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This week, President Obama visited Cuba, actively covered by the American and world press. It is indicated that this is the first visit of the current leader of the United States for 88 years. A curious incident, in which the Cuban leader Raul Castro turned out his hand too much to the superpower president who had allowed himself, became a kind of illustration of American-Cuban relations, when one tries to use his hands and the other intercepts. Although without this symbolic case, it was clear only by the meager comments of the officials that a radical breakthrough in relations could not be achieved. The parties were rather cold about mutual initiatives, although they noted a marked warming in relations.



President Obama’s visit to Liberty Island had many opponents in the United States itself, and it would hardly have happened at any other time. But today, the current White House owner has almost nothing to lose - his rating is plummeting, and there is not much time left on the post. Outgoing history Barack Obama, obviously, set himself the goal of establishing primary bilateral ties, in order to then write down in the final asset at least the restoration of relations with such an important country as Cuba.

The leadership of Cuba is interested in a few simple things from the United States: lifting the trade and technological embargo, investment, and finally, the issue of Guantanamo. Solving these issues is not easy. Both sides are held captive by rigid ideological attitudes. The principle of the Americans: “You give us everything that we need, and in response, we will give something to you, but only what will be beneficial to us. And not immediately. Cubans can not agree to this. First, with unconditional surrender to the people, it will be difficult to explain how the current government differs from the long overthrown Batista regime. Secondly, even if the current leadership of Cuba completely bends under the demands of the Americans, Washington will still strive for a change of power on Liberty Island with the creation of its own client regime. So Havana will almost certainly not accept all the conditions of the States, and those, in turn, will uphold many of the sanctions.

Sharply separates the parties and the question of Guantanamo. Washington is strongly interested in maintaining its foothold in the region. Havana, on the contrary, is striving, if not to completely remove the base, then at least limit the duration of its facilities on Cuban soil. Guantanamo today remains a unique territory, the status of which is regulated not by modern international law, but by occupation-colonial treaties of a long gone era. The so-called "perpetual lease" has been operating since 1903 and the US military is unlikely to give up its right to use this land, because control of Guantanamo allows you to project power to the entire Caribbean region much more effectively than similar actions from southern Florida. In the United States, they have not forgotten the beating that their merchants arranged the fleet German submarines are on their own shores, as the Caribbean crisis remembers, so there is a reverent attitude towards the security of the "internal circuit". We must not forget that even the old colonial powers, which had greatly weakened in the post-war period, still have their possessions in the Caribbean. Such territories contain England, France and the Netherlands. Actively eyeing the region is China, which not only bears plans for its own transoceanic canal in Nicaragua, but is actively present in the same Cuba. In this sense, the desire of the American establishment to get the second unsinkable aircraft carrier in the Caribbean after Puerto Rico is understandable.

Money and freedom


Base Guantanamo on the map.


In addition, Guantanamo is of exceptional value due to its dual status. On the one hand, this is the extraterritorial possession of the United States, to which American sovereignty extends. On the other hand, Guantanamo does not belong to the territory of the United States itself, where, for example, torture is prohibited. This ambivalence played a role in creating the famous Islamist prison, which has not been closed until now, although President Obama gave the appropriate order in 2009 year.

Among other things, Cuba is important not only in geopolitical terms, but also as one of the few remaining free markets, which is extremely important for the American economy. Especially, it concerns the consumer goods market.
However, whether the United States needs Cuba is still a big question. No, the islanders, of course, will not give up American investment and, as follows from News, American firms begin to gradually return to the island. This is an inevitable process. In general, changes were inevitable from the moment Raul Castro came to power, which significantly lifted a number of prohibitions, both for Cuban citizens themselves and for foreign tourists. But it is unlikely that Havana will decide after this and on political concessions for pro-American forces. Hardly anyone wants another “color revolution” there.

Summing up the visit, we can say that the Americans achieved what can be presented to the world as their limited success, after which Obama safely left for Argentina, whose new leader, Mauricio Macri, is a supporter of the alliance with the United States.
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  1. aszzz888
    aszzz888 25 March 2016 06: 48
    +12
    Raul Castro twisted his arm too much to a superpower president who allowed himself

    And a VERY INTERESTING continuation of this story, who watched. Raoul PUSHED in the back, towards the exit, gadgets. Thus, making it clear that the guest is not entirely pleasant, and it's time to "know the way home." laughing
    1. Serg 122
      Serg 122 25 March 2016 08: 16
      +6
      Raul Castro twisted his arm too much to a superpower president who allowed himself

      The "old man" (84 years old) Castro still has a very strong hand! Can afford to both "intercept" and "turn out" ... bully
      1. Tatar 174
        Tatar 174 25 March 2016 08: 35
        +12
        Well, he intercepted him, well done Castro! But Obama appeared in a trap and immediately gave up and dropped his hand limp, although he tried to keep a smile on his face. It’s funny.
    2. st25310
      st25310 25 March 2016 11: 23
      +3
      Raul Castro EXTENDED the arm of the superpower president, who had allowed himself to be too much. It’s good that I did NOT DISAPPEAR ...
  2. parusnik
    parusnik 25 March 2016 06: 50
    +7
    Most importantly, who will be after Raoul ...
    1. sa-ag
      sa-ag 25 March 2016 06: 54
      +6
      Quote: parusnik
      The most important thing is who will be after Raul.

      I suppose "restructuring and new thinking"
      1. Lyton
        Lyton 25 March 2016 08: 22
        +5
        Quote: sa-ag
        Quote: parusnik
        The most important thing is who will be after Raul.

        I suppose "restructuring and new thinking"

        Well, yes, only in American, I think they are already working on it.
        1. igor67
          igor67 25 March 2016 13: 16
          +3
          Quote: Lyton
          Quote: sa-ag
          Quote: parusnik
          The most important thing is who will be after Raul.

          I suppose "restructuring and new thinking"

          Well, yes, only in American, I think they are already working on it.

          Of course they think today Rolling Stone flew to Cuba with a free account, Mick Jager said that Obama was to warm up
      2. Tatar 174
        Tatar 174 25 March 2016 08: 38
        +6
        Quote: Lyton
        Well, yes, only in American, I think they are already working on it.

        I wish the Cubans Chinese wisdom!
        1. fennekRUS
          fennekRUS 25 March 2016 09: 46
          +3
          Quote: Tatar 174
          I wish the Cubans Chinese wisdom!

          Maybe it's better to strain and regain lost ground? The Cubans, unlike other “Latino” horses, did not change their horses on the crossing. Apologize and expand cooperation. You can't lose such a "tasty" place! (80 miles - with such an approach distance, no missile defense system will save, stupidly there will not be enough time)
          ps And the Ukrainian expansion will draw a symmetrical answer.
    2. gray smeet
      gray smeet 25 March 2016 09: 42
      +3
      Quote: parusnik
      Most importantly, who will be after Raoul ...


      Get ready grandson of Castro. Now he delves into the power structures.
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      2. gray smeet
        gray smeet 25 March 2016 10: 00
        +2
        Did real restructuring begin in Cuba?
        Cuba wants a Vietnamese option. What Obama wants is unknown. Moreover, the Union of Patriots of Cuba (UNPACU) is gaining strength inside the country, the people are gathering for meetings and rallies, demanding changes, and not a cosmetic "restructuring". The authorities declare new opportunities for small businesses, invite investors, but staff cleaning is inevitable in any case. It is necessary to catch egg thieves, especially since they stole millions from poultry factories, but bribes of late socialism and the well-fed life of officials annoy everyone. Doctors need to wear gifts, any official has a nightmare for a small shopkeeper. The monopoly of the state dominates small business, well, it is clear that Fidel and Raul will not be allowed into medicine and education of private individuals. And cars, large household appliances at ceiling prices, and other goods bring substantial sums to the treasury. Building materials go to shops, disappear sharply and then are sold with a left margin. The authorities are afraid to allow private traders to work in these positions, because the entire state trade may collapse. The Castro brothers were taught by the Soviet failure, but they do not want to depend on China and look to Vietnam. On the island there are private shoe factories, sewing shops, and, well, gray shop workers, who quickly fill in deficit positions with goods. There are many farmers, restaurants, houses and apartments for rent, hairdressers and taxi drivers, transportation and many more small businesses. But this is not enough. And there are too many bureaucrats! Probably there is an option with two parties, Castristas and Unpaku, then a smooth transition to a market system under tight control. The Chinese version of suppressing the opposition is not suitable for Cuba, the people are too impudent and hot-tempered.

        And for every Cuban Maidan there is immediately an anti-Maidan, people do not want to live in Haiti, with poverty and hunger.
        The Kiev version of the coup will probably not take place in Cuba.
        Obama desperately wants Cuba to "rebuild". And life makes Cubans move. You cannot live with the dominance of officials and bureaucrats. Small and medium-sized businesses are not allowed to work normally, although many restaurants, farms and other small things have been opened.
        Surely there will be a cleaning soon, normal laws will be accepted. A hundred thousand hectares will be cut off for foreigners or the island will be leased for 90 years. But there will be dramatic changes. And for the United States, these changes are needed. Presidential candidates can talk a lot, especially Rubio, he is a descendant of Cuban emigrants, but he is the first to attract investment to the island and destroy the embargo. Or Clintonsha wants to beat him. And the Cuban elite is very pragmatic. She will be friends with everyone, the main thing is that the island will be better off from this. But equating to China, there are no options. And the opposition, of course, already gets it. The US then sends them money stably. Rallies and screams throughout Cuba. Pull musicians to overthrow the Castro regime. And this is an alarming bell for the Cuban elite.

        1. gray smeet
          gray smeet 25 March 2016 10: 11
          0
          Well, here are some of the protests:
          1. gray smeet
            gray smeet 25 March 2016 10: 18
            0
            In YouTube, thousands of videos - UNPACU, but in my opinion they’ll clean it thoroughly, they’ve steamed to scream about the dictatorship! The people themselves will pound them.
            1. gray smeet
              gray smeet 25 March 2016 10: 24
              +1
              And yet Cuba is beautiful, they dance, damn it, they don’t take a steam bath:




              Anyone who wants to see Cuba as it is now should hurry up.
              1. gray smeet
                gray smeet 25 March 2016 10: 40
                0
                A few pictures of Havana from 2014.
                1. gray smeet
                  gray smeet 25 March 2016 10: 43
                  0
                  I can’t do a few pictures:
                  1. gray smeet
                    gray smeet 25 March 2016 10: 47
                    +1
                    Havana, Cuba 2014 ....
                  2. gladcu2
                    gladcu2 26 March 2016 16: 26
                    0
                    gray smith

                    Pay attention to the excellent quality of life at that minimum material resource that Kaba was able to afford in the conditions of the 60-year economic blockade.

                    This is buddy socialism. Society of Renewable Intellectual Resource.

                    The capitalists would have long been bent. These only know how to receive material resources without contributing to the resources of intellectual development.

                    Capitalists can only turn quantity into quality only for systemically elected or accidentally joined.
          2. gladcu2
            gladcu2 26 March 2016 16: 21
            0
            gray smith

            Chorus of people fooling around with all sorts of fakes.

            Tired of removing noodles from my ears.

            People will always be not satisfied to one degree or another, this is the key to development.

            Often all sorts of scammers use the fact that they promise a good life.
        2. siberalt
          siberalt 25 March 2016 10: 13
          0
          Damn, the singing monkey! belay
        3. gladcu2
          gladcu2 26 March 2016 16: 15
          0
          gray smith

          Cuba wants a quality change in life.

          In order to make a qualitative change in life, you need to use an intellectual resource, get material and change it qualitatively. To improve.

          A material resource can only be obtained through the means of production.

          You can take a loan, but this is a temporary solution.

          Americans do not need Cuban intelligence. They need Cuban material resources land.

          Therefore, when the Americans arrive there, the Cubans will be left as a race of servants without the possibility of development. Just to sweep the territory.
  3. inkass_98
    inkass_98 25 March 2016 06: 57
    +4
    Pumping liberas in Cuba will go with an even greater scale, this can be no doubt. The situation will sway, but amerikosy should not forget that it’s not Syria or Libya, the refugees will trample it to the States, and there’s a distance, a little more than 90 miles. This is where the delights of illegal and mass migration can come out.
  4. Masya masya
    Masya masya 25 March 2016 07: 06
    +5
    Previously, the duck only limped, and now the wing has been broken, flying with one wing ... lol
  5. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 25 March 2016 07: 14
    +4
    Cuba has always been a pain in the butt of the mattress. Gorby with EBN mediocrely "surrendered" the island, leaving it to the mercy of fate. The Cubans did not "bend" and withstood the blow. But will they really give up when the situation has "softened"? Barack failed to "push" the issue. Who can? Hilary's "incarnate witch" really?
  6. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 25 March 2016 07: 32
    +1
    Washington is strongly interested in maintaining its bridgehead in the region.

    Naturally. therefore, the light movements of America toward Cuba. But while the old guard is still alive on Liberty Island, they will not fall under the Americans.
    1. hard rock
      hard rock 26 March 2016 18: 40
      -3
      Quote: rotmistr60
      But while the old guard is still alive on Liberty Island, they will not fall under the Americans.

      They will lie down and already run. It's getting hungry in Cuba. But this is nonsense, not nonsense, this is something that the "castroates" themselves become uncomfortable with. After all, the price of oil has fallen, so the chavists of Venezuela can no longer sponsor them in the same volumes. There are no other money "friends" on the horizon. So the castroates decided to become friends with America. First, tourists, and in Cuba, it is customary to "undress" tourists, it is very expensive to rest there in tourist areas.
      And then it’s time for physiological reasons to come. And behind them, at least a flood. But there will be no flood, there will be a brothel. The one that was once. And as a result, everything will return to square one.
      The question arises, what for? What for was this whole Cuban bummer? What for were all these victims, if everything was as it once was, it will be so. Only people in vain suffered for 60 years, toiled garbage under the name "building socialism". You say the sacrifices are in vain?
      But nifiga. Nifiga is not in vain. All these 60 years the "new aristocracy of castroates" lived beautifully. It was a great time for her. And the people? And what about the people? People, these are the ones whose opinion nobody cares about. The main thing for the people is to work more, eat less and wear pants with shoes longer. It is also desirable to live in a kennel. These are all its main functions under "socialism" in peacetime, in short.
      However, another option is not excluded (extremely unlikely). This is the coming to power by a "palace coup" by a certain Don Yossi Dzhugashvili. Well, about the same as it once was in the USSR, when the "old Bolsheviks" overthrew Trotsky, and then one cunning pockmarked katso chicked these "old Bolsheviks". Then, of course, "socialism" in Cuba will linger. Half of the population will go to the camps to work 7 days a week for 14 hours for a bowl of stew a day and a place on a bunk at night (everything is like in the USSR). The other half (without a very small% of the "new aristocracy") will work 6 days a week for 10 hours. For 2 bowls of chowder a day, and this will be happy (everything, like in the USSR). In such a regime, Cuba can last quite a long time, the USSR lived in this regime for 25 years, right up to the death of katso. But no matter how long the string twists, everything will return to the bodel. Only the population will suffer in vain. So it's better right now. So, it will be more honest.
      1. gorefest7777
        gorefest7777 27 March 2016 21: 24
        0
        Well, where did such profound knowledge of Cuban reality come from?
      2. gorefest7777
        gorefest7777 27 March 2016 21: 27
        0
        The primitiveness of reasoning about the Soviet Union of the Soviet era once again emphasizes your Russophobic essence, yes, by the way, change your nickname, do not disgrace hard rock, it’s definitely not in business, take a nickname
        1. hardroc
          hardroc 27 March 2016 22: 28
          -1
          Quote: gorefest7777
          Soviet times once again emphasizes your Russophobic essence

          Russians, these are not scoops. And the scoops are not Russian. These are not identical concepts. Therefore, the term "Russophobia" is completely inappropriate here.
  7. Dmitry Potapov
    Dmitry Potapov 25 March 2016 08: 11
    +2
    Quote: aszzz888
    Raul Castro twisted his arm too much to a superpower president who allowed himself

    And a VERY INTERESTING continuation of this story, who watched. Raoul PUSHED in the back, towards the exit, gadgets. Thus, making it clear that the guest is not entirely pleasant, and it's time to "know the way home." laughing

    In Russian it is called "lowered" below the plinth. Bravo, Castro!
  8. Kenneth
    Kenneth 25 March 2016 08: 14
    0
    Well. Minus Cuba. Whatever Castro was pushing, but the Cuban economy cannot live in isolation. We merged from there, the Americans will come.
  9. Philemon
    Philemon 25 March 2016 08: 19
    +4
    This is not just a photo ... This is a symbol of future changes ... "Fashington was caught for lascivious little hands ..." There is also the look of the winner Raoul ... And Obama's very crooked smile ... There is so much symbolism that I think this is a photo for centuries...
    1. Kenneth
      Kenneth 25 March 2016 10: 31
      +1
      Raul is a very old grandfather. What he wanted to portray is a debatable question. A much more interesting question is who will be after it.
    2. Kenneth
      Kenneth 25 March 2016 10: 31
      +1
      Raul is a very old grandfather. What he wanted to portray is a debatable question. A much more interesting question is who will be after it.
  10. Baloo
    Baloo 25 March 2016 08: 33
    +7
    Remember how foolishly fucked up with another beat, another stake. And this alcoholic degeneration also put a monument !?

    Respect and respect Raul Castro, worthy leader of Cuba. hi drinks
  11. tundra
    tundra 25 March 2016 09: 12
    +2
    I want to ask about the Chinese
    Something about the channel is not heard.
    What do they think there?
    Enlighten, otherwise I didn’t find anything.
    Maybe I was looking badly?
    And Raul, of course, is a valid grandpa!
    Reminds me of our grandfathers, war veterans,
    with an unbendable shaft.
    1. gray smeet
      gray smeet 25 March 2016 11: 55
      +1
      Quote: tundra
      I want to ask about the Chinese
      Something about the channel is not heard.
      What do they think there?
      Enlighten, otherwise I didn’t find anything.
      Maybe I was looking badly?


      I inform you - the Chinese make shovels and, as tools come in, form brigades of laborers. The work is planned in four shifts! Indians are weaned from coca leaves, put on longboats and taken to China for training!
      Everything goes according to the Chinese plan! Wait, commissioning coming soon! wassat
  12. Ros 56
    Ros 56 25 March 2016 09: 21
    +2
    This is another field of activity for our Foreign Ministry, because there are issues that can only be solved with the Cubans. Indeed, in Cuba, excellent medicine, as far as I read in the media. In short, if you wish, you can always find the interaction points, only you need to work. It is clear that a crane with oil is easier to sit with a pocket open.
    Yes, and a wonderful base is at hand near the states, here is a cooler for those who are especially hotheads who want to test their strength.
  13. user3970
    user3970 25 March 2016 09: 26
    +5
    No, but it is surprising, what a fabulous dolb..b our Vovan! He took and "forgiven" Cuba its economic debt to Russia of $ 30 billion! You can consider me a bastard, but Fidel and Raul are not eternal, and then who and what? And debt is debt. This is a method of political and economic pressure and influence. After all, our clown paid off the monetary debt of France for the Chinese Eastern Railway after 100 years, although the road is not ours and the government has changed several times. But duty is sacred. Let's wait for the ghoul to return the Kemsky volost to Germany
    1. gladcu2
      gladcu2 26 March 2016 17: 30
      0
      user

      Cuba has a good education system. This system forms a single moral understanding. Will Cuba be given to the Americans to tear or not. Depends only on the leadership of Cuba.

      The fact that Rossmya forgave the Cubans a debt is normal. Since Kaba vseravno has no resources to return this debt. Not sugar and cigarettes. Could have been resorts. But the main cost of Cuban resorts in the cost of the carrier, flights.

      And that debt stretches back to the time of the USSR. When the USSR, on loan, helped Cuba develop the beginnings of industry.
  14. Million
    Million 25 March 2016 09: 43
    0
    And our missiles in Cuba would be very useful for nuclear equilibrium
    1. gray smeet
      gray smeet 25 March 2016 11: 37
      0
      Quote: Million
      And our missiles in Cuba would be very useful for nuclear equilibrium


      It's just out of the realm of fiction! The Cubans will send us with our missiles much longer. do not be offended, but it is a fact.
    2. Kenneth
      Kenneth 25 March 2016 12: 01
      0
      Fuck you need ground-based missiles in Cuba in the 21st century. To pay Cuba loot? Submarines close this topic.
  15. Professor
    Professor 25 March 2016 09: 56
    -4
    President Obama Visits Cuba This Week

    We were fortunate enough to witness a historical event, the return of Cuba to America.

    Indeed, in Cuba, excellent medicine, as far as I read in the media.

    No, not beautiful. Technology is hopelessly behind, the population is decreasing (-0.15%), infant mortality is high (4.63 / 1,000) and so on.

    Yes, and a wonderful base is at hand near the states, here is a cooler for those who are especially hotheads who want to test their strength.

    Forget it. The train left.

    1. gray smeet
      gray smeet 25 March 2016 11: 20
      0
      The fact that Cuba will return under the American sphere of influence is a matter of time ... in my opinion. I think Castro also understands this - otherwise, they would not have met Obama. Cubans are waiting for change - and Castro also understands this - and America with its money over time ... quietly ...

      And the Americans will turn such a beautiful corner of the planet into yet another Hawaii ...
      1. iouris
        iouris 25 March 2016 11: 32
        -1
        Right now (see photo 1). According to opinion polls, Cubans are in first place on the "happiness index". You, apparently, no longer understand why.
        1. gray smeet
          gray smeet 25 March 2016 11: 48
          0
          Quote: iouris
          Right now (see photo 1). According to opinion polls, Cubans are in first place on the "happiness index". You, apparently, no longer understand why.


          The sun and the ocean - whom you want to make happy! Havana - beauties!
      2. Professor
        Professor 25 March 2016 11: 41
        0
        Quote: gray smeet
        And the Americans will turn such a beautiful corner of the planet into yet another Hawaii ...

        Why is Hawaii bad?
        1. gray smeet
          gray smeet 25 March 2016 12: 00
          -2
          So after all, I say what Hawaii II will do! Cuban only laughing
          1. gray smeet
            gray smeet 25 March 2016 12: 04
            +1
            Cuba, Native American village of Guam, Matanzas province.
            1. gray smeet
              gray smeet 25 March 2016 12: 12
              +2
              Sunset over Havana:
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              2. gray smeet
                gray smeet 25 March 2016 12: 40
                -1
                There are amazing photos, but the size is very large do not fit
        2. hard rock
          hard rock 25 March 2016 13: 00
          +4
          Quote: Professor
          Why is Hawaii bad?

          Long away. Expensive. And with "sexual entertainment" everything is not easy.
          1. Professor
            Professor 25 March 2016 13: 37
            +1
            Quote: hardrock
            Long away. Expensive. And with "sexual entertainment" everything is not easy.

            Cuba is far away. Cheap. And with "sexual entertainment" everything is simple.
            1. hard rock
              hard rock 25 March 2016 13: 49
              +3
              Quote: Professor
              Cuba is far away.

              From USA close.
          2. gray smeet
            gray smeet 25 March 2016 14: 12
            +4
            Quote: hardrock
            Quote: Professor
            Why is Hawaii bad?

            Long away. Expensive. And with "sexual entertainment" it's complicated.


            Cuba is also more diverse laughing :

            Triganya - almost white skin, but not like ours, slightly tanned. The hair is soft and beautiful, often like our natural blondes.

            Mulatto - skin color from light to hissingly tanned. The most popular type of Cuba, because there are 3-4 million of them. Hair from soft to wire, which is considered sludge. Often curlers are pretty.

            Indio - black - blue. Strong hair.

            China - descendants of the Chinese, lost their native language. Sometimes interfere with others. But the eyes are even on a tannedly tanned one. Native. In Chinatown I met amazingly beautiful, with blond hair

            Morena is coarse hair and looks like our Caucasian girls. The skin is white, but the options in Cuba are great.

            Negro, negrita is black, but the skin color varies from anthracite to lighter, but this is not noticed immediately. The hair is mostly stiff, but there are also meow, which is rare. Negrites also come in varying degrees of tanning, there are definitely a dozen. A mulatto and hundreds of options.

            Rubia is a white, soft blonde. In nature is rare.

            Habao - the skin is yellow, do not worry, it does not hurt. Hair is wire, character is squabby. They wear a lot of gold.

            Impurities are black.
            1/4 - quarter block.
            1/2 - mulatre
            1/8 - Mustif
            3/4 - neck
            7/8 - Marabou
            1/16 - Mustafino
            1. Chisayna
              Chisayna 25 March 2016 15: 08
              0
              Yeah, anxious Jews.
            2. gladcu2
              gladcu2 26 March 2016 17: 40
              0
              gray smith

              You have written an excellent classification.

              Maybe write an article. You have a very interesting outlook on life.
      3. gladcu2
        gladcu2 26 March 2016 16: 56
        +1
        gray smith

        Back to the story.

        Cuba began its revolution separately from influencing events without the help of the USSR.
        The USSR did not have an ideological influence on the Cuban revolution.

        The ideologists of the Cuban revolution were carried away by the ideas of Marx, Lenin and Stalin.

        Let me remind you, if Marx and Lenin were theorists, then Stalin is the toughest practitioner. Which led the theory to practical application.

        When Stalin left, the Khrushchev cult of personality was a real shock for sovereign countries. And Cuba became suspicious of Khrushchev's socialism.

        I need it.

        And the fact that Cuban independence is their own path of development without a foreign ideology.

        Therefore, Cuba is not a victim of these circumstances, but an absolutely sovereign independent state that itself has adopted its own path of development.

        You can cheat anyone. Hope the Cubans are so easy not to cheat.

        Why the Americans break off
        1. PHANTOM-AS
          PHANTOM-AS 26 March 2016 17: 56
          +1
          Quote: gladcu2
          Therefore, Cuba is not a victim of these circumstances, but an absolutely sovereign independent state that itself has adopted its own path of development.

          Cuba is one of the leaders of the Non-Aligned Movement
  16. iouris
    iouris 25 March 2016 11: 25
    +4
    The very first photo should be placed opposite the State Duma.
  17. Romanenko
    Romanenko 25 March 2016 14: 41
    +2
    Well done Raul! Keep it up! I think Fidel would do the same ...
    Here's our ours to learn from him.
    1. gladcu2
      gladcu2 26 March 2016 17: 57
      +1
      Romanenko

      GDP, Raoul does not need to learn. He can teach whom he wants. He has very little time.

      GDP makes everything clear. And he will correct the economy. He would have long given the Russian Federation a round of development. But the external and the internal connected with the external interfere.

      Therefore, he took up politics in order to establish friendly external conditions. You understand, without the manifestation of force, Russia would not have received friends.

      And he patched the economy with temporary patches. Type of organization of distribution of children's capital. To raise the birth rate.
  18. Warrior2015
    Warrior2015 26 March 2016 01: 24
    0
    Quote: Tatar 174
    I wish the Cubans Chinese wisdom!

    They will not have it! will not be ! they have a dream - finally the time is nearing when it will be possible to again become the Island of Brothel!

    Quote: fennekRUS
    Maybe it's better to strain and regain lost ground? The Cubans, unlike other “Latino” horses, did not change their horses on the crossing.

    Pull yourself up? who is this? Is it not by chance for Russia, investing money in THREE FRONTS, and is it not for its poor people?

    Quote: Ros 56
    Indeed, in Cuba, excellent medicine, as far as I read in the media.

    Comrade answered you that it’s not at all beautiful. I also clearly state that it is extremely backward and extremely incompetent, looking good only in the background of Haiti or Venezuela.

    Quote: gray smeet
    Havana - beauties!

    But where did you find her there? The mud and ruins are continuous ... Islands off the coast - or dedicated resort areas - are nice, but expensive. But very nice! drinks
    1. Cat man null
      Cat man null 26 March 2016 01: 32
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      Quote: Warrior2015
      they have a dream - finally the time is nearing when it will be possible to again become the Island of Bordelles

      When I studied, Cubans also studied with us. Amertsev they hated .. well, just at the genetic level.

      The guys who studied with me are now fifty dollars. I don’t know how young people are, but they, IMHO, don’t even dream about turning Liberty Island into Bordello Island.
    2. gladcu2
      gladcu2 26 March 2016 17: 20
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      Warrior

      You would look at the light of capitalism Detroit. That's where the ruins are. Destroyed material resource.

      But Cuba did not destroy itself. Cuba used affordable, saved but could not increase. Nowhere to get it.

      Where did you see the dirt in Cuba. Poor but clean. Although, of course, garbage can also be. People are like people.
  19. Warrior2015
    Warrior2015 26 March 2016 14: 22
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    Quote: Cat Man Null
    The guys who studied with me are now fifty dollars. I don’t know how young people are, but they, IMHO, don’t even dream about turning Liberty Island into Bordello Island.

    Well, when I was on this strange island, of course, I talked mainly with the younger generation - and yes, both young people and the middle age are definitely in favor of liberalization and an alliance with the United States. But for now, they will say this only in a personal conversation after a few glasses of "Cuba Libre", and will publicly confess their love for the Castro brothers and go to the demonstrations. drinks In general, Cuba now is the USSR of the end of the 1980x-beginning of the 90x.

    PSWell, why should they love Castro? Here is one person, so he stood in line for the purchase of a refrigerator 20 years !!!! You see, 20 years, JUST TO BUY A REFRIGERATOR, not a house or a car !!!!
  20. gladcu2
    gladcu2 26 March 2016 17: 49
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    Warrior.

    Poverty in Cuba due to lack of material resources.

    Cuba defended its independence and the price for this independence is such poverty.

    Cuba was able to maintain sovereignty only thanks to a communist ideology and socialist social order.

    God forbid Cuba capitalism. That Cuba in a year will lose its nationality, its people, its identity.

    Cuba will receive a development phase with the advent of American tourism. Until recently, Americans were forbidden to appear in Cuba due to an economic blockade. Cubans banned them.

    Canadians, Germans. Russians. But the Americans were not allowed.
    1. hardroc
      hardroc 27 March 2016 10: 01
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      Quote: gladcu2
      God forbid Cuba capitalism.

      I "like" this Canadian person. Sits to himself with prosperity and satiety, suffers from this greatly, so he categorically does not advise others.
      Cuba is near. Feet in hand, and to Cuba. And all the suffering with capitalism will end. At least for a while. Citizenship "crazy Canadian" will be given instantly. They will also show it on TV for some time.
      However, no. Everything is limited to "no advice" in the internet.
  21. Warrior2015
    Warrior2015 26 March 2016 20: 21
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    Quote: gladcu2
    God forbid Cuba capitalism. That Cuba in a year will lose its nationality, its people, its identity.

    And you will not believe, they have "nothing to lose except their chains" there. THERE IS NOTHING.

    They don’t have their own great national culture, they don’t have technological achievements, and certainly they are not the bearers of the SPECIAL civilization (such as Russians, Chinese, etc.), Cubans are one of many related peoples of Mesoamerica, no more.

    Quote: gladcu2
    Poverty in Cuba due to lack of material resources.
    I will say it easier. Not because of resource poverty, but because of the inferiority of the communist economic system.

    Google the word Dominican Republic. This is so in general a purely capitalist country, approximately equivalent to Cuba in terms of area, population, and is located just across the strait. So, the people there live absolutely normal! Yes, the poor are everywhere, but in Cuba, the people are TOTALLY poor.

    By the way, it is in the Dominican Republic, for example, that a large community of Cubans who fled from the Castro regime lives; for example, there are alternative production of rum and cigars. And nothing live!

    Before me, Cuba very much reminded North Korea, just like twin brothers, total poverty, with absolute permissiveness and fattening of the top.

    Again - there was the problem of persecution of faith and religion. But it came to what? it got to the point that the old heretic and atheist Fidel with his brother Raul RETURNED BACK TO HIS ROOTS and became good Catholics! hi

    Quote: gladcu2
    Until recently, Americans were forbidden to appear in Cuba due to an economic blockade. Cubans banned them.

    Well, you are wrong. For 20 years, American tourists had the right to visit the "Freedom Island", though without the right to use American credit cards and travel checks, only cash. laughing
  22. Old warrior
    Old warrior 27 March 2016 22: 27
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    "The song flies over the planet Earth - Cuba, my love" (c)