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Borisov: I hope that “Coalition-SV” “will have a huge export potential”

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The Deputy Minister of Defense Yuri Borisov expressed the hope that after the tests and serial deliveries to the Russian army, the self-propelled howitzer "Coalition-SV" will be in high demand from foreign customers, reports RIA News.


Borisov: I hope that “Coalition-SV” “will have a huge export potential”


“This is a unique artillery installation, this is the future of artillery. Only two armies own similar products in the world. This is a competitive product, and I hope that after completing all the tests, it will have a huge export potential ",
said the deputy minister during a visit to the Uraltransmash plant.

When asked about the needs of the military department in such howitzers, Borisov replied that "at present, the share of modern weapons in the Ground Forces is about 39%, while reaching at least 70% by the end of 2020 of the year."

“I must say that the state defense order in the supply and repair of artillery weapons has grown in recent years, the demand for this is enormous. Moreover, new “Coalition” artillery mounts have appeared, which everyone could observe at the Victory Parade, ”he noted.

According to Borisov, "at the enterprises of Uralvagonzavod in Yekaterinburg, technological re-equipment is proceeding at a rapid pace, multi-axis machines are emerging, which positively affects the quality and reliability of equipment."

“I am very pleased with the trip. I believe that the Ekaterinburg enterprises of the Uralvagonzavod holding will provide us with all the products and will not disrupt the state order of the 2016 of the year, ”the deputy minister added.

Information: “The Russian 152-mm self-propelled howitzer of the 2C35 Coalition-SV brigade unit is designed to destroy tactical nuclear weapons, artillery and mortar batteries, tanks and other armored vehicles, anti-tank weapons, manpower, air defense and missile defense systems, command posts. An experimental batch of self-propelled guns was demonstrated among other models of the latest armored vehicles at the Victory Day parade on May 9 in Moscow. ”
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Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation
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  1. Dmitry Potapov
    Dmitry Potapov April 8 2016 14: 43
    +22
    So it needs to be rolled in Syria, to provide for itself, and then it can be exported.
    1. MIKHAN.
      MIKHAN. April 8 2016 14: 48
      0
      We need to install at our borders first ... And then for export! The situation is tense at the borders of Russia ...
    2. Lord of the Sith
      Lord of the Sith April 8 2016 14: 54
      +16
      Who did not see
      1. Now we are free
        Now we are free April 8 2016 15: 30
        +3
        As soon as possible, it would be put on the "Armata" chassis and launched in this form into mass production.
        1. Lopatov
          Lopatov April 8 2016 15: 35
          +1
          There will never be an ACS on the "Armata" chassis. In general, since the days of 2C1 "Carnation" we have only used special chassis as a base. If they have units and assemblies of tanks, this does not mean anything.
          1. atalef
            atalef April 9 2016 08: 46
            0
            Quote: Spade
            ACS on "Armata" chassis will never be

            And I think it will be.
            Quote: Spade
            In general, since the time of 2C1 "Carnation" we have only used special chassis as a base.

            So what ? And only on the basis of this you sentenced Armata?
            Quote: Spade
            If they have components and assemblies of tanks, then this does not mean anything

            It means that on the basis of Amata the self-propelled guns will do the same.
            yes
            1. Lopatov
              Lopatov April 9 2016 09: 29
              0
              Quote: atalef
              And I think it will be.

              What's the point?
              Healthy tower with anti-shatter armor on a tank chassis? Unless, if necessary, to increase the weight of the self-propelled guns and increase its cost.

              Quote: atalef
              It means that on the basis of Amata the self-propelled guns will do the same.

              This means that, if necessary, a new chassis will be created using the components and assemblies of "Armata"
              1. atalef
                atalef April 9 2016 09: 33
                0
                Quote: Spade
                What's the point?

                unification
                Quote: Spade
                Healthy tower with anti-shatter armor on a tank chassis?

                And what is it?
                The chassis is in the African chassis.
                Standard chassis for the entire line of armored vehicles - cost savings and fewer spare parts
                Quote: Spade
                Unless if it is necessary to increase the weight of the self-propelled guns and increase its cost.

                Why burden?
                Quote: Spade
                This means that if necessary they will create a new chassis,

                What for ? If already there.
                Grandmas fooling around.
                Quote: Spade
                using units and assemblies "Armata"

                And why create a new one using units and assemblies of an existing one - it’s probably easier to take an existing one.
                1. Lopatov
                  Lopatov April 9 2016 10: 01
                  +1
                  Quote: atalef
                  unification

                  Unification is used when it is necessary to reduce the cost, and not repeatedly make it more expensive.


                  Quote: atalef
                  And what is it?
                  The chassis is in the African chassis.
                  Standard chassis for the entire line of armored vehicles - cost savings and fewer spare parts

                  I don’t understand something ... Is this "turn on the fool"?
                  Where is the "savings" here? This is, on the contrary, a rise in price due to the need to use a heap of useless armor. And due to the need to have a bunch of crap when adjusting the turret to the chassis.

                  Well, "unification" does not mean "the same body". The bodies of the "Armata" family machines are very different from each other. Totally.

                  Quote: atalef
                  And why create a new one using units and assemblies of an existing one - it’s probably easier to take an existing one.

                  Why do "Merkava" and "Namer" have different buildings?
                  1. atalef
                    atalef April 9 2016 13: 53
                    0
                    Quote: Spade
                    Unification is used when it is necessary to reduce the cost, and not repeatedly make it more expensive.

                    here I am about what you need to reduce the cost, and you probably pay for the same 5 times - this good

                    Quote: Spade
                    I don’t understand something ... Is this "turn on the fool"?
                    Where is the "savings" here?

                    How would it be easier for you to explain when it is unified - then it saves both on the nomenclature of spare parts and on maintenance.
                    Quote: Spade
                    On the contrary, it is becoming more expensive due to the need to use heaps of useless armor.

                    Chassis and a bunch of armor - what's the connection?
                    Quote: Spade
                    Well, "unification" does not mean "the same body". The bodies of the "Armata" family machines are very different from each other. Totally.

                    belay
                    This is something new ? We are talking about
                    The Armata universal combat platform [3] is a heavy tracked platform developed by Uralvagonzavod.

                    Do you know exactly what this is about?
                    Quote: Spade
                    Why do "Merkava" and "Namer" have different buildings?

                    Namer (Hebrew נמ"ר - tiger; abbreviated from Hebrew נגמ"ש מרכבה [Nagmash Merkava] - Merkava armored personnel carrier) is a modern Israeli heavy armored personnel carrier, also classified as a heavy infantry fighting vehicle (English AIFV - armored infantry fighting vehicle - armored infantry fighting vehicle).

                    Do you understand exactly what this is about?
        2. ver_
          ver_ April 9 2016 07: 46
          +1
          ..I'm not Copenhagen in artillery, however, I am more impressed not by cannon artillery, but by jet artillery as more mobile, faster-firing, longer-range, easier to manufacture and maintain, and more adapted to the modernization of both ammunition and carrier and "frame". It can be loaded on any floating vehicle (even on a raft or pontoon) and fired without moving away .. and use ammunition of various calibers ..
          1. atalef
            atalef April 9 2016 08: 48
            0
            Quote: ver_
            I’m not Copenhagen in artillery, however, I’m more impressed not by barrel artillery, but reactive as more mobile,

            The future belongs to the Barraged ammunition.
            I think Lopatov (as an admirer of barrel artillery) will support me in this. hi
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      3. GELEZNII_KAPUT
        GELEZNII_KAPUT April 8 2016 16: 32
        +1
        Quote: Sith Lord
        Who did not see

        Yours ... !!! belay
    3. Vladimyrych
      Vladimyrych April 8 2016 15: 00
      -13%
      Why is this? Here they invent everything ... The main thing is to drive!
      1. vkl.47
        vkl.47 April 8 2016 15: 26
        +1
        In short, they want to put this gun on an assault tank. Something like a PT with a rotating turret
    4. vv3
      vv3 April 8 2016 20: 00
      -9
      Gentlemen, before reading my comment, sit down, be patient and do not judge me strictly ....
      First excerpt from Wikipedia.
      "The self-propelled howitzer 2S35" Coalition-SV "is equipped with an automated control system for the processes of gun guidance, target selection, navigation and positioning of the ACS. The gunner's and commander's workplaces are equipped with displays that display information from a unified information command system. the tactical control system (ESU TZ) allows you to receive target designation via a digital communication channel, to carry out a round-the-clock survey of the terrain both during the day and in the dark, to perform an autonomous calculation of firing installations and adjust your fire. "

      A small comment: in addition to direct-fire firing within the direct line of sight up to a distance of 5,5 km, which is even a shame to mention for such a system, the "ultra-modern" ESU TZ system allows you to implement all other possibilities. You can also use fire spotters on the battlefield .. ..
      And now an excerpt from the article by Dmitry Kandaurov, a specialist in the field of automatic control systems "ESU TK complex: desired and real", Army Bulletin, 23.11.2010

      "And in the ESU TK troops, not really working, it will blink with beautiful screens at various ostentatious exercises, pleasing the eyes of generals and political leaders who do not want to delve into the essence of the problem.

      • And unfortunate bonded commanders and staff officers at all levels will depict extras during these exercises and keep silent, and in everyday life continue to “use” the unlicensed Windows, as well as develop and print secret maps of the plans for these exercises on uncertified machines using other programs . Developed by no means in the framework of the ROC "Constellation". But there are such programs. Those that correspond to the real needs of the troops, and not the desires and "pocket" interests of the big bosses.

      • But someday a big and strong enemy will come, and we will, on the blood of our soldiers and officers, be convinced of the ineffectiveness of the "Constellation", this system will "quietly" be removed from service. And, as has already happened, no one will bear any responsibility for this. I don’t want to "croak", but we have already gone through all this. In the not so distant past ... "

      And now the conclusions: there is no need to drag the "SV Coalition" anywhere, this miracle cannot realize all its potential. There is no target designation system in nature, and except for the coordinates issued by the spotters of fire on the battlefield, or you can use it on stationary stationary objects, the coordinates of which do not change ... In Syria, it will be used for direct fire, like its younger sister "Akatsia" ... This is how the ultra-modern system turns into a weapon of fire on the battlefield of level 45 due to the lack of a modern combat information and control system. Moreover, there is a forgery when a worthless system (ESU TK), tacitly passes off as an advanced one and supposedly controls such systems as "Coalition SV" was created for show and costs 8 billion rubles per set. INTERESTING, it has already been put into service. Let's see, gentlemen.
      1. Lopatov
        Lopatov April 8 2016 22: 02
        +5
        The problem is that you don’t understand anything about artillery. The phrase issued you

        Quote: vv3
        in addition to direct fire within line of sight to a distance of 5,5 km, which is even a shame to mention for such a system


        And so you climb into some dense wilds, at the level of taxiing by brigades and armies.

        But in fact, only one bunch of the so-called lower level "KSHM of the senior battery officer - 6 self-propelled guns" Coalition "" increases combat capabilities many times over in comparison with artillery that does not have automation equipment.
        --This is an order of magnitude higher reaction rate to incoming targets, including on the march
        --This is an order of magnitude higher accuracy without time-consuming
        --This is several orders of magnitude less vulnerability to counter-battery combat


        Quote: vv3
        There is no target designation system in nature and other than the coordinates given by the spotters of fire on the battlefield or you can use it for stationary stationary objects, the coordinates of which do not change ...

        Yeah. Only spotters, which by the way is quite a lot. We will "forget" all instrumental artillery reconnaissance, "forget" the UAV, "forget" army reconnaissance. Let's even "forget" that next to every infantry commander from the company commander and above there is an artillery commander with his own KShMka, his own KNP and his own means of reconnaissance and determining the coordinates of targets.

        Quote: vv3
        . We are seeing, gentlemen.

        We learn materiel.
        1. vv3
          vv3 April 9 2016 01: 05
          -4
          As you find the target behind enemy lines at a distance of 50 km, TZ is a tactical link. Why this chatter and delirium if there are no target coordinates, how the "Coalition" will receive target coordinates from the UAV, for example, in real time. A parade of idiots in full growth. You will go as a spotter to the rear of the bearded? Carries nonsense. Where to get the coordinates of the target? Do you have any idea what information support is in modern warfare? ... A spotter with an infantry commander and again 20 million killed? ...
          1. Lopatov
            Lopatov April 9 2016 08: 37
            +2
            Quote: vv3
            How do you find the target behind enemy lines at a distance of 50km,

            Soviet AIR in the army led reconnaissance to a depth of 70 km.

            Quote: vv3
            how the "Coalition" will receive the coordinates of the target from the UAV, for example, in real time.

            Easily. UAV -> UAV control center -> PUOD -> ACS.

            Quote: vv3
            Are you going to be the spotter behind the bearded?

            Well, I walked the same way. All battery commanders walked.

            Quote: vv3
            .Where to get the coordinates of the target?

            To count. There is the level of school trigonometry.

            Quote: vv3
            Do you have any idea what information support is in a modern war?

            That is what I represent, unlike some.

            Quote: vv3
            Corrector with an infantry commander and again 20 million killed? ...

            Not a spotter, commander. Which not only gives the coordinates of the targets, but fully controls the fire
            1. atalef
              atalef April 9 2016 08: 53
              0
              Quote: Spade
              Soviet AIR in the army led reconnaissance to a depth of 70 km.

              What did you scout, and over 70 km?
              Now 70 km for any drone is not a distance at all, such UAVs will fly in and spoil all self-propelled guns,
              Quote: Spade
              Easily. UAV -> UAV control center -> PUOD -> ACS.

              It is long and not effective.
              Need UAV - sau.
              Quote: Spade
              Well, I walked the same way. All battery commanders walked.

              What is it so bearded and went?
              1. Lopatov
                Lopatov April 9 2016 09: 39
                +3
                Quote: atalef
                What did you scout, and over 70 km?

                And what is artillery doing there?
                Quote: atalef
                Now 70 km for any drone is not a distance at all, such UAVs will fly in and spoil all self-propelled guns,

                Another specialist. If the self-propelled gun shoots at 50 km, this does not mean that it is 50 km away. from the line of contact.

                Quote: atalef
                It is long and not effective.
                Need UAV - sau.

                This is not long and is much more effective than knocking out individual targets one at a time, as the "UAV-sau" option provides. This is generally an extremely stupid use case for both UAVs and self-propelled guns.

                Quote: atalef
                What is it so bearded and went?

                Все.
                1. atalef
                  atalef April 9 2016 13: 48
                  -1
                  Quote: Spade
                  And what is artillery doing there?

                  And so I say - there’s nothing, And Barazhivaniyu Ammunition - up to 500 km tongue
                  Quote: Spade
                  Another specialist. If the self-propelled gun shoots at 50 km, this does not mean that it is 50 km away. from the line of contact.

                  Well, we are talking about the maximum range, and since it can be located beyond 300 km, it’s true then you have to shoot at your
                  Quote: Spade
                  It is not long and much more effective.

                  No, any additional link is a waste of time.
                  Quote: Spade
                  This is generally an extremely stupid use case for both UAVs and self-propelled guns.

                  that is, if the UAV immediately gives the target designation of self-propelled guns - this is stupid, but if
                  Quote: Spade
                  UAV -> UAV control center -> PUOD -> ACS.

                  that is brilliant.
                  Your logic is strange. belay


                  Quote: Spade

                  Quote: atalef
                  What is it so bearded and went?
                  Все.

                  what
              2. vv3
                vv3 April 9 2016 14: 20
                +1
                I completely agree with you, as long as there is no modern combat information system, you need to try to make elements of this UAV-self-propelled gun system. To do this, use purchased UAVs and change the filling so that later, when your current level appears, use these achievements . Time does not wait. We have modern means of destruction, but we do not have a system, a modern system for their application.
            2. vv3
              vv3 April 9 2016 14: 09
              -1
              Now explain to me if you have it all, why on the border with Turkey from Syria, such smart people as you can’t close the corridor. We don’t have a single UAV that can give the coordinates of the target in real time, and if to take into account their radius and duration of the flight, you need to sit on the bearded man’s back, which was done by one of our hero. He did his duty, because there are no other ways to get the coordinates, and you draw some schemes, and stupidly apply your terms, but from this the coordinates of the target did not appear.
      2. Ratmir_Ryazan
        Ratmir_Ryazan April 8 2016 22: 03
        +1
        Are you a gunner?
        1. vv3
          vv3 April 9 2016 01: 09
          -4
          I am an aeronautical engineer, and I understand very well what information support is in modern war. Besides, I was taught to think, not shout "Urya" !!!
          1. Lopatov
            Lopatov April 9 2016 08: 40
            +1
            And to know the materiel instead of yelling "FSE was gone" were not taught?

            "Oh, I can't leave the house, the Internet was turned off, I don't know what the weather is outside the window."
            1. vv3
              vv3 April 10 2016 12: 26
              0
              I do not mind, and I consider the "Ground Coalition" an advanced modern installation. But I do not understand how to use all its capabilities, if the problem of integration into a single combat information and control system has not been resolved. Or rather, the absence of the latter as such. We have modern means of destruction, but we have not created a system for using all their capabilities. Or rather, it seems to exist, but it does not work and its capabilities are so primitive that I don’t want to talk about them. For what cons? I cited an excerpt from Wikipedia, where it is written about the work of the Coalition together with the ESU TK, and gave the expert's opinion about the inoperability of the ESU TK. Based on this, I made logical conclusions. What did you dislike? This state of affairs worries me. Aren't you? Are you alright? Am I destroying your idyll ?!
      3. ver_
        ver_ April 9 2016 08: 07
        0
        ... well, there are a lot of hunters minus - like in the political bureau on command ..
        1. His
          His April 9 2016 16: 06
          0
          now it is necessary to speak correctly as a Washington regional committee ...
    5. GSH-18
      GSH-18 April 8 2016 20: 54
      +1
      Borisov: I hope that “Coalition-SV” “will have a huge export potential”

      I really hope that it will be an exceptionally cut, export version with the letter "E"!
      "Coalition-SV" only in the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation!
  2. Basarev
    Basarev April 8 2016 14: 46
    +5
    And their troops will be from the terribly ancient Msta bullet?
    1. Flinky
      Flinky April 8 2016 14: 51
      +3
      Can't read?
      after tests and serial deliveries to the Russian army
      1. Vladimyrych
        Vladimyrych April 8 2016 15: 06
        +1
        But what about the S-400 and the SU-35S, too, the same thing was screaming, huh?
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    3. Lopatov
      Lopatov April 8 2016 15: 26
      +4
      First, the modernized Msta is practically in no way inferior. And with the right organization, it will not yield at all.
      Secondly, a bunch of shots have already been fired for Msta. For the "Coalition" it is still ahead.
      1. atalef
        atalef April 9 2016 08: 55
        0
        Quote: Spade
        First, the modernized Msta is practically in no way inferior. And with the right organization, it will not yield at all.

        It will be, because the right organization is a specific thing that is not inherent in the properties of the machine
        Quote: Spade
        Secondly, a bunch of shots have already been fired for Msta. For the "Coalition" it is still ahead.

        The coalition must be put on the chassis of Almaty, and Msta - the last century.
        1. Lopatov
          Lopatov April 9 2016 09: 40
          0
          Quote: atalef
          It will be, because the right organization is a specific thing that is not inherent in the properties of the machine

          But artillery is not a separate self-propelled guns, it is a system.

          Quote: atalef
          The coalition must be put on the chassis of Almaty, and Msta - the last century.

          Younger than Israeli Aviation
          1. atalef
            atalef April 9 2016 14: 05
            0
            Quote: Spade
            But artillery is not a separate self-propelled guns, it is a system.

            But we are talking about self-propelled guns

            Quote: Spade

            Quote: atalef
            The coalition must be put on the chassis of Almaty, and Msta - the last century.
            Younger than Israeli Aviation

            In 1989, the new 2S19 Msta-S self-propelled howitzer was adopted by the Soviet Army's artillery regiments of motorized rifle and tank divisions.

            Shovels. Is 1989 not the last century? Or is it already the 21st in an alternative universe?
    4. Ride78
      Ride78 April 8 2016 17: 29
      +3
      Well, Msta is not the oldest, especially modernized. It would not be a bad idea to deliver a coalition to where Acacia is still, and to transfer more or less normal Acacias to where towed artillery is.
  3. YarGa
    YarGa April 8 2016 14: 50
    +3
    In the Donbass, it's time to break in. For counter-battery fire.
  4. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter April 8 2016 14: 51
    +4
    Well, it’s said, first to our army, then to export. Yes, and they don’t take especially weapons that have not proved themselves in battle.
    1. vell.65
      vell.65 April 8 2016 15: 16
      +3
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      Well, it’s said, first to our army, then to export. Yes, and they don’t take especially weapons that have not proved themselves in battle.

      Su-34 was not taken too much, but now after Syria it is snapped up. hi
      1. mav1971
        mav1971 April 8 2016 15: 59
        0
        Quote: vell.65
        Quote: Mountain Shooter
        Well, it’s said, first to our army, then to export. Yes, and they don’t take especially weapons that have not proved themselves in battle.

        Su-34 was not taken too much, but now after Syria it is snapped up. hi


        Has someone already signed a contract?

        D, B!
        Again, put the cart forward the horses!
  5. yuriy55
    yuriy55 April 8 2016 14: 58
    +3
    Run it in ... run it in ... Yes, it is not necessary to run it in, it is necessary to bring it where it is necessary (where it was said above) and to make control shots ... The main thing is not that the "Coalition" will have a huge import potential, but that those whoever has it will "have" the entire import-export coalition of the most varied ranks ... what
    1. vv3
      vv3 April 9 2016 14: 37
      -1
      Where are you going to shoot? Here is a 100 km corridor, bearded ones walk there, drive cars, come back and our aerospace forces do not see anything. Well, you will put on a "Coalition SV" with a firing range of up to 70 km and even a new MLRS With a range of up to 180 km in Alepo, but where to shoot. target designation system that does not provide for the contact of our, namely our fighters with the enemy. This means that they will die. This must not be allowed. Listen to fairy tales and look at the beautiful CANNON, which can do a lot and has a great export potential to shoot with direct wiring.
  6. ydjin
    ydjin April 8 2016 14: 58
    +2
    Time to collect stones, stop scattering! And the thing is not bad, "Palladin" let him smoke on the sidelines.
  7. Izotovp
    Izotovp April 8 2016 15: 04
    -2
    The question is ungrateful, controversial, but .... maybe it’s already worth switching to NATO calibers? This will simplify the sale of our equipment abroad and will optimize production. Moreover, the first experience is already there: calibers 9 * 19, 120 mm artillery system 2a51.
    1. corporal
      corporal April 8 2016 15: 15
      +3
      Quote: Izotovp
      .can it’s already worth switching to NATO calibers?

      Do you know why we still have a rifle case with a hem? Because tuyeva is a lot in storage. The same with 152 shells.
      1. Izotovp
        Izotovp April 8 2016 15: 22
        +1
        Yes I know )))). Just as at one time there were many 7,62 * 39 and 9 * 18))). We actually accepted .338 and .308 seems to be meeting.
        And in the Caucasus, and 5,7 * 28 met))))
    2. Lopatov
      Lopatov April 8 2016 15: 32
      +2
      Quote: Izotovp
      This will simplify the sale of our equipment abroad.

      Will not simplify.
      It only seems that there is a single NATO standard. In fact, he is still very far away.

      In addition, such a transition will mean a clear step back. Do not forget, our new modules have microwave ignition. In fact, this is the first step towards electrothermochemical tools. Let's just say the first generation. NATO does not have this, they still use capsule sleeves.
      1. Izotovp
        Izotovp April 8 2016 15: 53
        0
        Maybe it is not in everything, but in most cases, and in this particular-155 mm, there is.
        And our engineers will not be able to make these modules in another caliber? I think that without much work.
        1. Lopatov
          Lopatov April 8 2016 16: 04
          0
          Quote: Izotovp
          And our engineers will not be able to make these modules in another caliber? I think that without much work.

          Of course they can. But why? NATO guns cannot use such shots, our guns cannot shoot NATO ...
          1. Izotovp
            Izotovp April 8 2016 16: 23
            0
            Strange logic ... in some calibers we use the same ones, some cannot
    3. Izotovp
      Izotovp April 8 2016 23: 26
      0
      I said that the question is ungrateful and controversial. ))))
      Here are just a little argument (((
    4. ver_
      ver_ April 9 2016 07: 57
      0
      ... to see this nature in a coffin in white slippers, well, very hots ..
  8. Dezinto
    Dezinto April 8 2016 15: 13
    +5
    They only think that they’d like to sell somewhere!

    No, of course, everything is clear. We are leaders in the sale of military equipment. The economy, all the garbage, the market, competition, sales are growing. Very glad. )

    But only trust in these schemes - there is no voooot at all!

    Hindus are submarines and the latest aircraft. Arabs - BMP. Americans - helicopters and engines. The Chinese are strikingly similar to Russian fifth-generation aircraft under construction.

    Can I leave something a secret for the Russian army?
  9. Aleksey_K
    Aleksey_K April 8 2016 15: 27
    0
    The characteristics of "Coalition-SV" are simply amazing. Msta-S - resting.
    1. Manul
      Manul April 9 2016 01: 44
      +1
      Quote: Алексей_К
      The characteristics of "Coalition-SV" are simply amazing. Msta-S - resting.

      For me, it's just that hard PR is going on for this Coalition. Business and nothing personal. If they want to replace the complex "Bereg" with the concept of a freaking Coalition. And this is a whole scientific center, a factory, engineers, hard workers who have devoted their lives to the creation of the "Coast".
      You must understand that I’m against a new excellent self-propelled gun. But when articles appear that self-propelled guns will cover the shore, then I’m angry. It’s unique!
      1. Lopatov
        Lopatov April 9 2016 09: 19
        0
        Quote: Manul
        And this is a whole scientific center, a plant, engineers, hard workers who have devoted their lives to the creation of the "Coast".

        They are all retired ...

        Quote: Manul
        You understand, I’m against a new excellent self-propelled gun. But when articles appear that self-propelled guns will cover the shore, then anger takes me.

        Why? Do you think UBO needs to limit the power of ammunition on target?
        Yet 152 is clearly more powerful than 130.
  10. engineer74
    engineer74 April 8 2016 15: 28
    0
    Looking at modern military conflicts, I would restore the production of the D-30, only for export and "humanitarian" aid, of course ... hi
    IMHO
    1. Izotovp
      Izotovp April 8 2016 15: 31
      +1
      Three-line artillery !!! Still working with a bang)))
  11. nazar_0753
    nazar_0753 April 8 2016 16: 10
    +3
    What touches me every time is the hope of selling more weapons, which so far has not even really become a series. And before they hoped that the new technology would quickly saturate the troops ...
  12. 111.
    111. April 8 2016 16: 18
    +3
    I can’t wait for the armature to go to bed at the training ground to ride there on various obstacles like the t90 in this video
    1. 111.
      111. April 8 2016 16: 22
      0
      and even better test drive over rough terrain in different parts of our country and at different times of the year
      1. 111.
        111. April 8 2016 16: 25
        +2
        like here ... it would be interesting
        1. 111.
          111. April 8 2016 16: 28
          +2
          here is another interesting video
      2. ver_
        ver_ April 9 2016 08: 04
        +1
        ..ag and through the swamps like a frog ..
    2. BULLIT
      BULLIT April 8 2016 17: 32
      0
      Yeah! Heavy and clumsy! Damn, how does the T-80 move, it's just shine! And this is quiet horror! And the wooden mechwater trip !!!
      1. 111.
        111. April 8 2016 19: 08
        0
        yeah)) centurion compared to the eighties like a cart against a Mercedes))
  13. Alex777
    Alex777 April 8 2016 16: 25
    +1
    Quote: Now we are free
    As soon as possible, it would be put on the "Armata" chassis and launched in this form into mass production.


    And do not sell to anyone until we make ourselves 5000 ...
    1. Ride78
      Ride78 April 8 2016 17: 32
      +2
      Which 5000? This mriy))) Let at least 800 do and it will be cool.
      1. ver_
        ver_ April 9 2016 08: 12
        0
        ... to every conscript from the "Coalition" ..
  14. sodick
    sodick April 8 2016 16: 32
    +1
    As far as I know, there is still no ammunition for the coalition
  15. mvg
    mvg April 8 2016 16: 35
    +1
    Quote: vell.65
    Su-34s weren’t taken too much, but now after Syria it’s hot

    Where is he "snapped up"? To Algeria disguised as a Su-32? So this contract is 10 years old at lunchtime ..
  16. Ajent cho
    Ajent cho April 8 2016 17: 21
    0
    Borisov: I hope that “Coalition-SV” “will have a huge export potential”
    The impression is that the technique is done only to sell. Dear Mr. Borisov! Do you have any interest in the country's security?
  17. kmv.km
    kmv.km April 8 2016 20: 51
    +3
    VERY GOOD (WONDERFUL) if the System will be exported !!!

    The backlog in the export of SERIOUS artillery systems was obvious (OBVIOUS) !!! They took a "German", they took a "Yuarovtsa", they took a "paddling pool", they took a "pederast-Scandinavia" ...

    But they didn’t take OUR !!!

    If the declared characteristics of the COALITION are correct, then although I do not like Rogozin's cheers-patriotic phrases about "hot cakes and trampolines", then IN THIS SITUATION, EVERYTHING IS CORRECT - MANDATED THESE SPGS TO BE USED IN DEMAND, AS HOT PIES !!!

    Another HUGE plus for Russia - Foreign buyers are not Fools, they will say "Pie - SAU COALITION - Good (Good), WE GIVE MONEY, BUT GIVE Us a variety of fillings for Pie - AMMUNITION "!!!
    And since "effective managers" LOVE MONEY, then,HOPE, "gears" will spin in the production of SERIOUS MODERN ammunition !!!

    And to the "skeptics" I will ask one simple non-professional question (I will answer myself from my modest "bell tower") - At what time level would our TANK BUILDING and AIRCRAFT BUILDING be without Indian contracts for T-90 and Su - 30 ???

    FOR MINIMUM AT LEAST SEVEN-TEN FROM BACK from the level of 2016 !!!

    I HOPE this export will return "three times Hurray" for Our Army !!!