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Afghan syndrome? No, the sense of justice and the smell of victory!

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Memorial Day of soldiers-internationalists. Typical day. Most didn’t even pay attention to men over the age of 50 with a pair of carnations. You never know, where are these middle-aged guys go ... Life boils. Life requires speed. And pay attention to others have become much less. Sorry, hurry.


In each city there is a place where war veterans come. More often a monument to the boy-soldier in the "Afghan" and landing unloading. Sometimes BMD or BMP. But there is a place.



Everyone who participated in local wars experienced the effect of the so-called "Afghan syndrome". When the state, and ordinary people often, were ashamed of the fact that there was a war. With Afghanistan it was hard to hide, and how much is hidden? How many men on the question of the award will say: for the execution of the task of command. And that's all.

I recall a case in Tashkent at the start of the 80's. The case, which showed a real attitude to the soldiers.

The young sailor demob, in full dress uniform, without the then popular "chest in orders and half a dozen aglet." It is a decent form. For Uzbekistan, the sailor is exotic. Anyway, sailors as a percentage of soldier piece goods.

So here. Detained the patrol guy. Normal city patrol - for violation of the form of clothing. At that time, any demob for such violations could be delayed. Although the pad under the Komsomol badge, though epaulets ceremonial "ensigns," but fit on the form. The saying - the people dressed, let the people and laughs, for demobilization was not relevant.

And from the point of view of a normal patrol (well, all people, all humans, we understand) surpassed everyone. Under the standard set of icons in the area of ​​the liver he hung ... "royal" order. At that time, from similar Soviet ones there was only "For the Service to the Motherland". And this classic "royal". Huge, with a bunch of rays, rhinestones ...

Anyone who has ever been to the commandant's office knows the tone of the “educational” conversation and the likely outcome of this conversation. The captain of the Komendachey was spraying full saliva. And the retribution for the mockery of the form of the Soviet Navy foretold terrible. Thrice to quarter and chop off all limbs at least four times.

However, after checking the documents, the captain for some reason shut up. It turned out that the sailor did not create a "masterpiece" on his own. He was created many years before his birth. And this masterpiece is an order. From real white and yellow gold with diamonds. Moreover, this order was received by the boy from the hands of some Arab, whether sheikh, or sultan. Received for clearance of water in the Red Sea.

The sailor was released. But then I saw how he shot the order. From sin away. I drove home. And I wanted to get there.

Afghans faced this as well. Probably, everyone heard on the Day of the Airborne Forces: where did the boy get the Great Patriotic War awards? Why the Order of the Red Star or the ZBZ Medal, or "For Courage"?

Today, our army is involved in the fighting in Syria. And for the first time, and just so, for the first time, the soldiers are treated like heroes. Simple people. What a sincere grief the majority had for the dead. Not ostentatious, namely from the heart. With what pride we read about the successful strokes of the VKS.

According to all polls conducted today, the majority supports Putin’s policies. Just yesterday, the Levada Center published the results of its survey. 59% of respondents support our strikes. And only 27 against. Most believe that our attacks are aimed not so much at supporting the Assad regime as at preventing the war on our territory (53%).

It is clear that a well-organized operation contributes to such sentiments. It is also clear that in the case of the start of a ground operation, the numbers will slightly change. Zinks do little to support the war. But today Russia supports Putin.

Yesterday, February 15, on Memorial Day, we sat in a regular cafe. We are those who came to the monument with carnations. Those who did not see each other there. Each had their own war. But come together to shut up. To raise the third toast.

To be honest, I am glad that today soldiers and officers are honored. Honored are those who do not allow war in our homes. I'm happy for my people. Because he understands. I'm happy for my government. Because it does not "bend".

And most importantly, I am glad that I can sit here with strangers, but family people. With pot-bellied men and slender (why women veterans do not get fat?) Women. Ordinary people who not only did not break on business trips themselves, but also raised the same children.

I do not want to be taught to live. I want to live as I want. By law, by justice. Since I was taught by my parents. And for those 27% I will say: guys, do not confuse the soft and bitter. Broken roads, leaking roofs, poor medicine, and so on - this is bad. Very bad. But we will deal with this. Me and you. And as we see fit. It is we. And so that we can decide, the men in Syria risk their lives.

Paradoxical Russia again surprises the world. Sanctions. The creep of NATO to the borders. Leaking terrorists. Full discord with Ukraine. Where not to throw, everywhere a wedge. And in the shower there is no confusion. No fear. On the contrary. A joyful feeling of a winner. As in 45-m ... It will be difficult. Scary hard. But the winner is never defeated.
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  2. Bayonet
    Bayonet 17 February 2016 06: 36 New
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    We have two monuments to the children who died in Afghanistan. And how many of them are in the cemetery ... There is the son of my friend, who himself is not there - it's hard to bury sons ...
    1. anfil
      anfil 17 February 2016 07: 04 New
      35
      Yes ... Asia is not tolerant Europe!



      Eternal memory to them!
    2. Great-grandfather of Zeus
      Great-grandfather of Zeus 17 February 2016 07: 32 New
      +5
      Shtyk-Alexander! My second cousin lives near the first monument, and I live two blocks from the second, and here and there, on the 15th, along with the Afghans I knew, I laid flowers ...
      1. Dembel77
        Dembel77 17 February 2016 09: 26 New
        +3
        It will be difficult. Scary hard.
        But we will not be scared. Do not get used to defend the homeland, we will defend this time. Nothing - we are Pskov, we will break through.
      2. Bayonet
        Bayonet 17 February 2016 11: 00 New
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        Quote: Great-grandfather of Zeus
        and I live two blocks from the second

        Maybe Kataev knew? They lived on Sorge. hi
  3. Great-grandfather of Zeus
    Great-grandfather of Zeus 17 February 2016 06: 38 New
    +1
    Yes, that's right you wrote, we in Rostov on the laying of wreaths were both elderly people and youth! The people live with the memory!
  4. parusnik
    parusnik 17 February 2016 06: 39 New
    +5
    It will be difficult. Scary hard. But the winner is not defeated... It doesn’t happen .. true .. Thank you ..
  5. hohkn
    hohkn 17 February 2016 06: 40 New
    +5
    I will subscribe to every word!
  6. Andrey Yuryevich
    Andrey Yuryevich 17 February 2016 06: 45 New
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    Every city has a place where combat veterans come. More often a monument to a boy-soldier in an "Afghan woman" and landing unloading.
    "Black Tulip", Yekaterinburg ...
    remember ...
  7. avva2012
    avva2012 17 February 2016 07: 14 New
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    15 031 dead, 53 753 wounded, 10 751 disabled.
    The soldiers and officers who covered our country from the flow of drugs.
    Eternal memory to the dead! Honor and glory to the survivors!
    Thank you!
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 17 February 2016 07: 55 New
      +7
      Quote: avva2012
      The soldiers and officers who covered our country from the flow of drugs.

      There was then no flow of drugs. The drug went with the collapse of the USSR and its flow increased tenfold with the arrival of amers in Afghanistan.
      1. Chisayna
        Chisayna 17 February 2016 08: 04 New
        +1
        Hehe, and the chuyka, Buryatka, on the Far East Birobidzhanka is about local hemp.
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 17 February 2016 08: 21 New
          +1
          Quote: Chisain
          Hehe, and the chuyka, Buryatka, on the Far East Birobidzhanka is about local hemp.

          Yes, we still have enough grass. You forgot Amur.
          Travacurs have their own coat of arms lol
          1. Andrey Yuryevich
            Andrey Yuryevich 17 February 2016 09: 06 New
            +3
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Travacurs have their own coat of arms

            if there is a coat of arms, then there is a state ... which means there is someone to declare war on.
            1. Sling cutter
              Sling cutter 17 February 2016 09: 43 New
              +4
              I’ve never ate something of Comrade Colonel request
              What kind of carousel like my "syndrome", Putin and Syria?
              I’m reporting, Comrade Colonel I don’t have a syndrome, I don’t.
              There is a concussion, there is a "Brave" medal, but there is no syndrome. and the colonel says that I should dive into my pockets with my award? Duc rewarding flew in aggregate, and there were a lot of performances, the current somewhere in the colonel’s headquarters was hectic.
              I personally know one "devil", so he has two "Stars" and a "Red Banner" - the guy worked in the field of reducing the "spiritual" population, and in life he is the most modest person, also bezz syndromes when he is sober. In Chechnya, he continued to prove his, so to speak, legitimacy and he was given a "cross" for this, so he threw it into the latrine bucket ...
              And when we are going on the second, as there was nothing, the current "migrants" go somewhere, apparently from a distance they see the "striped" ones and dematerialize, otherwise you never know sho ..
              That's it, damn it, syndrome soldier
              1. Wheel
                Wheel 17 February 2016 14: 36 New
                +2
                Quote: Stroporez
                That's it, damn it, syndrome

                Since the time of the humpback this "syndrome" has been exaggerated.
                I remember how the "psychologists" were breaking the adequate men who were across the river, driving in a guilt and inferiority complex ...
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      2. avva2012
        avva2012 17 February 2016 08: 08 New
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        Quote: Alexander Romanov There was then no flow of drugs.

        Because it was not that someone smart was thinking about this for the future.
        And what about drugs in the USSR? Not as recently, but there was the Chuy Valley, the south of the RSFSR, for example Volgograd with Krasnodar. There was then (closed) statistics on the spread of drug addiction in the USSR. And, the development (at a new level) of the narcological service began even before Gorby's "fight against drunkenness". Like this, the year 1978-79.
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 17 February 2016 08: 26 New
          +5
          Quote: avva2012
          What about drugs in the USSR? Not like recently, but there was Chuy valley

          Listen, about the USSR. Hemp grew right in the city, no one smoked it at all. Then it was mowed down and it went up in price and began to be in demand. And no one needed food at the foot of the fig. Mostly everyone drank it.
          Central Asia, yes, they drank less, smoked more.
          Quote: avva2012
          Approximately, the year 1978-79th.

          So I’m telling you for that, the use of Khimki jumped several times after it began to be eradicated. And in those same years, poppy, for example, grew open in summer residents, like beautiful flowers. Then the ban went.
          1. avva2012
            avva2012 17 February 2016 08: 46 New
            0
            Quote: Alexander Romanov And in those same years, poppy for example grew openly at summer residents, like beautiful flowers.

            I, visiting my aunt in 1982, was in Volgograd. Summer residents, at that time, tried not to plant "beautiful flowers", because they began to be afraid of junkies. There was no ban yet. It is not possible to mow hemp, that is still a weed. They fight with chemicals. He served in 1985, repeatedly communicated with peers who had already tried the "little black girl". Yes, and not only Vysotsky was a drug addict in the country? Those closed statistics, perhaps now open. I did not look in the internet, other sources of information (of course not the Union level), but still.
            1. Alexander Romanov
              Alexander Romanov 17 February 2016 09: 21 New
              +1
              Quote: avva2012
              I, visiting my aunt in 1982, was in Volgograd. Summer residents, at that time, tried not to plant "beautiful flowers"

              And at that time we were still growing, then from the west and it came to us. Everything from the west is coming, as it is not strange.
              Quote: avva2012
              . Fight with chemicals.

              Window dressing is all for a little show. You drive 100 km from the city and as much as you want, mow and slaughter. Its fields are boundless. And in De Castro, so vodka is more expensive than saloma. It grows in people in vegetable gardens like nettles and not a cop in figs needs it.
              1. avva2012
                avva2012 17 February 2016 10: 56 New
                +1
                "Everything is from the West, if not strange"
                I don’t like these elves since childhood. They are kind of sweet. laughing
        2. tolian
          tolian 17 February 2016 13: 34 New
          +1
          Anyone who writes that there were no drugs then is just young or stupid. I well remember the end of the 60s. I was absent for six months in the USSR. He flew in and in conversation with friends for the first time then heard that two problems were coming for the USSR - environmental pollution and anesthesia. Somehow unusual it sounded and seemed distant and exaggerated. But now it does not seem!
        3. Wheel
          Wheel 17 February 2016 14: 39 New
          +1
          Quote: avva2012
          There was then (closed) statistics on the spread of drug addiction in the USSR. And, the development (at a new level) of the narcological service began even before Gorby's "fight against drunkenness". Approximately so, the year 1978-79.

          Well, yes, yes ...
          Hemp plants worked back in the 80s ...
          It was with the hunchback that the planting of drugs began.
      3. Bayonet
        Bayonet 17 February 2016 11: 06 New
        +1
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        There was then no flow of drugs.

        There may not have been a stream, but the grass was smoked with might and main. In the late 60's, the rupe jamb - no problem. hi
        1. Wheel
          Wheel 17 February 2016 14: 42 New
          +1
          Quote: Bayonet
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          There was then no flow of drugs.

          There may not have been a stream, but the grass was smoked with might and main. In the late 60's, the rupe jamb - no problem. hi

          Who in the late 60s would give for hemp?
          She was not measured everywhere and she didn’t stomp anywhere at that time.
      4. domokl
        domokl 17 February 2016 12: 17 New
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        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        There was then no flow of drugs.

        laughing Yeah .. I learned about char faster than about Anasha ...
      5. your1970
        your1970 17 February 2016 12: 59 New
        +1
        You are wrong, there was drug in Central Asia and there was a lot of it, after the withdrawal from our military unit almost 20 kg of the purest "999 and a crescent" was confiscated from the soldiers - it was not just that they dragged it to the Union, it was not "Sharp" and "Montana" with "Kessel" lol - you need to know who to pass it was ...
  8. seregatara1969
    seregatara1969 17 February 2016 07: 54 New
    +7
    in every village of our immense homeland there is a participant or burial of a participant in that war. classmates ringleaders of the soul of the company or shy, we remembered their swirling heads after school like that. so we remember them coming to the village cemetery. eternal memory to you internationalist soldiers
  9. lewerlin53rus
    lewerlin53rus 17 February 2016 08: 15 New
    +8
    Borovichi Novgorod region. Next to the memorial to the fallen in the Great Patriotic War in the same park, we also have a monument and the event was held the day before.
  10. Belousov
    Belousov 17 February 2016 08: 41 New
    +1
    The soldiers almost won that war, but then they were betrayed by politicians. Now a similar situation is developing in Syria, the military are destroying the enemies, but will they receive decent help from politicians or again a knife in the back?
    1. Homo
      Homo 17 February 2016 12: 34 New
      +1
      Quote: Belousov
      The soldiers almost won that war, but then they were betrayed by politicians. Now a similar situation is developing in Syria, the military are destroying the enemies, but will they receive decent help from politicians or again a knife in the back?

      And again "chef, everything is gone"! Leaked, sold, betrayed, but what about the facts? Or don't give a damn about facts, give "swamp"? am
  11. Zomanus
    Zomanus 17 February 2016 08: 43 New
    +3
    Well sipped in due time, when they tried
    abandon those wars in which they participated.
    They tried to wean the children from playing war games.
    Like this is inhumane, not for children.
    As a result, they received humiliation of the army.
    And now we see that only thanks to the army is our country
    can play on equal terms with the rest of the world.
    Accordingly, pride and popular support.
  12. avva2012
    avva2012 17 February 2016 08: 49 New
    +1
    Quote: Zomanus
    Well sipped in due time, when they tried
    abandon those wars in which they participated.
    They tried to wean the children from playing war games.
    Like this is inhumane, not for children.
    As a result, they received humiliation of the army.
    And now we see that only thanks to the army is our country
    can play on equal terms with the rest of the world.
    Accordingly, pride and popular support.

    They wrote great! So, just think, if there is "pride and popular support", then the army will not be defeated.
  13. vladimirvn
    vladimirvn 17 February 2016 08: 57 New
    +6
    "Paradoxical Russia again surprises the world. Sanctions. NATO's creeping to the borders. Infiltrating terrorists. Complete discord with Ukraine. Wherever you throw it, there is a wedge everywhere. But there is no confusion in my soul. No fear. On the contrary. Joyful feeling of a winner. As in 45. .. It will be difficult. It will be terribly difficult. But the winner is never defeated. "

    Faith to us. Self-esteem and strength, on the way to the noble goal of building and strengthening the Russian state. “Lord, give us humility to accept that which cannot be changed; give us the courage to change what is to be changed; and give us the wisdom to distinguish one from the other. ”
  14. Chisayna
    Chisayna 17 February 2016 09: 02 New
    +1
    And the author himself was behind the river. Colonel Staver, a great rank, I would like to know his combat path. In general, at that time in Afghanistan, and indeed in nature, there were no amphibious unloading. There were "bras" of the Chinese, Pakistani production, and it is completely different. If the author knew about it.
    1. domokl
      domokl 17 February 2016 12: 36 New
      0
      It's weird. We still had elevators in 82. And in my opinion everyone had RDShki ... although ... depending on where he was ... 44633 ...
      1. Chisayna
        Chisayna 17 February 2016 13: 22 New
        0
        Unloading the landing is not an airborne landing. Unloading the shortened vest, the unloading vest is the vest and not the bra. The company is there: Alloy, Pennant, Cord, etc. The author, although military, is far from military operations. Well, the Soviet industry did not produce unloading vests, only pouches . There are no landing, infantry and other unloadings. It is simple, the unloading vest, of different firms.
        1. your1970
          your1970 17 February 2016 18: 20 New
          0
          you see, for example, in our unit there were two foot Singer sewing machines and one manual English sewing machine (all three from there) - we even managed to sew covers for self-propelled guns, and such a trifle as a "bra" repeat who wanted one and sewed ...
          1. Chisayna
            Chisayna 17 February 2016 19: 00 New
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            They sewed themselves, once again, themselves. Unloading and a bra are slightly different. Unloading is more functional. From Chechnya brought unloading. There are places for 8 (eight) automatic stores, places for 8 (eight) hand grenades, F-1, RGD-5, RGO, RGN. Another place for an indpack, knife, walkie-talkie, a place for signal lights or light-4, a place for smoke-2. On the back, such as a small satchel for a dry ration and a flask. Now compare the bra and unloading.
            1. domokl
              domokl 17 February 2016 19: 28 New
              0
              You just got confused in words. Unloading and laying out .. That's all. And I will even say more. Almost every six months we changed their uniforms ... That was the name of the experimental ... Why not wear it. even a slide with elastic bands ... And someone will say that this was not .. Well, a feather in the tail
  15. Batia
    Batia 17 February 2016 09: 08 New
    +2
    I was not there across the river, but provided communication with Russia. I respect these guys very much. Eternal memory to those who have folded their heads, HONOR AND RESPECT FOR THE LIVING !!!!
    1. your1970
      your1970 17 February 2016 18: 20 New
      0
      Not in Kushka for an hour on the Troposphere? soldier good
  16. TsShVS
    TsShVS 17 February 2016 09: 17 New
    +2
    I am glad that they do not forget the heroes
  17. Xpyct89
    Xpyct89 17 February 2016 09: 48 New
    +2
    Today, our army is participating in hostilities in Syria. And for the first time, and that’s how, for the first time, soldiers are treated like heroes.

    And why for the first time, but what about South Ossetia and the Crimea?
    1. castle
      castle 17 February 2016 13: 20 New
      +1
      And where is the memory of the Soviet soldiers who were dying in Korea, Vietnam, Laos, Cuba, Angola, Yemen, Sinai, Iraq? And now, the memory of the Russian military fighting and dying in Syria? Where is it, memory? I'm afraid there will be no memory. Everything is classified, on the basis of an order from the top.
  18. Bourgeois
    Bourgeois 17 February 2016 10: 09 New
    +6
    In Tomsk.
    On the 15th a lot of people came. However, like every year.
  19. hohkn
    hohkn 17 February 2016 10: 59 New
    +4
    Monument "Broken Brotherhood" in Perm. Flowers and wreaths at any time of the year.
  20. Faust
    Faust 17 February 2016 16: 11 New
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    Quote: Homo
    Quote: Belousov
    The soldiers almost won that war, but then they were betrayed by politicians. Now a similar situation is developing in Syria, the military are destroying the enemies, but will they receive decent help from politicians or again a knife in the back?

    And again "chef, everything is gone"! Leaked, sold, betrayed, but what about the facts? Or don't give a damn about facts, give "swamp"? am

    There was more than one hospital in Angola. Officially wounded and sick were not considered, for the state they were always a burden from which they only dismissed. There is no help even to the most unworthy.

    Excuse me, how many hospitals are deployed in Syria, what do the facts say?
    1. domokl
      domokl 17 February 2016 19: 30 New
      0
      There is a hospital at the base. But there is no need to deploy a full-fledged hospital. The wounded will be evacuated to Russia.
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  23. Andrei
    Andrei 18 February 2016 00: 29 New
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    On February 14, in the Polezhaevsky park, in the Krasnoselsky district of St. Petersburg, in honor of the memorable date, they carried out a military-historical reconstruction of the famous battle of that war, when the 9th airborne company defended a height of 32-34. The forces were unequal, the enemy was fearless, the finale is known.

    http://topspb.tv/news/news97535/#
  24. pRaff
    pRaff 18 February 2016 07: 08 New
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    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    Drug went with the collapse of the USSR

    Once I read a story a long time ago how a lieutenant who had recently come to the outpost was killed at one of the Soviet frontier posts in the Pamir region (it was before the introduction of the Limited contingent). He became interested in dried fruits from the "other side" and discovered heroin in them. For that he paid.
    And I hardly surprise anyone with persistent rumors that drugs were often brought to the Union with the bodies of the dead