Tests of the Belarusian "Caiman" (video)

A video appeared in the network, depicting the tests of the radically modernized Soviet reconnaissance and sentry vehicle (BRDM-2), called by the Belarusian designers “mobile armored vehicle (MBTS)“ Caiman ”,” the blog reports bmpd.

Prototype of the modernization of the BRDM-2 in the "mobile armored vehicle (MBTS)" Cayman "

The machine was developed in 2015 g at the Belarusian enterprise "140-th Repair Plant" (Borisov).

“The housing BRDM-2 has undergone a major rework with the installation of landing (side) doors. Independent torsion suspension, bridges and wheel gearboxes from BTR-60, diesel engine D-245 produced by Minsk Motor Plant OJSC with electronic fuel supply control system and a five-speed reinforced manual gearbox were installed, ”the author writes.

According to the blogger, “the total combat mass of the prototype MBTS Cayman is about 7 t, capacity is 6 people, speed on the highway is 110 km / h, power reserve is up to 1000 km”.

It is noted that the machine “is able to overcome water obstacles afloat, for which specialists developed a new engine with two propellers on the sides from the ground, driven by a power take-off box”.

Instead of a tower, a rotary shoulder strap for AGS and PKS or another module is installed on the roof of the armored vehicle, depending on customer requirements.

Comments

[Spartanez300]

Not such a "crocodile" turned out.

[Andrey Yuryevich]

if our module "Baikal" is adjusted, it will turn out to be a cool machine, with decent firepower. This would not hurt us in the Airborne Forces.

[Darkmor]

Is there any sense in this car today?
BRDM was created in the past era, for specific tasks. These tasks included a massive conflict throughout the European theater of operations with the participation of armored divisions that needed mobile reconnaissance units.
Then there were no drones, tracking satellites, AWACS aircraft, even aircraft radars were not mandatory.

Now EVERYTHING that this machine weighing 7 tons can give will make a quadrocopter weighing half a kilo.
I'm not saying that such a machine is not needed in principle - but remaking an old BRDM is like trying to convert a wicked musket to the conditions of modern urban combat.

[iliya87]

Your reasoning, at the kindergarten level. Just think about why the army still uses wires for communication when there are satellites.

[Lopatov]

Quote: Darkmor

Now EVERYTHING that this machine weighing 7 tons can give a quadrocopter

That is the whole ficus-picus that will not do. And there is still no replacement for the BRDM-2. Unless, of course, you try to shove a non-floating "Tiger"

[Forest]

Nowhere else can UAVs replace direct reconnaissance. A person can give an assessment in the plane of the earth’s surface - with a UAV it’s difficult to understand the terrain, which bushes will interfere with the shelling, which buildings will give good fire control over the enemy.

[My doctor]

the arrow on the roof is easy to neutralize, the side door appeared due to retractable wheels, if by any malfunction the side door is not tightly closed, it will most likely lose buoyancy. In general, it is very similar to a homemade garage which is not uncommon to find among craftsmen. In general, MBTS was made from BRDM-2, and that’s it.

[Thrall]

Normally in the Polesie swamps it will catch Bandera when they will run away from Ukraine.

PS Tests, by the way, were carried out at the place where Napoleon crossed the river. Berezina ..

[cniza]

Quote: Spartanez300

Not such a "crocodile" turned out.

Cayman is somehow not quite for Belarusians, it’s better corny - ZUBR, but this is their decision.

[lelikas]

Quote: cniza

Cayman is somehow not quite for Belarusians, it’s better corny - ZUBR.

After the Belarusian trout and kiwi, do you not believe in caimans?

[Andrey Yuryevich]

Quote: cniza

Quote: Spartanez300

Not such a "crocodile" turned out.

Cayman is somehow not quite for Belarusians, it’s better corny - ZUBR, but this is their decision.

"bison" carried "ballistics" ...

[avt]

Quote: Spartanez300

Not such a "crocodile" turned out.

Well, an apparently nice version of the BRDM 2. The question is different, the tower was removed by a shooter sticking out like a poplar on Plyushchikha Maybe it was worth the remote module? Or not to remove the tower at all. Well, again, did they raise the level of protection, or did they leave the Soviet armor as before? Of the advantages so far I see only that, unlike the "Tiger", this option is floating. Everything under the armor is covered in darkness.

[Altona]

Quote: avt

Well, again, did they raise the level of protection, or did they leave the Soviet armor as before? Of the advantages so far I see only that, unlike the "Tiger", this option is floating. Everything under the armor is covered in darkness.

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In general, judging by the list of components, they came up with the production as the mechanics of the rural MTS-here and the old gearboxes and the old body with alterations, attachments from the power box-water mover. And outwardly it seems that the machine can be quickly adapted for rural or similar needs. In general, a full-fledged tractor and all-terrain vehicle. The bottom has raised doubts, mine action, where is the divider, or punt we will meet the blast wave, the whole area?

[avt]

Quote: Altona

. In general, a full-fledged tractor and all-terrain vehicle.

BTR for 6 people, but not BRDM for sure. And the fact that the old touched ..... well, there is nothing terrible and criminal, well, a budget option. The question is, have they improved the defense for the landing? There is a place for reconnaissance equipment, well, is there regular provision for something in the spirit of the present?

[Altona]

Quote: avt

BTR for 6 people, but not BRDM for sure. And the fact that the old touched ..... well, there is nothing terrible and criminal, well, a budget option. The question is, have they improved the defense for the landing? There is a place for reconnaissance equipment, well, is there regular provision for something in the spirit of the present?

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I didn't write "bad" or "good". I described the approach to business. I myself worked at an auto repair plant, where they made new products and repaired old ones. I know perfectly well how the technique is created. And how a completely new one is created and how a pseudo-new one is compiled from old parts. For example, "remanufactured axles", where the "old" hub or hub-drum group is used. Or "small-leaf" springs for mini-equipment, when three upper leaves are left from the mother tractor spring. Or an "innovative" semi-trailer, when they take an old frame and hang a new suspension, and then write a new title to it. Yes, I can give you a hundred examples.

[sniper]

why experts from scratch developed a new engine with two propellers on the sides driven by a power take-off. ”

And as always, not without a blooper ... With enviable constancy, the ENGINE is called the engine .... Pichalka ...

[Andrey Yuryevich]

Quote: sniper

why experts from scratch developed a new engine with two propellers on the sides driven by a power take-off. ”

And as always, not without a blooper ... With enviable constancy, the ENGINE is called the engine .... Pichalka ...

"journalists sir ..." Nikolay ...

[shark913]

Until the first anti-personnel mine, one wheel will be destroyed and that's it!

[Taygerus]

new is well forgotten old, in this case the old man’s resuscitation benefited, normal BRDM came out

[Rock_n_roll]

Go for vodka)

[sq]

For vodka - this is in Minsk at BTR-80 at night from Uruchya to Minsk-1 airport in the center of the avenue. It was so.

[Koronik]

A good device, solid, though the suspension seems to me rather weak (the buildup is large in the pits), as well as a decent car with a good powerful engine and floating. Well done!

[Zaurbek]

The third axis asks ... and the module on the roof.

[Sorokin]

The impression is not bad. But it seemed or not? Poorly managed on the water, blows with the current, but it does not work to steer. Maybe of course it depends on the driver.

[Shuttle]

At first I wanted to reply with a quote from The 13th Warrior:
- Give the Arab a sword, he will make a knife out of it!

But then another thought came. This is no longer BRDM, it is a completely different class of technology.

Radically modernized?
Not from a good life, the guys made an almost unarmed, but high-speed armored car from a well-armed combat vehicle with cross-country ability of an all-terrain vehicle. When this was needed in Russia, it was simply designed and made. Belarusians do not have enough for this project potential. On the other hand, there is a certain positive nuance. Let's see whose armored car is more practical, reliable, more powerful. Healthy competition is always good.

[Lopatov]

Quote: Shuttle

This is no longer BRDM

What is it?

Quote: Shuttle

from a well-armed combat vehicle with a cross-country vehicle

The phrase is not about BRDM-2.

About him it is necessary like this: a capricious car with poor off-road patency, a tendency to capsize, relatively weak weapons at the level of armored personnel carriers (among other things, designed only to bring infantry to the battlefield) and also ensure firing only from stops ...

[Shuttle]

Quote: Spade

What is it?

Armored car.

Quote: Spade

Quote: Shuttle

This is no longer BRDM

What is it?

Quote: Shuttle

from a well-armed combat vehicle with a cross-country vehicle

The phrase is not about BRDM-2.

About him it is necessary like this: a capricious car with poor off-road patency, a tendency to capsize, relatively weak weapons at the level of armored personnel carriers (among other things, designed only to bring infantry to the battlefield) and also ensure firing only from stops ...

About the rollover - I'm not in the know.
As for the bad cross - well, as it were, a contentious issue.
As for the poorly armed - is the PKT + KPVT poorly armed ?! Well, you know, my friend! In my opinion, some are too many kyushait!

[Lopatov]

Quote: Shuttle

Armored car.

Well it is clear. Following its ancestor, the BRDM-2 has also been assigned to armored vehicles for a long time.
So what is it if not BRDM?

Quote: Shuttle

About the rollover - I'm not in the know.

Lucky.

Quote: Shuttle

As for the bad cross - well, as it were, a contentious issue.

Absolutely not controversial. In fact, he has the worst passability of all armored BM during the collapse of the USSR. Even the BTR-60 is better.

Quote: Shuttle

As for the poorly armed - is the PKT + KPVT poorly armed ?!

Конечно.

[Shuttle]

Quote: Spade

Quote: Shuttle

Armored car.

Well it is clear. Following its ancestor, the BRDM-2 has also been assigned to armored vehicles for a long time.

Who is assigned? Amer?

Quote: Spade

Lucky.

Pruflink about the tendency to capsize, please. Well, or some other justification.

Quote: Spade

Absolutely not controversial. In fact, he has the worst passability of all armored BM during the collapse of the USSR. Even the BTR-60 is better.

Well, pruflink, please.
Why did you compare 4x4 with 8x8? Maybe even with tracked vehicles, or maybe even with a helicopter?

Quote: Spade

Quote: Shuttle

As for the poorly armed - is the PKT + KPVT poorly armed ?!

Конечно.

Are you talking about a machine gun Vladimirov? !!
Name the more powerful and the machine gun.

[lopvlad]

Another lesson in "cutting and sewing" the old Soviet BRDM corps, but now performed by the Belarusians.

[Navuxonastupil]

It is somewhat reminiscent of the tuning of the "dozen" and the Prior, produced by Caucasian krasuchik in a sheep shed! This is all from poverty, gentlemen!

[Siberia 9444]

Cruising range is good 1000 km. Remaking is not bad, cheap and cheerful.

[Lopatov]

Damn, guys, when will you start not only to read the name before commenting?

Instead of a tower on the roof of the armored car mounted swivel shoulder straps under the AGS and PKS or another module, according to customer requirements.

[31rus2]

Dear, as Russian "junk", so almost technical progress, like someone else at once "handicraftsman", but just rejoice for the brothers Belarus, do not sit on the priest exactly, but they supply us a lot, alteration is alteration and the approach should be it is from this point of view, with which I agree, because it is the Spiritual Department of Management, the rest requires more accurate data on performance characteristics

[lopvlad]

Quote: 31rus2

like Russian "old stuff", so almost technical progress, like someone else at once "handicraft"

the whole trick is that in Russia there is a production of old types of equipment, but in Belarus and Ukraine there is no.
Do you understand the difference between a car manufactured at the factory with observance of technology and artisanal assembly in a garage from old rubbish?

[Romanenko]

The sub-skating rinks seem to have been removed in favor of the mine bottom, I wonder how the Old BRDM will affect the patency, in which case it lowered the skating rinks and how it crawled on the tracks.
And so a nice crocodile turned out and the side doors are still more convenient than hatches, well done Belarusians, thoughtfully approached the car.

[bamsik]

As I understand it, the niche of this device is to jump somewhere, look and quickly flush if necessary. the fight against tanks (or their replacement on the battlefield), the fight against helicopters or AUGs, mine clearance and the replacement of collection vehicles, the opposition of RPGs are not among the strengths of the armored car.

[Stabilization]

Well ... at least it doesn't look bad).

[alpamys]

like Fennec

[From Tver]

Frisky, such a crocodile.

[R-22]

We are very much lacking modern engines of various power ranges, we are very lagging behind in engine building, technology, and alas in machine tools, but the Belarusians are great fellows - I respect the new diesel engine.

[plow]

If the BRDM-2 is bad and does not meet the current needs, why not make the BRDM-3 or the BRDM-3M, etc. Instead, "Vodnik", "Tiger", "Lynx", "Cayman" appears - a whole zoo, but there is no truly passable, floating, well-protected, well-armed vehicle yet. Apparently the task was not set correctly. Wouldn't such a machine be useful to the scouts. Who would need a controlled module with KPVT or Kord in a pair with an AGS. Sometimes you have to take your legs under heavy fire and break out of the encirclement with a fight. Yes, it would look like a mini APC. And what's wrong with that? Considering how many "friends" Russia has, each piece of equipment should surpass them 2-3 times in versatility, capabilities, and combat power. They are trying to replace 12,7 mm machine guns with 30 mm cannons, while we have 57 mm, 120 mm on their tanks, and 152 mm on our Armata. From them "Apache" takes 700 kg, from us "Alligator" 2 tons up to 2800 kg.
And do not be shy to be head and shoulders stronger in technology or striking power. Because Russia always won at the expense of a handful of soldiers who were opposed by the huge enemy forces, while our main ones took the most advantageous positions. Be it Bayazet fortress, Sevastopol 2 times, Brest fortress, Pavlov’s house, 9th company, Pskov paratroopers, Nikolai Sirotinin, who stopped the tank regiment and many other unknown heroes without an account. A Russian soldier needs the best weapons to protect himself from adversary. Because his cause is right, and the wrong can not be fought, they must be broken by irresistible force.

[gur4enk]

I agree with you (except for KPVT, who will understand the shot). The task of fighting tanks, infantry fighting vehicles or an attack in the line with the infantry was clearly not set by the developers, but the fast delivery of small units looks clearly more preferable on this vehicle than on an "armored" awning truck or UAZ, etc., especially since in Belarus has a well-developed road network (as well as in Western Europe). I would also like to say about the reuse of Soviet design developments. In the Republic of Belarus, as in many post-Soviet republics, there are many armored vehicles left, so is it really not better to use them for such purposes than to cut them into metal and sell to China.

[zadorin1974]

I’m not going to discuss weapons, I’ll walk around the car. First, with visibility, the windshield is narrow, the driver’s left pillar almost covers the visibility and there’s a trick on the side of the wipers, the driver’s mechanical drive is half blind. For convenience, you have to pay for patency for comfort landing landings, when moving tubercles, ditches, etc., will land on a broad, wide belly, well, at least the winch has not been removed .Changed the engine for 245-awl, as they say, sewn for soap. With this aggregator, I got trash on gobies and murziks, as well as MTZ-one-time crap. By the way, you may have noticed that the rear overhang of the machine increased, taking, in general, not a steep lift, it starts scratch the back corner. And it’s fluent that caught my eye. If you dig, you can dig more serious plumes. But only he who doesn’t do anything makes no mistakes!

[Ros 56]

Well, to be honest, nothing was left from the BRDM, if only the distance between the axles. Pay attention to how it climbs the slope at least 45 degrees. What a wide track, the stability is excellent. It’s good to put the module complex on top with an automatic gun and some anti-tank rounds of 5-10 and the scout will be at least somewhere.