The Vietnamese military returned Soviet ACS-85 to service

The Vietnamese People’s Army (VNA) has returned to service a part of the Soviet 85-mm airborne self-propelled ACS-85 self-propelled guns, the blog reports bmpd with reference to the resource baodatviet.vn.

“The party ASU-85 was supplied by the armed forces of the USSR Armed Forces as part of the massive Soviet military aid during the 1979 war of the Chinese-Vietnamese war. For quite a long time, the ASU-85 in Vietnam were in storage, but now the VNA has returned some of these facilities to service, considering them useful for operations in difficult terrain, ”the resource writes.

In May, 2015-th were the first firing of the recovered self-propelled guns. During the repair work, the machines were equipped with DShK machine guns.

Help bmpd: “ASU-85 (“ Object 573 ”, officially designated as ASU-85) was developed by the Design Bureau of the Mytishchi Engineering Plant on the basis of the light chassis tank PT-76 and was mass-produced by this enterprise from 1959 to 1966 to equip the USSR Airborne Forces. These vehicles were equipped with separate self-propelled artillery divisions of the airborne divisions (one division in the division, the staff of the division 31, then 30 units). ”

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[Giant thought]

The ace is also an ace in Africa, and our Soviet-style armaments in poor countries are still in great demand, Soviet means excellent, in ancient Soviet times this was said with some irony, but now it turns out that it was so in reality.

[cap]

Quote: Giant thought

The ace is also an ace in Africa, and our Soviet-style armaments in poor countries are still in great demand, Soviet means excellent, in ancient Soviet times this was said with some irony, but now it turns out that it was so in reality.

"A good owner has a plowed field with a lame gelding."

Hello to the Vietnamese.
Americans remember Vietnam syndrome. McCain still stomps

[Magic archer]

And if you upgrade them? A new SLA, an engine, a gun of a larger caliber and with low returns will result in a cheap but very angry gun!

[wasjasibirjac]

will she be NONA-S then?

[ver_]

..in the jungle you can fight with bows and abalades and other cold weapons - not a desert, where everything is visible to the horizon .., there the aggressor himself will not pass ..

[weksha50]

Quote: Magic Archer

And if you upgrade them?New SLA, engine, larger caliber gun and low recoil and get cheap but a very angry gun!

Yeah ... It's easier to give birth to something new - it will cost less ...

[Lopatov]

Quote: Magic Archer

a cannon of a larger caliber and with low recoil will turn out to be a cheap but very angry gun!

[wasjasibirjac]

if not mistaken - in the back of the M-30? it would be better to attach the D-30. easier and shelling can be arranged in a circle. true on the sides only reduced charges.

[Bronik]

I am glad? Well I do not know..

[PKK]

The Vietnamese are satisfied and I am satisfied. Already the Vietnamese will be able to cashmere this installation of their enemy, I have no doubt about them.

[Lieutenant Izhe]

The Vietnamese are satisfied and I am satisfied. Already the Vietnamese will be able to cashmere this installation of their enemy, I have no doubt about them.

this is an allusion to the "Chinese goods" on "thick TERRITORIAL circumstances" ...
and cars - SWEETS, after 35 years of HH!
PS Glory to the Russian gunsmiths!
P.P.S I DIDN'T EXPECT that .. "Chinese Tovaliss" would read my comment SO FAST!

[Taygerus]

and why not, it is necessary to use it, especially self-propelled guns turned out successful at the time, and even for an hour it’s still relevant to crawl through the jungle, well done they use all available resources at hand

[barclay]

I remember them well. I also found them in 1985 in the Pskov Airborne Department. They were then called "crocodiles. They were in service in a separate anti-tank battalion.

[igordok]

Now in 76SDShD stand as monuments. One at the tankodrome, the second near the railway crossing.

At least two articles on ACS-85
http://topwar.ru/25082-aviadesantnaya-samohodka-asu-85.html
http://topwar.ru/35515-otechestvennye-protivotankovye-samohodnye-artilleriyskie-

ustanovki-chast-2-ya.html

[RUSS]

Do Vietnamese have interesting cork helmets so far or only in shape?

[Shadowcat]

Like living near Vietnam - they love beanies with brim. There is a reason - on the street the sun and with a long sock (and not running between the shadows) muzzle burns for one or two. Fields just save more or less

[RUSS]

Quote: ShadowCat

Like living near Vietnam - they love beanies with brim.

This is clear, just how does the cork protect against fragments without speaking about the pool? Or do they have helmets only in shape as before from cork, and now from different material?

[Uncle VasyaSayapin]

Fiberglass helmet. As we used to have motor boats. Pimples on top metal (1 mm).

[RUSS]

Quote: Uncle VasyaSayapin

Fiberglass helmet. As we used to have motor boats. Pimples on top metal (1 mm).

Thanks Uncle Vasya.

[Spartanez300]

Good equipment is always in demand, to see conservation they have good self-propelled guns as they came off the assembly line.

[Maksus]

Vietnam is not doing well if such rarities are returned to service. Yet 85-mm is not enough in modern times. And the armor is rather weak.

[akims]

For defense, an indispensable thing. But who are they going to fight with?

[Alexey RA]

Quote: akims

For defense, an indispensable thing. But who are they going to fight with?

С northern neighbor. There was already in 1979 the "First Socialist War".

And now, despite the improvement of relations with China, Vietnam is still wary of China. And there is something: the Vietnamese have an excellent example of Myanmar before their eyes, in which China, despite seemingly good relations with the central government, actively supports all kinds of national separatists, including the rebel army of the National Democratic Alliance.

So friendship is friendship, and the Vietnamese prefer to keep the powder on the northern border dry. Resuscitation ASU-85 - this is one of the answers to many Chinese LT, designed just for action in the jungle and rough terrain.

[rotmistr60]

Quote: eugeniy.369

no armor, no tower

An interesting statement of the question. And do not tell me why self-propelled tower? At one time, an excellent self-propelled installation for the Airborne Forces. And since removed from storage, then there is a niche for use.

[Lopatov]

Quote: rotmistr60

And do not tell me why self-propelled tower?

In order not to twist the self-propelled gun body with subsequent re-orientation of the guns.

[rotmistr60]

Are you kidding me?
So then it's a tank. What nonsense to write something. Each "vegetable has its own garden".

[Lopatov]

What the fuck are the jokes?

Changed the sector-oriented guns on a new one. They will shoot with a closed fire, photos clearly indicate this.

[Alex777]

They have few roads.
EMNIP in the first socialist set of defense lines was configured.
Large-caliber machine guns stood there, sectors were shot. And so every 2-3 km.
The ammunition ran out - retired to the next frontier, good not far. )))
IMHO will be prepared closed artillery positions for firing at a very specific point. And that’s all ...))))

[Maksus]

Back in World War II, Americans used self-propelled guns with a rotating tower. That's just the ACS is very outdated. Well, on whom the 85mm gun will now effect? On an APC if only.

[BULB TARAS]

Quote: Spartanez300

Good equipment is always in demand, to see conservation they have good self-propelled guns as they came off the assembly line.

Especially on the way unification with the PT -76 and they fought with them the price of this technique)

[Shadowcat]

Between this and then
http://topwar.ru/25082-aviadesantnaya-samohodka-asu-85.html

And about the gun - not being able to change it, you can think about ammunition.
P.S. According to the Tank M1A2 Abrams is struck by a bullet of 12.7 Esseno caliber not everywhere, but ...

[Lieutenant Izhe]

According to the Tank M1A2 Abrams is struck by a bullet of 12.7 Esseno caliber not everywhere, but ...

And in the open hatch?

[creak]

Quote: Lieutenant Izhe

According to the Tank M1A2 Abrams is struck by a bullet of 12.7 Esseno caliber not everywhere, but ...
And in the open hatch?

And in the open hatch you can manage PM ....

[lis-ik]

Why is there a bullet, there was a poster "Hit with a shovel ..." on the vulnerable spots of "Abrams"

[vanavatny]

and we even have monument tanks on pedestals

[Fearless]

That's what the Soviet Union’s equipment means, how much has come and it’s still like new. Sing and we’ll shave you.

[Nikolay71]

Looks like a new Sino-Vietnamese war is just around the corner, since old equipment is being returned to service.

[nivander]

By the way, the Czechs proved that if you put a power booster on the T-34 and modern shock absorbers, you get quite a so-so tank for the poor (by the way, the Ukrainian army secretly used the T-34 for training purposes, kill God I do not understand why)

[Zaurbek]

Beautiful car, Vietnam will not be engaged in landing, and 85mm by today's standards, only shoot at BMP. 100mm MT-12 construction can not stand, but you can put 100mm low ballistics from BMP-3. And shoot Chinese tanks at cumulative tanks and ATGMs through the barrel. And OF action will be good. To combat the descendants of the T-54-62, it is quite suitable.

[max73]

Quote: max73

Dear, are you special?))) A self-propelled gun with a "basin" for the Marine Corps was compared, mdaaa ... well, at least read the reference books or something .... and do not disgrace yourself ..)))

well, and more ... news from the category of junk) a year has already passed since they were returned to duty ... May 10, 2015 in the 168th artillery brigade of VNA firing from the restored ASU-85 took place

[Yugan Oleg]

From the side of Vietnam, a reasonable decision, with age, the technique does not get better, not wine in the end.

[Ros 56]

It is interesting that they are planning there, again they encountered someone's foreheads. And the machine is good, light and you won't suffocate when shooting. And from the rain and the tarp will come off, all the more frost is not observed there.

[Gunther]

Quote: eugeniy.369

History ... Apparently from the inability to acquire or do something worthwhile, the Vietnamese took such a step. Alas, the SU-85 is outdated, there is no armor, no turret, the gun is weak. We used it for another, it was made for the airborne forces.

It is not necessary to consider the Vietnamese non-prodigal, they put on four bones (lobster) the United States, which excelled them in everything except one.
It is clearly stated ".... counting them useful for operations in difficult terrain. "

[Maksus]

But the Chinese are already testing new TANKS for operations in difficult conditions. And the gun they have is 105 mm with the corresponding armor.

[Ros 56]

And how much does this thing weigh? It’s generally damp in the jungle, you can get bogged down, I don’t remember using heavy equipment in any film about the Vietnam War.

[Maksus]

But this is a light tank, probably?

[31rus2]

Dear, the Vietnamese were armed and trained by instructors from the USSR, there was tremendous help, so think what to write

[31rus2]

It is interesting against whom and for what this rarity was pulled out, a place only on a pedestal, if you need equipment, you would use the chassis for the same 2 * 23,4 * 23 zsu, or helicopter nurs blocks, there’s more benefit, by the way there was an article that the Ministry of Defense utilizes old equipment, so they would give it on condition of pickup

[pofigist_26_eng]

Quote: Maksus

Back in World War II, Americans used self-propelled guns with a rotating tower. That's just the ACS is very outdated. Well, on whom the 85mm gun will now effect? On an APC if only.

This machine can easily fight even with modern tanks, on-board projection, from a distance of 1-1,5 km, because Since most tanks are designed to be affected by cumulative ammunition, armor-piercing shells will not have any special problems with this. And given the history of the use of armored vehicles in the Vietnam War (1964-1975), it can be assumed that these vehicles will be used precisely from ambushes, especially when destroying supply columns and supporting infantry in difficult terrain for heavier armored vehicles. I also want to note that the effectiveness of armored vehicles, especially for modern models, directly depends on their tactical use, rather than on their filling.

[Maksus]

What are you talking about? Tanks are designed for all types of ammunition, they have armor, screens, DZ, KAZ.
And about ambushes - it's easier to mine roads. Tea, not World War II in the yard. Nobody will now go on the attack without reconnaissance - and the thermal imagers will look for any ambush, after it the artillery and aircraft will work, only then the soldiers will go. You will return the bows to the armament - silently and arrows poisoned

[evgmiz]

I think they would be useful in the DPR ...