Mishayugend. Who are they candidates from Open Russia?

The other day, a petition was published on change.org, in which the Russian Prosecutor General was called upon to recognize the undesirable activities of the Open Russia organization in the territory of the Russian Federation. At the time of this writing, the petition lacked a little more than 800 signatures (up to 15 thousand) for consideration by the official structures of the Russian Federation and in particular for those to whom the petition addressed.

Of petitions:

"Open Russia" is openly anti-Russian activities both in our country and abroad. This organization feels at ease in Russia, and its leaders directly cooperate with the US authorities. Thus, the son of Mikhail Khodorkovsky, Pavel, heads the Institute of Modern Russia (associated with the movement "Open Russia", sponsored by Khodorkovsky). One of the Institute’s largest projects is the online magazine The Interpreter, dedicated to “analyzing Russian policy, Russian-Ukrainian relations, countering Kremlin propaganda, and popularizing the Russian opposition.” The Interpreter materials are actively published on the website of Radio Free Europe, which belongs to the US government agency BBG (specializing in propaganda, including anti-Russian), and in January 2016 signed an agreement between the organizations, and now Radio Liberty ".

More than 14, thousands of people supported the idea of ​​recognizing Open Russia, which positions itself as a social political network movement, an undesirable organization in the territory of the Russian Federation. And it is likely that the necessary petition will gather 15 thousand votes.

Here is a small sample of the numerous comments on the petition published on www.change.org.

Olga Orlova (Moscow)

Fifth column. All will not calm down. So, we must ask to calm down the power decision.

Sergey Revutsky (Sevastopol)

I do not want people to come to power who openly hate my country Russia and who, like M. Kasyanov, are calling for the return of the Crimea and my city to Sevastopol to Ukraine!

Michael Gevorkyan (Moscow)

I subscribe, because not the opposition, but the real Russophobes. Their activities are aimed at worsening the state of our country.

Denis Ilyin (Ekaterinburg)

Another NGO, inspired by the State Department of the biased liberastov. We had enough example with the collapse of the Union, it is enough to attack the old rake.

It is worth recalling that Open Russia does not even hide the fact that it is being financed by the funds of ex-prisoner Mikhail Khodorkovsky, who today is hiding from the investigation into the case of the murder of the mayor of Nefteyugansk, outside the Russian Federation. Some time ago, Mr. Khodorkovsky, who clearly wants to be closer to the main political chair of Russia (under the new scenario), declared his readiness to finance “the right” (from his point of view) candidates, and, judging by the notes of “Open Russia”, funding simultaneously with the selection of candidates is very active.

Considering that a country should know “its heroes”, it’s worth, as it’s called, to list the candidates (“candidates”) that “Open Russia” and, therefore, personally Mikhail Khodorkovsky, support. The list also includes the “main thoughts” of the candidates.


Natalya Gryaznevich (26 years, lawyer). The co-chairman of the Petersburg branch of PARNAS (it is just interesting, in PARNAS, by chance, got not in the same way as ... another ally of the party boss? - author's note). Political views: "Liberal."

I am going to the elections to the State Duma in order to build the Russia in which we all want to live — open and prosperous! Russia, in which there will be opportunities for the implementation of each. Russia, which will be guaranteed those rights that are enshrined in our Constitution: the right to life, security and freedom of speech. Russia should not live by the law of the strong, but by the law of the Constitution.

And what, Natasha in her 26 years in Russia does not give the right to life? Or for some reason she is unsafe in our country ... Millions of Russians live quietly, work, take rest, give birth to children, enjoy life, and Natasha, the candidate, you understand, is restless ... Or does Mr. Khodorkovsky have everything "Virus".

By the way ... Total 26 years, and already so pulls in the State Duma! And why would Natasha not start building a flourishing Russia in the role, for example, of a school teacher (education seems to be appropriate) - at least give 10-15 years of pedagogy, and only then think about what can be useful in lawmaking. But after all, his statement about the acute attack of the desire to be in the Duma already in 26 years, forgive, "burns" its main sponsor. Most adequate people understand perfectly well that such a young “candidate” in itself is an ordinary political dummy, and therefore (if such a thing happens - and she passes to the State Duma), she will speak with the MBH talking head - no more.

Nikolay Artemenko (26 years, St. Petersburg, deputy assistant). Political views: “Liberal; supporter of parliamentary republic ".

I go to the polls, because Petersburg needs changes, new ideas and new solutions to old problems. I do not want to trust our city to people for whom the place of the deputy is more important than solving the tasks that they could solve. I go with Open Russia, because our views coincide.

26 years ... In principle, everything is also clear ... One remark: a young man is a truly professional candidate almost from the cradle. In 20 years already advanced in the candidate status - however, in the Legislative Assembly of St. Petersburg and from the Yabloko party. How is it in the Internet meme: "In 20 years, Karl!" What a study, what work, what service in the army ... - CANDIDATE and the point!

Olga Zhakova (32, lawyer). Political views: "A supporter of a strong legal democratic state."

Well, here at least not 26 ... And the rest ...

I believe that Mikhail Khodorkovsky and Open Russia are the only real, sensible opposition, and I am confident that together we will win.

No, well, it is clear that Mikhail Borisovich gives a money to promote a graduate of the faculty of service and advertising of Irkutsk State University, but in the very first sentence of “status” it is too much to mention the benefactor’s name - even by advertising standards. Or you can’t spoil Michal Borisych - the personality cult is in “all its glory” ...

Photos of the three listed "candidates" (from left to right: Zhakova, Gryaznevich, Artyomenko):

And there are 23-year-old candidates. Apparently, the relatively successful passing of the unified state examination today by individuals causes a very serious self-confidence ...

And suddenly: there are candidates — the current regional deputies from United Russia (for example, Ruzil Mingalimov, 31-year-old from Tatarstan). This, by the way, is about who the “United Russia” is filled with today, and about how much the system of party values ​​is there ...

Mikhail Borisovich, and you excel yourself. Apparently, in the understanding of your Open Russia, the candidacy is already a type of activity, and therefore it is possible to use even those who do not know the real work from the word “in general” as candidates for parliamentary seats. In principle, the technology is clear: a person who does not know what labor and honest earnings are from a “box” is unlikely to bite on Kasyanov-Khodorkov promises of “party successes”, and therefore the contingent is chosen appropriately in the sense that will not ask. A sort of dummies of liberalism - most often with clean employment records and an indispensable burden to show oneself from a shop window ...

Comments

[parusnik]

The Pepsi generation ...

[Finches]

As much as I personally could not tolerate such ur ... citizens, nevertheless, if there is no violation of Russian legislation - let them shake their personal belongings, that is, "values" - all the more so, at the age of 25-30 there is no particularly mature and balanced political position and it cannot be - the usual childish spontaneity and the desire to show their peers how high they piss on the wall ...! Two fools, someone, God forbid, will be overweight and they will immediately become not up to liberal values, but a jerk, in the end either he grows up, or he goes to his gays in the West! Eco unprecedented ... There should always be a place for shit in life to learn to appreciate the good ... By the way, the common people of Ukraine can tell a lot about this now!

[mirag2]

As much as I personally could not stand such ur ... citizens

-similar. What other "State Duma"? They have nothing to do there. Very correctly finished the discussion of the film "Browder Effect" Markov - "... who are those people in the highest echelons of power, who helped people like Navalny, because the State Department did not bring them money in suitcases? ... "
Naturally, after all, Ponomarev paid money for the lectures (I think it was such a hidden transfer from the Skolkovo funds) that Vekselberg paid?
Didn’t look? Here is:

[mirag2]

Those. I VERY hope that with the intensification of the information war against the Russian Federation, not only Navalny will be subjected to "soft scolding", but also enemies from the liberal bloc of the government.

[Secondly,]

Hi,

I have just signed a petition "To the Prosecutor General of the Russian Federation: We demand that Open Russia be recognized as an undesirable organization."

It is important. Sign up?

Here is the link:

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[vovanpain]

Quote: andre

It is important. Sign up?

Colleague, the whole family signed up the day before yesterday, I hope our 6 votes will help.

[Al1977]

Quote: vovanpain

I hope our 6 votes help.

Do you write petitions against government initiatives? Against the reduction of doctors, additional excise taxes and requisitions, economic inaction, theft and corruption? Or do you specialize in the fifth column? How many times has the government listened to your petitions, if not secret?))

[Voima-liitto]

Quote: Al1977

How many times has the government listened to your petitions, if not secret?

Listens to.
For example, I wrote to the Criminal Code at home, including in the "president's reception", people came and checked the accounts.
In general, I often write - according to my letters, they removed one traffic light, put one traffic light, draw one pedestrian crossing (at the same time I don’t walk on it at all, but a hedgehog, but there is a college nearby, but there was a crossing and ran across the road !!!), a couple of signs were outweighed (hung crookedly, it was hard to see), well, and even the little things.
And in general, our government is really working to increase the responsiveness of feedback from the population, the main thing is not to sit on F ... and blame the "State Department" and "liberals" for everything, but to do something for their own good, because that water does not flow under a lying stone

[vlad_vlad]

Quote: Voima-liitto

Quote: Al1977

How many times has the government listened to your petitions, if not secret?

Listens to.
... according to my letters, one traffic light was removed, one traffic light was set, one pedestrian crossing was drawn

Well, to hell with yourself! I did not understand - is everything serious?
to set the traffic light - should I write to the president ?? Otherwise, no way?

for all traffic lights in Russia, then how many presidents are needed

[Voima-liitto]

Quote: vlad_vlad

to set the traffic light - should I write to the president ??

Very funny.

[Bayonet]

Quote: Voima-liitto

Very funny.

Perhaps sad ...

[alexej123]

The thought gnaws at me myself - why should someone be punished or forced to work - should I wait for a direct line with the President of the Russian Federation? The last time I was struck for Kaliningrad - an accident committed by a cadet of a military institute. Only after the intervention of the VVP the case was started. And who slowed down they suffered? The head of the institute, the head of the region's IC, the head of the Internal Affairs Directorate, the governor at last? It turns out that the vertical of power DOES NOT WORK. I understand that after the intervention of the Presidential Administration, all subordinates on such facts should at least be punished with a reprimand, and in an amicable way dismissed with a "wolf ticket". After all, with such facts all these "clerks" inflict enormous HARM on the interests of the Russian Federation - they undermine the people's faith in the justice of the authorities, in fact play into the hands of the Western "Partners". I am not against GDP. But, will we still depend on the "Good Tsar-Father"?

[Bramb]

Can you read carefully?
Or is it for you personally that only the president has power?
That something is real and as quickly as possible to make - it is necessary to write. For the words do not come to the point. And the government (I’m explaining it specifically for you: in Russia, all officials, not just the President, enter the concept of power), according to the law, must give an answer no later than 30 days.
From my own experience: yes, it really helps. They made a road (I didn’t write to blogs and the Internet and didn’t take pictures like Omsk, but there is a good road), a traffic light, a playground and now a place for a pool is being selected (money has been budgeted).
So, looking at your smiley, the proverb about the laughing far from the most intelligent man is recalled.

[Senior manager]

Quote: Al1977

Do you write petitions against government initiatives?

And no one forbids you to organize such a petition, at the same time and see what kind of support will be.

[vovanpain]

Quote: Al1977

Do you write petitions against government initiatives?

So write, who forbids you or what? Or are you afraid?

Quote: Al1977

Against the reduction of doctors, additional excise taxes and requisitions, economic inaction, theft and corruption?

Forgot to add about "Plato" Rotenberg and no economics

Quote: Al1977

Or do you specialize in the fifth column?

Well, how did you think that I would wash Navalny’s dirty socks while Navalny washes dirty Browder’s dirty pants? And he also slammed Kasyanov in the face with a cake.

Quote: Al1977

How many times has the government listened to your petitions, if not secret?))

It’s no secret dear, it’s not a secret, not a single one, since I am not writing petitions, but I do what I need with my own hands. Empty idle talk with you, salivation from you and not one fact.

[serg6978]

Good morning, I signed up too. I hope our voices will be considered and will see.

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: andre

I have just signed a petition "To the Prosecutor General of the Russian Federation: We demand that Open Russia be recognized as an undesirable organization."

Just signed with a comment

I hope the Prosecutor General of Russia will draw the right conclusions and give the right order. And then injustice is obtained - such organizations allow Russia to kill Russia, the prosecutor’s office allows, but I do not hang them on birches ... Where is the equality? Let them either ban them, or let me ...

[EvgNik]

Thanks for the link. Signed.

[runway]

Petition to the Attorney General .....
Isn’t that the one who participates in the corruption schemes of their children?
This one will sign anything. Write, write .... Now is not 37 year, but how it looks!

[Uncle Murzik]

did you live in 1937? long-liver!

[hrapon]

Quote: piston

Petition to the Attorney General .....
Isn’t that the one who participates in the corruption schemes of their children?
This one will sign anything. Write, write .... Now is not 37 year, but how it looks!

We are writing petitions to our government (so to speak, a "direct connection" between the government and the people), and not sending the draft sanctions lists to the US State Department ...

[Al1977]

Quote: piston

Isn’t that the one who participates in the corruption schemes of their children?

This is a foreign agent, a traitor to the motherland and an enemy of the people of Navalny wants to denigrate our honest legal system, rock Russia and plunge into the chaos of the orange revolutions !!!! You, comrade, are a liberalist, who must be shot without trial !!!!

[Cat man null]

Quote: Al1977

Quote: piston

Isn’t that the one who participates in the corruption schemes of their children?

This is a foreign agent, a traitor to the motherland and an enemy of the people of Navalny wants to denigrate our honest legal system, rock Russia and plunge into the chaos of the orange revolutions !!!! You, comrade, are a liberalist, who must be shot without trial !!!!

Thick ...

[Voima-liitto]

Quote: Al1977

This is a foreign agent, a traitor to the motherland and an enemy of the people of Navalny who wants to denigrate our honest legal system,

No, well, our legal system is really not always honest, and there are corruption schemes in our system (although they are all over the world).
But how does this negate the fact that Anal & Co. is indeed a foreign agent and the bulk of his investigations are nothing more than "falsification"?

[Al1977]

But how does this negate the fact that Anal & Co. is indeed a foreign agent and the bulk of his investigations are nothing more than "falsification"?

To be clear, I am not an FSB agent, and I don’t know where the falsification is, where not. Could you explain which investigations are "falsifications": Chaiki, Yakunin, castles and apartments of deputies and members of the government, is this all not true?
Honestly, I suspected this, well, people who love Russia, who devoted their whole life to their homeland, cannot be corrupt. All these kids Sechin, Patrushev and others are really talents. I will not read this nonsense of Navalny anymore!

[Voima-liitto]

Quote: Al1977

which investigations are "falsifications": Seagulls, Yakunin, castles and apartments of deputies and members of the government

Just accept as a fact that such people always live like that!
Do you know how my cousin, Minister of the Union Republic lived?
An apartment in the city center of at least 5 rooms (I don't remember exactly), a three-storey "summer cottage" outside the city, MERCEDES with a driver - and this is in the USSR!
You go out into the street and look at three-five-story houses in the private sector, or at foreign cars for 5 million or more on our roads. These are all sorts of owners of all kinds of "grocery stalls and auto services" so often live.
And how much do you think the minister should earn if the owner of a "series of car services" has a private house of 5 floors ????
In general, there was always social stratification, they simply did not write about social stratification in the USSR, you simply did not know about the dachas and secretaries of the secretaries (and the nomenclature had privileges hoo hoo), and now we have publicity and everything is known, but it’s just unusual for you.
But abroad, and in the same USA, everything is exactly the same.
But only "Anal and Co" will never tell you about it for some reason, they will write to you about "corruption in the Russian Federation" but they will never write about "lobbyists in the USA."
I hope it is clear why?

[Cat man null]

Quote: Voima-liitto

Do you know how my cousin, Minister of the Union Republic lived?

Another "Crimean woman, the daughter of an officer" .. Something the trolls jumped up today .. to the rain, or what?

[Uncle Murzik]

to whom you tell, the prosecutor and the second secretary of the district party committee of the district lived with us in the same house, and didn’t stand out with anything! all the children went to each other!

[Voima-liitto]

Quote: Uncle Murzik

the prosecutor and the second secretary of the district party committee of the district lived with us in the same house

Was the thug house? Probably on the embankment too?

Quote: Uncle Murzik

all the kids went to each other!

When? At 5 years old?
Do they now visit each other when Vaska is a locksmith, and Vanka is the head of the district?
No, but no, no trial!

[Uncle Murzik]

stupid you are 100% troll, what foreign cars for 5 million. dollars, the dollar at that time was 63 kopecks! where did you see cars in the USSR for 8 million dollars and even from the minister! well, you are a funny Mercedes for 8 million dollars, and in Germany you cannot find at that time

[Voima-liitto]

Quote: Uncle Murzik

stupid you are 100% troll, what foreign cars for 5 million. dollars

For those in the tank.
Anyone who understands cars knows that a "good Mercedes" costs from 5 million rubles
And as I understand it, in essence there is nothing to object, now probably continue to be rude?

[Uncle Murzik]

gee gee gee during Soviet times! In 1976, Vysotsky appeared the first Mercedes in 1974, the color "metallic blue" (model 450 W 116) - a four-door sedan. Marina Vlady brought from France about 10 cars in a row for her husband, but they must have been taken away from the USSR a year after importation - these were the rules. Mercedes was the first for Vysotsky foreign car officially registered in Moscow. By the way, this particular "Mercedes" was the first that appeared in the file of the traffic police. Another was with Brezhnev, and a month later he appeared with Sergei Mikhalkov. I wash my hands like the daughter of an officer!

[Anglorussian]

The top MB 560sl cost 48000 killed raccoons in the states in 1986.

[Al1977]

Quote: Voima-liitto

Just accept as a fact that such people always live like that!

You confused me, they always lived like that or is it all falsification, you see, these are completely different things. I correctly understood you that the people I listed have nothing to do with the fact that Navalny writes about them and all this is Photoshop? Just write YES- photoshop, or NO- it's all true, but Navalny is still the enemy, and investigations are not considered from the enemy.

[Al1977]

Quote: Voima-liitto

But only "Anal and Co" will never tell you about it for some reason, they will write to you about "corruption in the Russian Federation" but they will never write about "lobbyists in the USA."

I don’t need to tell anything about the USA - this is an evil empire, and everything that is done there is disgusting. But we, a completely different country in spirituality. And everything is different with us, and I have never been and never live in the USA, I wonder what is happening in my homeland, in Russia.

[Voima-liitto]

Quote: Al1977

it is an evil empire, and everything that is done there is disgusting. But we, a completely different country in spirituality.

Nonsense!
We long ago, even under Stalin, lost that very "spirituality".
Today the average American or European is much more cultured and "more spiritual" than the average Russian.

[Anglorussian]

Do you know many Europeans personally? Have you lived among them, reading their newspapers, watching their TV (color, isessno)? Talking with their taxi drivers, getting drunk after working with them? Vasya’s assertion is based on the knowledge that angels live there like a rainbow and in Russia stupid vatans. Which is fundamentally wrong. They are not so cultural and, as a rule, are not very educated. This is a personal experience from an adult life lived behind a hill.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Anglorussian

beyond the hillock of adult life.

You're a stupid person, yes.?

[Anglorussian]

Quote: Mordvin 3

You're a stupid person, yes.?

I'm kind of smart. And you?

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Anglorussian

Quote: Mordvin 3

You're a stupid person, yes.?

I'm kind of smart. And you?

Quote: Anglorussian

Quote: Mordvin 3

You're a stupid person, yes.?

I'm kind of smart. And you?

Quote: Anglorussian

Quote: Mordvin 3

You're a stupid person, yes.?

I'm kind of smart. And you?

Down house? Mr. PIP? I recognized you.

[Anglorussian]

He turned out to be a hero of jokes.

[hrapon]

[quote = Voima-liitto] [quote = Al1977] is an evil empire, and everything that is done there is disgusting. But we, a completely different country in spirituality. [/ quote]
Nonsense!
We long ago, even under Stalin, lost that very "spirituality".
Today the average American or European is much more cultured and "more spiritual" than the average Russian. [/ Quote]

This is exactly NONSENSE.

[Starik72]

Voima-liitto. I will ask you only one question: did you live during the leadership of the country by Stalin, did you communicate with people who lived at that time? If YES lived, then I will write softly that YOU fell under the influence of Western propaganda, and apart from this, you see nothing else. If NO, did not live and did not communicate, then again I will write softly, not tryndi.

[Anglorussian]

He's like the 87th year ...

[Al1977]

Quote: Voima-liitto

And how much then do you think the minister should earn

2-3 salaries of a doctor in a hospital, or a teacher, or a professor.
Is a minister’s job more difficult than a surgeon?

[Cat man null]

Quote: Al1977

Is a minister’s job more difficult than a surgeon?

- Worked both on the campaign to compare?

Reminded: "If an elephant fits on a whale, who will collect whom?"

You fucking troll Al1977.. this is not a collision, this is a statement of fact .. and almost regret

Where Uncle Joe? Bored without him ...

[Mordvin 3]

Oh, Uncle Joe remembered. And the truth is boring without its graphs and tables.

[Cat man null]

Quote: Mordvin 3

Oh, Uncle Joe remembered. And the truth is boring without its graphs and tables

- chart tables - it was a second time
- the fact is that Gusiki, Phantom-Asi and others .. the license plates that are trying to troll here now - Uncle Joe is not suitable for soles ..

I - about it .. and you - about what?

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Cat Man Null

I - about it .. and you - about what?

And I'm talking about it.

[Cat man null]

Quote: Mordvin 3

And I'm talking about it.

Quote: Cat Man Null

Gusiki, Phantom-Asi and others .. license plates that are trying to troll here now - Uncle Joe is not suitable for soles

- well, if about it - then .. I don’t even know

[Al1977]

Quote: Cat Man Null

- Worked both on the campaign to compare?

Reminded: "If an elephant fits on a whale, who will collect whom?"

Fucking you troll, Al1977 .. this is not a run over, this is a statement of fact .. and almost regret yes

In each barrel, the plug inserted its own 5 kopecks.))) You work great in this style, it's yours, you found yourself in that))))

[Cat man null]

Quote: Al1977

You work great in this style, it's yours, you found yourself in that

- I recently promised you .. look
- I keep my promises. Is always

Voooot ...

[colonel manuch]

I don’t know how the Minister lived there in the “union republic”, but there was no such thing in the RSFSR, my grandfather was four times a deputy of the Supreme Soviet of the RSFSR and the USSR, Hero of Social Labor, chairman of one of the largest collective farms in the USSR and I did not see any luxury , together with my peers I worked in the garden in the summer, and when I grew up as a steering wheel on a combine, until I entered the school, in short, my grandfather was RIGHT! "and teaching her children from birth to consider everyone who is" shorter "- cattle. I thought and still believe that all the "liberals", "shift workers", belolentochniks "and other" effective managers "should be brought under control, to make it clear that it is impossible to live like this, that Siberia is big ...

[bk316]

Quote: Al1977

I, frankly speaking, not an agent of the FSB

Of course, judging by your posts, you are an agent of the State Department.

[Al1977]

Quote: bk316

Of course, judging by your posts, you are an agent of the State Department

Yeah, Agent "Friedman"
And you Popov from the second channel?))))) And then they exposed me ...)))))))))))

[CONTROL]

Quote: piston

Petition to the Attorney General .....
Isn’t that the one who participates in the corruption schemes of their children?
This one will sign anything. Write, write .... Now is not 37 year, but how it looks!

... There would be no 1937, there would be no 2016! ...
Oral account, actually!

[oborzevatel]

Quote: andre

It is important. Sign up?

I would love to sign, but ...!

Tell me, how many such petitions with political demands posted on https://www.change.org/ and gained the right number of votes reached the addressee, with the addressee taking any action on the petition addressed to him?
For a start:
Have you tried to deprive Makar of state awards?
A bunch of people signed the petition.
And where is the result of the appeal?
But measures were taken on such petitions as:

15 thousand people supported MGIMO students who spoke in defense of Professor Andrei Zubov, who was fired for his statements about the situation in Ukraine. And they won!
https://www.change.org/p/торкунов-анатолий-васильевич-


restore immediately
professorships of Andrei Zubov
The essence of the problem is here:
http://www.gazeta.ru/social/2014/03/24/5962589.shtml

Here's more:

Victory! Svetlana is at home with her family! The investigation changed the measure of restraint to recognizance not to leave. 29287 signatures on the Novaya Gazeta website and 62 on change.org.

The essence of the problem:

Renat Davletgildeev from Open Russia traveled to Vyazma and shot a story about how the family of the mother of seven children, Svetlana Davydova, who is now in Lefortovo, lives on, is accused of treason and wants to be sent to the Ukrainian Embassy for 20 years.
http://alburov.ru/2015/02/davydova/
Georgy Alburov - Investigation Division of the Anti-Corruption Fund. Whose brainchild is in the know?

For some reason, such petitions win, and measures are being taken.

Therefore, I will not vote.
The reaction is one-sided on the site, and just in favor of only those against whom the current petition for recognizing Open Russia as an undesirable organization has been filed.

[oborzevatel]

Quote: Turkir

About Svetlana Davydova ...

I tell.
Personally for you.
You carefully read my post?
And where is it said that I fully support this Davydova?
The essence of the post was that for some reason, such petitions, as in defense of this, so to speak, mother, and as in support of the professor, who unflatteringly expressed his attitude to Russian foreign policy, have consequences.
But petitions like this (on the recognition of Open Russia as an undesirable organization) remain without consequences.
Therefore, I will not vote on this site.

Quote: Turkir

How many times have you called the embassies and which ones?

No need to generalize.
Follow yourself first.
And learn to read carefully before giving such assessments!

[Turkir]

Guilty, I’ll correct it.
Honestly, your writing style has led me astray ..

[Goravrin]

also signed, it remains to collect 131 signatures.

[igor.borov775]

That's lovely !! What are you talking about "THEY ARE CHILDREN" has already sounded like this somewhere. Perhaps this is just the beginning.

[Nick]

Quote: Finches

As much as I personally could not tolerate such ur ... citizens, nevertheless, if there is no violation of Russian legislation - let them shake their personal belongings, that is, "values" - all the more so, at the age of 25-30 there is no particularly mature and balanced political position and it can't be

That's it! Therefore, I believe, for a candidate for the level of Regional Zack. meetings and above must enter the age limit. In my opinion, this is at least 35, and preferably 40 years. Let the candidate first recommend himself in any other field. And what is a candidate for 23-25 years? no biography, no life experience. Just a cat in a bag.

[user]

at the age of 25-30 there cannot be any particularly mature and balanced political position - the ordinary childlike spontaneity and desire to show their peers how high they write on the wall ...!

And you looked at the members of United Russia, the Liberal Democratic Party or the People's Front, there are enough of these pissing too

[Nick]

Quote: user

And you looked at the members of United Russia, the Liberal Democratic Party or the People's Front, there are enough of these pissing too

Sorry, you can be members in 18 years. Let them gain political experience, without interruption from their main job, this is good. But it becomes impossible at that age to become a federal deputy.

[alexdol]

Zyablitsev (3) RU "let them shake their personal belongings, that is," values ​​"- all the more, at the age of 25-30 there can be no particularly mature and balanced political position - an ordinary childlike spontaneity"
-------------------------------------------------- ----
I strongly disagree with such your reasoning!
Here it is appropriate to recall what Rikki-tiki-tavi said: COBRA will grow from these eggs !!! Don't be so naive! Evil must be strangled at any age ...

[python2a]

Too expensive tuition!

[Alex_Rarog]

Brothers, I signed up!

[subbtin.725]

These snotty wiseacres urgently need enhanced occupational therapy, naturally under the supervision of overseers.

[Amurets]

Quote: subbtin.725

These snotty wiseacres urgently need enhanced occupational therapy, naturally under the supervision of overseers.

Flog them on the square with rods, as in the old days they punished for sins not related to crimes. Yes, so that they could not sit down for a week. They can start to think and increase.

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: Amurets

Maybe the mind and increase or begin to think.

This is not about them.
All they can do is sell for profit.

[Senior manager]

To begin with, "these snotty clever men" should try to EARN, not to be confused with "making money" for their own living, and not to feed themselves from the master's hand, it humiliates a normal person. After licking the giver's hand, the next step is to lick other places.

[Sid.74]

Quote: Alex_Rarog

Brothers, I signed up!

240 man still needed.

[subbtin.725]

Quote: Sid.74

Quote: Alex_Rarog

Brothers, I signed up!

240 man still needed.

Already less!

[kugelblitz]

Come on, now there are quite a few Stalinists and Imperials among the youth, for example. To push any "champions of freedom and conscience" can be worse than many adults.

[Voima-liitto]

Quote: kugelblitz

Now among young people there are quite a few Stalinists and Imperials, for example.

Among the undecided schoolchildren and students only if, then a loan for a car, for an apartment, the understanding that all this was not available in the USSR and, as a result, a complete collapse of youthful errors!

[vkl.47]

they painted lips all with one lipstick？

[SRC P-15]

And there are 23-year-old candidates at all.

All these candidates from "Open Russia" can be called in one word: the Khodorkovsky pedagogue!

[kugelblitz]

I am not only in cozy patriotic resources, but also in IT. So there is a% higher percentage of all "odmins gents", overclockers, pkhpcoders and many other disgruntled types of personalities who consider Jobs and Musk for the second coming. And nevertheless, despite everything, and often a frankly pro-American view of such resources, I can say not all is lost.

[GYGOLA]

they painted lips all with one lipstick？

lollipops tolerated

The Danish amusement park Bakken has banned the sale of popular colored candies in the form of male genitalia. The owners of the park decided that they were tasteless.
Until now, sweets called Dillermaend (in Danish slang, the word refers to the male genital organ) were sold very successfully, despite the high price of 20 kroons ($ 4,50). However, the other day they decided to ban the sale of popular sweets in Bakken Park, reports Australian AP. Candy maker Fleming Barfod thus lost his main customer.
“We decided not to buy them anymore because they are tasteless,” said Tina Baungarl-Hensen, a spokeswoman for the park.

[gergi]

And what faces! They say about such people, even though they have ssy eyes, all of God's dew. Children grew up, scared of the prospect of working until retirement, and found an alternative. If only fed plentifully.

[Vend]

Quote: parusnik

The Pepsi generation ...

An ambitious young man, eager for dough, but realizing that he will not be able to earn it. Well, they did not come out with data for this. But through hatred of one’s own country, this is possible; money for this is not small. Yes, and you do not need to do anything. Shout yourself and blaspheme the Russian system, leaders, etc.

[siberalt]

Found an ax under the bench. There is a Law on Public Organizations and Parties. There is a procedure for registering parties and social movements in the Ministry of Justice. There is the FSB, the Prosecutor's Office and the Court. In the end, there are elections as a manifestation of democracy. But the whole point is that the organization of such, as it were, popular "petitions", and their broad discussion, can give exactly the opposite effect, namely: arouse interest in the organization in the youth masses, create an excuse for organizing anti-state capmania, representing the state as a strangler freedom and democracy. Doesn't it seem that this "anti-PR" technology itself smacks of something colored?

[oborzevatel]

Quote: siberalt

Found an ax under the bench. There is a Law on Public Organizations and Parties. There is a procedure for registering parties and social movements in the Ministry of Justice. There is the FSB, the Prosecutor's Office and the Court. In the end, there are elections as a manifestation of democracy. But the whole point is that the organization of such, as it were, popular "petitions", and their broad discussion, can give exactly the opposite effect, namely: arouse interest in the organization in the youth masses, create an excuse for organizing anti-state capmania, representing the state as a strangler freedom and democracy. Doesn't it seem that this "anti-PR" technology itself smacks of something colored?

Finally, I see another sane person.
More recently, I wrote about the same thing (see my post above)
So they tried to make me almost a traitor like Davydova.

[Error]

Generation Shawarma e..p)

[Vodrak]

they even have some Western faces in the photo

[Damask]

But now the 4,12 generation of chronicles rules

[Anglorussian]

The Pepsi generation is being replaced by the yaga generation.

[goncharov.62]

And you notice, gentlemen, the physioplasty of people who are ready to be the 1st secretary of the Komsomol, an instructor of the same crap, and just an oak tree for them! How similar are the faces! (For those who know. They are so easy to calculate, you just need to finish school in the USSR (WITHOUT ege /) (!!!

[alexej123]

No, you're wrong. This is not the Pepsi generation, they have already grown up. This is the Chupa-Chups generation.

[vik669]

Homeland needs heroes and p ... and gives birth to d ...... in!

[puffnutiy]

the Pepsi generation is the 90s, I don't even know these. You can't call them the Jaguar generation, they don't seem to drink that. Probably "Generation Dom-2" is closest. The task is to get rich and become famous without doing anything.

PS As Cadet Gag would say: "grease for the bayonet."

[ovod84]

But really, why let them be kicked out in the Duma as an opposition, express their opinion and we all already know who finances them. it’s better to keep a visible enemy than an invisible beside yourself. although they infuriate me and constantly come to mind the 90s, when it was hard.

[Ivan Slavyanin]

And they will listen to secret reports, go into all sorts of committees and merge Old overseas. Enough of those who are now sabotaging the Duma.

[olimpiada15]

Quote: Ivan Slav

And they will listen to secret reports, go into all sorts of committees and merge Old overseas. Enough of those who are now sabotaging the Duma.

I support, a very correct thought.
What struck me, in connection with the Crimean events, the whole decision-making mechanism was merged on-line to the west: who, where, what he collected, suggested, spoke out.
Totalitarian Western control is already in the country.
It's a shame when the highest state body of the country is represented by the conductors of external interests.

[gergi]

In our Duma, only these youngsters are fucked up and lacking. There and without them any creature in pairs.

[hartlend]

And suddenly:

from the word "general"

The author also often uses "for a minute", "for a second" - these are all clumsy show-offs that have already become parasitic words.

[Volodin]

The man with the portrait of Stalin in the profile (instead of his own photo) says something about "clumsy show-off"?

[hartlend]

Yes. Is something bothering you?

[hartlend]

You have to call it that when not only in the comments, but also in the articles, the Russian language is clogged. The portrait of Stalin is not used instead of a photo, but to reflect the inner content.

[Volodin]

Quote: hartlend

litter the Russian language.

And your expression "show-off clumsy", then, is not a contamination of the Russian language?

Okay, "let's go" (here, again, I'm clogging up my tongue ). I understand, in fact, the material itself you have no comments.

[hartlend]

In fact, everything is true. There are no comments. I agree.

[gergi]

What is your life? The dog is stinking. Quote from the movie. Ivan the Terrible performed by Yakovlev. Something inspired.

[gergi]

Stalin would not be dishonored. Great person. Or will hunting also be magnified under his photo?

[kartalovkolya]

It is not surprising that a "herd" of potential traitors and outspoken enemies of Russia has grown up in our country, but that reaction, and one might even say its absence, to the activity of this rabble to undermine our state! Or the Great Patriotic War did not teach us anything, but if there were such a horde of traitors in the USSR in 1941-45, then everyone would have forgotten about Russia long ago! But now the situation is no less dangerous and unpredictable, as it was in 41, the only difference is that the new gang of enemies is headed not by some Hitler, but by his former masters themselves, in the person of the true rulers of the United States! Stop looking back at the West that is not entirely friendly to us and put things in order in our state without looking back at anyone, but apparently so far all this is beneficial to someone in the ruling circles, and hence such a reaction or even its absence ...

[Ivan Slavyanin]

Liberalism is a virus for the brain, for the history of the country.

[Bobxnumx]

Before his release, Khodorkovsky promised not to spoil Russia, apparently he cannot keep his word. So it puts young growth forward. If they are not restrained, in two or three years they will grow into a large "hemorrhoid".

[EvgNik]

Quote: Bob0859

Khodorkovsky before the liberation promised not to balomut Russia, apparently it’s impossible to keep his word.

And its owners also never hold a word. A worthy student.

[slimp]

Maybe I live in an alternate reality.
I think they have no chance, from the word at all.
Here, apparently, the goal is not to get elected ... although I also somehow do not really believe in the riots that some promise for the fall elections. But you need to prepare - careful, God saves!

[inkass_98]

Their goal is to lighten up, show potential sponsors that there are objects of application of forces and money. By the way, in whom do not spit - a lawyer, their mother. I have nothing against it, but are there too many of them on our heads? It seems that these people received a worthless education, they do not have the opportunity to get a job, that’s where their shit is boiling up with the support of a sitter, a victim of a kogovy regime.

[Voima-liitto]

Quote: inkass_98

It seems that these people received a worthless education, are not able to get a job,

Well, how can I tell you that a legal education actually gives you pretty good knowledge about the world and professional qualities, but it’s almost impossible to get a lawyer with a good salary.
That’s where they come

[alexej123]

But what does it give the present legal? There is a legal faculty in every institute, even in "Culinary". Previously, the education of a lawyer could only be obtained at the university, which were one per region, republic, etc., and in special institutions (Ministry of Internal Affairs, KGB). These were the lawyers.

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: inkass_98

Their goal is to lighten up, show potential sponsors that there are objects of application of forces and money. By the way, in whom do not spit - a lawyer, their mother. I have nothing against it, but are there too many of them on our heads? It seems that these people received a worthless education, they do not have the opportunity to get a job, that’s where their shit is boiling up with the support of a sitter, a victim of a kogovy regime.

In fact, all these "guys" from PARNAS, Yabloko and Open Russia are working out the "hegemon's" order to shatter Russia.

[oborzevatel]

Forgive me, I could not resist, I slightly "smacked":

[dauria]

that these people got a worthless education

Well, V.V. Putin is the Faculty of Law of Leningrad State University ...
Or is it "wow"? I also met Sobchak there.

[Gray brother]

Quote: slimp

Maybe I live in an alternate reality.
I think they have no chance, from the word at all.

And they act for the future - institutions create, foundations, centers, attract young people with higher education who have prospects to climb the career ladder and future media workers, create their own media - manipulate public opinion.
Now there are no prospects - in twenty years they will be.
To prevent this from happening, they must be crushed by all available means.

PS
I signed the petition and I advise you.

[kugelblitz]

I don't need such "patriots" and sufferers for the people, for example, from the word at all. Dreaming of dividing the country into a hundred small Switzerland. For great Russia from Balashikha to Biryulyovo, the devils are drowning with wax.

[Gray brother]

Quote: kugelblitz

I have such "patriots" and sufferers for the people

Liberals do not think about the people and the country at all, they only think about their loved ones.
From Wikipedia:

Liberalism (from lat. Liberalis - free) is a philosophical and socio-political movement proclaiming the inviolability of human rights and individual freedoms [1].

Liberalism proclaims the rights and freedoms of each person as the supreme value and establishes them as the legal basis of social and economic order.

Every liberal dreams of putting his "rights and freedoms" above everything else, every liberal knows that he is this aforementioned "man", and his personal desires and needs are the very "highest values".
Therefore, they look like kami.

[Voima-liitto]

Quote: Gray Brother

Every liberal dreams of putting his "rights and freedoms" above everything else

In fact, liberalism, as you correctly quoted from Wikipedia, proclaims rights and freedoms each person highest value.
And your phrase "dreams of putting their "rights and freedoms" over everything else "is actually called fascism.
And we perfectly remember that fascism in particular is characteristic extreme intolerance towards people of other views, nationalities, religions, etc. Think about it.

Quote: Gray Brother

Liberals do not think about the people and the country at all, they only think about their loved ones.

And yes, any person first of all thinks about himself beloved and his beloved ones, and only then about others.
Altruism in the war naturally does not take into account, we are talking about peacetime!

[Gray brother]

Quote: Voima-liitto

In fact, liberalism, as you correctly quoted from Wikipedia, proclaims the rights and freedoms of every person

This is from the series "common is no one's" just the opposite.
For example, I am "every person" and I did not ask these passengers to worry about my rights and freedoms, and it irritates me when someone tries to impose their "concern" on me, and even more so their vision of the surrounding reality.
So already, it turns out, not everyone.

[Voima-liitto]

Quote: Gray Brother

For example, I am "every person" and I did not ask these passengers to worry about my rights and freedoms,

And how do you forgive me, your rights and freedoms bothered you?
The ability to access the Internet without a passport and write any comment, including against Putin, if you want ?!
Or buy a car? Or sell an apartment and buy a house?
What rights do you not like today?

[Gray brother]

Quote: Voima-liitto

What rights do you not like today?

I like everything.
But just this fact for some reason does not like ghouls like Navalny, in their opinion I should hate the bloody tyrant Vlad Putin and urgently run to the Kremlin to stagger the throne.
I do not want.

And how do you forgive me, your rights and freedoms bothered you?

Me? This "liberal community" is allegedly worried about my rights, but as soon as (God forbid) they get their hands on power, they will immediately pass it and only their personal rights and freedoms will remain relevant for which they will gnaw anyone's throat.

And to their displeased children in balaclavas their liberalism will come, as it should be, and will quickly turn into fascism.

[Voima-liitto]

Quote: Gray Brother

in their opinion, I should hate the bloody tyrant Vlad Putin and urgently flee to the Kremlin to stagger the throne.
I do not want.

And rightly so.

Quote: Gray Brother

This "liberal community" is allegedly worried about my rights

I explain to you a whole thread that "Anal and Co" are not liberals, but foreign agents hiding behind social democratic views, not liberal.

[Gray brother]

Quote: Voima-liitto

disguised as social democratic views, not liberal ones.

I do not agree. Social democrats are quite far from the rights and freedoms of the individual, they stoke for socialism and fight against the power of the capitalists (Khodorkovsky especially fights ). Perhaps "Anal and Co" took some of their methods into service, but still they are not even close to the Social Democrats.

[Gray brother]

Quote: Voima-liitto

And your phrase "dreams of putting his" rights and freedoms "above everything else" is actually called fascism.

What fascism? They simply consider themselves an aristocracy of a new type.

intolerance towards people of other views,

Are you hinting at me?
I do not touch "people of other views" until they touch me, and their attempts to impose their ideology are perceived by me as aggressive actions and nothing more.
Think about it.

[Voima-liitto]

Quote: Gray Brother

They simply consider themselves an aristocracy of a new type.

Yes, even kings!
Social inequality does not contradict the ideas of liberalism about equal rights and inviolability of citizens.
You will not be sent to prison for criticizing Sobchak on the Internet, even though she is richer than you.
But for criticism of the "secretary of the district committee" in the USSR, they could give a tower, especially in the Stalin years.
What is more important to you, is it guaranteed to live in safety and not to be afraid, or so that "the neighbor's cow dies"?

[Gray brother]

Quote: Voima-liitto

What’s more important to you, you’re guaranteed to be safe and not afraid of yourself,

I live and am not afraid anyway.

the ideas of liberalism on equal rights and integrity of citizens

Khokhlam tell about it - they will appreciate.
Maidan was held under quite liberal slogans, and now those who are dissatisfied with the use of force are being pressed. One "domestic separatism" is worth it.
They live, in fact, in a fascist state.

Thanks of course, but we don’t have that.

[Nymp]

The only thing I disagree with the author is that Gryaznevich is not allowed to let this children close! Who does she bring up from them? Generation of Maidanut!

[Volodin]

Boris, I agree with you.

Well then, let him gain experience in a hosiery and knitwear factory and hold intimate, liberal talks face-to-face with a machine. As an option...

[midivan]

Quote: Nymp

The only thing I disagree with the author is that Gryaznevich is not allowed to let this children close! Who does she bring up from them? Generation of Maidanut!

I would add that you can’t let her in because the evil and bitchy creature is hidden behind the mask of a nice and kind aunt, and God forbid that she could be pissed off

[Grandfather Luka]

N.S. Khrushchev. Quote: "Pederas!"

[astronom1973n]

Communicated with similar young people ..... Do not convince them morally .... Otritsalovo continuous. Unprofitable. Dangerous to society. Russophobes. Who brought them up? What even got to us?

[Zomanus]

Well, let's see what the response to the petition will be.
In general, the guys just make money.
Cut the trickle of money and the party will end.

[Ronin62]

Let them bring them to the "Glubinka", for production according to the diplomas they received, gain experience. Work must be done. And in the Duma, and without them there is someone to sleep at meetings.

[1536]

In my opinion, stop being liberal with this rabble. If they are "not calm", then let it really be so. We have many construction projects where workers are needed. There is calm and food. For retirement, seniority will soon be unimportant. They will work it out, then maybe they will understand how to live. These revolutionaries got it. Dad and mom in administrations or in DEZs ("management companies) probably dug in, they distribute contracts and receive bribes in quiet contracts, and children openly harm and, God forbid, come to power, so they will plunder everything completely. From idleness and impunity, they are ready and sell my own mother.

[dimitris]

As they said in one funny cartoon: "Yes, put them on a count!"

[KOH]

It seems to me that this was also the case in the 37th, only Stalin tore off the bosoms to them, and now they live quietly among us, I wonder what time it will all happen? ... Apparently they are waiting for the people to begin to deal with them themselves, well, it’s simply impossible to they are already calmly watching, their hands itch ...

[Voima-liitto]

Quote: CON

only Stalin tore them off

Calm down already, "the bosoms were ripping off" then the elite of the Russian people - in particular, the creators of the "rocket", whose legacy you were so proud of a couple of days ago, were shot almost in full force, and Korolev was miraculously lucky to survive in the camps.
And in general, "tear off the boshes" due to the fact that you don't like the person must not.
And for those who adhere to such a policy, sooner or later they "tear off the boss" - the most zealous executioners of the 30s were themselves then shot, the most courageous brothers of the 90s themselves did not survive these 90s - but apparently history is nothing teaches.

[Uncle Murzik]

if they were shot, then who created that "rocket heritage"! or liberal nonsense haunt

[Voima-liitto]

Quote: Uncle Murzik

However, if they were shot, then who created that "rocket heritage"!

Oh, I can't, will you deny that the founders of the "rocket" were shot, and Korolev was in prison? Or what?
And then they created it anew, when it finally dawned on the Soviet bureaucracy that "rockets were needed."
Miraculously, the surviving "enemies of the people" then created!
Well, at the same time, out of harm, let me remind you how, apart from the "rocket", they smashed the same geneticists, and cyberneticians along with them.
And as in the camps Vavilov died, a world-famous genetic scientist, creator of the world's largest collection of seeds of cultivated plants.
What successes did the USSR then achieve in genetics and cybernetics, with its best world education in science ?!

[Uncle Murzik]

after all, by a miracle, the country was lifted from ruins after the war, the first flew into space, the first nuclear power station was built! here are miracles

[Voima-liitto]

Quote: Uncle Murzik

the country after the war was raised from ruins

Khrushchev had already raised the country from ruins; under Stalin, the plan for the construction of housing for workers was carried out at best by 50% and in cubic meters it was less than housing was built under the tsar.
Under Stalin, only PALACES of Soviets, pioneers, etc., etc., were built. and the workers at that time lived in terrible conditions. At least some human conditions for the life of a simple person appeared already under Khrushchev.

Quote: Uncle Murzik

first flew into space, the first nuclear power plant built

Yes, who argues that! I’m not you, inventing that the Americans did not fly to the moon!
I admit that Gagarin was in space, with a poor population in the country!
But in the race it does not matter who will score the first goal, but it is important who wins.
The USSR did not have enough forces to chase the United States from the USSR; in 1991 we were not leaders in space or in the atom.
You can google, what is the share of Russian companies building nuclear power plants in the world now.
We concede even France, that’s what we need to think about, and not who built it first!

[Uncle Murzik]

but how many houses were built under the tsar in square meters, but not in cubic meters? gee gig where are the statistics, only if there is one in the Netherlands!

[Voima-liitto]

Quote: Uncle Murzik

gee gee gee where statistics, only if in the Netherlands there!

Gee-gee-gee built so much under the tsar that they later lived in the one built before the 50s, until Khrushchev attended to social housing, and began to move workers from communal apartments and barracks to apartments.

[Uncle Murzik]

well, you're lying again, like all liberals! from 1938 to the first half of 1941, 81,6 million square meters of housing was commissioned! and do not forget that you had to build factories, power plants, strengthen the country's defense! genby.livejournal.com ›177358 .html so how much under the tsar did they build housing for workers? gee gee gee

[Voima-liitto]

Quote: Uncle Murzik

From 1938 to the first half of 1941, 81,6 million square meters of housing were commissioned!

Are you feeling well? Your link says: Moreover, before Stalin, even during the civil war, it was built 2 times more. Judging by the lack of tsarist data, Soviet statisticians were simply unbearably ashamed.
Now for the numbers.
80 million square meters for 4 years is about 20 million per year.
Considering for example the provision of housing in the United States with at least 75 square meters per person, with a similar rate this would be enough to provide housing for a little more than 250 thousand people a year!
Considering the population of the USSR in 1991, almost 300 million people. "Stalinist pace of construction" would need one thousand two hundred years to provide new housing for the entire population in the USSR.
That is, never, because the "Stalinist dwellings" were mainly wooden barracks, the bulk of which collapsed during the time of Stalin
Well, and for comparison, in the first quarter of 2013 alone, more than 15 million square meters of multi-unit and private housing were commissioned in the Russian Federation.
It was built more than under Stalin in the RSFSR in a year, while now it is comfortable apartments and houses, and under Stalin, barracks.

[Uncle Murzik]

here you are lying again! look at the table there the numbers start from 1923 to 1928! and the civil war of 1917-1922! but you wrote about tsarist construction, would you like to hear the numbers? gee gee gee do not like these numbers, bring your own, otherwise it’s just an empty chatter

[varov14]

It's a pity I was late, otherwise I have an offer. Mr. President, I propose to establish the Order of the "Holy Oluh" and make it one of the highest awards of the motherland, with three degrees. A saint is obligatory, in our country there is no way without this, it immediately shows that a person is not of this world, outside the general system, a fighter for the best with good, feeling as much as possible sinless. Goof is already versatility, literally hard-won, fundamental, state position of our establishment and the so-called intelligentsia. Echoing the Olukh component, this is necessarily all by ear, all outside arguments are swept aside or simply become inaudible and completely ignored due to their holiness.

[olimpiada15]

Regarding the "Open Russia"
Everything that is possible and even that which could not be opened and urgently needs to be closed is already open in the country.
The Russian Federation is not just an open country, a country open and turned inside out.

Although this generation of verbiage should be taught a lesson for educational purposes, to compare how "open and free" the West is.

[voyaka uh]

"And there are also 23-year-old candidates." ///

Well yes, candidates must be at least 60 year olds,
70 years are better on oxygen and infusions.

[Stirbjorn]

The children of our bureaucracy, from the ruling party, are all directors and bosses, in the same 23 years. These also want to live just as sweetly and manage the same way - it’s just that all the places are occupied by thieves, and therefore we have to climb through Khodorkovsky. And the fact that, in order to effectively manage, it is necessary, at least a little, to work for subordinates - this is, from their point of view, the logic of losers. So it’s not surprising, the current system itself personifies this

[yushch]

Quote: voyaka uh

"And there are also 23-year-old candidates." ///

Well yes, candidates must be at least 60 year olds,
70 years are better on oxygen and infusions.

60-70 years is also too much, like 23 years. The first forces and health are few, the second experience. I think the optimal return is 35-45 years. Well, if of course there is a young genius, then it is possible at 23.

[Voima-liitto]

Quote: voyaka uh

70 years are better on oxygen and infusions.

And why are these worse than 23 year olds?
Some of them have sysyaka-masya’s tongues, others have boobs-tits in another place, but they didn’t change the awl for soap!

[Dex]

Comrades, when did the change.org website become official? Look at the geographical location of the servers and the jurisdiction of the site - once; site roi.ru president for whom he created - two; look at the statistics of consideration and execution of petitions on roi.ru and reflect on how much time you kill on the petition.

[Voima-liitto]

Quote: Dex

View server geographic location and site jurisdiction

I looked at the date of user registration and the number of comments, I think I even answered in vain, because the bot-comment

[Pvi1206]

Mikhail Borisovich, and you surpass yourself

Name and patronymic testifies to who runs in such organizations, the purpose of which is the destruction of Russia.
They do not consider Russia their homeland. These are rootless cosmopolitans. They feel bad everywhere. This has been the case since their fellow tribesmen betrayed Pilate to the crucifixion of I. Christ.
They are excited on the eve of the next election. Do not achieve their goals. And they calm down until the next election, having received their pieces of silver for a comfortable life.

[Voima-liitto]

Quote: Pvi1206

They do not consider Russia their homeland. These are rootless cosmopolitans.

Nonsense!
You can call me a "rootless cosmopolitan" too, if you like.
But at the same time I, like any other "cosmopolitan", is not at all interested in destabilizing the economy and power in the country in which I live!

[Villiam wolf]

I look at these photos and see juvenile scum and scum! This is exactly how our fates and our children can not be trusted !!!

[Al1977]

Quote: Villiam Wolf

I look at these photos and see juvenile scum and scum! This is exactly how our fates and our children can not be trusted !!!

When you look at the "elders" in the State Duma, at Zyuganov, at Mironov, at Zhirik - do you think that a happy life is prepared for our children?))))

[atamankko]

How many young idiots claim a deputy salary,
even scary becomes, can reduce it to reasonable limits.

[FM-78]

And here is the age, people in the 16th regiment commanded, and in 20, collective farms were raised. The main thing, so to speak, is the "roots". After all, oranges will not be born from aspen, so you should not expect good from these people either at 26 or 96.

[Voima-liitto]

I definitely do not understand in what place are these citizens liberals?
In my opinion they are all classic xenopatriots hiding social democratic ideas, practicing foreign pennies.
And the ideas of liberalism, gentlemen, have long triumphed practically around the world and in Russia in particular!
Freedom of speech, religion, movement, inviolability of private property and so on have long become an integral part of modern Russia, except that the "radical liberalism" of the 90s has replaced today the "moderate liberalism" of the 00s.
And not a single sane person will protest against liberal values ​​today, unless supporters of isolation, serfdom and slavery.
And the small box opens simply, the current level of development of production forces and communication technologies requires the maximum possible social mobility of both the population and capital, and capital is often global, supranational - therefore, the era of "victorious liberalism" is the same inalienable and evolutionary era in human development as the previous ones. her tsarism-feudalism-slavery.

[Uncle Murzik]

you tell us about tolerance, tell us about democracy in the West, look at your rating and calm down!

[Voima-liitto]

Quote: Uncle Murzik

look at your rating and calm down!

Have you come here to get pluses?
Download yourself some RPGshku, and you have a rating there, and then there will be fewer "evil communists"!

[Uncle Murzik]

Yes, I’m all saying that thank God that there are only a few like you, and it pleases!

[Voima-liitto]

Quote: Uncle Murzik

and it pleases!

You can rejoice, no one can forbid you to do this anymore

[Uncle Murzik]

and that someone forbade, I don’t remember, although I’m almost 50 years old! And who didn’t forbid my parents! It’s only in the tales of liberals that everyone forbade

[Voima-liitto]

Quote: Uncle Murzik

and no one forbade my parents! it’s only in the tales of the liberals that everyone forbade

Yes, of course, it was all the "liberals" who came up with the idea that registration was in the USSR and entrepreneurship was prohibited, and that an ordinary Soviet person could not even fly to Bulgaria on vacation.

[Uncle Murzik]

but what about the Hunchback, the cooperative movement! and again you lie your sister worked as a foreman on construction sites and went to Bulgaria and Hungary on vacation packages, and China somehow does without liberalism, and the second power in the world, in some ways and the United States ahead of!

[Gray brother]

Quote: Uncle Murzik

! Yes, and China somehow do without liberalism,

China coped with this infection in 1989, they managed to avoid the fate of the USSR, hence their success.
This is what Tien An Myan life-giving does.

[Uncle Murzik]

so well done chinese!

[Voima-liitto]

Quote: Uncle Murzik

but what about the Hunchback, the cooperative movement!

Shadow economy is not an economy !!!!!

Quote: Uncle Murzik

and again you're lying sister worked as a foreman at construction sites and went to Bulgaria and Hungary on vacation packages!

What kind of merit?

Quote: Uncle Murzik

Yes, and China somehow do without liberalism, and the second power in the world

In China, yes, a paradise for the capitalist. RFP often does not exceed a couple hundred dollars.
Are you ready to live like this? I personally am ready to hire you for this money, I pay 100 dollars and I need to work 12 hours a day, I like it ?!

[Uncle Murzik]

it feels like you don’t live in Russia, no one canceled the registration so far

[Voima-liitto]

Quote: Uncle Murzik

registration has not been canceled so far

I am aware, but it's time.
But only the institution of registration in the Russian Federation is at least liberalized to the utmost.
Without a residence permit, for example, they won’t give credit, or they won’t take any work, but living and working outside the place of residence, at least, doesn’t bother me anymore.

[Uncle Murzik]

and again you are lying! how about the cooperatives in Gorbachev’s time, my sister worked as a foreman at a construction site and went on vacation packages to Bulgaria and Hungary! I feel that you don’t live in Russia, no one has canceled the registration!

[Uncle Murzik]

But how can China do without liberalism? And the second power in the world, in some ways overtakes the United States!

[delvin-fil]

Still need 252 to 15

There is more interesting news:
http://ura.ru/articles/1036267576

Maria Sergeeva may become the youngest federal inspector of the Ural embassy
The Urals embassy is buzzing: in the coming days, Moscow will announce the decision to appoint a new federal inspector. Unexpected for many will be the appearance on this post of a girl who, due to her popularity, as well as presidential envoy Igor Kholmansky, owes rallies. It's about Maria Sergeyeva, "a cutie in pink." A lot of curious about the personnel experiment - read in the material "URA.Ru".

Documents on the appointment of Maria Sergeyeva as federal inspector are being agreed in Moscow. If the appointment happens, Sergeyeva will be the youngest inspector in the apparatus of the Ural embassy.

This is an unprecedented story - thirty-year-old Mary, by the standards of the embassy, ​​is "a man from the street."

[vetka]

Generation of the Unified State. My son has such a teacher in the 2nd grade. Her water is compressed during freezing.

[Forever so]

To lick, lash and lick this shit of the nation heading into power .... VI Lenin. And Khodorkovsky lives on the money of the Rothschild, to whom he transferred all the rights to Yukos before landing. By the way, the destruction of the USSR was planned by Rothschild and carried out with his money. There is a very good article by V. Pavlenko, Doctor of Political Sciences, a full member of the Academy of Geopolitical Problems, "The Great Game" of the Rothschilds and Rockefellers - in the Light and in the Shadows. "
Four years ago, he anticipated the events taking place today. I recommend, not for advertising, but knowledge for.

[Voima-liitto]

Quote: Forever so

By the way, the destruction of the USSR was planned by Rothschild and carried out with his money.

Yeah, that is, the USSR did not have its own internal problems, for example, a defective distribution system?
At least the "Rothschild" of the USSR was falling apart, and it is not even clear which of them!

[Al1977]

Quote: Forever so

To gobble, gobble and gobble this nation's shit booming in power.

And with those who are already in power and the country is in crisis, what should I do?)) Give medals?)))

[Al1977]

By the way ... Only 26 years old, and already so drawn to the State Duma! And why shouldn’t Natasha begin to build a prosperous Russia in the role, for example, of a school teacher (education seems to be appropriate) - at least 10-15 years should be given to pedagogy

What's the problem? And how about you:
Ivan Sechin born in 1989 - one of the two children of the president of Rosneft received a medal of the Order of Merit for the Fatherland, II degree.
Dmitry Patrushev, Chairman of the Board of Rosselkhozbank, son of Secretary of the Security Council Nikolai Patrushev, is among the candidates to the board of directors of Gazprom

So at this age people are already achieving a lot. ))))

PS The article is another diarrhea in the style of "who does not dream is the enemy of the people" for the upcoming State Duma elections.

[dengy12]

when a vacuum cleaner or a car breaks down or a toothache hurts, we turn to professional professionals, but as soon as you need to manage the state or pass laws, all sorts of clowns and crazy city people get into it. and then Putin is to blame

[Fonmeg]

It looks like these "clowns" are the last survivors of the Nazi henchmen! I suppose such creatures need to be deprived of citizenship and kicked in the ass outside the country which they so zealously obcerate by working out 30 Fashington silversmiths!

[sir_obs]

This shushval should not be prohibited, but plagued like an infection. Methodically, without stopping, in three shifts.

[weksha50]

"I am going to the State Duma elections in order to build the Russia in which we all want to live - open and prosperous! Russia, in which there will be opportunities for the realization of each. Russia, in which those rights that are enshrined in our Constitution will be guaranteed: the right to life, security and freedom of speech. Russia must not live according to the law of the strong, but according to the law of the Constitution"...

This is what warps - because the words seem to be correct and beautiful, but inside there is one rot ...

But many grandmothers and grandfathers can lead to such a beautiful "singing" ...

[koralvit]

This is the danger, they say correctly, and the goal is to harm Russia, take youth to the streets, as in Ukraine, weaken or if it turns out to destroy Russia. Khodorkovsky was not allowed to steal, so he is trying to take revenge. Not only grandparents can hang out, but most importantly young people.

[weksha50]

" In principle, the technology is understandable: a person who does not know what labor and honest earnings are from the box is unlikely to bite on the Kasyanov-Khodorkovsky promises of “party success"" ...

That's it ... As long as our generation is alive, we can confidently say that such "candidates" will not pass ...

However, some time will pass, we - we will leave, the generation of Pepsi and Cola will grow up - and then what to expect ???

So again, thoughts return to the same thing: if this sedition and mold are not burned and destroyed now, it will grow to enormous size and occupy the entire useful area of ​​our country ...

PS I regret one thing: sorry for Hodor released !!!

[CRASH]

Mishayugend. Who are they candidates from Open Russia?

What kind of creatures, next.

[iouris]

This is your personal "right sector" of the brain. Of course, the work is carried out only with young people raised by Hollywood "soft power". Greetings from Ambassador Taft.
These Euromaidans should be prohibited from using the words "Russia" and "Russian" in the names when registering "movements".

[Wolka]

through, urgently close this window ...

[aleks700]

By the way ... Only 26 years, and already so drawn to the State Duma! And why not Natasha begin to build a prosperous Russia in the role, for example, of a school teacher

26 is not 26 it's nitpicking. You need to look at the program with which they are going to the polls, and not by age since the law allows. Another thing the party Parnassus speaks for itself.

[eyed]

I don’t understand why the people are amazed, why they are indignant, why the flow of words and letters? The fact that all rubbish creeps into the Duma? And not only with parnassus, avna and other parties in bulk. And who else will be allowed to go there? The answer is very simple - whoever is nada will be allowed. And it’s naive to think that it happens differently ... to my deep regret ....

[Yugra]

Scum. Crush, crush and only crush the fifth column.

[KRIG55]

For a quarter of a century we have not been involved in educating the younger generation. And our partners, led by an exceptional nation, are investing a lot of money in educating our youth, starting with the Unified State Exam and ending with "Open Russia", "Rain" and "Echoes of Moscow". How this could end can be clearly seen from the neighbors. There the state (as well as we) chewed snot, and the Bandera people worked tirelessly. The result is obvious: why are young people eager to become MPs? Yes, because this organization has become a symbol of a sweet life. This is a place where you can live happily without doing anything. At the same time, hiding behind parliamentary immunity. (According to the Labor Code, if you are absent from work for more than 4 hours without good reason, you can be fired without any problems. Mitrofanov and he is not the only one who is already hiding abroad? But he still enjoys all the benefits of the deputy's sweet life), so the conclusions suggest themselves: why, for example, Zyuganov (who is now speaking on TV will not come to the president and ask for a real position to the Government in a difficult and responsible direction ???? Yes, because there you need to work, and it is easier to criticize everyone from all stands and corners and there is no responsibility. There are also Yavlinskys, Khakamads, etc., etc. Apparently the deputies need less immunity and more responsibilities ...

[Synxoi_]

Signed!

[japs]

Do not enroll me in the Black Hundred, but I am in favor of entering the fifth column, and at the same time the "Pale of Settlement", and the very line must be drawn along the state border of the Russian Federation. Even the sovereigns of Russia since the times of Peter the Great thought so. Not for nothing.

[Besmaster]

The other day, a petition was published on change.org, in which the Russian Prosecutor General was called upon to recognize the undesirable activities of the Open Russia organization in the territory of the Russian Federation. At the time of this writing, the petition lacked a little more than 800 signatures (up to 15 thousand) for consideration by the official structures of the Russian Federation and in particular for those to whom the petition addressed.

There on the site for some reason, the slider indicates that 25 thousand signatures are needed. Now 15 thousand out of 25. So all the same, how much is needed for consideration?

[AGV Pagan]

Strangle ... But seriously, Putin is sometimes compared to Stalin. I do not agree.
Vladimir Vladimirovich, too soft with this pro-American liberal-Russophobic bastard.
It seems to me that it is time to take and if not shoot, then at least transplant all this abomination !!!

[magdama]

Where is the line? They can transplant you too. I agree that GDP is too liberal. As if in the terminal he was not imprisoned, like Milos.

[Bramb]

They can’t.
By law, the President is protected for life even after leaving office. For it has secrets and secrets. Rather, he will suddenly die of a heart attack, but they will not be imprisoned for sure.

[Bramb]

Why so immediately and abruptly?
We must first abolish the moratorium on the death penalty, then convene a conference, invite all parties, gather all the liberals and let them show in practice how they can equip Russia.
For example, after 3 months we are going again and reporting: Parnassus for the roads of Omsk, SR - for creating jobs in Vorkuta, others - for what they advocate. Let them show by example that they really can and can do something!
Those who didn’t succeed - they are already under the law to shoot! With confiscation.
More humane need!

[Demeter]

You need such people in Odessa, in the office of Saakashvili, along with Khodor, Yarovaya, Romodanovsky, Grib, Yavlinsky and Prokhor, there is no way without them.

[TT-33]

Quote: Voima-liitto

In general, there was always social stratification, you simply did not write about social stratification in the USSR, you simply did not know about the dachas and secretaries of the secretaries (and the nomenclature had privileges on the nomenclature), and now we have publicity and everything is known, but it’s just unusual for you.
But abroad, and in the same USA, everything is exactly the same.

I have been living in the USA for 18 years. That’s the case, with the difference that a larger percentage of the population is the middle class.

[Erg]

I understand that "rating" can be earned by being between the legs ... But this is for now ...

[magdama]

I don’t understand one thing. Why does Putin keep liberals with him? Is he LIBERAL in the worst sense? Then I'm AGAINST PUTIN. Explanation. Higher. Humanities. But a hard worker now, T.K. There is nothing to eat.

[magdama]

Medvedev-LOKH

[cedar]

Quote: TT-33

Quote: Voima-liitto

In general, there was always social stratification, you simply did not write about social stratification in the USSR, you simply did not know about the dachas and secretaries of the secretaries (and the nomenclature had privileges on the nomenclature), and now we have publicity and everything is known, but it’s just unusual for you.
But abroad, and in the same USA, everything is exactly the same.

I have been living in the USA for 18 years. That’s the case, with the difference that a larger percentage of the population is the middle class.

Joker, you are respected, however...

[b]This is about your middle class... [/b]
"...US GDP is 20% of world GDP. However, this figure is not completely correct, because the United States includes a number of indicators in the volume of its GDP, for example, the cost of certain types of services that other countries do not count in their GDP. If we recalculate according to general rules, then from 20% this figure will decrease to approximately 15%. Well, okay, let it be 20%. And the USA consumes 40% of what is produced annually in the world. A question for those who know how to think: if someone produces 20 % (or 15%?), [b]and it consumes 40%, so someone has to pay for it?
[B]
[b]And this is about our “highest”...[/b]
It really is someone who pays - the rest of the world, which gives America its goods in exchange for [b]unsecured pieces of paper.[/b] At the same time, there is a huge redistribution of world wealth in favor of the United States."
(correction: these [b]unsecured pieces of paper are secured[/b] by the most powerful US army in the world, carrying “freedom” on its bayonets to everyone who does not want to share resources with the US...)

We never even dreamed of your “stratification” under the USSR; now, at the instigation of the USA, a nightmare dream of enrichment and service to Mammon has begun for Russia!

[colonel manuch]

And as you wanted: - these are the children of the “shit democracy” growing up. While the suppuration is not yet such a serious abscess, it is necessary to carefully puncture, in short, “open Russia” - to close, and the organizers and instigators of such organizations and movements must be caught and “treated” in a timely manner; fortunately, the North has not yet been developed much, and Siberia is large.

[Brigadier]

For such jackals there is only one true medicine (by the way, already tested and personally recognized by Comrade Stalin as quite reliable) - THE ICE PICK! It may be unesthetic, but it is reliable and practical!

[Zefr]

Nikolai Artemenko (26 years old, St. Petersburg, deputy assistant). Political views: “Liberal; supporter of a parliamentary republic."

Well, okay, 26 years old, but from the liberal party! This is an "oxymoron". Liberals are defenders of the market and free enterprise. What is he, an entrepreneur? No. And having become a legislator, he becomes an official. And so, a young official, without entrepreneurial experience, is engaged in liberalizing the economy! What nonsense. When a hardened capitalist wants liberalism, this is understandable, but a professional official? It's a no brainer that he's a figurehead. And he himself knows it. And such a person should become a legislator?

[I am human]

[quote=Voima-liitto]Today the average American or European is much more cultural and “spiritual” than the average Russian.[/quote
There is American manure in your head and you are proud of it. But “...we will get all the parasites and soon every bastard will understand how kind Stalin once was and how only he is to blame for this”

[mennio]

I completely agree with everything described above!

[Gypsy girl]

The bad guys have come out!

[Evil 55]

A liberal is like a mosquito.. If he doesn’t bite, he won’t survive.. And his life is short and his memory is equally not eternal..