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Wehrmacht and SS SS camouflage uniforms

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The entire camouflage of the Third Reich could be divided into two groups: camouflage used in the Wehrmacht and in the SS forces. At the same time, it was very easy to distinguish it, the Wehrmacht’s camouflage pattern included parallel lines — the so-called rain effect, and the rain effect was simply absent on the SS camouflage. At the same time, all camouflage drawings had “plant-tree” names according to the pattern type: Eichenlaub (oak leaves), Platanen (plane leaves), and the like.


Currently, there is a widespread misconception that primacy in the use of camouflage uniforms belongs to the SS forces. Perhaps, with regard to the specialized uniform, the priority of these troops of Nazi Germany really exists, but the first camouflage cloaks appeared in the Italian army in 1929, and the famous camouflage cape “Zeltbahn” became generally accepted in the German army from 1931 onwards, that is, before the creation of the Waffen-SS troops.

The earliest camouflage that the Germans used during World War II was Heerres-Splittermuster-31. Its appearance dates back to June 1930, when the triangular cape Dreieckszeltbahn appeared, replaced from the year 1931 in the army by the gray cape Viereckige Zeltbahn, which had a rectangular shape. Then the now famous cape “Zeltbahn-31” was born, which probably became the most massive camouflage uniform in stories. Almost all Wehrmacht soldiers, the Luftwaffe, the SS troops, the coastal artillery of the Kriegsmarine and even the policemen had capes. These capes were distinguished by the presence of a camouflage called "Heres-Splittermuster". The main characteristic of this camouflage was small vertical strokes - “Strich”, which were applied over traditional camouflage spots. At the same time, spots of different geometric shapes used on this camouflage belonged to different types of destructive camouflage, which was used during the First World War. According to experts, in practice this scheme was not particularly effective - at a distance the multi-colored spots just merged into one color.

Cloak Tent, Cape "Zeltbahn-31"


Many researchers are not inclined to attribute the Zeltbahn-31 cape to camouflage clothing, emphasizing that tents and tents were very often built from them, at worst they could be worn for protection from the weather, but not for camouflage on the ground. At the same time, the opposite point of view, according to which the capes were used as camouflage clothing, is confirmed by numerous photographs, as well as the memories of the war veterans themselves.

It is worth noting that for a long time in Germany they simply did not think about the release of a special camouflage uniform. In those years, khaki and its German counterpart - the gray-field equivalent of feldgrau (feldgrau) throughout the world was considered very practical. However, the leadership of the SS considered that this camouflage is not enough. They needed this type of camouflage, which would allow the fighters not only to dissolve against different landscapes, but would not lose their properties depending on different weather conditions and seasonal changes, for example, such as fallen yellowed foliage. As a result, the first versions of the new camouflage were tested by the “Germany” regiment in 1937, and in June, 1938 were personally approved by Himmler.

Surprisingly, for almost a decade Zeltbahn-31 capes remained the only option for Wehrmacht camouflage clothing (not Waffen SS), until in 1942, Tarnhemd jackets and Tarnheluberzug helmets began to appear in the army. On one side, jackets and covers had camouflage, which was similar to the one on Zeltbahn-31 capes, and the other side was white, the color of snow. At the same time, the appearance of camouflage in the units and formations of the Wehrmacht was initiated precisely by the spread of camouflage in the SS forces.

Grenadiers tank SS Division "Dead Head"


The camouflage jackets of the Wehrmacht and the SS troops had a very loose fit, which allowed them to be worn over standard uniforms. On the sides of the jackets, large vertical slits were made, which provided access to equipment mounted over the field uniform, as well as opening access to the pockets of the uniforms. In the lower part of the sleeves of this anorak blouse, there were sections with elastic bands or with laces, strap, and drawstrings with a cord were at the waist. The front incision could be laced from the middle of the chest to the throat, the collar on this blouse replaced the hood with cord pull. Hem often tuck. Over time, spacious pockets with flaps on buttons were added to the anorak blouse, chest slots were also decided to be covered with flaps. On the latest models - on the shoulders in front and behind, as on the sleeves - loops sewn with a ladder appeared, which were intended to fasten branches or tufts of grass in them for even greater disguise on the ground.

Spotted blouses began to appear in the SS forces back in 1938, with gradually similar clothing, as well as camouflage jackets and shirts, parts of all military branches in Germany were provided. Anorak blouses, which were worn over the head over the tunic, were originally made of cotton fabric with a slight addition of viscose. Since the neck, cuffs and waistband were tightened with the help of laces, this gave the blouse a characteristic baggy look, this only enhanced the masking properties and protected the uniform over which it was worn, from dirt and mechanical damage. Up to 1940, the camouflage pattern was applied to the fabric by hand using a stencil, this method significantly slowed production, but when it was possible to transfer production to the machine method of printing the pattern, the output increased significantly. By June 1940, part of the SS received 32 thousands of camouflage blouses, and 30 thousands more were released by September of the same year.

Army camouflage blouses were sewn from tent fabric with a “blurred” or “comminuted” pattern, with a white or beige inside. In total, the SS troops had 7 order of various types of camouflage patterns. In addition, each was made in a dark and light scale on both sides of the canvas. Most often, the drawing was a scattering of small spots with a rounded or irregular shape, with a blurred or clear outline. In general, the picture looked like a carpet of fallen leaves against a background of grass or earth. Exactly the same melkopyatnistaya fabric was on the SS cloak. After the occupation by the Germans of Italy, in the second half of the 1943, the Wehrmacht and the SS units used Italian camouflage fabric, which was distinguished by a three-color, large-mottled pattern. This camouflage could be found later on the Eastern Front, mainly in the divisions that came from the West.



In addition, the SS troops often combined with a gray-green field jacket also camouflage cotton trousers that were worn over cloth or just instead of them - they were part of a full camouflage suit with a swing jacket. The pants had a counter-valve with three buttons on the neck, the flap pockets of the pockets, slightly bent forward, which were fastened with a button, and there were long ribbons along the waist and low legs. The jacket, which was included in this set, looked more like a field jacket, but with an open collar (there were other options), and the insignia of the SS units were not sewn onto it. However, a sleeve eagle and removable shoulder straps were allowed, in the heat of a camouflage suit you could wear directly on underwear.

In addition, a special warm long jacket with a fur lining was created for the SS troops. On top of this jacket covered the fabric with stains of green-brown tones, on it was four warm outer pockets and a hood with fur. This jacket was supposed to be used in the cold season, but it was a snowless period. Especially for winter camouflage consisted of gray, white and gray-blue tones, which are made in the form of a comminuted pattern.

According to the colors, camouflage, which was used in parts of the SS, was divided into three main types: shades of green and purple-brown for the summer, dark gray and light gray for spring, brown and yellow for autumn. If we talk about the coloring itself, it was usually divided into 5 of the main types, which, one way or another, were associated with the plant world: "broadleaf", "palm", "pea", "comminuted" and "oak leaves". At the same time, as already noted above, having approached the creation of a camouflage uniform with all German thoroughness, the developers have foreseen the option of turning the clothes out, while the camouflage pattern on both sides has always been different.



Also, camouflage and caps were sewn from camouflage in Germany, and warm hats were covered with special material that was used to sew spotted jackets. At the same time, the Waffen SS soldiers had their own covers for steel helmets, which were more expensive and more qualitative than the covers of Wehrmacht soldiers. Such covers consisted of 14 basic flap parts, while ordinary military had only 5 parts. They were attached to the helmet with a special pocket, which was worn directly on the visor and three spring hooks on both sides, as well as at the back. The fabric was also double-sided and had special loops (loops) designed to fasten grass or branches. At the same time, some cases were additionally equipped with a mask that could hide the face of the sniper or the observer. Winter versions of these masks were made of wool and cotton, which protected the German soldiers from frostbite.

It is worth noting that almost the entire form of military units of the SS completely or partially copied army samples and models, and often simply was taken or purchased from Wehrmacht’s warehouses. However, this did not apply to camouflage, in the field of which Himmler's soldiers were considered to be real trendsetters.

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http://panzerkrieg.narod.ru/uniform.htm
http://ciwar.ru/germaniya-xx-vek/soldaty-waffen-ss/uniforma-vojsk-ss
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  1. Igor39
    Igor39 April 11 2016 06: 50
    +15
    Yes, in terms of equipment, the Red Army was significantly behind, although after the Khalkhin goal and the Finnish one could draw conclusions. Normal equipment in the army appeared after the Chechen companies only.
    1. Lopatov
      Lopatov April 11 2016 09: 24
      +2
      In fact, there is still no normal equipment.
      1. Mavrikiy
        Mavrikiy April 30 2016 20: 02
        0
        Quote: Spade
        In fact, there is still no normal equipment.

        Well, yes, I didn’t. But a fierce desire to bury rotten bazaars.
        Yudashkin and others in the same trench.
        If I have a sweatshirt (on cotton wool), boots (tarpaulin + bike), boots (excuse me for age) I will also remember fathers and grandfathers. Well, whoever has forgotten, it’s not a bargain, in a quiet word, I can recall more loudly with a recitative from a PC.
        "If you have warm pants, there is no guarantee that your butt won't fall off."
    2. Stas57
      Stas57 April 11 2016 10: 00
      +11
      I wore both Germans and ours
      for convenience, one garbage, the Germans felt that hell.
      I did not notice a significant difference
      1. marshes
        marshes April 11 2016 10: 10
        +9
        Quote: Stas57
        I wore both Germans and ours
        for convenience, one garbage, the Germans felt that hell.
        I did not notice a significant difference

        In the 90s, in Kazakhstan, the old GDRovskaya PSh came to Kazakhstan, so those who wore were called "fascists" laughing and the PSh was definitely lousy, they complained that it was "cold."
        Yes, and our local, three-color, was not very. The most so, the Soviet PSh, HB border guard, as there is a silver, yellow sheet. And the usual tunic with a golife. A little later, the lumps became not bad.
        1. alpamys
          alpamys April 11 2016 10: 16
          +4
          Quote: marshes
          Quote: Stas57
          I wore both Germans and ours
          for convenience, one garbage, the Germans felt that hell.
          I did not notice a significant difference

          In the 90s, in Kazakhstan, the old GDRovskaya PSh came to Kazakhstan, so those who wore were called "fascists" laughing and the PSh was definitely lousy, they complained that it was "cold."
          Yes, and our local, three-color, was not very. The most so, the Soviet PSh, HB border guard, as there is a silver, yellow sheet. And the usual tunic with a golife. A little later, the lumps became not bad.

          we had an elephant, there were glass pieces with greatcoats (92nd n), they froze in them, then they gave out "Afghan women" winter ones, for the winter itself.
          1. marshes
            marshes April 11 2016 10: 28
            +2
            Quote: alpamys
            we had an elephant, there were glass pieces with greatcoats (92nd n), they froze in them, then they gave out "Afghan women" winter ones, for the winter itself.

            Well, an Afghan, a good thing, it didn’t suit us, it was considered a screwdriver;
            There was also Khbeshka, a hike for "everyone." The color is gray-green, light. Pockets on the trousers, as it were ... not on the side, on "rivets" but dragged from someone else's dad was in the KGB, KNB. Possibly.
            1. alpamys
              alpamys April 11 2016 10: 35
              +1
              Quote: marshes
              Shurupan was considered


              what does it mean? smile
              1. Igor39
                Igor39 April 11 2016 10: 47
                +12
                laughing The border troops call the rest of the troops screws, that is, the PV emblem is a sword covered by a shield, here PV is a shield, and the remaining troops are screws on it laughing
                1. tolancop
                  tolancop April 11 2016 16: 05
                  +1
                  Not only. A standard headdress for border guards is a cap. The rest have a cap. A piece with a slot (slot). With hot districts there was a hat (panama) instead of a cap, but there were not too many people there. Well and naturally, the Airborne Forces stands apart.
              2. marshes
                marshes April 11 2016 10: 50
                +8
                Quote: alpamys
                what does it mean?

                Well, you don’t know, PV is a shield, and what about the shield, screws. smile
                1. alpamys
                  alpamys April 11 2016 12: 37
                  +3
                  Quote: marshes
                  Quote: alpamys
                  what does it mean?

                  Well, you don’t know, PV is a shield, and what about the shield, screws. smile

                  as in parallel, the screws are so screws.
                2. AID.S
                  AID.S 15 May 2017 13: 04
                  0
                  Quote: marshes
                  Well, you don’t know, PV is a shield, and what about the shield, screws.

                  Such military "chauvinism" is welcome. laughingeven in a year.
        2. Mairos
          Mairos April 11 2016 14: 30
          +3
          Is this PSh with a golife a good vole? Come on to the devil. During their service in Mongolia, almost all the officers of our brigade (including myself) wore black tank suits as field uniforms - that was the thing! Then the same khaki colors appeared, and the "Afghan" from HB. Field uniform of the post-war period - complete squalor - boots, caps in an officer's vole, duffel bags. Horrible!
          1. AlexW
            AlexW April 11 2016 17: 09
            +5
            Quote: Mairos
            During the service in Mongolia, almost all the officers of our brigade (including myself) wore black tank overalls as a field uniform - that was the thing!

            ZabVO in the 70-80s a tank suit is a thing. In summer without a jacket and trousers for "exhaust". In winter, a fur jumpsuit (super) - a jacket, trousers, three-fingered fur mittens (inside the glove), and a fur (white fur) helmet. For the jumpsuit they themselves prepared black dog boots - more comfortable than army felt boots. The authorities looked askance, grumbled, but at the exercises they themselves dressed up like that. laughing In the forty-degree frost and even with the wind in the Mandal Gobi desert, you will not really fight without fur
          2. gladcu2
            gladcu2 23 June 2016 20: 21
            0
            Mairos

            In general, coveralls in the SA were a cry of fashion. Both tank and camo.

            This is not to say that the usual 80s HB was bad. Normal. Hold on for a long time. Unkillable. For convenience, there’s nothing bad either, it can be better somewhere. Acceptable.

            But in German. A very good thing is this Y sword belt. Conveniently holds pouches. It is put on easily. And the most important thing is to crawl in it too well, even on the back. If someone is not aware of changing positions towards m by 5, sometimes it’s more convenient on the back to lose sight of the enemy.
      2. Taoist
        Taoist April 11 2016 12: 01
        +8
        Well, I also noted one interesting feature, at least in our area, I would definitely prefer to fight in an "ugly" but practical and comfortable Soviet uniform than in an unconditionally elegant but completely unsuitable for our steppes German ... And in camouflage too. The burnt-out "sand" and our "blot" merge with the terrain, while the "fieldgrau" and "oak leaves" are seen as "poplar on ivy" ...
        1. tlauicol
          tlauicol April 11 2016 14: 09
          -1
          Well, for this again, you have to retreat to the Don and Volga.
      3. puffnutiy
        puffnutiy April 11 2016 14: 43
        +3
        the Germans have "harness" in my opinion more practical.
        1. Stas57
          Stas57 April 11 2016 15: 56
          0
          Quote: puffnutiy
          the Germans have "harness" in my opinion more practical.

          I agree, the body kit is convenient, but again a soldier in the war quickly caught enemy "nishtyaks".
          And here's what is interesting - a belt with a hole on "Gott mit uns" is not uncommon for us, but our "harness" did not favor all of us.
        2. Taoist
          Taoist April 11 2016 16: 41
          0
          It is quite uncomfortable and severely restricts movement. Ours had something similar, but in general, it didn’t go to business ... The German rangers had a practical option and the combined arms with a satchel was really uncomfortable.
        3. AlexW
          AlexW April 11 2016 17: 17
          +1
          Quote: puffnutiy
          the Germans have "harness" in my opinion more practical.

          Yes, the German Y-shaped harness is much more practical than ours. I didn't understand what it was for. The PM in the holster on the right pulls the belt off, the "strap" from under the shoulder strap to the left. What was she supposed to support there? repeat So the officers went in field uniforms forever skewed-slanting, and even in stupid caps-airfields and breeches. Whether it’s a tank black overalls, no stupid belts, and PM in a sewn holster in the bosom.
          1. marshes
            marshes April 11 2016 18: 22
            +8
            Quote: AlexW
            ... I didn't understand what it was for. The PM in the holster on the right pulls off the belt, the "strap" from under the shoulder strap to the left. What was she supposed to support there?

            The funny thing is, saber.
            1. AlexW
              AlexW April 11 2016 19: 52
              +1
              Quote: marshes

              The funny thing is, saber.

              Well, with sabers we strained recourse we left, to balance the tablet fastened, but again there was a problem in the hatch, climb under the armor belayAll clung to something am
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    6. HERMES
      HERMES April 11 2016 19: 50
      +5
      "FashYsty fashYstami" but whatever one may say ... their form is purely aesthetically chic.

      In the photo, by the way, Marlon Brando


      1. AlexW
        AlexW April 11 2016 21: 27
        +1
        Quote: HERMES
        "FashYsty fashYstami" but whatever one may say ... their form is purely aesthetically chic.

        In the photo, by the way, Marlon Brando

        Nothing special - just a good tailor. The Prussian traditional form was convenient for its time. Breeches and riding boots. Harness under a saber. Stupid patch pockets. In the photo the form is "ennobled". I watched real photos of German officers in this uniform, so there is an almost standing collar of such a height that it supports the chin. You can't turn your head - but the Prusak looks arrogant and arrogant.
        1. HERMES
          HERMES April 11 2016 21: 59
          +1
          Quote: AlexW
          . In the photo the form is "refined".

          Well, still) In the photo Marlon Brando)
        2. HERMES
          HERMES April 11 2016 22: 07
          +1
          Quote: AlexW
          Nothing special - just a good tailor

          Yeah ... they had factories of "good" tailors there. They sewed for hundreds of thousands of soldiers and officers. The USSR also had good samples ... I especially like the uniform of the NKVD.
      2. alpamys
        alpamys April 12 2016 00: 20
        +1
        Quote: HERMES
        "FashYsty fashYstami" but whatever one may say ... their form is purely aesthetically chic.

        Hugo for the SS sewed a uniform, and this is the Wehrmacht.
  2. Olfred
    Olfred April 11 2016 07: 17
    +7
    Article +, thanks to the author! Article Pts. informative hi
  3. inkass_98
    inkass_98 April 11 2016 07: 25
    +6
    At my godfather in the courtyard of a private house, a German raincoat (what was left of it by that time) was used as a canopy from the sun at the beginning of the 90's. That quality was laughing .
    1. baudolino
      baudolino April 11 2016 07: 45
      +6
      And my buddy at work in the mid-90s was wearing a grandfather's American flying leather jacket from Lend-Lease supplies.
      1. marshes
        marshes April 11 2016 09: 44
        +4
        Quote: baudolino
        And my buddy at work in the mid-90s was wearing a grandfather's American flying leather jacket from Lend-Lease supplies.

        Classic jacket "Pilot" original pancake is very expensive today.
        I use it myself, a Soviet flying fur jumpsuit, jacket and pants with straps, Kazan, 1981.
        Winter boots with fur, fur boots inside, the same year. 81.
        It's been almost 35 years, I’m sure that my small sketches will get it.
        1. Mairos
          Mairos April 11 2016 14: 33
          +3
          Yes, flyers have always had a form - super! I myself bought winter creeper pants from tech helicopter pilots (a semi-jumpsuit in fact), since the usual ones in the tank winter jumpsuit were constantly slipping or they had to be pulled around the waist with all the dope, and this is extremely inconvenient
  4. Stas57
    Stas57 April 11 2016 08: 59
    +4
    oh, the grandfather of everyone beloved flektarn
    Well, celibacy in its natural environment

    by the way, one side of the raincoat-tent was covered with a dark "fragmentation" camouflage, and the other side was covered with light
  5. Pitot
    Pitot April 11 2016 09: 07
    +2
    And now I walk in the woods in a modern Bund jacket. By the way, the thing is quite comfortable - and moderately long, moderately not blown, hood. For the forest itself.
  6. alpamys
    alpamys April 11 2016 09: 19
    +1
    Currently, there is a fairly widespread misconception that the superiority in the use of camouflage uniforms belongs to the SS troops.


    back in the first world camouflage used

    in addition, tents could be fastened together in various ways.

    1. Stas57
      Stas57 April 11 2016 10: 01
      +2
      yes even that
  7. guzik007
    guzik007 April 11 2016 09: 28
    -15%
    SchA lovers and admirers of fascist symbolism and tzatsek from the excavations will attack.
    1. alpamys
      alpamys April 11 2016 09: 50
      +5
      Quote: guzik007
      SchA lovers and admirers of fascist symbolism and tzatsek from the excavations will attack.

      and what's wrong with that? I also dig through the war, and before a lot of things of that time I sold to Russia, helmets, glasses, dishes ...
      1. dmikras
        dmikras April 11 2016 18: 55
        +4
        You can dig in different ways
        Usually not only the glands are nearby
  8. bunta
    bunta April 11 2016 10: 03
    +9
    The division received meager supplies, including, inter alia, a new winter uniform. These were double-sided cotton suits with a thick flannel lining, consisting of a double-breasted top jacket and upper trousers. One side of the suits was white for use in winter conditions, and the other camouflage for other seasons. However, the first enthusiasm of the soldiers who received this warm clothing quickly faded. The thin fabric on the outside of the suits quickly torn, and the lining began to absorb moisture, after which the uniform not only became heavy, but also ceased to protect from the cold. In frosts, the wet lining even froze. The same thing happened with the new leather-felt boots. Soon, infantrymen faced another problem: the material from which the lining was made turned out to be an almost ideal habitat for lice, who hid in it from the persecution of their "owners". During the winter, the costumes were so full of lice that in the beginning of spring they were washed with them. Not only that, German shooters soon discovered that suits can only be used in the “dry” cold, and even when they did not have to move too much. The fact is that suits were worn over a field uniform, and when the soldiers sweated, the sweat could not dry quickly on thick fabric. As a result, the number of patients with colds and flu has sharply increased. It is not surprising that when the division began to retreat at the end of the cold period, its entire path was marked by hundreds of discarded winter suits. 3 I Mountain Division left such traces until the end of the war. The infantrymen, through bitter experience, were convinced that thick underwear, capes and raincoats-tents are much more reliable than such winter suits.


    Joseph Olerberg German sniper on the Eastern Front
    1. alpamys
      alpamys April 11 2016 10: 11
      +1
      Quote: bunta


      Joseph Olerberg German sniper on the Eastern Front

      It is surprising that the Germans did not prepare for the winter, although the Edelweiss constantly trained in the Alps, and there was snow and cold, the place to test the winter uniform is ideal.
      1. marshes
        marshes April 11 2016 10: 20
        +2
        Quote: alpamys
        It is surprising that the Germans did not prepare for the winter, although the Edelves constantly trained in the Alps, and there was snow and cold, the place to test the winter uniform is ideal.

        And what are the winter temperatures?
        I, as a resident of Almaty, know that in the winter the mountains are warmer than in the lowlands, the City, And temperatures are up to -25.
        It is necessary to test where there is high humidity, although at -15 it does not exist, and frosts -30.
        1. alpamys
          alpamys April 11 2016 10: 31
          +3
          Quote: marshes
          Quote: alpamys
          It is surprising that the Germans did not prepare for the winter, although the Edelves constantly trained in the Alps, and there was snow and cold, the place to test the winter uniform is ideal.

          And what are the winter temperatures?
          I, as a resident of Almaty, know that in the winter the mountains are warmer than in the lowlands, the City, And temperatures are up to -25.
          It is necessary to test where there is high humidity, although at -15 it does not exist, and frosts -30.

          The average July temperature is +14 ° C, January −15 ° C.
          1. marshes
            marshes April 11 2016 10: 40
            0
            Quote: alpamys
            The average July temperature is +14 ° C, January −15 ° C.

            Well, what are the frosts? smile
            -35 -40 must withstand, in winter at -15 in a simple shirt and on top of a fur jacket, and what is amazing, even at freezing temperatures, did not sweat. That's what "natural" means.
            And in winter I tested the jumpsuit near Semipalatinsk and Karaganda, I went to the Balkhash and Alakol for a submarine. This is clothes, it’s heavy with a habit and then you get used to it.
            1. alpamys
              alpamys April 11 2016 10: 48
              0
              Quote: marshes
              Quote: alpamys
              The average July temperature is +14 ° C, January −15 ° C.

              Well, what are the frosts? smile
              -35 -40 must withstand, in winter at -15 in a simple shirt and on top of a fur jacket, and what is amazing, even at freezing temperatures, did not sweat. That's what "natural" means.
              And in winter I tested the jumpsuit near Semipalatinsk and Karaganda, I went to the Balkhash and Alakol for a submarine. This is clothes, it’s heavy with a habit and then you get used to it.

              listen, in the Kapchagai steppes in winter overcoats also froze non-sour, although I myself can’t compare the frosts from Tselinograd with Astana and your southern ones, but overcoat with a glass of nichrome is not a winter option))) unlike winter Afghans
              1. marshes
                marshes April 11 2016 10: 53
                +1
                Quote: alpamys
                listen, we in the Kapchagai steppes in winter overcoats are also not sour

                What is Kapchegayskaya DShB?
                1. alpamys
                  alpamys April 11 2016 10: 55
                  +1
                  Quote: marshes

                  What is Kapchegayskaya DShB?

                  aha
                  1. marshes
                    marshes April 11 2016 11: 24
                    +1
                    Quote: alpamys

                    aha

                    So it seems that your overcoat was only in training, then pea jackets were given out.
                    Who was in the greatcoat all the time? Who served in Chingildy on the "circle".
                    1. alpamys
                      alpamys April 11 2016 11: 34
                      0
                      Quote: marshes
                      Quote: alpamys

                      aha

                      So it seems that your overcoat was only in training, then pea jackets were given out.
                      Who was in the greatcoat all the time? Who served in Chingildy on the "circle".

                      not in training, but by elephant, KMB is shorter.
                      1. marshes
                        marshes April 11 2016 11: 44
                        -1
                        Quote: alpamys
                        not in training, but by elephant, KMB is shorter.

                        Ah, got it.
                        Overcoat left for layoffs?
                        What is the same wiped from the machine on the right side of the back?
                        He wore a black overcoat, a Suvorov one. He wore a gray one, too, a green one, and this is the same as an overcoat. Just like jackets.
                        Now he has sewed a short coat from Soviet officer cloth, such as a pea coat like that of marimans. smile
                    2. Talgat 148
                      Talgat 148 April 11 2016 20: 05
                      0
                      You speak a circle! ... Khehe !!! ))))
        2. Sorokin
          Sorokin 6 May 2016 08: 16
          0
          From the truth you said. In Baku, in the fall, with a patrol for 25 minutes, and a cotton pea coat wet in ..... Humidity -5 Inflammation of the lungs is provided.
  9. Romanenko
    Romanenko April 11 2016 10: 29
    +6
    I tried the quality of German camouflage from the Second World War on myself - I used it a lot for fishing, hunting and various kinds of nature trips. Even comparing with our times of the 70s and 80s, the assessment will clearly be in favor of German. In the late 60s, my father worked in Germany, and there he and his comrades, by an acquaintance, got out old German camouflage for hunting trips. We have worn out a couple of suits for the whole male part of our family, which is called "to the holes." The main thing that of course catches the eye is the quality of the fabric from which the uniform is made, in addition, the jacket and trousers with water-repellent impregnation. Very competent buttons are made of matte green plastic and are attached to the carabiners through the eyelets. In addition, all buttons are hidden under the flaps. Jacket with a detachable hood, which can also be a cover for a helmet. A camouflage net is provided in the hood to shade the face. Convenient pockets in the jacket and pants, a lot of loops for inserting branches in the shoulder area. In a word, our defense industry has not done anything like this in my memory, but in vain! It could have been a blueprint ... The coloring is also very patronizing, but without shading - the "Ain Bar - Cain Bar" camouflage system was actively used already in the NNA of the GDR. Also a very good theme combined with spots like in the illustration.
    By the way, regarding the use of camouflage units of the SS. This is already from the words of my father - the Military Police, in the warehouses of which in the 60s there was this camouflage uniform, which I am talking about, they said that it was made specifically for the Waffen SS, but there was also much else for everyone else. Due to its high quality, the Waffen SS camouflage was worn by units of the GDR Volkssturm after the formation of the GDR, and at first they were armed with MP-44 and PPSh, and later AK-47 appeared.
    1. puffnutiy
      puffnutiy April 11 2016 14: 47
      +1
      Do you have a hunting photo in this camouflage?
  10. alpamys
    alpamys April 11 2016 10: 39
    +4
    does not apply to camouflage, but also interesting

    these were glasses for Germans, felt white, felt brown, leather gray / brown with different types of dimming from 30% to 75%



  11. Nonna
    Nonna April 11 2016 11: 01
    +2
    all that is connected with the Nazis fiercely minus
    1. alpamys
      alpamys April 11 2016 11: 04
      +12
      Quote: Nonna
      all that is connected with the Nazis fiercely minus

      smile Mercedes, BMW, Opel, Adidas, Hugo Boss, Siemens, etc., etc.
    2. tolancop
      tolancop April 11 2016 16: 11
      +4
      And in vain do you negate everything connected with the Nazis. Taking advantage of the enemy’s achievements is much more practical.
      1. AlexW
        AlexW April 20 2016 12: 07
        0
        Quote: tolancop
        And in vain do you negate everything connected with the Nazis. Taking advantage of the enemy’s achievements is much more practical.

        Quite right - you need to take the best even from the enemy. That is what was done - a soldier's calfskin in the image and likeness of the German one and is still in the ranks. The "Wehrmacht" canister is probably not alone in every garage. They are made not only of tin, but also of aluminum, and the shape and dimensions are the same. Kevlar helmets approach the shape of a German steel helmet. BMV motorcycles have served as a Soviet MV 750 in the SA as a Soviet MB XNUMX. And they still run in civilian life.
  12. Mikhalychch
    Mikhalychch April 11 2016 11: 40
    -9
    Our Vanka won such victories, with all the comforts that he fought. The Russian soldier was not whimsical and he used the beginning of the squad — he didn’t insulate, stole, sold and much more. In the Russo-Japanese war in the early 20th century even they bought, for the benefit of their pocket, shells of the wrong caliber for guns. Our brother steals, however.
  13. Stas57
    Stas57 April 11 2016 12: 24
    +11
    Quote: Mikhalychch
    Our Vanka won such victories, with all the comforts that they fought. The Russian soldier is not whimsical

    why didn't we have this so "comfortable"?
    cider / satchel?
    raincoat / celiban?
    boots / boots?
    mosinka / 98k?
    ss-40 / Stahlhelm M35?
    RKKA / Wehrmacht cracker?
    gas mask MO-2 with ШМ-1 / gasmaske 1941
    bowler / bowler?
    Well, what else is there?
    well share. why we in the Red Army did not have such a fighter, what a Wehrmacht fighter had, which allows him to fight "in comfort"
    1. shinobi
      shinobi April 11 2016 13: 13
      +11
      Do not pay attention, these are echoes of liberal propaganda. Everything is bad with us, everything disappeared, and so on. Where our soldier in a quilted jacket and quilted jackets laughed at -25, the German soldier froze with all the bells and whistles.
    2. alpamys
      alpamys April 11 2016 14: 56
      +4
      Quote: Stas57
      Quote: Mikhalychch
      Our Vanka won such victories, with all the comforts that they fought. The Russian soldier is not whimsical

      why didn't we have this so "comfortable"?
      cider / satchel?
      raincoat / celiban?
      boots / boots?
      mosinka / 98k?
      ss-40 / Stahlhelm M35?
      RKKA / Wehrmacht cracker?
      gas mask MO-2 with ШМ-1 / gasmaske 1941
      bowler / bowler?
      Well, what else is there?
      well share. why we in the Red Army did not have such a fighter, what a Wehrmacht fighter had, which allows him to fight "in comfort"


      he probably means Panzerschokolade, Maggi cubes and Nestle cream smile
    3. moskowit
      moskowit April 11 2016 19: 05
      +5
      My father said that they had ersatz soap made of pumice and cigarettes for soldiers filled with all sorts of rubbish, paper was soaked in nicotine, for "scus". Is there a difference between our soap and terry cloth and these "achievements" of a soldier's life?
  14. shinobi
    shinobi April 11 2016 13: 06
    +12
    Well, I don’t know, but I remember from my grandfather how German soldiers dressed our quilted jackets and quilted jackets under their lumps. Our PPSh was very respected. Sometimes he speaks of his own from strangers only by helmets and matyuk.
    1. moskowit
      moskowit April 17 2016 12: 51
      +3
      And our enemies also respected the SVT rifle very much, and even adopted it under the index ".. under the name Selbstladegewehr (literally:" self-loading rifle ") 259 (r), where this letter meant the country of production - Russia .."

      Which completely proves the height of Russian design thought. Cossack Tokarev, who graduated from the Novocherkassk Junker Cossack School in the weapons master class, was far ahead of the leading gunsmiths in Europe ...
  15. From Samara
    From Samara April 11 2016 13: 32
    0
    Canadians sew the best form ... The English Commandos noted this back in the 40s ...
  16. AlexW
    AlexW April 11 2016 17: 35
    0
    In the 70s, the GDR field uniform and equipment was popular in the GSVG. Comfortable overalls. Camouflage Barcode or Rain. Obviously, the NNA borrowed from the Wehrmacht. The officers exchanged from the Germans for the field and very comfortable, soft chrome boots with a slightly shortened bootleg. It was still allowed to wear boots somehow, but the uniform was categorically not allowed. It's a pity, for the "field" it was very convenient.
  17. Warrior2015
    Warrior2015 April 11 2016 17: 46
    +1
    Quote: alpamys
    It is surprising that the Germans did not prepare for the winter, although the Edelweiss constantly trained in the Alps, and there was snow and cold, the place to test the winter uniform is ideal.
    Because "Barbarossa" was planned to be finished before winter. Tritely did not have time. By winter 42-43. and for the following winters nothing was prepared quite well.

    There is also an opinion that a bunch of generals - "hidden defeatists", as it turned out later in 1944 after the conspiracy and assassination attempt on Hitler - worked precisely in the field of logistics and logistic support of the Wehrmacht - and they "brought the victory" closer to the Allies as best they could. wink

    Quote: alpamys
    he probably means Panzerschokolade, Maggi cubes and Nestle cream
    And there was a large assortment of various stimulants for the brain - allowing you to make long march-throws or extra-long marches without loss of strength and attention (although of course this planted the body).
    1. AlexW
      AlexW April 11 2016 20: 11
      +1
      Quote: Warrior2015
      Because "Barbarossa" was planned to be finished before winter.
      Limited resources - hence the only hope was a blitzkrieg. Since 39g, a card system has already been introduced in the Reich. The longer the war lasted, the more different ersatz were introduced. Here we must pay tribute to German science - brown coal gasoline, margarine, which we are now being intensely treated, plastics and much more.
  18. AlexW
    AlexW April 11 2016 20: 05
    +1
    Thanks to the author. The article is very interesting. He cannot leave indifferent anyone who wore a uniform.
  19. Kibl
    Kibl April 11 2016 21: 36
    +1
    Of course, the Fritz had a record, but the war wasn’t a defile for you. Of course, many saved the life, but the simple Soviet soldier won the war in a simple tunic, tarpaulin boots and footcloths! It was like that! Curse yourself like anything, like New Year’s Christmas tree, but you will win if you are weak in spirit!
  20. estixnumx
    estixnumx April 11 2016 23: 03
    0
    From German, the trophy fork spoon with the stamp RHE 39, a bowler of 1940, a knife of Hitlergen and Zeiss binoculars are still in use. all the trophy from the grandfather of the counterintegrator is left. Everything was dragged from the GDR. The cut was comfortable, but HB was very arrogant to the touch. And the GDR UTB field equipment kit was very low H-shaped cushioned belts + 2 AK pockets one grenade for 3 grenades and a gas pouch from a gas mask, and immediately threw the flask away I didn’t like it, I took a 1.5-liter Frenchman. And so yes, the Germans were at the expense of the zelban were equipped with camouflage means 100%, And they were trendsetters at that time. We only had Aneba and a white mask in a greatcoat.
  21. saygon66
    saygon66 April 11 2016 23: 35
    +4
    - This is how the "oak leaf" works, in the places where it was created ...
    1. saygon66
      saygon66 April 11 2016 23: 59
      +1
      - The Italian "body mimetico" will be worse ...
  22. Sascha
    Sascha April 11 2016 23: 57
    +1
    Quote: HERMES
    Quote: Warrior Hamilton
    And the grenadiers of the SS Panzer Division "Death's Head" look like the Walking Dead ..... There were no grenadiers in the Red Army ....


    I’m thinking everything ... purely theoretically - if the Germans would have transferred these soldiers who opposed the Red Army to the western front - to France and Italy, and if the Allies hadn’t received such powerful air support ... what the poor ground troops of the Americans would do , the British, etc.? It seems to me like a meeting of a wolf with a jackal. The Germans would tear these vaunted Anglo-American troops and drown their remains in the English Channel and the Mediterranean.


    If grandmother had testicles, then she would not be grandmother, but grandfather ...
  23. Denimax
    Denimax April 12 2016 02: 01
    +1
    We also had tseltbany (a cloth). True cape is not used. Each soldier had half of the tent, they could be combined and a tent for two was obtained. There were also aluminum tubes and pegs in the set. Which were the most lost material.)
  24. Lens
    Lens April 17 2016 19: 30
    +1
    Good, informative article. I hope the author will soon reveal the theme of army shoes.
  25. infantryman2020
    infantryman2020 April 19 2016 07: 58
    0
    Quote: Nonna
    all that is connected with the Nazis fiercely minus

    dim-witted ... it happens ...
  26. infantryman2020
    infantryman2020 April 19 2016 08: 11
    +1
    Quote: Stas57
    Quote: Mikhalychch
    Our Vanka won such victories, with all the comforts that they fought. The Russian soldier is not whimsical

    why didn't we have this so "comfortable"?
    cider / satchel?
    raincoat / celiban?
    boots / boots?
    mosinka / 98k?
    ss-40 / Stahlhelm M35?
    RKKA / Wehrmacht cracker?
    gas mask MO-2 with ШМ-1 / gasmaske 1941
    bowler / bowler?
    Well, what else is there?

    well share. why we in the Red Army did not have such a fighter, what a Wehrmacht fighter had, which allows him to fight "in comfort"


    Yes, at first glance.
    But there was no integrating element - a quasi-unloading system - developed shoulder straps with the ability to mount all of the above on a waist belt and on the back.
    This was only before the war (the classic ceremonial Red Army soldier in full gear in a steel helmet in 1936). Then the whole war was nothing. What they sell now - tarpaulin unloading straps - is not confirmed by wartime photographs.
  27. Pomeranian
    Pomeranian April 20 2016 10: 25
    0
    Very interesting, informative article. I remember from the lake in 80 they raised several sealed boxes, they thought it was gorgeous, but to the disappointment of that time (now it would be such a raise) it turned out to be a German officer uniform. What struck me was a white shirt.
  28. bravo-fab
    bravo-fab 4 May 2016 09: 39
    0
    Enough to flatter yourself, lie, make excuses, the Nazis had a more beautiful, practical, and more thought-out form, because the Germans have a cult of a warrior (up to 45), and the Soviet army was dressed as if it were simpler and cheaper, because the attitude to human life and the soldier, in the Soviet army was not the same as in Western Europe. Look at the shape of the USSR from beginning to end, a terrible wretch. Half of the comments here, about a comfortable warm uniform and overalls are nostalgic, but have you ever worn anything better than chtol in your life? Look what the shape of the British, Americans, Germans was, these cash expenditures per soldier were always higher than in the USSR (of course, in Western countries consumer goods were abundant and there was a huge selection, but in the USSR everyone went the same way, like so, what would a soldier of a western country go to G, when he wears 1 better clothes at home ?, and everything is poor in the USSR, Putin said, no need to lie, for the people in the USSR, there were few goods), compare the number of articles included in the outfit of a Soviet soldier and countries of the "enemy from the west". wretchedness. The Komsomol members will come out and say that the elastic rubbed the Germans' panties when jumping in a chilly wind, and in winter they had no form. The normal combined-arms uniform in Russia began to appear only after the war 100, when the rodents were better dressed than ours ... shameful facts, ours picked up their armor and unloads and put their own in their transport, but what was in Afghanistan? Japanese warmers, condoms, first-aid kits, American items of equipment, comfortable shoes, the SOVIET GIANT had special forces in sneakers NIKE and ADIDAS. for their own soldiers, to strain production, there is no business for designers! It got to the point that the specialists and the FSB, thank God, they have the right to choose their own crew, go around in NATO. It's good that now everything has changed dramatically in the Army, and security is being established, there is a huge market for offers ...
    PS: minus the scoops, you no longer have to defy the RF Armed Forces.
  29. geologist
    geologist 26 May 2016 17: 03
    +5
    Clever, well-educated, courageous, courageous and persistent youths, 3 Reichs in an aesthetic form were beaten by dumb, with 4 education classes, timid, weak-minded men in felt boots, short fur coats and earflaps - some of them really shot a squirrel in the eye.
    Nothing is better than boots with skis, cotton pants and short fur coats, though this applies to places where snow is waist-deep and frosty for 30. When the frost is 50 degrees, only chauffeur-style boots with fur are worn, and adidas or sneakers with newspapers are only marginal ...
  30. schweik
    schweik 11 July 2016 19: 09
    0
    Yes, here's how we came across an SS helmet - the quality of steel 70 years later, of course, was excellent!