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Ural Utilization is estimated at 1 billion rubles

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Rosatom again announced a competition for the disposal of the largest reconnaissance ship “Ural”, offering 1 billion rubles for the assignment, reports Rossiyskaya Gazeta with a link to the resource Flot.com.




To carry out the previous similar application of the corporation, published in 2014 g, there were no more volunteers.

"Launched in 1983, the Urals (1941 project" Titan ", according to NATO classification Kapusta) - the largest ship in the Russian naval navy“It’s 10 meters longer than the Peter the Great heavy nuclear missile cruiser,” the publication explains, noting that the ship’s weight and size characteristics frighten off potential performers.

The disposal of the "Ural" can not cope, including, and the Far Eastern plant "Zvezda", where the decommissioned giant was transferred for cutting.

“According to the technical task, the potential winner of the competition will be together with the“ Ural ”in a practically hopeless situation. The Far Eastern plant Zvezda, where the ship began to be dismantled, is not able to lift it to the slipway - the weight and dimensions of the Ural exceed the capacity of the shipyard. At the same time, it will not be possible to take him to another company, since the dismantling of hull structures and equipment already carried out "negatively affects the safety of towing the ship by sea", the resource writes.

Rosatom offered to participate in the preparation for towing the project developer’s ship - Iceberg Central Design Bureau. However, this option is not the solution.

"In the Pacific region of Russia, there are no cranes with a lifting capacity of more than 1500 tons, as a result of which the ship of the 1941 project ship is not unloaded for assembling assemblies of nuclear steam generating plants (the propulsion unit weighs 3500 tons)," the technical specification says.

Radioactive equipment will have to cut out of the hull of the vessel, and in parts pack in protective kits.

"Similar work in the Pacific region has not previously been done, the disposal of a surface ship with a nuclear power plant is carried out for the first time," the document says.

Now it becomes clear why there are still no people willing to do this work.

Resource Help: “The large nuclear reconnaissance ship“ Ural ”, which was the largest surface ship in the USSR and Russia with a nuclear power plant, was decommissioned in the 2002 year. In 2008, it was handed over to the civilian crew of the Zvezda plant for recycling, which began in the same year with an estimated completion period of two years. However, due to the optimization of the federal budget in 2009 and the reduction of allocations, work on its utilization was stopped, with the exception of work on unloading spent nuclear fuel. In November-December 2009, the SNF from the ship’s reactors was unloaded and removed for reprocessing. In May, Rosatom 2014 of the Year announced the first tender for ship recycling. ”

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  1. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 25 February 2016 15: 28 New
    10
    This is a brontosaurus! Secret is strong. Never heard of him before.
    1. Samaritan
      Samaritan 25 February 2016 15: 33 New
      15
      Well then how ??? Wrote on all military resources repeatedly! There is no High Technologies on it, all the secret has been removed, the rest was destroyed by 2 fires! For a long time was instead of a hostel ...
      would sell to China under the next museum!
      1. PHANTOM-AS
        PHANTOM-AS 25 February 2016 15: 42 New
        95
        So we have survived to a time when we can’t not only build such giants, but we’re not even able to carve.
        Modernized to the handle ...
        1. Thrall
          Thrall 25 February 2016 15: 49 New
          +6
          NATO classification Kapusta

          So there was Kapustis-72 smile
          1. Rostov Papa
            Rostov Papa 25 February 2016 16: 38 New
            +9
            because there is a reactor !!!
            Ha! I also have a problem, I even know a country in which this ship will be torn into a light for free, regardless of any radiation. By the way, in this wonderful country in the exclusion zone, not a single piece of iron was left, everyone was in the scrap metal.
            1. nerd.su
              nerd.su 25 February 2016 17: 11 New
              +4
              Quote: Rostov Dad
              Ha! I also have a problem, I even know a country in which this ship is torn for free

              Yes, while he swims to that country, his Chinese ants will cleanly clean him ...
      2. Zaslavsky-S
        Zaslavsky-S 25 February 2016 15: 52 New
        28
        smile Scrapers would give, and everything. Those would have coped. I myself am cutting scrap 17 for years. But they need to cut 1 billion
        1. Michael67
          Michael67 25 February 2016 16: 06 New
          27
          Catch a hunchback marked man and fill his forehead with a suit "I am guilty of the collapse of the GREAT POWER. I am guilty of writing off SSV-33" Ural ".
          1. Samaritan
            Samaritan 25 February 2016 16: 53 New
            +2
            Quote: Michael67
            Catch a hunchback marked man and fill his forehead with a suit "I am guilty of the collapse of the GREAT POWER. I am guilty of writing off SSV-33" Ural ".
            This .... managed to play a damn thing, even without going aboard: In the XX NUMX, the Ural was visited by the General Secretary of the CPSU Central Committee, later the first and last President of the USSR Mikhail Gorbachev. For him, a part of the superstructure was specially cut off and a ladder was set up, so that it was convenient to climb the third tier. But all this turned out to be in vain: the secretary general never climbed the ship.
            1. Captain45
              Captain45 25 February 2016 20: 06 New
              +5
              Quote: Samaritan
              This .... managed to play a damn thing, even without going aboard: In the XX NUMX, the Ural was visited by the General Secretary of the CPSU Central Committee, later the first and last President of the USSR Mikhail Gorbachev. For him, a part of the superstructure was specially cut off and a ladder was set up, so that it was convenient to climb the third tier. But all this turned out to be in vain: the secretary general never climbed the ship.

              P.A.D.L.A !!!!! am
            2. navispi
              navispi 25 February 2016 22: 16 New
              +1
              And the crew at that time in a cordon at the Baltic factory stood
          2. cherkas.oe
            cherkas.oe 25 February 2016 20: 10 New
            +2
            Quote: Michael67
            Catch a humpback tagged and fill his forehead with a suit

            Today, KP gave this goat interview, complained that all subsequent leaders of Russia, including his friend Boris, spoiled the perestroika that he had begun and drove Russia into crisis. I almost drove into a pole when I heard this pearl.
        2. Gray brother
          Gray brother 25 February 2016 16: 11 New
          12
          Quote: Zaslavsky-S
          Scrapers would give, and everything. Those would have coped. I myself am cutting scrap 17 for years. But they need to cut 1 billion

          There is one place in Bangladesh, but there the truth ships are being thrown ashore on their own.
        3. swan
          swan 25 February 2016 16: 15 New
          +2
          And how are you going to cut the main "trough" in the water?
          They do not need to cut off the tidbits with meta color and throw the skeleton in the middle of the bay. They need to be disposed of. all
        4. PN
          PN 25 February 2016 17: 48 New
          +1
          Yeah, scrap metal workers ... And what will metal scrapers do with the reactor and infected machines ??? There is a stumbling block in radiation, not in size.
    2. SPACE59
      SPACE59 25 February 2016 15: 35 New
      +1
      He stood his whole service, there was only one transition from the factory to the Northern Fleet.
      If I don’t confuse anything.
      1. Pravdarm
        Pravdarm 25 February 2016 15: 48 New
        0
        Can any of the specialists explain why and why this huge thing was built then? If it was almost never used and generally no longer needed? recourse
        1. Samaritan
          Samaritan 25 February 2016 16: 08 New
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          The ship controlled the northern part of the Pacific Ocean, intercepting radio communications in the networks of the Navy, Air Force and PLO of the United States and Japan. The basis of the ship’s electronic equipment is the Coral reconnaissance complex, including the Elbrus-type supercomputers and several EC-1046 computers. camera with a lens 1.5.
          Due to its unique design, the Ural is the only three-masted warship in the world!
          And of course this:
          1. killganoff
            killganoff 25 February 2016 19: 29 New
            0
            And what is this antenna device ?!
        2. Alexey RA
          Alexey RA 25 February 2016 16: 16 New
          10
          Quote: Pravdarm
          Can any of the specialists explain why and why this huge thing was built then? If it was almost never used and generally no longer needed?

          It's simple. SSV-33 "Ural" was built for the Soviet Navy during the Gorshkov era. And, according to the sad tradition, they handed it over to the navy unfinished.
          And he had to serve already in the Navy of the USSR at the end of perestroika - when there was no money to finish the unique ship, nor qualified l / s.
          The problems began after, in accordance with the decision of the Supreme Soviet of the USSR to exempt former students from military service, almost all highly trained junior conscripts were transferred to the reserve. This affected the general preparedness and competence of the crew.

          Finally, the ship was finished off by the collapse of the USSR, after which the command of the Pacific Fleet was concerned, mainly, with the sale of its own fleet.

          PS The story of the dismissal of specialists in the Ural is painfully reminiscent of the history of the Varyag - on it, too, in 1903, they fired specialists from the engine crew who had served on the cruiser since the time the ship was taken over from Kramp. And they were replaced by the capricious boilers of Niklossa "green" team, which was trained on ancient training ships already with fire tube boilers. Moreover, this dismissal hit not only "Varyag", but also on EBR 1 TOE.
          The ICH, then an officer who suggested that grandfathers be detained in the service, increasing their content - so that they would train replenishment - received an official reprimand from the Minister of the Sea for an offer leading to unnecessary cost overruns.
          1. gjv
            gjv 25 February 2016 16: 34 New
            +8
            Quote: Alexey RA
            SSV-33 "Ural" was built for the Soviet Navy


            Chest sign
            1. Captain45
              Captain45 25 February 2016 20: 10 New
              0
              Quote: gjv
              Chest sign

              Have it personally? Then soldier Respect hi drinks
              1. navispi
                navispi 25 February 2016 22: 22 New
                0
                There were several options-- this is one of the first
            2. Kassik
              Kassik 28 February 2016 01: 09 New
              0
              friend's gift -
        3. 222222
          222222 25 February 2016 17: 07 New
          0
          Pravdarm (1) SU Today, 15: 48 ↑ New
          Maybe to. "...
          ... in those distant years, the US began work on the creation of a "safeguard" missile defense system. tests were carried out at the missile range of the Kwajalein Atoll Marshall Islands .. anti-missile systems "Spartan" and "Sprint! and radar MSR and PAR .. launches of ICBMs" minuteman " from the western missile range avb vanderberg cali - fornia usa .... then the "safeguard" system was modernized and a new one was developed and tested ..
          To keep track of these landfills. Probably. URAL was made.
        4. Bayonet
          Bayonet 26 February 2016 05: 36 New
          0
          Quote: Pravdarm
          why so and why was this giant built?

          During the Cold War, the USSR faced an urgent need to control the potential launches of ballistic missiles from anywhere in the world. It was not possible to solve this problem by ground means, the USSR simply did not have military bases in many parts of the world. In turn, the ships of the Marine Space Fleet (“Cosmonaut Yuri Gagarin” and others, see the articles “History of the Marine Space Fleet” and “The Last Flight of Yuri Gagarin”) did not have active radars and were intended to work on the “defendants” of domestic spacecraft .
          Thus, it was decided to create a special combat ship, which would allow to control any subcosmic object on any segment of its trajectory.
      2. kote119
        kote119 25 February 2016 15: 55 New
        0
        switched to Pacific Fleet
      3. avt
        avt 25 February 2016 16: 05 New
        +1
        Quote: KOSMOS59
        He stood his whole service, there was only one transition from the factory to the Northern Fleet.

        wassat How is he then
        Quote: kote119
        switched to Pacific Fleet

        Quote: KOSMOS59
        If I don’t confuse anything.

        One of the two, in the sense of the second, as in the poetry of the times of the USSR - “Vanya rode to the Urals, He got to California. This is the absent-minded grandson of Sarah Moiseevna. "
      4. spravochnik
        spravochnik 25 February 2016 16: 38 New
        +1
        Quote: KOSMOS59
        He stood his whole service, there was only one transition from the factory to the Northern Fleet.
        If I don’t confuse anything.

        Confused. He switched to the Pacific Fleet. He stayed there.
      5. navispi
        navispi 25 February 2016 22: 17 New
        0
        Confused! Pacific Fleet!
    3. Starover_Z
      Starover_Z 25 February 2016 15: 42 New
      +1
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      This is a brontosaurus! Secret is strong.

      All secrets were cut out of it, boilers and racks with decommissioned equipment and many kilometers of cables remained.
      One thing is bad that during the years of the rise of Russia, a shipyard is still not ready for the construction and maintenance of such giants:
      "Launched in 1983, the Ural (Project 1941 Titan, according to NATO classification Kapusta) is the largest ship in the Russian navy, 10 meters longer than the Peter the Great nuclear-powered missile cruiser."

      It's just a shame ...
    4. barsuk
      barsuk 25 February 2016 15: 53 New
      0
      That is why it simply cannot be stranded and left to die.
      1. Engineer
        Engineer 25 February 2016 16: 08 New
        +2
        because there is a reactor !!!
    5. Finches
      Finches 25 February 2016 16: 23 New
      10
      It’s necessary to charge the disposal - Rossnano - these guys, under the leadership of a brilliant, red-headed manager, will even cut the planet! You can trust Serdyukov - the same specialist in waste ..., reform from God! laughing
  2. Lanista
    Lanista 25 February 2016 15: 29 New
    40
    Joke.
    A tender was announced for painting an ocean liner in Odessa. The tender was won by Rabinovich, who offered 50% of the minimum price; immediately after the signing of the contract, he started to work. When the deadline for delivery came, Rabinovich showed the ship - painted only from the starboard side. The port side remained unpainted. Rabinovich was presented with a claim - they say that the terms of the contract were not met; however, Rabinovich won the trial. In court, he showed the same contract in which it was written in black and white: "We, the Odessa Shipping Company, on the one hand, and IM Rabinovich, on the other hand ..."
    1. serg2108
      serg2108 29 February 2016 00: 22 New
      0
      a joke is a good plus set laughing
  3. DMB_95
    DMB_95 25 February 2016 15: 32 New
    +8
    Is it really necessary to cut such a ship "on pins and needles"? Are repairs and modernization impossible?
    1. owl
      owl 25 February 2016 15: 52 New
      +4
      Quote: DMB_95
      Is repair and modernization impossible?

      The question immediately arises for what ?? It is not painful to admit, but in this under-state there is no place for majestic giants!
      1. yuriy55
        yuriy55 25 February 2016 16: 03 New
        +9
        Interesting data from Wiki:

        BARZK Ural - one of the rare ships saved from the dominance of rats.The work of the reconnaissance complex of the ship was detrimental to rodents.


        As soon as they wrote it off, the "rats" got it ... crying
        1. navispi
          navispi 25 February 2016 22: 26 New
          0
          But there were a lot of cockroaches!
      2. Gray brother
        Gray brother 25 February 2016 16: 44 New
        +2
        Quote: gufo
        The question immediately arises for what?

        A floating nuclear power plant ... maybe ... in the north somewhere.
    2. demchuk.ig
      demchuk.ig 25 February 2016 16: 19 New
      0
      Quote: DMB_95
      Is it really necessary to cut such a ship "on pins and needles"? Are repairs and modernization impossible?

      I think that now we have neither the strength nor the means to operate it, as well as substrates pr.941.
    3. Rostovchanin
      Rostovchanin 25 February 2016 16: 33 New
      +5
      I exaggerate of course, but you do not upgrade the old penny endlessly. Everything has its own service life, and over time, devices tend to wear out not only physically, but also mentally. Compare the tube TV and those that are now in stores ...
      The same thing with military equipment, why keep such a giant when all the same functions can be shoved into the ship three sizes smaller (maybe the functions will be cooler).
      Here everything is decided by the ratio of costs and expediency of use
      1. spravochnik
        spravochnik 25 February 2016 16: 45 New
        +3
        The most interesting thing is that at the time the GRU required the construction of a second ship of this type. And only because of his unique intelligence capabilities.
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    5. clidon
      clidon 25 February 2016 22: 27 New
      -2
      He is rotten for a long time with this "way of life." If the much stronger "Lazarev" will face the same fate.
      However, it would take a lot of money to restore it. And now is the wrong "financial" period ...
      1. serg2108
        serg2108 29 February 2016 00: 27 New
        0
        money is necessary to shoot thieves more often!
    6. serg2108
      serg2108 29 February 2016 00: 25 New
      0
      here I am asking the same question and most of the readers are the same, .. to preserve the ship and upgrade it into a new type of ships called the battleship "Ural", a couple of hundred cruise missiles can be stuck into it with air defense systems; do! ... when good times come and there are no liberoids in power am
  4. Vladimirets
    Vladimirets 25 February 2016 15: 32 New
    +4
    D. the competitiveness of state competitions in action: when the necessary and necessary things cannot be done, but you can still steal.
  5. Dimontius
    Dimontius 25 February 2016 15: 33 New
    +5
    the ship looks like a big sturgeon laughing and so sorry of course ... what resources have been spent and another + billion recourse
  6. Great-grandfather of Zeus
    Great-grandfather of Zeus 25 February 2016 15: 33 New
    10
    Well, well, don't build! Likewise, the "eagles" on needles will be allowed! The destroyers are laid up - we will fight, if anything, on pies and kayaks. ..
    1. Great-grandfather of Zeus
      Great-grandfather of Zeus 25 February 2016 15: 39 New
      +2
      I so understood on minuses - the morons really don’t like it? ??
  7. Dimon19661
    Dimon19661 25 February 2016 15: 34 New
    16
    My former order. There were three guns for each (2 pcs) MP-123-01, two AK-630 and one AK-176. Of course, the ship was unique, but it didn’t work. At first, the fire on completion, transition at KTOF, several years on the barrel, and eternal parking on the 7th pier (((
    1. Boos
      Boos 25 February 2016 15: 46 New
      +3
      Brainless, spend a lard on the disposal of what can be towed away and open the kingstones ... Although it will be so, but a billion are stealed.
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      2. Alexey RA
        Alexey RA 25 February 2016 16: 24 New
        +8
        Quote: Boos
        Mindless, spend a lard on the disposal of what can be towed away and open the kingstones ...

        Immediately visible business man. Flooding a ship with two nuclear reactors on board is a worthy decision affective manager the highest standard.

        You, most importantly, then do not be surprised if someone suggests disposing of the expired power unit of a nuclear power plant in your region by dismantling it by migrant workers with the subsequent sale of the reactor vessel and primary pipes to everyone. Well, what a saving on disposal ...
        1. Boos
          Boos 25 February 2016 17: 33 New
          +2
          Read the article carefully, it says that there is no fuel there. Although if this is the principled position of the "green", I understand you. But I did not offer to drown it off our shores.)))
          1. Alexey RA
            Alexey RA 25 February 2016 19: 13 New
            +1
            Quote: Boos
            Read the article carefully, it says that there is no fuel there.

            That is, after unloading the nuclear fuel, the reactor immediately becomes clean? And apparently the green ones invented the induced radioactivity? smile

            Look at the nuclear submarine dismantlement methodology - there, even after unloading the spent nuclear fuel with the reactor compartment, they work long and carefully ... they work for subsequent long-term storage. And only after the induced radiation has fallen to safe values, the stored reactor compartments will have to be disassembled. And before that, it is necessary to cut out 3 compartments, tow for cutting, remove excess, process, tow to the temporary storage area afloat, equip a long-term storage area on the shore, cut the end compartments, pull out the reactor compartment to this site, fix and provide storage conditions for 70-100 years old.
    2. navispi
      navispi 25 February 2016 22: 42 New
      0
      And why are you so attached to the fire? After all, nothing burned !!! It was scary - the ship was in the dry dock, there was no water in the fire lines! And the city fire engines in a little Kronstadt - not many, almost all arrived! the day before they brought the whole ship to ALL, and unloaded there, but didn’t have time to demolish them, so they blazed!
  8. Primus pilus
    Primus pilus 25 February 2016 15: 41 New
    +5
    And he did not even develop his own resource.
  9. exo
    exo 25 February 2016 15: 41 New
    +5
    I saw him, during the construction process. A beautiful steamboat. It is a pity, his fate did not work out
  10. kote119
    kote119 25 February 2016 15: 41 New
    +5
    he has long been very funny, previously in Fokino, slowly plundered, then burned. The ship makes an indelible impression on its size and size.
  11. A-Sim
    A-Sim 25 February 2016 15: 47 New
    15
    sad from the greatness of the departed titans and the bustle of dwarf rogues.
    1. yuriy55
      yuriy55 25 February 2016 15: 56 New
      12
      It is even sadder when the fate of the giants is decided by these same dwarf rogues ...
      I am firmly convinced that the phrase is "neither sing nor draw !!!" it's about our government and ministries. Here's the catch - there are no cranes ... Here's the catch - there are no crane operators either ... what
      Some ministries with ministers ... I suppose they are sitting in offices, racking their brains over how to "correctly" use 1 so that a brigade of workers would dispose of a ship for 000? request
      1. PHANTOM-AS
        PHANTOM-AS 25 February 2016 16: 05 New
        +5
        Quote: yuriy55
        That’s a snag - there are no cranes ... But there’s a snag - there are no crane operators either ...

        And you imagine that even now we are not able to build a ferry.
        In order to establish a message in the Crimea, Greek ferries bought, built in the early nineties.
      2. Vadim237
        Vadim237 25 February 2016 16: 14 New
        +2
        You do not forget that in the Urals, nuclear reactors still need to be disposed of.
        1. owl
          owl 25 February 2016 16: 43 New
          +1
          Quote: Vadim237
          You do not forget that in the Urals, nuclear reactors still need to be disposed of.

          The main thing that you do not forget smile that reactors are nobody and never while not utilized in the literal sense of the word, they unload fuel, cut out reactor compartments (of course together with reactors) that put on prolonged "storage"! So, the reactor compartments are most likely removed a long time ago!
          1. Alexey RA
            Alexey RA 25 February 2016 19: 27 New
            +1
            Quote: gufo
            So, the reactor compartments most likely have long been removed!

            We read the article:
            "In the Pacific region of Russia, there are no cranes with a lifting capacity of more than 1500 tons, as a result of which the ship of the 1941 project ship is not unloaded for assembling assemblies of nuclear steam generating plants (the propulsion unit weighs 3500 tons)," the technical specification says.

            That is, SNF has already been unloaded. But the blocks themselves cannot unload - nothing.
            And most importantly, after unloading, these blocks will need to be somehow delivered to the long-term storage site.

            PMSM, if the issue is not resolved with the cranes, then in the end they can act like a nuclear submarine: they cut the compartment from the automatic control system and put it to stand afloat - for the time the shore platform equipment is installed - and then it is pulled ashore and cut off the excess.

            There was an even simpler version, tested in 1967 on the ALED "Lenin" - but the ecologists will devour us for it. Now no one will allow the reactor to be buried at sea by dropping it together with a part of the hull directly from the ship afloat (the divers made a cut in the bottom, then cut the hull structures, and the last holding structures were interrupted by shaped charges).
            1. Captain45
              Captain45 25 February 2016 20: 19 New
              0
              Quote: Alexey RA
              There was an even simpler version, tested in 1967 on the ALED "Lenin" - but the ecologists will devour us for it. Now no one will allow the reactor to be buried at sea by dropping it together with a part of the hull directly from the ship afloat (the divers made a cut in the bottom, then cut the hull structures, and the last holding structures were interrupted by shaped charges).

              +. did not know about it. But what is it, Mikhalych !! laughing
  12. Nikolay71
    Nikolay71 25 February 2016 15: 48 New
    +5
    Yes, the situation. "Zvezda" cannot cope and cannot be taken anywhere. Was it not destiny to think in advance?
    1. demchuk.ig
      demchuk.ig 25 February 2016 16: 23 New
      +2
      Quote: Nikolay71
      Yes, the situation. "Zvezda" cannot cope and cannot be taken anywhere. Was it not destiny to think in advance?

      Who thinks in advance of what? Problems are solved as they become available and mostly mediocre!
  13. max702
    max702 25 February 2016 15: 48 New
    +9
    But they ruined it because of the lack of infrastructure .. Billions were found on the boat, but they couldn’t manage the berth with electricity .. The trouble with this, it didn’t reach that the equipment was not a soldier who must endure hardships and hardships ..
  14. lexx2038
    lexx2038 25 February 2016 15: 51 New
    +3
    And from it it is impossible to build any kind of transport, "trough" he has how spacious, otherwise they bought all the trash from the Turks to provide ours in Syria. And if atomic-powered, then in general you can carry it cheaply. As I understand it, we are no longer able to build a trough of this size, since we cannot make out this one. Personally, it seems to me that this is not all about it. Remnants of Soviet power. Sorry.
  15. Ivan Ivanovich
    Ivan Ivanovich 25 February 2016 15: 53 New
    +2
    And to restore for good ???, or to sell?
  16. vit
    vit 25 February 2016 15: 57 New
    0
    drove him to the Krasnodar Territory, Kuban craftsmen for free for a couple of months disposed of them !!! how many things are needed on the farm! Yes, and scrap metal hundreds of tons, a good financial help! I wish the people had a holiday!
    ps ready to take up the order for 10% of the lard! laughing
    ss But the boat is really a pity!
    1. VALERIK_097
      VALERIK_097 25 February 2016 16: 05 New
      +4
      Krasnodar region? Peaceful atom in every home?
  17. Makslehman
    Makslehman 25 February 2016 15: 58 New
    0
    so really for 1 billion no one wants to tear it up? ready to tow and flood quietly))
  18. smirnoff-spb1
    smirnoff-spb1 25 February 2016 16: 02 New
    +1
    Sorry ship!
  19. Professor
    Professor 25 February 2016 16: 05 New
    +1
    What problems? Hindus will do it all for free.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 25 February 2016 16: 16 New
      0
      Ladushki, only towing the Urals to India will be carried out at your expense.
  20. Hort
    Hort 25 February 2016 16: 18 New
    0
    so and its modernization is impractical? Or is it impossible to do this due to wear? shipbuilders, enlighten :)
    1. spravochnik
      spravochnik 25 February 2016 16: 59 New
      +7
      In our time of victorious rationalism, everything is inexpedient, which does not bring a momentary profit.
  21. DrVintorez
    DrVintorez 25 February 2016 16: 28 New
    +2
    sorry. very sorry. It is clear that it is no longer possible to restore / modernize / re-equip the Ural, but a very bitter residue remains, that such a unique vessel was simply very unlucky with the time of birth. Yes, this is not a combat ship, but remember how much effort and harm was invested in it, remember how many minds worked on it (from the Ministry of Taxes and Communications, to the most important academics), how many hard workers in factories worked on this miracle! remove the reactor, remove, if anything remains secret, take it out into the ocean and open the kingstones. this is not just a ship, it is practically a monument to the power that has died.
    1. Captain45
      Captain45 25 February 2016 20: 27 New
      0
      Quote: DrVintorez
      take him to the ocean and open kingstones. it’s not just a ship, it’s practically a monument to the power that did not become.

      If we do as you suggest, then the Power, of which it is a monument, will sink like this ship (namely a ship, not a vessel) "I think so" (c) k \ f "Mimino" wink
      1. DrVintorez
        DrVintorez 26 February 2016 05: 25 New
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        Better to let it go to the bottom than to cut it on needles. "I think so" winked
        1. clidon
          clidon 26 February 2016 16: 46 New
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          May it benefit.
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  23. Algetxnumx
    Algetxnumx 25 February 2016 16: 29 New
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    Quote: Professor
    What problems? Hindus will do it all for free.

    Yes, ah, you, as always, in your repertoire, what kind of Indians, for free, the video is incomprehensible, what is the weather? Did you sleep badly? or are we joking like that? Is Israel weak? For free?
    1. Professor
      Professor 25 February 2016 20: 32 New
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      Quote: Alget87
      Yes, ah, you, as always, in your repertoire, what kind of Indians, for free, the video is incomprehensible, what is the weather? Did you sleep badly? or are we joking like that? Is Israel weak? For free?

      Hindus are the main ship recyclers in the world. Most ships in the world end their lives on the shores of India. And the Indians do not need any heavy cranes. Learn the materiel.

  24. polkovnik manuch
    polkovnik manuch 25 February 2016 16: 34 New
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    As I understand it, the whole problem is that there are no cranes to pull out the reactors. South Korea, close by, as they say, will want to agree. Yes, and such a crane at the Dalzavod "Zvezda" in the near future, I think, will not "stand idle". It's just that we everywhere hope for "effective managers", and they only know how to "cut" the loot!
    1. Dimon19661
      Dimon19661 25 February 2016 17: 25 New
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      Dalzavod "Zvezda" is how ????
  25. Algetxnumx
    Algetxnumx 25 February 2016 16: 49 New
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    Quote: PHANTOM-AS
    In order to establish a message in the Crimea, Greek ferries bought, built in the early nineties.

    So the Chinese ship laid the energy bridge and, in general, what are we talking about, what kind of ships, ferries - the World Cup and European Championship in football, hockey and what the hell knows what, the gathering of young people and students, this is creative, this is cool, and fortune-telling on oil denser and the search for various levels of the bottom of our economy are the urgent affairs of our leaders, and naturally the "most cunning" plans of "Y" (why Y, and what would no one guess (C))
  26. uskrabut
    uskrabut 25 February 2016 17: 03 New
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    Gather a team of the most ingenious saw cutters of the budget, create a Rosraspil office, give them hacksaws and let them saw. laughing IVS would do so
    1. killganoff
      killganoff 25 February 2016 19: 35 New
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      Gather a team of the most ingenious saw cutters of the budget, create a Rosraspil office, give them hacksaws and let them saw. laughing IVS would do just that

      I propose to appoint experienced saws to this office in the form of Serdyukov, Chubais, Ivanov and other friends of Vedmeputin.

      They also covered the Radio Electronic Center in Lourdes.
  27. Santjaga_Garka
    Santjaga_Garka 25 February 2016 18: 50 New
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    It’s even a pity, it would be better if they gave it to Museum needs - still such an exhibit ...
  28. arnulla
    arnulla 25 February 2016 18: 52 New
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    This is a colossus !!
  29. Wanderer 2008
    Wanderer 2008 25 February 2016 21: 44 New
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    Quote: uskrabut
    Gather a team of the most ingenious saw cutters of the budget, create a Rosraspil office, give them hacksaws and let them saw.

    Candidates for the team are quite worthy. To appoint Taburetkin as the head of the office, he will choose the deputy, they already have a candidate for the position of accountant. The Prosecutor General's Office of the Russian Federation, the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Russian Federation, the IC of the Russian Federation with a set of states will help. And let them saw with hacksaws.
  30. Old26
    Old26 25 February 2016 21: 51 New
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    Quote: Boos
    Brainless, spend a lard on the disposal of what can be towed away and open the kingstones ... Although it will be so, but a billion are stealed.

    Great idea, just brilliant. But it would only be interesting to know what your great-great-grandchildren would say on this occasion?

    Quote: Santjaga_Garka
    It’s even a pity it would be better to give it to Museum needs - after all, such an exhibit

    Also a good idea. Extreme Museum tour of the puffing ship
  31. Kassik
    Kassik 25 February 2016 23: 17 New
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    Another such photo from tyrnet ... sad

    I visited the "Ural" once, spent three days with a friend ... Inexpressible impressions ...

    It is unfortunate that, like so much more, it’s about ... it.
  32. 8140
    8140 26 February 2016 00: 18 New
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    Young fellows! About ... Ser of the fleet, instead of conservation, which should have been carried out in 2000m, continues. God, what will make the officials of this country reason? Although, I watched an interesting film here, I especially liked the phrase: "... Your word, comrade Mauser ..."
  33. Dikson
    Dikson 26 February 2016 00: 20 New
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    Talking that it is impossible to overtake a cut vessel is just an excuse .. Pour concrete bulkheads, weld the necks and compartments - a ship with such a displacement is very difficult to drown .. it will survive the stage. The question is lard sawing, most likely, in reactors and turbines .. In the end, who prevents sawing it afloat, in sections, and rented a floating crane to pull it to where? bulked up bulkheads, sawn into sections and work in the dock ..
    1. VALERIK_097
      VALERIK_097 26 February 2016 17: 29 New
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      The problem is SNF unloading, its delivery to the Lighthouse and reprocessing, this is a huge amount of money, then converting the energy compartment into block packaging, and ensuring its long-term storage. Not only do you need to cut them with cutters, there is something to be built there.