Digital equipment of the Russian Tu-154М observation aircraft will be checked by experts from 18 countries

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A group of 50 experts representing the 18 countries of the Open Sky Treaty countries will conduct a preliminary survey of digital equipment installed on the Tu-154 Лк-1 observation aircraft, reports MIC With reference to Sergey Ryzhkov, Head of the Russian Center for Reducing Nuclear Hazards.



“As part of the implementation of the International Treaty on Open Skies, in the period from March 27 to April 4, the Russian Federation will take measures for the preliminary survey of digital surveillance equipment installed on the Tu-154М Лк-1 aircraft ... 50 experts arrive in Russia to participate in the preliminary survey from the 18 States Parties to the Treaty, ”Ryzhkov said.

The survey “will take place at the Kubinka airfield near Moscow, where meetings with equipment developers will be organized, during which foreign experts will receive detailed answers to their questions,” he said.

“Testing flights are also planned there. In case of adverse weather conditions for flights, airfields in Armavir and Maikop will be involved, ”Ryzhkov added.

“These events are stipulated by the Treaty, and in essence is the first stage of preparation for the examination of digital surveillance equipment on the Tu-154 Лк-1 aircraft, which is planned to be held in June 2016,” the head of the Center explained.

He stressed that these events "will allow Western partners to ensure that Russian digital surveillance equipment fully complies with the requirements of the Treaty."

“The contract was signed in Helsinki on March 24 of 1994 of the year, and now the participants are 34 states,” Ryzhkov recalled.

“In recent years, the Treaty has significantly evolved. Now the stage of improving its material and technical base is underway - the transition to digital technologies. Russia has become a pioneer in this business, having created not only its own digital camera, but also having conducted a successful international certification of the Russian An-2013B aircraft in September 30, which has been flying with digital equipment since 2014, ”he said.

According to Ryzhkov, domestic manufacturers have created “a universal complex, whose components can be used both on An-30Б observation aircraft and on Tu-154 Лк-1 aircraft”.

“A similar approach was used in the creation of a universal ground-based data processing complex obtained from digital surveillance equipment,” he noted.
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  1. +14
    27 March 2016 14: 19
    Yes, unfortunately we are lagging behind in the construction of civilian aircraft ... Tu-154 is outdated both morally and physically .. And its successors such as Tu-204 are not brought to mind. So it turns out that we put modern equipment on outdated equipment. Even the most modern Russian anti-submarine aircraft is an outdated IL! and you can blame me but you can’t argue with the facts ...
    1. +29
      27 March 2016 14: 32
      I guess, yes. But compared with the fact that Bredlav suggests flying on the U-2, it’s not so outdated, it turns out wink
      But it is with civil aviation that it is bad with us. Expensive to us cheap imported recyclables.
      1. +11
        27 March 2016 14: 52
        “The contract was signed in Helsinki on March 24 of 1994 of the year, and now the participants are 34 states,” Ryzhkov recalled.

        And will they come for an examination, all in all, representatives of 18 states? With this approach, the remaining 16 states may at any time prohibit us from monitoring their territory - as Turkey did. I wonder which states decided not to participate in this test of our aircraft equipment? Something tells me that the United States will not be on this list, and not just them.
        1. +2
          27 March 2016 15: 09
          Quote: СРЦ П-15
          And will they come for an examination, all in all, representatives of 18 states?

          - the commission will arrive, which formed by all participating states No agreement?

          Quote: СРЦ П-15
          I wonder which states decided not to participate in this test of our aircraft equipment?

          - But why did you decide that there are generally such states? Well then sabotage then uniform turns out .. an occasion for reactions, diplomatic, at least ..

          Quote: СРЦ П-15
          Something tells me that the United States will not be on this list, and not only them

          There is such a horse, the name is Spirology .. IMHO, he grazes here somewhere nearby Yes
          1. +3
            27 March 2016 15: 21
            Quote: Cat Man Null
            - the commission will come, which was formed by the States parties to the Treaty, no?

            This is where you read this? If a commission formed from all the participating countries arrived, then they would write: a group of experts representing 34 countries party to the Treaty, and not 18.
            The only thing that could be is that the next group of experts will come in the summer. - This is more likely, but then it was necessary to write in the article, and not to mislead people.
            1. +2
              27 March 2016 16: 05
              Quote: СРЦ П-15
              This is where you read this?

              Nowhere. I thought so, so IMH stuck there .. she's a PMSM Yes

              Quote: SRC P-15
              If a commission formed from all the participating countries arrived, then and would write: Group of experts representing 34 Contracting Parties

              - A competent journalist would have written like that, you are right .. only where are they now, literate? crying

              Quote: СРЦ П-15
              The only thing that could be is that the next group of experts will come in summer

              - maybe not the point .. this is more interesting, KVM:

              Quote: Article
              The Russian Federation will hold events on preliminary survey of digital surveillance equipment

              - that is - a rehearsal, "training flight", as you want to call it
              - who is involved in it - but not the point. Who wants, he participates
              - but on this examination there should already be a commission representing all member countries of the Treaty.

              IMHO so Yes
        2. gjv
          0
          27 March 2016 18: 14
          Quote: СРЦ П-15
          And will they come for an examination, all in all, representatives of 18 states? With this approach, the remaining 16 states may at any time prohibit us from monitoring their territory - as Turkey did. I wonder which states decided not to participate in this test of our aircraft equipment?

          They themselves answered - Turkey. And also such parties to the agreement as Georgia, Ukraine.
          Why, for example, participate in the survey of the union state - Belarus?
          I don’t want to offend anyone, but in some participating States there simply may not be experts of sufficient qualifications.
        3. 0
          27 March 2016 22: 57
          Quote: СРЦ П-15
          Digital equipment of the Russian Tu-154М observation aircraft will be checked by experts from 18 countries

          Quote: SRC P-15
          “The contract was signed in Helsinki on March 24 of 1994 of the year, and now the participants are 34 states,” Ryzhkov recalled.

          And will they come for an examination, all in all, representatives of 18 states? With this approach, the remaining 16 states may at any time prohibit us from monitoring their territory - as Turkey did. I wonder which states decided not to participate in this test of our aircraft equipment? Something tells me that the United States will not be on this list, and not just them.


          There, the US has already warned in advance:
          Attempts to break the certification of the Russian Tu-154M Lk-1 surveillance aircraft will hit the viability of the Open Skies Treaty (DON), says Russian Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova.
          More details here: http: //vegchel.ru/index.php? Newsid = 22708
      2. +2
        27 March 2016 21: 19
        Recyclable materials are secondary, the main thing is that liberalists are expensive for us. And after all, nothing can calm down.
    2. +5
      27 March 2016 14: 46
      Quote: Article
      These measures are provided for by the Agreement, and in its essence is the first stage of preparation for the examination of digital surveillance equipment on the Tu-154M Lk-1 aircraft, which is scheduled to be held in June 2016.

      Quote: Magic Archer
      Yes, unfortunately we are behind in the construction of civil aircraft ... Tu-154 is outdated both morally and physically ... So it turns out that we put modern equipment on outdated equipment

      Everything seems to be correct ... only - but what does this have to do with the article, which, in fact, is about the "certification" of the observation equipment developed in the Russian Federation for the "Open Sky" program? belay

      It’s absolutely all the same, on which plane to put this equipment Yes

      I'm losing weight, dear edition .. sad
      1. +2
        27 March 2016 14: 55
        Quote: Cat Man Null
        I'm losing weight, dear edition.

        It seems like a shaggy friend - people not only stop reading articles themselves, but article titles laughing
        Digital equipment of the Russian Tu-154М observation aircraft will be checked by experts from 18 countries


        That's right, why the extra steps - immediately comment on commentators - (the article itself did not read) lol
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          1. +1
            27 March 2016 15: 01
            Quote: Cat Man Null
            Excuse me, who was this?

            Dull in the evening, please, Roman? recourse
        2. 0
          27 March 2016 15: 30
          Quote: Vitwin
          Quote: Cat Man Null
          Excuse me, who was this?
          Dull in the evening, please, Roman?

          Not at all. The phrase that you brought .. is ambiguous. The one in my comment -

          Conducting these events provided by the contract, and in essence is the first step in preparing for the survey of digital surveillance equipment on the Tu-154M Lk-1 aircraft, which is scheduled to be held in June 2016

          absolutely unique:

          - it is the observation equipment that is examined (and not the "aircraft")
          - the "outdated TU-154" itself is here .. well, no sideways .. request

          Voooot ..

          Quote: Vitwin
          Digital equipment of the Russian Tu-154М observation aircraft will be checked by experts from 18 countries

          That's right, why the extra steps - immediately comment on the commentators - (I didn’t read the article)

          Past ..

          You also need to be able to troll. Do not clog the tape. And do not meddle with trifles - I will bite laughing
          1. +5
            27 March 2016 15: 42
            Quote: Cat Man Null
            Past ..

            Dull in the evening, please, Roman?

            Unfortunately, the phrase has not lost its relevance, I explain - it was not addressed to you and generally expressed a positive assessment of your comm hi (Wh ++)
            - bite

            Well, nice - worse if lick laughing
      2. +1
        27 March 2016 15: 07
        A group of 50 experts representing 18 countries party to the Open Skies Treaty will conduct a preliminary survey of digital equipment installed on a Tu-154M Lk-1 observation aircraft,
        Generally lost in space. That Carcass 204 does not fit, some kind of cameras there, "atomic", and this, you see, is generally a monster, even sees that in shorts! Here are 50 experts and are afraid for their balls! Damn! "Ilyusha" will go, this is the gap of the fifth point!
        And neh (what), he should go to the forest, wake animals.
      3. gjv
        +1
        27 March 2016 18: 03
        Quote: Cat Man Null
        in fact, about the "certification" of the observation equipment developed in the Russian Federation for the "Open Sky" program?

        Actually, experts will come to examine "their equipment" in many ways.

        1. +1
          27 March 2016 18: 10
          Quote: gjv
          In fact, experts will come to examine in many ways "their equipment

          Perhaps you understood, you wanted to say. Me not request
          1. +4
            27 March 2016 21: 50
            Quote: Cat Man Null
            Quote: gjv
            In fact, experts will come to examine in many ways "their equipment

            Perhaps you understood, you wanted to say. Me not request

            ... Greetings to Roman Batkovich, I would also like to hear a detailed explanation of the photos which Mr. gjv pulled from an article in 2014, by the way the article is very informative http://topwar.ru/54072-ultra-slozhnyy-samolet-shpion-oak-tupolev-214os.html ... hi
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    3. +4
      27 March 2016 15: 00
      Quote: Magic Archer
      Yes, unfortunately we are behind in the construction of civil aircraft ... Tu-154 is outdated both morally and physically.

      What it means is outdated - well, it eats a lot of fuel, the rest, as they say now, is tuned. He doesn’t fly on a commercial line; here, excessive fuel consumption does not play a special role.
    4. +8
      27 March 2016 15: 01
      How aircraft and equipment relate to each other. The equipment can be put on any, even on "Mriya". But what the hell are they going to check, it's a question if they themselves don't give our permission to fly over their territory, but they flew over us without any problems.
    5. +7
      27 March 2016 15: 46
      Quote: Magic Archer
      And his successors such as the Tu-204 are not brought to mind

      What do you mean by the term "not brought to mind"? They have been flying for a long time and not only in Russia. No mass production. And the plane of the open sky based on it Tu-214ON has also been flying for a long time. At the moment, the most modern aircraft in the entire fleet in the open sky. Americans are afraid of him and do not allow him to fly at home (they do not want to examine him). An-30 is rather old and it is problematic to drive it to America. Tu-154M Lk-1 in this case is a compromise option.
      1. 0
        28 March 2016 08: 13
        In confirmation of your words, for those who are interested hi
    6. +2
      27 March 2016 15: 57
      The lag has significant surnames of authors: urinson, lifshits, christenko, pohosyan, manturov and so on.
      Serdyukov was attached to the engine building industry.
      There were no breakthroughs for 30 years.
      We boast of the achievements of the 80s.
      Unfortunately, engineers were deliberately removed from power,
      now there are only "specialists" who are for reality
      accept "electronic transmissions".
      Money is scorching in the illusion of superjets.
      Puppy delighted with new spy gadgets ...
      But they know how to organize a crack in the media ...
      There is no reason for joy.
      No.
      1. +1
        27 March 2016 16: 23
        Quote: skep
        Backlog has meaningful last names of authors

        Some have a lag in awareness of a particular topic. Take an interest in the real state of affairs. Yandex and Google to help you. What is more to your taste.
    7. +2
      27 March 2016 16: 07
      Why are they only interested in us? Why don’t we check the equipment, the technique of others? Why on earth are we obligated to provide them with our latest developments for study, is this not our national treasure? They already sniffed everything they could. Right now, NATO is officially going to launch spy planes. And what are we?
    8. +6
      27 March 2016 17: 20
      Well, the Americans, for all their powerful aerospace industry, are ALSO in no hurry to write off "junk" from work ...
      Lockheed P-3 Orion - An anti-submarine aircraft and today operate in addition to the United States, Germany, Greece, a dozen more countries!
      (operated since 1962)
    9. +3
      27 March 2016 18: 04
      why, for control, is it only a few flights a year to build a new plane? money nowhere to go? after all, that wonderful airplane and has proven itself excellently for the eyes for this operation is enough! it’s like if a person carries scrap metal in Zhiguli for scraping and tells him your Lada is morally obsolete, take a Mercedes to carry metal)))
    10. +1
      27 March 2016 19: 49
      Somehow the storyline went on TV - in the farm (somewhere in Europe) the unit built in 1935 works. Why change it to a more perfect one, if this one copes worse? The owner is perplexed. Well, let's not set the measuring complex until TU-204. And some people have shoes like a fool shag, so what? You can’t argue with the facts either.
    11. +2
      27 March 2016 20: 28
      experts from 18 countries will check
      Please check, you will not find anything ... As children, by golly.
    12. 0
      27 March 2016 20: 31
      This is what it is out of date? The fact that Tu-154s do not fly in their native sky is due to different coaches selling their native sky for rollbacks of Boeing, airbuses and leasing companies, and about how old it is, read the pilots' opinions about it and Boeing with airbuses.
    13. +2
      27 March 2016 21: 59
      And where are the "civilians", "lagging behind" and the Tu-204 ???
      Tu-154M-LK1 - laboratory aircraft for the RGNIITsPK named after Yu.A. Gagarin; the aircraft can be equipped with equipment for Earth sounding in any customer's version (MSK-4, TEA-10, AFA-42/20, video complex, UV cameras "Violet", etc.). The government of the Russian Federation has made a decision to install the Ronsar side-looking radar, created at the Kulon Research Institute, on the aircraft. It is planned to equip control aircraft of the open skies treaty with these same radars.

      Nothing that is (or rather was!) GERMAN Tu-154M FRG - in 1995, the Daimler Benz Airbus company at the plant in Dresden converted one Tu-154M aircraft (namely, tail number 1102), which previously belonged to the GDR, under the program "Open sky"; the aircraft was equipped with three VOS GO optical cameras (one vertical and two side ones) and three LMK 2015 video cameras; the passenger compartment was completely re-equipped to meet new challenges; the aircraft was used under the program until 1997, when it crashed in a collision with a Luftwaffe fighter;

      Germany "lagged behind" the same? "there weren't enough airbuses"?

      For reference: The flight resource Tu-154M is 25 years, and the glider -15000 hours.
      Why do you need Tu-204 or IL?
    14. +2
      27 March 2016 22: 52
      Quote: Magic Archer
      Yes, unfortunately we are lagging behind in the construction of civilian aircraft ... Tu-154 is outdated both morally and physically .. And its successors such as Tu-204 are not brought to mind. So it turns out that we put modern equipment on outdated equipment. Even the most modern Russian anti-submarine aircraft is an outdated IL! and you can blame me but you can’t argue with the facts ...

      Sorry, dear, but we are not lagging behind, but they are not allowing us to develop. The Tu-204 has a decent replacement, the Tu-334 (http://www.tupolev.ru/tu-334), which was ruined in the bud, but talking about equipment that is ahead of the competition
    15. +5
      27 March 2016 22: 58
      Quote: Magic Archer
      Yes, unfortunately we are behind in the construction of civilian aircraft


      we are not far behind. The production and design of Russian civilian aircraft is deliberately slowed down by Western lobbyists in the Russian government. Western companies like Boeing and Airbus are not sparing any money on these lobbyists.
      Until this situation is reversed at the top of the government, we will never fly on our civilian aircraft.
      1. 0
        27 March 2016 23: 18
        Quote: lopvlad
        Quote: Magic Archer
        Yes, unfortunately we are behind in the construction of civilian aircraft


        we are not far behind. The production and design of Russian civilian aircraft is deliberately slowed down by Western lobbyists in the Russian government. Western companies like Boeing and Airbus are not sparing any money on these lobbyists.
        Until this situation is reversed at the top of the government, we will never fly on our civilian aircraft.

        Speak the truth dear hi
  2. +4
    27 March 2016 14: 20
    I don’t understand, is it a formality or are afraid that we will see more than they show? If the second, then don’t be afraid - we’ll see anyway, we have CRET, but they don’t.
    1. +4
      27 March 2016 14: 46
      Quote: iliitch
      I do not understand, is it a formality or are afraid

      It is banal to postpone the beginning of our monitoring of NATO territories. So there is something to hide and hide it is necessary to remain "white and fluffy".
  3. +2
    27 March 2016 14: 21
    New equipment. It is clear why the Americans do not want to allow such aircraft to fly over the United States.
  4. +8
    27 March 2016 14: 21
    It's time to send them with this "open sky". what
    1. +1
      27 March 2016 14: 55
      Quote: Vladimirets
      It's time to send them with this "open sky"

      ... forest, field and peat bog (send, in the sense) laughing

      But in reality - why, in fact? IMHO a good program - they flew with us, what we need - they saw.

      We flew with them - also saw something ..

      Good increase to salary satellite and other intelligence data. Trust, again, partnership wink
  5. +6
    27 March 2016 14: 21
    All exactly, I will no longer sit in this flying piece of iron. May the pilots forgive me. But the news of recent years ...

    1. +2
      27 March 2016 14: 38
      If you could calculate the elements, then the pilots probably would not be offended.
      1. +5
        27 March 2016 14: 42
        calculate the elements




        Ahh ... well, yes ... the element is miscalculating
    2. +18
      27 March 2016 15: 21
      DEZINTO ... Everything exactly I no longer sit in this flying piece of iron. May the pilots forgive me. But the news of recent years ...

      Flew 40 years on a dozen types. On each there were cases of "emergency situation". On Tu-154 - 24 years old, there were no "emergency situations" due to HIS fault. Although during the period of its "fine-tuning" there were many problems (and disasters). Then this information was chipboard. In aviation it is very important who you trust "glass". Since 2004 "left", now I go to the "south" only in my car. I don't trust modern "pilot-operators". A completely different school of training, completely "Western". Now, in real conditions, "imitation of failures" is not trained, only on a "simulator", and this is how to kiss a woman through glass. To train on a simulator is much cheaper than in a "live" flight , but at the same time, the vestibular apparatus is not involved, and this "gyroscope" often fails in an unexpected non-standard position of the aircraft. A person loses spatial position and involuntarily makes mistakes. Always in difficult situations prevails - "lack of time" to make the right decision. And if emotions of "fear" interfere here, because of not understanding what situation you are in, then the situation
      out of control.
      1. +4
        27 March 2016 15: 45
        Eh ... Fly by Aeroflot. I can't even believe what it was .... The Soviet school of "civilian" grew out of the "military" ...
        1. +2
          27 March 2016 18: 10
          Minus accepted, but I would like to see the argument of the minus ...
          1. +2
            27 March 2016 21: 27
            Do not expect this cowardly shobla to argue your minuses. This is the category of cornered "Heroes" that is afraid of even verbal confrontation and is limited to petty dirty tricks.
  6. -1
    27 March 2016 14: 25
    "Tu one hundred and four most ancient plane" Music by Mozart. Why do Boeings fall? Especially Malaysian
    1. +11
      27 March 2016 14: 29
      Quote: Tusv
      "Tu one hundred and four most ancient plane" Music by Mozart. Why do Boeings fall? Especially Malaysian

      I would like your logic, I could communicate with women on equal terms. wink And so I will answer in a similar way: the blue color should be the best if the cranes were flying to the left.
    2. +1
      27 March 2016 14: 32
      Dear, I put a minus to you. And now I will explain why. Firstly, have respect for the dead. Secondly, now the percentage of Boeing for flying carcasses is such that it’s even a shame to compare. They haven’t been flying abroad for civilian flights for a long time because they don’t pass by noise parameters and reliability. But Boeing and Airbus have long occupied the civilian aircraft market and we can’t get there yet. There was hope for a SuperJet, but apparently it is useless to hope for it, as well as for the MS-21. That's where our military transport aircraft fly on old cars. So what about leave the unit your sarcasm to yourself
      1. +6
        27 March 2016 14: 52
        Quote: Magic Archer
        There was hope for SuperJet, but apparently it was useless to hope for him, as well as for the MS-21.

        ... my opinion, you are in a hurry with a wake ... especially the MS-21 ... hi
    3. +2
      27 March 2016 17: 38
      Quote: Tusv
      "Tu one hundred and four most ancient plane" Music by Mozart. Why do Boeings fall? Especially Malaysian

      Chopin.
    4. 0
      27 March 2016 23: 49
      Quote: Tusv
      "Tu one hundred and four most ancient plane" Music by Mozart. Why do Boeings fall? Especially Malaysian

      If you are talking about the tune "There will be a New Year in kindergarten", then this is Fryderyk Chopin's sonata for piano No. 2 (movement No. 3) in B-flat minor. But in general, your comment, in principle, does not cause me any understanding. Expand your deep thought before it becomes stupidity.
  7. +4
    27 March 2016 14: 29
    Well, rightly so Russia openly demonstrates its superiority over all Westerners. Show what the control plane is stuffed with according to the contract and explain to the stupid experts how it works is a strong move. Compliance with the treaty and the "open skies" framework shows everyone that we are open and are not going to attack, thereby depriving the aggressors of the opportunity for another attack in our direction. And compliance with this agreement is just a formality.
    1. vv3
      +5
      27 March 2016 20: 12
      With a certain level of scanning and signal processing using such equipment, it is possible to create digital maps of the flying regions. But this requires powerful calculators and storage devices for storing information. In the future, this information is used for guidance systems and determining the coordinates of the target in standalone mode. ,, Check to be made for the absence of such equipment on board ... Why all this crackling?
  8. +2
    27 March 2016 14: 30
    A group of 50 experts representing 18 countries party to the Open Skies Treaty will conduct a preliminary survey of digital equipment installed on a Tu-154M Lk-1 observation aircraft,


    Stop, the Turk should not be allowed to be examined.
  9. +1
    27 March 2016 14: 33
    Quote: Magic Archer
    Yes, unfortunately we are lagging behind in the construction of civilian aircraft ... Tu-154 is outdated both morally and physically .. And its successors such as Tu-204 are not brought to mind. So it turns out that we put modern equipment on outdated equipment. Even the most modern Russian anti-submarine aircraft is an outdated IL! and you can blame me but you can’t argue with the facts ...


    Russia now has other aviation priorities, we are on the verge of 3 world ... Russia needs to be secured first .. civil aviation will wait
    1. +5
      27 March 2016 14: 47
      World War III has been around for a long time. But you are wrong about civil aviation! I roughly described the result of the failed 90x. Now the main fleet of civil aviation is foreign airplanes! And you need your own! I read an article about our AWACS. So you know why transport Il was chosen? Because that they didn’t find a similar and more convenient analogue! So you’ll wait ...
      1. +7
        27 March 2016 15: 22
        Quote: Magic Archer
        I read an article about our AWACS. So you know why transport IL was chosen? Because they did not find a similar and more convenient analogue! So you will wait ...

        ... You somehow misread it for sure ... what analogues? ... the military requirements, as the earth and the sky differ from the civil ones ... and, already in the times of the USSR, they were outrageous ... to remind that one of them was "to ensure the possibility of operation from unpaved airfields" and therefore IL 76 as a base for A-50 ...
        1. +1
          27 March 2016 15: 37
          Yes, what does landing on the ground have to do with it ?! We initially had an analogue of Hokai on Kuznetsovo. As a result, a helicopter flies. We have practically no class of small civilian aircraft.
          1. +5
            27 March 2016 16: 14
            Quote: Magic Archer
            At Kuznetsovo, we originally assumed an aircraft analogue of Hokai. As a result, a helicopter flies.

            ... the "Kuznetsov" never planned an AWACS aircraft ... the creation of the Yak-44 was carried out for "Ulyanovsk" ... hi
            1. +2
              27 March 2016 21: 16
              Quote: Inok10
              ... the "Kuznetsov" never planned an AWACS aircraft
              The AN-71 is built on the basis of the multi-purpose short take-off and landing aircraft An-72, which is in service with the Air Force. The aircraft is equipped with engines D-436K turbofan engines with a thrust of 7500 kg Zaporizhzhya company "Progress". It was originally planned to use the An-71 from the Admiral Kuznetsov aircraft carrier, equipped with an inclined ramp instead of a catapult to ensure aircraft take-off.
              1. 0
                27 March 2016 21: 40
                Thank you, Sasha. I didn’t have the opportunity to take it all off, I’m sitting on the phone today and driving all day. I argue here with everyone, but it seems like more healthy people than retrograds who do not care what they fly on. But if you compare them not with airplanes, but what cars will these people choose ?! A new foreign car (or ours) or a junk rusty, but like tuning (like Carcass) I think honest people will answer like EVERYTHING and won't lie
              2. +4
                27 March 2016 22: 28
                Quote: Bayonet
                The original plan was to use the An-71 from the aircraft carrier Admiral Kuznetsov

                ... don't want to bring the dimensions, especially the heights? ... and compare the dimensions of the Kuznetsov's under-deck hangar? ... when the AN-71 was not planned for carrier-based aircraft, it was offered by the Antonov Design Bureau ... hi and quote:
                TTZ appeared in the fourth quarter of 1983, and in the third quarter of 1984 a technical proposal was developed. It presented a variant of a carrier-based carrier aircraft performing full-scale TTZ. However, for him on an aircraft carrier ship should have a catapultrather than a ski runway, or significantly increase the thrust-weight ratio of the machine (the option with three accelerating engines was proposed).
                The customer, having considered the technical proposal, made the following decision:
                1. Based on the conditions of take-off and landing from an aircraft carrier ship, the mass of the RTK, the need for serious refinement of the land variant, a large amount of aerodynamic and bench research, consider inappropriate the further development of a ship aircraft based on land.
                2. Continue work on the creation of the ship version with the implementation of experimental design work with all stages.
                Later, in the USSR, they began to create a ship's AWACS aircraft, but this work was already done by another company ... Source: http://www.airwar.ru/enc/spy/an71.html
                ... it was the Yakovlev design bureau ... Yak-44 ... hi
  10. +1
    27 March 2016 14: 33
    “They will enable Western partners to make sure that the Russian digital surveillance equipment is fully compliant with the requirements of the Treaty.”
    What does this mean? That the hardware only sees "democratic values"?
    1. 0
      27 March 2016 17: 05
      Not. Should not look into the bedroom.
  11. +3
    27 March 2016 14: 37
    It is possible that they will investigate and say: well, you’ll be in the bathhouse, you’ll look at everything with us, and they won’t let us in anymore! laughing
  12. +4
    27 March 2016 14: 40
    Well, again ?! Just now, the Turks (NATO) did not allow us, the previously planned overflight of the Turkish territory (January-February 2016), and we again "turn out our pockets for them" ?!
    I would like to see more in-depth information on this topic.
  13. +2
    27 March 2016 14: 44
    TU154 is a good car, tested. In Syria, SU24 with a new sighting system made hell for the barmales. Our approach, as usual, is cheap and cheerful.
  14. +1
    27 March 2016 14: 47
    Will come for a visit! And what will they see there. It is necessary to send with the open sky and all.
  15. 0
    27 March 2016 14: 52
    It can be seen that our serious something was created, since such a stir. Now all fleas in the USA will be counted ...
  16. 0
    27 March 2016 14: 53
    Now, when the turn of the Amerokosovites comes to survey our peaceful fields, it will be necessary / naturally based on this precedent / to certify the equipment used by the "sworn partners". An eye for an eye, peace is peace, and war ... ka.
  17. 0
    27 March 2016 14: 54
    And our experts expertly checked their airplanes? Or they were not allowed to them?
    1. 0
      27 March 2016 21: 19
      Quote: BIGLESHIY
      And our experts expertly checked their airplanes? Or they were not allowed to them?

      SURE! Who would let them fly over our territory without familiarizing themselves with the equipment! What could be the controversy? request
  18. 0
    27 March 2016 15: 20
    After Turkey entered into an opportunity to inspect its territory, it was possible, with a clear conscience, to give out a sub-specimen to everyone who wanted to fly over Russia to look at the ICBM mines, or at least rummage through our aircraft.
    Anyway, in the light of the latest news, if possible, let the LPR accidentally have the S-200, it’s not necessary to have a newer one, let's see what the U-2 starts flying. Unless of course something reaches the earth.
  19. +1
    27 March 2016 16: 07
    TU-154 is a normal machine, with good care, sorry, maintenance, using high-quality parts for repairs, avionics ... over there IL-18, IL-20 still fly and fly gorgeous in the Navy Air Force ..... but in general , well, moving away from the topic of the article ... of the Soviet passenger planes I most like the IL-62, in second place the IL-86, in third Tushka. 154
  20. +3
    27 March 2016 16: 09
    All this is not clear.
    We are not allowed to inspect someone else's sky.
    We are fenced off from all the affairs of Europe.
    Collaboration ceases in everything and everything!
    AND WE ALWAYS THEM --- PLEASE ???
  21. 0
    27 March 2016 16: 35
    Beautiful plane. I wonder what year it is? And the equipment on it is the same as on the Tu-214-OH?
  22. +2
    27 March 2016 16: 56
    Wow, yoyoeyoyoyoyoyo (TM)

    The article, in fact, is about:

    - a new (digital) observation equipment for the Open Sky program has been created in the Russian Federation
    - according to the Agreement, such an appartment is subject to examination before it is used in observations
    - The Russian Federation is conducting a preliminary (preliminary, Karl!) Survey
    - that is, those who wish (of those who are supposed to be essno) can come and familiarize themselves with the equipment in advance. So that later there would be less bad questions.

    And all
    request

    The reaction spectrum is impressive:

    Quote: Alexander 3
    TU154 is a good car, tested. In Syria, SU24 with a new sighting system made hell for barmaley. Our approach is as usual- cheap and cheerful

    Quote: Andrey VOV
    TU-154 normal machine, with good care, sorry, maintenance, using high-quality parts for repair, avionics

    So .. these two comrades didn’t read the article .. saw the TU-154 and rushed to "check in" .. ok ..

    Quote: individ
    All this is not clear.
    We are not allowed to inspect someone else's sky.
    We are fenced off from all the affairs of Europe.
    Collaboration ceases in everything and everything!
    AND WE ALWAYS THEM --- PLEASE ???

    - The contract is multilateral, if that. And so far it works. In all directions. And glory .. work that works.

    Quote: demiurg
    After Turkey entered ... to provide an opportunity to inspect its territory, it was possible, with a clear conscience, to give out a sub-specimen to everyone who wanted to fly over Russia to see the ICBM mines, or at least rummage through our aircraft

    - and to throw more tactical nuclear charges on Turkey .. original thought, to neglect ..

    Quote: BIGLESHIY
    And our experts expertly checked their airplanes? Or they were not allowed to them?

    - it will be necessary - they will let me go. The equipment that they are currently using has already been tested by our (and not only) experts

    Quote: V.ic
    Now, when the turn of the Amerokosovites comes to survey our peaceful fields, it will be necessary / naturally based on this precedent / to certify the equipment used by the "sworn partners". An eye for an eye, peace is peace, and war ... ka.

    - oh, yoёёo .. Which, to the raven, is a precedent .. the new equipment is certified .. the one that is already certified is not certified, because it has already been certified ..

    Br-rrrrrr (shaking her head) laughing
    1. +1
      28 March 2016 03: 06
      Quote: Cat Man Null
      Br-rrrrrr (shaking her head

      good That there would be a misunderstanding - I simplify it as much as possible)))
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  23. 0
    27 March 2016 17: 12
    Let them come and see what they can do.
    a "regional" country with a "torn to shreds" economy.
  24. 0
    27 March 2016 17: 39
    Then, excuse me, why do we need these same spies who need to pay more money? It is better to demand that the Russians themselves show and explain everything. Desirable with drawings and technologies.
  25. +3
    27 March 2016 18: 56
    What all attached to the plane. There, the platform is not important, but the filling. As for the aircraft, the Tu154 is a wonderful device for these purposes. It flies quickly, in a stream it practically does not sausage. Military air raids are many times lower than civilian ones; there is still a lot of resources left. So what else will serve. Look, even the old man An30 was modernized, which cannot but rejoice.
    In general, Americans are in a hurry to write off their Hercules, they fly to themselves and fly. I would not chase after a new middle-weight driver in our place, but I just modernized An12. His engines are more powerful and more economical, avionics a new and wonderful device will come out. Glider there, God forbid, wherever you want to sit down.
  26. +1
    27 March 2016 19: 11
    What is there to check the equipment? look do not look, but the sharp eye of ensign Sidorovich will not be replaced by anyone
  27. +1
    27 March 2016 19: 29
    I don't seem to understand something about this check. Correct me if you are wrong, but it was spelled out as: You open your sky, "partners" open theirs. You look at objects along an interesting route, "partners" look at objects along an interesting route, so that the activity at any object does not accidentally be mistaken for preparation for a world war and does not bang the whole world into dust. Now some problems with accessibility began. Either they are preparing for a world war, or, as with SDI, a big puff of real combat power remains, and in the media only the rattling of eggs that have long since fallen from their rightful place after many years of Western values. Naturally, it is impossible to talk about the first or the second, the effect of suddenness will disappear, so they try to play for time as they can.
  28. +2
    27 March 2016 19: 57
    He stressed that these events "will allow Western partners to ensure that Russian digital surveillance equipment fully complies with the requirements of the Treaty."

    Yeah, the Russian digital equipment of the bourgeois company Teledyne DALSA.
    https://www.teledynedalsa.com/corp/
    1. -1
      27 March 2016 23: 59
      Quote: professor
      Yeah, the Russian digital equipment of the bourgeois company Teledyne DALSA.
      https://www.teledynedalsa.com/corp/

      So what's the problem? We don’t know who made it? What car are you using? German? But you bought it, so it’s yours, is it logical? We are talking about the equipment that the Russian side intends to use, and your attempt to suspect us of excessive patriotism indicates that now, unlike the previous flea search, you started looking for fleas on fleas.
    2. 0
      28 March 2016 00: 16
      Quote: professor
      Yeah, the Russian digital equipment of the bourgeois company Teledyne DALSA.
      https://www.teledynedalsa.com/corp/

      I didn’t have time to correct it, I’m adding it - On the other hand, your comment is informative, and there are no complaints about it. hi What's new about Merkava and the Iron Dome? We want slides.
      PS Well, yes, you don’t write anything else. Well, at least rare comments. We are waiting, we miss you.
  29. -2
    28 March 2016 02: 44
    nothing has to be said about the Merkava and the Iron Dome. He, like the entire Israeli-American military, is still shocked by the lack of analogs in the world of Armata (which, however, no one saw, except for a stalled parade with a cardboard tower), a 12-generation airplane (which, however, it will not be known when it will be finalized) shooting down the S-400 Martian flight vehicles (which, however, didn’t bring down anything in combat) and other not having analogues in the course of the achievements of the Russian military complex
  30. 0
    28 March 2016 03: 45
    Quote: Thronekeeper
    But it is with civil aviation that it is bad with us. Expensive to us cheap imported recyclables.

    It’s not very offensive to yourself!
  31. cap
    0
    28 March 2016 04: 22
    Quote: NordUral
    Recyclable materials are secondary, the main thing is that liberalists are expensive for us. And after all, nothing can calm down.


    Agree to 100%! hi
  32. +1
    28 March 2016 06: 41
    Why can not you see the opuses about checking foreign aircraft by representatives of Russia. Probably, as usual, they took and didn’t. Hochmachi.