Ulyukaev - “for”, Nabiullina - “against”

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On the night of 10 on 11 March, a meeting on economic issues was held in the Kremlin. The meeting was attended by President Vladimir Putin, Dmitry Medvedev and heads of departments of the economic bloc. According to some reports, Sergey Glazyev and Alexey Kudrin were also present at the meeting. The sources of the conference are called A. Ulyukaeva. The development of the country's economy and project financing programs were discussed at the night event. However, the economic bloc did not come to an agreement: Nabiullina spoke out against the state investment program proposed by Ulyukaev.

Ulyukaev - “for”, Nabiullina - “against”
Economic Development Minister Alexei Ulyukayev "asks" for funding from Central Bank Chairman Elvira Nabiullina
Alexey Druzhinin / Press Service of the President of the Russian Federation / TASS


For two years, the authorities have been discussing how to “fix” the Russian economy suffering from low prices for mineral raw materials and sanctions from the Russian economy. The themes of import substitution and the development of small and medium-sized businesses do not leave the pages of the central press publications. Let us ask ourselves a simple question: Did someone first of all prevent the Kremlin from supporting its home economy? And if disturbed, then who? It was probably hampered by citizens who preferred to buy Turkish clothes, American processors, Japanese cars and Italian toilet bowls. And cheese, by the way, is also Italian. But citizens did not interfere with the Kremlin to drive crude oil "over the hill". We tend to call this policy, when oil actually changed to cheese and rags, “import-approval”. The notorious small business has been stifled for so many years by taxes and “contributions”, which often arose suddenly, that now there is little left of it.

In terms of the number of small enterprises, the Russian Federation is far behind the developed countries. We have on average 1000 (ten) small enterprises on 10 citizens, and in developed countries of Europe - no less than 35. The role of small business in social production also varies significantly: from 10-11% of GDP in Russia to 50-60% in developed countries of the world (Dadakhanova R. R. The current state of small business in Russia // Young scientist. 2013. No. 5. C 359).

According to Rosstat, on 1 January 2015 of the Year in Russia acts 4,5 million small and medium-sized businesses, which employ more than 18 million people (25% of the total number of employees).

In terms of the number of enterprises, the small and medium-sized enterprises (SMEs) sector showed a positive trend only for the categories of small and micro enterprises, moreover for 2013 and 2014. growth rates of this segment have slowed down significantly. The number of micro and small enterprises over 5 years increased by 28%: from 1644,3 thousand in 2010 year to 2103,8 thousand in 2014 year. The number of microenterprises in 2014 a year increased by almost a third compared to 2010 a year and amounted to 1868,2 thousand. However, the growth of microenterprises in 2014 year compared to 2013 a year amounted to only 40 thousand (2,2%).

It is also necessary to clarify that the growth in the number of small and micro enterprises occurred in the indicated years against the background of a decrease in the number of medium-sized enterprises (according to the results of 2014, 13,7 thousand, as in the 2013 year). True, almost two-fold reduction in the number of medium-sized enterprises in 2013 year compared to 2010 year (there were 25,2 thousand) statistics is explained by refining the list of enterprises taking into account the criteria for classification as SME turnover and capital share.

The average monthly salary of an employee is truly depressing: in 2014, it amounted to 19201 rubles. per month (total for small enterprises). On microenterprises and the one below - 15774 p. in months

The average number of employees per enterprise in 2014 was: 1) small and micro enterprises - 6 people; 2) medium enterprises - 121 people.

The main activities of the so-called small business in Russia are almost entirely trade and intermediary services.

For small enterprises, the lion’s share is taken by wholesale and retail trade, coupled with the repair of motor vehicles, motorcycles, household goods and personal items (38,8%). Real estate operations, provision of services and rentals (20,4%) also have a significant share. Cumulatively in two articles - 59,2%.

Against the background of this transfusion, a small business in the field of agriculture, hunting, forestry, fishing and fish farming has a total 2,9%. Manufacturing industries occupy 9,5%, transport and communications - only 6,8%.

In addition, in 2014, the ratio of profitable and unprofitable enterprises in the segment of micro, small and medium businesses was 80: 20. Every fifth company was unprofitable.

Why so bad?

At the end of 2012 and the first half of 2013, individual entrepreneurs left the business en masse, closed the enterprises. This was due to a sharp increase in government (in 2,3 times!) Insurance premium rate to the Pension Fund from the beginning of 2013 of the year (from 14.386 rubles to 32.479 rubles). In 2013, 965.089 SP was discontinued. Almost a million! Later, the number of IPs also decreased: in 2014, the number of discontinued activities was 500 thousand, in 2015, 400 thousand. The reduction of IP in 2014-2015. analysts explain the impact of the crisis.

As for the notorious import substitution, in 2015, the experts did not identify the relevant processes in most industries.

Experts from the Institute of Economic Policy. Gaidar Andrei Kaukin and Pavel Pavlov, notes IA "REGNUM"indicated that the policy of import substitution in Russia does not lead to large-scale results. Only in some industries there is a substitution of imported goods by domestic (weak): in the metallurgical complex, the textile industry and the automotive industry. But dependence on imports, including machinery and equipment, remained high. Low involvement in international value-added chains limits the possibility of increasing production in most processing industries, experts said.

The most noticeable scale of import substitution in the production of motor vehicles (the average annual share of imports in 2015 compared to 2014 was reduced by 22,5 pp), automotive components (by 5,7 pp), metals and metal ores (by 4,5 p. .), textile and haberdashery (7,8 pp), food (4,1 pp). True, the decline in the share of imports in the turnover of motor vehicles is due to the creation of joint assembly plants - that is, industries with the involvement of foreign partners (AvtoVAZ and Sollers).

At the same time, experts point out, there are a number of industries where the process is under way, the opposite of import substitution. This is primarily pharmaceuticals and the production of machinery and equipment. The average annual share of imports in the turnover of pharmaceutical and medical goods over the 2010-2015 years. fluctuated in the range of 50-60% (significant proportion); in 2015, it grew by 3,2 pp in relation to 2014, the devaluation of the ruble did not provide for the exclusion of imports: there are no Russian analogues for the spectrum of drugs and medical equipment.

In the machinery and equipment sector in 2012-2015 the increase in the average annual share of imports amounted to 17,6 pp Decrease in the average annual share of imports in 2015 by 1,1 p. it would be premature to interpret as a fracture of the medium-term trend.

“On the whole, the emerging picture indicates a low realization of the potential for import substitution,” the experts stated.

Some analysts write about the great possibilities of the programming market: they say, here "our" could turn around! Experts believe that there is simply no place to turn around in Russia: the market is very small.

President of Parallels Company Yakov Zubarev in an interview for Money magazine сказал about the prospects for import substitution in the IT industry the following: “I am very skeptical about import substitution in software in its current version and I think that it’s impossible to create something for the Russian market from scratch because it’s too small ... Operating systems cannot be made profitable especially for Russia. " To the question that officials refer to the experience of the PRC, he replied: “Because there is a huge domestic market, ten times ours. Everything! In addition, China is looking forward to 40-50 years, and in our country - to 3-5. ”

So what does the Russian government do? It consults.

13 March newspaper "Vedomosti" cited some details of a meeting on economic issues that took place in the Kremlin on the night of 10 on March 11.

President Putin has his assistant Andrei Belousov, Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev, his first deputy Igor Shuvalov, Finance Minister Anton Siluanov, and Economic Development Minister Alexei Ulyukayev, Chairman of the Central Bank of the Russian Federation Elvira Nabiullina, and Chairman of the Accounts Chamber Tatyana Golikova. The initiator of the meeting was Ulyukaev, a federal official told the publication. (By some messages, Sergey Glazyev and Alexey Kudrin were also present at the meeting.)

Ulyukaev tried to convince his colleagues of the need to stimulate economic growth at the expense of state investments, one of the forms of which would be project financing. This proposal was opposed by Nabiullina and Belousov, because they do not like the mechanism for selecting projects.

The Ministry of Finance has developed a methodology for assessing the “satisfactory financial condition of a borrower”: the value of the net assets of a company applying for financing and state guarantees cannot be less than capital. The borrower must be an operating company with assets that kills the essence of project financing, the manager of one of the state-owned banks said.

Another claim - to the banks. “Just in case they bring the project to the commission, get approval, and then don’t give out money for a long time,” the source told Vedomosti. According to him, the projects selected by the commission are much more than those actually financed.

The press service of the Central Bank did not respond to the request "Vedomosti". The representative of Sberbank (one of the key agents for the program) also did not respond to the request for publication. Presidential spokesman Dmitry Peskov declined to comment on the outcome of the meeting, the newspaper said.

Vedomosti recalls that under the project financing program in 2015, 42 projects were selected worth 347,3 billion rubles. Projects require 235,5 billion loans. This includes the creation of an icebreaker. fleet, airport in Rostov-on-Don, projects in the field of pharmaceuticals, import substitution in agriculture, electric networks, etc. As of March 4, 2016, the Central Bank refinanced loans under the program for only 69,2 billion rubles. (the words of Ulyukaev were cited by a representative of the Ministry of Economic Development).

Despite the urgency of the meeting, the “fate of the world” was hardly discussed there, the expert of the State Duma Committee on Economic Policy, Innovative Development and Entrepreneurship, Roman Terekhin, notes. “Most likely, no important decisions should be expected right now, but they can be announced soon,” he said. "Expert". - At such urgent meetings, ready-made important decisions are rarely made. But they can be discussed and planned; this is a more likely scenario. ”

So, it is obvious that the “economic bloc” - for the umpteenth time - did not come to a single solution. One gets the impression that our great minds sitting in the ministerial chairs cannot agree among themselves. If they agree, then in the "project program" there will certainly be some kind of failure at the level of intermediate links (the banking system, for example). Meanwhile, citizens of the country continue to buy Chinese toys and boots, wear Chinese shorts, watch Korean TVs, put American processors in Taiwanese computers, and enjoy a slight increase in world crude oil prices. Our forecast: against the backdrop of the likely increase in oil prices in 2016 to 50, or even to 75 dollars per barrel, the talk about "import substitution" and the development of "small business" will quietly disappear.

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  1. +22
    15 March 2016 05: 30
    Small enterprises can effectively work after the flagship - real serious production.
    1. +54
      15 March 2016 06: 17
      To summon Glazyev and Putin from the office for a smoke break, while they smoke, throw a grenade into the office with the "economic" government ....., and everyone will be happy !!!
      1. 0
        15 March 2016 08: 06
        yes, the government leads Putin’s nose, deceiving him constantly
        1. +40
          15 March 2016 09: 01
          This is an old play - about a good king and bad ministers (who allegedly deceive him)
          1. +10
            15 March 2016 09: 54
            First you need to pay attention to who gathered in the office for a NIGHT meeting ..
            Presidential Putin gathered his assistant Andrei Belousov, Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev, his first deputy Igor Shuvalov, Minister of Finance Anton Siluanov and Minister of Economic Development Alexei Ulyukaev, Chairman of the Central Bank of the Russian Federation Elvira Nabiullina and Chairman of the Accounts Chamber Tatyana Golikova. The initiator of the meeting was Ulyukaev, a federal official told the publication. (According to some reports, Sergey Glazyev and Alexey Kudrin were also present at the meeting.)

            DAM is not an economist at all, he is a lawyer and nothing more. Siluanov, Ulyukaev, Nabiulina - this is all from the block of the Gaidar-Chubais liberal company.
            Of particular interest is Nabiulin.
            Elvira Nabiullina ... considers the collapse of the Soviet Union to be a tragedy, while being a supporter of liberal, market approaches [26]. Nabiullina recognizes the evolution of her views over the years of views over the years in high positions. She notes that the ICRO has begun to pay more attention to economic stability and economic justice, equality of approach in regulation, stable and equal development conditions for the entire economy. In particular, Elvira Nabiullina criticizes the flaws of the reforms of the 1990s in Russia: “Probably the biggest question I ask myself in relation to Gaidar's reforms is: it was necessary to quickly privatize?” “Yes. It was necessary to create a class of private owners. But as a result of the privatization that took place, we have created an atmosphere of mistrust in private property. And this problem, it has been haunting us for many, many years. " Nabiullina believes that the pre-crisis model of Russia's economic development, based on constantly rising oil prices, was natural, but the resource has been exhausted and it should be replaced with a new one, based on private investments in competitive industries with a payback horizon of 3-5 years.
            (...) Nabiullina is considered the "gray cardinal" of German Gref. He is a student of the former Minister of Economics of Russia, Yevgeny Yasin, although, according to his later admission, after many years of work by Elvira Nabiullina in the team of Vladimir Putin, the views of Yasin and Nabiullina diverged.
            http://zampolit.com/dossier/nabiullina-elvira-sakhipzadovna/

            Nabiullina’s husband, Yaroslav Kuzminov, has been the founder and rector since 1992 of the National Research University Higher School of Economics (formerly HSE). It was he, and not Fursenko, for example, who was the author of the educational reforms introduced in our country through the government "roof" of Nabiullina - even contrary to Fursenko himself. - http://zampolit.com/dossier/kuzminov-yaroslav-ivanovich/
            And also - http://basman.mos.ru/deputies-of-the/mgd/yaroslav-i-kuzminov.php
            What HSE is a stronghold of Russian HSE liberals, no comment.

            And now we’ll listen to the Director General of the Center for Problem Analysis and State Management Planning Stepan Sulakshin (Published: July 2, 2014, July 1, 2014.)
            One more thing. (Published: November 28, 2014. Excerpt from the Internet program "Reflections on the Moment" of November 28.11.2014, 100 (issue # XNUMX)
            1. +1
              15 March 2016 11: 47
              Sulakshin is also an ambiguous character.
              1. 0
                15 March 2016 20: 30
                .. the minds seated in ministerial chairs cannot agree among themselves.

                Today Moscow in the middle of the day got stuck in traffic - GDP went to Neglinaya, to the Central Bank.
                I would like to think that the "minds" are "talking". Or pull on z..cy, which is also useful for some naebulins wassat
                1. 0
                  15 March 2016 22: 49
                  Quote: Lance
                  Today Moscow in the middle of the day got stuck in traffic - GDP went to Neglinaya, to the Central Bank.



                  Did you go? Has something changed in the country? Now is not the first person to call?
                2. +2
                  15 March 2016 23: 40
                  Quote: Lance
                  Or pull z..tsy, which is also useful to some naebulin

                  Only a VERY educated person can correctly pronounce the name, patronymic and last name of the Head of the Central Bank correctly .... laughing

                  I'm not very educated ....
                  1. 0
                    16 March 2016 00: 12
                    And here it is not a matter of upbringing, but the head of the Central Bank)

                    Kotu, why should GDP go to GOZ factories, but not to central banks?)
                    1. 0
                      16 March 2016 10: 14
                      Quote: Lance
                      And here it is not a matter of upbringing, but the head of the Central Bank)

                      Kotu, why should GDP go to GOZ factories, but not to central banks?)



                      There are such things as organization and subordination. If I can’t call the head of the Central Bank and give him a command, then something is wrong here ...
                      1. 0
                        16 March 2016 18: 15
                        Called already. Gave. And then he checked in with a check am
                      2. 0
                        16 March 2016 23: 09
                        Quote: Lance
                        Called already. Gave. And then he checked in with a check am



                        Especially with the report it is necessary to cause. laughing
            2. +4
              15 March 2016 16: 10
              Quote: Tatiana
              DAM is not an economist at all, he is a lawyer


              And he’s a lousy lawyer. Especially vividly showed himself as a "great jurist" during the "reform" of the Ministry of Internal Affairs - he carried such a blizzard on his blue eye that I fell from the sofa laughing.
              Looks like he was in graduate school, instead of gnawing at the granite of science and writing a dissertation, glued leaflets at Sobchak's election headquarters and ran for beer. It is not yet known due to what garters he generally graduated from the university and got into that graduate school - vague doubts torment me. Lawyer, damn it.
            3. +1
              15 March 2016 23: 45
              Quote: Tatiana
              (According to some reports, Sergey Glazyev and Alexey Kudrin were also present at the meeting.)
              DAM is not an economist at all, he is a lawyer and nothing more. Siluanov, Ulyukaev, Nabiulina - this is all from the block of the Gaidar-Chubais liberal company.
              Of particular interest is Nabiulin.

              And I did not understand at all who Kudrin was there and, most importantly, why? Do not steal? am
          2. +4
            15 March 2016 11: 56
            This is an old play -


            Yes, and here it is, an article cheating. With elements of lies. If this lies are thrown back, then the situation in Russia directly reflects the situation in the West. One to one. The difference is that the West is constantly injecting a dose of loans, and Russia is trying to get by with breakdowns. Yes, and the West is heterogeneous. The number and quality of legal entities is completely different, for example, in Italy and the UK. About the statistics of enterprises per 1000 people, it’s generally nonsense, then in China it is the smallest indicator, and it turns out that the lower this indicator, the more developed the country, ha ha ha. The most dangerous thing in this case is to maintain and support complete amateurs, who can do nothing but theorize. Allow them to control and weap so much trouble that we recall with sadness today. As we recall yesterday.
            1. Hon
              +6
              15 March 2016 13: 15
              Quote: Asadullah
              The difference is that the West is constantly injecting a dose of loans, and Russia is trying to get by with breakdowns.

              All fools are Russia alone smart, but why did the ruble so fall as soon as oil fell in price?
              Quote: Asadullah
              About the statistics of enterprises per 1000 people, it’s generally nonsense, then in China it is the smallest indicator, and it turns out that the lower this indicator, the more developed the country, ha ha ha.

              it is funny that the number of small and medium enterprises in China is growing annually, their profits, the number of employees and the share in the country's GDP are also growing
              1. +4
                15 March 2016 16: 35
                All fools are Russia alone smart, but why did the ruble so fall as soon as oil fell in price?


                Russia is not smart and not stupid, it is simply not strong enough. When a country is closed and there are no market relations in it, it is quite simple to establish an economy - order and law enforcement agencies will be executed, and the supervisory ones will control it. Development will be weak and depend on the movements of the center. When a country is open and the economy is market, the economy will fully comply with market realities and the law of competition. And law enforcement and supervisory authorities will use instruments of deterrence and counterbalance. Development in this case is provided by a common mechanism for all such countries. From that, the ruble fell not because oil fell in price, but as a deterrent to the outflow of foreign exchange reserves from the country. Since those consisted of export revenue. This is a response to the financial war declared by the West. Yes, the ruble fell, oil fell in price, but excuse me, the oil industry went bankrupt? And now we look that the financial aggressor, high-tech oil production from the sands, is almost completely ruined, shale oil and associated gas are more than half ruined. Wheat, exports fell to unprofitability due to cheap Russian wheat. And much more, not on such a scale. This is an exchange of blows, and Russia, although not strong, not only holds the blow, but also gives change.

                it is funny that the number of small and medium enterprises in China is growing annually, their profits, the number of employees and the share in the country's GDP are also growing


                To make it even funnier, divide half a billion into a thousand and print the number of Chinese enterprises. Yes, and if you think that the CCP in some special way takes care of private enterprises, then welcome that tea, register, a week later we will see you at the garbage cans in search of food.
                1. Hon
                  0
                  15 March 2016 22: 09
                  Quote: Asadullah
                  the ruble fell not because oil fell in price, but as a deterrent to the outflow of foreign exchange reserves from the country. Since those consisted of export revenue. This is a response to the financial war declared by the West. Yes, the ruble fell, oil fell in price, but excuse me, the oil industry went bankrupt?

                  no, the oil industry has not gone bankrupt, there is fat in stock, and the state helps, the tax maneuver is an example. reduced export duties on oil, increased MET in exchange, thereby the state itself reduced the flow of expensive currency to the budget, because the duty depends on the world cost of oil, although it is low but in foreign currency, and MET was transferred in rubles, thereby transferring part of the losses of oil companies for domestic consumers, mineral extraction tax can be included in the price of fuel and lubricants, and there is no export duty, and part of other extractive industries, minerals are not only oil and gas.
                  Quote: Asadullah
                  And now we look that the financial aggressor, high-tech oil production from the sands, is almost completely ruined, shale oil and associated gas are more than half ruined. Wheat, exports fell to unprofitability due to cheap Russian wheat. And much more, not on such a scale. This is an exchange of blows, and Russia, although not strong, not only holds the blow, but also gives change.

                  great we were pushing the aggressor, now he will know how to contact us!
                  and why does the aggressor have a growing economy and we have stagnation?
                  Strengthening positions in the grain market is certainly good, but against the backdrop of a general economic decline, including production, it is more a comforting prize than a victory. By the way, the United States still occupies the first place in the world in wheat exports, as it does not fit with the loss-making.
                  Slate covered with a copper basin, and the United States noticed this? against the background of their economy, such a loss is insignificant. although even at this price, the production of shale oil is not stopped. all the more so because it is quite possible not only the Saudis but the USA to stand behind the reduction in oil prices, to lose shale production (then you can start up again), but these are just the necessary victims, on the other hand, many American companies benefit from cheap oil, which is why and higher than usual economic growth.
                  but about the oil from the sands I didn’t understand something, did the Saudis go bankrupt or who? many countries, of course, feel bad, but what does the USA care about? especially among these countries there are not a few enemies of the United States.
                  Quote: Asadullah
                  To make it even funnier, divide half a billion into a thousand and print the number of Chinese enterprises. Yes, and if you think that the CCP in some special way takes care of private enterprises, then welcome that tea, register, a week later we will see you at the garbage cans in search of food.

                  the share of SMEs in China's GDP is 55%, which is certainly less in comparison with the EU and the United States, but given the size of the Chinese economy and the constant growth of this indicator, it speaks of great importance for the Chinese economy. it’s not clear that it amuses you so much.
                2. Hon
                  0
                  15 March 2016 22: 12
                  The Chinese government is trying in various ways to promote the economic growth of SMEs, improving legislation aimed at regulating the economy and taxation of SMEs, providing for equal opportunities for enterprises regarding lending, investing, improving production, introducing new high technology in the country's economy. In China, state funds are actively operating to support and develop the activities of SMEs, the main focus of which is to provide guarantee obligations for SMEs with the aim of obtaining bank loans for business development. One of the most popular is the State Fund for the Development of Small and Medium Enterprises, the creation of which was funded from the budget of the country. This fund helps protect the interests of SMEs in comparison with large businesses in all economic areas and provides certain tax benefits and additional financing.
                3. Hon
                  +1
                  15 March 2016 22: 18
                  Small business is also supported by the Chinese Center for Coordination and Cooperation of Business, whose main task is to create special conditions for cooperation between Chinese and foreign organizations supporting SMEs. Another important body promoting the development of the Chinese economy is the state information service CSMEO, which was established in 2001. This service provides information counseling services to the public on the activities of SMEs through its website. The CSMEO network covers all regions of China, which makes it possible to timely inform the population about the state of the labor market, changes in existing legislation, the latest achievements in science and technological inventions, about the development and condition of SMEs.
                  Thus, it is the SME sector that creates new jobs in the Chinese economy, while actively participating in the development of innovative technologies. The Chinese government, in turn, pays great attention to the development of SMEs in the country by improving the legal legislation in the field of regulating the activities and taxation of SMEs, creating SME support funds, attracting investments in this sector, and expanding lending programs for this economic entity.
            2. 0
              15 March 2016 20: 20
              Asadullah

              Not in the eyebrow, but in the eye. Absolutely.
              1. +3
                15 March 2016 20: 26
                Add.

                The market must have a tight regulatory framework. It is a bluff that the market is a system of self-regulation.

                The Russian Federation cannot have the same prices as China has for a product of production. Due to many factors. It means that it is necessary to settle by increasing duties at the border, leaving the same tax rate.

                It is necessary to strictly monitor the income of the population. And this is no longer from the field of market regulation. This is already from the field of planned economy.
        2. +7
          15 March 2016 09: 01
          This is an old play - about a good king and bad ministers (who allegedly deceive him)
          1. -1
            15 March 2016 12: 22
            The economy is the responsibility of Medvedev, not Putin. Putin is neither a king nor a dictator; do not exaggerate his capabilities.
            1. Hon
              +8
              15 March 2016 13: 18
              Quote: Mairos
              The economy is the responsibility of Medvedev, not Putin. Putin is neither a king nor a dictator; do not exaggerate his capabilities.

              Do not remind who the prime minister appoints to the post?
            2. +8
              15 March 2016 13: 19
              Quote: Mairos
              The economy is the responsibility of Medvedev, not Putin. Putin is neither a king nor a dictator; do not exaggerate his capabilities.

              Constitution. St.80, clause 3.
              The President of the Russian Federation in accordance with the Constitution of the Russian Federation and federal laws determines main directions of domestic and foreign policy of the state.
              Art. 83
              President of Russian Federation:
              a) appoint, with the consent of the State Duma, the Chairman of the Government of the Russian Federation;
              b) has the right to chair meetings of the Government of the Russian Federation;
              c) decide on the resignation of the Government of the Russian Federation;
        3. +7
          15 March 2016 10: 12
          yes, the government leads Putin’s nose, deceiving him constantly
          -------------------------------------------------- ------
          Like an adult, but believe in fairy tales.
          1. +6
            15 March 2016 11: 20
            I forgot to draw a smiley)
        4. +2
          15 March 2016 10: 15
          Quote: Million
          yes, the government leads Putin’s nose, deceiving him constantly

          Quote: OldWiser
          This is an old play - about a good king and bad ministers (who allegedly deceive him)

          Quote: Tatiana
          DAM is not an economist at all, he is a lawyer and nothing more. Siluanov, Ulyukaev, Nabiulina - this is all from the block of the Gaidar-Chubais liberal company.
          Of particular interest is Nabiulin.

          Quote: Tatiana
          Nabiullina’s husband, Yaroslav Kuzminov, has been the founder and rector since 1992 of the National Research University Higher School of Economics (formerly HSE). It was he, and not Fursenko, for example, who was the author of the educational reforms introduced in our country through the government "roof" of Nabiullina - even contrary to Fursenko himself. - http://zampolit.com/dossier/kuzminov-yaroslav-ivanovich/
          And also - http://basman.mos.ru/deputies-of-the/mgd/yaroslav-i-kuzminov.php
          What HSE is a stronghold of Russian HSE liberals, no comment.


          These are clear enemies
        5. +3
          15 March 2016 10: 34
          Yes, our guarantor is very glad that the government and the Central Bank are cheating him, then you can blame everything on them for their inability, but he urgently demanded to do traffic rules
          1. +3
            15 March 2016 13: 22
            Quote: Koshel2901
            do traffic rules


            And how do you like 350 dead on the roads, in Afghanistan we lost 000 in 10 years. It turns out that every year we have more than 15 years of Afghanistan.
            It’s time for traffic rules to get busy, and not only the right to permanently strip all freaks, but also confiscate cars. Our only ruble and will pass, they do not understand the words. Sometimes you look at the accident in the mailbox, it seems that some idiots are driving, of course I understand most of the normal ones, I go and see for myself, but what they show, my hair stands on end.
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            2. +1
              15 March 2016 15: 35
              And we have gas in the apartment, and you?
              And here we have a water supply system!
              And from our window the red square is visible ...
              .....................................
              It was evening, there was nothing.
        6. +9
          15 March 2016 10: 46
          Rather, Putin and the government are leading us by the nose.
          1. +19
            15 March 2016 12: 24
            Quote: midashko
            Rather, Putin and the government are leading us by the nose.

            Remembered feel
            Putin:
            Good evening, you need to resolve the issue. Rosneft needs to pay off its bonds for crazy thousands of ye, there is no liquidity, Elvira, right? What are the suggestions?

            Nabiulina:
            Yes, now finding a currency is a problem, many corporations close the year, pay Eurobonds, the currency is priced, foreign markets are closed, there is no currency liquidity request
            Putin:
            Igor, didn’t you pay off before?
            Sechin:
            Yes, damn it, who knew then .., Elvira dulled, did not beacon in time.
            Nabiulina:
            Well .., to predict the consequences of our wise geopolitics is very difficult ..
            Gref:
            Ty Yudaev, a macroeconomist, had to foresee and calculate!
            Putin:
            In short, colleagues, I'm listening to suggestions.
            Sechin:
            In general, the scheme is this: we issue bonds, German and Andrei buy everything up, and then they repeat it with the Elvirs, the grandmas received are convertible in ye. Profit
            Putin:
            How will this affect the course?
            Kostin:
            Sucks. But, technically, no one has anything to do with it, all the speculators are damned. In the media, we are indignant: the Americans strangle the country, rising from its knees. Then Sasha (Tkachev) will throw, they say the Crimean need to beat off, bear with it, the Imperials. Break through, short.
            Putin:
            Elvira?
            Nabiulina:
            Frostbite. Raise the bet, such as the fight against speculators.
            Sechin:
            -Elvira, the current after the transaction, and not before, ok?
            Shuvalov, Gref:
            - Yes, she understood!
            Putin:
            -OK. So let's do it. If, at the peak, Yudaev is announced with salt and loudly announced, all the same, she is not a nifu in macroeconomics, and we’ll just troll Elvira.
            Sechin:
            -Maybe salt? Yudaeva will not get off, I'm afraid :(
            Putin:
            -No, you can’t merge, we’ll try to panic, we will sign our own stupidity.
            -Dima, damn it, wake up!
            Medvedev:
            -Who is there?!
            1. 0
              15 March 2016 16: 42
              I remember feel


              It was played on Radio Liberty for a whole month. Are you from there?
              1. +1
                15 March 2016 17: 51
                Quote: Asadullah
                Are you from there?

                I'm from here Yes
                Quote: Asadullah
                It was played on Radio Liberty for a month

                I don’t know this request
        7. +3
          15 March 2016 11: 21
          if anyone doesn’t understand, this is sarcasm
        8. +4
          15 March 2016 14: 27
          Quote: Million
          Yes, the government is driving Putin’s nose

          Do not pretend to be. Is Putin a naive stupid boy?
          It's just not that simple.
          They wanted, they say, and began to produce computers and underpants that were competitive, primarily in price, with the products of world leaders.
          In the USSR they would not let them out if someone forgot (does not know because of their young age) how they fought for "import" then, how much they cost and what did American jeans, Japanese TV, not to mention a brand new foreign car, cost and what the owner's pride meant. It's better to keep quiet about the 90s.
          And to close the country and produce obviously worse products is a way to nowhere.
          You can also stop selling oil. We sell it a lot abroad, and it affects the flow of currency, which is worthless request The dollar will cost 200 p., But will become stable. laughing Will not depend on oil.
          And you can increase the production of underpants, televisions, hats quite competitively capable, albeit taking into account some protectionism, but this takes several years of hard political, economic and purely technical work of very intelligent people. And no Putin will be able to establish such a global import substitution at once.
          Moreover, a lot, most likely, it is most reasonable to buy different in the same China and Taiwan. And in Europe and the Americas only breakthrough technologies and specialists to buy (or steal).
          To increase the production of the high-tech industry by 3 times, and not to increase oil exports, and the ruble will become stable, not dependent on fluctuations in hydrocarbon prices.
          1. +4
            15 March 2016 16: 26
            Many still think with conscientious thoughts. Need to produce competitive products. Right. But it is more important that the standard of living of our citizens is higher. After all, the sense will be from domestic smartphones and computers if they are not bought. The point is not in the falling ruble and not in import substitution. The point is the welfare of the people. And just about all of them forget. Need to create jobs. And preferably more high-tech. And plans to boost the economy will fall if the situation continues when it is easier for a young engineer to go to sellers than to a factory. Although it’s even worse now. Sometimes you don’t even get into production.
            1. -1
              15 March 2016 16: 46
              Many people still think with conscientious thoughts ...... We need to create jobs.


              laughing Well, you understand ..... who will create jobs? By the way, if you ask this question to the US State Department, they will be very surprised.
              1. +2
                16 March 2016 14: 28
                why should I ask a question to the State Department if they should think about it in our country7
                And why cannot this state create jobs? Can’t it be possible to encourage the creation of various cooperatives? In the countryside, people have nowhere to sell agricultural products. Why not buy up7 Why not rely on joint agricultural enterprises and not on farmers7 But no, let's better invest in American papers.
                After all, starting with agriculture there is a real chance to raise the entire economy of the country. Indeed, for stable agriculture, the chemical industry is needed. Light industry and mechanical engineering. We all have it, and the need for it will create a need and everything will go. The main thing is to do everything consistently and wisely.
                But these are international problems. And all because the power in our country has never respected ordinary people. You know, I don’t like the speeches here, they say it’s better to steal but stability. But stealing is not something abstract but what we and our ancestors created. After all, we created our industrial giants. Our grandfathers and fathers built Magnitogorsk and GAZ. The people built a VAZ and AZLK. But they were privatized and you don’t have anything for it. They steal yours and you are only for it. The main thing is stability for you.
            2. 0
              15 March 2016 20: 35
              Gorodovik

              Well it’s clear that jobs are good.
              It is clear that household incomes should at least not fall.

              But how to do it? Suggestions will be?

              I will say that these problems are international. One to one.
          2. 0
            16 March 2016 06: 31
            Quote: Alekseev
            Wanted, they say, and began to produce computers and a coward


            Firstly, they produced the panties themselves and, by the way, they are very good ones. My wife, a seamstress, was at a knitwear factory, she even has the Order of the Badge of Honor for a good job, and the salary was under 300 plus. Whoever lived in the USSR knows what kind of money it is. And now, instead of a factory, there is a shopping and entertainment center. And so they did with the lion's share of enterprises, so hello Chubais. And the judgment of history is still awaiting them, they will be remembered.
        9. 0
          15 March 2016 17: 21
          he is the leader t is responsible for their actions
      2. +4
        15 March 2016 08: 54
        Khazina in the State Bank of the Russian Federation))))))
      3. +1
        15 March 2016 09: 20
        it might work laughing
      4. +3
        15 March 2016 09: 47
        Quote: Bone
        throw a grenade ....., and all will be Happiness !!!

        One is not enough! laughing
        1. +3
          15 March 2016 11: 33
          It’s as if their mugs are armored, even though they have pisses in their eyes, they are doing their dirty deed and they are doing it ...
      5. +3
        15 March 2016 12: 35
        Two grenades and a machine-gun burst, .. two bursts, .. two ribbons, .. and a grenade lol
      6. +1
        15 March 2016 12: 40
        Change the awl for soap? Better at once And then others.
      7. +1
        15 March 2016 16: 11
        Quote: Bone
        in the office with the "economic" government to throw a grenade ....., and everyone will be Happiness !!!

        I would have done easier-put against the wall and shot like mad dogs! Fifth convoy, you can minus!
      8. 0
        15 March 2016 22: 47
        Quote: Bone
        To summon Glazyev and Putin from the office for a smoke break, while they smoke, throw a grenade into the office with the "economic" government ....., and everyone will be happy !!!



        Better go with a machine gun
    2. +13
      15 March 2016 06: 24
      "On the night of March 10-11, a meeting on economic issues was held in the Kremlin." - I don’t draw any historical parallels, God forbid this ungrateful affair, but I like to hold GDP at meeting nights, like Iosif Vissarionovich ... Things remain small ... Maybe then the situation in the economy will change dramatically! laughing
      1. +7
        15 March 2016 07: 30
        Well no. Here it smells more likely - "the guard is tired, gentlemen sitting down."
    3. cap
      +3
      15 March 2016 07: 43
      Quote from Korsar4
      Small enterprises can effectively work after the flagship - real serious production.


      There is something similar in Japan. An inconceivable number of contractors for all branded firms. I will name the most famous Toyota, further down the list.
      The only "advantage" the Japanese has is nowhere to run. The island, however. laughing
      1. +13
        15 March 2016 08: 00
        One gets the impression that our great minds are seated in ministerial chairs
        This phrase touches the reader very much. Are there really those who believe in Medvedev, Dvorkovich, Mutko, Ulyukaev and Co.?
        1. +12
          15 March 2016 10: 37
          What is the guarantor and government
        2. +3
          15 March 2016 10: 55
          Quote: smel
          One gets the impression that our great minds are seated in ministerial chairs
          This phrase touches the reader very much. Are there really those who believe in Medvedev, Dvorkovich, Mutko, Ulyukaev and Co.?

          But how not to believe something? You look at their open, honest faces. From them, the wind of freedom, democracy and tolerance blows. And most importantly, Vladimir Vladimirovich believes them. I hope you believe the President’s choice?
        3. +1
          15 March 2016 11: 23
          Yes it's just irony
        4. 0
          15 March 2016 11: 23
          Yes it's just irony
        5. +5
          15 March 2016 15: 44
          Smel (3) today
          Are there really those who believe in Medvedev, Dvorkovich ... and Co.?

          Nobody believes them. That is why this topic was forbidden to be discussed on TV, as if it did not exist. Putin's team has played so much in budget roulette that if adequately minded people came to power today, they would all be imprisoned for long periods with complete confiscation of their property. The President himself (and this is no longer an illusion) is the main actor in this long-standing booth. His indefatigable struggle against world evil without regard to the economy, his unwillingness to carry out structural changes for the sake of insatiable representatives of his clan, caused enormous damage to the country and its immediate environment. It's time to face the truth, and stop singing "songs" about a good tsar and his inadequate boyars. These people must leave the political horizon, otherwise they will be kicked out of there.
        6. 0
          16 March 2016 06: 34
          Chur me, from these ghouls. hi
    4. +8
      15 March 2016 07: 58
      Small enterprises can work effectively without a flagship - they work more with a private and small customer - and this is the meaning of their existence. And they can raise the economy without state investments - if only they would not interfere and give a minimum of preferences - they would not choke on rent, connection fees, etc.
      1. +8
        15 March 2016 09: 06
        Quote: alex86
        just not to interfere

        And due to what then will our wonderful government officials have their shadow income? After all, then the civil service will become a damned occupation -
        so you live on one salary
        (c) "The Diamond Arm"
      2. 0
        15 March 2016 09: 06
        Quote: alex86
        just not to interfere

        And due to what then will our wonderful government officials have their shadow income? After all, then the civil service will become a damned occupation -
        so you live on one salary
        (c) "The Diamond Arm"
      3. +4
        15 March 2016 09: 21
        Quote: alex86
        Small enterprises can work effectively without a flagship - they work more with a private and small customer - and this is the meaning of their existence. And they can raise the economy without state investments - if only they would not interfere and give a minimum of preferences - they would not choke on rent, connection fees, etc.

        The meaning of the existence of any business from the smallest to transnational corporations is to maximize profits at a minimum cost.
        Everything else is from the evil one.
        1. +1
          15 March 2016 21: 18
          Quote: Wheel
          maximum profit

          Yes, someone is arguing. It means that for a small enterprise the sphere of activity is small volumes, not interesting for "flagships".
        2. 0
          15 March 2016 21: 37
          Wheel

          Somehow, consumer incomes are not invested in the concept of maximizing profits by private businesses.

          Didn’t think how to squeeze in a squeezed-in thing?
    5. 0
      15 March 2016 12: 37
      An example in the studio. Please, without the "optimized workers" "transferred to contractors" from "really serious industries". AND?
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    7. +1
      15 March 2016 13: 43
      The system needs to be changed and there will be less stupid ones in the government. hi
      1. +1
        15 March 2016 21: 30
        Quote: siberalt
        stupid in the government will be less.

        But, I think, there are no stupid ones there - they are very interested in their pockets - from thousands and hundreds of thousands of small enterprises it is troublesome to collect a rollback, but from the "flagships" it is not difficult, and at the same time you can get a share in the flagships. In our city (I will not say the name, although this is Kazan), one very main official, being previously a very main official in another city (whose name is the same secret, although it is Nizhnekamsk) sent his people to all enterprises with a "request" to share ( what did you think, money? - what do you mean, this is obvious corruption, this is impossible with us) 10% of the property in business - just indicate that he or his person owns part of your business - and there are no costs, and no one gets it will be. And then this chief admitted on a blue eye - "I am not a poor man." So I wrote it and I think: can I get away with it? Or
        Quote: siberalt
        System

        better not to bully?
    8. +5
      15 March 2016 14: 30
      Quote from Korsar4
      Small enterprises can effectively work after the flagship - real serious production.

      What could be the flagship in the production of toys or panties? Under Stalin, there were more private cooperatives than there are now small enterprises. Even during the War, new enterprises were opened. The largest doll manufacturer in Russia, the "Vesna" toy factory, was founded in the summer of 1942 as a private cooperative "Toy". Craftsmen-homeworkers made 33 types of products from cotton wool, papier-mâché, pressed sawdust.
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  5. KOH
    +13
    15 March 2016 05: 43
    !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    1. KOH
      +3
      15 March 2016 06: 35
      I’ll also add that it is necessary for all these figures to hand out this work for deep analysis ...
  6. +18
    15 March 2016 05: 45
    One gets the impression that our great minds, sitting in ministerial chairs, can not agree among themselves. If they agree, then in the "project program" there will certainly be some kind of malfunction at the level of intermediate links (banking system, for example).


    In my opinion GREF spoke quite clearly about the position of our great minds including himself ... hehe sorrow from such a mind.

    “We lost the competition, I must honestly say. And this is technological enslavement, I would say so, we simply ended up among the countries that are losing, the countries of downshifters, ”Gref said at the Gaidar Forum.

    The same logic of thinking and the rest smile great minds in the economy of RUSSIA.
    1. +18
      15 March 2016 05: 55
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      In my GREF clearly expressed

      By the way, Gref, in my opinion, spoke quite honestly. Only when he says "
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      We lost the competition, I must honestly say.

      you need to understand that we are not talking about the country, not about Russia - but about our so-called. "economic elite", which turned out to be pure downshifters!
      1. +6
        15 March 2016 09: 06
        A new industrialization is needed, and the NEP is again offered to the Country. Yes, we are becoming more convinced ... cadres decide everything! ...
        Now, these are not our frames.
      2. +9
        15 March 2016 09: 10
        you need to understand that we are not talking about the country, not about Russia - but about our so-called. "economic elite", which turned out to be pure downshifters!


        Downshifters? They turned out to be thieves and grabbers, who even can not use the stolen plainly!
        As in a joke about a horse: "Well, I couldn't, I couldn't ....!"
        And there is nobody to demand from them!
      3. +3
        15 March 2016 09: 50
        you need to understand that we are not talking about the country, not about Russia - but about our so-called. "economic elite", which turned out to be pure downshifters!

        You're right...
      4. +2
        15 March 2016 16: 43
        Quote: avia1991
        you need to understand that we are not talking about the country, not about Russia - but about our so-called. "economic elite", which turned out to be pure downshifters!

        The "economic" elite has been appointed "political". I am sure that the matter is in the system built by Putin, and there is no role for Ulyukaev or Petrov. If they (Economists) decided to carry out reforms that friends or Putin personally do not like, could they ???
        1. +3
          15 March 2016 21: 00
          Quote: Al1977
          "Economic" elite appointed "political"

          As a rule, the opposite is happening now (“now” is in “modern history”): the ECONOMIC elite “appoints” the political one. For "Capital rules the world." And further actions of the political elite are dictated by the interests of Capital, which remains "above the Law."
          1. +3
            15 March 2016 22: 27
            Quote: Al1977
            "Economic" elite appointed "political"

            Politics is a concentrated expression of the economic interests of an individual, a group of people, society, people and the nation, as well as religious and professional corporations. That's all they lobby their economic interests through their political representatives in the country's authorities.
            In bourgeois society, the capitalist organizes production in order to increase his own profit — he doesn’t give a damn about the people — and under socialism production is aimed at increasing the well-being of the working masses and the people as a whole.
            A conceptual framework for politicians and the promotion of their so-called. political views is IDEOLOGY. With the change of ideology, reforms in education must begin.
            1. 0
              17 March 2016 00: 29
              Quote: Tatiana
              With the change of ideology, reforms in education must begin.

              So it’s not about education, is it? what
              As for Ideology - tell me, how can I change (or rather, replace!) What is not? request The ideology has not yet been framed in a coherent, understandable to everyone, and inspiring definition for everyone .. and what Putin said is like "Our national Idea is patriotism!" - this, forgive me, is like "a bunch of water": thoughtlessly and illiterate. And it looks, rather, as an attempt to dismiss the annoying fly: "Oh, leave me alone, not to trifles .. okay - here you go, just calm down!" And each of the sycophants rushed in every way to admire the "brilliant idea"!
    2. +7
      15 March 2016 08: 56
      Truly a Swan, a Pike with Cancer ..... Drive them in three necks, these bankers and bureaucrats, since they can't give a shit! .... You might think that it was not Gref and others like him who taxied into this swamp ... ! But these ..... not only are not able to rectify the situation, they do not even want to be responsible for it! A simple question! At whose expense are the European countries introducing a negative interest rate on loans? And why do we have the same rates that are unaffordable even for large businesses, not to mention small and medium-sized ones. An unconditional basic income will cause dependency? So these fatty creatures have lived with him for many years! In general, like Raikin's))) "We have enough of everything in our country! It's another matter that not everyone!" am
    3. avt
      +4
      15 March 2016 09: 29
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      In my opinion GREF spoke quite clearly about the position of our great minds including himself ... hehe sorrow from such a mind.

      Well, it’s a sin to laugh at sick people with a head injury, again, boxing doesn’t add health to everyone, there are people who are shocked by contraindications. Well, according to the article, they didn’t clean the bank garbage to the required level and you can’t pour money into the system that isn’t pumped from blockages - nothing will reach the recipient. So you can puff, spit, but Nabiulina is right, and Ulyukaev is discouraged by the campaign who got under the Nabiulina skating rink, he certainly is not asphalt, but it is also very painful to see someone, since they pushed the pusher at this level.
  7. +16
    15 March 2016 05: 50
    The press service of the Central Bank did not respond to a request from Vedomosti. The representative of Sberbank (one of the key agents in the program) also did not respond to the request of the publication. Presidential spokesman Dmitry Peskov declined to comment on the meeting
    That's all. What is there to talk about?
    They did not have a conversation about the fate of the country, but a "get-together"! And this makes it clear how far our "government" is from the real aspirations of the people ..
    1. +3
      15 March 2016 09: 24
      Quote: avia1991
      They did not have a conversation about the fate of the country, but "a get-together

      Naturally - the party farm asset (balance sheet commission) for cutting the budget - comrade Ulyukaev called for increased funding for "projects" (in which there is obviously an interest of some groups and clans - such as "industrial"), and comrades financiers (the banking sector - "banks are our everything!" ") - they seem to be cookies - like" the rules for selecting projects are not good "(other groups and clans are not allowed to the cake). And the natural rent due to low commodity prices is no longer enough for everyone.
      1. +5
        15 March 2016 10: 42
        Soon our forelocks will crack from the toothless internal economic policy of the guarantor
    2. +2
      15 March 2016 09: 24
      Quote: avia1991
      They did not have a conversation about the fate of the country, but "a get-together

      Naturally - the party farm asset (balance sheet commission) for cutting the budget - comrade Ulyukaev called for increased funding for "projects" (in which there is obviously an interest of some groups and clans - such as "industrial"), and comrades financiers (the banking sector - "banks are our everything!" ") - they seem to be cookies - like" the rules for selecting projects are not good "(other groups and clans are not allowed to the cake). And the natural rent due to low commodity prices is no longer enough for everyone.
      1. +1
        15 March 2016 13: 17
        As everything is simple and obvious)))
    3. +2
      15 March 2016 10: 41
      Vodka for a barbecue!
  8. Riv
    +6
    15 March 2016 05: 50
    Our government sends greetings to us from another galaxy. How many years has the history of small business been in the West? Hundreds? And ours want everything to be chocolate in twenty. It doesn’t happen like that. It would be better if the USSR’s legacy was disposed of correctly, and small business - it will find a place for itself around large enterprises.
    1. +10
      15 March 2016 06: 28
      And ours want everything to be chocolate in twenty. It doesn’t happen like that.


      It happens. Small businesses have been "developing" for hundreds of years, but they can be mastered in a much shorter time. And they did not master it: For how many years did the USSR become an awl in one place in Western (and not only) countries? How many years did it take to close the gap? And in how many years did it take Petrovskaya Russia to open a window to Europe? Exactly.
      1. Riv
        -4
        15 March 2016 07: 28
        Alas ... Already tried to take Western developments and implement them with us. And what's the point? The administrative command system itself excludes private initiative. To remake people - not ten years, and not twenty. Three generations must change. After all, we now have officials all come from the same scoop. They think that you can order about freedom and it will appear. Avothren! No one is behind their freedom in the queue.

        By the way, Peter, too, had just begun to cut a window in Europe, and Catherine had already finished making the door. How many years have passed? And because at that time there was no need to redo the way of the whole country. Only the nobility broke.
        1. +3
          15 March 2016 08: 23
          Redo people - not ten years and twenty


          How much did a Soviet man take in the Soviet Union? Exactly. And this is a qualitatively new identity, completely different from what it was before. Now, no one needs to alter their identity, the basis that is incredibly close to the one that should be. Only now it's all about political will and the alienation of certain individuals from the trough. In fact, it is enough just to provide the business with security (so that there are no raider seizures and deprivations in favor of officials), to make the tax system as convenient as possible, to give cheap loans and everything will suddenly change. And nobody wants this, so they feed us with promises "choose us again and ..." and excuses.

          Peter, by the way, also a window in Europe just began to cut through,


          Well, if you consider such large-scale reforms and a reduction in the lag of 100 years for yourself you know how many "just started", then hmm ... I will not argue.
          1. +3
            15 March 2016 09: 15
            Well, if you consider such large-scale reforms and a reduction in the lag of 100 years for yourself you know how many "just started", then hmm ... I will not argue.

            What is the backlog? What are 100 years old? Klabgennose-you are delusional ....! In the 70s, the USSR really won the "systems race" in all areas! Both in science and in industry!
            1. 0
              15 March 2016 09: 23
              Klabgennose-you rave ....! In the 70s of the USSR


              Klabgenose - you are raving! And here the 70s of the USSR and the reforms of Peter to which the quote refers to which before the USSR there was more than one century?
              1. 0
                15 March 2016 09: 39
                About Peter's "reforms" is a controversial issue, however; in general, the accession (after the Troubles of the late XNUMXth - early XNUMXth centuries) of the "pro-Western" and in fact the German dynasty of the Romanovs (Zakharyevs-Yurievs) was essentially the occupation regime of the West in Russia. And so the Romanovs could not rely on either the traditional army (archers and Cossacks), or the traditional elite - boyars and nobles. Therefore, Peter (who, according to some versions, was altogether replaced by an impostor during the "great embassy") pursued an anti-Russian policy - the Nikonian church reform (submission of the patriarchate to the Synod), the restructuring of the army in the German manner and a multiple increase in taxes, fees and taxes.
                1. 0
                  15 March 2016 09: 42
                  If you look at the results, then everything is not so debatable. Only the price is debatable.

                  and pursued an anti-Russian policy


                  Well, tell me why if he pursued an anti-Russian policy, a strong empire remained after him?

                  and a multiple increase in taxes, fees and taxes.


                  Which went to the maintenance of the army and without which such an army would not exist. What would happen if such an army weren’t you yourself guessed or most likely already guessed.
                  1. +1
                    15 March 2016 09: 57
                    Quote: rait
                    after him a strong empire remained

                    Which then took Berlin and gave it back; For 60 years she fought with Turkey for the Crimea; and almost collapsed as a result of the war with the so-called. "The Pugachev revolt".
                    Quote: rait
                    went to the maintenance of the army

                    Everything is in Russian - first to destroy the regular army ("shooters executions"), and then hastily and painfully to build it anew (from amusing regiments).
                    1. 0
                      15 March 2016 10: 04
                      Which beat the Swedes (you can take an interest in their army), beat the French and several more less powerful armies. But the Swedes and the French at one time were the strongest armies of at least Europe, if not the world. They also fought with Turkey, and if you had taken an interest in their strength, you would have understood that such a protracted war is an indicator of the strength of the army, Turkey was so strong.

                      first to destroy the regular army ("streltsy executions"), and then hastily and painfully build it up again (from amusing regiments).


                      Firstly, I recommend asking what those archers were like. Just because "rebuilding it" suggests that you are equal to the archers and the new Peter's army, which was built in a completely different way.
                      1. 0
                        15 March 2016 10: 16
                        Quote: rait
                        Turkey was oh how strong

                        In the 16-17th centuries - certainly - the Ottomans took Constantinople, conquered the Balkans and reached Austria and Hungary.
                        But you can’t say the same about the 18th century - gradual surrender of positions - on the Mediterranean Sea - Genoa and Venice; in the Balkans - to the Habsburgs; also lost the Crimea and the Caucasus.
                      2. 0
                        15 March 2016 10: 16
                        Quote: rait
                        Turkey was oh how strong

                        In the 16-17th centuries - certainly - the Ottomans took Constantinople, conquered the Balkans and reached Austria and Hungary.
                        But you can’t say the same about the 18th century - gradual surrender of positions - on the Mediterranean Sea - Genoa and Venice; in the Balkans - to the Habsburgs; also lost the Crimea and the Caucasus.
                  2. 0
                    15 March 2016 09: 57
                    Quote: rait
                    after him a strong empire remained

                    Which then took Berlin and gave it back; For 60 years she fought with Turkey for the Crimea; and almost collapsed as a result of the war with the so-called. "The Pugachev revolt".
                    Quote: rait
                    went to the maintenance of the army

                    Everything is in Russian - first to destroy the regular army ("shooters executions"), and then hastily and painfully to build it anew (from amusing regiments).
                    1. Riv
                      +1
                      15 March 2016 20: 10
                      Sagittarius was not really a regular army, but rather a transitional link to it. Their service was life-long, but it could be left, passing "by inheritance." As a result, a peculiar strelets class was formed. That is, it was an estate army, not regular.

                      Incidentally, the Streltsy army was also formed far from simple. From the middle of the 16th century and only to the 17th, their number became quite significant - 20.000 people. People needed to get used to such an innovation. Now imagine what would happen if Peter had been near Poltava only with them?

                      In the same way, at one time, Russian people were altered into Soviet ones. Not fast at all. It is difficult for us now to understand how strong the class contradictions were at the beginning of the last century and how difficult it was to eliminate these remnants. It just took about fifty years, even more. At the end of the last century in Europe there were White Guard organizations and print media.
              2. 0
                15 March 2016 09: 39
                About Peter's "reforms" is a controversial issue, however; in general, the accession (after the Troubles of the late XNUMXth - early XNUMXth centuries) of the "pro-Western" and in fact the German dynasty of the Romanovs (Zakharyevs-Yurievs) was essentially the occupation regime of the West in Russia. And so the Romanovs could not rely on either the traditional army (archers and Cossacks), or the traditional elite - boyars and nobles. Therefore, Peter (who, according to some versions, was altogether replaced by an impostor during the "great embassy") pursued an anti-Russian policy - the Nikonian church reform (submission of the patriarchate to the Synod), the restructuring of the army in the German manner and a multiple increase in taxes, fees and taxes.
                1. 0
                  15 March 2016 13: 32
                  One of the important issues in the evaluation of the politician: the population increased or decreased during his reign. Under the reign of Peter I, the population decreased by at least two million people.
                  They just ran away from serfdom and other amenities of life right up to the Far East. I'm not talking about subsequent rulers. Only under Elizabeth did this situation begin to level off.
              3. 0
                15 March 2016 13: 19
                I'm sorry, misunderstood
          2. +2
            15 March 2016 09: 23
            Quote: rait
            In fact, it’s enough just to ensure security for the business (so that there are no raider seizures and seizures in favor of officials), make the tax system as convenient as possible, give cheap loans and everything will dramatically change.

            Naive!
            1. 0
              15 March 2016 09: 33
              Well, offer other development options. As I understand it, the practice of selecting a business should be abandoned? Does this not affect the desire to do business in Russia and the riskiness of investing in it? Should constantly changing tax conditions be left? They also do not affect the attractiveness of investments in spite of the fact that today you calculated such taxes, and tomorrow they sharply became different (and by no means decreased) and all your calculations flew into the pipe at best? Or maybe you need to continue to give loans at tens of percent? Offer an alternative if you don’t like my options.
              1. 0
                15 March 2016 21: 07
                Quote: rait
                As I understand it, the practice of selecting a business should be abandoned?

                It is necessary. Because under today's conditions, business will continue to be oppressed - and all under specious pretexts.
                It is not the "conditions for selecting a business" that needs to be changed - the system needs to be changed ..
          3. 0
            15 March 2016 16: 46
            Quote: rait
            In the Soviet Union, how much did a Soviet person do? Exactly. And this is a brand new identity, completely different from what it was before.

            In the age of information technology, this is a matter of the month. Show the Conventional Nightingale all day on all channels and everything, everyone is lined up in a row and 86% of the Guarantor's support.
          4. 0
            15 March 2016 21: 47
            rite

            The system of price competition leads to lower production incomes. Accordingly, lowering the income of consumers who work in this production.

            By virtue of such competition, not the best but the strong one wins. Thus, the system leads to monopoly.

            So how were you going to live there? Under such conditions of distribution of material assets?

            Maybe there will be suggestions?
            1. 0
              16 March 2016 06: 18
              Yes and no. Lower income for the manufacturer, lower prices for the consumer, the consumer begins to buy more goods. Especially taking into account the fact that a decrease in prices can come at the expense of lowering costs with the same profit.

              By virtue of such competition, not the best but the strong one wins. Thus, the system leads to monopoly.


              Somehow somehow I did not notice the monopoly in specific areas.
      2. +8
        15 March 2016 08: 55
        Parsley closed a spacious door to Asia and cut a window into Europe ... the first Euro-Maidan ruler of Russia ... the previous tsars evolved the country and this one ruined the economy with state monopolies from above and sent a third of the population to the grave!
        1. 0
          15 March 2016 09: 27
          A spacious door to Asia where were some advanced technologies? laughing The territory can be as spacious as you like, Peter took technology. And as you know, they are not directly related. So for you he may be the first Euromaidan ruler of Russia, this will not change history. The abrupt flourishing of the Russian army (you can ask how strong Sweden was then and what was done to it) at that period, the use of more advanced technologies, including in shipbuilding, he laid the foundation for a strong Russian Empire. And the fact that a third of the population died with him the consequences of all this, although we can hardly know how many would have died if he had not done what he did. It's like with "Stalin's repressions" when everyone is indignant at how many people were killed, how many peoples were deported, but no one thinks about why it was done and what would have happened if it had not been done.
      3. +4
        15 March 2016 09: 27
        Small business grows around monsters. Even in the west it began. Around the powerful industries there always grows a bunch of small industries that feed and liberate their ugly and non-core processes.
        you can hardly start producing high-quality cheese from scratch. You need years of developing a reputation or you have to work under someone's trademark, but this is already a pseudo-small business. By the way, in the West, the overwhelming majority of farmers work this way, being in general the "slaves" of large corporations.
        Well, the most interesting thing is that small business knows how to get away from taxes well and any statistics about them are not particularly true. I’ll even say that it’s not at all. (I myself worked there) banal hairdressers cut a hundred square meters per month in remote regional centers, declaring 10 thousand each, then they are also outraged by the "extortion" of 30-40 thousand a year, but they do not quit working. small business in our country does not pay any exorbitant taxes, but the attempts of the authorities to constantly change something cause more irritation. It is the constantly changing rules and reports that annoy.
        Raise fees for any need, but you need to do this subtly skillfully and at the right time. Unfortunately, the authorities do not understand this and do not know how. Now is definitely not the time. All will go completely into the shadows.
        1. 0
          15 March 2016 09: 30
          just like that from scratch it is hardly possible to start producing high-quality cheese.


          Not unlikely, but they have already begun and no monsters were needed for this. You can even design and make automotive parts yourself in the framework of a small business, and I am silent about the IT sector. Small business is able to exist on its own without serving monsters, and on its own not just provide services to the population but engage in production.
          1. 0
            15 March 2016 10: 58
            Do you think that someone will buy ball joints "from Uncle Vasya"? Even if you have all the certificates and everything is in accordance with the law. Although I have an example where the accompanying production under the "monster" has now completely separated and squeezes the monster out of the market, but this is all from the accumulated reputation of cooperation with the monster, well, more subtle and flexible policies, as well as technologies obtained as a result of cooperation from the monster ... They would hardly have risen from scratch even without lured workers and specialists.
            Unfortunately, the small ones have problems because of their rare greed: as soon as they break out onto the market, they immediately begin to cheat and break prices.
            A banal example whit background. I then held it in my hands, the impression was that it was cheap Chinese, I wanted to buy it, but the owner still dissuaded me. Samsung s5 is much nicer
        2. 0
          15 March 2016 13: 38
          Small business grows around monsters

          It seems to me everything was exactly the opposite. A pyramid is built from the base, not from the top. It all started with the village, not with the feudal lords.
          O, rus! (Lat.) Oh, the village! A.S. Pushkin.
          I agree with the rest of your conclusions.
          ----
          O rus, quando ego te aspiciam.
          Oh village, when I see you.
        3. 0
          15 March 2016 22: 05
          Awaz

          A happy capitalism will not work without a rigid state. Taxes are ways to control the distribution of income. Capitalism leads to the enrichment of one through the impoverishment of others. In order to leave this motivation to one and provide him with the leadership of others, one must clearly be able to set the boundary of his income.

          So far, a single form of such a design in the world has not been issued. There was one craftsman.
          They say he did great, but modern sculptors distorted his achievements.

          This is me about I.V. if anyone didn’t guess.
  9. rom8726
    +14
    15 March 2016 05: 51
    There is a Ministry of Economic Development, but no economic development
    1. +1
      15 March 2016 09: 16
      And we always do! Ass, but no words))))) Or, as in this case, vice versa bully
  10. +9
    15 March 2016 05: 55
    Oh, I am not a layman, even an entrepreneur, BUT I heard from representatives of the IP that life has become just like that. Here are just those FEs (PEs) all polls are engaged ..., yes HO there, - junk from China (low-grade!) Is imported and sold here .. Whoever plows, sows, feeds, - WORK. They have no time to reason, although I am sure there are enough difficulties. hi
  11. +14
    15 March 2016 05: 58
    The parasites. Tricky pests. Such ministers were shot and done right. And these revel in their type of significance. Why are they being held?
    1. +10
      15 March 2016 06: 23
      The parasites. Tricky pests. Such ministers were shot and done right. And these revel in their type of significance. Why are they being held?

      And so that further from Us and Our children, downs with shifters would be made amorphous .... as it is conceived by the "partners" of the overseas !!!
    2. +12
      15 March 2016 07: 05
      Quote: Pitot
      Why are they being held?

      Well, Duc, the guarantor made it clear that otherwise he would have no one to work with.
      Where else can he find such faithful "experts"?
      1. +4
        15 March 2016 09: 47
        Quote: Wheel
        Where else can he find such faithful "experts"?

        Tested in the service of Sobchakovskaya and the cooperative "Lake" - nowhere to be found, that's for sure.
  12. +5
    15 March 2016 06: 01
    When there is nothing sensible in the minds of the economic bloc, all that remains is to sit and confer.
    1. +4
      15 March 2016 08: 19
      No, you can still SHOOT, well, or send "bamboo" in "sunny" Magadan to "spud".
      But seriously, while THIS "economic" link is at the helm, nothing good awaits us. While the economy will be ruled by people who treat the state treasury as their own wallet and not be guided by the idea of ​​the development and prosperity of RUSSIA, we will continue to observe such nightly "stupid" meetings.
      1. 0
        15 March 2016 16: 53
        Quote: jPilot
        No, you can still SHOOT, well, or send "bamboo" in "sunny" Magadan to "spud".
        But seriously, while THIS "economic" link is at the helm, nothing good awaits us. While the economy will be ruled by people who treat the state treasury as their own wallet and not be guided by the idea of ​​the development and prosperity of RUSSIA, we will continue to observe such nightly "stupid" meetings.

        86% of Russians are happy with Putin. So why change something? Reforms are carried out when the population is not enough, but for now there is no such mood.
        Designated people rule the economy. If they are not satisfied, they are hiring others, and not being shot, or do we live in North Korea? There, too, everyone is happy with Pilot, consider him a genius, and shoot ministers. From this they did not flourish.
  13. +8
    15 March 2016 06: 08
    And all that needs to be done is "government replacement", and none of these second-hand ministers should be allowed to come close to the Kremlin.
  14. +6
    15 March 2016 06: 17
    The average monthly salary of an employee is truly depressing: in 2014, it amounted to 19201 rubles. per month (total for small enterprises). On microenterprises and the one below - 15774 p. in months

    The salary is small, they don’t work ...
    But it goes to the 200 diesel diesel engine, which eats 13 liters per 100 km + heating, idling. So thousands of 3 -4 per day and leaves. We take at least 3000 for 25 days. it’s necessary to work. And we get about 75.000. Probably like Kadyrov, he takes money from the nightstand.
    1. +5
      15 March 2016 06: 44
      All that remains is for you to open the IP and just ride the Kruzak once everything is so good and simple. Are you already or from something not? I am a little familiar with the business, and I know a little bit of small (relatively small and naturally not sole proprietorship) companies with a turnover of 1.5 million euros per year. And the head of the company did not have money for the "Kruzak" you described, he had little money for anything. Just because the turnover is high, the profit is small, competition, etc. etc. Their business was on the edge and had to constantly develop in order to stay on this edge.
      1. +1
        15 March 2016 07: 33
        Quote: rait
        It remains only for you to open the IP and also ride a Kruzak

        I have no entrepreneurial streak. And this example is given from personal experience, after communicating with the owner of the machine. He has enough for life, it’s really an individual entrepreneur, officially the salary is small, how much is obtained in reality, he didn’t ask.
        Second example. Private security company, guarding the stores of a large network retailer. Officially, the salary is about 15.000, the rest is in the envelope.
        Naturally, they have
        Quote: rait
        Their business was on the verge and had to constantly develop in order to remain on this verge.
        1. 0
          15 March 2016 08: 17
          Exactly. An example from personal experience is indicative of the fact that such a minority is a minority due to the lack of competition. And most of the IPs lived so "well" that they were forced to go into the shadows and even close. The latter is worse, those who do not pay taxes at least provide some kind of employment and provision of services to the population. And now (and even earlier), you can easily see an IP person in a provider's T-shirt that is not in size, who walks home and offers to connect the Internet, receiving 400-500 rubles for each application.
      2. 0
        15 March 2016 11: 50
        Quote: rait
        It remains only for you to open the IP and also ride a Kruzak since everything is so good and simple.

        Well, what a primitive thinking, since you opened an IP, it means you ride a cruise, "everything is not so simple" (C) :-)
        1. 0
          15 March 2016 12: 12
          Here I am about the same.
      3. +1
        15 March 2016 22: 12
        would

        I also want at this kurzak. Will it work for everyone? Or he will begin this fairy tale again, about the smart and the rich.

        Capitalism is when one is rich due to the impoverishment of the majority. So who is radiating happiness here?

        No matter how, .. Well, you know ..
        1. 0
          16 March 2016 18: 21
          Capitalism is when one is rich due to the impoverishment of the majority.


          And some will say that capitalism is when a smart, educated, hardworking person works, studies, earns as much as he deserves and he does not take away a parasite sitting on his neck who does not want to work at all. Here, all the salt is in a sense of proportion, as always: rabid and uncontrolled capitalism devours everything around, rabid and uncontrolled socialism feeds parasites at the expense of workers. And you need some middle ground.

          I also want at this kurzak. Will it work for everyone?


          If everyone at once becomes smart enough, enterprising, working then completely. Another question is that in this situation Kruzak will no longer be needed, the brains appeared and it became clear that it is much more profitable to ride a regular car. Only then there will not be much cars. Another time will be, capitalism and socialism in the current sense, too, will not, but alas.
    2. +7
      15 March 2016 08: 05
      In general, Allah gives Kadyrov grandmother.
  15. +9
    15 March 2016 06: 18
    Quote: Riv
    and small business - it will find a place for itself around large enterprises.


    Yeah, I look well found a place. Particularly good place was found by the garbage dumps for the sons of the plant’s management, through which factories achieve, negotiate, and also saw various budgets for defense orders. Well on ...
    1. +1
      15 March 2016 09: 51
      That's right - it's
      business entities and affiliates.
      Words end, only the mat remains.
    2. +1
      15 March 2016 09: 51
      That's right - it's
      business entities and affiliates.
      Words end, only the mat remains.
  16. +8
    15 March 2016 06: 19
    For small enterprises, the lion's share is taken by wholesale and retail trade

    Judging by the abundance of vacant places in shopping malls and posters "For Rent", the lion's share in this sector is becoming a mouse. Low wages and debt load of the population contribute to this.
  17. +14
    15 March 2016 06: 31
    I'll tell you how one "small" enterprise was created .. Our FSUE was founded by one LLC, which is a high-ranking official .. sold at the price of scrap metal two repaired and modernized tugboats .. now we sit without these vessels and even hire them, and the small business works. ...
  18. +8
    15 March 2016 06: 32
    They put the country's population on the brink of survival, judging by the level of salaries, and require innovation. People solve other problems, not up to innovation. With such a salary, you need to stupidly produce something not for the domestic market, because demand, respectively, is low. But here taxes and other requisitions.
  19. +8
    15 March 2016 06: 32
    These ministers - economists put on the average salary of a Russian then maybe turnips start to scratch. We got it already with its idle talk.
  20. +2
    15 March 2016 06: 45
    On the night of March 10-11, the Kremlin hosted a meeting on economic issues. The meeting was attended by President Vladimir Putin, Dmitry Medvedev and heads of departments of the economic bloc. According to some reports, Sergey Glazyev and Alexey Kudrin were also present at the meeting.

    What a strange night vigil?
    Woe to the strategists of the day is not enough?
  21. +7
    15 March 2016 07: 11
    To begin with, at least a stable tax system has been created when you do not sit every year waiting for a new forte from the Ministry of Finance. This makes investments risky, in addition to the immediate business risk, the risk of unexpected losses from taxes and contributions is added, and it becomes difficult to plan something for a period of more than 1-2 years. For reference, who loves to harass the United States so much, take an interest in what carry back and carry forward on income tax is. In my opinion, this is the state’s concern for maintaining business and jobs in difficult times.
    1. +2
      15 March 2016 08: 27
      All right.
      I do not agree with you about "hait the US" we do THIS with them not for their economic condition, there is a lot to learn, but for their attitude to the whole WORLD and directly to us RUSSIA.
      1. 0
        15 March 2016 09: 15
        It's good that you share these concepts, unfortunately not everyone can boast of this, for many some one fact is enough to say that the whole system is complete G. Despite all the attractiveness of returns on profit tax in case of unprofitable activities, I would not introduce this we have. Our mentality is not the same, we have tax optimization = tax evasion. Therefore, we will have a lot of "left" returns. With us, on "left" returns on export VAT, they regularly screw up someone, and the profit tax will also be added. For now, it is enough just to ensure the stability of the tax system, and then improve the methods of tax control and tax preferences from the state.
    2. 0
      15 March 2016 10: 05
      Quote: Nix1986
      state concern for maintaining business

      When you rob the whole world, you can slightly and "take care of preserving the business" of your TNCs
    3. 0
      15 March 2016 10: 05
      Quote: Nix1986
      state concern for maintaining business

      When you rob the whole world, you can slightly and "take care of preserving the business" of your TNCs
  22. +8
    15 March 2016 07: 27
    I will only touch on small businesses. The biggest problem is that the legislative and power structures often change the "rules of the game". It seems that there was a good intention when the trading system was introduced. As a result, we got another haemorrhoid, and for someone new opportunities to make money out of thin air. There is, for example, an order with a reasonable price and lead time. At the first hearing of the auction, "competitors" emerge, who by definition cannot handle the case, but have fictitious legal grounds. We will cede our right to order, but for a certain fee. This is the first pumping out. Next comes someone who has won the competition, but not always willing to work on his own. As a result, a subcontractor appears who agrees to work for half the amount. The rest is the income of the winner of the competition. This subcontracting is recruiting a hired labor force, which is paid at the minimum wage. Hence, both quality and timing suffer. This, for example, is the essence of industrial relations in the construction of the overwhelming majority of projects under construction in Russia. The same cosmodrome in the Far East. But at least at least some of the people work in that process and create something material. The bulk of the "entrepreneurs" (in fact, speculators) buy Chinese or someone else's cheap stuff and become dirty! her market, doing a disservice to the Russian economy. Starting with rags and ending with airplanes. What a good opportunity for a greedy layman to grab the firebird by the tail! This has already led to the destruction of a lot of the legacy of the USSR. Do not miss their own and various controlling structures, such as IFNS. More jackals!
    1. +7
      15 March 2016 08: 33
      Quote: Evgeniy667b
      What a good opportunity for an avid amateur to grab a firebird by the tail!

      And these dilettantes are carefully nurtured and brought up by the same government: through "free" education, the media, where all young drivers are completely successful with their hands, and everything suddenly falls on their heads (like G.), through the dominance of entertainment and imposed in their teeth " easy "credit money ..
      "I want everything at once!" - this is the credo of modern man. But it doesn't work like that? ..
  23. cap
    0
    15 March 2016 07: 30
    "So, it is obvious that the 'economic bloc' - for the umpteenth time - has not come to a common decision. It seems that our great minds, sitting in ministerial chairs, cannot agree among themselves in any way. If they do, then in" project program "there is certainly some kind of failure at the level of intermediate links (the banking system, for example). Meanwhile, the citizens of the country continue to buy Chinese toys and boots, wear Chinese panties, watch Korean TVs, put American processors in Taiwanese computers and enjoy small growth world crude oil prices Our forecast: against the background of a likely rise in oil prices in 2016 to $ 50, or even up to $ 75 per barrel, talk about "import substitution" and the development of "small business" will quietly fade away.
    Reviewed and commented by Oleg Chuvakin "

    I read the article in full. The quoted passage is similar to a prophecy. A good selection of material, although overloaded with numbers, is only more conclusive.
    Everything has been known for a long time, but according to the special Russian tradition of recent years, the treatment of purulent tonsillitis is transferred from the therapist and, if necessary, the surgeon, they try to shift everything to the practitioner. It remains to wait for the results, alive and healthy. What I wish everyone hi
  24. +4
    15 March 2016 07: 33
    Here again, there are many times more small businesses in Europe. . for la ..topol. Russia is not Europe. Our rivers freeze up to a meter. And for most of the frosts all winter from September to May. We have a northern climate and any production will cost the same in a warm country. RZHUNIMAGU from the name "Gaidar Institute". This is not the same guy who developed 500 days, shock therapy, and so much nasty, there is not enough space to list here. How much can all be considered "PROFIT" ... Yes FSUs what and how much it costs if it should be and the people cannot do without it. Tanks with submarines and submarines and airplanes also cost a lot of money, and why not produce them now because of their high cost? The pipes .. passed. It is urgently necessary to return to Russia the legislative right of the Sovereign issue.
    Scary? And I think that it’s worse than the fate that Russia did not prepare. Nothing, break through ...
  25. 0
    15 March 2016 07: 33
    Nabiullina and Belousov opposed such a proposal because they did not like the mechanism for selecting projects.

    It would not hurt, before setting a provocative headline, to re-read your own article, Oleg.
  26. +5
    15 March 2016 07: 43
    Small businesses? peacock-mavlin, panim ... Yes, even in the manufacturing industry? and in the processing of agricultural products (that is, those that produce what goes on the table, directly, or on the ass, puts their back or head on)? Yes with the existing system:
    a) taxation
    b) financial reporting (with the requirement to pay the "imputed profit tax" - to sew a hat from a piece of the skin of an unkilled ... someone, and give it to me, the state; but for what ???) (with the requirement to madly pay "for the use of natural resources "to a peasant who weaves baskets and chairs from willow twigs ... but he has to pay extra for clearing floodplains of rivers, lakes and other bodies of water!) well, and so on - a stupid and thoughtless, purely formalized approach to calculations;
    c) control and supervision by supervisors and supervisors, as well as regulatory and supervisory authorities (sometimes one after another!) with the requirement to pay a fine for late submission of officially registered and examined by super-incompetent experts - an action plan for ... protecting consumer rights ... environment ... the production of socially significant goods - tea spoons or dog tags, for example ...
    d) ... E) ... e) ... and te de ...
    And this is all - for a small - ma-a-a-a-lazy enterprise! Where is the staff of the "office" - the founding director, an accountant (he is a cashier, an economist ... sometimes a cleaner ...) and (!!!) the CHEF's personal driver, Uncle Vasya! ...
    Therefore - where do they get it, small enterprises for processing, the release of this and the production of this ... itself? To do this - enthusiasm and desire alone is not enough, you need start-up capital ... capital ... but where can I get it? Does the state have a loan? at SUCH interest ??? ... It remains - "nadybat"! ...
    So there are industrial giants "daughters", closed joint-stock companies, joint-stock companies ... and so on, where the founders are the director (as a rule - the general!), His wife, son, uncle, brother, matchmaker ... and from Zatsepa grip. ..
    Ma-a-a-a-alye such - enterprises ... with a considerable authorized capital and fixed assets, successfully "privatized" by hooks from the hook! And - they buy from the "dad" - the main state production! -the raw materials it produces (an intermediate product of, say, pharmacy ...); then they sell this "raw material" - after repackaging and renaming (it is processing, well!) - CJSC at the same state-owned enterprise (the former giant of the Soviet industry ...) - which "produces" the final product at the production facilities and areas of the "father" - giant ... selling it at exorbitant prices to the state, as the product of "ma-a-a-lazy so ... but very necessary and expensive - an enterprise ...
    The fact is that the formation of small and medium-sized businesses in the West and in the former USSR did not just happen in different ways! There - it was created by enthusiasts, capitalist predators; and here - the existing production facilities were primitively and uncomplicatedly dismembered (do not forget to paint the icons of Chubais, Gaidar, Urinson ... and others, do they still remember them, our benefactors? ...)! with the subsequent theft and sale of "small" ones - if it did not work out (as a rule!) to work steadily and make a profit!
    ... Greed and greed, "entrepreneurs" - yesterday's officials from "industrial giants" and officials from the state apparatus collided ...
    ------------
    Well, this is just one "news" of small and medium-sized businesses in the former USSR ... an incomplete cut in one plane ...
  27. +1
    15 March 2016 07: 55
    On the night of 10 on 11 in March, a meeting on economic issues was held in the Kremlin.
    Do not say 37? Well, well ... Who did the government gather at our place at night, huh? bully
    1. +2
      15 March 2016 13: 27
      Which 37 current rulers are incapable of anything at all. They can’t build. They cannot manage. They can’t finance. And you are talking about such a HIGH PILOT 37 years as the selection of decent staff at key decision points. Do not make me laugh. The current government is NOT SUITABLE for such a principle.
  28. +7
    15 March 2016 08: 08
    and you friends, no matter how you sit down, everyone is not good at musicians
  29. +6
    15 March 2016 08: 17
    Do not lose sight of the fact that Nabiullina is a conductor of the ideas of the HSE, the center of the liberal economy in Russia, where, among other things, her husband runs the show.
    Relatively small and medium-sized businesses. Firstly, comparisons with other countries are not correct, because in different countries the criteria for classifying small and medium enterprises are different: both in terms of numbers and volumes. Secondly, many, for example, in the same Japan, are indeed included in the orbit of large enterprises. Thirdly, in developed countries, small and medium-sized businesses, or rather entrepreneurship, are most developed in the outback. The goal is clear - responding to real consumer demand. In our country, they are concentrated in Moscow, St. Petersburg, Yekaterinburg, Novosibirsk and other large cities where the bulk of the money is concentrated. And this is mainly not real business, but mediation. In essence, this is a profanation of an idea. Therefore, they often win at various tenders of companies that have only money, and then they look for performers in real production that cannot find money for survival - loans are not too high, imposing on them the enslaving conditions of cooperation. Fourth, entrepreneurship is the risk of someone who wants to do their own thing. The goal is clear - making a profit. Managed - well done, failed - bankrupt. The state in the person of the legislative power should only adopt the relevant laws, and the executive branch should ensure their strict observance. Continuous patronage of small business, the creation of some inconceivable benefits, exemption from taxes and inspections, does not give rise to anything other than dependency and the expectation of help from the state. And yet, a person who possesses certain qualities for this can become a real entrepreneur. Whoever manages to lay in the heads of the country's leaders that everyone should organize their own small business (entrepreneurship), it is enough to educate such people. Well, okay, Zhirinovsky is making noise about it, not knowing that it is simply impossible, and not necessary. For the state itself will then be forced to rake up the wreckage of failed businessmen - bankrupt. After all, there was an unsuccessful experience with cooperators in the eighties of the last century, when everything was built on a basis - give and help. In the 90s, the unemployed were offered to receive the allowance put forward by them, provided that they organize their business. And what, and where are they all. This is not at all funny.
  30. +3
    15 March 2016 08: 23
    - Nabiullina Elvira Sahipzadovna - In September 2015, Euromoney magazine recognized Elvira Nabiullina as the best leader among the heads of central banks in the world in 2015.
    - Mikhail Gorbachev - “Medal of Freedom” for 2008, awarded by the US National Constitutional Center, with the wording “for a courageous role in ending the Cold War”. The medal was awarded by US President George W. Bush at a ceremony in Philadelphia on September 18, dedicated to the 20th anniversary of the fall of the Berlin Wall.
    A conclusion to you !!!
    1. 0
      15 March 2016 13: 20
      The characters you listed are categorized as "useful idiots". These are people with limited understanding of the surrounding reality, but who think about themselves do not know that and therefore easily amenable to manipulation, and they perceive external manipulations AS OWN IDEAS. Well, the result is visible on the face ... Stalin created the MOST POWERFUL EMPIRE in 25 years of rule. The current idiots during the same period were able to profuse this empire and now they themselves are on the verge of non-existence due to the fact that their masters have declared war on them.
  31. +3
    15 March 2016 08: 24
    And what niche do small and medium enterprises occupy? It seems like this:
    1. public services
    2. transport
    3. retail
    4. construction and repair of residential premises
    5. some folk crafts
    6. agriculture.

    In any case, the activity of small and medium-sized entrepreneurs closes mainly to the private consumer, i.e. citizens. And in the citizens' purses the wind is walking today, and there is not enough money for anything other than paying for a communal apartment. And the government is cutting costs (salaries in the public sector). And one ruble of the budgetary salary for a year of turnover could give 10 real rubles. Well so it is necessary to think and work! And it’s easier for us not to pay, prohibit, impose and collect! And then no matter what happens!
  32. +5
    15 March 2016 08: 41
    Ulyukaev - “for”, Nabiullina - “against”
    And for whom, Mr. President. More like that. that Mr. President is sitting in a cart, which Ulyukaev pulls in one direction and Nabiullina in the other. And the president is satisfied, the cart does not shake and okay.
  33. +6
    15 March 2016 08: 53
    A country needs its own independent economy in order to survive.
    The implementation of all directives of international organizations is the path to the destruction of the country.
    The theorists of capitalism, representing the financial and economic bloc, do not see the country's development path - they have priority over the implementation of rules established from the outside.
    Only the socialist segment in the economy can save Russia.
    1) This is the creation of collective enterprises, where profits should be capitalized, and not paid to individuals.
    It is necessary to develop the periphery, village, small cities where there are labor resources mostly not employed. You need to start with the production and processing of agricultural products, the production of clothing, shoes.
    It is necessary to implement it in their own retail outlets, which are called social and located near social facilities, enterprises, so that a person who has finished work can buy products sold in his region, and not chemistry brought from overseas. These products are needed by the population, people lose their health from -for the quality of consumed products.
    It is necessary to develop a village, where the country will begin to develop. There a new generation of citizens of the country will be born and gain strength.
    Village development will improve the country's ecology. Megacities are an unacceptable burden on nature, they pollute rivers, they simply kill nature, huge discharges and emissions cannot be cleaned but of a natural state.
    2) Stop all games with national currency. The course of $ 70. $ is the financing of those who want to deprive the country of sovereignty, this is the financing of speculators and the robbery of people who have earned material wealth and are forced to support scammers, depriving their children of the opportunity to develop normally.
    First you need to create a non-profit bank for settlements, which will not dispose of invested funds. Today, commercial banks are a hole through which the finances of a country flow abroad. No need to fuel this outflow. The funds of national enterprises should be protected from financial speculation all, in full, and not by any insurance at the expense of investors.
    3) We need to work on legislation. The punishment for the robbery of a country, people, citizens should be tough and fair. Indeed, a person who has stolen, even re-traveling, just needs to be provided with work or forced to work, and officials should confiscate property for bribes, a ban on civil service for life. To protect the social segment of the economy, additional articles must be introduced.
    4) And no revolution, do not select, do not divide, do not prohibit.
    Different forms of management must exist in parallel, just collective property must be protected by additional laws from the actions of third parties and organizations.
    Somehow it’s necessary to pull out the country.
    1. +2
      15 March 2016 10: 29
      Let's not talk about the "socialist segment". Let at least be "state-capitalist". State-owned enterprises, state-owned banks, and so on on the list. But the movement, conversion and export of private capital must be limited and strictly controlled. Then the state protection of state property will not be needed.
      from actions of third parties and organizations
      1. +1
        15 March 2016 11: 56
        "The export of private capital must be limited" - if there is no such foreign investment in Russia, investors will not be able to take their profits.
        1. +1
          15 March 2016 13: 23
          Foreign investment in Russia is a stupid partial return of Russian capital, previously withdrawn to offshore. And so yes - under restrictions, our oligarchs will no longer be able to spend profits on Western European yachts, villas and football clubs.
        2. 0
          15 March 2016 13: 23
          Foreign investment in Russia is a stupid partial return of Russian capital, previously withdrawn to offshore. And so yes - under restrictions, our oligarchs will no longer be able to spend profits on Western European yachts, villas and football clubs.
          1. 0
            15 March 2016 16: 58
            "Foreign investment in Russia is a stupid partial return of Russian capital that was previously withdrawn to offshores" - What is the point of returning funds back to Russia, and where do the guys get so much capital from - so that every year eight trillion rubles to enter and withdraw.
    2. 0
      15 March 2016 10: 29
      Let's not talk about the "socialist segment". Let at least be "state-capitalist". State-owned enterprises, state-owned banks, and so on on the list. But the movement, conversion and export of private capital must be limited and strictly controlled. Then the state protection of state property will not be needed.
      from actions of third parties and organizations
      1. The comment was deleted.
    3. 0
      15 March 2016 12: 05
      "The rate of 70 rubles. $ Is financing those who want to deprive the country of its sovereignty, it is financing speculators and robbing people who have earned material wealth by their labor, and are forced to support fraudsters, depriving their children of the opportunity to develop normally." If the ruble had not been lowered, we would now have a budget deficit of not 1,5 trillion rubles, but all 4 with the corresponding consequences - a significant reduction in all government programs and project financing.
    4. 0
      15 March 2016 12: 18
      Megacities are developing in all major states of the world. And no measures of states to limit their growth do not give the desired effect. Most importantly, people tend to move there.
      Do you think that the former peasants and residents of small towns, especially young ones, for the most part dream of returning to their native places? Yes, even with jobs, benefits, etc. most young people will not return to villages and small towns. Maybe some of those who now work on a rotational basis will work in their native places. And even that is not all. Many people like the shift method of work, they do not always work on shift only because of the inability to earn a living in another way.
      Anyway, people are different, many really like the urban lifestyle, including life in megacities. For the most part, people didn’t leave the village for returning
      I don’t feel like living either in the countryside (there just relaxing, picking mushrooms, etc.), or in a very large city. Although I really like Moscow and Peter. I personally feel comfortable living in a city with a population of 200-500 thousand people. Actually, in one of these cities I live.))
      The mass of elderly villagers, including my parents, dream at least in old age to live in the city, in city apartments.
      And for points 2,3, 4 with two hands I am for. Yes, in fact, for most of what is in paragraph 1.
    5. +1
      15 March 2016 12: 22
      You probably think that the villagers have better moral qualities in comparison with the townspeople? And that rural youth are more healthy physically and mentally? Unfortunately, this has not been the case for a long time. And in some regions, just in rural areas, the level of moral and physical health of rural residents is lower than that of citizens. Unfortunately.
      1. 0
        15 March 2016 20: 05
        Collective enterprises from the Soviet era have survived in the village, there is a different life: calm, stability, normal ecology and people do not live in poverty. Here it is necessary to revive such farms. The form of ownership is different there, collective farms have opportunities for development, they need to be used. The rural area needs to be populated primarily because of state security, megacities are vulnerable to the challenges of the modern world because of crowding, ecology, finance, they weaken the state. There should be another segment of the economy — autonomous, independent of the West, and the country's territory should be populated. No violence, no one is resettling anyone, just people choose where they feel better, what democracy is: who is an employee, who is an entrepreneur, who is a member of a cooperative. This segment may exist. She herself worked at a large enterprise — during the period of changes, we had no problems — there was not only work, a stable salary, a developed social sphere, there were foodstuffs and manufactured goods. It just seemed to someone a tidbit, the enterprise went bankrupt and it ceased to exist, sold out in pieces. What I propose will work without state support, just do not interfere, do not allow to intervene. The state will no longer be vulnerable. Rebellion of Moscow is simple, taking 1% of the population to the streets is a riot. And villages scattered throughout the country with a stable, settled life will not turn any intrigues from the outside, that's where the support of the state is. And there are already significant intrigues from the outside, the same sanctions, they will not be canceled, it’s a bluff of the West, they can only be toughened up, everything that is integrated into the EU countries, the USA, all financial ties, oil prices - everything is controlled by those who want to destroy the Russian Federation as a state. What wrote in the commentary, this segment of the economy will not be able to destroy external forces.
  34. +4
    15 March 2016 09: 12
    .. "So what is the Russian government doing? It deliberates."
    good
    1. 0
      15 March 2016 12: 46
      So what is the Russian government doing? It confers. "
      So is it Soviet? lol
    2. 0
      15 March 2016 21: 51
      And a year ago, deliberated and two years ago, deliberated too ...
      I can’t understand if there are two different points of view regarding the development of the economy, then why not do the following. Take two identical regions, put our reformers on them (offering different development paths), allocate them resources for their projects. And let deeds prove who is right and how much.
      And so you can consult for a long time and to no avail ...
  35. +1
    15 March 2016 09: 20
    We will wait for conclusions about the nightly "kurultai", but it becomes clear that pro-Western economists at the helm of the current economy have no recipes for breaking the deadlock!
    1. +1
      15 March 2016 12: 28
      There is nothing to wait for. The conclusions of the night meeting were already voiced in the evening. It’s clear that this is only part.
      I can add the one-real earned salary for the financial and economic leaders of the state, not more than 0,5 minimum wage, they did not deserve this either.
      They do not cope with their duties.
      I remembered. At the enterprise in one workshop there was a problem, the whole enterprise suffered. There was a boss, young, educated, proved to everyone that the problem is not solved. Went to increase. They appointed another, to sit out before retirement, no one was waiting for any changes. And he solved the problem, a very elegant solution without financial investments.
      I have no nostalgia. This is the way to solve the country's economic problems. To remove experts from the financial and economic bloc approved from the outside and to appoint others with a different understanding of the economy.
    2. +1
      15 March 2016 13: 31
      They are excused by the fact that none of the Western economists have it. "Economics" = is over, gentlemen! And the Marx-Engels doctrine is eternal, because it is true))) Remember the political economy, comrades))) Therefore, drive these mediocrities in the neck and recruit a team adapted to the situation.
  36. KVS
    +1
    15 March 2016 09: 26
    when they introduce the personal responsibility of each official and, in general, an official in the performance of official duties, then order will come !!!
    and liability must be proportionate to the damage caused !!! as in China for the theft of the State. property shooting and confiscation of all property, and we add up to 5 tribe of all relatives of the official ...
    1. +1
      15 March 2016 13: 36
      when they introduce the personal responsibility of each official and, in general, an official in the performance of official duties, then the order will come

      That is, never. Because our officials are accustomed to follow someone else’s instructions without thinking, while stealing godlessly and never answering anything
  37. +3
    15 March 2016 09: 31
    The average annual share of imports in the turnover of pharmaceutical and medical goods during 2010-2015 fluctuated in the range of 50-60% (a significant proportion); in 2015, it grew by 3,2 pp in relation to 2014, the devaluation of the ruble did not ensure the crowding out of imports here: there are no Russian analogues for the spectrum of medicines and medical equipment.

    In our city, only the Chemical Farm has not oversold. Now, in general, the current owner is curtailing production. This is Putin's import substitution - it’s better to open a shopping center than release medicines.

    Meanwhile, citizens continue to buy Chinese toys and boots, wear Chinese underpants, watch Korean TVs, put American processors in Taiwan computers and enjoy a slight increase in world crude oil prices.

    And what to wear and what to use? Computers on "Elbrus" for an abnormally high amount of money? Thank you, let Putin buy these computers himself. And Chinese toys, boots and underpants - are they so cheap and are they everywhere, where is the Russian one? But the rise in oil prices is not worth rejoicing, even if the oil prices are 50-90 dollars (2005-2009), the dollar exchange rate will never be 28-31 rubles per dollar, as in those years. Oil in 2004 cost 38 dollars, the dollar rate was then about 28 rubles. Oil now costs almost the same, but for some reason the dollar is 70 rubles. So it was not for this that Putin collapsed the ruble in December 2014, in order to strengthen it again later - this is all the reckoning for Putin's economy when the collapse of what is left continues.
    Well, on the other hand, a person is only 16 years old in power, he must be given, finally, time to get comfortable and understand everything.
    1. +1
      15 March 2016 09: 38
      Computers on "Elbrus" for an abnormally high amount of money?


      I will disappoint you, but modern Elbrus processors are made on the Taiwanese TSMC and thus are not very domestic. We kind of tried to start making Elbrus at 130nm, but something inaudible to the news.
      1. 0
        15 March 2016 11: 36
        Quote: rait
        We kind of tried to start making Elbrus at 130nm

        I remembered the "Tavolga" terminal with (attention) 54 cm. The scoreboard (!), It killed me :-) So the display was called :-)
    2. 0
      15 March 2016 12: 10
      Well, you compared - the 2004 budget and the 2016 budget - the difference in spending is very significant, so because of the lack of funds from exports and raised the value of the dollar - we need money now.
  38. +4
    15 March 2016 10: 15
    Meanwhile, in the country:

    Health workers are forced to sign a new labor agreement, which removes premiums for harmfulness, reduces additional leave from 21 days to 14. And these are only flowers ...
    1. +3
      15 March 2016 10: 19
      But who needs these medical workers? In medicine, the word rhyming with the word Europe already knows how many years, but all the same, and even especially no news on this subject, although it is strategically important.
      1. 0
        15 March 2016 12: 10
        Quote: rait
        In medicine, the word rhyming with the word Europe

        ... they give injections ... injections of drugs, into!
        ... and they take blood (they say that for tests) - then from Vienna! ... also in Europe ...
        (oh well, don’t be sad, shy ... we will break through ... somewhere! in extreme cases - to the next world without a queue ...)
    2. 0
      15 March 2016 12: 06
      Quote: guzik007
      Meanwhile, in the country:

      Health workers are forced to sign a new labor agreement, which removes premiums for harmfulness, reduces additional leave from 21 days to 14. And these are only flowers ...

      ... and increase the length of the working day by 1 hour ... (from January 1 of this year! The Ministry of Health issued such an opus "on the mountain" ...) ... (but they do not bring it "to the places" - scary .. .)
  39. +8
    15 March 2016 10: 34
    "The number of micro and small enterprises in 5 years has grown by 28%: from 1644,3 thousand in 2010 to 2103,8 thousand in 2014"
    "We have, on average, only 1000 (ten) small enterprises per 10 citizens, and in developed countries of Europe - at least 35."

    something does not go.
    2,1 million / 145 million * 1000 = 14,48 small enterprises per 1000
    not 10.
    this is the first.
    secondly, small enterprises are not the basis of the economy in industrialized countries.
    There are objective processes that cause the enlargement of enterprises.

    small business - the foundation of the economy is a liberal myth that has been alive since 90.
    read "Imperialism - the Highest Stage of Capitalism" by V.I. Lenin, there 100 years ago it was reasoned and clearly explained.
  40. +2
    15 March 2016 11: 34
    “... Operating systems cannot be made profitable by creating them specifically for Russia.” When asked that officials refer to the experience of the PRC, he replied: “Because there is a huge domestic market — ten times larger than ours.”

    That’s not the point, they don’t sell OSes in China, they took free Linux from the Chinese and use it on desktops and on phones - Android
    1. 0
      15 March 2016 12: 14
      Quote: sa-ag
      “... Operating systems cannot be made profitable by creating them specifically for Russia.” When asked that officials refer to the experience of the PRC, he replied: “Because there is a huge domestic market — ten times larger than ours.”

      That’s not the point, they don’t sell OSes in China, they took free Linux from the Chinese and use it on desktops and on phones - Android

      There were, like, OSes for the military-industrial complex in the Union, fundamentally different from Microsoft! why not revive and modernize? Are mathematicians dead? or faded into the "free world"? ...
      1. +1
        15 March 2016 12: 24
        The first and most important question: Why do we need our own operating systems? It takes a lot of effort and builds an OS from scratch, which is oh, how difficult. To modernize the OS of the times of the USSR is, I beg your pardon, necrophilia. Now there is the same open source Linux that you can check for "bookmarks" and build anything on its basis with significantly less investment.
  41. +2
    15 March 2016 11: 53
    Dear, all this is a "game" for the public, such meetings should be held every day and an economic policy should be worked out, and not in an emergency mode, not an economist, but three myths of our economy are visible not with an armed eye: 1 myth of the military-industrial complex to pull the country out is only partially valid, because how the business went to the military-industrial complex and are already privatizing profitable enterprises, it seems that it’s bad, but only your contribution is minimum, the rest of the state money and income and trade will again be controlled by a handful of people, 2 the myth of import substitution, you can write a lot here, but there’s nothing to do in projects, 3myth small business, the article describes well what it is, and this is a buy and sell, the introduction of today's economic policy is a failure in advance, but everyone from the president to an ordinary deputy knows the most interesting thing about it
  42. +3
    15 March 2016 11: 53
    Quote: Million
    yes, the government leads Putin’s nose, deceiving him constantly

    I beg you .... It seems that the tsar, as usual, is not in kugs (as Borodach says)! Either the tsar is not up to date, the boyars are deceiving him, then Comrade Stalin did not know anything, then the Secretary General has nothing to do with it !!! Do not talk nonsense, dear !!!!!!! If I, as the owner of the house, don’t know anything, then what kind of person am I on h.r.e. master?
  43. +1
    15 March 2016 11: 57
    Where, when, at what time in the world it was such that the authorities or the government that plunged the country into crisis, could bring this country out of the crisis, this was not the case. Only GDP still dreams that the government's "rotten eggs" will carry out its fantastic plans. Rotten eggs rot more and more every day, which proves their activity, as they say in the PEOPLE: "no skin, no face" means a complete lack of professionalism, stupidity and mediocrity bordering on criminal negligence, which they have now and previously demonstrated and conclusion, all this get-together for any innovations, transformations leading to sustainable growth and prosperity of the economy and the COUNTRIES are NOT ABLE. That's the whole answer.
  44. +1
    15 March 2016 11: 58
    Nay ..., excuse me, Nabiullina is the representative of the SGA in the "government" of the Russian Federation.
    So far, she and all the "young reformers" are confused by them, and so-called. "government" will be zero.
  45. 0
    15 March 2016 12: 07
    KMK, the issue of money for project financing will be ineffective due to the erosion of the responsibility of this "project project". We need personal responsibility for the funds issued. And there is a proven method - surety of two persons, including legal ones, who have been working for at least 3 years in the market. Or a certain status of the recipient of funds is needed, in which the surety will become unnecessary, for example, the title or the presence of a patent for the project. Money should be issued only under personal responsibility, in practice - under the name, the honor of which should be capitalized.
    1. 0
      15 March 2016 17: 00
      You can allocate money in parts in accordance with the approved schedule, and at first - in small parts and only as the conditions of the previous stage are met. This will discipline the recipient.
      A condition for obtaining a loan may, for example, be a demonstration of the credit history or the amount on the account, depending on which the maximum loan size will depend: a significant amount cannot accumulate on the account. Like, you demonstrate the excess of available funds over liabilities per million - you can apply for a loan of up to 100 million, but in parts and with conditions.
  46. +2
    15 March 2016 12: 07
    What kind of import substitution? Who will work in industry and agriculture? In the country for 25 years, the vocational education system has been completely ruined. It is impossible to find a qualified worker. The quality of higher education is "below the plinth." Some students no longer know Pushkin and cannot name a satellite of the Earth. But they wander in search of work, a bunch of lawyers-economists-managers are completely useless people, but with enormous ambitions. Where are the cool engineers, agronomists, technologists? Who will promote the country's science and culture? People go to Moscow to be hired as security guards. The bulk of the so-called "small enterprises "are engaged in banal resale, or, more simply, in speculation, if not ordinary fraud. On TV there are continuous idiotic shows, it is not clear for whom targeted, or glamorous serials. Against this background, the so-called" economic "block of the government gathers and decides something What are they taking people for fools? Yes, it's just laughter: a natural liberpine shobla. Personally, my only hope is onPutin and Glazyev, there is no one else to hope for.
    1. 0
      15 March 2016 13: 27
      Quote: Sirius
      I personally have the only hope - for Putin and Glazyev - there is no one to hope for more.

      Putin is clearly superfluous here.
      1. 0
        15 March 2016 14: 00
        What, is there another candidate?
        1. +1
          15 March 2016 15: 09
          Quote: Sirius
          What, is there another candidate?

          A holy place is never empty.
          And hoping for a person who has been steering the country for 16 years and taxied it to the full (deleted by the moderator) is stupid.
  47. +1
    15 March 2016 12: 35
    Ulyukaev - for, Nabiullina - against, but where is the main person responsible for the economy? Everything in his afon does not play enough, hiding all the time for Vovchik.
    1. +2
      15 March 2016 13: 27
      Quote: Che for
      Everything in his afon does not play enough, hiding all the time for Vovchik.

      Sleeping. laughing
  48. +2
    15 March 2016 12: 50
    A handful of stupid people who do not understand anything in the REAL economy of capitalism have gathered, and they trump each other with beautiful words. And he has already declared an economic WAR abruptly than against the Soviet Union. And what can they oppose this? The economy is ruined. Still breathing factories are run by bummers or thieves who can do nothing but talk or steal. In finance, this is generally a nightmare. They can’t print enough money for the economy ... they can’t! And if they print it, they’ll be caught right away like blind kittens by inflation, thanks to the fifth column in the banking and information sphere. Well, they can’t manage the state. They can’t, they don’t know how, they don’t want to study ... for 25 years, at least some basics could be understood ... they don’t understand anything ... and they talk like capercaillie at their meetings ...
    1. +1
      15 March 2016 13: 54
      and therefore, we need a Stalin-type MOBILIZATION economy based on DOMESTIC sources of growth and forced REINDUSTRIALIZATION, and V.V. Putin clings to everything (judging by official media) for a liberal monetary project — he listens at night to the monetar tales of Gaidar, Kudrin, Gref, Ulyukaeva, Nabiuli and Nabiuli, .

      Otherwise, I would fire them all on ... x
  49. +1
    15 March 2016 13: 01
    Over the past 25 years of occupation by the liberals, Russia has become a plundered, pitiful and despised by all gas station of PJSC "RF" - a raw material colony of the EU and the PRC.

    87% of Russian exports are RAW - oil, gas, timber (round timber) and metals.

    For the past 25 years, the mercenaries of the West have been liberals: Yeltsins, Kudrins, Grefs, Chubais, Shuvalovs, Siluanovs, Kasyanovs and oligarchs - Rotenbergs, Timchens, etc., under the auspices of Vladimir Putin, rob, solder and destroy Russia, killing the once powerful industry of the USSR , predatory exporting all the resources and money of the RF Stabilization Funds to the West, they are investing all the budget revenues of the Russian Federation in the economy of the ENEMY - in US government bonds!

    THE FISH ROTS FROM THE HEAD - WHO SHOULD APPOINT ALL THESE LIBERALS TO THE RUSSIAN GOVERNMENT ?!

    The liberal government of the Russian Federation - in fact, the colonial administration of the United States in the Russian Federation allocated according to the state program for mechanical engineering of the Russian Federation .... crumbs of 20 billion rubles and at the same time invested more than 81 billion $ in the US economy (government bonds)! A beggar at the Kazansky railway station in Moscow will receive much more per day than these "appropriations" for mechanical engineering!

    The greatest in the entire 1000 - year history of Russia, its Leader and Teacher, who made the USSR in just 12 pre - war years (1928 - 1940) the second largest industrial superpower in the world by GDP, JV Stalin said: "TO TRADE IN RESOURCES IS TO TRADE IN THE HOMELAND!"

    The main method of regulating the economy of the Blessed One in the centuries of JV Stalin is to stimulate the consumer demand of the population for domestic goods!

    This is the complete opposite of the liberal economic policy of "targeting inflation" with the excessively high refinancing rate of the Central Bank of the Russian Federation - the Gaidar policy of Kudrin, Medvedev, and the downshifter Gref.



    After 25 years of liberal genocide of the Russian people by poverty, boundless corruption, impunity for embezzlement, unemployment, AIDS, Western debauchery, Russian people are waiting for the Second Coming of the Holy and Blessed Ages of Joseph Stalin more than the Jews of Mashiach!

    Today in Russia there is no, as such, the BASIS of industry and economic sovereignty - the modern machine-building and electronic industries, without which Russia is doomed to eke out the miserable existence of a liberal raw materials appendage of the USA, EU and China.
    1. +1
      15 March 2016 13: 03
      urgently needed:

      1) urgently dismiss the mediocre and infantile D. A. Medvedev from the post of Chairman of the Government of the Russian Federation and dismiss all ministers - liberals of the financial and economic bloc of the Government of the Russian Federation. appoint S. Yu. Glazyev as Prime Minister

      2) to restore five-year planning for the public sector of the Russian economy, to transform the Ministry of Economic Development of the Russian Federation into the Ministry of Economic Planning and Development of the Russian Federation, inviting specialists from the USSR State Planning Commission as consultants.

      3) to nationalize the oil and gas industry, the Ministry of Finance of the Russian Federation and the Central Bank of the Russian Federation, having transformed the Central Bank of the Russian Federation into the State Bank of Russia - a structural unit of the Ministry of Finance of the Russian Federation.

      4) to restore the effect on the territory of the Russian Federation of the Decree of the Council of Ministers of the USSR of February 28, 1950 on the gold content of the Russian ruble.

      5) annually allocate at least 500 billion rubles from the budget for the development of machine-tool and electronic industries of the Russian Federation

      6) annually purchase as many machine tools for the public sector of the RF industry as the PRC imports every year!

      7) to set the task for the new composition of the Government of the Russian Federation - by 2025, Russia should produce from 100% of domestic components and export as many modern machine tools and equipment as they are manufactured and exported by the PRC today and establish personal control of the President of the Russian Federation for the implementation of this national task!

      STALIN WITH US!
      1. +2
        15 March 2016 13: 42
        Could 2+ would put))) And let them consider a communist)))
      2. +2
        15 March 2016 15: 20
        I forgot to add to lower the interest rate, although with the nationalization of the Central Bank it will happen almost automatically ...
        1. +1
          15 March 2016 17: 03
          "Reducing the discount rate" and raising inflation by this is a brilliant decision.
      3. 0
        15 March 2016 17: 23
        1 - will be released in 2018. 2 - in the current conditions, economic planning, even for a three-year period is impossible, in the end they returned to one year. 3 - how do you imagine this nationalization in the current realities? 4 - you need to have 100 times more gold than we have now. 5 - a good idea, only at the expense of what means? 6 - in 5 years we will reach this level - we have 56 machine-tool plants - they don’t sit idle, most likely by 2025 there will be a production of machines for 90 - 100 percent of domestic components.
  50. 0
    15 March 2016 17: 43
    Quote: rait
    For how many years did the same USSR become an awl in one place with western (and not only) countries? How many years has reduced the backlog? And for how many years has Petrovsky Russia cut a window into Europe?

    you brother forgot one weight, namely: Tsar Peter, who was especially stealing, hung up on the market square, and the Soviet Union under I.V. is still persuaded as the country of the victorious bloody dictator ...
  51. +1
    15 March 2016 17: 54
    Russian President Vladimir Putin said people approve of repressive measures used by Interior Ministry officials

    Verily! This is some kind of holiday! We will only think - and HE will utter, and how - in granite!
    white turf for this!

    Guard bayonets, we are in the Kremlin Hall
    Referee's table, steel prosecutorial phrases
    So, how many grants have you got here,
    To sell the motherland again?

    And the anger in my eyes flashed and went out
    And the defendants do not look into the hall.
    "Yes, we mixed glass into oil!"
    "Yes, I ordered to kill Lesin!"

    "I took money for espionage at the State Department,"
    Terror, sabotage, treason, poison!
    They sit like caught animals
    They take turns saying:

    Chubais, Albats, Sobchak, Bulk.
    And now human features melt away -
    Monstrous, diabolical Hari
    You involuntarily see you
  52. 0
    15 March 2016 18: 01
    All these meetings are nonsense. No one was there, all this is speculation. The root cause of all our troubles has not been determined. This is the occupation constitution of 1993. The Central Bank is not subordinate to anyone except the Fed and the IMF. YOU want what they say in Odessa. Well, at least they gathered them into a bunch and forced them to discuss something.
  53. +1
    15 March 2016 18: 16
    http://m.forbes.ru/article.php?id=314963 - интересная статья, касательно автоВАЗа, суть не в самой статье а вот этот кусочек оттуда :
    “In other words, foreign investors and managers should understand that the purpose of economic activity in Russia is not the production of goods and services and not making a profit in conditions of market competition, but the non-market appropriation of public and private resources (purists call it theft), during which those same goods are produced as a side activity.And then they would see that a huge automobile plant may not be a spherical market agent in a vacuum, but a giant feeding trough, the main purpose of which is to feed supply chains, managers, regional and federal officials with affiliated firms, relatives and clienteles, "friends and acquaintances of the rabbit."
    This happens in almost any state-funded plant, a lot of suckers.
  54. 0
    15 March 2016 20: 27
    Looking at this whole carnival, a persistent state of cognitive dissonance arises: Medvedev is the Prime Minister, Ulyukaev is the Ministry of Economic Development (what the hell is development?)...
  55. 0
    15 March 2016 21: 07
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  56. 0
    15 March 2016 22: 28
    There is nothing to do with a candle and a torch in the 21st century! EE production (generation) in China and India over 10 years
    (in the Russian Federation, Chubais’s electrical reforms) increased by 2 times, 5300 and 2300 billion kWh, respectively, and in our country by only 169 billion, while the depreciation of fixed assets increased from 46% to 51%, the capitalization of companies decreased by 4 (!) times from 1 ruble to 25 kopecks, investments are zero?! Rosatom will become unprofitable in 2016, uranium production has negative profitability and a drop in production by 8%, unlike Kazakhstan, where growth is the same 8% and profitability is almost 42% ! And now which of you will say - How long does it take to get permission to connect electrical networks to a small or medium (?) enterprise? From three months to a year! Plus or minus - the power limit is no more than 6 kW? That is, a kettle, computer, refrigerator, TV and everything - the limit has been exhausted! Where have you seen. In a store or laundry, only one refrigerator or washing machine works? After all, a small business is not an apartment? Electrical capacity is needed for some production, freezing of energy and electricity tariffs, antimonopoly in network and electricity supply campaigns? Where is all this, just empty words and promises - and LIFE is darkness, or rather twilight?
  57. -1
    16 March 2016 09: 46
    I have no complaints against Nabiulina (she does everything right, she has doubts and expresses them, she should save them), I have complaints against Ulyukaev (he must spend wisely). It is necessary to provide a clear plan without a hitch, which cannot be faulted. In addition there is a template. The first five-year plan. wink laughing
  58. 0
    18 March 2016 04: 17
    I have no complaints about Nabiulina (she does everything right, she has doubts and expresses them, she should keep them),

    Only she’s doing something like the American way, the Fed way....If everything is correct, why is there a negative interest rate on loans in Europe, and here we have as much as 11%.....And who is Nabiullina feeding?
  59. 0
    18 March 2016 09: 17
    I think that Elvira is doing the right thing. Everything must be calculated, otherwise the money will again be distributed to various banks and all sorts of nanochubais.