Klimkin is looking for “new levers of pressure on Russia” in Washington, and Russia is again lowering the price of gas for Ukraine

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Ukrainian Foreign Minister Pavel Klimkin announced that Ukraine "will try to find additional levers of pressure on Russia in Washington." At the same time, Klimkin added that the main goal of Kiev is “to make Russia work on the Ukrainian logic under the Minsk agreements”. The fact that such a "Ukrainian logic", Klimkin explained in his subsequent statement. His leads news agency TASS:

Either we will force Russia to work on our Minsk logic, on our common logic with our partners - Germans, French, American friends - and this is de-escalation and progress towards free and fair elections, or we must find ways to put pressure on Russia is different: not only through sanctions, but also through other options of political pressure.


Klimkin is looking for “new levers of pressure on Russia” in Washington, and Russia is again lowering the price of gas for Ukraine


But that is “free and fair elections,” Klimkin did not say. It remains only to guess: either this is the third round with only two constitutional ones, or it is an election against the background of drenching candidates with greens and sitting in trash cans after a bloody coup d’état.

Against this background, Russian logic is becoming less and less understandable. While Kiev officials are looking for "leverage" on Russia in the United States, the Ministry of Energy announces another reduction in gas prices for "Square". Russian Energy Minister Alexander Novak in an interview with TASS reported that the price of 1 thousand cubic meters of gas for Ukraine will be less than 180 dollars. And on the eve of the press service of the NJSC "Naftogaz Ukraine" announced that since April 1 will not buy gas from Russia.
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  1. +6
    April 1 2016 16: 35
    "Ukraine" will try in Washington to find additional levers of pressure on Russia. "

    That's all "Ukrainian logic". Yes Master, help!

    "Against this background, the Russian logic is becoming less and less clear. While the Kiev officials are looking for" leverage "on Russia in the United States, the Ministry of Energy announces another cut in gas prices for the" Square "."

    But our logic is simple: summer is coming, the time of the traditional decline in energy demand, and in Ukraine especially, industry in a coma, housing and communal services is close to that, they need less and less gas, and we need sales.
    1. +110
      April 1 2016 16: 36
      It is unclear how long we will ukrobanderam reduce the price of gas. I really want to hear a clear explanation of such indulgence. They are "aggressors" to us and we give them a discount for that? Unclear.
      1. +46
        April 1 2016 16: 42
        On the contrary, they would increase it. Those who call us enemies and aggressors - no discounts. And those who sell our gas at Ukram would have been determined the quota needed to support the state, and the rest would be more expensive. I would look at ukroysterike!
        1. +6
          April 1 2016 16: 53
          Or we will force Russia to work on our logic in Minsk,



          Ukrainians in their repertoire, first sign the document, and then turn everything around and say that we understand only that way ... soon not only your partners will send you, but the people of Ukraine will make a logical conclusion.
          1. 0
            April 1 2016 23: 55
            Portraits have already been sent, it remains to the people.
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        3. +61
          April 1 2016 17: 31
          Come on, now, with gas prices, we will refund all Ukrainian discounts. They threw us raised, that's such patriotism.
          1. +2
            April 2 2016 02: 55
            Yeah! Banks are sent to Russian collectors, and tens of billions are poured into banks from the state into the country. participation. What a patriotism! In our Constitution, nothing is written about patriotism! Only the market!
        4. +3
          April 1 2016 18: 28
          this moron Krymkin face in the dermo.
          1. +9
            April 1 2016 20: 27
            this moron Krymkin face in the dermo. ,,
            I agree about the former Russian, but it would not hurt to poke ours too.
          2. +1
            April 2 2016 00: 02
            Do not scold Krymkin, he himself does not know which way he should run. They were raised to the ministers, and he was delighted. And now it’s swimming, like a drowning substance between two fires.
        5. +10
          April 1 2016 18: 34
          Here, moreover, to introduce a dependency for each attack in our direction, to increase by a percentage, they might think.
          And then I had a neighbor, a kind of liberated type, while I politely explained to him that it was not good to make noise, if people were resting, he did not push. And somehow I forgot what I need to politely and just with all the dope I gave him between his ears, somehow at once everything became clear.
          So in this case.
          1. +3
            April 1 2016 19: 21
            Quote: sir_obs
            So in this case.



            Rude, but intelligible ... But here we have celestials - the most intelligent people ...
            1. 0
              April 2 2016 08: 19
              Quote: weksha50
              But we have celestials - the most intelligent people ...


              Do you really think so? Apart from the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and the Ministry of Defense, there is not a single decent person there; they would have resigned long ago because of their "exploits."
        6. +32
          April 1 2016 19: 20
          Quote: neo.
          And for those who sell our gas at Ukram, they would determine the quota necessary to ensure the state,


          Unfortunately, gas is not ours (in that sense, as you and I are used to implying, that is, many of us).

          Gazprom legally owns a monopoly on gas production and export.
          A controlling stake in Gazprom (50% + 1 share) is in the hands of the state (represented by three companies) ...

          It follows that the state has already decided on quotas without asking any of us and reporting to them ...

          We, my friend, are now wild capitalism ... Not even wild, but wildest ...
          The immediate profit for Gazprom (and the Government, as a participant represented by the Federal Property Management Agency), is much more important than state interests ...

          They are the same Klimkin (and in his person - Ukraine) spits in the face, and they - at least henna ...

          This is a shame for US and you ... We are ready to eat sauerkraut without any hamon, but to live proudly and not let us wipe our feet about ourselves ... But THEM, "the servants of the sovereign" - don't care ...
        7. +1
          April 1 2016 22: 06
          The authorities have a responsibility to you. The state must overcome this current turmoil and not fall into the Maidan. There is a product that needs to be sold so that you are not shaken to overthrow the government, therefore the state is obliged to sell gas, even at a discount, despite their insults (horses understand this). Emotions of this kind are observed in hysterical, unstable individuals. There is work, there is responsibility, there is hysterical blah - blah. IMHO.
        8. +3
          April 1 2016 22: 36
          and Russia should not fulfill the agreement between Britain and Argentina? Klimkin tell me what other effective sanctions you can come up with. . . or you just looming on TV American Schaub you are not forgotten.
      2. +24
        April 1 2016 16: 45
        "Klimkin is looking for" new levers of pressure on Russia "in Washington, and Russia again reduces the price of gas for Ukraine"
        That's the work for SMERSH! Just an article was. Well, what is not the task.
        1. +8
          April 1 2016 16: 52
          And who to wet? The one who is looking, or the one who reduces?
          1. +1
            April 1 2016 17: 09
            Kos_kalinki9 (6) RU Today, 16:52 PM ↑
            And who to wet? The one who is looking, or the one who reduces?
            What do you think? Moreover, you offered to wet. Well and? What do you think?
            1. +1
              April 1 2016 17: 15
              Observer2014 (5)
              And what do you think

              Tormenting this question, oh how tormenting.
              1. +4
                April 1 2016 17: 25
                Kos_kalinki9
                "This question torments, oh, how it torments."
                That's it! But you need to wet it! For I will not save already.
                1. 0
                  April 1 2016 17: 42
                  2014 Watcher
                  But it is necessary to wet! For I will not save already.

                  And the hand reaches for PMU ...... am
                2. +2
                  April 1 2016 20: 34
                  Dear, you should be careful with your word, the deputy of the Kursk Duma, Olga Li, can be prosecuted for speaking out on the Internet against prosecutors and judges, a very interesting interpretation of "the class belonging to power" is now soothing too nimble
              2. +6
                April 1 2016 17: 32
                Do not suffer. Water both of them.
          2. +4
            April 1 2016 17: 16
            And who to wet? Both of them.
          3. +1
            April 1 2016 19: 03
            Water both!
          4. +5
            April 1 2016 19: 23
            Quote: Kos_kalinki9
            And who to wet? The one who is looking, or the one who reduces?


            As there in Dumas in "Queen Margot" on St. Bartholomew's Night, during the massacre of the Huguenots:

            _ "Where are the others ?"...
            - "The rest ends the rest" ...

            ALL, in short, and those who are looking for leverage, and those who are waving under these levers ...
      3. +1
        April 1 2016 16: 46
        And what is not clear? Remember the words of VVP .. "There are people too .."
        Quote: Svyatogor
        It is unclear how long we will ukrobanderam reduce the price of gas. I really want to hear a clear explanation of such indulgence. They are "aggressors" to us and we give them a discount for that? Unclear.
        1. +6
          April 1 2016 19: 47
          Quote: dmi.pris
          And what is not clear? Remember the words of VVP .. "There are people too .."

          Well, about gas prices, I also want to shout -There are people too!
      4. +6
        April 1 2016 16: 47
        Quote: Svyatogor
        It is unclear how long we will ukrobanderam reduce the price of gas. I really want to hear a clear explanation of such indulgence. They are "aggressors" to us and we give them a discount for that? Unclear.

        On the contrary, the gas discount for Ukraine was canceled. It was reported that the Russian Federation on April 1 terminates the discount on gas prices for Ukraine due to the budget (export duty) due to the termination of the “winter package”.
        1. +9
          April 1 2016 16: 52
          "Against this background, the Russian logic is becoming less and less clear. While Kiev officials are looking for" leverage "on Russia in the United States, the Ministry of Energy announces another cut in gas prices for" Independent. "Russian Energy Minister Alexander Novak said in an interview with TASS that the price of 1 thousand cubic meters of gas for Ukraine will be less than 180 dollars "........ And how to explain this?
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        3. +1
          April 1 2016 19: 26
          Quote: Wend
          On the contrary, the gas discount for Ukraine was canceled. It was reported that the Russian Federation on April 1 terminates the discount on gas prices for Ukraine due to the budget (export duty) due to the termination of the “winter package”.



          Yep ...
          Unfortunately, by the evening of April 1, this information is outdated ...
          The price per cubic meter of gas will be below 180 bucks ...
          1. +10
            April 1 2016 19: 36
            Quote: weksha50
            Unfortunately, by the evening of April 1, this information is outdated ...
            The price per cubic meter of gas will be below 180 bucks ...

            But in the evening of April 1, there was such infa: Prime Minister of Belarus Andrei Kobyakov said that he considered unfair payments for Belarusian products in Russian rubles, and for energy - in dollars. He expressed the opinion that the price of Russian gas for Belarus should be $ 80 per thousand cubic meters. m instead of the current price of $ 142.

            “Last year, the volume of foreign trade in national currencies between countries amounted to about 82%. Belarus exports to Russia almost 100% in Russian rubles. Imports are also in Russian rubles. But we buy all energy resources for dollars, ”RIA Novosti quoted the Prime Minister as saying.

            In early March, Kommersant learned some of the details of negotiations between Arkady Dvorkovich and his Belarusian counterpart, Vladimir Semashko, on gas prices. As Kommersant found out, the Belarusian authorities, who were negotiating with Russia on the transition to the principles of equal profitability in determining gas prices, offered Moscow a temporary discount option. Sources of Kommersant disagree in the definition of the mechanism for its provision: they refer to both the option of a discount of $ 25 to the base price of the contract, and discount to the final price of the contract. request
            1. +2
              April 1 2016 20: 34
              Quote: vovanpain
              Father ally type is even more abruptly extortionist. Than dill.


              Um ... In childhood, I fell into old age ... I felt unsinkable and irreplaceable ...

              PS Previously, Ukraine screamed that Russia was feeding ... Well, now, but father could have such thoughts ...
              But the truth is, does he feed Russia with shrimps and bananas, caught and grown in Belarus ???
              1. +9
                April 1 2016 21: 20
                Quote: weksha50
                But the truth is, does he feed Russia with shrimps and bananas, caught and grown in Belarus ???

                Not only prawns with bananas grow in Bati, but how many gardeners and vegetable growers in the Belarussian Sea have grown a pancake. (Image clickable) hi
      5. +3
        April 1 2016 17: 21
        Quote: Svyatogor
        They are "aggressors" to us, and we give them a discount for that?

        In my opinion, the explanation lies in the plane that it’s like the people are to blame for something, that he has such rulers lol That's just with such propaganda, which is now in Ukraine (brains are washed even worse than Goebbels), and the people themselves will consider Russia an aggressor, and not just the type of power request
        1. +11
          April 1 2016 17: 51
          Only here are ballot boxes with the inscription help the children in each store how to react to this.
        2. +4
          April 1 2016 21: 03
          Quote: Rurikovich
          Quote: Svyatogor
          They are "aggressors" to us, and we give them a discount for that?

          In my opinion, the explanation lies in the plane that it’s like the people are to blame for something, that he has such rulers lol That's just with such propaganda, which is now in Ukraine (brains are washed even worse than Goebbels), and the people themselves will consider Russia an aggressor, and not just the type of power request

          Yes, gas with discounts does not reach the people of Independence, does not reach. Discounts are made for those who are sitting on gas in the "Banderstad". And they are driving for their electorate without any discounts-7 skins tear. And in Russia we pay for discounts for the "okraina".
          CONCLUSION?
          Both our and theirs officials are doing “gesheft” on us and on h.h.l.h.
          Something like this, comrades.
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          2. 0
            April 2 2016 04: 07
            You will laugh, but for the population of Ukraine gas in price will rise. Roughly speaking after the "Maidan" it increased from 3,6 to 7 times !!! (Depending on the consumption. Quotas of 3.60 are not enough, REALLY.) They promised to raise the price is still 1,5 times !!! I live in / in Ukraine while I live ... I just don’t understand why I have a flag that is Amurukan or Norwegian? request
      6. +10
        April 1 2016 18: 03
        And we ourselves will soon suffocate in the prices of our own gasoline and salary + price increases for all transportation of products. Maybe we’ll steal gas for free at all, they’re on the go, and a Russian man will pay all the costs of the Central Bank oligarchs and the budget! Beat your own, so that strangers live better!
      7. mihasik
        +1
        April 1 2016 19: 06
        Quote: Svyatogor
        It is unclear how long we will ukrobanderam reduce the price of gas. I really want to hear a clear explanation of such indulgence. They are "aggressors" to us and we give them a discount for that? Unclear.

        When our government in general and Gazprom in particular becomes an aggressor for you, then they will find a discount for you too!
        Our authorities act on the contrary. Praise the authorities, it means you can rob, and if they criticize for what the world is worth, here you have discounts in tens of percent. Learn from Bandera how to milk the "Aggressor"!
      8. +5
        April 1 2016 19: 07
        Quote: Svyatogor
        I'd like to hear a clear explanation of such condescension.


        From whom would you like to hear a clear explanation?

        Here is a list of Gazprom’s largest shareholders:

        - The Russian Federation represented by the Federal Property Management Agency (38,373%),
        - OJSC Rosneftegaz * (10,970%),
        - JSC Rosgazification * (0,889%): total 50,232%,
        That is, 50,232% - state participation in assets ...
        - ADR holders (28,392%),
        - other registered persons (21,376%).

        None of THESE is going to report to you (US) ...

        And I want to add: Gazprom has a monopoly (!!!) right to produce and export (!!!) Russian gas ...

        All questions are not for Novak and Miller, but for Medvedev ...
        1. 0
          April 2 2016 08: 29
          Quote: weksha50
          and to Medvedev ..



          But Putin is not in business? This is our guarantor.
      9. 0
        April 1 2016 20: 35
        Quote: Svyatogor
        It is unclear how long we will ukrobanderam reduce the price of gas. I really want to hear a clear explanation of such indulgence. They are "aggressors" to us and we give them a discount for that? Unclear.

        From April 1, there will be no discounts on Russian gas for Ukraine... It will expire on March 31, 2016. The gas price will fully comply with the contract between Gazprom and Naftogaz of Ukraine. This is stated in the statement of the head of the Ministry of Energy Alexander Novak on the agency's website.

        The discount agreements were established as part of the so-called "winter package" agreed by Russia, Ukraine and the European Union in 2014. In 2015, the document was signed for the second time, its term expires on March 31.

        So, a gas discount for Ukraine was provided by the Russian government for the first quarter of 2016 in the amount of $ 17,77 per thousand cubic meters, which at a contract price of about $ 230 per 1 cubic meters means a price of about $ 212. However, Ukraine considers this price to be too high and has not been purchasing gas from Gazprom since November 2015..

      10. 0
        April 1 2016 21: 18
        Under the contract, the price of gas is tied to the price of oil. Formally, everything is correct.
      11. 0
        April 1 2016 21: 32
        Quote: Svyatogor
        It is unclear how long we will reduce the gas price to ukrobandera.



        Belarusians believe that the fair price for gas is 80 bucks))) But we won’t sell it, they will join NATO wassat
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        2. Erg
          0
          April 1 2016 22: 37
          And I think the price for the "Belarusian" salmon is 300 per kg. Who agrees" wassat
      12. 0
        April 1 2016 23: 54
        Quote: Svyatogor
        It is unclear how long we will ukrobanderam reduce the price of gas. I really want to hear a clear explanation of such indulgence. They are "aggressors" to us and we give them a discount for that? Unclear.

        Subtle grandmaster move of our president.
        It’s like with a base in Cuba.
        We close on the pretext that paying 150 million dollars a year is expensive.
        And in a few years, we are writing off 30 billions of dollars to Cuba.
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      1. +41
        April 1 2016 16: 42
        Recently, while reading news about Ukraine, my brain is in full swing trying to understand the logic of the Kiev junta .... I have read and agree something ... TIRED already from Ukraine! hi
        1. 0
          April 1 2016 16: 47
          so already abandoned this idea
        2. +15
          April 1 2016 16: 49
          Tired? Come to our Kuban for a vacation .. Summer is coming, go to the Crimea .. And stop bothering with the news from Ukraine .. There simply aren't any ..
          Quote: ANISIM
          Recently, while reading news about Ukraine, my brain is in full swing trying to understand the logic of the Kiev junta .... I have read and agree something ... TIRED already from Ukraine! hi
          1. +14
            April 1 2016 17: 03
            Quote: dmi.pris
            And stop bothering with the news from Ukraine .. There simply aren't there ..

            Alas, it’s already too late .. I put my heart (heart attack), I take everything too close to my heart .. (not only Ukraine, etc.) I collect analyzes .. I need to go for surgery hi After the capture of Palmyra (our conclusion is still, just a balm on my heart ..) I am proud of Russia! I wish the Turks would take revenge, then I would be calm ... hi
            1. +9
              April 1 2016 18: 50
              Quote: ANISIM
              I take everything too close to my heart.

              I sympathize, I myself am such, in March, I spent 10 days under a dropper. I wish you good health. And abstract from the outside. Calmness (inner) is the main thing.
              1. 0
                April 1 2016 19: 14
                Quote: EvgNik
                I sympathize, I myself am such, in March, I spent 10 days under a dropper. I wish you good health. And abstract from the outside. Calmness (inner) is the main thing.

                hi Exactly! This is Carlson's main rule: "Calm, only calm!" fellow
          2. 0
            April 3 2016 11: 05
            And how our gentlemen have invested not weak grandmas in production. For them, definitely a nightmare.
    3. +1
      April 1 2016 16: 43
      Pavel Klimkin announced that Ukraine “will try in Washington find additional leverage pressure on Russia "

      Loot they are trying to find ... extra. Poryas himself admitted the day before.
      Chugunkin again went "out of suit"! wassat
      1. +6
        April 1 2016 17: 17
        Quote: Semen
        Pavel Klimkin announced that Ukraine “will try in Washington find additional leverage pressure on Russia "

        Loot they are trying to find ... extra. Poryas himself admitted the day before.
        Chugunkin again went "out of suit"! wassat

        And after all, how persistently he seeks ....., these very ..... levers.
      2. +1
        April 1 2016 17: 46
        Quote: Semen
        Loot they are trying to find ... extra. Poryas himself admitted the day before.

        The government of Mongolia approved the claim of Ukraine for the damage caused to it during the Tatar-Mongol yoke. The parliamentarians adopted in the third reading the "Law on the payment of compensation to the conquered peoples during the reign of Khan Batya". Speaker of the Great Khural Zandaahuugiin Enkhbold submitted the adopted Law for signature to Mongolian President Tsakhiagiin Elbegdorzh. Now, starting from June 1, 2016, Mongolia will transfer to Ukraine 1 billion tugriks per year for 25 years until Ukraine joins the EU, as previously announced by the President of the European Commission Jean-Claude Juncker.
        1. cap
          0
          April 1 2016 20: 13
          Quote: Tim Coconuts
          Mongolia will transfer to Ukraine 1 billion tugriks a year for 25 years until Ukraine joins the EU, as previously stated by the President of the European Commission, Jean-Claude Juncker.


          Compensation only to those who present a passport with a residence permit in the capital of the Golden Horde laughing
    4. +12
      April 1 2016 16: 47
      '' The Ministry of Energy announces another cut in the gas price for the 'Nezalezhnaya'. Russian Energy Minister Alexander Novak said in an interview with TASS that the price of 1 cubic meters of gas for Ukraine will be less than $ 180. '' Why are gas prices not decreasing for Russian residents? Are we already worse than the Ukrainians?
      1. +3
        April 1 2016 17: 37
        Quote: papas-57
        '' The Ministry of Energy announces another cut in the gas price for the 'Nezalezhnaya'. Russian Energy Minister Alexander Novak said in an interview with TASS that the price of 1 cubic meters of gas for Ukraine will be less than $ 180. '' Why are gas prices not decreasing for Russian residents? Are we already worse than the Ukrainians?

        Because the price of gas for gas is now less than $ 180, which raised such a cry.
        1. +8
          April 1 2016 18: 44
          Quote: igor67
          Because the price of gas for gas is now less than $ 180,

          The contract price for Russian gas for Ukraine in the second quarter of 2016 will be less than $ 180 per thousand cubic meters, Alexander Novak told reporters. This is lower than the price of the first quarter: in January-March, a thousand cubic meters of gas cost $ 212.

          For this reason, Russia does not see the point in providing the Ukrainian side with additional discounts. "The price, which is formed according to the formula, is competitive, and there is no need now to provide discounts," the minister said.

          The head of the Ministry of Energy recalled that the contract with Ukraine was signed until 2019. Taking into account the cost of oil, gas prices, according to him, are now very low (the cost of "blue fuel" is tied to oil quotations). "They correspond to the prices for gas supplies to Europe by other countries," - quoted Novak TASS. Ukraine has not purchased Russian gas since November 2015, preferring purchases in Europe. On the eve, Naftogaz announced that Kiev would not resume the purchase of "blue fuel" on unfavorable terms. The company clarified that this decision will not affect the transportation of Russian gas to EU countries.



          At the same time, earlier, the Minister of Energy and Coal Industry of Ukraine Vladimir Demchishin said that the country is ready to buy gas from Russia if Gazprom offers it a market price. The official explained that now "Naftogaz" buys gas in Europe at $ 170 per 1 cubic meters, while the Russian "blue fuel" from April 185 has cost $ XNUMX per XNUMX cubic meters.
        2. mihasik
          +3
          April 1 2016 21: 18
          Quote: igor67
          Because the price of gas for gas is now less than $ 180, which raised such a cry.

          Ordinary economy you say?))) Now I hear from the news about the increase in excise taxes on fuel: "In Russia, the price of a liter of gasoline / diesel fuel is the lowest in the world, translating the cost into EURO !!! Your mother! And what about our people in EURO, European salaries receive ? !!! Or the power in our EU lives, and the people at the other pole and therefore cannot understand each other in any way?
          1. +2
            April 1 2016 22: 08
            Quote: mihasik
            Quote: igor67
            Because the price of gas for gas is now less than $ 180, which raised such a cry.

            Ordinary economy you say?))) Now I hear from the news about the increase in excise taxes on fuel: "In Russia, the price of a liter of gasoline / diesel fuel is the lowest in the world, translating the cost into EURO !!! Your mother! And what about our people in EURO, European salaries receive ? !!! Or the power in our EU lives, and the people at the other pole and therefore cannot understand each other in any way?

            I watched your news, due to excisations your government wants to get 90 billion rubles. To me, what claims, we have also risen in price from today gasoline and diesel fuel,
            1. mihasik
              0
              April 1 2016 22: 40
              Quote: igor67
              To me, what claims, we have also risen in price from today gasoline and diesel fuel,

              You are forgivable, you do not extract oil). And the claims in the phrase "conventional economy". When the brains of the Government are swollen with fat and refuse to work, what is the solution? Rob the people! Here is the easiest way to close the holes in the budget caused by the impotence of the authorities at all times and not only in Russia. You call this "Normal Economy" ?!
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    7. +27
      April 1 2016 16: 50
      Either we will force Russia to work on our Minsk logic, on our common logic with our partners - Germans, French, American friends - and this is de-escalation and progress towards free and fair elections, or we must find ways to put pressure on Russia is different: not only through sanctions, but also through other options of political pressure.

      Did the splash screen grow Chugunkin? And this Novak would be for Miller themselves to sell Khokhlov at a discount, Russians would be given a discount hoopoes.
    8. +1
      April 1 2016 17: 30
      But our logic is simple: summer is coming, the time of the traditional decline in energy demand, and in Ukraine especially, industry in a coma, housing and communal services is close to that, they need less and less gas, and we need sales.
      In the furnace of this logic. Not a cube of jackals.
    9. 0
      April 1 2016 17: 41
      and the people simply don’t understand that we have 50% of the budget provided by customs, and tax authorities only within 20% ....
      Since no one pays taxes properly (including citizens) —the construction of ships and aircraft, the general strengthening of the army comes from the proceeds of the export customs duty on hydrocarbons (which is approximately 80% of the total mass of customs duties) ..
      This leads to what you want - if you don’t want to - and the price of hydrocarbons will have to be reduced (and the general low level of oil prices is also pressured by seasonal consumption), otherwise options with reverses and the like are nonsense ...
      No, of course, the price can be lifted to the skies - but there is a chance that the 404 country will spill all 100% of the gas consumed - and we will pay penalties for gas not delivered to Europe. And yes, they can still increase the transit fee ....
      This is exactly why all sorts of "Streams" have arisen bypassing country 404, and this is precisely why gas prices are falling.
      Such is the sadness, would have built the USSR in the 80s not "Urengoy-Pomary Uzhgorod", but something else along the Baltic Sea and everything would have been normal .. but who knew something?
    10. +1
      April 1 2016 18: 58
      Quote: Vladimirets
      But our logic is simple: summer is coming, the time of the traditional decline in energy demand, and in Ukraine especially, industry in a coma, housing and communal services is close to that, they need less and less gas, and we need sales.



      Unfortunately and regret, you are right ...

      It was necessary to crush Naftogaz in the fall, and to press hard ... Then they would put the "boys" in their place ...

      And now Klimkin almost again demands and puffed up ...
      In this case, only our Gazprom and the government are guilty ... They have allowed and continue to allow themselves to sit on their necks ...
      1. -1
        April 1 2016 20: 44
        That’s why all flows are thoughtless policies for the sake of profit, which later will come to our side, like with Ukraine, do you hope the EU is better, more reliable? In vain will they divorce our greedy oligarchs in the courts, law and will only have to pay for the stupidity of some, people again
    11. +1
      April 1 2016 21: 21
      I don’t understand anything at all, Russia is not a party to the Minsk treaties, how side should we observe something there ???
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  3. +9
    April 1 2016 16: 37
    Our liberals in the Government are ready to do anything to serve the Oligarchs. After all, they themselves feed from their hands ...
  4. Oml
    +3
    April 1 2016 16: 37
    We have enough criminally intricate.
  5. +3
    April 1 2016 16: 37
    It is necessary to hold a referendum on the inclusion of Novorossia in Russia and not pay attention to the opinion of the West. It's time to dot the "i" already. Russia has proved in Syria its ability to defend its point of view on world developments. soldier
    1. +4
      April 1 2016 16: 40
      Then Crimea was barely pulled (economically), and you offer all of New Russia.
      1. +1
        April 1 2016 18: 56
        Quote: Nsk 54
        Then Crimea was barely pulled (economically), and you offer all of New Russia.

        If not Novorossia now, then in a couple of years all of Ukraine will be put on the neck.
  6. +14
    April 1 2016 16: 37
    So, for Bandera Ukraine, which spoils Russia to put it mildly, gas prices are reduced, but for their own population, prices are raised. How much can you feed this damn Ukraine for free?
    1. Erg
      0
      April 1 2016 22: 42
      Check out the list of Gazprom shareholders. Questions will disappear by themselves. hi
  7. +15
    April 1 2016 16: 38
    Maybe it’s time for the FSB to pay attention to the fact that Novak’s surname is Ukrainian and stop feeding and providing all the necessary anti-Russian Bandera regime and its subjects at the expense of Russia?! Given the anti-Russian policy of the former Soviet republics, the Russian government should be formed exclusively from the indigenous peoples living in Russia, and not from non-Russian patriots who came to Russia. These people wanted independence from Russia and gained it, and a non-Russian patriot should live in their historical Motherland, and not in Russia and not at the expense of Russia. An independent state should live at its own expense, and not at the expense of the Russian Federation.
  8. +2
    April 1 2016 16: 38
    no, still Pavlo PinzhakNaVyrost would have looked better under President Klitschko fellow sorry, didn’t become the supreme commander recourse
    1. 0
      April 1 2016 17: 12
      Congress of Freaks.
  9. +15
    April 1 2016 16: 38
    Mr. Novak- FOR ..... you fucking our Russian people with discounts for our brothers in mind.
  10. +16
    April 1 2016 16: 39
    This "davilkin" slightly exaggerated its significance. Many people there think so.
  11. +8
    April 1 2016 16: 40
    "... While the Kiev officials are looking for" leverage "on Russia in the United States, the Ministry of Energy announces another cut in gas prices for the" Independent. "Russian Energy Minister Alexander Novak in an interview with TASS said that the price of 1 cubic meters of gas for Ukraine less than $ 180 ... "

    Klim Chugunkin is broadcasting something about "Ukrainian logic" (albeit completely dislocated), but I refuse to understand the logic of our Energy Ministry (or Minister) at all
    1. +3
      April 1 2016 17: 54
      Well, the better our power is Ukrainian? Those same companions. The Rosson parasitic pseudo-elite will certainly bring Russia to the state of present-day Ukraine, it is a matter of time. It is not for nothing that Americans perceive our under-elite as natives. These parasites and Putin feel at ease and what will happen when he leaves .
      1. 0
        April 1 2016 19: 44
        Well, the better our power is Ukrainian? Those same companions. The Rosson parasitic pseudo-elite will certainly bring Russia to the state of modern Ukraine, it is a matter of time


        We do not yet know who will be after Putin, but if he follows the promise he made at the beginning of his career, then this Tsar-Father will not be in favor of our people. The parasitic pseudo-elite is not going to let go of theirs, the sons of the big bosses were timely appointed to continue the "affairs" of their fathers, which means the plundering of the Russian State will continue, and there is no end in sight. Sad and anxious at heart!
  12. +11
    April 1 2016 16: 40
    Quote: Svyatogor
    That’s the whole “Ukrainian logic”. yes Boss, help!
  13. +8
    April 1 2016 16: 42
    It’s high time to fence this plague quarter specifically so that neither the soul nor any goods at all. Transfers as one of the sources of financing to stop. We must proceed to the tactics of mirror steps. And then dodging even spits tired. To set an ultimatum weakly?
  14. +17
    April 1 2016 16: 42
    Here Bl ...! There are no cultural words! That discount on gas, then "investment in US bonds"! Isn't it time to clean the top in Moscow? Shoot some ...
    1. +9
      April 1 2016 16: 45
      The Cat.
      That's honest, it seems that he is not a supporter of radical measures, but in this matter with all limbs -ZA.
    2. +17
      April 1 2016 16: 59
      Quote: The Cat
      Is it time to clean the top in Moscow? Shoot some.

      not the topic, but still ...

      Moscow, metro station Arbatskaya. The stucco collapsed and Stalin peered out from under it. Not 1 April. And if the April Fool’s joke from the metro workers, then nifiga is no longer a joke, but the real truth
      http://politikus.ru/uploads/posts/2016-04/1459509050_2.jpg

      Source: http://politikus.ru/v-rossii/73432-v-moskovskom-metro-obvalilas-shtukaturka-i-iz
      -pod-nee-vyglyanul-stalin.htmlPolitikus.ru
      Guys! who is there in Moscow? Can I check? if it is true. then see already a SIGN. And it seems like Lavrenty Palcha had a birthday yesterday ... feel
      1. +10
        April 1 2016 17: 54
        Fidget (2)
        And it seems like Lavrenty Palcha had a birthday yesterday ..

        That would be after a bear, a foundling in the outskirts and these specialists
        1. 0
          April 1 2016 22: 21
          That would be after a bear, a foundling in the outskirts and these specialists

          What are you? !!!!!! belay
          They are in Russia more needed .
  15. +18
    April 1 2016 16: 42
    Wonderful title. And I would also add "And for us, from April 1, the price of gasoline and a ruble of diesel will rise by 2 rubles!"
    1. +5
      April 1 2016 16: 57
      Quote: Burieway
      Wonderful title. And I would also add "And for us, from April 1, the price of gasoline and a ruble of diesel will rise by 2 rubles!"

      You calculated only the excise tax, and there is also the price of fuel itself. So, there is a whole bunch of space for creative thought.
      1. +3
        April 1 2016 17: 09
        Quote: dogens
        Quote: Burieway
        Wonderful title. And I would also add "And for us, from April 1, the price of gasoline and a ruble of diesel will rise by 2 rubles!"

        You calculated only the excise tax, and there is also the price of fuel itself. So, there is a whole bunch of space for creative thought.

        And after the price of fuel, since the main cargo transportation by road, the space for creative thought extends even further .........
  16. +1
    April 1 2016 16: 43
    Quote: Svyatogor
    It is unclear how long we will concede to ukrobander.

    I completely agree! I got this nezalezhnaya their vye *** us! and the sooner Ukrainians feel that Russia is not going to feed their power, the faster the zombie-bogeyman scatters in their heads ... otherwise they sit on their feet exactly ... and just whimper how bad they feel ..
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    1. +2
      April 1 2016 16: 46
      Quote: Svyatogor
      Those volumes are just a drop in the bucket from total exports.

      The chicken is pecking a grain, but now we are not at all interested in fat.
  18. +8
    April 1 2016 16: 45
    The Minister of Energy of the Russian Federation may be thinking more about his own citizens, how in the country to lower gas prices? Or are the enemies of our country closer to him?
  19. +5
    April 1 2016 16: 45
    Where to go, the poor need to be helped again ...... STEAMED ... everything is for them only for FREE, Smelly geeks !!!
  20. +9
    April 1 2016 16: 47
    I will join many in our country who disagree with gas discounts for Ukraine. Country 404 behaves in a hostile way, But we lower prices for them. I have no words! Only emotions! The feeling that everyone does not care about the opinion of an ordinary citizen. One example: when the state feels bad for banks, when a citizen has problems with repaying loans, he is for himself. But after all, assistance is also provided for my taxes. A friend told me, though it’s been a long time ago, he talked with Ukrainians about the price of gas for an ordinary consumer, so for Ukrainians the price of gas was cheaper. Is that justice !? am am am am am am
    P.S. I am not campaigning for the Maidan, but a drop of justice should still be present in the minds of those who make such decisions, not all "grandmothers" to measure!
  21. +1
    April 1 2016 16: 48
    A new appeal is coming soon in Russia ... It's time to end this circus ..!
  22. +4
    April 1 2016 16: 48
    Excise taxes on fuel are growing in Russia, and fines for late payment of housing and communal services are increasing. And the neighbors write off debts and reduce the price of resources. All for the people, all for his good. Who thinks differently is the fifth and sixth columns. Left. Or in the back.
    So when was the slave system abolished there? ..
    1. -1
      April 1 2016 17: 34
      Quote: erased
      Excise taxes on fuel are growing in Russia, and fines for late payment of housing and communal services are increasing. And the neighbors write off debts and reduce the price of resources. All for the people, all for his good. Who thinks differently is the fifth and sixth columns. Left. Or in the back.
      So when was the slave system abolished there? ..

      Are you proposing again a "revolution" like in the 90s ..? We went through this already ...
      1. 0
        April 1 2016 18: 05
        Did I talk about some suggestions? Why attribute your thoughts to me? Or is it a provocation?
  23. -1
    April 1 2016 16: 50
    I would suggest sitting upright and breathing calmly. GDP has already proved that in the end, in foreign policy, it beats "partners" and "allies." I think that today you can trust him.
    1. +4
      April 1 2016 17: 08
      He proved that he knows how to create a show and that’s it.
      1. 0
        April 1 2016 17: 46
        He proved that he knows how to create a show and that’s it.
        And shitty show.
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      3. -5
        April 1 2016 17: 57
        Quote: Red Jack
        He proved that he knows how to create a show and that’s it.

        And you yourself what you have achieved in life, which mountain has been turned? Do you want to criticize? Do it better, here is the most productive criticism.
        1. -1
          April 1 2016 21: 54
          It’s annoying that a rather large mass of people can only thrash ... nude on the clave, without answering for anything. Well, what we are, such and our life ...
    2. 0
      April 1 2016 23: 21
      Quote: ARES623
      I would suggest sitting upright and breathing calmly. GDP has already proved that in the end, in foreign policy, it beats "partners" and "allies." I think that today you can trust him.

      and "finished" everyone again?
      From April 1, the increase in excise taxes on gasoline and diesel fuel comes into force in Russia. Relevant Bill Earlier signed by President Vladimir Putin.
  24. +17
    April 1 2016 16: 50
    dill, with their innate filthiness, has not been surprising for a long time ... Our "leaders" are surprising. I read about $ 180 per 1000 cubic meters. I read it again. I checked it over with other sources. It's like that!!! Our geniuses of the village business make another curtsy in the direction from which slops are poured on us and threats of reprisals are heard ... dill has become an open enemy of Russia !!! Now the question arises: "Xy from Mr. Novak?" Maybe he got a xoxolckoe citizenship? Is Russia a temporary place of residence?
    1. +4
      April 1 2016 17: 09
      I would be VERY satisfied if the disrespectful novak was fired after such a statement. Only I really understand that the decision was made above ... But how much "higher"?
    2. +1
      April 1 2016 17: 42
      "Xy of Mister Novak?"


      But what has Novak to do with it?
  25. +3
    April 1 2016 16: 52
    Why be shy? Stolen goods are always at half price and went on the market. They steal from Russia, rafting to Ukraine. The Russians raised heating tariffs and twice the excise tax on gas, and in the DPR and LPR - gas - for free. Ukrainians - well done! Here's how to please for your country! Glory to Ukraine! The TV is in the pantry! They forgot to return Crimea, but this is a matter of time.
  26. +5
    April 1 2016 16: 53
    With the price of gas is not clear. I would like to receive clarifications from officials. Again a sense of sabotage by management.
    1. +5
      April 1 2016 16: 57
      I am not an official, but the price of gas, according to the formula, is tied to the price of oil products, and they fall from here and below 180.
      1. 0
        April 2 2016 02: 19
        Well, it's time to untie and untie, I do not see a problem.
        1. 0
          April 2 2016 02: 27
          Around the world, work is underway to reduce the consumption of petroleum products, cars are being converted to gas and electric traction, boiler houses are being converted from fuel oil to gas, and they have reached engine oil from gas. All this reduces oil consumption = lower oil prices. And here there is absurdity - gas consumption is growing, but since the price of it is tied to oil, then with increasing demand for gas, its price falls. Hey economists, are you all home?
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  28. 0
    April 1 2016 16: 55
    Their pipelines are worn out. Maybe so, by air, but with a double head?
  29. +4
    April 1 2016 16: 56
    Quote: Wend

    On the contrary, the gas discount for Ukraine was canceled. It was reported that the Russian Federation on April 1 terminates the discount on gas prices for Ukraine due to the budget (export duty) due to the termination of the “winter package”.

    Against this background, Russian logic is becoming less and less understood. While Kiev officials are looking for "leverage" on Russia in the United States, the Ministry of Energy announces another reduction in gas prices for the "independent". Russian Energy Minister Alexander Novak in an interview with TASS said that the price of 1 thousand cubic meters of gas for Ukraine would be less than $ 180 ........ How to explain this?
  30. +3
    April 1 2016 16: 57
    The people, maybe before yelling about the fact that "again, the price of gas is being reduced to Ukraine, for what ... they sold it .... everything was leaked ...." etc., take the trouble to remember that according to the contract gas price depends on oil prices with some time lag. The details of the contracts, of course, were not given, but they have been writing about the principle of setting gas prices for several years.
    1. +2
      April 1 2016 17: 48
      Quote: tolancop
      The people, maybe before yelling about the fact that "again, the price of gas is being reduced to Ukraine, for what ... they sold it .... everything was leaked ...." etc., take the trouble to remember that according to the contract gas price depends on oil prices with some time lag.

      Add ....
      For some reason, we forgot about another clause of the contract, which was suspended until April 1, 2016. Take-or-pay starts today. Let's examine the contract under which Ukraine will pay 300% of the fine.

      The contract contains clause 6 "Liability of the parties", in which clause 6.6 is very important. In the event that the Buyer fails to select a Monthly Gas Supply in excess of 6% of the Monthly Supply, The Buyer pays the Seller a fine of 300% of the total unselected volume of natural gas, if the fact of non-selection occurred during April-September of any Delivery Year, or in the amount of 150% of the total unselected volume of natural gas, if the fact of non-selection occurred during October-March of any Delivery Year. Payment of the specified fine is carried out within 10 banking days from the date the Seller provides the relevant account.
      And now there are two claims in the arbitration court: one is Naftogaz versus Gazprom, the other is Gazprom versus Naftogaz Ukrainy. Today, the chairman of the board of Naftogaz said: “We have counter claims against Gazprom in the amount of about $ 23 billion. Hearings on both claims have already begun.” Where did he get the figure of 23 billion, although in February he voiced $ 30 billion - a question ... In turn, Gazprom in March 2016 increased its claims against NJSC Naftogaz of Ukraine from $ 29,2 billion to $ 31,759 billion. 2,549 billion dollars is just a fine for gas not chosen by Ukraine in the third quarter of 2015 on the basis of "take-or-pay" (clause 6.6. Of the current contract). Now we can expect that Gazprom will increase the amount of the claim on a quarterly basis. The final decision of the Arbitration Court is expected in the summer of 2016 (approximately in June).

      Source: http://politikus.ru/articles/73436-take-or-pay-dlya-ukrainy-startuet-segodnya.ht
      ml
      Politikus.ru
      So maybe not so bad? The price has been reduced, but they will take fines! wassat
    2. +2
      April 1 2016 18: 37
      So it is so. You can agree with this logic. Only who will answer me what the question is "rozhna" we, residents of the Russian Federation, pay more and more every month and year? As always, they rip off the poorest so that the top of the government and its sponsors in the form of raw-material oligarchs are covered in chocolate. Nothing changes in this f ... th country.
      1. +2
        April 1 2016 21: 09
        ".. Nothing changes in this f ... th country ..."
        I really do not want to look like a patriot, only Russia, good or bad, will never be THIS country for me. For me, she is somehow MY or OUR ...

        What I can agree with is that the increase in domestic gas prices during the crisis does not look, to put it mildly, VERY. And taking into account information about the doubling of Gazprom’s profit in 2015, it looks VERY generally (obscene) ...
        1. 0
          April 3 2016 11: 25
          Lovely !! Everyone is dreaming about it.
  31. +6
    April 1 2016 16: 59
    Without many words:
    The contract price of Russian gas for Ukraine in the second quarter of 2016 is less than $ 180 for 1 thousand cubic meters, Russian Energy Minister Alexander Novak said on Friday, Interfax reports.
    This is lower than the price of the first quarter, but from April the discount for Ukraine ceases to apply. In January-March, the price was $ 212 for 1 thousand cubic meters, taking into account the discount of $ 17.
    Even taking into account the cancellation of the discount, such a reduction in prices is due to the fact that the price of gas is tied to the cost of oil products and is calculated over the past nine months. The first quarter of the 2016 of the year entered this period with record low oil prices.
    Read more at RBC:
    http://www.rbc.ru/business/01/04/2016/56fe5f929a7947ca49d8410e
  32. 0
    April 1 2016 17: 07
    The head of the Ministry of Energy of the Russian Federation, Alexander Novak, said that for Russia it makes no sense to provide Ukraine with a discount on gas. According to him, fuel prices are already reduced. In this regard, the expediency of trilateral negotiations disappears.

    https://russian.rt.com/article/156646

    Check before you post frank get along.
  33. +6
    April 1 2016 17: 09
    But what can you produce nothing from gas in Russia? What only needs to be sold to them at a dumping price? Putin, the Investigative Committee, the Prosecutor looking where? I would understand the increase in tariffs if they said here and there we build new gas and oil processing plants. We’ll get a product that meets world standards and is in demand on the world market. Then trade, earn currency, introduce a new one. And this excuse prostitution at the expense of the Russians.
    1. +2
      April 1 2016 21: 16
      1. Russia on the world market with a NEW product is not expected at all. On the contrary, everything is busy, and in order to climb into someone else’s garden you have to properly clap your teeth.
      2. Domestic affairs are immeasurable. It seems that there is no excess of the same fertilizers at affordable prices.
  34. +1
    April 1 2016 17: 12
    The contract was signed on gas with Ukraine until 2019. The gas price under the contract is tied to the price of petroleum products, with the ensuing consequences, the question is probably to the relevant authorities, where are the gentlemen looking?
  35. +3
    April 1 2016 17: 15
    Quote: ANISIM
    Alas, it’s already too late .. I put my heart (heart attack), I take everything too close to my heart .. (not only Ukraine, etc.) I collect analyzes .. I need to go for surgery

    You really care about yourself and Health to you.
    1. +2
      April 1 2016 17: 43
      Quote: Alget87
      Quote: ANISIM
      Alas, it’s already too late .. I put my heart (heart attack), I take everything too close to my heart .. (not only Ukraine, etc.) I collect analyzes .. I need to go for surgery

      You really care about yourself and Health to you.

      Thank you ... I still have to raise my sons with Russia .. They are young, but they study well! There is little hope for his wife, she will wipe snot at 18 ... I’m fighting! hi
      1. +2
        April 1 2016 19: 04
        I wish you health and strength.
  36. +3
    April 1 2016 17: 17
    ### With the price of gas is not clear. I would like to receive clarifications from officials. Again the feeling of sabotage by the leadership. ###



    Reducing gas prices by Russian oligarchs for Ukrainian oligarchs. Business and some personal.
    Workers of TWO countries unite !!! am am am
  37. +1
    April 1 2016 17: 19
    It’s enough for our authorities to push their buttocks in front of Ukraine. It’s not a man’s way. They spit in our faces and our authorities bend over them. Maidan began with displeasure of the population, no matter how fried we smelled and pour oil on a hot stove, there are many who want to .
  38. +9
    April 1 2016 17: 20
    In fact, you won’t say more precisely ...
  39. +1
    April 1 2016 17: 23
    Ukrainians threw off gas and Russian you raise gas and beat off Th threw off, and you shove Vasya Vani Peti, and they are someone else there on this gas and get enough
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  41. +3
    April 1 2016 17: 28
    Quote: drags33
    Now the question arises: "Xy from Mr. Novak?" Maybe he got a xoxolckoe citizenship? Is Russia a temporary place of residence?

    Well, Novak has something to do with it, does he decide such questions? Here either DAM or the Most Serene One, without options, as they say, "nothing personal, just business." And the additional capitalization of Sberbank and VTB is in ruins, with a complete refusal to work in Crimea, who is Ulyaev or Siluminich to blame? Loot and only loot, and we will again be bred like rabbits at 86% of the rating.
  42. +1
    April 1 2016 17: 28
    "Either we will force Russia to work for our logic in Minsk, for our common logic with our partners - Germans, French, American friends ..."

    There it is, with partners the Germans and the French and the dill friends of the Americans!
    Lord from Kiev I want to remind you that:
    Partners - the conflict strains and forces to reconsider the relationship.
    Partners will never reveal to each other all "their cards", each has its own trade secret.
    Partners, if they share, then only in debt or with interest, be sure to exchange for something.
    Now, and your American friends, if you were allowed to beat the black king in one of the buttocks, this does not mean that he considers you friends and it may happen that you will not be allowed to the second buttock. Friendship is a disinterested concept, but such pr / prostitutes as you do not understand!
  43. +1
    April 1 2016 17: 28
    ... They effortlessly raised ... also lowered .... (INPUT-OUT)! Everything for the consumer, everything for the client!
    The question is, is there justice and how should people relate to such maneuvers, because GAZ is the common property ... or how?
  44. +2
    April 1 2016 17: 32
    In Russia, gasoline is getting more expensive so that Ukraine can throw off gas. They are splintering at us, and we are making concessions. Interesting
  45. +3
    April 1 2016 17: 32
    Piristist power no words
  46. +7
    April 1 2016 17: 32
    It’s interesting, when will the Russian population get a discount? For gas, for utilities, for electricity? On gasoline, the excise tax is increased, and then everything else will stretch. Ah, Mr. Medvedev, where is the abolition of the transport tax, under which the excise tax was already raised by 3 rubles ???? The incompetent government blocks all its miscalculations at the expense of the people. We regret July 1, when we receive receipts with new tariffs ...
  47. +1
    April 1 2016 17: 33
    Ukraine buys gas in the West at 180 for CREDIT !!! IMF money. It will be given if, in terms of cost per ton, 223 USD. Nekhilo so we raise Naftogaz, better grandmothers raised a pension ...
  48. +5
    April 1 2016 17: 34
    This liberal wing of the government has already fussed, Novak is the creature of Kudrin and Russia does not have to wait for anything good from these lasts when we are already cleaning these Augean stables! angry And it would be nice to check this gentleman on a polygraph: whose water are you pouring into the mill, citizen Novak?
  49. +1
    April 1 2016 17: 39
    Russian Energy Minister Alexander Novak in an interview with TASS said that the price of 1 thousand cubic meters of gas for Ukraine would be less than $ 180.

    This is where Rogozin and Smersh are needed.
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  50. Oml
    +1
    April 1 2016 17: 40
    Tell me how it turns out, I voted for the koment of a man who was on top fifth, and after half an hour - is he already seventeenth ??? Tomorrow, apparently, will not be a dozen down.
    1. +3
      April 1 2016 18: 45
      This means that in half an hour, 12 people wedged in between the first and fifth comments by pointing to "reply".
      1. +1
        April 1 2016 21: 43
        Quote: mordvin xnumx
        This means that in half an hour, 12 people wedged in between the first and fifth comments by pointing to "reply".

        As I am now ....))) Here you can wedge in such a way that they bring the skulls on shoulder straps ... There are a lot of wise comrades here, but still, who writes from the heart (you can see them right away)
      2. +3
        April 2 2016 00: 27
        Hi Anisim. I'm sorry if I offended you.
  51. 0
    April 1 2016 17: 41
    Probably something like this

  52. +3
    April 1 2016 17: 42
    The gas price for Bandera is reduced, and the price for Russians is increased, and gasoline too...
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  54. +1
    April 1 2016 17: 52
    Over there in Paris, gas exploded in a residential building - surely Gazprem is to blame - sanctions?
  55. +1
    April 1 2016 17: 53
    Quote: tolancop
    The people, maybe before yelling about the fact that "again, the price of gas is being reduced to Ukraine, for what ... they sold it .... everything was leaked ...." etc., take the trouble to remember that according to the contract gas price depends on oil prices with some time lag. The details of the contracts, of course, were not given, but they have been writing about the principle of setting gas prices for several years.

    What does the price have to do with it anyway???? Why should we sell gas at all this morning? Let them buy from the gas power Slovakia until we build Nord Stream 2)))
  56. +4
    April 1 2016 17: 55
    Making gas discounts to the vile dill, wiping up after its spitting at us, quietly turning a deaf ear to outright rudeness and threats - and these are the actions of Great Russia? How long can this all be tolerated? It is clear that this is politics and we don’t know much... But don’t be a schmuck state to the same extent! Or do we have dill Cossack women in our government? Glory to Ukraine?
    1. +6
      April 1 2016 18: 03
      This is a capitalist policy, you want honesty and justice, the USSR must be restored
  57. 0
    April 1 2016 17: 56
    Quote: v.yegorov
    Russian Energy Minister Alexander Novak in an interview with TASS said that the price of 1 thousand cubic meters of gas for Ukraine would be less than $ 180.

    This is where Rogozin and Smersh are needed.
    Something like this, comrade..? wink
  58. 0
    April 1 2016 17: 56
    Quote: v.yegorov
    Russian Energy Minister Alexander Novak in an interview with TASS said that the price of 1 thousand cubic meters of gas for Ukraine would be less than $ 180.

    This is where Rogozin and Smersh are needed.
    Something like this, comrade..? wink
  59. hartlend
    +2
    April 1 2016 17: 56
    and Russia again reduces the price of gas for Ukraine

    It is not Russia that is lowering the price, but specific members of the Government. For what reasons this decision was made, we will not know for sure in the near future. You can talk about anything if there is no reliable information, there is no subject for conversation.
  60. +1
    April 1 2016 17: 57
    Quote: v.yegorov
    Russian Energy Minister Alexander Novak in an interview with TASS said that the price of 1 thousand cubic meters of gas for Ukraine would be less than $ 180.

    This is where Rogozin and Smersh are needed.
    Something like this, comrade..? wink
  61. +6
    April 1 2016 17: 58
    They trade Russia as they want. It’s a shame for the country, these brothers are pouring dirt on us in Russia and we smile and rub our eyes. Ugh. am
  62. +3
    April 1 2016 18: 02
    Our government didn’t care about its people: gas is getting more expensive, gasoline is getting more expensive, food is getting more expensive, and they give discounts to others!
  63. +4
    April 1 2016 18: 06
    Putin is playing too hard! We need to do more with Russia, and not organize sales for our neighbors!
    1. +1
      April 1 2016 21: 01
      I agree, it’s time to become the president of Russia, but not of the World
  64. +3
    April 1 2016 18: 09
    After high prices and counterfeit products, the third acute problem in the consumer market is the content of antibiotics in food products. Russian authorities warn about the danger, but shift responsibility onto the manufacturer and the consumer himself. The World Health Organization predicts mortality due to antibiotic resistance by 2050: in the Asian region - 4 thousand people per year, in Africa - 730 thousand people, in Europe – 4 thousand people, South America – 150 thousand people, North America – 390 thousand people. Rospotrebnadzor of the Russian Federation, citing WHO, does not provide only data for Russia. At the same time, it reports that it annually examines about 392 thousand food samples for antibiotic content.


    For some reason this cannot be commented on!
  65. 0
    April 1 2016 18: 10
    “Either we force Russia to work for our logic on Minsk, for our common logic with our partners - the Germans, the French, our American friends - and this is de-escalation and progress towards free and fair elections, or we must find ways to put pressure on Russia in a different way: not only through sanctions, but also through other options for political pressure."

    Kinder Surprise is not the funniest clown in the Banderlog circus, but he is very funny.
    Let's force Russia... wassat tongue lol fool
  66. +2
    April 1 2016 18: 28
    This is of course bestiality, if it’s not an April Fool’s joke, you’ll never get a thank you from these people, you’ll only assure them that everyone is owed to them anyway.
  67. +1
    April 1 2016 18: 28
    It’s high time to put this last Vlasov, a traitor to his people, to waste!
  68. 0
    April 1 2016 18: 32
    Quote: Observer2014
    "Klimkin is looking for" new levers of pressure on Russia "in Washington, and Russia again reduces the price of gas for Ukraine"
    That's the work for SMERSH! Just an article was. Well, what is not the task.

    As if this lever wouldn’t hit the Ukrainians in their own face.
  69. 0
    April 1 2016 18: 37
    (Klimkin added that Kyiv’s main goal is “to make Russia work for the Ukrainian logic under the Minsk agreements.”)

    There are several inconsistencies with this “Cicero”:
    1 - “the main goal of Kyiv,” and that Kyiv has other goals besides cutting up the remains of the country and overseas handouts?
    2 - “to force ... Russia”, is it not the tongue-tied Klimkin, the “always drunk” toffee Valtsman or the evil rabbit Yaytsenyukh with all his camarilla dreaming of FORCING RUSSIA? Like laughter.
    3 - “Ukrainian logic”, well, this part of the phrase generally falls out of the logical field, since “Ukrainian” and “logic” are incompatible concepts.
    As for the price of gas for the former Ukraine, IMHO it is equal to the price for the EU countries and remains so (the cost of gas is tied to the cost of oil, hence the fluctuations). Yes bully
  70. 0
    April 1 2016 18: 38
    And what kind of shit is this, he doesn’t look like a Ukrainian at all, he was sent by some kind of guy.
  71. +2
    April 1 2016 18: 53
    Quote: ANISIM
    Recently, while reading news about Ukraine, my brain is in full swing trying to understand the logic of the Kiev junta .... I have read and agree something ... TIRED already from Ukraine! hi

    The crests, together with the Klimkins, the Petrukhs, have already completely shaved their brains.
  72. +3
    April 1 2016 19: 02
    How long can you do this circus? When it smells like money, you are so ready to turn inside out, you think about ordinary people, and you are still looking for benefits, oh liberals, you would have been on a one-way excursion in 1937.
  73. +2
    April 1 2016 19: 09
    Russia's gas policy is completely incomprehensible! Is this the first deflection of Russia in response to Ukrainian demands?
    1. +2
      April 1 2016 19: 18
      And apparently not the last!
      that the price of 1 thousand cubic meters of gas for Ukraine will be less than $180.

      And the Republic of Belarus also seems to be demanding a 50% discount on gas - did they come to an agreement somewhere????
  74. +2
    April 1 2016 19: 18
    I would like someone to clearly explain the reason for this behavior of ours, maybe we don’t know something. Only outwardly we see the more brazenly they behave, the more we meet them halfway. WHY??? Here is Genichevsk, which we did not allow in the winter freeze, as soon as it got warmer and the need for gas decreased - he immediately reported his readiness to repel air raids by Russian aviation. Now it would be nice to send out humanitarian convoys throughout Ukraine so that they hate us even more.
  75. 0
    April 1 2016 19: 36
    Wouldn't that guy Chugunkin want the flaccid cheek?
  76. +2
    April 1 2016 19: 36
    It’s right to lower the price, forgive everyone’s debts and finally drive your people into poverty, this is our opinion.
  77. +2
    April 1 2016 19: 37
    And at the same time
    Gazprom's revenues doubled
  78. +1
    April 1 2016 20: 00
    Well, it’s not for nothing that the president’s rating has gone down. it reflects the attitude in society to the policies of the head of state.
    Why...can’t we set the gas price for both Khokhlostan and Europe at $1000 per 1000 cubic meters? If they don’t want to buy their problems, don’t let them buy them; they still won’t be able to take them by force. In the old days, that’s how things were done. I set the price as much as I want. no money to buy, go bolt from here then
  79. 0
    April 1 2016 20: 05
    Quote: KRIG55
    I would like someone to clearly explain the reason for this behavior of ours, maybe we don’t know something. Only outwardly we see the more brazenly they behave, the more we meet them halfway. WHY???

    As popular wisdom says: “Do no good, no harm will come to you.”
  80. 0
    April 1 2016 20: 10
    In short, we, the residents of Velikaya and Long-Suffering, buy gas from our oligarchs at a much higher price than our capitalist enemies. Somehow, everything is arranged in Rus' in an illogical way - someone needs to be pinched in the tail. If you are interested, you can calculate it yourself: The volume of evaporated gas from 1 liter of liquefied gas is approximately 260 liters or 0,26 m3, respectively, one cubic meter of the gas phase is equal to 3,85 liters of liquefied gas or 3,85 l/m3. But this figure is approximate, since it depends on the temperature and the ratio of the mixture of propane and butane.
  81. 0
    April 1 2016 20: 47
    Quote: Kos_kalinki9
    And who to wet? The one who is looking, or the one who reduces?

    SUCCESS!!!!!!!!!!!!
    1. +1
      April 1 2016 20: 55
      Dear, what is not clear is the “tsar” or the boyars, or maybe they emptied the treasury together, so where to get the money? So they are spinning around as best they can, where the program will be accepted, where they sell gas, where they will organize PR, where “quietly”, and who now easily?
  82. 0
    April 1 2016 22: 03
    Again, Ukraine dictates to Russia what the gas price will be, although it considers Russia an aggressor. At that time Russia was being raised
    They raise the price of gasoline and that means for all goods.
  83. +1
    April 1 2016 22: 05
    crests don’t give a damn about Russia, but our rulers, I don’t even know how to put it more gently, maybe with a back arch, well, take gas from us at a cheap price, you’re our smaller brothers, and we’ll take the difference from our own, is that how it turns out or what!? !?!?
  84. 0
    April 1 2016 22: 23
    Yes, everything is clear here, this is a fee for gas transit, in fact it is minuscule compared to the losses that we may incur in the event of a transit failure.
    As they say, business is nothing personal, BUT I think it’s not as simple as it seems at first glance.
    Without profit, our Gazprom is unlikely to do anything; they are not fools either.
  85. -2
    April 1 2016 22: 33
    People have very short memories. Russia has just begun to rise from the ass into which it was plunged in the 90s. There is movement, everyone can see it, even the Americans. This means the course has been chosen correctly. And squeals about wounded pride have nothing to do with the course of the state. Let's, as suggested by previous speakers, in response to insults and sanctions, cut off gas to the West. The consequences of such actions will lead these speakers to the idea of ​​a change in power, which is what Fashington is seeking. Thus, State Department servants speak at VO, convinced that they are for Russia and the people. It looks like thoughtful readers are leaving the site.
  86. +2
    April 1 2016 22: 34
    damn pump, I’ll soon have to walk to work (100 km), they raised the gas for us, gas for the Ukrainians, they lowered it, the question is our fucking leadership, is it ours or theirs??? And damn? ## they decided to completely kill us, bastards, there are no words for brutes.
  87. 0
    April 1 2016 23: 00
    There are saboteurs in our government and in Gazprom. These “Ukrainian friends and brothers” spoil the Russian Federation as much as they can, and our bureaucrats and Gazprom’s gas prices are reducing their gas prices, and I would increase the price of gas for them 50 times, so that they don’t dare to mock our country, even if they buy gas from the USA, you can The EU will also add gas prices so that they understand what it’s like to live with economic sanctions, but they will pay, they have nowhere to go.
  88. Erg
    0
    April 1 2016 23: 08
    Frankly speaking, I am touched by many of the posts. I conclude that many do not understand at all what is happening in the country (and the world). Who declared GDP to be their “successor”? Yeltsin. Who is Yeltsin, and to whose tune did he dance?.. Stupid slogans such as “nationalize the banks” and give a kick to the Central Bank are depressing. Why discounts for baby animals? Why don't we care about ourselves? Why is no one touching Chubais? Why weren’t Serdyukov and Vasilyeva convicted? - Still don’t understand? I will say this - because Russia, at this stage, is not an independent state. Either we will grow through reforms and a competent strategy, or we will lower the “curtain” by abandoning the dollar and giving a kick to all the bourgeoisie, both our own and Western. There is no other. Choose for yourself. bully
  89. +1
    April 2 2016 00: 14
    It seems that the entire Gazprom management is sent by “Cossacks”. Ready to spread out in front of the crests. How long can a thief be sponsored? request
  90. 0
    April 2 2016 00: 24
    Against this background, Russian logic is becoming less and less clear.

    Why is this becoming less and less understandable?

    I think everything is more understandable, even for younger children. school age.

    The more you forgive your enemy, the more you help him, it means that you expect reconciliation, mercy, some kind of forgiveness from him, although he has long ago lost to you in everything.

    This means that you yourself are afraid of your victory, and most likely, you don’t want any victories, because the elders, the dark lord and his friends can punish for victory; they have already warned the Russian elite more than once and can quite realistically take away their loot and taken outside the border!

    Therefore, there are no surprises, and all the actions of the Russian ruling layer, no matter how strange they may seem, are completely natural, and the reduction in gas prices for the Bandera-fascists is from this series.
    Moreover, this is not the first time, such love for the haters of Russia and Russians!
  91. 0
    April 2 2016 01: 01
    Quote: neo.
    On the contrary, they would increase it. Those who call us enemies and aggressors - no discounts. And those who sell our gas at Ukram would have been determined the quota needed to support the state, and the rest would be more expensive. I would look at ukroysterike!



    Well, this is too much, then the geyropa can follow the principle and let the gas be more expensive, but the purchases will come from mattress covers. As they say, to spite my mother I’ll freeze my ears. While our gas prices for Europe are very profitable in more than one state because of puddles and other places We are not being pushed out of the European continent. That is why we value compliance with all contracts as a reliable supplier.
  92. 0
    April 2 2016 11: 47
    For me, this Ukraine is going to hell.
  93. 0
    April 2 2016 11: 54
    Well, they’re not fools, though??! Ukrainians need to raise the price of gas by 2-3 times!!!! and not lower it!