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Pragmatism vs. ideology: how Kazakhstan overtakes Russia

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The Russian authorities are full of optimism and are not taking concrete steps to change the country's industrial landscape. Another thing is Kazakhstan, where economic diversification is already bearing fruit.


Searches for the bottom

About the fact that the bottom of the crisis has already been passed, only a lazy official did not say. However, something prevents divide rainbow expectations. First, there is no reason to hope for any lasting sustainability of today's oil prices, not to mention their possible growth to the pre-New Year level. On the contrary, there are increasing signs indicating a very likely reduction in the cost of hydrocarbons on the world market. And then our recession, as well as inflation (as a result of a new devaluation push) will receive another acceleration.

Secondly, even if the government's assumptions prove more or less accurate, we will not have to rejoice in this, if only because neither the government’s anti-crisis plan, nor the monetary policy of the Central Bank is aimed at changing the country's industrial landscape and the structure of export revenues. But without this, the country sooner or later (rather sooner) will again be defenseless before the next failure of oil prices, with all the well-known consequences for the state budget, the ruble exchange rate, inflation rates and the dynamics of real incomes of the population.

It cannot be said that the authorities completely ignore such a perspective. From time to time, the first persons of the state publicly declare the exhaustion of the previous model not only of the economy, but also of economic policy. It even speaks of the need for a new paradigm in the management of the national economy. However, it does not go further than words.

Primitivization of the economy continued in obese and lean years, despite periodic ritual spells about its harm for positioning the country in a harsh global world. Even today, it is impossible to get rid of the feeling that the government does not know any other ways of getting rid of the notorious oil needle, except for improving the investment climate, reducing inflation to 4% and issuing federal target programs on a fire order according to the “all sisters by earring” principle. But after all, it cannot but know that even with an ideal investment climate and zero inflation, the desired structural changes in the economy have not been carried out anywhere in the world without strong systematic state support and the same powerful stimulation of private entrepreneurial activity.

The neighbor is better

You can, of course, declare that we are still hostage to the Soviet understanding of the economy and post-Soviet powerlessness. And not only we, but also everyone around us with the same baggage cannot move.

But this is not so. Let's look at one of our neighbors - Kazakhstan, a country that is also heavily dependent on the vagaries of the global hydrocarbon market. Here we are really ready to move from rhetoric about the so-called raw materials curse to systematic actions in the direction of real, rather than simulated, modernization of the national economy.

You can evaluate all the work that Kazakhstanis have already done to integrate into the global economy, according to several generally accepted indicators. Primary: Are investors, both domestic and foreign, ready to invest in the country? In Kazakhstan, in the first half of 2015, investments in new projects increased by 250% compared to the same period last year (fDi Markets, Financial Times). For comparison: in Russia over the same period, direct investment fell by 50%. Kazakhstan has become a recognized leader in the CIS in attracting foreign investment per capita. This directly affects the quality of life of people: over 2001 – 2013, the average nominal money income per capita per month in the republic increased 5,3 times.

The model, due to which international finance comfortably feels in Kazakhstan, is simple and is based on the active role of the state in attracting investments. In particular, it does everything in order to provide investors - their own and visitors - with the most comfortable working conditions. The country has a fairly low taxation, for example, income tax - 15%, VAT - 12%, personal income tax - 10%, insurance payments - 15%; In the Russian Federation, all this is 1,5 – 2 times higher.

The state does not throw everything and everyone into the market, but guarantees support. Further optimization of the tax regime, simplification and unification of licensing procedures, attraction of anchor investors in construction, agriculture, oil refining, energy - all this state undertakes.

Further more

Judging by the plans voiced by Nursultan Nazarbayev in the “100 Steps” program pre-election document, countries are planning not only to diversify the economy within the existing framework, but also to push them apart, creating completely new opportunities for growth. This is a risk, but it is most likely justified. So, in 2016, the International Financial Center in Astana (AIFC) should start work.

I foresee the remark of skeptics. After all, the same intention was recently declared with fanfare in Russia, when the upcoming creation of the International Financial Center in Moscow was announced. And what came of it? Another idea in the spirit of words without consequences. The Kazakhstan project has more chances for implementation. For me, the fact that under this initiative the relevant legislative framework was immediately brought is very important. The other day, the Parliament of Kazakhstan adopted a bill, in accordance with which the International Financial Center in Astana is being created according to the model of Dubai as a financial hub for the Eurasian region. Of course, it is unlikely that it will take off in the same way as Dubai, which in ten years has become the leading Asian center of gravity for finance. But it can occupy a niche in the region, ensuring the interaction of regional stock markets of the countries of Central Asia, western China, and the CIS.

The AIFC is ready to provide the most important thing the business now craves - protection from arbitrariness. The legislation of the financial center will be built on English law, will open independent commercial arbitration, whose decisions will have priority over the decisions of the court of Kazakhstan. For residents of AIFC, Class A offices will be provided free of charge for two years, exemption from all taxes on 50 years. In the short term, this is, of course, budget risks, but in the long term, Kazakhstan, becoming an even more reliable partner of international business, is becoming a platform for the implementation of modern industrial projects. On a national scale, a multiplier effect should work, new productions and additional jobs will appear. It is especially important to emphasize that the new financial center, which should become a financial hub for the CIS countries, as well as the entire region of West and Central Asia, will be coupled with the implementation of a gigantic real economy project called the Eurasian Transcontinental Corridor, which will transport goods from Asia to Europe

As a result, Kazakhstan will be able to increase annually to GDP at least 1% due to non-oil production, and enterprises of the republic expect to attract more than $ 100 billion in investments up to 2025 of the year. And all this is due to public administration, which in Kazakhstan, unlike its northern neighbor, is not a subject of ideological debate. They do not argue about the relationship between public and private in the categories of good and evil, but in fact they care about improving the quality of the first and encouraging the second. It is clearly aware that the success of economic policy implies a dynamic equilibrium of state activity and self-regulatory forces.
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  1. yuriy55
    yuriy55 26 February 2016 16: 05
    15
    Only the lazy official did not say that the bottom of the crisis has already been passed.


    It’s hard to find the bottom in a swamp. Whoever did this will never tell us anything ... recourse
    1. Samen
      Samen 26 February 2016 16: 12
      +4
      Maybe we should join Kazakhstan? I am impressed by this "propaganda"! )))
      1. Baikonur
        Baikonur 26 February 2016 16: 14
        +2
        Quote: Semen
        Maybe we join Kazakhstan?
        RENAME !!! laughing

        In my opinion this article was a few months ago! Or really very similar!
        1. Aksakal_07
          Aksakal_07 26 February 2016 17: 30
          +5
          Quote: Baikonur
          In my opinion this article was a few months ago! Or really very similar!

          This is not an article, but a story about the intentions of the Kazakh authorities. Good wishes are not deeds. There are also many in Russia who want to voice "protocols of intent."
          I would look at the success of the planned "financial hub" in Astana if Kazakhstan had to spend money on increasing its defense capability, as Russia is forced to do.
          1. sgazeev
            sgazeev 26 February 2016 17: 39
            +9
            Quote: Aksakal_07
            Quote: Baikonur
            In my opinion this article was a few months ago! Or really very similar!

            This is not an article, but a story about the intentions of the Kazakh authorities. Good wishes are not deeds. There are also many in Russia who want to voice "protocols of intent."
            I would look at the success of the planned "financial hub" in Astana if Kazakhstan had to spend money on increasing its defense capability, as Russia is forced to do.

            Without Russia, Kazakhstan will perish, the partners will devour.
      2. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 26 February 2016 16: 20
        +2
        Quote: Semen
        Maybe we join Kazakhstan?

        Better move there.
        Quote: Semen
        I am impressed by this agitation! )

        You will come to Kazakhstan, you will curse the author to the fifth knee.
        The national currency of Kazakhstan beats one anti-record after another. On January 11, they gave 356 tenge for the dollar, and on January 12 at the Kazakhstan Stock Exchange tenders - a little more than 365. For comparison: in January 2015, the rate was almost twice as high - 183 tenge per dollar.
        Read more: http://news.tut.by/world/480445.html

        They have big problems and do not have to rely on; just one article does not make clear who.
        1. Samen
          Samen 26 February 2016 16: 27
          +3
          Better move there.

          You did not catch sarcasm. Sorry.
          This: ")))" - the designation of laughter, comrade commander!
          1. Kasym
            Kasym 26 February 2016 19: 25
            19
            The tenge-dollar exchange rate today is 350 tenge per dollar, slipped from 380 tenge. But I think it will grow, because the rate of 1 ruble = 5 tenge is profitable for us (now look at the ruble-dollar rate in Russia).
            Regarding taxes, the author is much lower than in Russia. But we must understand that we are remote from maritime communications and are not as attractive as Russia. Based on this, a trace was introduced for foreign investors (production). offers:
            1. Vacations from certain taxes up to 10 years.
            2. After the start of production, the state returns 30% of the invested capital.
            3. Infrastructure at the expense of the state: water, electricity, road, etc.
            It must be assumed that the growth in investment is associated with sanctions against Russia. Enter the EAEU market through us. Recently, the Turkish prime minister arrived - the main goal of the visit is relations with the Russian Federation (NAS called the GDP after this visit, so I think this was the main task of this visit). But at the same time, the Turk is interested in opening Turkish production in Kazakhstan. hi
            Romanov. "You can't exalt yourself by humiliating others." Kazakhstan is the name of the country, therefore it is written with a capital letter.
            1. Kasym
              Kasym 26 February 2016 20: 24
              +7
              About the world. financial center.
              The fact is that the West practically does not give long-term loans to Kazakhstan (last year the EU gave ... guarantees for ... 1 billion - for Kazakhstan a penny). Apparently this is due to the fact that since 93 the National Academy of Sciences has been hatching the idea of ​​the EAEU, a new UNION. We have been sitting under them for a long time even without sanctions. So I decided to go from the other end. Last year, NAS with a large delegation was in England. I don't know what they decided there, but the interest in fin. the center showed. But they demanded to conduct business in accordance with English law. In Astana, land was allocated for the construction of the Center, and as I understand it, it will be a "closed zone" where the English Fin. legislation. Alma-Ata has a regional fin. center, but there only ours and grew. banks, and joint Russian-Kazakh. Eurasian Bank (head office in Alma-Ata) - so there is little experience.
              In connection with this situation, Chinese loans help us a lot. For example, last year the PRC "signed up" for $ 30 billion. loans for us. Of course, they love to push loans for themselves, but they behave very decently with us. We criticized Beijing for giving money mainly for energy resources. And they "heard" this criticism and began to give it for industrial projects not related to energy resources. For example, the Economic Belt of the Silk Road - there is mainly industry (more than 40 industrial objects that will affect all regions of the Republic of Kazakhstan). Besides the Chinese, there are the interests of Korea, India and Japan.
              Europe, besides our energy carriers, is of little interest. Therefore, NAS has long ago introduced the organization of the main foreign. investors in Kazakhstan. The meeting is held once a year under its chairmanship (requires that the top officials of the companies come to the meeting). And there they are "pressed" on the sly. For example, Chevron (an American oil company) built a plastic pipe plant. Those. asks to invest not only in energy projects, and asks them to find partners for us. That General Electric (USA) for the assembly of locomotives has already begun to assemble the engines here, production is slowly shifting to our components (they promise that there will be more than 50%). hi
              1. avt
                avt 26 February 2016 21: 45
                +1
                Quote: Kasym
                Therefore, I decided to go from the other end. Last year, the NAS with a large delegation was in England. I don’t know what they decided there, but interest in fin. showed to the center.

                hi I beg you! laughing Straight London Stock Exchange decides to move to Astana!? wassat And in Moscow we have a whole city monster played off at Testovskaya, well, in the Belarusian direction, so what?
                Quote: Kasym
                . But they demanded to conduct business according to English law.

                Then they’ll come up with something else. Or maybe they decided to drown their island in the Atlantic Ocean? Then yes - they will move. laughing But this is so - distracted from the topic, here in the light
                Quote: avt
                I admit to their intricacies of power not well versed in good.

                Well, Kazakh and I have to admit, this shuffling of the parliament and local authorities ahead of schedule in Kazakhstan at this current moment somehow strained. Why did the NAS so decide to shake it right down to the local ones? Maybe really
                Quote: avt
                Or maybe the NAS of the receiver in April will hold its place, and he himself, like Dan Seo Ping, will remain a simple spruce?

                But in general, such a move with the preservation of ITS OWN long-term course is really possible to do with a stable political system, and not with re-elections. And then after all, even to the point of bifurcation of the political system, one can be re-elected either. request But I repeat - I just don’t know the subtleties of the intricacies of the political system in Kazakhstan to the extent that I would make a confident forecast. Some questions only come out laughing
                1. Arbogast
                  27 February 2016 07: 36
                  +3
                  Quote: avt
                  I beg you! The London Stock Exchange will decide to move to Astana !?
                  Get hungry on. The same comments were about shale gas, but it won’t work out ..
                  Actually, Kazakhstan, in many respects, has already closed on itself the financial flows of Central Asia. Those. investments before going, say to Kyrgyzstan, go through the railway in Almaty. Already now we can say that Kazakhstan is a financial hub of Central Asia.
                  Currently, the task is to increase it, at the same time working in the Russian direction. Mainly - beyond the Urals. Those. "bite off" at least a fraction of the huge Russian pie ..
                  Quote: avt
                  Why did the NAS so decide to shake it down to the local ones?
                  "Nat am, only through my corpse (s).
                  The elections are necessary to fill up tenge 1 to 5, and they will massively cut "meat" (social programs, budget) .. Well, and carry out infrastructure reforms, which are so often talked about in the Russian Federation
                  Quote: MASK
                  At the right time, "pops up in memory."
                  Meehan / Malachite do not indulge in a surrogate wassat And then at the right time "will not rise"negative Or already ..crying
                  Quote: MASK
                  Still just not the time!
                  Nothing, banshee come and order nave soldier And you will be banned .. bully and me..drinks
                  1. avt
                    avt 27 February 2016 09: 37
                    0
                    Quote: Arbogast
                    The same comments were about shale gas, but it won’t work out ..

                    laughing Before writing how it turned out, ask who it turned out, for what money and who specifically went up on this scam, again why the method known in the USSR so in the same USSR was not widespread.
            2. Alexander Romanov
              Alexander Romanov 28 February 2016 05: 03
              +1
              Quote: Kasym
              Romanov. "You cannot exalt yourself by humiliating others.

              I did not humiliate anyone, stupid stupid got. Replace the title of the article with Russia and all will spit on it, without even giving details.
        2. Pravdarm
          Pravdarm 26 February 2016 16: 29
          +7
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          They have big problems and do not have to rely on; just one article does not make clear who.
          I do not argue! But we have a dollar even 2,5 times - from 30 to 75!
          1. Kasym
            Kasym 26 February 2016 20: 51
            +8
            PravdARM. Our tenge devaluation was primarily due to your devaluation. We held the course until the PRC dropped the yuan. Excuse me here - our goods have become expensive. The National Academy of Sciences stated that Kazakhstan spent 40 billion to maintain the exchange rate. Now guess where this currency went, if only 30 cars were taken out of the Russian Federation last year? And our border regions of the Russian Federation began to buy real estate. In that Novosibirsk, for example. In fact, this was our "help" to Russia. For example, last year KazMunayGas gave a commodity loan (gas) 000 billion dollars to Gazprom.
            We Kazakhstanis rejoice when positive changes occur in the Russian Federation. Because we do not need a poor and impoverished RF - how to trade and climb it if the neighbor is poor !? And here the comments of the Russians are not very encouraging - do you need a poor and impoverished Kazakhstan with outstretched hands !? Do you want us to ask you for help like others? When guests from Kiev came to me, they were surprised by the number of new cars and roads - their views were different. hi
            1. avt
              avt 26 February 2016 22: 08
              0
              Quote: Kasym
              Our devaluation of the tenge primarily occurred due to your devaluation.

              No. What side is it !? request In Kazakhstan, OWN emission center is in no way connected with the Russian one. Well, there is not even close to any hint within the EAEU of some kind of coordinated financial monetary policy! You and Rozny on this site clashed for a long time on this topic. When he argued to me that in 2015 there will be a single currency of the Union. The Kazakh denga flew due to pegging to the dollar, like the Russian ruble, and the Chinese dropped their yuan after at least two blatant attacks by the USA on the Hong Kong and Shanghai stock exchanges, and before that, at the request of the same USs, the yuan is de undervalued, they raised it to the detriment of their own economy. Kazakhstan with the current fight between the Players and the collapse of the US oil prices, which does not depend on production, but only on the futures quotes, banal speculation of the New York Stock Exchange. in fact, the economies, and even those tied to oil production, fell down first. Butke also got it - his potassium collapsed even earlier. Could such a devaluation have been avoided? Such - yes With a single payment system with a single emission center it would be like in Russia - twice. BUT! Again we discussed this with you - they will not agree on a single emission center. Could you do it yourself? I think not, at least because
              Quote: Kasym
              The fact is that the West practically does not give long loans to Kazakhstan (last year the EU gave ... guarantees for ... 1 billion - for a penny for Kazakhstan).

              That is, they will not be allowed to refinance and sit out, although Kazakhstan is not even going to join Yuzhmash. laughing In fact, “long money” for 5 years or longer, which can be used to dampen such a situation, is not given - only stock speculators played short in Kazakhstan, however, as well as in Russia.
              1. Kasym
                Kasym 26 February 2016 22: 53
                +3
                ABT, good evening!
                It's not about the exchange, but as stated in the article fin.centre like Hong Kong, Dubai, etc. .., as access to the world. financial institutions.
                Elections. "Early elections", in my opinion, to avoid the influence of Western countries on the fifth column. Time is too short to have time to somehow influence. And one more guess. This year we are launching a large infrastructure project "Nurly Zhol" - the construction of highways in all directions from Astana (on Monday I traveled from Almaty to Taldy-Kurgan and back, a road is being built from Alma-Ata to Ust-Kamenogorsk and further to Russia , through Taldy-Kurgan, has not yet been fully completed (about 80% of readiness to Taldy-Kurgan) - but what was done impressed - a cool road). So they say that the deputies "stuck" to the project - I have a "road builder", and he said that all road builders jump away, because kickbacks are not feeble. And in order not to ruin the project - to disperse the "suckers".
                Devaluation. Our products, such as food (which, by the way, is not badly sold in the Russian Federation) has become expensive and uncompetitive in Russia. And now, we write, 1500 items are supplied to the Russian Federation and are in certain demand (for example, we have good flour). That is why, I believe, over time, a single currency will be needed so that there are no third-party factors. When - I don't know, but is it logical ?! And the devaluation: we did not have a "floating" dollar exchange rate, as in the Russian Federation (the state strictly regulated it), therefore it was devalued overnight. In the morning we woke up and ... you know. And now we have introduced a floating exchange rate. hi
                I think it makes sense at first to introduce a single currency in parallel with national currencies.
                1. Kasym
                  Kasym 26 February 2016 23: 52
                  +4
                  AiF Kazakhstan published an article in the last issue of 11 pages. "Difficulties in the transition period". There it is described how 7 months affected. advantage in the exchange rate difference between ruble-dollar-tenge. Kazakhstanis pulled the money out of bank deposits and rushed to buy up cheaper goods and real estate in the Russian Federation. Thus, they undermined their banking system of deposits. Second. Later, the intervention of the central bank undermined domestic business: cheap goods from the Republic of Belarus and the Russian Federation pushed domestic ones aside. Well, the purchase of "cheapened" real estate has spurred the migration flow (everything is cheap there, but expensive in Kazakhstan).
                  Well, a couple of positive news.
                  1. "The National Academy of Sciences has ratified the Kazakh-Russian Protocol on Baikonur. It provides for measures to bring to a state of readiness and attract the necessary forces and means of the two states in case of accidents when launching rockets from the cosmodrome. The changes are aimed at improving the legal framework of the interstate. interaction for more efficient and safe operation of the cosmodrome. " That is, in case of emergency launches, Kazakhstan will also bear part of the costs.
                  2. In Alma-Ata, a solemn procession of thousands of soldiers "we are millions of Panfilov's men", dedicated to 75 years, was held. victory near Moscow. A week earlier, here (a monument to the Panfilov heroes in the park of the same name) they handed over the standard of the International watch in memory of "There are millions of Panfilovites" to the representatives of growing up. the city of Yekaterinburg. hi
                  1. Kasym
                    Kasym 27 February 2016 00: 12
                    +3
                    ABT, a concrete example. Earlier in the salons, the new Toyota Camry 50, 2,5l., Cost under 30 thousand. And now the new, according to private announcements, in the region of 20 thousand .. Our salons were hit, there were no sales. hi
                    1. Kasym
                      Kasym 27 February 2016 00: 46
                      +4
                      Why do I think that a common currency is needed.
                      Imagine that in the Republic of Kazakhstan 1dol = 350tenge, and we will do 1dol = 700tenge in a short period of time. What will happen? What will happen to us will happen. The Russians rush to buy cheaper goods and we will get an advantage. Our products will begin to crowd out Russian manufacturers in the Russian Federation! Who needs this currency war? We ourselves will sentence our EAEU. hi
                  2. velikoros-xnumx
                    velikoros-xnumx 27 February 2016 01: 35
                    +3
                    Quote: Kasym
                    In Alma-Ata, a solemn procession of thousands of soldiers "we are millions of Panfilov members", dedicated to 75 years, was held. victory near Moscow. A week earlier, here (a monument to the Panfilov heroes in the park of the same name) they handed over the standard of the International watch in memory of "There are millions of Panfilovites" to the representatives of growing up. the city of Yekaterinburg.

                    Frankly speaking, this news was very encouraging. It would be nice for us to stir up the "otvetka" too.
                  3. avt
                    avt 27 February 2016 10: 03
                    +1
                    Quote: Kasym
                    ... In Alma-Ata, a solemn procession of thousands of soldiers "we are millions of Panfilov members", dedicated to 75 years, was held. victory near Moscow.

                    On the topic, I have already gotten used to waiting for the film, Panfilov's 28 "! Now the premiere has been moved to the May one ... hi
                2. velikoros-xnumx
                  velikoros-xnumx 27 February 2016 01: 32
                  +2
                  Quote: Kasym
                  That's why, I believe, over time, a single currency will be needed so that there are no third-party factors. When - I don’t know, but it’s logical

                  Keep
                  Quote: Kasym
                  I think it makes sense at first to introduce a single currency in parallel with national currencies.

                  The meaning is definitely in a single supranational currency, a single issuing center with shares of participants according to the size of their national economies. All this for some time (transition period) should function in parallel with national currencies and emission centers. With a reservation, this should be for the entire EAEU, otherwise it is almost useless.
                3. avt
                  avt 27 February 2016 09: 59
                  0
                  Quote: Kasym
                  It's not about the exchange, but as stated in the article fin.centre like Hong Kong, Dubai, etc. .., as access to the world. financial institutions.

                  So this is the same thing, only a profile view. laughing What exactly is the City of London without the London Stock Exchange? A wand without popsicle. So Moscow Ssyt and Kazakh are twin comrades in money laundering through razvodilovo about the world financial center.
                  Quote: Kasym
                  . That's why, I believe, over time, a single currency will be needed so that there are no third-party factors.

                  request Naturally! Of course, it is necessary for settlements as in the CMEA ruble, or the same ecu in the EU (young people probably don’t know that before the euro there was such a financial instrument of the EU when the national currency was circulating) .NO, here again we rest on what I constantly write about - ONE EMISSION CENTER request , and then everything rolls along the ring road and the EAEU does not even go beyond the cartel agreement to the syndicate, everyone immediately turns on Batskino - "I don’t trade in suvaryanitet" and
                  Quote: Kasym
                  I think it makes sense at first to introduce a single currency in parallel with national currencies.

                  common sense instantly breaks down on the political ambitions of politicians fueled by the type of "national interests." Everyone wants to be the "Lord of the sea, to live in the sea", and the rest should be on parcels, and these wishlist are absolutely not tied to objective reality and your own capabilities and resources. And the throne in the Kremlin is one and folding chairs, as it was in the USSR in cinemas, is not provided on it. request As long as they demand “equality” from the Kremlin on pure naked enthusiasm, everything will remain the same, and I have not heard any other approach to the topic.
                  Quote: Kasym
                  And one more guess. This year we are launching a large infrastructure project "Nurly Zhol"

                  what But the topic is not too small for such a shake-up in power structures from top to bottom? Yes, it seems that in April the NAS and outlined re-elections for itself ... request
              2. Stas157
                Stas157 27 February 2016 13: 21
                +2
                Quote: avt
                Kazakhstan amid the current fight between the Players and the collapse of the US oil price, which does not depend on production, but only on the “futures quotes” - the banal speculation of the New York Stock Exchange. ”So Morgan and his comrades dropped oil chips ahead of time and started.

                Yes, you are a supporter of conspiracy theories, you think that everything in the world is decided by "Morgan and Comrades". Of course, oil is traded on the New York, as well as on the London oil, stock exchanges, but the price of oil is still determined by REAL supply and demand, and not by "futures quotes"! By the way, different futures contracts very often have different prices. With futures, you can only move the price for a while and then at a loss (in the event that you go against the real supply and demand). If it were that simple, we could regulate the prices of all goods using "magic futures", regardless of the real supply and demand! And why, tell me, should our Central Bank carry out foreign exchange interventions (for example, when the Central Bank wanted to keep the dollar rate), spending precious international reserves, if it is enough to buy a pose in "futures", where the GO is 10 times less than the price of real dollars? And on options, you can take a position by spending 30 times less than the price of real dollars on the Standard market! And business then! Keep the ruble exchange rate as you want! Yes, it just won't work, because these are TEMPORARY contracts! Therefore, the Central Bank has to burn its foreign exchange reserves (this is in the event that the Central Bank suddenly decides to support the ruble exchange rate).
                1. avt
                  avt 27 February 2016 15: 38
                  +1
                  Quote: Stas157
                  Yes, you are a supporter of conspiracy theories, you think that everything in the world is decided by "Morgan and Comrades".

                  laughing Directly according to Bulgakov - no matter what you ask, it is not. laughing The Fed, of course, according to your theory, the state shop and the Morgan are clearly not related to it even at the time of privatization. wassat And Abram Lincoln was killed by a lone psycho, the same Kennedy from "Mannlicher", with the speed of jerking the bolt faster than an automatic rifle and without aiming so straight into the head he sent. laughing Go ahead, go further with the "truth" from the Higher School of Economics and other "market people" who piously believe in "the market will regulate everything", and other things like "jumps" of the dollar, as if it has legs.
                  1. Stas157
                    Stas157 27 February 2016 16: 44
                    +3
                    Quote: avt
                    Directly according to Bulgakov - no matter what you ask, it is not.

                    Do not understand.
                    Quote: avt
                    The FRS, of course, according to your theory, the state shop and the Morgan are clearly not related to it even at the time of privatization. wassat And Abram Lincoln was killed by a lone psycho, the same Kennedy from "Mannlicher", with the speed of jerking the bolt faster than an automatic rifle and without aiming so straight in the head, he sent a line. , market people "who firmly believe in" the market will regulate everything ", and other things like" jumps "of the dollar, as if it has legs.

                    And where did you get the idea that I think so? What do you attribute your mriy to me! Although for supporters of conspiracy thesis is normal.
                    I was just trying to express my point of view about the common misconception that oil prices can supposedly be dropped using speculation on futures, and they do not give a damn about the real supply-demand ratio.
            2. velikoros-xnumx
              velikoros-xnumx 27 February 2016 01: 20
              +3
              Quote: Kasym
              We Kazakhstanis rejoice when positive changes occur in the Russian Federation. Because we do not need a poor and impoverished RF - how to trade and climb it if the neighbor is poor !? And here the comments of the Russians are not very encouraging - you need a poor and impoverished Kazakhstan with an outstretched hand!

              Hello Kasym. Recently on VO there was an article about the sale of modernized T-72s to Jordan. To my shame there were so many acrimonious comments. I confess that it can be sinful and I myself can write something sharp. But this is if they touch the "live" with something offensive and offensive. I am always glad to the success of our normal neighbors, which certainly includes Kazakhstan. Upsetting is the strengthening of unhealthy national sentiment and national policy (after all, there are almost a quarter of the population of Russians in Kazakhstan). The same tendencies in Belarus. I hope common sense and pragmatism will prevail, not stupidity.
              1. Kasym
                Kasym 27 February 2016 03: 45
                +5
                Hello Michael! This is a joint growth. stock. I don’t know why the Panfilov’s, apparently in the edification of all the liberals and the fifth column, who claim that there was no feat, etc. etc .. It started in Orenburg, then Chelyabinsk, Novosibirsk, Alma-Ata, Yekaterinburg, etc. And it will end in the fall of 2016 in Moscow. Everything was solemn with us. The granddaughters of the legendary divisional commander in Alma-Ata handed the scarlet banner to the representatives of Yekaterinburg. Our military was dressed in the old uniform, from the time of the Second World War and marched from the monument to D. Kunaev. to the monument to 28 heroes of Panfilov’s (about 1 km.).
                With the Nazis, everything became simple. For any statement that insults on the national., Relig. and other signs shine a specific time. For the statement leading to the interethnic. discord also. Therefore, especially zealous keep their mouths shut. We still have a lot of people. state, about 130 nationalities. And any normal Kazakh himself will close his mouth to any Nazi. All universities have Kaz. and Russian. branch. 50% of schools are Russian and I perfectly understand why: to replace Moscow State University (a branch in Astana, my nephew graduated recently: half of his studies in Astana, half at Moscow State University) or MGIMO, etc. nothing. My son is studying in a private school (where there are still a lot of Soviet personnel), so 90% of Asians in the class, and the study is in Russian. And so in all Russian schools - at least 50% are Asians, so you can not worry about the Russian language. Utterance of the great kaz. thinker Abai Kunanbaev ("Through the Russian language we learn the whole world") lives on. hi
                Yes, and see how many Kazakhstanis on the site and everyone writes in Russian more or less competently
                1. velikoros-xnumx
                  velikoros-xnumx 27 February 2016 06: 41
                  +1
                  The wife was born in Kazakhstan (the village of Ozerki, Zhanasemeysky district, Semipalatinsk region), the mother-in-law lived half her life there. Mother-in-law said that when the Kazakhs left Kazakhstan, the neighbors with whom they were friends cried. I never said the word evil. Still maintaining a relationship (hooked on classmates winked ), and the khokhla often recalls the chairman of the collective farm not in the best words. I don’t worry about that generation. Young people who are 19-25 are afraid for them. Bad age, many ambitions, little life experience, are easily brainwashed (without distinction of nationality). We also have this element, but it has become noticeably less than in the 18s. The shares of these "comrades" have been paid for, those who are "older" are aware of the "salaries". Ordinary suckers 21-XNUMX are used in the dark. In fact, they are marginalized without any support.
        3. Tujh
          Tujh 26 February 2016 17: 21
          10
          Quote: Alexander Romanov

          You will come to Kazakhstan, you will curse the author to the fifth knee.

          Do not shoot the pianist - he plays as he can. Well, if in essence, it is unlikely that the author was in Kazakhstan at all. Last year we had a presidential election, and although before that I had voted against, this time I voted for Nazarbayev. The events in Ukraine pushed for this, it was naive that the authorities would change their minds and reconsider their attitude towards the people. Yes, apparently not a horse feed.
          1. adept666
            adept666 26 February 2016 18: 20
            +2
            Do not shoot the pianist - he plays as he can. Well, if in essence, it is unlikely that the author was in Kazakhstan at all
            Voice of reason let it be heard! And the fact that the author was not in the RK right in 10-ku. You + for objectivity.
        4. adept666
          adept666 26 February 2016 18: 19
          +6
          They have big problems and do not have to rely on; just one article does not make clear who.
          The problems are more serious than in the Russian Federation, the NAS itself said the budget did not receive 40% of the profit. I don’t know who and why draws all these tales in the article. There was a period of small fat, when the oil began to fall and the ruble exchange rate it turned out that the tenge lagged behind because the national bank profiled a damn cloud of money to maintain the tenge exchange rate, the reserves flew away and this is the result. The NAS also spoke of this as an achievement, although this is a mediocre policy in the sphere of economics and finance. Apart from the oil industry and metallurgy, there is nothing else, not even an electric kettle of our own production. Who and where invests is generally incomprehensible.
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      4. Nikolay K
        Nikolay K 26 February 2016 16: 27
        +5
        I am impressed by this agitation! )))

        The fact of the matter is that agitation. In addition, that investment in Kazakhstan in the 1 half-year of 2015. increased by 3,5 times and that taxes are lower there, no specific information, water. Regarding the growth of investments, one half a year is not a follower. Kazakhstan is a small country, they attracted the Chinese to some project - here’s your rhinestone and growth indicators. And from the point of view of the investment climate, there are the same problems that we have: widespread corruption, nepotism in power and the arbitrariness of state bodies.
        1. Kasym
          Kasym 26 February 2016 21: 24
          +3
          Nikolay. Recently, the former prime minister and defense minister were planted. I am silent about the officials below. hi
          1. sherp2015
            sherp2015 27 February 2016 06: 27
            +1
            Quote: Kasym
            Nikolay. Recently, the former prime minister and defense minister were planted. I am silent about the officials below.


            Here it is. My respect to Kazakhstan and Nazarbay personally.
            We have Storchaks, Skrynniks and other vvachi Vasilieva with the Taburetkin well live free
          2. Tujh
            Tujh 27 February 2016 07: 08
            +2
            Quote: Kasym
            Nikolay. Recently, the former prime minister and defense minister were planted. I am silent about the officials below. hi

            Apparently, dear Kasym, you are not familiar with corruption in KTZ. Ask how many company presidents there have been, and why none are still sitting. And by the way, if we are going to participate in the "New Silk Road" project, then KTZ in this case is a strategic company. And if so, then you seem to be unaware of how money is being cut for modernization and new projects - no worse than in the construction of the Vostochny cosmodrome in Russia. After that, one should not be surprised that potential investors (European) are in no hurry to invest in Kazakhstan, and the future financial center, even according to English law, will be like a dead poultice here.
            1. Kasym
              Kasym 27 February 2016 15: 37
              +1
              Egor, good day! Naturally I know - I can give other examples, in bulk. How many multimillionaires - so many thieves of the highest category ?! Administrative resource or a sucker to one or another "pipe" - in the initial period there were no laws regulating market relations, so take anyone by the back and to places not so distant (NAS, VVP, LAS understand perfectly well that they will make mortal enemies). But this suggests that there are no more guarantees for any officials. hi
              1. Tujh
                Tujh 27 February 2016 18: 32
                0
                It seems like a dilemma arises here - which is better:
                a) people losing faith in justice, preparing to turn into an enemy and a handful of "partners" in power, ready to stab a knife in the back at an opportunity.
                b) the people who have seen changes for the better (you can’t imagine a better ally) and squeezed by dishonest officials on all sides (the experience of the Russian Federation - the All-Russian Popular Front can be useful here), the more administrative resource is more than enough - the KNB.
                Although, in my opinion, the first option is preferable for the National Academy of Sciences - less trouble, and in the future there will be less questions for him - why his family, one way or another, occupies key posts in the state.
      5. Sling
        Sling 26 February 2016 20: 49
        +5
        Quote: Semen
        Maybe we should join Kazakhstan? I am impressed by this "propaganda"! )))

        Yes, I don’t know directly. In my truth. I work across the CIS, and the Russian Federation by purchasing power has fallen significantly, I’m generally silent about my Belarusians. And the Kazakhs, really, look at my prices and order excitedly. Is it an indicator? A couple of years ago there was a different situation. I do not follow Forbes, but according to my income .. Yes, gentlemen, Kazakhstan rules !!!
      6. VP
        VP 26 February 2016 22: 11
        +1
        Not that agitation ... There really is something out there that wouldn't hurt us.
        But the bottom line is that they have some awesome laws aimed at stimulating the development of the economy, but in fact it practically does not work. There are many reasons for this.
        A friend worked there for several years as a deputy in one of the directions for a "very respected person" who has a strong manufacturing business, he said.
        In general, so far the words about Kazakh miracles are an order of magnitude higher than reality in the Russian Federation and the economy is better. Yes, and they depend on us in very many ways.
        But yes, Kazakhstan is now not some kind of wild backward Central Asian country.
        Although, of course, the article was written by a person who has no real idea.
    2. Samaritan
      Samaritan 26 February 2016 16: 18
      +3
      ... enterprises of the republic expect to attract more than $ 100 billion of investments until 2025 ...

      But nothing that Russia attracted investments many times more, before the sanctions ?! Hundreds of foreign factories have been built in the Russian Federation, for example, automobile or chemical production, paper, building materials, etc. Yes, almost all industries, well, except for IT, perhaps ... Attracting strangers is certainly good, but first of all you need to invest in your minds and technologies !!!
      1. sherp2015
        sherp2015 26 February 2016 18: 11
        +2
        Quote: Samaritan
        Hundreds of foreign factories have been built in the Russian Federation, for example, automobile or chemical manufacturing, paper, building materials


        Honestly, this is not an indicator for us. Hundreds of factories ...
        Thousands and even tens of thousands need to be restored industry
      2. Kasym
        Kasym 26 February 2016 21: 02
        +1
        Samaritan. 30 people study abroad. Of these, 000 in the Russian Federation and 14 students in the PRC. For a small population this is decent.
        We also collect cars. Peugeot, Toyota, VAZ, Koreans.
        Building materials. Previously, they didn’t even make nails, but now the bulk of building materials are made in Kazakhstan. Chemistry also rises from its knees, for example, the city of Karatau in the Dzhambul region and others. The authorities said that 700 enterprises were launched during the first five-year plan of the Kazakhstani industrialization program, now the second five-year plan has begun. Not without mistakes, of course, but there is movement forward. hi
    3. elmi
      elmi 26 February 2016 16: 18
      +9
      It is necessary at the legislative level to prescribe the order of changeability and change of power. That is, what you promise and do, did not succeed, did not fulfill, went out. An assessment of the government should be carried out after a certain period, for example, 2 year. The government failed to fulfill the promise, if the level of well-being of the people has not increased, then a legal early change of power. To appoint a high-level anti-corruption judicial executive body with wide powers capable of imprisoning not only citizens, but also officials, including deputies and ministers. They landed and prove your innocence to the crime. Such a system exists in South Korea and there is practically no corruption there. There are many good effective anti-corruption methods that have been proven by practice in other countries, another thing is the desire to fulfill to implement these ideas with us, because few people want to cut the branch on which they sit ...
      1. dorz
        dorz 26 February 2016 16: 33
        +1
        Quote: elmi
        for 2001 – 2013 years, the level of nominal cash incomes on average per capita per month in the republic increased 5,3 times.

        Beautiful numbers. Parliamentary elections are coming soon in Kazakhstan.
        1. avt
          avt 26 February 2016 17: 02
          +2
          Quote: dorz
          Beautiful numbers. Parliamentary elections are coming soon in Kazakhstan.

          Yeah, in a single impulse, the deputies suddenly prayed to the National Academy of Sciences with the lowest request for early parliamentary elections and in the field. wassat You understand the tradition, it seems like they have it all the time - to be re-elected ahead of schedule. And there, like, they will re-elect ANAS in April 2016 .... ahead of schedule. laughing The specifics of the understanding, or, the East is something-o-onkoe "And maybe the National Academy of Sciences of the receiver will take its place in April, and he, like Dan Seo Ping, will remain a simple elbasy? Who knows .... who knows. I confess to their The intricacies of the imperious are not well versed in good.
        2. elmi
          elmi 26 February 2016 19: 00
          +1
          Quote: dorz
          Quote: elmi
          for 2001 – 2013 years, the level of nominal cash incomes on average per capita per month in the republic increased 5,3 times.
          Beautiful numbers. Parliamentary elections are coming soon in Kazakhstan.

          And what do you attribute to me other people's quotes? in my previous message there was not a word - for 2001-2013 and the level of cash income per capita.
          The author’s quote was attributed to me. It’s not good
      2. oldseaman1957
        oldseaman1957 26 February 2016 16: 43
        +7
        Quote: elmi
        It is necessary at the legislative level to prescribe the order of changeability and change of power.
        - Now I am writing from China (Dalian). There are communists in power. Those who learn from ALIEN errors. The country has flourished. And we? ... We do not stand still. We are proudly backing away, under the prime minister’s rhetoric about some difficulties that we will surely overcome. The president will soon witty answer pre-selected questions. 30 years DEJAW ...
        1. S-kerrigan
          S-kerrigan 26 February 2016 17: 24
          -2
          Russia is big - not everywhere is bad.
          * From the discussion of "our neighbors", the Novosibirsk Forum ...
          "In our neighboring region, they also staked on high-tech, where IT firms are opening everywhere. Many work as outsourcing. The average amount of money inflow from 10 modern programmers is about 15-17 million per year. And there there are far from ten people. . "

          And yes, I see strong growth in my city as an example.
          1. weksha50
            weksha50 26 February 2016 18: 42
            +5
            Quote: S-Kerrigan
            And yes, I see strong growth in my city as an example.



            What can I say? Only: "Oh, the lucky one!" ...

            However, as you noticed, Russia is big, and not in all towns of Russia with the help of IT firms people find "happiness" and their dreams ...
            1. Quager
              Quager 26 February 2016 19: 15
              0
              Quote: weksha50
              Quote: S-Kerrigan
              And yes, I see strong growth in my city as an example.



              What can I say? Only: "Oh, the lucky one!" ...

              However, as you noticed, Russia is big, and not in all towns of Russia with the help of IT firms people find "happiness" and their dreams ...


              Sometimes it seems to me, maybe our government (Russian) just pretends to be so, to put it mildly non-Russian), but in fact, there is a hidden Great Neo-industrialization in the country? But do they pretend that the forces of the West do not catch themselves and do not deliver a premature blow? Pah, pah, pah, my words, yes ...
    4. dmi.pris
      dmi.pris 26 February 2016 20: 29
      +3
      I will once again give an example of Poland, "hated" by all of us. For 15 years they have created an efficient, multi-structured economy. For whose money, this is a different conversation. We are ruled by the oil and gas lobby - Putin and Medvedev are just their protégés and for the same 15 For years, there was only talk about how it was necessary to get off the oil and gas needle .. Conclusion - under the current regime, changes for the better in the economy are impossible - oil workers are tearing the blanket to their side.
      Quote: yuriy55
      Only the lazy official did not say that the bottom of the crisis has already been passed.


      It’s hard to find the bottom in a swamp. Whoever did this will never tell us anything ... recourse
  2. Giant thought
    Giant thought 26 February 2016 16: 06
    +4
    The pro-Western economic liberals in Kazakhstan were cut off by oxygen, and here you have the first successes.
    1. MASK
      MASK 26 February 2016 16: 17
      +5
      Quote: Giant thought
      The pro-Western economic liberals in Kazakhstan were cut off by oxygen, and here you have the first successes.

      I doubt it .. Kazakhstan is taking advantage of the moment (like Belarus.) Moreover, they contacted Israel .. (they gathered to sell tanks with Israeli canopies, etc.)) do not mind, well done! But then the "brothers" will have to pay for everything ...
      1. Penelope
        Penelope 26 February 2016 16: 19
        +1
        Now we need to adopt the Kazakhstani experience
        1. Jan Krumins
          Jan Krumins 26 February 2016 17: 16
          -2
          How to milk Russia?
      2. Jan Krumins
        Jan Krumins 26 February 2016 17: 19
        -2
        From Kazakhs, like from black sheep only tufts of wool?
        1. le-s-ha
          le-s-ha 26 February 2016 18: 57
          +1
          It is quite obvious that the latter benefits much more from the friendship between Russia and Kazakhstan, only Russia's concern for the defense capability of Kazakhstan is just a gift (for example, I am gnawed by doubts about the possibility of acquiring S-300 complexes by "prosperous" Kazakhstan for "cash" even in this " tired "state, and then rolled off the stocks of the RF Ministry of Defense for free). But Russia also has its own profit, it is a rather long buffer zone, and what no sales market for its goods, and even the fact that the neighbor is simply not hostile is not bad
      3. le-s-ha
        le-s-ha 26 February 2016 19: 31
        +3
        In the light of Russia's intervention in the conflict in Syria, the silence of Kazakhstan, Belarus and other CSTO members causes some bewilderment, is this organization really so "for show" exists and why does it not participate with Russia at least fictitiously (not a single mention of even the moral support of an ally in media did not come across)
        1. Reklastik
          Reklastik 26 February 2016 21: 31
          +1
          The Collective Security Treaty Organization (CSTO) for the protection of its member states seems to have been created. And so yes, it is not clear why Belarus and Kazakhstan are silent. Although, maybe they secretly support the Russian Federation?
          1. le-s-ha
            le-s-ha 26 February 2016 21: 47
            0
            The Americans and Georgians outside NATO are quite pulled up to sing along in the Middle East, and there are no one else in Syria and Iraq. The Collective Security Treaty Organization could at least help symbolically, well, a dozen special forces should be sent to guard the base, because the silence is complete, I doubt that they at least went bankrupt
          2. Talgat
            Talgat 26 February 2016 22: 10
            +3
            With aggression against any CSTO country, the rest enter the war. that is, if NATO crosses the borders of Belarus for example, then the rest. including Russia. Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, and others are at war

            In Syria, the situation is different - and Russia has enough resources. There is no need to involve Kazakh pilots or Belarusians there. on the contrary, they leave Kazakhstan (this is not the first time, by the way, such a situation - I remember that Hollande flew here, and in general, according to the tradition of the KZ, this is a channel of communication with Turkey, and Belarus and Ukraine - war is war, but negotiations are still necessary) as a possible window of dialogue in case of confrontation with Turkey for example

            I went to the news sites - offhand several examples of the KZ position:

            http://putin24.info/nazarbaev-prizval-putina-ne-poddavatsya-na-spekulyatsii-po-s

            irii.html: "... President of Kazakhstan Nursultan Nazarbayev supported Russia's actions in Syria

            http://thisentry.ru/entry/270042: "...Назарбаев: Необходимо отказаться от санкций против России
            President of Kazakhstan Nursultan Nazarbayev called on Europe to abandon anti-Russian sanctions, because this will not force Russia to turn off its chosen political course. President of Kazakhstan Nursultan Nazarbayev gives an interview to the French newspaper Le Figaro ...

            Nazarbayev: interference in Syrian affairs led to refugee crisis
            Intervention in Syrian affairs by other states, contrary to all international agreements, has led to today's refugee crisis, Kazakhstan President Nursultan Nazarbayev said

            The head of Kazakhstan called on Europe to abandon sanctions against Russia
            President Nazarbayev outlined his position in an interview with the French newspaper Le Figaro. Europe should not support the sanctions regime against Russia. Such a statement was made the day before, on October 8, by the President of Kazakhstan, Nursultan Nazarbayev, in an interview with ...

            Nazarbayev calls on EU to lift sanctions on Russia
            Kazakh President Nursultan Nazarbayev called on European countries to lift sanctions against Russia. In an interview with the French newspaper Figaro, the text of which is quoted by the Central Communications Service of Kazakhstan, Nazarbayev said: "Europe is not following ...

            http://udf.by/news/world/98314-kazahstan-podderzhal-prisoedinenie-kryma-k-rossii

            .html: "... Kazakhstan perceived the March 16 referendum in Crimea as a" free expression of the will of the population "and treats the decision of the Russian Federation with understanding.
            http://www.contact.az/docs/2014/Politics/031900073175ru.htm#.VtCfhPmLTIU
            The Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Kazakhstan said it was sympathetic to Russia's decision to join Crimea.

            I’ll also add about the BISAM survey - it clearly shows that 80% of the inhabitants of the KZ directly stand on the side of Russia
            1. le-s-ha
              le-s-ha 26 February 2016 22: 44
              -2
              So not about that speech a little. It doesn't hurt the Americans, and they need the French and other Georgians in the Middle East by their side, they coped quite well on their own, moreover, without these "crutches" under their feet they figured out their goals much faster. But all their "allies" were involved in the distillation. And in Syria, Russia is blown away in one, the allies did not even go broke for a box of dry rations. Specifically in Kazakhstan, we can assume that they were afraid of discontent from Turkey. The links you cited reflect nothing more than Nazarbayev's views on the situation, if support were provided to Russia and its policies, it would look somewhat different. And the fact that God forbid a military conflict would arise on the border of Kazakhstan and pilot Oleg Peshkov of the SU-24 shot down over Syria might have to defend our lives with you, let's not notice, for Kazakhstan, friendship with Turkey is much more important. I exaggerated, but the position of Belarus, Kazakhstan and other allies look exactly like this
  3. RUSS
    RUSS 26 February 2016 16: 09
    +3
    Time will tell ... who is who.
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  5. Lanista
    Lanista 26 February 2016 16: 11
    +7
    Pffff ...
    Tell you how many RUSSIAN enterprises are nominally registered in Kazakhstan?
    There are simply really better conditions for business, + Kazakhstan is a member of the CU, so I won’t be surprised if soon twenty percent of the Rosbusiness business nominally go there.
  6. EFA
    EFA 26 February 2016 16: 12
    +2
    Joking as a joke, and Kazakhstan has begun to produce a lot of things recently, and the Giant agrees with the above thoughts, the pro-Western ones (idealizing the liberalization of the economy) were really strangled there. Colleagues (the branch we have there) say that life has become better, life has become more fun - without a share of sarcasm.

    They now have it there as in Russia in 2006-2008.
  7. iliitchitch
    iliitchitch 26 February 2016 16: 21
    +1
    Yes, everything will be fine with us. Let them scream that we are all delayed ..., the caravan is on its way. You read all sorts of alarmists, and you think, but somehow I still haven’t died? Well, there’s nothing left, and there’s nothing to eat, and there are only enemies in governments, but we live in spite of everything. The alarmists in the war are shot, actually.
  8. engineer74
    engineer74 26 February 2016 16: 21
    +7
    Unfortunately, there are no universal recipes for any country ... The Kazakhs can only wish further success, but we still have to find our way! We have problems only with the "pathfinders" ...
  9. Oznob
    Oznob 26 February 2016 16: 24
    +2
    Why did I read this, all the same in the economy, how do I understand a pig in oranges? wassat
    1. MASK
      MASK 26 February 2016 18: 09
      -1
      Quote: Oznob
      Why did I read this, all the same in the economy, how do I understand a pig in oranges? wassat

      Such articles should be read ... At the right time "will pop up in memory".!
  10. vladimirvn
    vladimirvn 26 February 2016 16: 26
    +5
    Here colleagues from Kazakhstan wrote that Kazakhstan is ahead of everyone in drawing up unrealizable plans.
    1. le-s-ha
      le-s-ha 26 February 2016 18: 05
      +4
      Beautiful statistics figures warm the souls of officials. For example, in 2006 we built the Biochem plant for the production of biofuel (the first in the CIS) in our North Kazakhstan region, President Nursultan Nazarbayev was present at the opening, by the way, one of the creditors was the Russian Alfa-Bank. During the year of operation, the plant sold only 4 thousand tons of bioethanol with an annual production capacity of 60 thousand tons. As a result, Biochem was included in the list of the most malicious tax and wage debtors. Debts amounted to tens of millions of tenge. In February 2012, the company went bankrupt. And how much hype was at the beginning. And such examples, unfortunately, approximately 90% of all investment projects, open with fanfare, report on their successes, and as a result, only beautiful statistics from the project remain
  11. friend of animals
    friend of animals 26 February 2016 16: 27
    +2
    This rarely happens, but sometimes the monarchs in old age have a desire to do something good for the country. But what will happen when the khan leaves the throne or survives from the mind? After all, political stability and the implementation of reforms rests on one person. Therefore, I am not inclined to exaggerate the achievements of Kazakhstan, however, Russia expects the same thing - all hope for Putin 30 years ahead.
    1. Denis56rus
      Denis56rus 26 February 2016 16: 49
      +3
      Gas there costs 6 rubles automobile unit 18 rubles 40 liters filled 250 rubles and 750 rubles gas and diesel cheaper relatives were buying prior 200000 thousand their two hundred state gave without interest on housing just the same 500000 your astal state interest-free gave from Aktobe to Almaty a continuous construction of 2500 km of roads where you are so they build there Nazarbayev with a howling people Likes the differences from our mudazhonov
  12. Obama
    Obama 26 February 2016 16: 35
    +1
    By the name of the afftor it is clear why this article is)) interesting, he himself lives in the prosperous steppes, or in hell in backward Russia?
    1. iliitchitch
      iliitchitch 26 February 2016 16: 46
      +1
      Quote: Obama
      By the name of the afftor it is clear why this article is)) interesting, he himself lives in the prosperous steppes, or in hell in backward Russia?


      And your nickname is gorgeous, colleague. About Kazakhstan - having natural resources, and behind our well-intentioned back, why not prosper, let all kinds of Germans and Italians work ... I know what I'm talking about.
    2. friend of animals
      friend of animals 26 February 2016 16: 46
      +1
      Successful people in backward countries do not live, they only earn there.
  13. surovts.valery
    surovts.valery 26 February 2016 16: 38
    +5
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    They have big problems and do not have to rely on; just one article does not make clear who.

    I want to confirm that this is from a series of "unambiguous", "I myself am Russian, daughter of a Kazakh", etc.
    But in fact, they really have big problems. And especially with the Russians, I really communicate with relatives from Alma-Ata for the past six months. It seems to be provided, work, etc., but they want to bring down from there very, very. The first problem is the Russians, the second is the economy. But they cannot banally leave because they cannot sell their house, and even more so not because of some national intrigues, but because of economic problems (there is no demand). And the Russians from Kazakhstan both fled and fled.
    ,
    1. ashat2906
      ashat2906 26 February 2016 17: 06
      +5
      there are problems everywhere: abandoning, selling a house, work, habitual environment and looking for the best share of happiness in Russia, in Europe or the Americas, probably this is their choice, God take off
      1. Lone wolf
        Lone wolf 26 February 2016 17: 28
        +1
        Quote: ashat2906
        there are problems everywhere: abandoning, selling a house, work, habitual environment and looking for the best share of happiness in Russia, in Europe or the Americas, probably this is their choice, God take off

        As the saying goes .... everywhere is good where we are not ...
        1. Kasym
          Kasym 26 February 2016 19: 38
          0
          Emigration to the Russian Federation is about 30 people a year. Based on the population (000mil.) It is about 17%. A lot or not - judge for yourself. hi
  14. 3vs
    3vs 26 February 2016 16: 41
    +7
    But they want, they say, to change the guest, so that bread can be made from feed grain,
    which cattle do!
    Good for green papers will be sold abroad, and we will eat such,
    and then from good grain a little bread turns out for the Russians ... angry
    1. velikoros-xnumx
      velikoros-xnumx 27 February 2016 01: 44
      +2
      Quote: 3vs
      But they want to, they say, change the guest, so that bread can be made from feed grain, which can be made for cattle!

      So they did and do, though behind the scenes. High gluten winter wheat is a top export commodity. A good article on foreign exchange earnings, especially against the background of oil and gas prices. And his people eat from spring, suitable only for fodder.
  15. sanyavolhv
    sanyavolhv 26 February 2016 16: 44
    0
    health
    the author already in the title showed his not understanding of the meaning of words. PROGMATISM IS ALSO IDEALOGY. although kamu, what's the difference ....? minus.
  16. ibu355yandex.ru
    ibu355yandex.ru 26 February 2016 16: 47
    +1
    Well, where we do not. But on the other hand, our liberal government is good for nothing !!! Drive them all with a broom! Is it really impossible to find a hundred sane people with work experience, with fantasies, with absurd thoughts, finally. Bring them into one team in one place, and let them plow, as prominent people of their time plowed in "sharashki" in their time.
  17. Jan Krumins
    Jan Krumins 26 February 2016 17: 13
    -4
    And at whose expense are the Kazakhs going to "increase" GDP? As always - at the expense of Russia?
  18. le-s-ha
    le-s-ha 26 February 2016 17: 19
    +9
    I read the article, I liked it. It’s just not clear why such a story was published on VO, it would be much better if such a text would be perceived on sites where they write about an alternative story or, at worst, fantasy
    1. MASK
      MASK 26 February 2016 17: 29
      -1
      Quote: le-s-ha
      I read the article, I liked it. It’s just not clear why such a story was published on VO, it would be much better if such a text would be perceived on sites where they write about an alternative story or, at worst, fantasy

      However, they check the reaction .. And that's it!
  19. Victorio
    Victorio 26 February 2016 17: 29
    0
    Well, where we do not
  20. R-22
    R-22 26 February 2016 17: 29
    0
    I don’t know the truth in the article or not, but we need an industrial upsurge and the first thing the government needs is to ensure the revival of heavy engineering and agriculture, and only the STATE and on conditions of state property and full state control and management, and not private capital.
  21. Vad
    Vad 26 February 2016 17: 54
    +4
    Of course, it’s flattering for Kazakhstan ..... But it’s not so simple, the economy will grow when we ourselves start doing everything ..... Won milk will be more expensive and the most interesting because of imported raw materials per container https://www.google.kz /url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://ustinka.kz/kazakhstan
    % 2B / oblast / moloko-kotoroe-i-bez-togo-v-kazakhstane-nedeshevoe-mozhet-podorozhat /
    &ved=0ahUKEwiB_-zc1pXLAhWObZoKHbizA9gQqQIIHigAMAE&usg=AFQjCNGm1rcetUJ9X0AtnJfWue
    U76uJGVQ&sig2=sEphUYkGOVN3UkQ0YmRs2w
  22. Alex Xorkam
    Alex Xorkam 26 February 2016 18: 00
    +6
    The activities of the Government of the Russian Federation are below all criticism, but Kazakhstan should be praised carefully. The English judicial system is not as good as it seems at first glance. Remember the nonsense of an English judge in the Litvinenko case, a Russian judge, with all the shortcomings of the Russian legal proceedings, would never have made a statement in the case without a trial. To launch Western capital in the country under current conditions, which is not provided with anything, it is necessary with great caution. It is not difficult to sell the country, it is difficult to ensure development and ensure sovereignty.
  23. weksha50
    weksha50 26 February 2016 18: 30
    +6
    "Kazakhstan, becoming an even more reliable partner of international business, is turning into a platform for the implementation of modern industrial projects"...

    Hmm ... After reading the entire article and pulling out exactly THIS phrase, I would like to ask the author: "Why did he keep silent about the fact that Kazakhstan will become a hostage of foreign capital at the same time ???" ...

    Surrender to slavery is easy, but breaking out of it is sooooo problematic ...

    PS Whoever says anything about the negative aspects inherent in the USSR, I can say one thing: together we were strong. But when nationalism and the local princeliness in the ass leapt up - not only did they destroy such a huge and powerful country, they still failed to maintain friendship and good neighborliness together, which created a lot of problems in each individual new state ...

    And now they are breaking us one by one, breaking them by all means, not washing - so skating ...

    And after all, ordinary people understand this all, but at the top - no, because there, at the top, there is no common sense, but there are only ambitions ...

    PS Speaking about Kazakhstan, you involuntarily think about the fact that we are friends today, while the wise Nazarbayev is at the helm, and even then he left Turkey before us in priority relations ... And what will happen when another clan comes to power ??? Yes, the same thing as with Ukraine, if not worse ... And the territorial problems, by the way, are very similar ...
    1. Talgat
      Talgat 26 February 2016 20: 03
      +3
      Quote: weksha50
      And what will happen when another clan comes to power ??? Yes, the same as with Ukraine, if not worse ...


      Unreal

      Come chat with people

      The vast majority of Kazakhs are very warm to both Russians and Russia (especially since Russia is also Tuva and Altai - the ancestral home. And relatives of the Tatars and Bashkirs, etc.) Kazakhs are generally internationalists - and Kazakhstan is a multinational country
      1. le-s-ha
        le-s-ha 26 February 2016 20: 25
        -1
        Kazakhstan has never had problems with the Russian population, the share of the Russian population is not as significant as in the 90s, and the desire to change something for the better in the country of residence (Kazakhstan) is orders of magnitude less than the desire to emigrate to neighboring Russia. Nazarbayev is far from young, and what will be difficult to predict after him, a scenario is quite likely when Western Kazakhstan (where the main oil-producing fields are located and from where the lion's share of all budget revenues comes from) with the words "enough to feed Kazakhstan" will send the rest of the country three letters
        1. Talgat
          Talgat 26 February 2016 20: 43
          +3
          Quote: le-s-ha
          a scenario is likely when western Kazakhstan (where the main oil-producing fields are located and from where the lion's share of all budget revenues comes from) with the words "enough to feed Kazakhstan" will send the rest of the country in three letters


          The separatism of the west of Kazakhstan is exaggerated - it is rather at the level of everyday jokes and conversations. Moreover, now everything is mixed up - people go to work from one region to another - and in the west they are now working from Almaty and Chimkent too. Astana in general is a team "hodgepodge"

          This is not close to Kurdistan and the Uyghurs in China - although even China will never let them separate

          Kazakhs are still one nation. and in a difficult moment, for example, the Dzungarian invasion, all Kazakhs from the west and even from the Volga came to the rescue. Kazakhstan will remain united and successfully integrate into the common EAC market
          1. velikoros-xnumx
            velikoros-xnumx 27 February 2016 01: 49
            +3
            Quote: Talgat
            Astana in general is a team "hodgepodge"

            Well then say about Moscow. Solyanka in vinaigrette covered with Olivier?
  24. le-s-ha
    le-s-ha 26 February 2016 18: 37
    +3
    It is worth reminding those who compare the economies of Russia and Kazakhstan (it’s not about the size of the economies, but how to correctly express them, about their effectiveness) that no one imposed any sanctions against Kazakhstan and there were no problems in foreign trade. Kazakhstan trades with anyone it wants without any problems. For example, you can buy Roshen sweets at any grocery store, on the other hand, returning to the site’s theme, how many problems did the Russian military-industrial complex suffer from trade breaks with the country 404
    1. MASK
      MASK 26 February 2016 18: 54
      -9
      Quote: le-s-ha
      It is worth reminding those who compare the economies of Russia and Kazakhstan (it’s not about the size of the economies, but how to correctly express them, about their effectiveness) that no one imposed any sanctions against Kazakhstan and there were no problems in foreign trade. Kazakhstan trades with anyone it wants without any problems. For example, you can buy Roshen sweets at any grocery store, on the other hand, returning to the site’s theme, how many problems did the Russian military-industrial complex suffer from trade breaks with the country 404

      Everything is as usual ... "How good is it for us now without Russia ...?" This is all temporary! I hope, like in the days of the USSR, they went to Kazakhstan for 100-500 km for food (produced by us) and to the Baltic states for fur coats and shoes ... You got us already "brothers" "
      1. le-s-ha
        le-s-ha 26 February 2016 19: 10
        +5
        Unfortunately, I do not know the cases "like in the days of the USSR they traveled to Kazakhstan for 100-500 km for food (produced by us), but it was not easy to buy products from, say," Petropavlovsk cannery "in Petropavlovsk itself. And there was even a legend about PKZ products. In 1966, an elderly man entered the All-Union Research Institute of the Canning Industry and put a can of canned food on the table with the inscription “Petropavlovsk Cannery. Stewed meat. 1916 ". The owner of this bank received it at the front during the First World War. The analysis and tasting carried out by scientists showed that the stew was perfectly preserved, despite 50 years in the jar.
      2. Mowgli
        Mowgli 26 February 2016 19: 50
        +6
        How good it is now without Russia


        What did you mean?
        If possible - with specifics.

        You got us already "brothers"


        Who is "us"?
        If you personally - we’ll survive somehow.
  25. buzerrezub
    buzerrezub 26 February 2016 19: 33
    +2
    do not write such articles on the site! Better write that the neighbor of Russia is doing badly, and if it weren’t for Russia, it would have been worse !!! I propose that you don’t write articles about Ka3akhstan at all, let’s be associated with the Russian Orthodox followers of VO as a country of shepherds, bais, khans and generally backward, retarded gg ... In general, I regret that I was not born somewhere in Tajikistan and do not sweep the streets in Russia ... Sorry in Great Russia
    1. MASK
      MASK 26 February 2016 20: 01
      -1
      Quote: buzerrezub
      Sorry in Great Russia

      Goodbye ..! We are not vindictive and generous, as always ..
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        1. MASK
          MASK 26 February 2016 21: 20
          -3
          Quote: Arbogast
          Quote: MASK
          Goodbye ..! We are not vindictive and generous, as always ..
          Meehan the little dick laughing ?! Brains are not enough to distinguish frank st

          We don't know about Mikhan ... But we understand your "banter"! All of them have been known for a long time ... We are in Russia, we just "play along" with you ... We, after all, for you "would ... s" are not trained and barbarians ..? It's just not the time!
    2. velikoros-xnumx
      velikoros-xnumx 27 February 2016 01: 54
      +3
      Quote: buzerrezub
      And in general, I regret that I was not born somewhere in Tajikistan and did not sweep the streets in Russia ... Sorry in Great Russia

      In vain so. And Russia is really great. Our history eloquently confirms this. The role that the Russians played in the formation and development of Kazakhstan can hardly be overestimated. And for cheap comments saturated with unhealthy chauvinism (I myself am a normal, moderate sovereign patriot chauvinist) do not pay attention and do not become like.
  26. le-s-ha
    le-s-ha 26 February 2016 20: 54
    +1
    Quote: Talgat
    The separatism of the west of Kazakhstan is exaggerated - it is rather at the level of everyday jokes and conversations. Moreover, now everything is mixed up - people go to work from one region to another - and in the west they are now working from Almaty and Chimkent too. Astana in general is a team "hodgepodge"

    This is not close to Kurdistan and the Uyghurs in China - although even China will never let them separate

    Kazakhs are still one nation. and in a difficult moment, for example, the Dzungarian invasion, all Kazakhs from the west and even from the Volga came to the rescue. Kazakhstan will remain united and successfully integrate into the common EAC market


    I really hope that here you are right. My opinion was formed during frequent but not prolonged business trips to western Kazakhstan, and it is quite possibly wrong. But I do not think that the events of 2011 in Zhanaozen arose from scratch, after those events I was not there, and it is quite possible that after the death of 15 people during the riots they began to love Nazarbayev more, during my visits until 2011, I had never heard in western Kazakhstan, not a single good word about Nazarbayev and his policies
  27. Slavaf80
    Slavaf80 26 February 2016 21: 18
    +4
    Not everything is so smooth and stable in the Republic of Kazakhstan, unfortunately! I live and work in the Republic of Kazakhstan myself and am a citizen of the Republic of Kazakhstan! The author writes and does not take into account either the economy or the mentality! We have problems worse than yours! Plus the outflow of the Russian-speaking population! And talking about corruption is not a hunt, my head hurts from such lawlessness! There is a positive! While Nazarbayev is sitting there is some kind of stability, but in general it gets harder every year! Who cares, I can describe in detail our difficulties!
    1. MASK
      MASK 26 February 2016 21: 36
      -1
      Quote: SlavaF80
      Not everything is so smooth and stable in the Republic of Kazakhstan, unfortunately! I live and work in the Republic of Kazakhstan myself and am a citizen of the Republic of Kazakhstan! The author writes and does not take into account either the economy or the mentality! We have problems worse than yours! Plus the outflow of the Russian-speaking population! And talking about corruption is not a hunt, my head hurts from such lawlessness! There is a positive! While Nazarbayev is sitting there is some kind of stability, but in general it gets harder every year! Who cares, I can describe in detail our difficulties!

      I think it’s not worth it ..! Those who want to know know ...
      And in short, then again (Bai and Basmachi) already specifically! Yurts again will begin in most areas (where there is no oil and gas)
  28. Kadex
    Kadex 26 February 2016 21: 22
    +3
    About a friend, either bad or nothing ...
  29. Vad
    Vad 27 February 2016 04: 57
    +1
    http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:http://tengrinews.kz/privat
    e_finance / kazahstane-podorojali-otechestvennoe-moloko-molochnyie-289528 /
  30. pts-m
    pts-m 27 February 2016 10: 01
    0
    as they say ... it was smooth on paper, but they forgot about the ravines ... interesting. why Russia writes off debts to Kakzastan, but no one writes off a cent to Russia.
  31. Alekst
    Alekst 27 February 2016 10: 13
    +1
    I won’t say anything about the article, I didn’t understand anything at all)) but about the comments it’s always interesting, it seems that some gentlemen take the last piece of bread, they have the worst comments ... rightly one said here - consider that we live in yurts Well and further down the list, depending on the power of imagination ...
  32. Earnest
    Earnest 27 February 2016 10: 52
    +1
    Quote: velikoros-xnumx
    Quote: Kasym
    In Alma-Ata, a solemn procession of thousands of soldiers "we are millions of Panfilov members", dedicated to 75 years, was held. victory near Moscow. A week earlier, here (a monument to the Panfilov heroes in the park of the same name) they handed over the standard of the International watch in memory of "There are millions of Panfilovites" to the representatives of growing up. the city of Yekaterinburg.

    Frankly speaking, this news was very encouraging. It would be nice for us to stir up the "otvetka" too.

    It is not required to "stir up the answer". The event, although not promoted on the central TV channels, is well-known in the provinces. How it all began - here http://topwar.ru/84947-panfilovcy-vstrechay-podkreplenie.html.