 15: 13
          0
          Quote: Pinky F.

          yes what, nafig, equipment in favelas? To bury yourself in the first extreme hut? Or accidentally fall into the ocean?


          You know ... there are even roads in the favelas ... and some are 5-6 meters wide of the roadway ....
          Do not think that there are only chicken coops ...
          Many roads lead to these chicken coops.
          1. Pinkie F.
            Pinkie F. April 18 2016 15: 34
            0
            Quote: mav1971
            You know ... there are even roads in the favelas ... and some are 5-6 meters wide of the roadway ....

            maybe in gentrified favelas, I admit it. Only there is no one to clean up, there is already a middle class and higher, including tourists. Marginal people are in the "chicken coops".
    2. Pinkie F.
      Pinkie F. April 18 2016 14: 49
      +2
      Quote: demiurg
      But in favelas it is more useful

      In fact, the feds, relying on the Haitian experience, believe that a bulldozer is more useful in favelas)
    3. cdrt
      cdrt April 18 2016 15: 14
      0
      Quote: demiurg
      But anti-tank mines are unlikely to be set there.


      Mines are unlikely, and explosive devices from several kg of C4 are easy. That's why they buy a car with a proven PMZ in the war.
  7. From Samara
    From Samara April 18 2016 14: 01
    +4
    Great car, made for people, they know how to think about convenience! And at us the Designers think only of the phrase from the charter, the soldier must endure all the hardships and difficulties, therefore they do not bother once again ...
  8. demiurg
    demiurg April 18 2016 14: 09
    -3
    Quote: mav1971


    Four axles on the road are clearly better than two. And the landing is 8 people, and not 3 (driver, module operator and three paratroopers. And yet KPVT lol
    These are forever, they are certainly beautiful, only to fight them is not comme il faut. Ceramic armor after each battle to change, no money is enough (its module only to change, hefty). And the hole in the armor can simply be brewed (again, not quite easy, but cheaper than changing the armor plate). The maximum is police cars, against the riots of fans / bullies. But not against fighters with RPG / machine guns 12.7mm. Hummers Americans for some reason sell. Instead, they take heavier cars, such as the Typhoon, at least.
    1. cdrt
      cdrt April 18 2016 15: 15
      +1
      Quote: demiurg
      Four off-road axles are definitely better than two


      And the weight and dimensions are, as it were, 2 times more than Iveco
  9. demiurg
    demiurg April 18 2016 15: 22
    -1
    Quote: Pinky F.

    In fact, the feds, relying on the Haitian experience, believe that a bulldozer is more useful in favelas)

    The bulldozer will sort the barricade, and then what? Will it cover with fire or quickly withdraw the squad from under fire? And you need not just a bulldozer, but a protected one, it costs a lot for special equipment.
    And on the issue of amenities, modern models of armored personnel carriers are already available with an anti-splinter lining, and normal seats.
    1. zadorin1974
      zadorin1974 April 18 2016 15: 45
      +1
      Look at the experience of the IDF, they have been successfully using armored bulldozers for operations in the Gaza Strip for quite a long time. Chariots and leopards are used to cover and transport personnel, it is better not to meddle in the favelas on our armored personnel carriers, the chain mail is thin.
  10. demiurg
    demiurg April 18 2016 15: 31
    0
    Quote: cdrt
    Quote: demiurg
    Four off-road axles are definitely better than two


    And the weight and dimensions are, as it were, 2 times more than Iveco

    The question is not in dimensions, but in geometric cross. Pit / log on the way for example. Having lost one wheel, an armored personnel carrier is capable of continuing to move. In some cases, even losing three wheels.
  11. k174oun7
    k174oun7 April 18 2016 16: 49
    +1
    Brazilian Serdyukov in action. Iveco ordered. Next in line is the order of the Mistral.
  12. Verdun
    Verdun April 18 2016 22: 37
    0
    Brazil will acquire armored vehicles Iveco LMV

    Looks like not only our officials like to receive bonuses from foreign campaigns. And this is not a bribe, but a marketing move to promote products on the world market.))
  13. aba
    aba April 19 2016 18: 06
    0
    After all, in Brazil there is no snow, so you can take Iveco