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Northern cantons of Syrian Kurds may declare federalization

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Syrian Kurds living in the lands controlled by them in the north of the country can announce the creation of a federation, reports RIA News Reuters report.


Northern cantons of Syrian Kurds may declare federalization
Kurdish militia

Earlier it was reported that the High Committee on the negotiations of the Syrian opposition rejects the idea of ​​federalizing the country.

“The decision on federalization was a kind of response to the fact that the Kurds were not invited to Geneva to participate in the inter-Syrian negotiations,” said Rodi Osman, a representative of the Syrian Kurdistan in Moscow.

The information was also confirmed by the representative of the Kurdish Democratic Union Party, Salam Ali. "Three Kurdish cantons intend to proclaim the creation of a federation," he said, noting that "there is no question of disconnecting from Syria."

However, not all Kurds agree with this decision. “Independent Kurdish parties are outraged by the decision of several other Kurdish parties to declare federalization in Syria,” said the leader of the Youth Party Baruin Ibrahim.

According to her, at present, "representatives of several Kurdish parties are meeting in the city of Ramilan in the province of Al-Hasek, after which it is planned to announce the introduction of a federal structure in the territories."
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AFP 2016 / Yasin Akgul
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  1. maxim1987
    maxim1987 16 March 2016 16: 08
    -3
    and these start to fallout
    1. Belarus
      Belarus 16 March 2016 16: 28
      +21
      You are wrong. Kurds are the only ones in the world who do not have their own territory and Kurds differ from those horses on the Maidan at times.
      1. FenH
        FenH 16 March 2016 16: 31
        +6
        so the Kurds didn’t want their statehood, this message came from America, the three republics immediately got bitters rich in oil, the current is one trouble, the Kurdish Kurds are at odds, they are still biting each other
        1. Leviton
          Leviton 16 March 2016 16: 43
          +2
          Quote: FenH
          so the Kurds didn’t want their statehood, this message came from America, the three republics immediately got bitters rich in oil, the current is one trouble, the Kurdish Kurds are at odds, they are still biting each other

          Any federalization is a weakening of central authority and the possibility of lesser efforts to achieve what the Americans and Turks, as well as the Saudis, plan to divide and conquer. And the normal (not paid) Kurds, I don’t think they are behind this idea (they are smarter than the representatives of the 404 country) in order to remain lesser forces against the Turks prepared for them.
          1. Tatyana
            Tatyana 16 March 2016 17: 44
            +5
            First of all. This “separatism” of some parties of the northern Kurds is clearly unequivocally manipulatively provocatively fueled by the Turkish services at the request of Erdogan to create a pro-Turkish corridor in the north of the SAR to continue to export stolen oil from Syria and Iraq to Turkey, which Erdogan stuttered more than once.
            As a matter of fact, this separatist idea of ​​the Kurdish “federation” is not, of course, even Kurdish in itself, but is a provocative manipulative stuffing-promise for the short-sighted part of the party “top” of the part of the Kurds from Turks, Amers and Sauds.
            Second. You don’t have to be seven foreheads to understand that the struggle for a Kurdish federation in this region of the SAR: 1) will look like a betrayal of the common cause of the Syrians and Kurds for their liberation from the Turks and their minions - militants of terrorist groups; 2) weaken the Kurds themselves in an internecine civil war, which 3) will end with the annexation of the northern territories of the SAR in favor of Turkey - while the indignant Kurds, the Turks will simply “clean up” the genocide in this territory again and drive Kurdish refugees back to the SAR. Here, the Kurdish Federation of SAR will be lost by the Kurds to the Turks and the pro-Turkish Islamist militants.
            And what do you call all this ?! Only the stupidity and betrayal of the party Kurdish leaders to their people and the peoples of the SAR.
            1. demo
              demo 16 March 2016 17: 56
              +1
              Your arguments are crossed out by one, but a crucial idea - the idea of ​​one’s own, I emphasize, OWN state, where the opinion of the Kurd will be taken into account, and not only, and not so much, of the Syrian, Turk, Iraqi or Iranian.
              I clearly stated?

              Everything else is water in the sand.
              The arguments of the mind will not help here.
            2. Asadullah
              Asadullah 16 March 2016 18: 20
              +2
              And what do you call all this ?! Only the stupidity and betrayal of the party Kurdish leaders to their people and the peoples of the SAR.


              I apologize for being rude, but you present a problem in your own world, where Tanya and her thoughts live. What are the peoples of the SAR? By and large there, most of the population hates Assad, another part is wound up by Saudi propaganda, the third part, the most intelligent, will try to keep silent. The Turks insisted on the absence of Kurds in the negotiation process, and these statements are just a retaliation against the Turks. Moreover, the Kurds are not homogeneous and split according to the geography of residence. For Assad, the issue of federalization is unpleasant, but it is the active phase of the confrontation between the Kurds and the Turks that helps Assad to maintain power. From that he will be silent, using the situation as a trump card in the game. For the possible autonomy of the Kurds, this is the worst thing that Turkey could get from the conflict, which itself organized.
              1. Tatyana
                Tatyana 16 March 2016 18: 52
                +1
                Dear Asadullah! I can not agree with you. You reason is not entirely logical.
                If everything is as you say,
                Asadullah
                most of the population hates Assad, another part is wound up by Saudi propaganda, the third part, the most intelligent, will try to keep silent

                what then - in the SAR - are our Russian aerospace forces doing? It turns out that their help to the Secular regime of Assad in the SAR is like a “dead poultice” ?!
                Who was wrong then in this case - you, Asadullah, or the leadership of Russia?
                1. FenH
                  FenH 16 March 2016 19: 13
                  +2
                  Quote: Tatiana
                  Dear Asadullah! I can not agree with you. You reason is not entirely logical.
                  If everything is as you say,
                  Asadullah
                  most of the population hates Assad, another part is wound up by Saudi propaganda, the third part, the most intelligent, will try to keep silent

                  what then - in the SAR - are our Russian aerospace forces doing? It turns out that their help to the Secular regime of Assad in the SAR is like a “dead poultice” ?!
                  Who was wrong then in this case - you, Asadullah, or the leadership of Russia?

                  In principle, the way it is, as the commander of Asadul described, and Russia defends its interests there in the Alavite enclave
                2. Asadullah
                  Asadullah 16 March 2016 19: 38
                  +2
                  Who was wrong then in this case


                  The one who became weaker as a result of his mistake is mistaken. The rest is a matter of dialectics. Do you think Assad has become weaker as a result of the Russian operation? Has Russia become weaker? They probably heard about the East that it is subtle in perception, but there is one indisputable eastern truth, an oasis arises near water, and the state has a strong leader. This is the essence of what is happening.
                3. Altona
                  Altona 16 March 2016 20: 02
                  +1
                  Quote: Tatiana
                  what then - in the SAR - are our Russian aerospace forces doing? It turns out that their help to the Secular regime of Assad in the SAR is like a “dead poultice” ?!
                  Who was wrong then in this case - you, Asadullah, or the leadership of Russia?

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                  Why "poultice"? They destroyed ISIS's oil logistics and preserved the skeleton of the Syrian state. But we defiantly pulled back from further processes and left. But we will most likely leave Latakia under our control. Now this Syrian political compote will be brewed in Geneva.
          2. Asadullah
            Asadullah 16 March 2016 18: 10
            +2
            Any federalization is a weakening of central authority and the possibility of lesser efforts to achieve what the Americans and Turks, as well as the Saudis, plan to divide and conquer.


            laughing tell the Turks how happy they are for the federalization of the Kurds. Syrian and Iraqi Kurdistan are essentially federal, with their own government. Just without money, which successfully replace all the money of the surrounding countries. And what are the plans of the Americans? For example, the Saudis are planning to build a theocratic Arab state, that is, the idea of ​​the Caliphate comes from there. The Turks, as with an ass grated mustard, rush with the idea of ​​the Great Turan, which in the future will become a conflict with the Arabs. But what about the Americans? Bless it Hamo?

            The federalization of the Kurds, imaginary or promising, is a blow to the Turks on Faberge. What will Assad say in this case? In theory, keep silent.
            1. FenH
              FenH 16 March 2016 18: 15
              +1
              Dear Asadullah, I think Assad does not really want this. But I think Russia will put pressure on him, as we need federalization in Ukraine.
              1. Asadullah
                Asadullah 16 March 2016 19: 45
                +2
                Dear Asadullah, I think Assad does not really want this. But I think Russia will put pressure on him, as we need federalization in Ukraine.


                Most likely, the actions of the Kurds were agreed with the Syrian government. Not through diplomatic channels. Assad has no way to support the Kurds, in this case more than a possible war with Turkey, or to resist the political trends in Kurdistan. He must maintain a pause, and conduct direct negotiations, after consolidating his status quo. It is unwise to make adjustments where he has neither physical nor political capabilities.
              2. Altona
                Altona 16 March 2016 20: 04
                +1
                Quote: FenH
                important Asadullah, I think Assad does not really want it.

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                Does Assad have a choice? If there is, then a small one, in a narrow corridor of decisions.
            2. hrych
              hrych 16 March 2016 18: 17
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      2. Yeraz
        Yeraz 16 March 2016 17: 14
        +3
        Quote: Belarus
        You are wrong. Kurds are the only ones in the world who do not have their own territory.

        belay belay belay
        Have you ever known the nations of the world ???? made the Kurds the only ones)))))
        1. demo
          demo 16 March 2016 17: 57
          +2
          By the way, the Indians of North America, i.e. The USA and Canada also do not have their own territory.
          Reservations do not count.
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    2. 79807420129
      79807420129 16 March 2016 16: 32
      +12
      At Pedrogan, the fart exploded, Turkish Kurds clearly follow the Syrian ones, as if the pedrogasha did not follow Petruha Poroshenko’s example, did not go into a bout.
      1. Leviton
        Leviton 16 March 2016 16: 47
        0
        Quote: 79807420129
        At Pedrogan, the fart exploded, Turkish Kurds clearly follow the Syrian ones, as if the pedrogasha did not follow Petruha Poroshenko’s example, did not go into a bout.

        And the war will no longer be with its people but with the separatists ... It will only be easier for farther, who will allow them to establish federalization on Turkish lands ... This is so far he is fighting his people against the disapproval of geyrops (well, so what he does not like Erdogan). but for the integrity of Turkey, Europe will forgive him a lot and even help ....
      2. demo
        demo 16 March 2016 17: 58
        0
        He is not allowed. The Quran does not welcome drunks.
    3. PKK
      PKK 16 March 2016 16: 44
      0
      Even if they didn’t show off, for starters, federalization, the sweat that no one understands full autonomy, Turkey will crush on a command from the United States.
  2. newcomer
    newcomer 16 March 2016 16: 09
    +6
    maybe it is for the benefit of syria. but it’s too early, the enemy has not yet been beaten, the territory has not been liberated, and they are already divided. oh how it looks like Kurds.
    1. Blondy
      Blondy 16 March 2016 16: 33
      +1
      Quote: newbie
      maybe it is for the benefit of syria. but it’s too early, the enemy has not yet been beaten, the territory has not been liberated, and they are already divided. oh how does it look like Kurds

      Guys, read carefully
      Syrian Kurds living in their controlled lands in the north of the country, can announce the creation of a federation, transmits RIA News Reuters report.
      . Well, how did it become clearer? Very similar to the picked up informational stuffing. You might think that the Kurds are reporting on their plans to Reuters.
      1. FenH
        FenH 16 March 2016 16: 36
        0
        yes no, it is the Kurds themselves who write: http: //riataza.com/russian/top_today/6342-kantony-zapadnogo-kurdistana-budut-pr
        eobrazovany-v-federalnyy-region.html
    2. Bulrumeb
      Bulrumeb 16 March 2016 16: 36
      0
      Northern cantons of Syrian Kurds may declare federalization

      so you look at them and the south of Turkey will be pulled
    3. demo
      demo 16 March 2016 18: 00
      0
      They reason, in general, true - you can take it when it is bad.
      And when the owner is big-eyed and rugged, then try to take it away.
  3. asadov
    asadov 16 March 2016 16: 10
    +5
    And how, after this news and rumors, Erdogan cringed .... If this happens, then the Turkish Kurds will rise.
    1. Revolver
      Revolver 16 March 2016 18: 20
      0
      Give independent Kurdistan from Armenia to the Mediterranean Sea! And in order to balance the cutback of Turkey in the southeast, to cut back also in the west. Constantinople is already tired under the Turkish occupation, it is necessary to return it to the original owners - the Greeks.

      Hillary for prison 2016 !!!
  4. Alexander 3
    Alexander 3 16 March 2016 16: 14
    +4
    A start has been made in creating an independent state. And Russia has taken part in this. The process cannot be stopped.
  5. FenH
    FenH 16 March 2016 16: 20
    0
    Here is more detailed what they want and the map: http://riataza.com/russian/top_today/6342-kantony-zapadnogo-kurdistana-budut-pre
    obrazovany-v-federalnyy-region.html
    1. Belarus
      Belarus 16 March 2016 16: 31
      0
      Well, I looked and I liked the fact that this is essentially a blow between the legs of Turkey and a very strong blow with bad consequences for Turkey. I would say that perhaps the Russian Federation came to Turkey through the back door in revenge for the Turkish provocations.
      1. oxana_iv
        oxana_iv 16 March 2016 21: 46
        0
        Quote: Belarus
        Well, I looked and I liked the fact that this is essentially a blow between the legs of Turkey and a very strong blow with bad consequences for Turkey. I would say that perhaps the Russian Federation came to Turkey through the back door in revenge for the Turkish provocations.



        It looks very much like that))) And, perhaps, the approach was made with the aim that the Turkish Kurds would want to enter the Syrian Federal Region of Kurdistan, taking with them their territories.
    2. cap
      cap 16 March 2016 17: 01
      +1
      Quote: FenH
      Here is more detailed what they want and the map: http://riataza.com/russian/top_today/6342-kantony-zapadnogo-kurdistana-budut-pre

      obrazovany-v-federalnyy-region.html


      I read thanks. Success to the Kurds.
      1. FenH
        FenH 16 March 2016 17: 06
        0
        You're welcome hi
  6. plotnikov561956
    plotnikov561956 16 March 2016 16: 30
    +3
    Kurdish tribes .. it’s like a company of drunk Russian peasants ... they’ll get over how to give drinks .. so it was, is and will be. History of this witness
  7. drilled
    drilled 16 March 2016 16: 31
    +2
    Also, damn it, good allies. You will announce this in Iraq. And in Turkey. Let's see what happens.
  8. Ros 56
    Ros 56 16 March 2016 16: 41
    -1
    And it is imperative to help create a large Kurdistan.
  9. newcomer
    newcomer 16 March 2016 16: 42
    +2
    blondy, because recently there was info, the Kurds urinate each other in Syria. and stuffing or not, it will be clear later. it's just that it’s somehow in their Kurdish style. so maybe the truth.
  10. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 16 March 2016 16: 44
    +3
    The Kurds do not have unity and consent. Hence, there will be no federalization. The contradictions are too deep.
  11. a.hamster55
    a.hamster55 16 March 2016 16: 54
    0
    The rabbit is not only valuable fur, but also 2-3 kg. diet meat!
  12. RuslanNN
    RuslanNN 16 March 2016 17: 00
    0
    Quote: Ros 56
    And it is imperative to help create a large Kurdistan.

    And how Iran will react to this is interesting. There are also many Kurds and they have already created their own Republic.
    1. FenH
      FenH 16 March 2016 17: 08
      0
      So the Americans need to create a hotbed of tension in Syria, Iraq, Iran hi
    2. Ros 56
      Ros 56 17 March 2016 08: 04
      0
      Quote: RuslanNN
      There are also many Kurds and they have already created their own Republic.


      I’m not saying that we will create, I’m about giving the Kurds the opportunity to agree on their own. And how is this their business, probably all of them together are better off having their own state.
  13. Tu-214R
    Tu-214R 16 March 2016 17: 01
    0
    Here's another:
    https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%BD%D1%84%D0%BB%D0%B8%D0%BA%
    D1%82-%D0%B2-%D0%BA%D0%B0%D0%BC%D1%8B%D1%88%D0%BB%D1%8B-%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%B3
    %D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%B5%D1%82%D1%81%D1%8F-%D0%BA%D1%83%D1%80%D0%B4%D1%8B/
    (admins expand the functionality of tags to add links in the normal form, but not in this)
    Erdogan from this federal / independent Kurdistan will make the buffer zone he has long dreamed of. Are they able to defend their territory from the Turks themselves, or how do Ukrainians hope for the help of the Americans? And what if they even quarrel with the Syrians? So Erdogan doesn't "tear" anything there.
  14. Shuttle
    Shuttle 16 March 2016 17: 04
    +1
    Quote: Belarus
    You are wrong. Kurds are the only ones in the world who do not have their own territory and Kurds differ from those horses on the Maidan at times.

    Totally agree!
    In addition, the Syrian Kurds, having received autonomy within the framework of the future Syrian Arab federal republic, will formally remain Syrian citizens, whom, if something happens, Russia will protect against any external aggression under a military cooperation agreement. And besides, they will become a fuse and a catalyst for the formation of a similar autonomy for Turkish Kurds. With Erdogan or without Erdogan, this will have to be decided by Mr. Erdogan himself. He wants peace and prosperity - he will give the Kurds oxygen. He doesn’t want to - the Syrian Kurds will succumb to the heat and support their fellow tribesmen to all that they find in their desert. And there in the sand there is a lot to find. And oil (read - whatever you want), and ammunition, and all kinds of RPGs, and guns with shells, and other support.
    And then the Kurds will go back from Europe to build their Kurdistan. Will definitely go. Of course, modern Kurds are not Jews in Palestine. But with the joint support of the States and Russia, they can make a country for themselves. Unlike the Israelis, no one needs to take away a place.
    Give Kurdish autonomy in Syria!
  15. Warrior Hamilton
    Warrior Hamilton 16 March 2016 20: 29
    0
    Autonomy - Determination of living space - Ethnic cleansing - Helping "oppressed brothers" in neighboring countries - Ancestral struggle for spheres of influence, smuggling and control of roads, oil wells - Give a weapon - Give money. (You have an optimist forecast, I have a pissimist)
    Quote: Shuttle
    Will definitely go. Of course, modern Kurds are not Jews in Palestine. But with the joint support of the States and Russia, they can make a country for themselves. Unlike the Israelis, no one needs to take away a place.

    Jews received good financial investments and, unlike the Kurds, for two hundred years with cartoons they didn’t run around the mountains and forgot how to work, they knew how to create something material with their hands and head. If the Kurds know how to create, then Allah help them! They have no money for the construction of the state. Something must be sold to someone. We must remember that there is a war for oil and how time will be used and on whose side the Kurds will play. Name at least one country America has spent money on creating. Where America spends, there is either Kosovo or Ukraine. The thorny path of the Kurds.
  16. atamankko
    atamankko 16 March 2016 21: 18
    0
    Kurds are smart people and good warriors, let luck not leave them.