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Expert: impressed by the Russian "Caliber", the Pentagon is asking for money for new missiles

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The draft US military budget for 2017 g provides for a reduction in the cost of a number of new weapons, with the exception of anti-ship missiles, according to an article by military expert David Ax, published by Reuters.




"This speaks of the US desire to surpass the achievements of Russia and China and shift the balance of forces at sea to their advantage," leads RIA News opinion of the author.

After the collapse of the USSR, the American fleet did not update its anti-ship arsenal.

“Confident that battles at sea have entered history, The US Navy wrote off all Tomahawk anti-ship missiles and removed the Harpoons from a multitude of ships and airplanes, writes Ex. “As a result, a breach appeared in the US naval power.” The American ships could well hit targets on land, but were powerless on the high seas. ”

Meanwhile, the Russian Federation and the People's Republic of China equipped their ships and airplanes with the latest missiles, which "in terms of range and destructive power are superior to the American" Harpoons "."

“In particular, the Russian Caliber is capable of covering distances over 600 km and developing a supersonic speed. Because of their high range in comparison with the Harpoons, the American forces were in an extremely disadvantageous position, ”the publication says.

In response to the current situation, the Pentagon in the draft budget proposed to procure new 3-x anti-ship missiles “with improved parameters in range, speed, and destructive power.”

According to the agency, "The US Department of Defense intends to purchase ten long-range AGM-158C LRASM anti-ship missiles worth 30 million dollars and one hundred modernized Tomahawks for 187 million dollars."

In addition, the newspaper notes, "the purchase of 125 anti-aircraft missiles SM-6, which can be programmed for use against ships, has also been included in the draft budget." To the American treasury, these missiles will cost $ 501 million.
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Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation
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  1. Pravdarm
    Pravdarm 24 February 2016 14: 58
    41
    Damn, how small children! As soon as they see something, they whine at once: "Buy! Well, buy-aaaaaa! laughing
    1. Samen
      Samen 24 February 2016 15: 02
      14
      they are children !!!
      1. Zoldat_A
        Zoldat_A 24 February 2016 15: 06
        11
        Quote: Semen
        Damn, how small children! As soon as they see something, they whine at once: "Buy! Well, buy-aaaaaa!

        They had to be impressed once - by the Banner of Victory over the Reichstag. And after that, you can ask for money as much as you want for a war with Russia - it will still not be enough ...
        1. cniza
          cniza 24 February 2016 15: 28
          +6
          Well, they said no arms race, only we will not make any more mistakes of the USSR.
          1. Victorio
            Victorio 24 February 2016 15: 44
            0
            Quote: cniza
            Well, they said no arms race, only we will not make any more mistakes of the USSR.

            ===
            unless they throw some money into the American economy
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    2. vlad66
      vlad66 24 February 2016 15: 05
      14
      Quote: Pravdarm
      Damn, how small children! As soon as they see something, they whine at once: "Buy! Well, buy-aaaaaa! laughing

      Yes, in the US Congress there is an old man who fell into childhood, and John McCain, who sat in a Vietnamese pit, sleeps and sees evil Russia, but at the same time he wants to warm his hands.
      1. Zoldat_A
        Zoldat_A 25 February 2016 07: 23
        +1
        Quote: vlad66
        sitting in a vietnam pit John McCain

        Not really, he was sitting in a pit. He was held at a hospital in Hanoi. In pretty tolerable conditions. And what is most interesting - TREATED! And the vietas were treated not all, but only those who agreed to cooperate. For example, one American sergeant was treated for the fact that he "transmitted information" to his own, and then begged a rescue team to save himself. They put the team in a minute and a half, rescued Private Ryan, the clowns ... And they believed about the "information" for four months, as if a sergeant from Oklahoma in four months of captivity managed to establish an agent network in Vietnam ... I am not so naive even in American cinema saw. I don't know how the Ho Chi Minh Order didn't give him the Vieta ... laughing And they treated that sergeant well - they saved a leg ....
    3. Lord of the Sith
      Lord of the Sith 24 February 2016 15: 10
      +1
      Late combed, missiles, aircraft and navy. It has long been necessary to advance in this matter, especially in anti-ship and cruise missiles.
      1. NEXUS
        NEXUS 24 February 2016 19: 03
        +2
        Quote: Lord of the Sith
        Late combed, missiles, aircraft and navy. It has long been necessary to advance in this matter, especially in anti-ship and cruise missiles.

        We would not have to slow down the pace of new developments that we have, and in spite of the adversary to move forward, without waiting until he catches up. To do this, speed up the process of transferring new systems to the troops, without compromising on the quality of the products.
        But creating a new CD is not so simple, and there is not much heap of money for this ...
    4. Blondy
      Blondy 24 February 2016 15: 48
      +1
      Is it just amazing that they found themselves so late, or did someone expect a different reaction from the Pentagon?
    5. Kent0001
      Kent0001 24 February 2016 15: 48
      +1
      Another American cut is coming.
      1. cap
        cap 24 February 2016 17: 38
        +1
        sawed
        Quote: Kent0001
        Another American cut is coming.

        Quote: fox21h
        Our cruisers at 18 will begin to put hypersound, so good luck with the dough.


        And what ...? have something to cut? but not late?
        1. APASUS
          APASUS 24 February 2016 18: 52
          0
          Quote: cap
          And what ...? have something to cut? but not late?

          I think it’s not too late, now the U.S. Congress will resemble a powder keg. Most American media will weep for fear of the unpredictable Putin and the militarist Shoigu. They will demand money for everything from rations to bombers. If you look at such materials, they are written one-sidedly.
          For example, the materials when comparing "Bradley" and BMP 3 are based only on the caliber of the gun and this has already given the right to demand the allocation of additional funds for modernization
  2. fox21h
    fox21h 24 February 2016 14: 58
    +1
    Our cruisers at 18 will begin to put hypersound, so good luck with the dough.
  3. raid14
    raid14 24 February 2016 15: 00
    +5
    "Whatever this child does not amuse himself, if only the whole world does not shit."
  4. serg1970
    serg1970 24 February 2016 15: 01
    16
    To prove the threat, a promising map of the region from the General Staff of the RF Armed Forces downloaded from social networks was also provided (clickable)
    1. Igor V
      Igor V 24 February 2016 15: 09
      +3
      "Batkivshchyna" does not fit, we will have to divide up its western neighbor again. wink
      1. Baikonur
        Baikonur 24 February 2016 15: 12
        +2
        Wahahaha !!!
        Neighing from the heart !!!
        I almost got it!
        Huge Baikonur in the center was especially pleased !!!
        +100500+!
        I’ll save the map. In memory and just in case!
    2. Zoldat_A
      Zoldat_A 24 February 2016 15: 14
      +9
      Quote: serg1970
      To prove the threat, a promising map of the region from the General Staff of the RF Armed Forces was also provided.

      In fact, there is another map in the General Staff of the RF Armed Forces. In case of war with the USA. The final phase of the conflict ...
      1. i80186
        i80186 24 February 2016 15: 27
        +5
        Quote: Zoldat_A
        In fact, there is another map in the General Staff of the RF Armed Forces. In case of war with the USA.

        Yeah. There is even a whole device. laughing
        1. Igor V
          Igor V 24 February 2016 19: 53
          +2
          So this is what it means to "put with the device" good
        2. Igor V
          Igor V 24 February 2016 19: 53
          0
          So this is what it means to "put with the device" good
    3. hobot
      hobot 24 February 2016 15: 50
      +1
      I looked at the map - if Turkey is drowned, a good sea will turn out.
  5. AlexTires
    AlexTires 24 February 2016 15: 06
    0
    Catching up is always more difficult, you can earn a hernia ...
  6. A-Sim
    A-Sim 24 February 2016 15: 10
    +3
    ten long-range anti-ship missiles, type AGM-158C LRASM
    and one hundred modernized "Tomahawks"

    ... so much then?
  7. genisis
    genisis 24 February 2016 15: 13
    +1
    This Caliber Pentagon impressed.
    If you believe this or that publication in the press, by 2020 there will already be anti-ship hypersound in Russians.
    1. aleks 62 next
      aleks 62 next 24 February 2016 16: 12
      0
      .... If you believe here and there in publications in the press, by 2020 there will already be anti-ship hypersound in Russians ....


      .... If this hypersound, but at a distance of 1500 km .... It would be another matter .... lol
      1. genisis
        genisis 24 February 2016 22: 57
        0
        According to the Gauges, I remember, too, here and there they wrote 300 km, but it withered)
  8. Dr. Barmaley
    Dr. Barmaley 24 February 2016 15: 15
    +1
    impressed by the Russian "Caliber" Pentagon asks for money for new missiles


    When the Pentagon receives the money, you need to give it to the Russian military-industrial complex. The Russians will make a new, even more powerful weapon. And then the Pentagon can be asked for even more money. And so in a circle.
  9. Benya krik
    Benya krik 24 February 2016 15: 17
    -3
    To surpass our "caliber", mattress makers need to spend money, like on a stealth project !!! Now it's not a cold war and there is no USSR, and therefore - who the hell will give so much money.
    1. owl
      owl 24 February 2016 15: 35
      +1
      Quote: Benya krik
      To surpass our "caliber", mattress makers need to spend

      I've been looking for everything and can't find those parameters of the rocket (the "conception" of which goes back to the relatively distant eighties), which are not given to the Americans! Maybe you will be the one to explain this?
      1. Benya krik
        Benya krik 24 February 2016 20: 57
        -2
        Read carefully, (you are my enlightened) ... I wrote to surpass, not repeat our "caliber", ie to create something new, superior to everything created earlier than the "tomahawk" was in its time. And if it comes to that, the "caliber", in contrast to the "tomahawk", can be based on a lot more varied and judging by accuracy "tomahawk" (Yugoslavia, Iraq) our missiles are one step higher!
        1. owl
          owl 24 February 2016 22: 08
          +1
          Quote: Benya krik
          Read it carefully

          Stop "shaggy grandma" if you do not think in Chinese, but at the same time write "in Russian letters" then the context of your writing sounds like transport and nothing else "To surpass our "caliber", mattress makers need to spend money, like on a stealth project. "from my sedava to you (enlightened) double two: what is the superiority of (missiles 3M-14E)the points??

          Quote: Benya krik
          And if it comes to that, the "caliber", in contrast to the "tomahawk", can be based on much more varied

          To be based ... where?, And accordingly where the "Tomahawk" cannot be based
          Quote: Benya krik
          and judging by the accuracy of the "tomahawk" (Yugoslavia, Iraq), our missiles are one step higher!

          For example, I always thought that for such statements it is necessary to have proven facts both when using one complex and another (and the data on the used modifications of the missiles would not hurt because, as you know smile control and guidance systems vary from modification to modification)
          Attention is the main question laughing : "per step" is how many meters?
          1. Benya krik
            Benya krik 24 February 2016 22: 58
            -3
            Don't be stupid! I beg of you ! For a long time, amers could not strain, tk. "tomahawk" remained out of reach, as soon as Russia created a "caliber" they lost their leadership in this area and, therefore, to be ahead of the planet again, all amers need to spend a lot on a new project. You are my big-eyed! How else to explain to you that to surpass is to do better! Difficult you are mine! On the account "Based where?" Quote: The Novator design bureau's breakthrough is that new cruise missiles can be installed in a conventional container and used autonomously. This radically changes the strategy of both attack and deterrence. There are a myriad of such containers in any seaport. It is practically impossible to determine in which one of the hundreds of containers the Caliber complex is installed inside.
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  11. Dimontius
    Dimontius 24 February 2016 15: 20
    +3
    I caught myself thinking: what if the card that is laid out on top really matches my personal perception? Can I be considered an expansionist, imperialist and revanchist? request
    1. Samen
      Samen 24 February 2016 15: 51
      0
      Can I be considered an expansionist, imperialist and revanchist? request

      You can!
      Congratulations on joining our close ranks, Captain! soldier
      1. starper
        starper 25 February 2016 05: 16
        +1
        And now, together to the psychator, step, march.
  12. beer-youk
    beer-youk 24 February 2016 15: 20
    +2
    Quote: raid14
    Whatever this kid is amusing,


    ... just to hang yourself !!!
  13. V.ic
    V.ic 24 February 2016 15: 22
    0
    And how many "snacks" were destroyed under contracts with sworn "partners" ... There is no "mattress" any faith.
  14. valent45
    valent45 24 February 2016 15: 23
    +1
    We urgently need money for another cut. Well, as usual, you need to scare the allies and vassals
    another threat. Well, how without it? negative
  15. Engineer
    Engineer 24 February 2016 15: 35
    +3
    Well done iki - they use any occasion that is more or less suitable for intimidation of taxpayers by knocking out money another wunderwafer.
  16. MASK
    MASK 24 February 2016 15: 48
    -2
    Yes, with "Calibers" Russia has brought the schukher into the world! How many more "surprises"?
  17. RomanS
    RomanS 24 February 2016 15: 52
    +1
    The draft budget also included purchases of 125 SM-6 anti-aircraft missiles, which can be programmed to be used against ships
    SM series missiles are used in pro mobile systems. The United States officially recognized that this type of missile represents, among other things, shock capabilities.
  18. hobot
    hobot 24 February 2016 15: 56
    -2
    After 91 years they relaxed, which is fraught with world geopolitics. And now - they will not catch up with us.
    1. owl
      owl 24 February 2016 16: 06
      +1
      Quote: hobot
      . And now - they will not catch up with us.

      Who is this, and in what they will not catch you ???
  19. LPD17
    LPD17 24 February 2016 16: 43
    +1
    calm down citizens
    you will finance it
    "in December 2015, Russia again increased its investments in US Treasury bonds - by $ 4,1 billion. In total, therefore, the Russian Federation is the owner of $ 92,1 billion of the US government debt"
    doubts have disappeared who will pay?
  20. Denis Skiff
    Denis Skiff 24 February 2016 17: 01
    -2
    It is necessary to deliver them on their heads free of charge "Calibers".
  21. da Vinci
    da Vinci 24 February 2016 17: 07
    +2
    "In particular, Russian Calibers are capable of covering distances over 600 km and developing supersonic speed." So they seem to be subsonic! recourse
    1. owl
      owl 24 February 2016 17: 21
      0
      Quote: da Vinci
      So they like subsonic!

      "Caliber" is not the name of a specific missile (for example, 3M-14E, which is subsonic and relatively long-range relative to relatives), this is the name FAMILIES rockets!
  22. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 24 February 2016 17: 22
    0
    The SAM / S-6 anti-aircraft missile defense system has a speed of 3,5 MAX, but the radius of action is small.
    KR LRASM - stealth, but goes at near-sound speed.
    One type is indispensable.
  23. Old26
    Old26 24 February 2016 21: 07
    +2
    Quote: aleks 62 next
    .... If this hypersound, but at a distance of 1500 km .... It would be another matter ....

    And even better if it is if the speed is sublight, and the range is 1,5 billion km. am
    Damn, well, insatiable people. Or do you think that half-idiots who don’t know anything are sitting in the design bureau? Or maybe they understand what range can be obtained with such GVH?

    Quote: Benya krik
    To surpass our "caliber", mattress makers need to spend money, like on a stealth project !!! Now it's not a cold war and there is no USSR, and therefore - who the hell will give so much money.

    Well? Have you already counted how many bucks they need? Damn, the Americans have "Tomahawks", the analogue of which are "Calibers" (and only the 3M14 rocket) is currently about 5500 thousand. Already about 2000 they were used in wars. And they will make an anti-ship missile. It's just that they haven't bothered with it for the last quarter century.
    1. Benya krik
      Benya krik 24 February 2016 21: 25
      -4
      did you agree on something ... read the whole dialogue! smart ass!
      1. starper
        starper 25 February 2016 05: 24
        +1
        Benya, Benya needs to answer for the "bazaar", I know it myself :-) :-)
    2. starper
      starper 25 February 2016 05: 19
      +1
      5500 thousand ?!
  24. 8140
    8140 24 February 2016 22: 33
    +2
    Everyone probably remembers the first state operation in Iraq, like 91 years old. Massively used axes.
    Now in 2016, our aircraft have demonstrated the same capabilities.
    Delta = 25 years. Think about it, 25 years.
    Let's be realists and programmers.
    With a bang, we will tear all and inefficiencies nauseous.
  25. Skifotavr
    Skifotavr 24 February 2016 23: 18
    +1
    I'm already sick of the influx EXPERT. When I see this word - immediately there is no desire to read further.
  26. Old26
    Old26 25 February 2016 09: 21
    +1
    Quote: starper
    5500 thousand ?!

    I apologize and thank you. I didn’t notice when I wrote. I wanted to write 5,5 thousand, and mechanically wrote both 5500 and thousands.

    Quote: Benya krik
    Don't be stupid! I beg of you ! For a long time, amers could not strain, tk. "tomahawk" remained out of reach, as soon as Russia created a "caliber" they lost leadership in this area, and therefore, in order to again be ahead of the planet, all amers have to spend heavily on a new project.

    However, your concept of leadership is peculiar. In fact, this means that the other did much better, he has more of them than the one who had it before. And in this case, the Americans did not lose any leadership. There are so many "Tomahawks" (in number) that we never dreamed of. Variations of guidance systems and warheads allow solving a wide range of issues. The number of speakers is more than a hundred (compared to less than ten in our country). They already had a stealth project (for the Air Force), but at that time Russia did not pose a threat to the United States and they were simply disposed of after a certain time. Now the only thing they will spend on is new anti-ship missiles, the production of which they have not been involved in for 2 decades.

    Quote: Benya krik
    Do not be stupid! I beg of you ! You are my big-eyed! Difficult you are mine!

    Less emotion and exclamation points. From this, what you write does not become more informative

    Quote: Benya krik
    HOW to explain to you what to surpass - it means to do better!

    Perfectly. I will be glad to hear from you in what our 3M14 is superior to the American Tomahawk. In what ways have we surpassed them, so that now they must surpass us? Desirable point by point, especially with regard to guidance systems.

    Quote: Benya krik
    On the account "Based where?" Quote: The Novator design bureau's breakthrough is that new cruise missiles can be installed in a conventional container and used autonomously. This fundamentally changes the strategy of both attack and deterrence. There are a myriad of such containers in any seaport. It is almost impossible to determine in which one of the hundreds of containers the "Caliber" complex is installed inside.

    In general, it is better to read less Internet "murziloks". Then you would know that a container complex is not just a container that is put on a car, on a platform, on a ship - and forward. It is also a control system, a kind of command post (with a crew, by the way), which comes complete with a container containing missiles. This command post has its own radar, by the way, which extends out of the container and which to detect is a piece of cake. And the personnel of the KP are you also "banned" in the container for several weeks or months?
    Moreover, this is only an offer to foreign customers who cannot build and maintain their own military fleet. We have not tested this container version as far as I remember (why, I think you can guess). And they have already made a "wunderwaffe" out of him. Ask how many countries have purchased this system. And how many have been done. I can tell you that in the first and in the second case the quantity is the same.