Sergei Shoigu: The possibilities of the prospective basing of the forces of the Pacific Fleet in the Kuril Islands are being studied

Today, Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu announced that the main defense department of Russia is considering the possibility of basing ships of the Navy fleet (Pacific Fleet) in the Kuril Islands.

From the statement of Sergei Shoigu:

In April, the sailors of the Pacific Fleet will embark on a three-month expedition trip to the islands of the Great Kuril Ridge. The main goal is to study the possibilities of the perspective basing of the forces of the Pacific Fleet.

At the same time, the minister added:

Already this year, the coastal missile systems "Ball" and "Bastion", unmanned aerial vehicles will be placed here.

In Japan, such a statement was answered with lightning-like “concerns”. The question of the possibility of placing ships of the Pacific Fleet in the Kuril Islands to journalists from RIA News commented on the Chairman of the Committee of the Council of the Federation of the Federal Assembly of the Russian Federation on Defense and Security Viktor Ozerov.

According to Viktor Ozerov, the number of ships that Russia can deploy on the Kuril Islands depends on the quality of relations with the Japanese and other neighbors.

RIA News cites a statement by the representative of the Federation Council of the Russian Federation:

The more constructive the relations of Russia with Japan and other states of the Asia-Pacific region, the better it will affect the quantity and quality of warships of the Pacific Navy, which can be deployed on the Kuril Islands. When we talk about basing, we do not mean that the entire Pacific Navy of the Russian Federation will be transferred there.

According to Senator Ozerov, the deployment of certain ships of the Pacific Fleet in the Kuril Islands will help Russia more effectively solve security-related tasks.

Comments

[oleg-gr]

Here is a scream and there will be tantrums. The Japanese are digesting the news. Undoubtedly, Europe will vote. Fun ahead.

[Alexey Z.]

Exactly ... the Japanese will start right now!

[Vasya_Piterskiy]

All our "partners" have been going anxious for a couple of years now, and then there's this news! And I want to note the great news! A strategically smart move!

[Pravdarm]

Already this year, the coastal missile systems "Ball" and "Bastion", unmanned aerial vehicles will be placed here.

Obviously, the equipment of the Kuril outpost begins. Obstacle in the Japanese-American direction. The jackals have several bases there, including Yokosuka , where the aircraft carrier John C. Stennis and its accompanying ships recently supplemented the permanently deployed US Navy grouping in the waters of the Far East, led by the nuclear-powered aircraft carrier Ronald Reagan.

And thereby, apparently emphasized - the Kuril Islands! And then they were already sickened with whining, indignation, fears. Just a little who will come to the Kuril Islands from our dignitaries, so you begin to gobble!

[saturn.mmm]

Quote: Pravdarm

And thereby, apparently emphasized - the Kuril Islands! And then they were already sickened with whining, indignation, fears. Just a little who will come to the Kuril Islands from our dignitaries, so you begin to gobble!

Many children need to give birth and populate the territory of their country, this will be the most weighty argument.

[NEXUS]

Quote: saturn.mmm

Many children need to give birth and populate the territory of their country, this will be the most weighty argument.

This is true. As long as the government’s policy doesn’t seem to be bothered by this issue. I have a Russian friend from Moldova who has been unable to obtain Russian citizenship for 10 years. And outside Russia, about 30 to 40 million Russians live. ) really want to live, work and raise children in their historical Motherland. But they don’t really care about the demographic issue, neither the government nor the Duma. Just talk, and PR around.

[Evgeniy667b]

On Simushir, already under the USSR, they began to build a naval base in a very convenient bay, then they abandoned it at the Ural Nugget, like many other things. The time has come to bring what we have begun to mind. As for our publicized government and the Duma, together with the guarantor, words are not enough from what they are doing. For visibility, one thing, but basically the opposite.

[tundra]

It was necessary in due time to build a base on Hokaido.
And take the island to yourself.
I wonder how the name of the area would sound?

[gavrosh.ru]

then they would call it - the East Leninist region of the USSR))) A GOOD TIME WAS -Even with the names of the new regions there would be no wrangles in the Supreme Council

[edge]

Quote: tundra

It was necessary in due time to build a base on Hokaido.
And take the island to yourself.

absolutely true, especially since this is our territory though the population was carved 18-19 centuries

[Starina_hank]

Obviously, someone came up with another scheme for washing the dough against the backdrop of the development of the Kuril Islands! We have ships on the Pacific Fleet is not much more than the islands. Even the Japanese did not have full-fledged bases on the islands, and now we are on ..... chim !! ?? Does anyone consider money in this state, or is he friends with his head? Texas better learn !!

[Starina_hank]

Obviously, someone came up with another scheme for washing the dough against the backdrop of the development of the Kuril Islands! We have ships on the Pacific Fleet is not much more than the islands. Even the Japanese did not have full-fledged bases on the islands, and now we are on ..... chim !! ?? Does anyone consider money in this state, or is he friends with his head? Texas better learn !!

[edge]

Quote: Starina_Hank

Does anyone consider money in this state, or is he friends with his head? Texas better learn !!

get lost wise guy just look at the list of natural resources available there, all the more this will contribute to population growth there, and therefore the development of the territory

[kuz363]

So Dvorkovich seems ready to give the Kuril Islands to Japan to establish economic relations? Who will get ahead then?

[tundra]

We had a man at work, he worked as a mechanic, a higher education, a mechanical engineer, a wife, a philologist, a teacher of Russian language and literature, and his son is also a mechanical engineer. The men at the Tashkent aircraft factory worked.
For three, three years, Karl, they mocked, with citizenship.
But these from the Caucasus for a bribe within a month received, with difficulty two words in Russian could utter.
Well, they were helped by them
diaspora.

[933454818]

Yes, I saw it in Cheboksary, stood in line at the passport desk for registration, and then three khachiks passed the line and into the chief’s office as they were at home, after 10 minutes they got out funny, they were rattling something in their own language, everything was clear the question was resolved positively ...

[derik1970]

Unfortunately you are right! Nothing to add. And it’s also interesting why this number of ships placed at our base suddenly depends on the mood of the Japanese? They don’t feel shy at all, they want to bring the aircraft carrier closer to us, they want two, they will borrow from NATO and three will be delivered. But we have a clean field there and no one, well, the acre of machine gunners with grenade launchers is even liquid. The riddle is a pancake. Everything is modest. Maybe it's time for the oligarchs to dekulakize and poke their nose, what came from them? And this is even more difficult than negotiating with the Japanese!

[Trom]

My Russian friend from Moldova has not been able to obtain Russian citizenship for 10 years.

Something is wrong here ... When my wife and I decided to use the compatriot resettlement program, we prepared the documents longer than received an answer. The whole procedure took about three months ... Your friend "wants something wrong", apparently it is similar to the desire to simultaneously eat fish and other actions related more to demographics than food. Excuse me for such an impression from your note. My experience is different ..

[Inok10]

Quote: Pravdarm

Obviously, the equipment of the Kuril outpost begins.

... there is now a Komsomol construction site as in the best Soviet times, I have some insider from Yuzhno-Sakhalinsk, even Kaliningraders there ... ... work goes on without too much noise and dust ...

[Serhio]

Kuril OUR seppuku YOUR!

[Altona]

Quote: Vasya_Piterskiy

All our "partners" have been going anxious for a couple of years now, and then there's this news! And I want to note the great news! A strategically smart move!

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I wonder why they hadn’t taken Hokkaido earlier from there before? Otherwise, what for they are needed? I’m silent about any fishing, crab and marine delirium. Security zone and security perimeter, and please.

[jktu66]

The airport was built on the islands. who said that videoconferencing cannot be placed on it if necessary? Now it's time to tighten up the "hardware" of the Navy.

[Arikkhab]

there has always been an airfield - Petrel is called on Iturup

[Vitwin]

Quote: ArikKhab

there has always been an airfield - Petrel is called on Iturup

Q \ H 03105 not?

[Reserve officer]

The plans for the Kuril Islands are absolutely correct. The fleet and infrastructure there are simply necessary.
I did not like only Ozerov’s dictum about quantity and quality, depending on constructive relations with Japan. It is necessary to stir what Russia needs in the worst political situation. How many ships and which ones is not a matter of the Japanese mind.

[Ria]

There are other opinions: some analysts believe that the withdrawal of the main forces of the Russian Aerospace Forces from Syria was carried out under pressure from China, which is growing tensions with the United States, which could turn into an open clash in the Pacific Ocean, and China needs Russia to strengthen its positions there. Since the ally cannot simultaneously conduct military operations on 2 fronts, China allegedly insisted on curtailing the main operations of the Russian Aerospace Forces in Syria. This is backed up by the promise of large volumes of investment. Russia could not agree more - apart from China, we have practically no allies. Now Shoigu is taking the first real steps to strengthen Russia's position in the Pacific theater - a large amount of military equipment is being deployed: here are drones, ships, and coastal missile systems. A strange "coincidence", isn't it?

[NEXUS]

Quote: Ria

.Russia could not disagree - except for China, we have practically no allies.

I do not agree. India, Brazil.

Quote: Ria

Now Shoigu is taking the first real steps to strengthen Russia's position in the Pacific theater, a large amount of military equipment is being transferred: here are drones, ships, and coastal missile systems.

Perhaps not a coincidence. But ... Japan has the "freshest" and second-strongest fleet in this direction. Japan's oldest warship, built in 91.
Therefore, the bases in the Kuril Islands are certainly good, only updating and introducing new ships into the Pacific Fleet should be done more efficiently. And here, by the way, the question raised in one article today about the submarines of projects 885 and 955 becomes very relevant. .

[Talgat]

Quote: NEXUS

Quote: Ria
.Russia could not disagree - except for China, we have practically no allies.
I do not agree. India, Brazil.

Comrades, India and Brazil are good countries - and cooperate with China and Russia in the BRICS

But there is a HUGE difference between them and Russia with China. If China and Russia are in fact opponents of the West and the USA, then India and Brazil so far are its allies.

And the task of Russia and China is to drag India and Brazil. But for now they are in the western camp

[kuz363]

China seems to be an ally. But also on my mind.

[Roman 11]

Quote: NEXUS

I do not agree. India, Brazil.

And there were exercises with Brazil?

[Severok]

The tradition is fresh and hard to believe. This is about the connection of events in the SAR and about the confrontation between the "dragon" and a fat usurer in a striped star pajamas.

The Kuril Islands long ago had to be consolidated by its presence, and not only by the presence of the army and navy. That now finally they started to do it - plus. That we may not know all the details of this process is another plus, we know less - those who do not need to know this will learn less. It’s another matter how all this is created, with what aim and presence what only military or military and economic.

Regarding the disorder on the part of the descendants of Amaterasu-Amikami, so let them get upset and indignant! Who's stopping them from showing mattresses the way out of Okinawa? That's where the territories are freed up, almost like the South Kuril Islands in area!

[Talgat]

Quote: Ria

The withdrawal of the main forces of the Russian air forces from Syria was carried out under pressure from China, which is growing tensions with the United States, capable of turning into an open clash in the Pacific Ocean, and Russia needs China to strengthen its position there.

In general, it’s very realistic, unfortunately there is no USSR — and soon the place of the main enemy of the United States and the West will be completely occupied by China. not Russia. simply by virtue of China’s tenfold power — comparable to the west. And the role of Russia unfortunately remains only in ensuring the safe rear of China - supply - and other assistance. Who is senior and who is younger will unfortunately be clear.

But in Syria I do not agree. China will never surrender the Iranian-Syrian direction for the Pacific - it is not afraid of either the United States or Japan and is steadily increasing its power in the Pacific. And he sure is enough of that. what Russia has so far there - after all, atomarines are a factor. and the Kuril Islands did not give up - and China there hastily opened a joint venture with Russia for the production of sea cucumbers (it’s evident that he has nowhere to grow them more )

And Iran is just as important to him as Syria - and this task is assigned to Russia. Russia didn’t bring out everything - but part of the aviation - and perhaps because of the storm season. or maybe because of the truce so that there is no downtime - or maybe it’s bargaining with Iran — it crushes or blackmail me — like I’ll leave now and give up everything, it’s not known exactly

[n.kolesnichenko]

But this is not a fact, dear !!! Compare the nuclear potential of Russia and China !!!

[Rimlianin]

China is no ally to us. In the economy, it’s a competitor (they overwhelmed the entire market with its cheap consumer goods, it does not allow its light, textile, electronic industry to develop), militarily as well (hundreds of thousands of Chinese soldiers and thousands of tanks are on the borders with Russia). And the promised loans at a reasonable percentage should not be given in a hurry. What nafig ally?

[Ria]

And here is more information from today's news on "VO": in June, Putin will solve "world order issues" in Beijing - a second coincidence? Or a continuation of the first?

[abrakadabre]

"Bastion" and "Ball" in the Lesser Kuril Islands. Line of sight from Japan

Let them rejoice for us.

[edge]

Quote: Vasya_Piterskiy

All our "partners" have been going anxious for a couple of years now, and then there's this news! And I want to note the great news! A strategically smart move!

oh yes, they cherished the hope that by introducing a squadron into the yellow and Japanese seas they immediately block 70% of the tof, and here the quiet and northern Arctic immediately become operational sites and the value of Japan drops by 60%.

[Vladimir16]

Well, here are the fresh solutions.
Great.
After all, building the right thing!
The infrastructure will be built. Workplaces.

[RUSS]

Quote: Vladimir16

The infrastructure will be built. Workplaces.

“During 2016, builders in the Kuril Islands will have to complete reconstruction and new construction of more than 220 objects, including more than 40 residential buildings and hostels, two schools, two kindergartens, two universal sports complexes with a swimming pool, ice rinks, canteens, hospitals and clinics, shops, cafes, as well as objects of combat training and supporting infrastructure, ”the RF Ministry of Defense specified.

[cniza]

The more constructive the relations of Russia with Japan and other states of the Asia-Pacific region, the better it will affect the quantity and quality of warships of the Pacific Navy, which can be deployed on the Kuril Islands. When we talk about basing, we do not mean that the entire Pacific Navy of the Russian Federation will be transferred there.

Do not add, do not diminish - everything is extremely clear and clear.

[Thronekeeper]

What time can we assume the power of the explosion of a samurai fart, when three hundred japs ​​are documenting: Russia didn’t fight at all, and there aren’t such countries yet, the UGIL all scared each other for five years, and there Uncle Vova came, and 27000 terror at once converted to Islam again , to the gourii, and who, in order to avoid this, shaved, put on a bra and put on the gourie himself, but with us the Russians are still de jure the war is not over...

[PKK]

There are opportunities, only to rename the appeal to officers as SENPAY NAREY! To the regiment commander as to SENSEI NAREY!

[79807420129]

Quote: Alexey Z.

Exactly ... the Japanese will start right now!

That's for sure, not one samurai fart will explode today.

[arane]

Quote: Alexey Z.

Exactly ... the Japanese will start right now!

Yeah, mass sepuku with harakirim.

[FenH]

Quote: oleg-gr

Here is a scream and there will be tantrums.

Screams and tantrums will not help, let them immediately make a sepuc

[The black]

The more constructive the relations of Russia with Japan and other countries of the Asia-Pacific region will be, the better it will affect the quantity and quality of the military ships of the Pacific Navy that can be deployed in the Kuril Islands ..

The more powerful our fleet and army will be, the more constructive our Japanese friends will behave.

[MARK]

Come on Shoigu, push it ..! They thought with their sanctions and provocations to bring Russia to their knees ... They forgot the story, we only rally more and concentrate

[max73]

Well, the news is not just, but with subtext .... and even let them rage ....

[PKK]

Apparently, Japanese expert mosquitoes do not understand what is needed, humanly, and not by tyranny, of modern over Japanese people.

[MARK]

Quote: max73

“Bal” and “Bastion” coastal missile systems, unmanned aerial vehicles will be deployed.

AUG Shtatovsky we will scold .. And then they have been there lately as hosts and feel the group is building up!

[Vladimirets]

Quote: oleg-gr

Here is a scream and there will be tantrums

Only if you listen to tantrums. My IMHO, there is no need to base the Navy there, maybe a power base is needed, but for a constant, in direct view of the adversary?

[Suhow]

not special, but I think something small but powerful there will not be superfluous, such as missile boats, for example, and even something from an aging Air Force. Forces for the primary deterrence and designation of intentions, but something more serious and seriously guarded on the mainland.

[Werterex]

I don’t understand the essence of kipesh!))) Russia has the right to deploy its armed forces on its territory wherever it wants! And we will leave the reaction of Japan to the Japanese! They want to get involved, let them get involved ... I don’t see any obstacles .....

[gergi]

It is high time. Each island is an unsinkable aircraft carrier, if it is also armed to the teeth, generally fine. These are our bastions on the far reaches, control over a huge part of the Pacific Ocean. Pursuing all their concerns, the Russian Federation on the territory of the Russian Federation may or may not do whatever it pleases. Nobody decree us. Let them first deal with Okinawa, otherwise they will soon evict all the natives from there, and everything goes to that. Here let them shout and banzai.

[Blondy]

Kuzhugetych, would wear a hat - must have removed. There is such a wonderful bay of Broughton. Successes. Let the men try again not to make a mess. There, over twenty years, everything is so healthy.

[Marconi41]

I was in Broughton a couple of years ago, a terrible sight. The abandoned base, you can make films about the apocalypse. Maybe they really will stop you.

[Maxom75]

There should be a coast guard. It is necessary to protect marine resources and it is time to close its economic zone for fishing by foreign vessels.

[Was mammoth]

Quote: Maxom75

There should be a coast guard ....

I don’t remember the name, but there is a feature film about the struggle of Soviet border guards with Japanese poachers. Of course, not without spies.

[Maxom75]

Legislation needs to be changed and clarified regarding the fight against poaching. One could introduce the following interpretation: Consider as a means of illegal fishing for seafood, tackle, processing equipment, vessels and other auxiliary mechanisms. All illicit means are to be disposed of by recycling (vessels are processed for scrap, equipment for fiber, etc.). When a couple of seiners are cut into scrap at the team, the owners will begin to wonder if it is worth breaking the law. What is more expensive seiner or one-time catch?

[Blondy]

Quote: Maxom75

There should be a coast guard. It is necessary to protect marine resources and it is time to close its economic zone for fishing by foreign vessels.

No, guys, take it cooler. There is one gorgeous place on the island of Simushir, the bay or Broughton Bay. In principle, before the year 94, it was either a secret or half-soviet Soviet base of the KTOF, in general, the people knew, but did not advertise. If you attach the pens, the logistics, however, will turn out gold, then there you can make a strategic base like Vilyuchensk. The only and superbly protected place in the Far East with access directly to the Pacific Ocean (without any seas and straits) - and this is a bullet in the ass for the entire APR, especially the States, from Seattle to Pearl Harbor.

[yuriy55]

Something like this:

[Starina_hank]

When the ships appear there, for blondes not even the golden, but the diamond age will begin !! One blonde for 100 men, you can even female tour. organize trips! Here, there are no Primorye people ??

[Starina_hank]

When the ships appear there, for blondes not even the golden, but the diamond age will begin !! One blonde for 100 men, you can even female tour. organize trips! Here, there are no Primorye people ??

[Evgeniy667b]

And where do foreign ships, their poachers, are even worse! One way or another, the vast majority of production goes to Japan, Korea or China. Everything else is arrogant selfishness. And they do not care about the reproduction of biological resources. He grabbed, and there’s even a flood. They are also covered. Was Valery Gamov simply removed?

[max2215]

You do not own the information, you need something to blurt out about poachers, they blurt out. Poachers are those who did not pay for the border service of the Far East. A bought FSBshnik is a potential traitor. This is where the Augean stables of corruption ....
Regarding the bases on the Kuril Islands, this is really a wise decision, because the Sea of ​​Japan, sorry for the comparison, a puddle, without access to the oceans: the Tatar Strait is shallow, Laperuza in case of war will be blocked by both our side and the Japanese, Sangarsky, Tsushima, it’s clear that will be blocked. But Kamchatka and the Kuril Islands are both an exit for submarines and NKs to the World Ocean, and control over almost the entire North Pacific. I won’t lie at the expense of Broughton, when Ivas was caught in that area, there were no movements (87g), maybe there was a submarine base, but the maps on the maps were shallow, which was about 1.5 meters, although at the entrance the depths immediately broke off at 700m - it was used to be a volcano.

[Gregazov]

Do not want to put up yourself, we will force peace at the military bases on the Kuril Islands. Moreover, as long as we have time to build before the signing of the peace treaty, so much will remain forever.

[Lieutenant Izhe]

Moreover, as long as we have time to build before the signing of the peace treaty, so much will remain forever.

and AFTER (signing) ... WHO will prohibit Russia from strengthening its defenses on the islands ???

[subbtin.725]

Quote: oleg-gr

That cry will be hysterical ..... Fun ahead.

And what will they say in the city of Kuev?

[Pirogov]

Quote: oleg-gr

Here is a scream and there will be tantrums. The Japanese are digesting the news. Undoubtedly, Europe will vote. Fun ahead.

It had to be done for a long time, but let them shout about screaming, screaming, etc. , you might think America and the EU once silent.

[GYGOLA]

I’ve written here about Shoigu. Someone didn’t understand the campaign. My opinion remains that.

[skrabplus.ru]

the State Department (in the picture forgotten ssaki ...) will definitely express concern

[Wolverine]

Shoigu handsome, keeps his hand on the pulse clearly, works ahead of schedule respect him ...

[g1v2]

What he voiced was planned 6-8 years ago. A squadron of 6 corps 20380 at the Pacific Fleet was planned precisely for the defense of the Kuril Islands. As for the Bastion, it is not clear, and the Ball has been there since last summer - there were pictures of its unloading on one of the islands. Which one is the secret. In theory, the Pacific Fleet should receive the first 2 "corvettes" this year.

[Oprychnik]

This is not the merit of Shoigu. He carries out teams and expert advice. Currently, the Sea of ​​Okhotsk is under our jurisdiction, since quite recently.
And before that? "According to the UN decision, from March 15, 2014, a site in the central part of the Sea of ​​Okhotsk was transferred to Russia. How did it happen that a" no-man's "water area was formed in the center of the sea? sovereignty over an enclave in the Sea of ​​Okhotsk; and wars with foreign poachers.

The UN recognized 52 thousand square kilometers of the Sea of ​​Okhotsk as part of the Russian shelf // RIA Novosti. 15.03.2014/XNUMX/XNUMX.
http://ria.ru/economy/20140315/999591890.html

[dauria]

Shoigu handsome, keeps his hand on the pulse clearly,

Well, that's it ... They got it. Are you people? Are you ready to pray for the figurine of the son of a party functionary who is spread by the media?
How many of you have read the biography? He did not even serve in the army.
Dad Kozhuget was the secretary of the Tuva regional committee of the CPSU, and as a result, after graduation, he actually immediately became the director of the construction trust.
He obediently did not buckle neither under Yeltsin nor under Putin.
Tfu, yes Serdyuk even made a peasant act- ... he started a slut for himself.

[Koronik]

* Well, that's it ... Got it. What are you, people? "
Yes, here we are, dear, you do not understand this people, you live in the wrong country.

[krops777]

How many of you have read the biography? He did not even serve in the army.
Dad Kozhuget was the secretary of the Tuva regional committee of the CPSU, and as a result, after graduation, he actually immediately became the director of the construction trust.
He obediently did not buckle neither under Yeltsin nor under Putin.


And this one served

Kozhuget Ministry of Emergencies created from scratch, the army is out at what level, only a strong and strong-willed person is capable of this.

[Alexey RA]

Quote: krops777

Kozhuget Ministry of Emergencies created from scratch, the army is out at what level, only a strong and strong-willed person is capable of this.

To be absolutely precise, the Ministry of Emergency Situations, when created, received as a base the entire Civil Defense of the Russian Federation and the control and rescue services.

[RUSS]

Quote: Alexey RA

To be absolutely precise, the Ministry of Emergency Situations, when created, received as a base the entire Civil Defense of the Russian Federation and the control and rescue services.

By the way, in no country in the world there is such a Ministry of Emergencies ....

[krops777]

To be absolutely precise, the Ministry of Emergency Situations, when created, received as a base the entire Civil Defense of the Russian Federation and the control and rescue services.

I got this one thing, but for everything to work as it should, how much effort I had to make.

[Blondy]

Quote: Alexey RA

To be absolutely precise, the Ministry of Emergency Situations, when created, received as a base the entire Civil Defense of the Russian Federation and the control and rescue services.

Well, tell me at the same time in what condition these services were, with the exception of departmental services, which, in my opinion, were not transmitted then.

[Starina_hank]

Serega is a normal kid! If necessary, shorter haircut, on the armored personnel carrier and forward.

[Starina_hank]

Serega is a normal kid! If necessary, shorter haircut, on the armored personnel carrier and forward.

[AID.S]

Quote: dauria

Well, that's it ... They got it. What are you, people? The figure of the son of the party functionary is already m

Oh, he’s good that there are no frank and undisguised corruption-criminal actions on him. You don’t hear about Shoigu’s offshore, about Shoigu’s millions, about Shoigu’s real estate. Yes, he started with Yeltsin, but dad moved. in the Soviet sense, it works where the party puts, but it is interested in sweets in moderation and rank.

[dauria]

.Yes, he started at Yeltsin, but dad moved. But he can lead.

Well, yes, such as Varennikov Valentin Ivanovich in our army did not remain. Yes, they stayed, only now they will not be put anywhere. Have you ever wondered why?

[AID.S]

Each time has its own heroes ...

[Oprychnik]

It's funny. If you haven’t heard anything about it, it’s quite obvious that there are no “corruption and criminal actions”. Applause...

[proud]

People are judged by deeds and not by kinship! I was kicked by who his father was, and most importantly who moved him and how, Serdyukov also pushed father-in-law, while the result of both working in the same post is different from day to night! Let him not be a military man by training but just a good and competent business executive who was able to recruit such people into his team with the help of which such brilliant operations were developed and carried out as in the Crimea and Syria! It was under him that we again began to love and are proud of our army, and the military is our service! I don’t know how and who, and I am sincerely proud of such a defense minister!

[AllXVahhaB]

Quote: dauria

He did not even serve in the army.

So everyone who went through the military department at the university — they left the reserve officers. So what? Tens of thousands of such storerooms were under the USSR. But Serdyukov 2 years urgent delayed and what does it mean?

[Starina_hank]

This suggests that he did not enter the university the first time, he studied poorly at school.

[Starina_hank]

This suggests that he did not enter the university the first time, he studied poorly at school.

[AllXVahhaB]

Quote: dauria

Dad Kozhuget was the secretary of the Tuva regional committee of the CPSU

The editor of the district newspaper, so ...

Quote: dauria

as a result, after the institute, he actually immediately became the director of the construction trust.

9 years old is it "almost immediately"?)))

[Stas]

Minus from me for disrespect for the Russian language. By using a mixture of Russian and English words, you emphasize your lack of vocabulary or contempt for the Russian language. If you want to "show off" your knowledge of English, then write on it. "RESPECT" (which you write in Cyrillic) literally translates from English RESPECT.
And the fact that Shoigu is well done - I agree. Sincerely.

[Cheshire]

But Kuzhugetych is not a miss!
And GDP once again proves its grandmaster title. Nice, however.

[vsoltan]

And the Chinese quite on time strained everyone. ..

[vsoltan]

It seems that the planned mutual visits of the power holders will not take place

[Cheshire]

Given the high and inadequate expectations of the Japanese from this visit, I will be glad that they will not come true.
And given the past facts of the assassination attempts in Japan on the Russians, including the emperor, perhaps this is for the better.

[vsoltan]

Yeah. ..Nicholas II also became famous for his visit to Japan at 1894, it seems? However, before the coronation. ..

[Grabberxnumx]

The Japanese said here that it would be nice to conclude a peace treaty with the transfer of the South Caucasus islands, while the former residents are alive.
But we have a lot of patience and there is still time .. Let's wait ..

[Kasym]

If you look from the side of the Japanese, then it's time for KARAUL to shout. The PRC with its bulk islands and airfields with air defense. North Korea fires missiles and announces a hydrogen bomb. Now the Russian Federation is deploying "BALs" and "BASTIONs" on the Kuril Islands, the Navy must be supposed to go there with Calibers (with time). They screwed up the Japanese. . Now Tokyo will sharply raise the budget of the Moscow Region. The US will call for an increase in aircraft. Poachers are also unlikely to like it. Maybe it's time for the Japanese to forget about the Kuril Islands and sign a peace treaty? With a base in the Kuril Islands and an aircraft carrier, you may not need to (over time, you can stir up the airfield). Like Crimea in the Black Sea, Kaliningrad in the Baltic.

[dchegrinec]

It seems that it is necessary to equip the Kuril Islands to the maximum, including military facilities. Someone will have less temptation to engage in extortion.

[kuz363]

The main thing is to get ahead of Dvorkovich until he sold the islands. And it would be nice to cut down a forest in a local camp

[1536]

The Minister of Defense is a man of business. Said - done. It is strange that this idea had never occurred to anyone in the government before. One chatter and complete inaction.

[stars China]

In Japan declared mourning for an indefinite time ....

[iliitchitch]

Give up the northern territories, you say? But they offered joint use (there were "patriots" in the 90s) and it could have worked. And now everything - figuratively speaking, a hammer and a nail sotochka (Pacific Fleet in the Kuril Islands) - the shortest path to the samurai brain. We have not forgotten anything - we remember about Sakhalin, and about "Varyag" with "Korean" and much more. Keep silent to the Japanese.

[tiredwithall]

Protecting is good. It is still necessary to develop the Far East.

[Uncle lee]

There are no convenient bays in the Kuril Islands to accommodate a large fleet. Type PSKR-please. But at the Bastions to arrange Balls, the Japanese are very out of place!

So Sivkov writes about boat forces.

[hekius]

I don’t agree there is a very convenient Broughton Bay on the island of Simushir, in which back in Soviet times it was supposed to build a naval base of the Pacific Fleet!

[reservist]

Quote: hekius

Broughton Bay on Simushir Island

[reservist]

Quote: hekius

in Soviet times it was supposed to build a naval base of the Pacific Fleet!

Apparently they did not have time to build a full-fledged base, but the village was there ...

[Uncle lee]

Base on the slope of the volcano and imported water! Not everything is convenient, which is beautiful!

[hekius]

volcanoes in Hawaii too and nothing! plus energy can be done on the basis of geothermal energy, but you still have to build everything from scratch, and this is unrealistic in the next 20 years)

[Uncle lee]

You can not compare the climate in Hawaii and the Kuril Islands. One ice setting is worth it. Back in May, Laperuza Ave. was filled with ice; the passenger does not always reach the South Kuril Islands. As well as constant fogs and rains, snowstorms in winter, planes do not fly for two weeks. There is a difference ?

[kuz363]

Put a mobile nuclear power plant and all things. There will be electricity, heat. You can also desalinate seawater. Now there are such nuclear power plants.

[colonel manuch]

Well, first of all, yours is not true. There is enough space for basing the "mosquito fleet", with its current capabilities in the Kuril Islands, only on Shikotan Island there are three large bays, there are also on other islands. I had to be, I know. Small ships are more useful here, they able to cover the coastal component, and the presence of a strong coastal component of the Navy will discourage any foe from inviting us to "visit" us.

[Zubr]

Great solution! Now to solve the problem of staying personnel on the islands is not a problem. Modular residential blocks are mounted quickly, as well as hangars with warehouses. A question of roads, convenient bays and good air defense. Local waters are very rich, I think there will be no problems with food.

[iliitchitch]

Quote: Zubr

Great solution! Now to solve the problem of staying personnel on the islands is not a problem. Modular residential blocks are mounted quickly, as well as hangars with warehouses. A question of roads, convenient bays and good air defense. Local waters are very rich, I think there will be no problems with food.

And what kind of unemployment will be among the Japanese-Chinese-Korean poachers ...

[Former battalion commander]

And what kind of unemployment will be

As practice shows, mostly Russians poach and drag the catch to the Japs ... But anyway, if there is a base there, the poaching will be reduced.

[Starina_hank]

I will tell you a secret, the military does not engage in poachers and the protection of marine resources! Previously, naval units of the border troops were engaged in this, but now I do not know.

[Pvi1206]

This is an unambiguous answer to Russia regarding the ownership of the Kuril Islands, to which Japan claims.

[Primus pilus]

The most important thing is that with the Kuril Prima the exit to the Pacific Ocean.

[RUSS]

Quote: Primus Pilus

The most important thing is that with the Kuril Prima the exit to the Pacific Ocean.

Captain obvious

[Mountain shooter]

As for the convenient bays on the islands - I have not heard. And to keep the ships closer to the nonfreezing straits, covering for Pacific Fleet access to the Pacific Ocean - this is straightforward. The airfield at Iturup is already operating. There are convenient bays on Shikotan. Probably there is on Iturup. Good start.

[maxim1987]

the main thing is to base something

[Starik72]

The decision is right! The Kuril Islands are the coastline of OUR Sea of ​​Okhotsk, and WE have the right to protect and place what we want there !!! Wherever we want, we put our boots there, even in the kitchen, even on the table or in the hallway.

[Former battalion commander]

Listen, and Belarusians, what side to these islands? Or are you from Belarus only sending messages, but the Russian themselves?

[Camel]

Well, yes, the mess with the flags is already tired of the order.

[MstislavHrabr]

For me, the best news would not be trolling the Japanese, but the direct placement of ships. But before building the base, it is worth considering the seismic stability of the islands.

[Igor39]

Sakura blossomed in Japan
And in the Kuril Islands something will happen to the Russians,
But not everyone knows about it,
Not only not everyone knows about it,
But some take care to know about it.

[igorek4515]

I’m wondering .. And what kind of ships did they decide to place there ..? On the Pacific Fleet, you can count the ships on the fingers of one hand .. And who is there to hysteria ..? Is it for the Japanese ..? They have a fleet many times stronger than the Pacific ..

[goblin xnumx]

do not spoil the holiday:) - they defeated Syria, we will break it and Yapov :) otherwise you are not a patriot :(

[ENG-MAN]

I’m wondering, but approximately how much it costs to build or create an artificial island?

[Former battalion commander]

It depends on where to create ... If near the Japanese in the Mariinsky Depression, then first you need to fall asleep 11 km of depth ...

[aleksey980]

Ask on the net how much it costs a month of dredging. Multiply by at least 4, because it’s not possible to do one thing, and then multiply it by at least 8-10 (for supply and maintenance, shift work, etc.) and ISO certification, then you can multiply by another 20-30-50 And you will have the cost of a month of work, and how much is transported, the quality (amount of money) depends on the area.

[Was mammoth]

I honestly do not understand what a peace treaty is? Japan capitulated? Surrendered. What other peace treaty? History cannot be reversed. The Japanese had a chance to master not only the Kuril Islands, but also the Far East. But, before the arrival of the Russians. The Russians came, the train left. The Kuril Islands is now a strategic point militarily. And not only in relation to Japan. The Kuril Islands are the richest regions. Any compromise on Kuril membership is treason.
Our land is "Kurilinash!"

[Haloperidol]

There are no large bays on the Kuril Islands, and tsunamis are not uncommon in those places. The RF Pacific Fleet is currently going through hard times, many old ships have been decommissioned, and new ones have not yet been built. The military garrisons located on the islands themselves can be strengthened, but ships should not be placed too close to Japan, and one should not forget how the military airfields and warehouses located too close to the border were destroyed with lightning speed or captured in 1941. If I were to solve this issue, I would strengthen the air defense of the islands and deploy coastal missile and artillery mounts on them, with anti-ship missiles, anti-aircraft missile systems, anti-aircraft missile systems and tactical missiles, and I entrusted this entire economy from enemy assault forces with well-trained marine corps consisting of contractors -profi. On some islands there are airdromes that require modernization, which is necessary for the safety of military transport aviation flights. This is what needs to be done, and I would not have to transfer warships to the Kuril Islands, except perhaps small missile boats, and even that after the replenishment and rearmament of the Pacific Fleet.

[RUSS]

Quote: Haloperidol

If I were to solve this issue, I would strengthen the air defense of the islands

You are a little late ....
The air defense units of the Eastern Military District, deployed on the islands of the Kuril ridge, took up combat duty at the Tor - M2U complexes, said Colonel Alexander Gordeev, head of the press service of the Eastern Military District.

Quote: Haloperidol

and he ordered well-trained units of the marine corps to protect all this economy from enemy assault forces

2016 year.
68th Army Corps:
-18th machine gun and artillery division (p. Goryachie Klyuchi, Kuril Islands, Sakhalin Region)
-39th separate motorized rifle Red Banner brigade (Yuzhno-Sakhalinsk)

[Andrew3000]

And we matured, and we lit
Not anywhere else, but beyond the Kuril Islands,
The letter comes here, sometimes three months,
But I know for sure that it will reach me.

[atamankko]

The Kuril Islands are Russia, and that’s it. But Shoigu did well.

[BOB044]

Our base of Pacific Fleet in the Kuril Islands is death for Japan. Their dream of returning the Kuril Islands was covered with a copper basin.

[hartlend]

The statement is more political, you can not post anything, but collect dividends from the statement. And you can silently place it on your territory, we have the right.

[Prisoner]

The number of those concerned will really increase. Although why should we care? How many have you been told "guys, let's live together"? You don't understand good words. Maybe you will at least understand that you cannot put pressure on Russia. She doesn't like it. Ferstein, andetent, 理解?

[igorek4515]

I’m wondering .. And what kind of ships were they planning to place on the Kuril Islands .. At the Pacific Fleet, there are still ships left, on the fingers you can count .. With what one hand ..

[Koronik]

Good news, you also need a pier for our submarines and submarines to build and close the Sea of ​​Okhotsk.

[Zomanus]

The news is great.
The question is at what stage is now the restoration of infrastructure.
For the equipment, and the personnel must be kept in proper conditions.
And so the Ball / Bastion + C-400 / Carapace themselves ask there.

[From Tver]

But it becomes quite interesting.

[From Samara]

The Japanese fleet is still strong ... Yes, and the Air Force Akhovye ...

[lopvlad]

It is high time. Russia should use all opportunities to maintain the security of its territories. Especially in conditions when the US is intensively deploying missile defense elements in South Korea.

[twincam]

Kuzhugetich Krosava.

[goblin xnumx]

Well, then it is necessary to dismiss the entire generals, for nothing they pay salaries, shoigu himself will decide for the General Staff, put out all the fires, it does not burn anywhere else, raised the Moscow region from its knees, and won all the enemies, three times a hero, by the way, "Arkhangelsk" and " severstal "cut or not?

[kig]

It is high time. It’s necessary to tumble money, but it's worth it.

[mamont5]

Quote: oleg-gr

Here is a scream and there will be tantrums. The Japanese are digesting the news. Undoubtedly, Europe will vote. Fun ahead.

But how nice.

[Arkan]

Sergei Shoigu: The possibilities of the prospective basing of the forces of the Pacific Fleet in the Kuril Islands are being studied

Here is the thing !!! It is high time! Let the Japanese fight in hysterics. The deployment of part of the Pacific Fleet forces in the Kuril Islands will give Russia full control over the straits. Let's not forget that the Japanese armed forces can now be used outside of Japan.

[tundra]

Quote: Oprychnik

Why did foreign ships “tailor-made” clean up our resources? The history of the long-term struggle of the Russian Federation for the return of sovereignty over the enclave in the Sea of ​​Okhotsk and the war with foreign poachers.

Even such a great Pacific power, like poland, sent its trawlers to the Sea of ​​Okhotsk.

[dvg1959]

In the 90s, the number of military units in the Kuril Islands was significantly reduced. At present, the increase in the number of our troops in the Kuril Islands is simply necessary. This is due to the buildup of NATO military capabilities in the east and, in particular, in Japan.
Last year, the Burevestnik airfield was restored on Iturup Island, which is capable of receiving heavy aircraft. Other military facilities are being restored. The infrastructure of military camps is being restored, material support is being established. In general, work is underway and this is important for our defense capability. Formations of the Navy on the Kuril Islands are also necessary, and they need to be created as quickly as possible, because our "partners" are active in this region and in this direction.

[dvg1959]

Our military units in the Kuril Islands have always been. In the 90s, their number was greatly reduced, and now our military power in the Kuril Islands is being restored and improved according to the latest words, this is very important.
And let the Japanese do not spread their lips. We won’t give the Kuril Islands to them, even if they don’t rob them in Khabamai.

[colonel manuch]

Let it be so ! There are more than enough places for basing natural and comfortable. On a number of islands, coastal fortifications and warehouses built by the Japanese have remained almost untouched, there are places for airdromes. Sergey Kozhukhetovich knows what he is doing! More, there would be such ministers!

[mayhem]

A worthy solution, would place the Iskander there, strengthen air defense, modernize airfields and you can sleep peacefully.

[trantor]

This is a normal decision for a "regional" power. At first, in Syria, they got rid of calluses, now they have shifted by half a ball and here we’ll give someone our fingers. What's next? The Arctic already exists, it remains in Antarctica, Africa and Latin America to outline the boundaries of the "region".

[Evil 55]

Everyone should feel the effect of the presence of Russia, and the Andreevsky flag is simply obliged to know .. and the grizzly bear, and the panda, and the African elephant, and the Peruvian condor ... in the 18-19 centuries the Russian ship in the Pacific was rarely seen, but everyone was wary of the polls ..

[maximon2005]

Such news as balm on the heart. And call the naval base of Sakura, with respect to the Japanese.

[Old warrior]

They will manage - the Japanese still haven’t answered us for Tsushima ...

[AGV Pagan]

National Security Above All! And the Japanese themselves are to blame, it’s necessary to go less under the US ....

[Lily]

And why only on the Great Kuril ridge ?! There is also the Small Kuril Ridge. And what does the quantity and quality of Pacific Fleet located in the Kuril Islands and good relations with the Japanese have to do with it. Either the senator has little knowledge of history and geography, or a national traitor.

[Wolka]

And what exactly is the panic, our territory is where we want it and we are placing it according to deployment plans, the Yankees don’t ask us when they set up their bases anywhere in the world, and mind you, not on their own, but on someone else’s territory...

[Konstantin Yu]

Without the ability to defend the borders... sooner or later they will be lost. The idea is necessary, if the ministers won’t be stupid, it should turn out beautifully...

[Vovavvs]

And the Japanese mothers should answer that we take an example from them: it seems like they began to militarize the disputed islands on the border with China, and God himself ordered us.. But the Kuril Islands should have long ago been separated into a separate entity from Sakhalin (like Sevastopol ), which will have a positive impact on their development.

[Vovavvs]

It’s high time to cover up the West’s hopes of organizing a “traffic jam” for Russia at the exit to the Pacific Ocean!

[Dax]

Finally, we are not ashamed of the authorities, now they are b-shniki, now they have outwitted themselves, now they are traitors and stupid people. The current Shoigu and GDP are young fellows. There is no point in chewing snot, especially when the truth is behind us.