Syrian Palmyra helped to release TOC-1A

The ancient Syrian city was helped by the government forces to liberate the heavy sun-throwers "Sunshine", reports Messenger of Mordovia With reference to the video posted on the network.

“As you know, these systems have tremendous destructive power, but specifically in the Palmyra military operation, the Solntseki were used exclusively for the positions of terrorists of the ISIS group banned in Russia outside historical parts of the city and beyond the residential area, ”notes the author of the article, Lev Romanov.

Moreover, according to his data, “in most cases in the Palmyra TOC-1A area, as a rule, they did not launch salvo attacks, but hit a small number of missiles at the identified targets of the terrorists.”



Technical characteristics of the system: “Mass - 44,3 t, speed - up to 60 km / h, power reserve - 500 km, crew - 3 people. Armament: multi-launch launcher, number of guide tubes - 24, firing range minimum - 400 m, maximum - 6000 m, full salvo time - 6 sec. "

Comments

[Kars]

And what about the Sunlight are the usual tracks from the T-72?

[Pravdarm]

Spring is just coming
"Sunshine" brings summer closer!
Independently raise the temperature.
The Babai are reminded of the approach of Hell.

[kagorta]

Not lamb

[Cananecat]

And what do you need?

[79807420129]

Quote: Kars

And what about the Sunlight are the usual tracks from the T-72?

Do you want from "Armata"?

[DMB_95]

If the "Solntsepёk" was created on the basis of the T-72, do we need other tracks?

[opus]

Quote: DMB_95

If "Solntsepёk" was created on the basis of the T-72,

based on the T-72A (Object 176) / Pinocchio on the T-72 ohm)

[Ezhaak]

Quote: Kars

And what about the Sunlight are the usual tracks from the T-72?

TOS-1A "Solntsepek" is a modification of TOS-1 "Pinocchio", a heavy flamethrower system of volley fire based on the T-72 tank. And why change the tracks, if not secret?

[Kars]

You do not ask me this.
But it’s important for me to distinguish Pinocchio and Solntsepek

[Evgeny RS]

We understand)))

[Ezhaak]

Quote: Kars

But it’s important for me to distinguish Pinocchio and Solntsepek

by the number of guide trunks. Pinocchio - 30 trunks, Sun - 24. It’s so simple.
PS Buratino’s transport-loading vehicle is wheeled, sort of like the Urals, and Solntsepyok’s also based on the T-72.

[Velya]

to easily distinguish them - just look at the packages of guides: "Buratino" has 30 of them, and "Solntsepek" - 24.

[Fregate]

Quote: Kars

You do not ask me this.
But it’s important for me to distinguish Pinocchio and Solntsepek

Pinocchio has 30 tensioners, Solntsepek 24. Chassis for our army take the t-72, apparently to reduce the cost (we have a lot of them). For Azerbaijan, in my opinion, they put it on the t-90.

[Ros 56]

And what effect do trucks have on the combat characteristics of TOS-1A?

[RUSIVAN]

Yes, yes, I have the same question, And what's the difference, it won't make it easier for babaykans to take them into account ... but for someone it is very important to see on which tracks "Solntsepek"

[genisis]

Kars, you reminded me of a joke:

The inspector stops the car in which two friends are sitting:
- Your documents.
- You are welcome. Tell me, now that the Heroes of the Soviet Union are also subject to administrative responsibility?
- Sorry, bon voyage.
Drive off, one friend to another:
“I didn’t know that you were a GSS.”
- Yes, I just asked

[Appraiser]

I apologize, and what tracks should be? After all, the basic chassis for the TOS-1A product is the T-72 tank!

[Aleksey_K]

Quote: Kars

And what about the Sunlight are the usual tracks from the T-72?

And not only trucks. The sun is based on the T-72 tank.

[Kars]

Quote: Алексей_К

The sun is based on the T-72 tank.

And I thought on the basis of T-90A

[CALL.]

Quote: Kars

And what about the Sunlight are the usual tracks from the T-72?

So Solntsepek made on the basis of the T-72.

[opus]

Quote: Kars

And what about the Sunlight are the usual tracks from the T-72?

from T-72A

I really do not know mb interchangeably? One step seems to be one?

as well as tracks with RMSh from T-72 - they were also installed on the T-62M

[Kars]

That's why it's interesting))

[tiredwithall]

Most likely not fried, but flattened. Something like chicken chicken.

[tiredwithall]

"In addition, according to his data," in most cases, in the Palmyra region, TOS-1A, as a rule, were not delivered with salvo strikes, but were hit with a small number of rockets at the identified targets of the terrorists. "
Well, TOS-14 has become a high-precision weapon. Survived ...

[avt]

Quote: tiredwithall

Well, TOS-14 has become a high-precision weapon. Survived ...

We lived, really lived up to the "Tornado G", God forbid we will live to see the massive "Tornado S" and "Tornado U".

[NEXUS]

Quote: avt

We lived, really lived up to the "Tornado G", God forbid we will live to see the massive "Tornado S" and "Tornado U".

As far as I understand, Iskander also appeared in Syria. And something tells me that the world will fall silent for the second time when the "Macedonian" shows itself in action.

[dogens]

Quote: NEXUS

when "Macedonian" shows itself in action.

Sorry, I tried to google it, but what is it? who is it? if not military secret. Well, unless of course we are not talking about the thunderstorm of the peoples of Sashka of Macedon.

[NEXUS]

Quote: dogens

Sorry, I tried to google it, but what is it? who is it? if not military secret. Well, unless of course we are not talking about the thunderstorm of the peoples of Sashka of Macedon.

Alexander the Great in the Muslim world was calledIskander Zulkarnain. And the complex is named after him. Hence the "Macedonian".

[dogens]

All is clear, thank you.)

[FenH]

Quote: NEXUS

Quote: avt

We lived, really lived up to the "Tornado G", God forbid we will live to see the massive "Tornado S" and "Tornado U".

As far as I understand, Iskander also appeared in Syria. And something tells me that the world will fall silent for the second time when the "Macedonian" shows itself in action.

They write that it may be a photograph of "Bastion":
A closer look at the launcher revealed that it could be the Bastion’s coastal missile system.

“In any case, there should be our systems, since the Bastions (wheel) arches set for Syria several years ago were exactly round,” wrote Lyamin.

[avt]

Quote: NEXUS

As I understand it, Iskanders also appeared in Syria.

Rather, Bastion, well, it’s more logical, but again it’s difficult to judge by this photo.

[NEXUS]

Quote: avt

Rather, Bastion, well, it’s more logical, but again it’s difficult to judge by this photo.

It’s just more logical than Iskander. ISIS does not have a fleet, and the Bastions will be needed if the Turks conceive a ground operation, which is unlikely while our VKS are there. But Racca will have to take a lot of blood, which I would not want. It is much more convenient from a distance of 500 km beat Iskanders, knocking out dushmans in a clean field, where Solntsepek and our helicopters will be waiting for them with an orchestra, flowers and songs.

[DMB_95]

Efficiency (and accuracy including) depends on the professionalism of the crew. There are not Syrian militias sitting under armor.

[Ezhaak]

Quote: tiredwithall

Well, TOS-14 has become a high-precision weapon

And what kind of weapon it is, translate it into Russian. I know TOZ-14, but I have no idea about TOS-14. Yes, and "highsewage"to go nuts!

[Ezhaak]

Quote: Hedgehog

And what kind of weapon is this, translate into Russian.

And not one of the minusrators explained what TOS-14 is.

[kebeskin]

CBT Heavy Flamethrower System

[Cat man null]

Quote: kebeskin

CBT Heavy Flamethrower System

This, sorry, and a hedgehog .. is known .. the question was

Quote: Hedgehog

And what kind of weapon is this, translate into Russian. I know TOZ-14, but I don’t have a clue about TOS-14

The point is that "TOS-14" does not exist in nature. Generally. There's no such thing

[Ezhaak]

Either read kebeskin or be silent. What is TOS-14? Russian on white!

[Lopatov]

Quote: Hedgehog

What is TOS-14

This is a missprint.

[Ezhaak]

Quote: Spade

This is a missprint.

I do not believe! (K.S. Stanislavsky)
Although, about "vysokostochnoe", it is likely. But not about TOS-14

[pilot8878]

What TOS-14 is, I don’t know, but about a high-precision weapon, I’ll assume that this is the type of weapon from which various substances start to flow from the remaining barmel men from their pants, while the process is not controlled by either the brain or the sphincter. As a result, the barmalei begin to drain uncontrollably into the sewers, burrows and other ways seep from the zone of operation of high-precision weapons away.

[Bulrumeb]

Well, TOS-14 has become a high-precision weapon. Survived ...

Apparently there were so many baboons there that the impact by a small number of rockets was targeted, especially since it was outside the development zones.

[tiredwithall]

Your version is quite viable.

[Lopatov]

Quote: tiredwithall

Well, TOS-14 has become a high-precision weapon. Survived ...

And they were originally intended to be just that.
As a kind of analogue of "Sturmtiger". With the main method of application - semi-direct fire. For example, during the assault on the Komsomolsk "Buratino", he shot exclusively single

It was only later, in the course of modernization, that the MLRS capabilities of TOS began to consistently improve and expand.
There is a modernized version of "Solntsepёk", which is already ahead of "Grada" in accuracy.

[tiredwithall]

I really didn’t think that it was effective to shoot single-handedly from TOC. As always, the operators make their own significant adjustments.

[Lopatov]

Why not, if you observe a target? They were not in vain done on a tank chassis.

And in general, in settlements with the direct support of the volley in most cases is excessive.

[hartlend]

Naturally, if military equipment is available, it is used in hostilities. A strange article, just some kind of PR. The flamethrower is powerful, but it shoots lightly, lightly. As in a joke, tanks fly low-low.

[Taygerus]

The bearded will know what a Russian tan is, so that from now on it would not be common

[gergi]

Wonderful shaitan-arba. Amused the barmalei. When the sun begins to work, bearded hoopoes tear claws so that the soles fly off. Those who did not have time to escape, their fried carcasses are still lying in the sun. Very effective weapon.

[alex-cn]

I don’t remember, the bearded ones then go to heaven? It seems to be not ...

[rotmistr60]

And Russia does not hide the fact that, among other things, it is helping the Syrian army with weapons, equipment and advisers. Therefore, the appearance of "Solntsepek" (photographs have appeared before) is not surprising.

[jjj]

Seamlessly transferred the conflict to the Vietnamese scenario with all the consequences for the adversary

[ALEA IACTA EST]

The beard of the basmachs was set on fire.

[Igluxnumx]

Very effective weapon.
We will not gloat. But there is a feeling of satisfaction.

[Same lech]

The greatest effect of its unguided rockets in thermobaric equipment is achieved in mountain conditions: due to the mutual superposition of air shock waves and their multiple reflection from surrounding rocks, the destruction of soil and stone blockages. Ammunition creates a cloud of explosive mixture and then undermines it, causing all the oxygen in the cloud to enter into this reaction. After instant detonation, the pressure rises sharply, and then drops below atmospheric by about 160 mmHg. Thus, even if the enemy managed to survive after the explosion, the pressure drop leads to his guaranteed death from a rupture of internal organs.

There is no sense in sitting stupidly on the defensive anyway .... they will burn it anyway ... therefore the militants are fleeing.
Our specialists skillfully take advantage of this formidable weapon ... it would be nice to make a more mobile option ... something like a jeep with a smaller reactive installation.

[bk316]

Quote: The same LYOKHA

and then falls below atmospheric by about 160 mmHg.

Comrade Marshal, explain how pressure can drop 160 mm BELOW atmospheric, if atmospheric 70 mm? There is no negative pressure in the gas.
Maybe it falls by 160 mm relative to what was at the time of the increase after the explosion?

[Cat man null]

Quote: bk316

atmospheric 70 mm?

Mdja ...

[Lopatov]

Quote: bk316

if atmospheric 70 mm?

Zero toe lost.
In general, in artillery, the normal / tabular pressure is 750. It is easier to remember.

[Lopatov]

Quote: The same LYOKHA

Ammunition creates a cloud of explosive mixture and then undermines it

This is not about thermobaric ammunition. They are single-cycle, no "cloud creation" with subsequent detonation.

[Vyacheslav73]

A good thing ... charged with thermobaric and ... I’ll save neither bearded nor beardless in the region of falling shells ...

[Lanista]

As a result of the use of TOS, new monuments have appeared in Palmyra. True, not antique, but modern, in the style of progress art. For example, the monument "Terrorist in a sand cube melted down to glass", the installation "Fried ISIS", the sculpture "Heat-treated Turkish mercenary".

[lysyj bob]

And fire on anti-tank infantry ATGMs? .. (on video) Was it they removed for the show or is this a common practice?

[Alexey RA]

Quote: lysyj bob

And fire on anti-tank infantry ATGMs? .. (on video) Was it they removed for the show or is this a common practice?

This practice was started by the Yankees back in Afghanistan. It turned out that it’s cheaper and faster to spend 1 ATGM on a woman than to pick it out with infantry or artillery, simultaneously spreading everything around.

[Lopatov]

Quote: lysyj bob

And fire on anti-tank infantry ATGMs? .. (on video) Was it they removed for the show or is this a common practice?

Plain. Not only that, initially inherent in all ATGMs. For example, in artillery preparation for an attack, they must defeat targets at the forefront. First of all, bunker / bunker

[lysyj bob]

Well, bunkers and all that - it’s understandable, the Yankees in Afghanistan - too, they print bucks in cars. But in an open field for individual fighters ... A volley of 122-mm battery will cost much less.

[alex-cn]

122 not everywhere you can drag. Our Chechen fighters from the opposite side of the gorge also got ATGMs.

[Lopatov]

Quote: lysyj bob

Well, bunkers and all that - it’s clear

If you think that there is a special difference between the bunker / bunker and the firing point in the building, you are mistaken.

Quote: lysyj bob

A volley of 122 mm battery will cost less.

Longer, and possibly more expensive. Single, point targets for barreled artillery when firing from closed targets are very inconvenient.

[Alexey RA]

Quote: lysyj bob

A volley of 122 mm battery will cost less.

Remember ammunition consumption rates for typical targets?
To destroy one openly located gun or anti-tank system requires at least 300 122 mm shells. To destroy openly located manpower, and standing still - at least 40 122 mm shells per hectare. For the destruction of a single unarmored target (an open-standing gun or ATGM) - 300 122 mm shells.

Actually, the Soviet Union was so fond of assault guns in that war (instead of self-propelled howitzers for firing with a PDO) precisely because they spent an order of magnitude less direct-fire guns. ATGM spends missiles even less.

[Mama_Cholli]

I read somewhere that during the Second World War our soldiers of flamethrowers were not taken prisoner.

[alex-cn]

Generally, in the Red Army there were knapsack flamethrowers, and the "distant ancestor" of "lynxes" and "bumblebees" - an ampulomet, which fired ampoules from the COP.

[Same lech]

Generally, in the Red Army there were knapsack flamethrowers, and the "distant ancestor" of "lynxes" and "bumblebees" - an ampulomet, which fired ampoules from the COP.

There was an article on HBO about this ...

http://topwar.ru/581-ampulomet-zabytoe-oruzhie-vov.html/

This ampule is a dangerous thing ... reckless movement or an accidental bullet and shooter burns with a blue flame.

[Lopatov]

How to get them? Without a knapsack, it is unclear who it is. And with it you need to shoot, which naturally led to the transformation of the flame thrower into a torch.

[Olezhek]

Moreover, according to his data, “in most cases, in the Palmyra TOC-1А area, as a rule, not salvo strikes, but hit a small number of rockets at identified targets terrorists. "

As if replacing receiver artillery?

[Alexey RA]

Quote: Olezhek

As if replacing receiver artillery?

Rather, replacing the assault artillery. Armored vehicle with powerful ammunition, designed to work almost direct fire - a new incarnation of the StormSAU NPP.
The Syrians, Pomnitsa, used Carnations and Acacia for direct fire to support the infantry.

By the way, in the Chechen campaign, the TOS worked the same way - not with full salvos, but with 2-4 missiles for a specific purpose.

[Silman1985]

They were used in combat conditions, and not at training grounds, the thing is murderous, sorry there is no video.

[NEXUS]

Our robots should be tested at this training ground. This theater of operations is the best possible test of new combat systems. And we will surprise the world and bring the equipment to mind based on combat experience.

[Anchonsha]

Once again we tested our "Solntsepek" There we would have to send our imperfect robots to test for sure.

[kill the fascist]

against fighting a not-so-long-range adversary of the TOS, of course, an effective thing, in addition to direct damage, is also terribly catching on the survivors :)

[Alex von Dorn]

Great weapon, but the 6000 range is somehow annoying ... It will not be enough.

[Aleksey_K]

Quote: Alex von Dorn

Great weapon, but the 6000 range is somehow annoying ... It will not be enough.

For longer range, the Uragan MLRS with thermobaric ammunition and a range of up to 13 km is used, as well as the Smerch MLRS with thermobaric ammunition and a range of up to 70 km.

[AdekvatNICK]

Imagine that you feel when you know that the enemy who is going to reside has a sun))) a little point agree))

[loki565]

Quote: Kars

And what about the Sunlight are the usual tracks from the T-72?

There are no ionic gravitational tracks from antimatter on it

[koshmarik]

The "Solntsepek" has ammunition for the "volumetric explosion" in ammunition - a terrible thing. I saw it at the test site - no atomic bomb is needed.

[vobels]

It got warmer in Syria, "Solntsepek" came, and the same kirdyk came to the babays!

[PPD]

Pinocchio guy is kind, helpful! And always ready to help.

[Bort radist]

In the video at 3.02, the native speech of the adjustment is "five hours".

[Trigger-Happy]

Aha, and at 4:11 some strange Syrian sits on the right.

[123321]

Something like this.............

[dchegrinec]

Therefore, probably part of the knowledgeable Basmachi rushed from Palmyra on the eve of the assault, they did not want to take a steam bath in the "bathhouse"! The "caliphate" quickly ended at the sight of the "Russian stove"!