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Revolution outlaw

Recent events require evaluation. It is impossible to be silent, it is impossible to be silent. Before our eyes, for the umpteenth time, they are trying to overthrow Russian statehood.

The state criminal who collapsed the Great Country, Mikhail Gorbachev, along with US politicians, calls on Russia to “recheck” and show “concern”. Human rights midfielders raised such a howl that would have done honor to a whole wolf pack. Everything is done almost in the open. Masks rejected.

That's good - we, too, will throw aside tolerance.
Let's put it straight - to be honest ...

It's time to end with liberalism. Until he finished with Russia. Stop nanny with those who are trying to plunge the country into civilian turmoil and war.
Let's face it, what the “oppositionists” are trying to do is an attempt at a coup d'état. Neither more nor less. Whatever they say to us, their goal is exactly that. Overthrow the power? In order to become the power!
To once again share with our foreign sponsors our wealth, our territories and our people.
It is time to sharply toughen the punishment for attempts of unauthorized processions, demonstrations and rallies. Now for the Orange is a fun game. See how happy their faces are when riot police pack them into buses.
Smiles, photos on the memory, waving handles.
A must sit.

500 or 1000 rubles fine is not a punishment for attempting to riot, it is a mockery. The mockery of common sense. Impunity is the mother of crime.

I propose a new State Duma to immediately adopt changes to the relevant legislative acts. The penalty should be increased at times.
For the first violation of the law on rallies - a fine for random violators, juvenile fools and 15 days of socially useful work for professional demonstrators, for “bulk” “yashin” and “Nemtsov”.
For repeated violation of the law - there can be no fines. Arrest on 60 day.
Let the streets sweep. Dirt will be less, and all normal residents of the country - calmer.

For the third violation of the law - 1,5 year in prison.
For the following - this is already a repeat offender - from 1,5 to 5 years.
I assure you, six months after the adoption of such a law, no one will smile cheerfully and be photographed in the OMON buses. And then no one will try to carry out a coup d'etat.

Further. Very many of those who are trying to carry out a coup d'état, have foreign citizenship. There is nothing to almond here. The slightest violation of the law and a citizen of the United States, France or Israel should go home. Deportation from the country is a normal measure, which any self-respecting state is obliged to use. After that, the entry of such gentlemen to Russia should be closed. All - once and for all. Let them howl in Washington and arrange their sabbaths in front of our embassy in London.

They will come illegally through Belarus, Kazakhstan or Ukraine - it will be a good reason to confer with current or future colleagues in the Eurasian and Customs Union. And violators of immigration laws - in prison and on deportation. In case of repeated violation of the border of the Russian Federation - to give time and send to the construction of the national economy. There are now such active, just not enough.
It's time, it's time to be tough. Not cruelty, but rigidity. Hardness and determination. And the people are waiting for this.
In addition to several thousand "dissenters", the entire good hundred million Russian voters can not wait, and when power in Russia will become power!
In the United States and Great Britain for the same thing they arrest, imprison, give deadlines. And we write out 1000 rubles fine.
But the fate of the country is not a toy.

It's time to clean up. It's time to be. But now it becomes vital. We have nowhere to retreat. Enough Nadarilis, listened enough, suffered. The more we retreat, the more we whet their appetites. The current borders of Russia are very similar to those of our country in 1612. Four hundred years down the drain.

Because of these "freedom fighters".
Everything. It's time to stop. Not one step back and only forward.
Don't you like Russia? Goodbye. We have open borders.
Do you want a revolution? Good riddance to the Middle East. There are now going to "revolutionaries" from around the world.
And we in Russia do not need such happiness.
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  1. urzul
    urzul 8 December 2011 11: 36
    +6
    Thanks for the article, indeed for many rallies this entertainment
    1. ESCANDER
      ESCANDER 8 December 2011 11: 48
      +11
      There is a double edged sword.
      You just need to know the measure.
      Then we unscrew the nuts, then we twist ...
      It is necessary to tighten normally so that they do not unscrew, but also do not tear off the thread.
    2. ytqnhfk
      ytqnhfk 8 December 2011 13: 14
      +3
      Not only entertainment but also earnings! Among other things, the collapse of the state! The article is correct either there or not, but it annoys you here!
      1. Sergh
        Sergh 8 December 2011 14: 31
        +1
        Well, yes, you can see it on the rollers well, as soon as the cops are dragging someone to the bus, the correspondents flock right ahead, like flies flipping. And with cameras, soap dishes, so every second, what a show off, what a joke, I don’t understand .. I don’t understand!
        Only obviously these blogs will litter the Internet and blur the montages.
  2. 916-th
    916-th 8 December 2011 11: 39
    +10
    Many disagree with the election results, but the unrest in Moscow is a clear Western provocation. Decisive action is needed. Let's see how our ruling tandem will react.
    1. Smart today
      Smart today 8 December 2011 12: 45
      +8
      For God's sake, indicate those who do not agree with the election results, do not write indiscriminately many, do not decide for everyone, do not call names of those who have a different opinion.
      1. Ustas
        Ustas 8 December 2011 15: 21
        +4
        For God's sake, indicate those who do not agree with the election results, do not write indiscriminately many, do not decide for everyone, do not call names of those who have a different opinion.


        Well, I do not agree. Although I will not go to rallies. Only because it cannot last so long. The people are dissatisfied with the Edros, but with the Washington regional committee they are not on their way. God, he is not Proshka, he sees a little.
      2. dim
        dim 8 December 2011 16: 10
        +2
        I do not agree
      3. Cap-3 USSR
        Cap-3 USSR 9 December 2011 00: 20
        -2
        Tired of looking at spraying with saliva every time after the election. If there are serious violations, collect the evidence base and the court. Or does the opposition have neither specialists nor money for this?
        They just understand that the violations (I do not exclude that they exist) are not so significant (with evidence) that no court will take this into account and will not cancel the election results. So all that remains is to spray saliva.
        And this is repeated from time to time.
      4. 3DV
        3DV 9 December 2011 10: 50
        0
        I do not agree with the results, among my entourage I do not know anyone who would vote for United Russia, although I am sure that there are many, but not every second who came to the polls, but in our Republic of Karelia United Russia won only 32% with a turnout of only 44% (which upsets more), also in the Orenburg region I was sure of a low percentage for United Russia.
        I’m glad that the percentage of people who voted against EP turned out to be so large, and if it weren’t for evidence of fraud after counting in the precincts (observers do not seem to be participating in the CEC counting, there are no witnesses to violations), I would be happy with this signal from the authorities that changes are needed, no one wants a revolution, devastation and a new division of power, but changes are necessary and if they themselves do not want to change, they need to be forced (vote against), and I’ll go to the rally on December 10 to show that I don’t care how the elections are held next time
    2. vadimus
      vadimus 8 December 2011 12: 48
      +5
      Liberasti bred like cockroaches. If there’s crap on TV, then what else to expect ... Less movies need to be twisted Hollywood
      1. slan
        slan 8 December 2011 19: 12
        +3
        And whose television is that? Dom-2 (c) Gazprom Media
  3. wk
    wk 8 December 2011 11: 48
    +2
    Yes, at these rallies of correspondents, police and onlookers, there are more than these lovespring, They really need blood (and their own) to pump the boat under this tune.
    1. 8 December 2011 21: 50
      0
      Exactly. I think that after Saturday the top photo frame in the Western media will be a white ribbon in the blood.
  4. Andre_47
    Andre_47 8 December 2011 12: 01
    -2
    as if in the country there are not enough other problems! Of course, these are rallies, horror !!!
  5. tronin.maxim
    tronin.maxim 8 December 2011 12: 05
    +2
    Well done, the author correctly said that our government should hear it
  6. Timonf
    Timonf 8 December 2011 12: 10
    -9
    Proedrosovskaya pseudo-patriotic article. The only thing I agree with is about the Great Country of the USSR, not just now.
    1. Lech e-mine
      Lech e-mine 8 December 2011 12: 26
      +7
      podpindosnikov on the bunk! And then soon they, as in LIVIA, will begin to urge to bomb RUSSIA. It is necessary to radically suppress the benefit of historical experience.
      1. Timonf
        Timonf 8 December 2011 12: 34
        -3
        Podpindosniki have long been there, transplanted everyone for almost 15 days
        1. 8 December 2011 21: 51
          -1
          They need all for 15 years for treason. am
      2. lightforcer
        lightforcer 8 December 2011 21: 08
        +1
        there is historical experience.

        1905, 1917, 1993.
        1. SL.Kocegar
          SL.Kocegar 10 December 2011 12: 46
          0
          Lost 1985 and 1991
  7. Dante193
    Dante193 8 December 2011 12: 13
    +2
    our government is too mild about this, fearing criticism from the alliance while pendosy rallies with batons do not disperse, not really worrying about what they think about them!
    1. Timonf
      Timonf 8 December 2011 12: 16
      -2
      Yes, and they disperse with the help of batons. There is no need to exalt them here.
    2. Kite
      Kite 8 December 2011 13: 05
      +5
      More recently there was a report from the Franco-German border. There, the police dispersed demonstrators on the way of a train carrying spent nuclear fuel. Well, how "democratic" the German police treated the stubborn demonstrators sitting on the rails !! We must ask them to come to our tour, the OMON will learn and the radicals will remember the lesson for a long time.
      1. lightforcer
        lightforcer 8 December 2011 21: 16
        -7
        The thing is that France is exporting nuclear waste to other countries (mainly to Russia, of course). Transit goes through Germany. The Germans really do not like the waste being transported (!) Through their territory. They love their country. And you absolutely do not care that these wastes are stored on our territory or that the elections are faked. Give you all the great Russia. Did you deserve it?
        1. 8 December 2011 22: 02
          +1
          Enough tryndet already, its cheap populism. am
          Nuclear waste management is a serious industry with world leaders who are very reluctant to bring new players into this market.
          One of the serious poison processors. The world's waste is France. In this case, it was she who, after processing German waste, returned them back.
          Clear?
          Those. France brings into its territory foreign waste and processes it.
          1. slan
            slan 8 December 2011 22: 10
            0
            In general, when I say "nuclear waste", "radiation", "ecology," I immediately recall perestroika, glasnost, and the struggle against privileges ..
          2. lightforcer
            lightforcer 8 December 2011 22: 38
            0
            However, France does not keep them.
        2. Kite
          Kite 8 December 2011 22: 29
          +3
          lightforcer? Well, you don’t know, don’t write like that. Only three countries possess the technology for processing spent fuel in the world, including France, but not Germany and not pendosia, in the latter they simply store it. In addition, according to international regulations, SNF must be returned to the supplier.
          But some types like to speculate on this, pretending to be defenders of the interests of the people.
          1. lightforcer
            lightforcer 8 December 2011 22: 41
            0
            Well, direct non-waste production! So why the hell do we have so many nuclear burial grounds? Our Rosatom has a recycling program, when the waste after processing can be put into circulation again. Only she is unlikely to crawl out of experimental status.
            1. Kite
              Kite 8 December 2011 23: 32
              0
              Do not substitute. Search engine: SNF, nuclear fuel cycle, plutonium and read what, how much, why.
  8. Grom512
    Grom512 8 December 2011 12: 24
    0
    A couple of comments on the essence of the article:

    1. After the expulsion of non-citizens (on our planes, after all), present to the official authorities of the country of residence an invoice for the costs of transporting their buzoters. Nefig any foreign punks for the money of Russian taxpayers roll!

    2. After the 2nd violation of the law on rallies - add to the lists of politically unreliable persons for Russia with all the ensuing restrictions on participation in public and elective activities!
  9. Timonf
    Timonf 8 December 2011 12: 32
    -1
    And by the way, the majority of those who are now going to or planning to go to peaceful sanctioned rallies are coming up with a completely legitimate demand to cancel the December 4 election results and appoint new ones. No revolution is out of the question there. Small provocateurs do not count.
    1. Smart today
      Smart today 8 December 2011 12: 39
      0
      Are there grandmas for new elections?
      1. Timonf
        Timonf 8 December 2011 12: 52
        -3
        We have a rich country, even say the richest, if necessary I think there are.
        1. Smart today
          Smart today 8 December 2011 13: 05
          +2
          The richest country agrees, but what do you own?
          1. Timonf
            Timonf 8 December 2011 13: 07
            -5
            According to the constitution, everything!
            1. Smart today
              Smart today 8 December 2011 13: 16
              -3
              Yes, then you are Khodorkovsky
              1. Timonf
                Timonf 8 December 2011 13: 28
                -3
                :) Yes, of course, everything is understood. But what do you suggest? immediately to the barricades? I think while there is an opportunity to do something in the legal field, you need to try
                1. Lech e-mine
                  Lech e-mine 8 December 2011 13: 37
                  +2
                  IN THE LEGAL FIELD, STANDING UP THE RIGHTS IS SLOW AND TAKES TIME. THEREFORE, ALWAYS THERE WISHING TO SPEED UP THE PROCESS BY USING INTERVENTION REVOLUTIONS AND WARS OF DIFFERENT CHARACTER.
                2. Smart today
                  Smart today 8 December 2011 13: 39
                  0
                  Unfortunately you are almost right, the rally of 5.12 showed that we are almost at the barricades, but comments speak about it. Read
            2. lightforcer
              lightforcer 8 December 2011 21: 18
              0
              Timonf,
              You read the Constitution inattentively wassat There is a fad that everything can be both in state ownership and in private.
    2. Lech e-mine
      Lech e-mine 8 December 2011 12: 41
      +3
      WELL CANCELED ELECTIONS AND WHAT NEXT THAN? CHOOSE ALL EQUALLY ANYONE.
      1. Neolexx1
        Neolexx1 8 December 2011 12: 46
        +1
        And there will be no one to choose from, while the authorities are spreading any opposition at the root ...
        1. Lech e-mine
          Lech e-mine 8 December 2011 12: 51
          +3
          OUR OPPOSITION IS ALL PURCHASED BY PINDOSES. SUCH OPPOSITION SHOULD BE DEPARTED ON.
        2. Smart today
          Smart today 8 December 2011 13: 45
          -1
          We found opposition, as our "Father of the People Putin" says, the guys have spent a little bit, we need money, and accordingly 30 pieces of silver have to be worked out
        3. BYRY
          BYRY 9 December 2011 00: 47
          0
          WHOM IS THIS POWER ON THE ROOT OF GNOBIT-KASPAROV, NEMTSOV, KASIANOV AND IZHE WITH THEM? VISIBLE "OPPOSITIONERS".
      2. lightforcer
        lightforcer 8 December 2011 21: 22
        +1
        Did anyone know before the 2008 elections that there is such a "Medvedev"? Or 2000, "Who is Mister Putin?"
        1. linen
          linen 8 December 2011 22: 28
          -1
          That's right, no one knew. Because he is from the EBN-Sobchak gang. And he is faithful to the gang’s precepts. He let a little fog and screeched cattle-you give stability! We put two submarines into operation in 12 years! Yes, for such loot that it helps out for natural resources, ten, no, eight times the country could be raised.
    3. dim
      dim 8 December 2011 16: 13
      +1
      speaking right
    4. slan
      slan 8 December 2011 21: 24
      +2
      I’m not against re-elections and revolutions, just hypocrisy is annoying. They would have recognized that the country was lowered to the bottom of the rating rating, otherwise they’re scamming on TV about their popular support, especially the low-minded one annoys them. Leader of the majority, damn it!
    5. 8 December 2011 22: 11
      +1
      You are mistaken, just small provocateurs and set the tone. It is they who will lead the crowd, it is them (those with whom you can’t sit next to them) that the crowd will listen to, being guided by their provocations. And their goal is clearly not to improve the political system in the country. They just use you.

      But this is not your fault, but the fault of our systemic opposition. Where are they all? Has anyone seen their performance on TV? Where did those people who positioned themselves as the most patriotic patriots in the election spots? They now need to urge their electorate not to be provoked, ignore December 10, gather in another place and at another time, thereby showing the State Department and all rats that the people are not with them.
  10. Smart today
    Smart today 8 December 2011 12: 33
    0
    Tired, it's time to wet
  11. Neolexx1
    Neolexx1 8 December 2011 12: 34
    +2
    I don’t want to offend anyone, but we were raped by edrosy and openly and insolently, and you are here arguing that you need to sit on the priest exactly ... If I lived in Moscow, I would definitely go to the rally, And I don't care who the organizer is, the main thing is the correct goal ! All our "poppazitsiya" fucking goats, quietly agreed peacefully with the results ... and ordinary people are just like you, people who are already just wahue from our government took to the streets to express their displeasure and disgust ... And tell me why is it suddenly Medveputy troops pulled up so dramatically? Is it because of the usual rally?
    1. Smart today
      Smart today 8 December 2011 12: 38
      -2
      There will be a parade
      1. Lech e-mine
        Lech e-mine 8 December 2011 12: 41
        +1
        PARADE OF GAYS SOMETHING? winked
        1. Smart today
          Smart today 8 December 2011 12: 59
          0
          Together with the police and internal forces
          1. lightforcer
            lightforcer 8 December 2011 21: 23
            -1
            That is, with gays.
    2. ytqnhfk
      ytqnhfk 8 December 2011 13: 21
      +3
      Re-election, as practice shows, is rocking the boat! By principle, we will vote until we get what others want? that is, a minority !? People wake up. NOBODY WILL BE ABLE TO TURN AGAIN. THIS WILL RESET US ONCE AGAIN 10 YEARS. IT IS NOT POSSIBLE TO GET THERE WITH YOUR COUNTRY!
      1. Timonf
        Timonf 8 December 2011 13: 33
        -2
        The re-election is legal! The proven rigging is darkness! And if there are no re-elections then the boat will swing. then the orange and red and brown scenarios of the revolution are possible.
        1. petor41
          petor41 8 December 2011 15: 16
          -5
          ALL RE-ELECTORS-GO TO P.O.P.U. The next elections to the State Duma in 2016, you have time to prepare better, join your favorite parties, campaign the people, get ready in one word. And then frankly, in these elections, they collected in the observer all the gopniks for money, who generally knew everything about what was going on and how, but there wasn’t enough money for normal advertising! How to prepare, such and received results. And accept the results of these elections as a fait accompli, whether you like it or not!
          1. lightforcer
            lightforcer 8 December 2011 20: 50
            0
            So let edro prepare better, people agitate, do real deeds. And then there will be another falsification, which will surpass this one, which in turn has already surpassed the previous ones. Went in the ass in short, putinoid. You will soon have shoulder straps with skulls, I guarantee it.

            The Constitution of the Russian Federation, article three: 1. The bearer of sovereignty and the only source of power in the Russian Federation is its multinational people.

            2. The people exercise their power directly, as well as through government bodies and local governments.

            3. The highest direct expression of the power of the people is a referendum and free elections.

            4. No one can appropriate power in the Russian Federation. The seizure of power or the appropriation of power is prosecuted under federal law.

            Are you daring who you really need to take to the jail? Indeed, according to article 15

            The Constitution of the Russian Federation has the highest legal force, direct effect and is applied throughout the territory of the Russian Federation. Laws and other legal acts adopted in the Russian Federation should not contradict the Constitution of the Russian Federation.
            1. slan
              slan 8 December 2011 21: 09
              0
              How much hatred of the current government among people and not at all among the liberals, but quite the opposite .. For the public expression of support for the EP can really be crippled.
              Really, until the next election, they will not stop stealing, do they really think that it is possible to shield themselves from the people with flashing lights?
    3. 8 December 2011 22: 24
      +3
      Are you really that naive? Or do you come out with signs "I'm not with German and bulk"? If you stood in their crowd, then you are with them. And there will be riot police provocations, there will be riots, what are you going to do? This is you, the masses, who, in general, do not want a revolution, but decided to go out with the rats and become victims of that situation, they will beat you with truncheons, not because you do not agree with the elections, but because some of them started throwing stones / cocktails Molotov to the riot police. And there will certainly be provocations, since this is the main goal of gathering several thousand people in an area that simply cannot physically accommodate so many.

      And with what fright, did you suddenly think that your goals are the same? Are you really so naive?

      And what do you want from this rally? To get your voices back? Who do you want? Zyuganov, Zhirinovsky, Mironov? Where are they? Why do not they defend your interests? Before you do something, you need to clearly understand why? and what I want to have in the end.
      1. slan
        slan 8 December 2011 22: 31
        0
        kos,
        In your opinion, it turns out that Nemtsov and Navalny are guarantors of finding EP in power))
        Let's not obey Putin, Novodvorskaya will be the president!
        1. 8 December 2011 23: 54
          0
          How so?
          1. slan
            slan 8 December 2011 23: 59
            +1
            But you convinced yourself that Putin should remain in power as long as there are Nemtsov with Navalny. It remains now to convince others ..
            1. 9 December 2011 00: 11
              0
              I was always sure that Putin should remain in power. But I forgot about these two until recent events.
              1. slan
                slan 9 December 2011 00: 14
                +1
                And I was sure of that. And now it begins to seem that he is working with them on the same team.
    4. 9 December 2011 04: 27
      0
      That is, Neolexx1, especially for you: http://rem-lj.livejournal.com/1244306.html
  12. dimaas
    dimaas 8 December 2011 12: 52
    -1
    All is correct. But not effective enough. Shoot on the spot of these scum. Then the result will be.
    1. Timonf
      Timonf 8 December 2011 13: 02
      0
      And who the hell are Russian citizens? then you also need to be shot! Do not think that there are only liberals at the rallies now, A lot of ordinary people who in the elections have ruined their eyes with shit. There were no falsifications and there would be no such consequences.
      1. ytqnhfk
        ytqnhfk 8 December 2011 13: 27
        -4
        Falsifications? -Yes this is ridiculous stuffing of whitewash? I would have to throw in millions !! You need to think with your head! Violations were not in the areas! People were simply "persuaded" to vote for United Russia! There was pressure, but this is not an easy time in foreign policy!
        1. Timonf
          Timonf 8 December 2011 13: 34
          -2
          See more zombie creator ytqnhfk
          1. 8 December 2011 22: 28
            0
            And you, finally, get out of your fairytale forest.
            1. Timonf
              Timonf 8 December 2011 23: 07
              -1
              It has long been 10 years since
          2. ytqnhfk
            ytqnhfk 9 December 2011 01: 06
            0
            Yes, I look and here people like you do not understand what they are rushing to! Yes, and I saw you here not long ago, who are you "reindeer" or amerovsky? Unlike you, my life experience is rich in events 20-25 years ago, and I remember everything perfectly how we lived and what happened in the country! And under the USSR, I also lived everything myself I remember well, so you won't scare me with a TV, I think a lot of things, unlike you!
            1. Timonf
              Timonf 9 December 2011 08: 05
              0
              You do not need to put yourself above others, this is what I think about, and so on, and I do not need to insult it about Deers and so on. And besides the registered ones, there are many people who simply read the site without registering, did you think about this? you think ours :) And as for the views, I am a communist! Still have something to show?
              1. ytqnhfk
                ytqnhfk 9 December 2011 09: 57
                0
                If a communist, then what is the reason for everything? or the main thing, in my opinion, let it be 10 times worse, but as I wanted it! Yes, and no one else puts your views very liberal above any other! I would not say that they are communist! Well, I’m not a prosecutor to show you anything!
        2. augsburg
          augsburg 8 December 2011 19: 47
          0
          The topic is about fraud and stuffing. Truth is not true, but you should think about it. You need to pay attention not so much to the article itself as to the user’s comments to it under the nickname polkovnik_andree. Here is the link: http://www.echo.msk.ru/blog / aleksashenko / 836363-echo /
      2. lightforcer
        lightforcer 8 December 2011 20: 52
        +1
        Our government is now only half the citizens of the Russian Federation.
    2. wasjasibirjac
      wasjasibirjac 8 December 2011 16: 53
      +2
      thank. do not. first shoot the bastards, then shoot those who look wrong. You can’t go this far. expel foreigners for breaking the law is normal. just not at the expense of the budget, but let them earn a shovel in their hands on a return ticket
  13. korwet
    korwet 8 December 2011 12: 53
    +5
    I fully agree with Neolexx1. The authorities should listen to their people, and not engage in scammers. We must teach our moral leaders. And pendosy will always try to drive a wedge between Russian people
    1. Lech e-mine
      Lech e-mine 8 December 2011 12: 57
      +7
      YES OUR AUTHORITY SHOULD BE FORCED TO LISTEN TO THE PEOPLE BUT IT SHOULD BE DONE BY LEGAL WAYS. THOSE WHO CALL FOR TESTING THE AUTHORITIES BY MILITARY WAY - ADVENTURISTS. THEY SHOULD BE PRESSED IN ZARODYSZYROZARY.
      1. lightforcer
        lightforcer 8 December 2011 20: 58
        -2
        There is no legal way to deal with who actually is the law.
        1. 8 December 2011 22: 29
          0
          And what is necessary?
          1. lightforcer
            lightforcer 8 December 2011 22: 46
            +1
            Not by the methods of Mahatma Gandhi, as many here suggest. While it is necessary to hold protests on a larger scale, the main thing is not to allow fire from either side.
            1. 9 December 2011 00: 00
              +2
              I agree with that. Let it be the leaders of the systemic opposition who will gather the people for legal rallies without provocation and blood, put forward specific demands on the authorities (much more will come to such rallies and people), because it is alleged that their votes were stolen, not Nemtsov and Co. Why did they allow these rats to brainwash their voters, to do their work for them?
  14. esaul
    esaul 8 December 2011 12: 54
    0
    Damn, it's not even interesting to discuss. For some reason, those who fondly remember Comrade Stalin and his correct, sometimes harsh, but fair measures, foaming at the mouth begin to "burn with a verb" the extremely harsh (in relation to those who disagree) pro-Putin regime and, unjustifiably harsh, actions of this regime? very much like the methods of Comrade Stalin. The head goes in a circle ... recourse
    1. Lech e-mine
      Lech e-mine 8 December 2011 13: 12
      +7
      it’s not about the PUTIN regime. WE ARE ATTEMPTING TO DECEPE UNDER THE SIGHT OF DEMOCRACY ALIEN IDEAS AND LIFESTYLE (FREEDOM TO PEDERASTS TO ALL GAYS AND THEN TIME) AND THERE IS EXPERIENCES EXPERIENCED FOR US TO FIGHT WITH EVERY EXTREMISTS.
      1. esaul
        esaul 8 December 2011 15: 27
        0
        Lyokha, I take my words back. I went in from the cold, I saw ... I did it!
  15. dmb
    dmb 8 December 2011 12: 54
    +4
    What objects to which offenders should be sent, the author of the article considers the construction sites of the national economy? Does he seriously believe that Gazprom and Rosneft or Megafon are the property of the people?
    1. Timonf
      Timonf 8 December 2011 13: 05
      +1
      Yeah, they will send the laborer to Barinov)) Although, in principle, we are now doing this for handouts, and there we will generally be free))
    2. wasjasibirjac
      wasjasibirjac 8 December 2011 16: 57
      0
      no, it belongs to someone. let the owner of Gazprom, Rosneft and a megaphone pay for these idiots to work on them, only the price should be beneficial for them. there will be more towers, gas stations - this is also beneficial for us
  16. танк
    танк 8 December 2011 13: 01
    +1
    We must act like Lukashenko, everything ended there clearly and quickly, the organizers had a real time, the rest were rikhtanuli with the batons, he knew who the rallies were, stop it at the root, the rally should be authorized, agreed and no riot, we all know why this will lead (Libya, on the approach Syria, some corpses + in terms of living rolled back 50 years ago), that’s the whole democracy
  17. Rashid
    Rashid 8 December 2011 13: 05
    +5
    As always, the truth is somewhere in between. As elsewhere, many people are simply dissatisfied with some actions of the authorities and it is good that they are expressing dissatisfaction. On the other hand, all sorts of provocateurs are trying to turn this healthy discontent in their direction, at the same time to work out foreign grandmothers. It seems that now the authorities have acted adequately - all the detainees were released, and the instigators were arrested. Remember how Lukashenka dealt with such provocateurs, the article "riots" and prison.
  18. Capture
    Capture 8 December 2011 13: 09
    +2
    It’s really time to end liberalism, but maybe it’s time to start democracy already !!!
  19. badabum
    badabum 8 December 2011 13: 15
    0
    Bored people, do not want a quiet life and do not want to work. The State Department put Europe in a pose for its papers and we will not be bored. This is just the beginning. The farther, the worse.
  20. танк
    танк 8 December 2011 13: 31
    -1
    Capture,
    this is crap, and if you are not blind and not deaf, then you saw what happens to those who covered its wing
    1. Capture
      Capture 8 December 2011 14: 34
      0
      I am not blind and not deaf, I am for democracy, as a form of PEOPLE'S DEMOCRACY, and not the power of grabbers, hucksters and thieves !!!
      1. танк
        танк 8 December 2011 15: 16
        0
        Are you serious ??? this is not feasible in practice, just like pure communism
        1. Capture
          Capture 8 December 2011 15: 44
          0
          One must strive to achieve !!!
      2. 8 December 2011 22: 32
        +1
        Stop dreaming. Tell me really such a country.
  21. Smart today
    Smart today 8 December 2011 13: 50
    +1
    For the administration of the site, I’m certainly an enemy in your eyes and therefore have a negative rating. Therefore, I ask you to give the opportunity not to read your Journal and unregister.
    1. танк
      танк 8 December 2011 14: 22
      0
      Smart, you're wrong, everything is much simpler than you think, just your opinion is not similar to the opinion of other commentators and this is not a reason to leave the site, for example, I’m interested in knowing different opinions on the same issue, but the rating is minus salary because from this you will not go down fellow
    2. mar.tira
      mar.tira 8 December 2011 14: 42
      +3
      Quote: Smart today
      unregister.

      Are you, and in life behave like that. Passing at once!? Not ashamed?
    3. urzul
      urzul 8 December 2011 14: 45
      +2
      not everything is already so bad, it happens here they don’t set cons for it, but sometimes it’s just for the company
  22. Samsebenaum
    Samsebenaum 8 December 2011 14: 15
    +8
    The author is burning. The article is angry and biased.
    So many times people who are in their right mind wrote: rallies are not against the Russian state, but against dirty elections.
    Well, finally understand!
    I, categorically against the rallies, have already written about this, there are other legal methods, but I am also against the cynicism of the authorities, who "did not see" and turned a blind eye to this farce, which provoked a wave of protest.
    1. dim
      dim 8 December 2011 16: 21
      +1
      I fully support your comment
      1. slan
        slan 8 December 2011 18: 07
        +1
        The author does not burn, and fulfills the fee. And the overwhelmingly impressionable audience immediately picked up. Is that what the calls are for? So that when another time the Russian youth at the Manezhka marry a murdered comrade, the medveputes would have their hands untied? It is necessary to fight with characters financed from abroad, and not with normal people for whom a fine of 1000 rubles is noticeable. And just bulk and new-yorkers in the Russian Federation feel at ease.
        1. Kite
          Kite 8 December 2011 22: 50
          0
          N. Starikov is generally a well-known writer and historian, knowing his works on the history of Russia, I will tell you that this is his reasoned firm civic position. He knows a lot of amazing documents from the activities of revolutionaries.
          1. slan
            slan 8 December 2011 23: 00
            +1
            Yes, no one argues about the revolutionaries, but no need to bring to the point of absurdity. In addition to professional revolutionaries, there are also people. And it’s easy to fight with revolutionaries - they have no time to work and need sponsors. You won’t scare them with fines and arrests; it’s their bread, but ordinary Russians will not find it.
            1. Kite
              Kite 8 December 2011 23: 37
              +1
              I read that he is offering harsh treatment with the "professionals" and not with the people.
              1. slan
                slan 8 December 2011 23: 49
                +2
                I propose a new State Duma to immediately adopt changes to the relevant legislative acts. The penalty should be increased at times.
                For the first violation of the law on rallies - a fine for random violators, juvenile fools and 15 days of socially useful work for professional demonstrators, for “bulk” “yashin” and “Nemtsov”.
                For repeated violation of the law - there can be no fines. Arrest on 60 day.
                Let the streets sweep. Dirt will be less, and all normal residents of the country - calmer.

                For the third violation of the law - 1,5 year in prison.
                For the following - this is already a repeat offender - from 1,5 to 5 years.
                I assure you, six months after the adoption of such a law, no one will smile cheerfully and be photographed in the OMON buses. And then no one will try to carry out a coup d'etat.

                There, about "professionals" only in the first arrest. Well, who will sort them into pros and amateurs, Sergeant? That is, the guys went out on the Russian march to declare that they do not like that cops let the lumps get everything for money, the cops come off, whoever gets away with a huge fine ... And henceforth they will even be afraid to go to trainings in groups of more than three. if something goes wrong, they are in the file cabinet and for two months it shines in the case of a second, and then 1.5 years ..
                But the blockheads will continue to bullshit on black priors, and a kilometer of broken roads will cost more than a collider. Is this your "thoughtful" article? Where are the methods of dealing with foreign agents here? I see exclusively anti-popular methods. Do you need to fight differently with foreign agents and maniacs, or don't you agree?
                But the liberals will have enough money to buy up cops and members of the EP party and will not be threatened with them for 5 years. But isn’t all our laws working thanks to the current government?
                1. Whole
                  Whole 9 December 2011 13: 10
                  +2
                  I agree with you completely, the people want to be heard by the authorities, and the liberals silently try to ride the wave, but they won’t succeed. And the article for what type of power would not do is sit on your own crevices and do not protrude. About Nemtsovs and others like them, they disperse the GRU, and the author calls for tougher laws for all the protesters ... but most of the protesters do not go abroad for instructions!
    2. Kyrgyz
      Kyrgyz 8 December 2011 18: 05
      +1
      Well, what elections are clean? which Germans with lemon will win?
      I voted for the Communist Party, I have no complaints about the elections, many voted for EP, and my well-being with EP improved significantly
      IMHO these rallies showed the weakness of the opposition support is low
      1. lightforcer
        lightforcer 8 December 2011 20: 59
        +2
        Nemtsov will never win fair elections.
    3. Smirnov Vadim
      Smirnov Vadim 9 December 2011 13: 30
      0
      First, you need to write to the admin not here, but in a personal or on a forum. We do not review all the comments, your noticed by chance.
      Secondly, we do not specifically deal with lowering or raising someone in rank (no sense). This makes the program automatically. I admit. that it was a software failure. If someone can confirm that you have reached the rank of lieutenant colonel, we will restore it.
  23. Ustas
    Ustas 8 December 2011 15: 16
    +3
    Let's be frank - what the “opposition” is trying to do is an attempted coup.


    But Mr. Starikov, the author of the article, does not think that election fraud is a coup d'etat. Indeed, according to the Constitution of the Russian Federation, the basis of the state is its people. From here we have to dance.
    1. badabum
      badabum 8 December 2011 15: 35
      +3
      This is not an attempt at a coup, it is a banal earning points and working out the Pindos salary.
      1. lightforcer
        lightforcer 8 December 2011 21: 00
        -2
        Yes, you always have the Pindos to blame or the Jews.
      2. Kite
        Kite 8 December 2011 23: 12
        +2
        If they earned bucks just by giving lectures about Russia in American universities, I would also say that these are trite wretched earcaps. But they are not limited to lectures.
    2. Kite
      Kite 8 December 2011 23: 07
      +3
      When the separation is obvious to everyone, but the rampaging minority over and over in ANY country denies this, plus the black PR methods, then the elections become just a ritual preceding the coups. So many times this scenario has already been played since 1917, everyone should already know that this will be followed not by a bright future, but by darkness and rivers of blood.
  24. dim
    dim 8 December 2011 16: 23
    +2
    I see the author like this power
  25. dimarm74
    dimarm74 8 December 2011 16: 46
    +8
    Of course you can argue for a long time ... but we must admit that we have today:
    1) Absolutely corrupt opposition, which does not want to change the system, but wants to take the place of power itself. Since all these Nemtsovs, Kasyanovs and other Khodorkovskys were unfastened from oil and gas pipes at one time. The filth of such an opposition is enhanced by the fact that it is completely bought by the United States and the West;
    2) We have a clan-oligarchic, completely corrupt, 95% power that has seized the pipes ... Mercilessly exploits the remaining production assets, and withdraws all capital to the same USA and the West. What is invested there "in modernization" is a penny, compared to what is deposited in foreign banks.
    Therefore, dear .... it is pointless to argue .. and this opposition is not needed and the power is the same .... nothing better. Some just sit on the pipes, while others need money ... as Viktor Tsoi said in the film "Needle"
    1. arhipelag
      arhipelag 8 December 2011 18: 11
      +3
      yes, ordinary citizens have nothing to do with each other, each for himself
  26. sprut
    sprut 8 December 2011 17: 41
    -3
    EVERYONE who entered with unauthorized rallies is traitors and enemies !!! They need to be squeezed not for 15 days, but for a reasonable period with confiscation of property! How can one be so stupid as to succumb to a pro-Western provocation ??? All who spoke iam - CATTLE !!!
    1. mar.tira
      mar.tira 8 December 2011 17: 48
      -2
      Do not burst! Izh how strained !!!! am
      1. bandura70
        bandura70 8 December 2011 18: 07
        -1
        Captain, the lieutenant is almost right!
        1. slan
          slan 8 December 2011 18: 16
          -1
          And where are the western provocations? Just full support.
      2. sprut
        sprut 8 December 2011 18: 47
        -5
        Do not worry, of course not burst !! wink But in your place it would be worth thinking about being ...
    2. dimaas
      dimaas 8 December 2011 19: 19
      +2
      That’s all garbage! Will not help. To shoot. On the spot. These are our methods!
  27. Zlyden.Zlo
    Zlyden.Zlo 8 December 2011 18: 01
    +1
    I have not seen a single statement by party leaders from Yabloko to the Communist Party, and so on, that there was a massive forgery from the EP.
    1. Timonf
      Timonf 8 December 2011 19: 44
      -1
      http://kprf.ru/actions/100150.html Заявления есть только нужно поискать)
      1. 8 December 2011 22: 42
        0
        And what is written there? "Do we not recognize the election results?"
        We read: "We believe that the new composition of the State Duma should conduct a thorough parliamentary investigation of the results of the December 4 vote and take measures to legislatively tighten the punishment for any attempts to falsify the will of citizens."

        Those. Nobody disputes the composition of the new 6th State Duma at all, and it is this Duma that should: "conduct a thorough parliamentary investigation of the results of the December 4 vote and take measures to legislatively toughen the punishment for any attempts to falsify the will of citizens"
        1. Timonf
          Timonf 8 December 2011 23: 11
          -2
          The answer was to the question "I have not seen a single statement of party leaders from Yabloko to the Communist Party of the Russian Federation and so on, that there was a massive fraud on the part of the United Russia" - do not distort citizen kos
      2. Zlyden.Zlo
        Zlyden.Zlo 9 December 2011 06: 11
        0
        It looks like the Communist Party is happy with everything. He’s protesting vaguely
    2. lightforcer
      lightforcer 8 December 2011 21: 01
      +2
      From the Communist Party there were statements. I’ve read your Putin blizzard here, they thought they really recognized the election. But to hell with you!
      1. Zlyden.Zlo
        Zlyden.Zlo 9 December 2011 06: 06
        0
        And what about Putin’s blizzard? (I myself voted against the bears. Yes, and I will vote against Putin)
    3. 3DV
      3DV 9 December 2011 10: 55
      0
      So they are more than satisfied with them anyway, they got more seats, and in the next election they won’t have such an influx of protest votes (either the United Russia will turn to people or another party will be formed) - you need to use the moment, try to consolidate your success - all the more so to victory of them was not ready, their programs are not very suitable for life in my opinion
  28. Samsebenaum
    Samsebenaum 8 December 2011 18: 01
    +9
    Administrator: How do you understand that in 10 minutes I was demoted from a lieutenant colonel, to a sergeant?
    Just do not have to sing songs that forum users voted so. In 10 minutes?
    1. slan
      slan 8 December 2011 18: 18
      +2
      Some general’s inferiority complex was hurt. It is easy to guess if desired.
      Only to take a steam bath on this occasion, to fall to its level.
    2. Kite
      Kite 8 December 2011 23: 20
      0
      And what does the moderator have to do with it? Is it not with you that I recently polemicized and wrote that the place and style of communication matter. I was then instructed for this simple truth of the minuses. So what?.
      1. Kite
        Kite 9 December 2011 13: 15
        0
        and now it's completely funny! minus for the fact that the absolute truth is written: the entourage - shoulder straps are drawn not by the moderator, but automatically determined by the balance of "+" and "-".
    3. Smirnov Vadim
      Smirnov Vadim 9 December 2011 13: 33
      0
      First, you need to write to the admin not here, but in a personal or on a forum. We do not review all the comments, your noticed by chance.
      Secondly, we do not specifically deal with lowering or raising someone in rank (no sense). This makes the program automatically. I admit. that it was a software failure. If someone can confirm that you have reached the rank of lieutenant colonel, we will restore it.
  29. ya-1
    ya-1 8 December 2011 18: 29
    +2
    There is no need to argue that the current government has many minuses, but the revolution is out of place now, people are not happy with the elections, it is clear, but it is also clear that there are many instigators who move a lot of people who are not happy with their thoughtful path, plus information war, etc.
    1. sprut
      sprut 8 December 2011 18: 48
      0
      Exactly!!!
    2. lightforcer
      lightforcer 8 December 2011 21: 02
      +2
      That which Edro itself broadcasts to us is an information war. It's just that people are already rejecting it.
      1. ytqnhfk
        ytqnhfk 9 December 2011 01: 17
        -4
        Go to the toilet, tear it away and look at the result! These are your thoughts on the election!
        1. lightforcer
          lightforcer 9 December 2011 16: 06
          0
          blah blah blah. If Nemtsov suddenly won, people like you would have torn an ass for him.
  30. Samsebenaum
    Samsebenaum 8 December 2011 18: 38
    +5
    Well, since there are such "Enerals", then I have nothing to do here.
    There was a thing, I quarreled here with one ...
    I thought everything was honest here ... Ah, no.

    "I do not like it when they crawl into my soul, especially when they spit in it ..."
    Guys, good luck to everyone, sorry if that is not so ...
    1. slan
      slan 8 December 2011 19: 07
      +2
      You're not right. The rating system is a little stupid, but who needs it?
      I understand, it's a shame, but it's definitely not worth it. And for me, the sergeant is cooler, the generals and in real life do not cause envy.
    2. lightforcer
      lightforcer 8 December 2011 21: 06
      0
      There is a proven way to improve your rating. You go to the topic and write: "Russia has two allies - the army and the navy", "The Cold War never ended," and so on.
      1. slan
        slan 8 December 2011 22: 40
        0
        +1
        And it’s even more efficient to find the same rating of the handwriter and stably write more innocuous comments, putting pluses to each other. And even easier, have two accounts ... And also ..)))
        So they found something to worry about ..
    3. linen
      linen 8 December 2011 22: 42
      +1
      The local generals smell yellow * viburnum * a mile away.
  31. lightforcer
    lightforcer 8 December 2011 18: 53
    +2
    Do you want a revolution? Good riddance to the Middle East.

    Get lost in Pindostan or the EU, all your "non-liberals for stability" already have citizenship there. I want to live at home. But I do not want our country to be an outcast, neighbors are uneducated cattle (or smart, but useless people), and that my hero city stops becoming an exemplary Mukho * com. I am for justice, fair courts, no corruption since school, no television with chernukha and stupid sitcoms, for social advertising while cutting off the usual. I want us to be Russians, not by inheritance, but in essence.
  32. Samsebenaum
    Samsebenaum 8 December 2011 19: 21
    +3
    It's not about the ranks ... It's ridiculous to even discuss it.
    No offense, there is disappointment.
    1. slan
      slan 8 December 2011 19: 24
      0
      Well, it happens. Then maybe the same person will build a mountain of pluses, and even more likely.
  33. Samsebenaum
    Samsebenaum 8 December 2011 19: 34
    +4
    It's just that when it's so petty, "generals" take revenge from under the tishka - they don't want to make ratings.
    But to bend and assent is not trained.
    Admi-in, aw! If you are a man, restore what happened. Or delete the registration!
    A matter of principle.
    1. ytqnhfk
      ytqnhfk 9 December 2011 01: 20
      -1
      Do not cry! You are very ambitious!
    2. mar.tira
      mar.tira 9 December 2011 06: 00
      0
      Quote: Samsebenum
      Admi-in, aw!

      They are so kidding! Pranksters! I don’t even look at my rating, the main thing is to express our views on how we better live.
  34. from
    from 8 December 2011 22: 33
    -2
    I fully support the author. It is a pity there are few such articles.
  35. dobrik10
    dobrik10 9 December 2011 00: 57
    +1
    The author, of course, raised a very good topic for discussion, although it is not so simple with the punishment measures, this is another opportunity to give Western "democracy" to scream about lawlessness in our country and infringement of freedom of speech and expression of will.
    Another thing is that the special services should better work with the "comrades" that these rallies provoke and sponsor, in my opinion, this direct incitement to public disorder ...
  36. Denis
    Denis 9 December 2011 09: 42
    +3
    In the United States and Great Britain for the same thing they arrest, imprison, give deadlines. And we write out 1000 rubles fine.
    But the fate of the country is not a toy.
    reminds pre-revolutionary Russia, when a student, in order to show himself in front of the young ladies, insulted a police officer and went to prison for three days as a "hero"
    1. Whole
      Whole 9 December 2011 13: 21
      +1
      You know, our "updated" policemen insult just like that and without any rallies, and if you give them a reason, you can lose health easily and naturally ...
  37. NUT
    NUT 9 December 2011 10: 37
    +2
    "The time has come to drastically tighten the punishment for attempts at unauthorized marches, demonstrations and rallies."
    (Nikolai Starikov)
    we have no equal
    but one thing
    to disperse and transplant the shobla with wet% of those with whom we do not drink or a herd of progressively someone who is a wallowed youth who has a head, up to twenty years old, a genital organ.
    another thing
    to disperse and replant the hard workers, whom the owner who is fattening on the warm, paradise islands, does not pay wages for months or the peasants from whom our modern "counts, princes, boyars" took the river in which the ancestors of those peasants swam and fished for centuries or the forest that fed them for centuries
    and who decides and cuts today?

    it’s for you guys not to play chess, here you need to think ...
  38. Whole
    Whole 9 December 2011 13: 27
    0
    http://www.eot.su/node/10020 вот тут Кургинян правильно сказал...
  39. Samsebenaum
    Samsebenaum 9 December 2011 19: 02
    +1
    Brothers, thank you for your support.
    I want to thank the administrator for the restoration of justice and
    to apologize publicly for "hitting" him.
  40. Zlyden.Zlo
    Zlyden.Zlo 9 December 2011 19: 34
    +1
    People, and how do we still reach out to our rulers?
    1. lightforcer
      lightforcer 9 December 2011 19: 52
      +1



      October 1993
  41. Zlyden.Zlo
    Zlyden.Zlo 9 December 2011 20: 01
    +1
    whom whom and these freaks I would not want to see