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Occupants on screen

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Fashion on plots of military occupation in the context of alternative stories continues to shake the world of cinema. At first, viewers of cinemas were shocked by a terrifying remake of “Red Dawn”, and then television was brought up. The Norwegian series "Occupied" turned out to be frankly mediocre, even by the standards of unassuming Scandinavians. The American film version of “The Man in the High Castle” was only slightly better. If we recall the world of animation and computer games, then there such scenes are more common. Either the Axis countries or the bad Russians usually act as occupiers, the latter being much more frequent.




But British cinematographers decided to outdo everyone: in their new creation, the occupiers are Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union. We are talking about the series, the shooting of which is now taking place in the United Kingdom. The plot is based on Lena Dayton's eponymous novel "SS-GB". So far, in Russia, the novelty has hardly been noticed, in any case, there is a vanishingly little mention of it in the media. The end of filming will take place in 2016 year. Date of the premiere has not yet been determined. The photographs leaked to the network from the set show extras in German and Soviet form.

The background is as follows. The famous "Sea Lion" was implemented in 1940 year, and the German troops landed on the beaches of England, whose cities capitulate one by one, without resistance. Churchill was executed, King George VI was imprisoned in the Tower, and Queen Elizabeth fled with her daughters to New Zealand. The Baltic Fleet of the USSR arrives at the shores of Scotland and settles in Rosaite, Scapa Flow and Invergordone. The creators promise us a political detective story, but historians can tear their hair out beforehand, for it is obvious that there will not be any serious connection with the real facts here.

Occupants on screen

On rare frames, "Russian officers" are already noticeable among the Nazis.


Why did such plots suddenly become popular? The main reasons, perhaps, are three. One is purely creative. The other two are political.

First, the viewer became fastidious. For decades, the development of mass cinema, he saw on the screen almost everything: from invasions of newcomers of all stripes to crime and debauchery in the stone jungle of big cities. Come up with something new, the original has become extremely difficult. Therefore, film bosses decided to try something that combines scale and relative lack of desire. The plot of foreign occupation in the genre of alternative history in this plan unexpectedly turned out to be a winning 100%. It is precisely the fiction of events that not only opens up space for scriptwriters (as a rule, is not familiar with history), but also ensures that the feelings of tender Americans or Europeans will not be hurt. This is fiction, right?

Secondly, a clearly political order for bad Russians. It began long before the Crimea and even long before Putin. Anti-Russian agitation quite successfully riveted the West during the reign of Yeltsin. Examples can even lead without getting into the search on the network. Then our liberal political and filmmakers explained it simply. They say that the Russian film and television market is too small, and in the United States, on the basis of this, they make stories without taking into account the feelings and desires of our audience. But, they urged, when our market becomes large enough, foreign (primarily American) producers will have to take into account the feelings of our consumers and not just stop stamping frankly Russophobic things, but also introduce a new pleiad of Russian-speaking actors on the world screen.

And in the middle of the zero on the wave of petrodollars our film market really began to go up and soon caught up with the Chinese. The epoch of “Night Watch” - remember this? And what answered Hollywood and other European and American film factories? Yes, new Russian-speaking actors have appeared, but ... they still play exclusively on gangsters, prostitutes, crazy military men and dictators. There are even more Russophobic films, the size of the film market, as we see, has no effect here. Is that Russian villains are now a little more glamorous, and now they are playing, even the famous English-speaking actors. This is how "the market has adjusted everything." If there is a frank political order to create a certain image of the nation, then it will be executed without regard to the cash register.

Thirdly, since 2010, foreign directors have suddenly aroused an interest in the subject of the Second World War. It is not fully understood what is behind this phenomenon: government orders with the aim of treating the population accordingly or the reaction of the artists themselves to increased global instability. However, the fact remains. It is significant that films and series appear not only in the countries of the victorious, but also the losers, and even those who did not participate in the war at all - like Sweden, where they suddenly remembered about their own border "secret struggle" against Nazism. Until then, the Second World War most often appeared only in the mass cinema of Russia, China, and, perhaps, Finland.

So bad Russian, like all other occupants, in the movies will soon become much more. And this will continue until something changes either in politics or in cinema.
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  1. Good cat
    Good cat April 13 2016 06: 26
    +18
    Well, how do TV people go past an alternative story. Such a field is not plowed and there is no need to turn around for compliance. Take off any nonsense.
    1. Jagermeister
      Jagermeister April 13 2016 07: 44
      -4
      Quote: Good cat
      Well, how do TV people go past an alternative story. Such a field is not plowed and there is no need to turn around for compliance. Take off any nonsense.

      Why is that rubbish.
      A hypothetical, alternative movie, I would love to watch.
      At the time of the partition of Poland, I mean the 1939 campaign, the British could declare war not only on the Reich, but also on the USSR.
      1. Foofighter
        Foofighter April 13 2016 08: 19
        +4
        Could not, especially the USSR west of a certain line of Curzon in general did not go.
      2. vladimirw
        vladimirw April 13 2016 12: 46
        +1
        At the time of the partition of Poland, I mean the 1939 campaign, the British could declare war not only on the Reich, but also on the USSR. [I
        DO THE ENGLISH Could? are you where? or taught history from alternative textbooks ?!
        1. Jagermeister
          Jagermeister April 13 2016 13: 38
          +1
          Hitler was declared a war, so Stalin hesitated with the introduction of troops and sent troops only on September 17
          The Red Army entered the territory of the state with which the British had a military alliance.
          1. Foofighter
            Foofighter April 14 2016 08: 20
            0
            The British guaranteed Polish security only west of the Curzon line (there was such an English lord). By the way, they got into the internal affairs of the Russian Empire, part of which were the Kingdom of Poland and the Duchy of Finland, of the very empire for which you are vying for here ...
            Why did they and France hesitate to declare war on Germany for two days? When the USSR entered the Russian (White-Russian and Little-Russian) lands occupied by Pan Poland, this state, which showed its bankruptcy against the Germans at that time, was gone.
          2. Foofighter
            Foofighter April 14 2016 09: 30
            +1
            Quote: Jägermeister
            Hitler was declared a war, so Stalin hesitated with the introduction of troops and sent troops only

            And why did Stalin hesitate these 2 days, the war was not yet declared by England and France of Germany? What were they afraid of? lol

            Stalin did not intend to fight with Pan Poland, he called her for collective defense, the Psheks refused.
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      3. Alexey RA
        Alexey RA April 13 2016 14: 44
        +1
        Quote: Jägermeister
        At the time of the partition of Poland, I mean the 1939 campaign, the British could declare war not only on the Reich, but also on the USSR.

        That's right - in order to ruin the Island Empire with a guarantee.
        There is little Britain’s war in Europe and the Atlantic - let’s also do a theater of war in the Middle East and Central Asia. And at the same time, we will resurrect the ghost of the Indian campaign of Russia. smile
        1. Jagermeister
          Jagermeister April 13 2016 15: 24
          -4
          Perhaps that is why they did not get involved. But this does not mean that war was then impossible. The collision could have happened back in Finland.
          1. Foofighter
            Foofighter April 14 2016 08: 28
            0
            Probably because since 1936, if not earlier, everything was done so that they sat behind a ditch, and the European nations destroyed each other, especially the Russians, whom the Red Terror, thanks to Stalin's purges of the maniac-Trotskyists, did not completely destroy.
      4. vvp2
        vvp2 April 14 2016 11: 18
        -1
        Quote: Jägermeister
        At the time of the partition of Poland, I mean the 1939 campaign, the British could declare war not only on the Reich, but also on the USSR.

        This is the mutual dexterity of Dzhugashvili and the foresight of the British.
        1. By the time of the beginning of the "Polish campaign" of the Red Army on September 17, the British already understood that in the future they would need the USSR for the war with Germany. Therefore, they did not declare war on him far-sightedly, although not that they could, they were obliged.
        2. Dzhugashvili by the time of the beginning of the "Polish campaign" firmly knew that Britain would need him for the subsequent war with Germany. Therefore, the USSR will not declare war.
        So it basically came out, only the 1940 company. the British did not expect to get it. And Dzhugashvili did not expect that Germany SAMA would attack him in the summer of 1941. He believed that the Red Army was several goals stronger than the Wehrmacht (counting bookkeeping in aircraft, tanks, guns and soldier's pieces) and therefore he himself planned in the autumn of 1941. get continental Europe in your pocket.
        However, everything turned out differently, because corporals had their own plans for the future.
        By the way, there is one fact that characterizes "the steepness of Dzhugashvili, whom everyone feared." During the "Polish campaign" in 1939. in the region of Bialystok, the Red Army went quite far beyond the "Curzon Line". And the border between the Reich and the USSR lay there much to the west. So, after WW2, the USSR, at the insistence of Britain, returned these lands to Poland. And he returned it in the Lvov region. Right at the 1945 Crimean Conference. undertook (this is when everyone "feared Dzhugashvili" as it were most). This is what Dzhugashvili and the USSR had "international weight" in 1945.
        1. dkflbvbh
          dkflbvbh April 15 2016 08: 12
          0
          Suvorov have read? ...
          1. vvp2
            vvp2 April 15 2016 10: 48
            0
            Quote: dkflbvbh
            Suvorov have read? ...

            No, I just know the story. Many historical documents are now available in different languages. Therefore, it makes no sense to retell the story in the version of the Agitation and Propaganda Department of the CPSU Central Committee.
            In addition to the documents, the actions of the parties are now known. All together, these are very serious arguments.
    2. Starover_Z
      Starover_Z April 13 2016 09: 27
      +6
      Quote: Good cat
      Well, how do TV people go past an alternative story. ... take off any nonsense.

      Monsters, vampires, zombies and aliens will not scare you abroad. People do not believe in drunken bears with balalaikas. So something new is needed, from the era of the "cold wars" and the glorification of the "rambs" - bloodthirsty Russians, who were not allowed to conquer them together with the Germans!
      Like an unplowed field and the naked desert of Nevada!
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    4. siberalt
      siberalt April 13 2016 11: 03
      +2
      It's always better to talk about a movie after you watch it yourself. In the meantime, no one even saw him. What is the bazaar about? fellow
  2. strelets
    strelets April 13 2016 06: 38
    +8
    Creative crisis however. We’ll pick up any archive - a bunch of great stories. Here you and the heroism of ordinary people, and well-planned military operations. And what do they have? There is nothing to brag about. We have to invent.
    1. Pinkie F.
      Pinkie F. April 13 2016 07: 10
      +2
      Quote: strelets
      We’ll pick up any archive - a bunch of great stories. Here you and the heroism of ordinary people, and well-planned military operations. And what do they have?

      same. There are many plots. Just banal reconstruction is not interesting to anyone today. And the heroic lubok is not interesting. The British understood this for a long time and since the end of the 50s did not remove the heroically elevated pulp. And besides, you should not put cinema and TV on one board.
    2. aba
      aba April 13 2016 07: 24
      +5
      Creative crisis however.

      You are wrong, these are deliberate actions that have a specific purpose.
    3. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA April 13 2016 14: 54
      0
      Quote: strelets
      Creative crisis however. We’ll pick up any archive - a bunch of great stories. Here you and the heroism of ordinary people, and well-planned military operations. And what do they have? There is nothing to brag about. We have to invent.

      They have the same thing - there is material. but nobody wants to shoot.
      Until Spielberg and NVO raised the topic of "Airborne Forces in Europe" and "Marines for TO" - these events remained the lot of a handful of fans of military history. But it turned out that this material can be used to make two good epics.
      The reason is simple - they give money for a promoted brand, for well-known events. So they shoot the same landing several times, and without departing far from the generally accepted version. And only the director, who will be given money just by name, can break this chain. smile

      In our country, by the way, in the same way they once again glorify GlavPUR's "The feat of 28 Panfilov's men" instead of the same Ilyinsky borders.
      1. Pinkie F.
        Pinkie F. April 13 2016 18: 56
        +1
        Quote: Alexey RA
        Until Spielberg and NVO raised the topic of "Airborne Forces in Europe" and "Marines for TO" - these events remained the lot of a handful of fans of military history. But it turned out that this material can be used to make two good epics.

        I do not understand the minuses of your comment. "BoBr." and Pacific are great series, some of which have become icons of the genre. My heroes are also captain Ermakov and Sanya Maleshkin, but why the blunt knocking of the forehead on the gates "dy-one-war-haven't-seen"? But as for the D-day theme, then, IMHO, according to the skill of the synthesis of battles and episodes, Spielberg with his "Ryan" is not. Although, to be honest, for me "Liberation" has not been surpassed by anyone.
      2. Pinkie F.
        Pinkie F. April 13 2016 19: 16
        0
        Quote: Alexey RA
        in the same way, GlavPUR's "Feat of 28 Panfilovites" is once again glorified

        By the way, I also agree. A lot of copies around the project were broken (on VO in particular), and the local "artistic council" issued the verdict "I'll be out!" I don't quite understand why call a reconstruction action cinema? If you need a film "how-it-was", then this is quite achievable with high-quality animation technology (in fact, I'm sure that PzKpfw 3 will be so smile ) There was no script. What is the point of pumping and throwing a fan about "folk cinema"? Serious cinema is not done on the knee by enthusiasts. However, for our domestic modern cinema - even a low budget, even comparable to "ankle-deep" with Hollywood - at the exit of the faeces fair of vanity. I'm tired of it.
        1. Alexey RA
          Alexey RA April 14 2016 12: 24
          0
          Quote: Pinky F.
          However, for our domestic modern cinema - even a low budget, even comparable to "ankle-deep" with Hollywood - at the exit of the fecal vanity fair. I'm tired of it.

          Each next film of our directors makes the previous masterpiece. (C) smile
  3. 1536
    1536 April 13 2016 06: 38
    +8
    If I ever watch this film, then do not think that my sympathies will be on the side of the British. Taki no! And the world today would live in a completely different way if the events in it developed according to the above scenario. But as? Imagine for a moment that German rationalism, punctuality and professionalism were combined with Russian reverie, dedication, unconventional thinking, and the great manufacturing industry with the great mining? And why do we need in this case some islands inhabited by the evil barbarian people? Let them live in their reserve.
    Apparently, the British are born in wild horror that someone will capture them and make them slaves. It’s understandable fears, because all normal people know: how it comes around, it will respond. But the British have something to fear.
    1. CONTROL
      CONTROL April 13 2016 07: 47
      +1
      Quote: 1536
      Imagine for a moment that German rationalism, punctuality and professionalism were combined with Russian reverie, dedication, unconventional thinking, and the great manufacturing industry with the great mining? And why do we need in this case some islands inhabited by the evil barbarian people? Let them live in their reserve.

      Something - similar plots - was in our alternative historical fiction, it seems to Andrei Lazarchuk ...
      -----
      ... God forbid, ours will undertake to shoot something like that; they will probably be deceived, like "Inhabited Island" or "Night Watch" ... if they are cheap opportunists "maitre" Bondarchuk or American Bekmambetov ...
    2. Jagermeister
      Jagermeister April 13 2016 07: 56
      .
      Quote: 1536
      If I ever watch this film, then do not think that my sympathies will be on the side of the British. Taki no!

      And why do we need in this case some islands inhabited by the evil barbarian people? Let them live in their reserve.

      Who is the evil barbarian people?
      Chosser and Shakespeare, Handel and Nelson, Galsworthy and Conan Doyle?
      Steve Hawking
      Hugh Laurie
      Jason Statham
      Winston Churchill
      Charles Darwin
      John Lennon
      Paul McCartney
      Michael Faraday
      Charles Dickens
      King Arthur
      Freddie Mercury
      David Beckham
      Charlie Chaplin
      James Cook
      The list goes on and on.
      He graduated from literally all the captains of the fleet of His Majesty Emperor Peter the Great and half of the good servants of the fleet of Catherine the Great, the winner of the Turks and conqueror of Crimea.
      1. Foofighter
        Foofighter April 13 2016 08: 26
        +16
        Banter counted laughing

        Quote: Jägermeister
        Winston Churchill

        I alone that he was hanged in the article like?
        and as soon as the rope stood ...

        King Arthur was a Celt, fought with the British, the rest of the homosexuals and football players do not even deserve the ropes

        Faraday - yes

        Peter the first hired mainly in the Dutch fleet, which was then made by the British and mowed under one admiral about which the Dutch recently made a movie

        France defeated Holland on land and not England at sea, the British even could not cope with the Danish fleet without fraud.
        They only have a trafalgar (where Nelson copied Ushakov’s tactics), they celebrate him.
        1. Jagermeister
          Jagermeister April 13 2016 10: 52
          -5
          Quote: FooFighter
          Banter counted laughing

          Quote: Jägermeister
          Winston Churchill

          I alone that he was hanged in the article like?
          and as soon as the rope stood ...

          King Arthur was a Celt, fought with the British, the rest of the homosexuals and football players do not even deserve the ropes

          Faraday - yes

          Peter the first hired mainly in the Dutch fleet, which was then made by the British and mowed under one admiral about which the Dutch recently made a movie

          France defeated Holland on land and not England at sea, the British even could not cope with the Danish fleet without fraud.
          They only have a trafalgar (where Nelson copied Ushakov’s tactics), they celebrate him.

          There was only a whole series of Anglo-Dutch wars. And by the middle of the XVIII century, Holland as a great sea power ceased to exist. New York was a Dutch province. He became English. And Ceylon.
          The Dutch at Peter were joiners at the shipyards. Not captains.
          And the players ... well, it's not for us to talk about football.
          1. Alexey RA
            Alexey RA April 13 2016 15: 02
            +5
            Quote: Jägermeister
            The Dutch at Peter were joiners at the shipyards. Not captains.

            What are you saying? And where did the first Commander of the BF Cornelius Kruis come from? Or the commander of the Kotlin squadron and the same BF Weybrant Shelting? wink
          2. Foofighter
            Foofighter April 14 2016 08: 40
            0
            Only here the British were clobbering in these wars. Then the French were hit by the French from the south. And how are the British among the Dutch, for example, Indonesia with all its spices not taken away?
            English ships were much worse than Dutch, and especially Italian, he had them in shipyards, and slept under the stairs in the closet instead of learning the same from Russian Pomors
            Teach more hockey ...
        2. creak
          creak April 13 2016 12: 34
          +4
          Quote: FooFighter
          King Arthur was a Celt, fought with the British,


          There is no reliable evidence that the legendary King Arthur with his Round Table and the Escalibur sword (as well as Merlin and the island of Avalon)
          Due to this, there are a lot of versions in this regard.
          As in Russian history, there is the legendary treasure sword and no less legendary three heroes ...
          But he certainly couldn’t fight the British because the British, as a united nation, weren’t there at that time ...
          This process began much later, after the departure of the Romans, after the conquest of the indigenous population of the island of Britons by the Germanic tribes of Angles and Saxons and the conquest of the country by William the Conqueror after the Battle of Hastings ...
          This was the active and controversial period of the formation of the English nation ...
          So the situation was something like this ....
          1. Warrior2015
            Warrior2015 April 13 2016 15: 38
            0
            Quote: ranger
            There is no reliable evidence that the legendary King Arthur with his Round Table and the Escalibur sword (as well as Merlin and the island of Avalon)
            Yeah, rather, he was a Brito-Roman. But the Celt ... too doubtful, well, the Celts were not military aristocrats in Rome.

            Quote: ranger
            But he certainly couldn’t fight the British because the British, as a united nation, weren’t there at that time ...
            Yes, I rather fought with the Germanic tribes of the Saxons, Jutes, etc.
          2. Foofighter
            Foofighter April 14 2016 08: 51
            +1
            If so, then why do you write it in the English? laughing

            Quote: ranger
            and no less legendary three heroes.

            the relics of Ilya Muromets are

            In the USSR, they talked about the legendary defense of Sevastopol and Leningrad
      2. Aaleks1974
        Aaleks1974 April 13 2016 09: 09
        +12
        And why is this list of actors and players here? And for the most part of American origin?
        Small-breds are one of our most consistent enemies, and, even in those brief moments when they were our "allies", they managed to spoil us even more than when they were direct enemies. So from our point of view, barbarians are a very kind word about this scum.
        1. Jagermeister
          Jagermeister April 13 2016 10: 41
          .
          Quote: Aaleks1974
          And why is this list of actors and players here? And for the most part of American origin?
          Small-breds are one of our most consistent enemies, and, even in those brief moments when they were our "allies", they managed to spoil us even more than when they were direct enemies. So from our point of view, barbarians are a very kind word about this scum.

          Tell us where the British managed to spoil.
          Do not forget that Lenin and Co. were going to set up collective farms on the Island. And someone Litvinov was sent from there, with a scandal, on the same topic.
          1. Same lech
            Same lech April 13 2016 11: 24
            +7
            In his memoirs, Churchill wrote: “On the one hand, I was afraid for the future, on the other, I wanted to help a broken enemy.” The naval minister believed that "to conquer Russia ... we can only with the help of Germany. Germany should be invited to help us in the liberation of Russia. ” Thus, Great Britain could pit two great powers in a bloody conflict among themselves and thereby ensure its interests both on the European continent and in Asia. Churchill thus formulated the goal of his policy: "Peace with the German people, the war against the Bolsheviks."


            Here he is your CHURCHILL ...

            HESS flying to England on May 10, 1941 could tell a lot about the real CHURCHILL ...
            but the British prudently strangled him as an extra witness ... smile Berezovsky hehe surprisingly repeated his fate.
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      4. Dim Bes
        Dim Bes April 13 2016 09: 33
        +11
        Quote: Jägermeister
        Winston Churchill

        Yes, Bye Dear, the henbane has overeaten? Or are you carried away by the "smoke", no matter what entity? If you cite the Real Ghoul - Churchill - as an example (you don't even want to remember the other ghouls), then you made a big mistake with the site. To you on the censor, there you, with such views, "embrace and love" as a darling. You know, here too many have a horizons not already yours, there is no need to continue the list indefinitely. But there will be much, much more bloodsuckers like your hero on this list. Good luck.
        1. Jagermeister
          Jagermeister April 13 2016 10: 43
          .
          Quote: Dim Bes
          Quote: Jägermeister
          Winston Churchill

          Yes, Bye Dear, the henbane has overeaten? Or are you carried away by the "smoke", no matter what entity? If you cite the Real Ghoul - Churchill - as an example (you don't even want to remember the other ghouls), then you made a big mistake with the site. To you on the censor, there you, with such views, "embrace and love" as a darling. You know, here too many have a horizons not already yours, there is no need to continue the list indefinitely. But there will be much, much more bloodsuckers like your hero on this list. Good luck.

          Churchill was our ally and 22.06/41. XNUMX declared unconditional support for the Soviet people in their struggle.
          Stalin should have given up British help. Why didn’t he?
          1. Foofighter
            Foofighter April 14 2016 09: 44
            0
            Can he still attack after refusal with Hitler? He began to support in 1944, or rather to pick up what was left of the Germans. Less than a year before the end of the war. The British seriously fought with Hitler for less than 9,5 months from June 6, 1944 to March 22, 1945, then the Germans stopped resistance on the western front and the "allies" simply moved forward
      5. Hlavaty
        Hlavaty April 13 2016 09: 49
        +4
        Quote: Jägermeister
        King Arthur

        Is this not a mythical hero?
        1. Jagermeister
          Jagermeister April 13 2016 10: 44
          -2
          Quote: Hlavaty
          Quote: Jägermeister
          King Arthur

          Is this not a mythical hero?

          No. And Yaroslav the Wise fairy-tale character?
          1. Hlavaty
            Hlavaty April 13 2016 19: 09
            +1
            So far, historians have not found evidence of the historical existence of Arthur

            https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9A%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%BB%D1%8C_%D0%90%D1%80%

            D1%82%D1%83%D1%80

            At least there is no doubt about the existence of Yaroslav.
      6. 1536
        1536 April 13 2016 15: 20
        +10
        Here is what Charles Dickens wrote about the sepoy uprising in India in 1857, which was barbarously crushed by the British troops:
        “It’s a shame I’m not in command of our troops in India. It certainly would not occur to me to treat the rebels as residents of the London Strand or Camden Town. First of all, I would surprise these eastern people by addressing them in their own language. “My post,” I would declare, “by the grace of God was sent down to me only in order to try by all means to exterminate the people who have stained themselves with atrocities.” I would ask them as a personal favor to notice that I have come with this very purpose and intend without unnecessary words, without delay, quickly and in a businesslike manner to wipe them all off the face of the earth and send them to another world. "
        Is this not barbarism ?!
        Something I did not read similar words neither at L. Tolstoy, nor at M. Lermontov. Both fought in the Caucasus, both knew what war is, what disasters it brings to people, and did not heroize this misfortune.
  4. qwert
    qwert April 13 2016 06: 46
    +15
    Quote: strelets
    Creative crisis however. We’ll pick up any archive - a bunch of great stories. Here you and the heroism of ordinary people, and well-planned military operations.

    But we are not being filmed about it right now. Domestic films are in fact even worse than foreign ones. It is one thing when the British expose the Russians to be bad, but when the Russian cinematography tries to impress the youth that our heroic grandfathers were cattle, porters and sadists, this is a completely different matter. This is already dangerous. And that is mean ...
  5. Kenneth
    Kenneth April 13 2016 06: 54
    +5
    Well, look proud as we are Anglo-Saxons. all the more so since we have a lot of people who think that if we united with Germany we would have won all. By the way, the occupied quite suitable film is mainly about the betrayal of the European Union and the stupidity of local patriots.
    1. Antropos
      Antropos April 13 2016 09: 03
      +3
      He also looked with interest and agreed with the comment. But struck by the frenzy of the plot. Why the hell do Russians climb and get the Norwegians to extract oil and gas again? Announce termination tomorrow - Sechin will choke on happiness: minus the competitor! And the second half of the plot's idiocy is the sudden cessation of production. It is more logical to start an alternative project first, bring it to mind, etc. And then, spitting on the contracts and the needs of consumers, the norgs make a decision in the style of ukrogabon. But the movie looks cool.)))))))
  6. Mentor
    Mentor April 13 2016 06: 54
    +1
    Quote: qwert
    Quote: strelets
    Creative crisis however. We’ll pick up any archive - a bunch of great stories. Here you and the heroism of ordinary people, and well-planned military operations.

    But we are not being filmed about it right now. Domestic films are in fact even worse than foreign ones. It is one thing when the British expose the Russians to be bad, but when the Russian cinematography tries to impress the youth that our heroic grandfathers were cattle, porters and sadists, this is a completely different matter. This is already dangerous. And that is mean ...

    So far only writing. Although Ivakin and Kontorovich acquired the rights to film adaptation of the books, "We Will Die Yesterday" and the cycle "Black Pea Jacket", respectively.
  7. inkass_98
    inkass_98 April 13 2016 07: 04
    +5
    The bourgeoisie never had a tendency to change - just as the Russians were enemies and spies, and then the leaders of the mafia, everything remained. And there was no change in this direction. So why now expect something different in the types of Russians in the world (read - Goliwood) cinema? While the people are waving, nothing will change.
    Quote: Kenneth
    By the way, the occupied quite suitable film is mainly about the betrayal of the European Union

    I completely agree here, we must look into the background of the plot - there, after all, it was the EU that decided to punish Norway for gas affairs, and for some reason it called Russia, not NATO, as an executor. So it turns out that the villains in this series are not Russian, but all the same Europeans, who at one time gave Hitler Czechoslovakia and Austria.
  8. parusnik
    parusnik April 13 2016 07: 18
    +5
    Secondly, clearly a political order for bad Russians... And when there was an order for good Russians .. it never was .. Yes and never will .. It’s time to get used to it ... And shoot your own movie ..
    1. Basarev
      Basarev April 13 2016 11: 27
      +2
      Well, I don’t know, the X-Men was a very good Russian Colossus ...
  9. aba
    aba April 13 2016 07: 22
    +4
    If we recall the world of animation and computer games, then there are such stories are even more common.

    If we also touch on this aspect, I would like to remind you of the rather successful game "Metro: Last Light" created by 4A Games from Ukraine. And what is amazing, but today it is clear why, then the game turns out that the Nazis of the Reich were created by the authors more attractively than the red ones. And what's more interesting is that the game was released in 2013.
    Here is such a memory ... Sold like conscience for American dollars.
    1. CONTROL
      CONTROL April 13 2016 07: 56
      +1
      Quote: aba
      I would like to remind you of the rather successful game "Metro: Last Light (Russian Metro: Ray of Hope)" created by 4A Games from Ukraine. And what is amazing, but today it is clear why, then the game turns out that the Nazis of the Reich were created by the authors more attractively than the red ones.

      The first part - "Metro 2033" was much better in terms of the plot, and the Nazis are fascists! - there were co-o-o-all not attractive!
      1. aba
        aba April 13 2016 08: 25
        +3
        Yes, here, too, are not humanists, but in this game the source of all troubles is "RED COMMUNIES"
        1. Greenwood
          Greenwood April 13 2016 15: 53
          0
          Passed both parts. The first part with reservations, but generally repeated the book of Glukhovsky. And Last Light was already essentially a gag of igrodelov, albeit with the participation of the same Glukhovsky. Although it was played all the same in the same breath, some types of destroyed Moscow were worth it.
  10. erased
    erased April 13 2016 08: 02
    +4
    There is no need to nod to the West, they are supposed to pour slop on Russians. Look at your movies. From the notorious Penal Battalion to Serving Sov. Union and other "masterpieces". No enemies will shit better!
  11. salavat
    salavat April 13 2016 08: 11
    0
    Oooh, I haven’t seen a sticky stick for a long time. From these films, one can judge the incidence of substances used by the creators.
  12. Jagermeister
    Jagermeister April 13 2016 08: 12
    +7
    By the way, in the last "Dancing with the Stars" one dancer came out in the uniform of a Wehrmacht officer with a schmeiser ...
    How strange it all is.
    1. aba
      aba April 13 2016 08: 23
      +3
      Wow?! Have you danced "The Last Tango in Paris"? Although what's the difference under what sauce to promote fascism on the Russian Central Television.
      1. Foofighter
        Foofighter April 13 2016 08: 47
        +1
        and why didn’t they shoot him as expected? German officers in Soviet captivity were put only edged weapons
        it is on the western front that the SS men were not captured at all
    2. Was mammoth
      Was mammoth April 13 2016 09: 21
      +5
      I saw it too. And how the judges admired this masterpiece! There is enough of its own creative "elite". Without the West.
  13. Riv
    Riv April 13 2016 08: 24
    +3
    It reminded me of a toy for Android. Type of turrets. They put cannons, machine guns, all kinds of lasers, and the Russians put rods on you in tanks with stars, rocket launchers and on foot. And now, what's funny: the balance of the game is such that it is IMPOSSIBLE to stop the Russians. As the level increases, the strength of their tanks increases with progression and as soon as the loot (dollars, Karl!) Ends, the khan comes to the base.
    Even if you force the entire map to rocket launchers, at one point, the Russian tank, even alone and under continuous nuclear strikes, will reach the target.
  14. Dimy4
    Dimy4 April 13 2016 08: 53
    +3
    On the left is a soldier, well, just a machine gunner’s dream. As soon as the form was pulled on.
  15. Pinkie F.
    Pinkie F. April 13 2016 09: 41
    +1
    Quote: FooFighter
    They only have a trafalgar (where Nelson copied Ushakov’s tactics), they celebrate him.

    no need to think fatally. They have, for example, Douglas Bader. The biography is bright, but the 1956 film is frank bullshit.
    1. Foofighter
      Foofighter April 13 2016 10: 46
      0
      so how should it be? all the same, they had a strange war
      https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Бадер,_Дуглас_Роберт
      I don’t think that any requests were considered on the eastern front, all the more so as one of the Luftwaffe pilots considered it his duty to amuse our downed pilots.
      1. Pinkie F.
        Pinkie F. April 13 2016 12: 07
        -1
        Quote: FooFighter
        what's on the eastern front

        what does the eastern front have to do with it? The British do not care about him, they make films about themselves and for themselves. We do the same. An eternal dispute, whose war was worse and bloodier, and an attempt on someone else's sacredness leads to nothing. The only more or less successful experience in the show why did we need to save Europe from the Nazis was in documentary with "Unknown War".
        1. Foofighter
          Foofighter April 14 2016 09: 24
          0
          He was absent? Or are you British? This "Unknown War" was not called that for nothing. The USSR knew about the battle for England. Western human losses from "allies" are less dozens of time.
  16. Basil50
    Basil50 April 13 2016 10: 23
    +5
    There is such a very talented O Tabakov who, in response to a remark about the unworthiness of the stage to carry all kinds of abomination, said: * but they go for it and bring money *. That's all. That is, pay, and concoct anything, to the best of talent. Among them are no longer RUSSIAN CITIZENS, only traders. The last time * kins * about the GREAT PATRIOTIC WAR are built only on the basis of the nobility of the Germans and the hysteria and meanness of the RED ARMY. It is a pity it is impossible to put such figures in the face, and even more sorry for the impunity of those who pay such libel from the state treasury.
  17. Nikita Gromov
    Nikita Gromov April 13 2016 10: 33
    +3
    The liberal cinema photographer, like the nature of the entire liberal system, is cunning, mean and dodgy, and serves purely ideological and zombie purposes. If you need to denigrate, slander and vulgarize someone, then he sculpts his film production from the most incomparable facts - the main thing. to once again inject into the minds of the audience, another batch of poison, his ugly and perverse installation.
  18. Stas57
    Stas57 April 13 2016 10: 43
    +8
    Federal channel. Prime time. Dance Show.
    The rhetorical question: nah
    1. Foofighter
      Foofighter April 13 2016 10: 48
      0
      pleased with this ... or the patch on the wrong side?
    2. Foofighter
      Foofighter April 13 2016 10: 50
      +3
      still military caps were some kind of Pinochet, or is this also a joke?
      1. Egevich
        Egevich April 13 2016 10: 59
        +1
        Quote: FooFighter
        still military caps were some kind of Pinochet


        Pinochet’s caps have long gone out of military fashion ... right now, maaaaaalenkie, just like under the king ...

        1. Foofighter
          Foofighter April 14 2016 13: 14
          0
          under the king were not like that
          http://karbinerkurz.livejournal.com/463021.html
  19. Warrior2015
    Warrior2015 April 13 2016 11: 15
    -3
    Congratulations to the author with a good review!
    On rare frames, "Russian officers" are already noticeable among the Nazis.
    In general, this can be called a "come true British nightmare" - tk. indeed the Reich and the USSR were the closest allies in 1940.

    Quote: 1536
    Apparently, the British are born in wild horror that someone will capture them and make them slaves. It’s understandable fears, because all normal people know: how it comes around, it will respond. But the British have something to fear.
    It’s interesting, but don’t throw the examples — what nations did the British make their slaves? I just somehow forgot ...

    But by the way, how what is presented in the film looked like in the dreams of the Nazis - the poster "Churchill crosses out English cities on death row" 1940. leaders.
    1. Antropos
      Antropos April 13 2016 13: 10
      +1
      Can you tell me the date of signing the union agreement? "Congratulations, citizen, you lied!" (FROM)
    2. AllXVahhaB
      AllXVahhaB April 13 2016 13: 18
      0
      How loud it sounds - the closest allies! And what was this union expressed in, besides the notorious pact ???
  20. alicante11
    alicante11 April 13 2016 11: 35
    0
    Oh, and I'm sorry that this alternative did not come true. If Hitler had not been such a stubborn Nazi, the USSR could well have divided Eurasia with the Axis countries, and then the Americans could not have achieved present hegemony. And we, without the Second World War, perhaps at the Stalinist pace, would have lived under communism ... dreams, dreams ...
  21. Warrior2015
    Warrior2015 April 13 2016 13: 38
    +1
    Quote: Anthropos
    Can you tell me the date of signing the union agreement? "Congratulations, citizen, you lied!" (FROM)


    Quote: AllXVahhaB
    How loud it sounds - the closest allies! And what was this union expressed in, besides the notorious pact ???


    Comrades, it’s extremely difficult to catch me in something; I’m generally correct in the information voiced, unlike your unfounded accusations.

    The USSR and the Third Reich conducted active trade, and exchanged strategic military materials. In the beginning of the 40x the USSR did not have such developed trade relations and such a gigantic commodity circulation as with the Reich with any other European country in the USSR.

    They exchanged military technologies (and Germany, oddly enough, quite sincerely, and the USSR concealing the latest achievements - and Soviet engineers were indignant - how can it be? Germans cannot be so backward! They obviously withhold the latest weapons!). With no country in the world of the USSR in 1939-1941. did not conduct such active military-technical cooperation as with Germany.

    The USSR and the Reich agreed on the division of spheres of influence, on the prevention of infringement of each other's interests; fought wars in various regions, taking into account mutual interests.

    I would especially like to ask you - if not in this, then in what is the alliance expressed? request

    Quote: alicante11
    Oh, and I'm sorry that this alternative did not come true. If Hitler had not been such a stubborn Nazi, the USSR could well have divided Eurasia with the Axis countries
    Yes, I am also extremely sorry for such an unfulfilled alternative, for I am incredibly sorry for the 27 of millions of Soviet lives burned in the crucible of a completely vain war, among which were my relatives ...
    1. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA April 13 2016 15: 18
      +2
      Quote: Warrior2015
      The USSR and the Third Reich conducted active trade, and exchanged strategic military materials. In the beginning of the 40x the USSR did not have such developed trade relations and such a gigantic commodity circulation as with the Reich with any other European country in the USSR.

      In the Russian Empire, in 1913, Germany was also the largest foreign trade partner. However, for some reason, no one writes her to Germany’s allies. smile
      Quote: Warrior2015
      Not a single country in the world of the USSR in 1939-1941. did not conduct such active military-technical cooperation as with Germany.

      Not at all because the USSR wanted to trade precisely with Germany. But because someone announced moral embargo for deliveries to the USSR.
      Quote: Warrior2015
      I would especially like to ask you - if not in this, then in what is the alliance expressed?

      Look at the cooperation of Germany and Finland in the first half of 1941. This is alliance.
      1. Jagermeister
        Jagermeister April 13 2016 19: 51
        0
        The Russian empire was an integral part of the Entente military bloc, while Germany was part of the Central Powers bloc and this was formalized in agreements. Therefore, Russia and Germany could not be allies.
    2. Alf
      Alf April 13 2016 18: 20
      +1
      Quote: Warrior2015
      The USSR and the Reich agreed on the division of spheres of influence, on the prevention of infringement of each other's interests;

      Say it on June 22, 1941.
      1. Jagermeister
        Jagermeister April 13 2016 19: 52
        -1
        Quote: Alf
        Quote: Warrior2015
        The USSR and the Reich agreed on the division of spheres of influence, on the prevention of infringement of each other's interests;

        Say it on June 22, 1941.

        Well...
        Stalin was bred ...
        That's what we argue about.
        1. Foofighter
          Foofighter April 14 2016 12: 39
          0
          Who and how? The fact that he gave the Germans Poland, which by 1915 had been Russian for 150 years? Or what did the British do for him?
        2. Foofighter
          Foofighter April 14 2016 12: 39
          0
          Who and how? The fact that he gave the Germans Poland, which by 1915 had been Russian for 150 years? Or what did the British do for him?
    3. vvp2
      vvp2 April 13 2016 20: 32
      -2
      Quote: Warrior2015
      The USSR and the Reich agreed on the division of spheres of influence, on the prevention of infringement of each other's interests; fought wars in various regions, taking into account mutual interests.

      Quote: Jägermeister
      Stalin was bred ...

      For the time being, for the time being. But then the situation changed and they grappled. This would have happened, not in June, so in late August, early September 1941. Not at the initiative of Germany, but at the initiative of the USSR. But what could not be avoided, it would be.
      Tales are the talk that Dzhugashvili was terribly afraid of the corporal. He was not afraid of him at all. With so many stockpiled weapons, he believed, he could successfully fight the whole world (a hostile environment). And the moment was very favorable, defeat the outcast (or a couple, if you count Mussolini) and capture almost all of Europe. No one would even pickle. Therefore, the Soviet Union in the spring carried out covert mobilization and the transfer of troops. Army by the fall of 1941. had to be ready, then everything would have started. But it started a little earlier. From this, the essence does not change, IT would still begin. Plus or minus a couple of months.
      PS. And the insidious actually Dzhugashvili had a plan. Pretend to be a benefactor and take everything in hand. And a good moment turned up. Sin was overlooked. However, everything turned out completely wrong, in a completely different way.
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  22. andrew42
    andrew42 April 13 2016 14: 16
    +1
    Are being taken, bastards. Russians and Germans in an alliance in the vastness of Western Europe? - Okay. And if the Germans would like such films? Especially against the backdrop of the EU wobble? - The political union of Russia and Germany, this is the nightmare of the Anglo-Saxon liquidocracy! After all, the eastern German lands are not alien to us, not only historically, but even genetically. And it would be nice if the British directors-directors-contractors remembered that in the 30s there were many sympathizers of the Reich in Britain, and even the Nazi party was the British Union led by Oswald Mosley. But they will probably be forgotten. They say there was nothing. At the Britons themselves, a stigma in the cannon about Nazism, and hey, they invent the Soviet-German occupation. They say to fools - do not wake famously while it is quiet. And then the upcoming events can go just according to this scenario, only in the new time and with new characters.
  23. Vadim42
    Vadim42 April 13 2016 14: 50
    0
    For the sake of executing Cherchel, I agree to an alternative movie. A film from the category of science fiction such as Avatar, the author of the article in vain panics.
  24. Warrior2015
    Warrior2015 April 13 2016 15: 35
    -1
    Quote: Alexey RA
    In the Russian Empire, in 1913, Germany was also the largest foreign trade partner. However, for some reason, no one writes her to Germany’s allies.
    Maybe because there weren’t any agreements on the division of spheres of influence, because wars did not wage local ones in their own interests? And Russia then freely traded with the whole world, and not just with Germany.

    Quote: Alexey RA
    Look at the cooperation of Germany and Finland in the first half of 1941. This is alliance.
    Do you seriously think that it is necessary to compare the relations of the leading industrial country in Europe and a small poor country, which almost DOES NOT have its own military industry?!? But Rey and the USSR had precisely equal military-technical and political alliance.

    Quote: andrew42
    And it would be nice if the British directors-directors-contractors remembered that in the 30 years in Britain there were many sympathizers of the Reich, and even the Nazi party was the British Union led by Oswald Mosley
    Eh, comrade Andrew 42! We would also not have to tear up the past then, because in the level of cooperation with the Nazis the USSR gave the most citizens - and much more of the USSR citizens than from the white emigration. That's why and
    Quote: andrew42
    Do not be dashing while it is quiet.


    Let's just watch the alternative and laugh at the dumb Britons. wink
    1. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA April 13 2016 15: 53
      0
      Quote: Warrior2015
      Maybe because there weren’t any agreements on the division of spheres of influence, because wars did not wage local ones in their own interests?

      Spheres of influence were divided in China and Persia. But with local wars, no luck - the Reich was late for the colonial era and received land far from areas of Russian interests.
      Quote: Warrior2015
      Do you seriously think that it is necessary to compare the relations of the leading industrial country in Europe and a small poor country, which almost DOES NOT have its own military industry?!? But Rey and the USSR had precisely equal military-technical and political alliance.

      Well then look at the collaboration neutral USA and Great Britain in 1940-1941.

      Maybe the Reich and I had a joint conference of chiefs of staff? Or a battle plan with the Reich? Or the supply of arms in commodity quantities in one direction or another? Or serial production of foreign military equipment in their factories for subsequent delivery to an ally? Or military inspectorates traveling around countries to search for locations on each other’s territory?

      If you accept your criteria, it turns out that all 30s in the allies of the USSR was Italy.
      1. Jagermeister
        Jagermeister April 13 2016 20: 06
        0
        Quote: Alexey RA



        Maybe the Reich and I had a joint conference of chiefs of staff? Or a battle plan with the Reich? Or the supply of arms in commodity quantities in one direction or another? Or serial production of foreign military equipment in their factories for subsequent delivery to an ally? Or military inspectorates traveling around countries to search for locations on each other’s territory?

        If you accept your criteria, it turns out that all 30s in the allies of the USSR was Italy.

        Firstly, before Hitler came to power, military cooperation was carried out at a high pace.
        An aircraft factory was built in Khimki. For the Germans, training centers were created about this was said and written repeatedly. The Germans assisted in the development of a number of artillery systems. The famous magpie in particular.
        With the advent of Hitler, collaboration was curtailed.
        But with the beginning !!! The second world military exchange continued with renewed vigor.
        I hope there is no need to list the latest German military equipment delivered to the USSR?
        Legends were generally composed about deliveries to Germany from the USSR. That was the level of trade.
        1. Alexey RA
          Alexey RA April 14 2016 12: 37
          0
          Quote: Jägermeister
          But with the beginning !!! The second world military exchange continued with renewed vigor.
          I hope there is no need to list the latest German military equipment delivered to the USSR?

          The purchase of single samples of military equipment for the study and subsequent implementation of successful ideas in their vehicles does not make the buyer an ally of the seller. Otherwise, the USSR in the early 30s could be considered an ally of Britain and the United States. smile

          By the way, purchases of aircraft from the USA, negotiations on ordering destroyers in the USA and the development by the American company of LC projects for the USSR - is this a sign of the union of the USA and the USSR? wink
          Quote: Jägermeister
          Legends were generally composed about deliveries to Germany from the USSR. That was the level of trade.

          That's exactly what legends are. In fact, of the Soviet supplies, the most valuable thing for the Reich was food.
      2. vvp2
        vvp2 April 13 2016 20: 15
        +1
        Quote: Alexey RA
        Or a battle plan with the Reich?

        Probably very surprised, but there was a plan. Germany began its implementation on September 1, and the USSR on September 17, 1939.
        Quote: Alexey RA
        Or the supply of arms in commodity quantities in one direction or another?

        I don’t know if the sale of the military plant is a "supply of weapons in marketable quantities." But several such factories were purchased in Germany. Incl. and a fairly well-known and technically advanced plant No. 8 in Podlipki. Without it, the USSR would not have had medium-caliber anti-aircraft guns at all. And more or less decent tank, a little later. True, this was before Hitler.
        1. Alexey RA
          Alexey RA April 14 2016 12: 40
          0
          Quote: vvp2
          I don’t know if the sale of the military plant is a "supply of weapons in marketable quantities." But several such factories were purchased in Germany. Incl. and a fairly well-known and technically advanced plant No. 8 in Podlipki. Without it, the USSR would not have had medium-caliber anti-aircraft guns at all. And more or less decent tank, a little later. True, this was before Hitler.

          That's exactly what to Hitler.
          In addition, at that time, and besides Germany, many people sold factories and helped build them. It is enough to look at the "Certificate of the INO NKTP on the attraction of foreign technical assistance to the heavy industry of the USSR" and "The list of existing agreements on foreign technical assistance for the People's Commissariat for Heavy Industry of the USSR".
          http://istmat.info/node/28856
          http://istmat.info/node/28857
          1. vvp2
            vvp2 April 14 2016 12: 58
            0
            Quote: Alexey RA
            In addition, at that time, many people sold and helped us build factories besides Germany.

            It all ended on December 14, 1939, when the USSR was expelled from the League of Nations. Formally, for Finland. In fact, for Poland. Those. The USSR was still punished for Poland, but it’s cunning. In the future, this cunning of Britain was very useful to her.
            After that date, the USSR could only "cooperate" with the Axis countries, which it did until 22.06.41.
            1. Alexey RA
              Alexey RA April 14 2016 15: 40
              0
              Quote: vvp2
              It all ended on December 14, 1939, when the USSR was expelled from the League of Nations. Formally, for Finland. In fact, for Poland. Those. The USSR was still punished for Poland, but it’s cunning. In the future, this cunning of Britain was very useful to her.
              After that date, the USSR could only "cooperate" with the Axis countries, which it did until 22.06.41.

              Hehe hehe ... nothing really ended - it just got a little harder.
              But purchases continued. For example, in the spring of 1941 the anti-aircraft armament of the Soviet KR and LK was strengthened by the Vickers quadruple anti-aircraft guns.
              And trade with the USA continued: as the well-known devol wrote in su_industria ("Trade of the USSR with the USA in 1939 - 1940 (1929 - 1940)"), in 1940:
              in addition to machine tools and machines, the USSR continued to buy cotton, rubber (it is not, however, highlighted in the table) in the USA, copper, tin, bronze and brass.

              Dunning was right ...
              But once sufficient profit is available, capital becomes bold. Provide 10 percent, and the capital agrees to any use, at 20 percent it becomes lively, at 50 percent it is positively ready to break its head, at 100 percent it violates all human laws, at 300 percent there is no crime that he would not risk, at least under pain of the gallows.
  25. Greenwood
    Greenwood April 13 2016 16: 05
    +3
    If we recall the world of animation and computer games, then there are such stories are even more common.
    For me, the climax of cynicism towards Russians is the No Russian level of Call of Duty Modern Warfare 2, although it was removed from the official Russian version of the game, the vast majority of players appreciated it.
  26. 16112014nk
    16112014nk April 13 2016 17: 15
    -1
    It is a pity that this series did not come true in 1941. In the world it would be easier to breathe now. yes
    1. Pinkie F.
      Pinkie F. April 13 2016 19: 52
      0
      Quote: 16112014nk
      It is a pity that this series did not come true in 1941.

      I'm sorry, but you probably need to give another star .... and then do a lobotomy ... Or before?
      And for a moment - what does the 1941th have to do with it?
      Quote: 16112014nk
      The world would breathe easier now.

      But, perhaps, a lobotomy is useless. You already....
      Help unless ...
      1. 16112014nk
        16112014nk April 13 2016 22: 07
        0
        [quote = Pinky F.]
        A fan of the Saxon Saxons?
        1. Alexey RA
          Alexey RA April 14 2016 15: 46
          0
          Quote: 16112014nk
          A fan of the Saxon Saxons?

          Lycodro lover ... love and would drink bavarian.

          At that time, the limes and the Yankees were still less evil than Adolf. However, they were of the same opinion - since the ardent anti-Soviet Winston "choke Bolshevism in the cradle“Churchill agreed to cooperate with Stalin.
  27. Robert Nevsky
    Robert Nevsky April 13 2016 17: 59
    +5
    Without the USSR in the world, the rehabilitation of fascism will continue ...
  28. Warrior2015
    Warrior2015 April 13 2016 18: 36
    +3
    Quote: Greenwood
    For me, the climax of cynicism towards Russians is the No Russian level of Call of Duty Modern Warfare 2, x

    I did not even know that these bastards had released such a filthy game. Well, nothing, they still get it. There in Paris and Brussels already, they will reach London.

    The Britons seem to have forgotten the good proverb "don't spit in a well where you have to drink from."
  29. Grishka cat
    Grishka cat April 13 2016 20: 46
    0
    Let filmmakers climb the AI ​​forums. There are such plots of darkness in darkness! fool There is also cooler. D ... you b ... t!
  30. Arkan
    Arkan April 13 2016 21: 16
    +1
    So bad Russian, like all other occupants, in the movies will soon become much more. And this will continue until something changes either in politics or in cinema.


    The West is chronically ill, progression on the face (through the thin wrapping paper, the snout of fascism is already clearly visible). Migrants help them.
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  32. Mikhail Matyugin
    Mikhail Matyugin April 15 2016 19: 13
    +1
    A very unusual and intriguing alternative!