In Greece, rebel migrants. How to Athens to stop the thousands of "refugees"?

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From Europe come all the new "exciting" newsrelated to the behavior of migrants and refugees from the countries of the Near and Middle East in receiving countries. A very difficult situation with migrants has now developed in Greece. It is this southern European country that has become one of the main transit points for migrants traveling through Turkey to Europe. Migrants travel to Greece by sea, after which they concentrate in the coastal areas of the country, primarily in the port of Piraeus.

On Wednesday evening, 30 March 2016, major clashes occurred in the port of Piraeus. This time, it was not policemen and migrants who fought against each other, and not Greek nationalists and migrants. Two large groups of refugees fought among themselves - people from Syria and from Afghanistan. As it turned out, the cause of the clashes, in which hundreds of Syrians and Afghans took part, was an incident related to the behavior of people from Afghanistan. A group of young Afghans with obscure intentions stuck to a young woman - a citizen of Syria. Her countrymen preferred to intervene for the Syrian. As a result, a scuffle began, in which about thirty people first took part, but then, closer to midnight, several hundred Afghan and Syrian men and boys ran. Syrians and Afghans did not just fight, but took stones, sticks and bottles in their hands. The windows in the passenger terminal of the port of Piraeus were broken. The fight lasted about three hours. Only after a sufficiently long time did police officers and special forces policemen arrive in Piraeus, who were quite serious in their efforts to separate the fighting refugees. After this incident, the Greek authorities are seriously discussing the possible division of refugees along ethnic lines, so that such conflicts will not recur. At least, this applies to Afghans and Syrians, who already have an opposition, at any moment able to resume.

In Greece, rebel migrants. How to Athens to stop the thousands of "refugees"?


Recall that there are currently about 6 thousands of refugees living in the port of Piraeus. Among them are people from Syria, Afghanistan, Iraq, a number of African countries. For only one 2015, more than 800 thousand people moved to Greece from the territory of neighboring Turkey. However, the majority of refugees do not intend to remain in poor Greece, but move further through its territory to the countries of Western and Northern Europe. It is there that they expect to find refuge and receive high social benefits. But the temporary stay of refugees in Greek territory also brings many problems and troubles to the authorities and the population of this country. The incident in Piraeus with a fight between Syrians and Afghans is just one example of the negative behavior of migrants. So, at the end of February, 2016, in one of the central squares of Athens, in front of numerous passers-by, two young men of eastern appearance tried to hang themselves. The people who ran up to them literally took the unfortunates out of the loop. As it turned out, two citizens of Pakistan, who, according to them, decided to commit suicide after they were desperate to cross the border of Greece with Macedonia, were unsuccessful suicides. By this way, by the way, the majority of migrants from Greece get to the countries of Central and Western Europe. 22 February 2016 Macedonia closed its southern border, after which it was possible to cross it only after a very thorough check. As a result, no more than 200 migrants per day pass into the territory of Macedonia, the rest are in Greece. What to do with the influx of migrants, the Greek government does not know. Although representatives of the country's leadership have repeatedly stated that Greece does not intend to turn into a “warehouse for migrants”, as long as the situation with the influx of migrants cannot be resolved in any way. As a result, refugee camps are located at Athens stadiums, and hot food distribution points are equipped. However, by itself, this situation cannot be maintained indefinitely.

Meanwhile, the economic situation in Greece and so is not prosperous. The country has been in a crisis zone for a long time, which affects the political sentiments of Greek society and, of course, its attitude to the influx of migrants and refugees. In addition, the Greek public is extremely dissatisfied with how migrants and refugees relate to the assistance offered to them. In particular, it was observed how migrants throw food in food centers, deployed by the Ministry of Defense of Greece. First of all, migrants and refugees from Muslim countries are trying to get rid of products that are considered "dirty" - first of all, those who, in their opinion, may contain pork. In addition, migrants and refugees also refuse from “tasteless” in their opinion, food, including lentil soup. The behavior of migrants and refugees contribute to the further growth of anti-migrant attitudes in Greek society. Against the background of a difficult situation with migrants, the popularity of nationalist organizations is growing in Greece, including the “Golden Dawn” party. Some activists of this organization received life sentences of imprisonment for participating in the murder of a famous singer - an anti-fascist. However, a more moderate part of party activists views the situation with migrants as an opportunity to increase party support from the Greek society. The Golden Dawn advocates the use of army units to block the borders of Greece and expel illegal migrants, including those who pretend to be refugees, outside the country, in reality they are not. The irritation of Greek society is also caused by the fact that migrants and refugees behave as if the Greeks are obliged to maintain them, provide food, shelter and, moreover, still engage in lobbying the interests of migrants - that is, to promote the opening of borders with neighboring Macedonia and etc.



Refugees and migrants penetrate into Greece from Turkey. They cross the Aegean Sea in boats and small boats, often the latter crash, killing several dozen people. So, 6 March 2016, in the Aegean Sea off the coast of the Turkish region Didim (Aydin province) sank a ship heading from Turkey to Greece. At least 25 people who were on board, including 13 children, died. Turkey, like Greece, also concentrated on its territory a large number of Syrian refugees, Afghan and Pakistani migrants. However, trying to solve the problem of refugees, the Turkish authorities are looking at how special buses deliver refugees and migrants to the coast and further, on boats and boats of illegal carriers, refugees and migrants try to cross the Aegean Sea and get to Europe. Although the European Union insists that Turkey pursues a more efficient policy of accommodating refugees on its territory, Ankara is cunning and dodging. As a result, refugees and migrants continue to penetrate into Europe and the Turkish authorities are not building any serious obstacles on their way.

The NATO command decided to deploy the combat duty of warships in the Aegean Sea to curb the activities of criminal groups organizing the illegal delivery of migrants. However, the Greeks themselves are dissatisfied with the results of the NATO special operation - it did not bring the expected results. Greek Prime Minister Alexis Tsipras told NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg that the special operation conducted by the forces of the alliance did not lead to a significant change in the migration situation. In addition, the dissatisfaction of Athens causes a blatant disregard for the EU’s decisions by the Turkish side. Despite the fact that the Greek government has repeatedly stated that all transports with migrants will immediately turn back to the shores of Turkey, attempts to penetrate the territory of Greece through the Aegean Sea continue and are massive, not episodic. 21 March 2016. The Greek government announced problems with Turkey’s compliance with the agreements on the issue of combating migrant penetration. Only on the day of March 20, 900 landed on the territory of the Greek island of Lesbos, who arrived in boats from the Turkish coast. The island of Lesbos is also called the “cemetery of nameless migrants”. In the past year alone, at least 3700 migrants from Asian and African countries sank off its shores, and about 2015 thousands of people landed on Lesbos in 500. They come from Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Libya, Egypt, Eritrea, Sudan, Somalia and a number of other countries with a dysfunctional political or economic situation.



After the agreement was signed on the return of migrants from EU countries to Turkey, 31 March 2016 in the center of Athens, about a thousand migrants took part in a protest action organized by local human rights and left-liberal organizations. They demand the opening of borders and emphasize that they do not want anything from Greece and the Greek government, but are counting on the help of large and richer European countries. The main demand of the protesters is to open the borders of Greece with other countries of the European Union. Meanwhile, migrants and refugees in the Idomeni camp on the border of Greece and Macedonia blocked the railroad tracks. They require the immediate opening of borders in order to follow from Greece to Austria and Germany. At present, only those who leave the belligerent Afghanistan, Iraq and Syria who have sufficient grounds for refugee status pass through the border along a special corridor. Residents of the rest of the “third world” countries, who are not refugees from the war, do not fall into this category and, accordingly, they are expected to repatriate to their homeland. However, this does not suit migrants, especially since many of them paid decent sums of money to illegal carriers by the standards of their countries in order to reach the shores of Europe.

Migrant groups began to throw stones at the police cordons. As in Athens, activists of human rights organizations, whom the Greek authorities simply call provocateurs, acted as “shotrs” of protests on the Greek-Macedonian border. Human rights organizations are actively taking advantage of the protest sentiments of the refugees in the Idomeni camp, and here, at least 12 thousand people gathered from the countries of the Near and Middle East. But the population of the village Idomeni is only 150 people. By the way, the riots in Idomeni are far from the first case of hooligan actions by migrants and refugees in camps in Greece. So, in January, 2016 in the center of temporary accommodation in Corinth, a group of several dozen migrants staged a riot, throwing stones at police officers and setting fire to mattresses in the premises of the camp. With these actions, migrants protested against the impending repatriation from the territory of Greece. 28 March 2016. Mass protests began on the island of Lesbos, where a large number of foreign citizens are housed in migrant camps. Recall that on the islands of Lesbos, Samos, Rhodes and Kastelorizo, according to the Greek authorities, there are 4289 migrants, of which more than half are on the island of Lesbos. The US State Department also intervened in the situation in Lesbos, which reminded the Greek government about the “inadmissibility of the violation of the rights of refugees”, even if Turkey violated the agreements with the European Union.

Given that Turkey is not taking any real action to curb the illegal entry of migrants from its territory into Europe, the Greek government does not know what to do to successfully resolve the current situation with migrants. To contain a large number of migrants on its territory is a very problematic task for Greece, which is experiencing far from the best of times. The financial assistance of the European Union also does not give the desired results, since there are still not enough funds for all migrants. In addition, migrants create a lot of problems for residents of the country, affecting the social and criminal situation in Greek society.

There is also great doubt about the practical side of the implementation of the agreements between Turkey and the European Union on the expulsion of migrants. Firstly, it is very difficult to carry out legal support for deportation, since the case of each migrant must be considered individually, which requires a very large number of lawyers and considerable time. Secondly, the expulsion of migrants is a very large material costs. Thirdly, the implementation of the expulsion will require tough actions by law enforcement agencies and special services, which will cause a negative reaction from human rights organizations, and most importantly, the same United States, which is the main “lobbyist” of the presence of refugees and migrants in the European Union. But the main problem is that the flow of refugees and migrants cannot be stopped without ending wars and normalizing the political and economic situation in the countries of Asia and Africa, which are the main sources of migration. While European countries are concerned only with the placement or deportation of already existing refugees and migrants, more and more new groups of immigrants arrive, and bloody wars continue in the latter’s home countries, the population lives in extreme poverty, political chaos reigns.
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  1. -1
    April 1 2016 05: 42
    The simplest question cannot be resolved. request Well, let them mess with them, if you like it.
    1. 0
      April 1 2016 05: 58
      Yes, it’s much easier, they say give MONEY more and just that. Even in Germany the wallet is not rubber and taxpayers are already at the limit of tolerance.
    2. +5
      April 1 2016 06: 11
      Quote: Corporal
      The simplest question cannot be resolved. request Well, let them mess with them, if you like it.

      Yes, you just have tocomply with YOUR own laws: do not let people without visas and prevent the violation of borders, send back to Turkey.
    3. +3
      April 1 2016 07: 54
      corporal (4)
      The simplest question cannot be solved

      The question is no longer the simplest one, everything is too neglected. And “thank you very much” for this should be said to the Brussels officials and separately to Merkel, who decided that she is not only the new partaigenosse of Germany, but of the whole of Europe. And with the promises of Turkey, it will break off in full.
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    5. 0
      April 1 2016 11: 40
      How to solve the problem? Exit the EU and join the EAEU. Refugees in Kyrgyzstan and Kazakhstan (similar in language). laughing Let them temporarily master warm and spacious yurts with satellite Internet. Everything is better than sleeping on the ground or on the station floor. And there it is.
      1. +1
        April 1 2016 12: 14
        Quote: siberalt
        How to solve the problem? Exit the EU and join the EAEU. Refugees in Kyrgyzstan and Kazakhstan (similar in language). Let them temporarily master warm and spacious yurts with satellite Internet.

        Offset offer! good But it is unlikely that Kyrgyzstan or Kazakhstan are close to refugees in language: there are Arabs, Somalis, Afghans ... what Unless among the Afghans, Uzbeks are found.
        And about migrants, they recently demonstrated the newly opened center for the reception of labor migrants in the suburbs. There on the screen were shown the numbers with the number of labor migrants in Russia who were registered OFFICIALLY. so in March there were about 9,5 million of them. I think there will be even more unofficial ones!
        And in Europe over the past year, three slightly more than 2,5 million have arrived - and so many problems ... Apparently, because they don’t work, but go for free.
      2. 0
        April 1 2016 23: 53
        Quote: siberalt
        Refugees in Kyrgyzstan and Kazakhstan (close in language)

        Two with a minus! Not just not close - these are different language family: if by language, then the Syrians - to the Saudis (who really have something for that!), and the Afghans - to Iran (there they will be quickly taught to them!)
    6. 0
      April 1 2016 12: 35
      The simplest question cannot be resolved.
      -------------------------------
      Oops on! Come on! tell me the solution. Oh, even it seems to me that your answer will be in the spirit of one notorious corporal with bangs: =)
      PySy. Although, it seems to me, in Europe they have been thinking about this for a long time. But they don’t want anyone in the Hague: =)
      1. +4
        April 1 2016 15: 40
        Quote: guzik007
        The simplest question cannot be resolved.
        -------------------------------
        Oops on! Come on! tell me the solution.

        Yes, do not reinvent the wheel, you only need:
        1. To abandon the policy of double standards (this is when for Russia and Russians it means embargoes, sanctions and the strictest migration control, and for all the others - even if only yesterday they got off the tree - everything that the soul does not want).
        2. Not to bring issues of migration policy for public discussion (this is when the first "refugees" were greeted in Germany with placards), but to be guided by issues of national policy and security.
        3. If the situation gets out of the control of the administrative bodies, do not hesitate to use the appropriate forceful methods - after all, it is for this that the people maintain the so-called law enforcement agencies. But the story of the rapes has shown quite well who these same bodies are protecting (and something no one howls about “raped Germany.” This is also a question of double standards).
        4. And last, and hardest: stop asking in Washington how to live in your own country.

        Now about the corporal with the bangs. Do not forget that in many ways he managed to come to power and stay in it on the wave of himself and the wave of nationalism and racial intolerance provoked by him. In the current conditions, it is no longer necessary to invent anything, the Arabs and the Negroes themselves tried to prepare the ground for a massacre on interracial and interreligious grounds to begin. The matter is small: will there be a leader and will the masses support him. If so, then the reincarnation of Nazism at the head of the "Fuhrer 2.0" is quite possible.
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  3. +1
    April 1 2016 06: 16
    The striped dreams come true to wreak havoc on the old woman of Europe, and now she is unlikely to return to her former course now and this seems to be just the beginning of the collapse ...
  4. 0
    April 1 2016 06: 36
    Population migration has always been a business, big money is spinning there, and the money is not only business but also the USA and the EU. At the same time, each pursuing his own and his own goals in no way preoccupied with the consequences. And the emigrant remains extreme, the money received and forgot about him and woe to that state in whose territory he settled, even temporarily.
  5. +4
    April 1 2016 06: 40
    But the main problem is that the flow of refugees and migrants cannot be stopped without ending the wars and normalizing the political and economic situation in Asia and Africa... So they’re not going to solve this problem, but rather aggravate .. And the exit for Greece from the EU and NATO to leave ...
    1. +1
      April 1 2016 15: 44
      Yes, everything is decided in two seconds. The same mistrals are taken, and all the afro snouts caught on the streets darker than a certain shade of skin are delivered to the port, and when filled with macaques - to the shore of friendly Libya, it’s good to sail there is nothing.

      And the coastal waters patrol boats with machine guns that let all these boats sink to the bottom, by the way, the coast guard of Malta acts.
  6. +1
    April 1 2016 07: 25
    In addition, migrants create a lot of problems for the inhabitants of the country, influencing the social and criminal situation in Greek society.

    The Greeks get the most, the campaign. But then more! It will be a great mess.
  7. +5
    April 1 2016 08: 46
    It goes to machine guns and mass deportation.
    1. +1
      April 1 2016 11: 32
      Quote: Kenneth
      It goes to machine guns and mass deportation.

      good
      Beauty and mass executions will save the world.
  8. 0
    April 1 2016 09: 15
    Greece had few economic problems associated with huge debt.
    So now the problem of refugees was also assigned to her.
    It is for this that the EU is accepting new members in order to shift the main burden of resolving more and more problems of this community onto them ...
    1. 0
      April 1 2016 11: 27
      I would say that now in Old Lady Geyrope there is an acute question not about accepting new members, but about getting rid of some of the members accepted. How to make partial amputation so that the whole organism (EU) does not fall apart.
  9. +1
    April 1 2016 09: 55
    That play out in democracy. Frau and a hedgehog with her from the stands are simple, but these people cannot understand the simple thing - Arabs, Asians, Negroes have their own mentality, each of them has its own and its own currents of Islam. Such skirmishes, the growth of crime, had to be predicted in advance and prepared in advance for this. Here are the terrorists - prepared, but Europe not. Erdogan in Turkey will not allow this, though by his own method, but for the euro money.
  10. +1
    April 1 2016 10: 13
    Yes, you don’t have to talk with them, they live in the Middle Ages and you need to deal with them accordingly. When they come to your house to rob, kill, rape - you need to defend yourself. And do not care about democracy.
    1. +3
      April 1 2016 11: 03
      Quote: Ozhogin Dmitry
      Yes, you don’t have to talk with them, they live in the Middle Ages and you need to deal with them accordingly. When they come to your house to rob, kill, rape - you need to defend yourself. And do not care about democracy.

      We are very close to them.
      The whole thing is that Europeans are very used to comfort and crowds of foreign revolutions cause them surprise. In our country, this process has been going on for a long time and the people are as if used to it.
      In Moscow, 20 ISIS recruiters were arrested recently. Recruiters!
      The question is, where are the recruits? Why they were not captured.
      The answer is simple.
      They spoiled them. The recruits scattered across the expanses of the homeland, possibly receiving tasks.
      Among whom they were recruited.
      And among 20 million visitors from the countries of the underdeveloped near and far abroad.
      Our problem is no less acute.
  11. 0
    April 1 2016 11: 09
    the tendency however ... where there are human rights defenders at the refugees, there are riots ... something similar happened during the Chechen events. And even in the situation in Greece it is clear where human rights defenders are being fed from ...
  12. +4
    April 1 2016 11: 51
    Even if you end the wars in Africa and the Middle East, or not, the situation will not change dramatically, except that the scale will become smaller. Arabs and blacks felt the taste of European freebies and saw the weakness of the old European woman, so they are greedy beyond measure. In general, these "refugees" remind me more of an unbridled gang of thugs who escaped from the zone.
  13. +1
    April 1 2016 12: 48
    To me this whole situation between Europe and migrants reminds me of the mythical "Trojan horse" which the Danians left at the gates of Troy wink
  14. +2
    April 1 2016 14: 49
    Quote: siberalt
    How to solve the problem? Exit the EU and join the EAEU. Refugees in Kyrgyzstan and Kazakhstan (similar in language). laughing Let them temporarily master warm and spacious yurts with satellite Internet. Everything is better than sleeping on the ground or on the station floor. And there it is.

    Yeah, so that they rush to us later. We have enough of our own "refugees", such as guest workers.
  15. 0
    April 1 2016 14: 53
    Quote: vega
    That play out in democracy. Frau and a hedgehog with her from the stands are simple, but these people cannot understand the simple thing - Arabs, Asians, Negroes have their own mentality, each of them has its own and its own currents of Islam. Such skirmishes, the growth of crime, had to be predicted in advance and prepared in advance for this. Here are the terrorists - prepared, but Europe not. Erdogan in Turkey will not allow this, though by his own method, but for the euro money.

    But the Turks are generally well done, they threw the Germans into the loot and forgot. I won’t be surprised if they still ask for money soon, they will say that they didn’t give much and after all they will give sausages, they will not go anywhere.
  16. +1
    April 1 2016 20: 53
    You don’t even know who to regret migrants or Greeks ... And both of them had a dream come true, migrants came to Europe, Greeks joined NATO and the EU. For what they fought ... as they say. This is like a woman who had long dreamed of hard sex ... endure and wave. By the way, gangbang only grows, and we will see many more interesting poses.
    1. +2
      April 1 2016 23: 12
      Quote: Barkhan
      You don’t even know who to regret migrants or Greeks ...

      No one. You yourself said:
      And those and others have a dream come true
      So all of them can be congratulated.
  17. 0
    April 2 2016 11: 41
    take a cruise ship (for 3-4 thousand passengers and about the same number of crews), cram there 15-20 thousand. migrants and heading for the states .... their reaction will be interesting