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Steinmeier "put" Lavrov in place

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The Foreign Minister sharply criticized his Russian counterpart: in the event of allegedly perfect rape, he protests against interference from Moscow.

The federal government has warned Russia that reports of alleged rape are inciting hostility in Berlin. Foreign Minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier said that there is no reason or excuse to use the 13-year-old girl for political propaganda and thereby stir up the already hot debate in Germany on the issue of migrants. He can only advise the authorities in Moscow to pay attention to the course of the investigation, and not to speculative sources of the press.

The case of Liza also served as the topic of conversations between the representative of the German Foreign Ministry and the Russian ambassador, after which Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said on Tuesday that information about the disappearance of "our Lisa" was hidden for a long time. Then Lavrov said: “I hope that this problem of migrants will not lead to an attempt to politically correct the reality for internal political reasons” (in the German source it was repaint).

The schoolgirl was reported missing January 11. After 30 hours she appeared again. Later, a rumor was spread on the Internet that she was abducted and raped by a group of southern men. Police see no reason for this version. But the prosecutor's office has a suspicion that prior to the disappearance there was sexual contact by mutual agreement between the girl and two young men of Turkish origin. By age criteria it is punishable.

Government spokesman Stefan Seibert said it was inappropriate to "politicize this case." Germany is a legal state. Justice should work calmly and without external pressure. A spokesman for the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, Martin Schaefer, said that, despite the general attitude of the Russian media to the case and regardless of this matter, citizens are able to understand the situation correctly. The principle is still relevant: "Lies have short legs."

The first 7 comments have been deleted.

Dogwalker: Violence is not only physical violence, but also psychological. And in fact: you do not believe that 13-year-olds today voluntarily enter into intimate relationships? What world do you live in?

Niederschlesier: State-directed mass media in Russia follow state-directed mass media in Germany.

JR: Refugees can be excluded from the circle of suspects, this was done by the Turks.

Maxleser: Russia leads an asymmetric war against the West, and especially against Germany. With the help of misinformation, they want to break the inner calm and destabilize the society.

Zauberwald: I believe in romantic history a la romeo and juliet.

Stephan Doo Doo Dixon: It's amazing how obvious and boldly the Kremlin's propaganda machine works even in Germany. They lack the struggle under the carpet, they are looking for open confrontation.

Claude C.: Do you mean that Russia organized a wave of refugees or organized attacks in Cologne?

Quendolin475: But you have a very short memory. If someone says that they should not interfere in the internal affairs of Russia, they call him a Kremlin troll. Lavrov is now engaged in the same nonsense, and immediately there is a loud cry from those who claimed that Putin personally killed Nemtsov.

Der golden Reiter: The loss of power always scares the Kremlin, and the general collapse will occur at the latest next year if oil prices do not rise sharply.

What_s in a name 378: There will be no collapse, just the opposite - flowering landscapes up to Syria.

EurasienSCO: You, experts, and what about the oil prices or the Russian economy?

Suryo: The rule of law in Russia is worse than in Vietnam and China, while Germany is in the top 10.

Habergelmiyoryardan: It seems that Russia is over. It is time for the Russian spring. The Russian people do not deserve the dictator Putin.

Fischers Fritze: "Voluntary contacts between a girl and two young people of Turkish origin." Damn it! Again, these were not Fritz and not guys from upper Franconia.

Ludwig99: Of course, the nerves are at the limit, but there are still adults and at least some clever people. If I were Herr Steinmeier, I would expect an apology from Herr Lavrov. I would ask him why the Germans from Russia came here and did not stay in Russia. Not owning the situation, they go to the demonstration. If it's so bad here, there is a plane to Russia.

mejo: “What role does it play if a girl voluntarily entered into contact with young men of Turkish or some other origin? While this is not a crime, it concerns only the girl and her parents. ” I think “voluntarily” is the wrong word when it comes to a child. And yes, it is a crime.

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  1. Pereira
    Pereira 13 February 2016 11: 02 New
    110
    Steinmeier - this is a piss!
    Germany is a bastion of democracy and therefore beyond suspicion.
    Denial of contacts with Negro-Arabs is discrimination based on ethnicity, but simply rejection of sex is discrimination based on gender.
    In short, Russia is to blame for the rape of the Russian girl.
    Those who think differently - do not correspond to the ideals of democracy, do not fit into the market.
    1. Baikonur
      Baikonur 13 February 2016 11: 06 New
      38
      Quote: Government spokesman Stefan Seibert:
      it is inappropriate to “politicize this case”
      Those. in your country, a Russian citizen, a minor, has been raped cruelly, low, and are we POLITIZING?
      Here are the bastards! Nothing holy! Nothing personal!
      Although in theory, in the correctness, humanly, if they had normally investigated, they would have expressed condolences, sympathy, everything would have been different! And so - they smeared the snout with mud and showed their true Hryukalnik!

      PS:
      Steinmeier is a foe! According to "Pereira" (previous comment) - Clever foe!
      1. Ami du peuple
        Ami du peuple 13 February 2016 11: 26 New
        23
        Quote: Baikonur
        Steinmeier - THE FIGHT!

        Maybe he should be raped himself? Then I would have understood at least something about "politicization" .. Or is a sexual crime against a high-ranking German official terrorism? I'm confused about the legal definition
        1. Pereira
          Pereira 13 February 2016 11: 37 New
          +8
          Sell ​​sexual slavery to Arabs-perverts.
          1. Baikonur
            Baikonur 13 February 2016 11: 41 New
            15
            In general, I’m glad that officially it began to be supported and strengthened.
            SHIELD concept: "I am a Citizen of the Russian Federation!" Our president and the Foreign Ministry began to fight for such an attitude of other countries to this! And our compatriots see this, proudly pronounce it, feel the support of the state! Not like before, when this phrase caused shame and the corresponding attitude of foreigners! And now they will think 100 times before contacting a citizen of the Russian Federation! (There is, of course, something else to work on, to strengthen!)

            PS: Remember how earlier in Gaully films: the Gaully actors said a little - "I am a citizen of the United States of America" ​​and everyone immediately treated him like a king!

            So it is necessary in relation to the Russian Federation!
            PS: We’ll also drop the bomb if you rock the boat !!!
            1. Ami du peuple
              Ami du peuple 13 February 2016 12: 09 New
              +7
              Quote: Baikonur
              our compatriots see it, proudly already pronounce it, feel the support of the state

              Tell Victor But and Konstantin Yaroshenko about this. Undoubtedly, sitting in an American prison on far-fetched accusations, he wholeheartedly and heartily feels the support of the Russian state.
              1. aktanir
                aktanir 13 February 2016 12: 29 New
                +6
                I think something similar and symmetrical should happen in Russia, when some girl of German origin in Moscow will be raped by Uzbeks, Tajiks or Moldovans. it will also have to be investigated, as it is now in Germany.
              2. V.ic
                V.ic 13 February 2016 12: 31 New
                +3
                Quote: Ami du peuple
                Viktor Bout and Konstantin Yaroshenko

                You "plyusanul", although ... the gansik "snapped" at the friendly (so far) criticism of Lavrov! The first clearly marked movements of Russian diplomacy, this is already a 100% positive factor, and the situation is a win-win according to all human norms and rules, and it is necessary to unleash this case by the same 100%. To poke and poke these same "homosexual-ropeus" in theirs "guano"!
              3. igorka357
                igorka357 13 February 2016 14: 02 New
                -3
                Sorry, the double-edged sword, Bout’s guilt, like Yaroshenko, has not been proved as ATTENTION ... and innocence! So early verb, the debriefing will be very long! If Bout and Yaroshenko are guilty, then they are dear if but no, you need to drag them in all ways from there!
                1. Ami du peuple
                  Ami du peuple 13 February 2016 16: 03 New
                  +3
                  Quote: igorka357
                  Bout's guilt, like Yaroshenko is not proven, as ATTENTION ... and innocence

                  Do not talk nonsense! In criminal proceedings, there is a key concept - the presumption of innocence. If the guilt of the defendant is not proven by the court, then he, a priori, is presumed innocent. And all doubts are interpreted in his favor.
                  1. igorka357
                    igorka357 13 February 2016 18: 48 New
                    -2
                    Only this innocent sitting during the investigation by the investigating authorities, in a pre-trial detention center, and no one is going to release him, or is it something different? Don't tell me about the notorious presumption, I’m well acquainted with it, but judging by your .. then it’s worthwhile to release maniacs during the investigation, because the court has not yet proved their guilt .. don’t tell me how long the Chikatilo case lasted, did you think he was not guilty all this time?
                    1. Ami du peuple
                      Ami du peuple 13 February 2016 19: 05 New
                      +2
                      Quote: igorka357
                      judging by your .. that maniac is worth releasing during the investigation, the court has not yet been proven

                      Oh, how everything is running .. You really do not see the difference between taking the suspect in custody (in view of the gravity of the alleged crime, the identity of the villain, etc. see the CPC) for the duration of the investigation and imprisonment by the sentence of a miracle? Booth and Yaroshenko were convicted by an American court with numerous procedural violations. ConvictedDo you understand? And the sentence entered into force. Those. the American side sent convicts to places of detention, whose guilt was not proved impartially and in full.
                      1. igorka357
                        igorka357 14 February 2016 07: 34 New
                        0
                        You distort, I’m talking about the fact that until the guilt is proved, the person is not guilty, and you tell me about the gravity of the alleged winked. I’m absolutely sure that you weren’t at the trial, I’m not familiarized with the case as in other matters! I’m also absolutely sure that you will not be able to name at least a couple of procedural errors or omissions of the Amer court! So you yourself judge now not impartially , you just say that the Americans didn’t place them legally and that’s all ... and who are you forgiving, Lord God? You essentially have nothing to say, because if you tell the truth without cunning, then their guilt-innocence is 50/50 for us ... and for some reason you are XNUMX% sure of their innocence! You are just a fool and not an objective viewer from the side, or you know something that no one knows, but they can kill you for that! And it’s not for you to judge my neglect in court proceedings! I think the discussion with you is over, because I do not see any further meaning in it!
            2. fn111
              fn111 13 February 2016 12: 10 New
              0
              Yes, yes, the bomb !! And necessarily "stupid", but very accurate!
          2. dr.star75
            dr.star75 13 February 2016 11: 54 New
            +5
            If he is the one about whom Lukashenka said: “it is better to be a dictator than a homosexual,” then you are unlikely to scare him.
        2. Ezhaak
          Ezhaak 13 February 2016 12: 30 New
          +5
          Quote: Ami du peuple
          Maybe he should be raped?

          No! In no case. He has a daughter born in 1994, which in all respects suits a voluntary sekas. In this case, from my point of view, the most suitable option! Whatever happens to her, she is personally guilty. Actively attracted, lured, provoked sexual harassment and personally raped 7 Arabs and 3 Turks.
        3. fif21
          fif21 13 February 2016 13: 09 New
          +1
          Quote: Ami du peuple
          Or is sex offense against a senior German official a terrorism?
          This is tolerance! And the basis of European values. Therefore he is so calm am
        4. The comment was deleted.
        5. the most important
          the most important 13 February 2016 14: 20 New
          +2
          Quote: Ami du peuple
          Or is sex offense against a senior German official a terrorism?

          maybe it's bestiality ???
        6. avva2012
          avva2012 13 February 2016 15: 45 New
          0
          Quote: Ami du peuple Maybe he should be raped himself? Then I would have understood at least something about "politicization" .. Or is a sexual crime against a high-ranking German official terrorism? I'm confused about the legal definition

          How do you know if he likes it? Maybe he is from the "blue hyenas"? And, well, yes, some unprintable expressions. Oh, Germans, Germans, what have you become. Only repatriates from Russia can stand up for themselves. All!
      2. lelikas
        lelikas 13 February 2016 11: 31 New
        +3
        Quote: Baikonur
        Those. in your country, a Russian citizen, a minor, has been raped cruelly, low, and are we POLITIZING?
        Here are the bastards! Nothing holy!

        Firstly, in Germany, secondly, a German citizen (dual citizenship is such dual), thirdly, even the lawyer did not say a word about violence - only about the abduction. Fourth - even no one filed a complaint with the police - that means nothing.
        So far, something like this. request
        Everyone who wanted happiness and freedom got it.
        1. Evil Kind
          Evil Kind 13 February 2016 12: 15 New
          +2
          Butcha went, in principle, because of the incompetent statements of a separate policeman that there was no rape and they would not conduct an investigation (according to Lisa's parents), although the investigation did not stop. They were afraid that the case would be "let down on the brakes" and began to "knock on all doors." How the girl was found (according to Liza's lawyer): she turned to a stranger on the street for help and he already turned to the police with her, strange, yes ... for consensual sex. According to the lawyer, she was not wearing all the clothes, there were no underwear and some kind of outerwear, the valuables were gone. Well, see for yourself, an interview with Lisa's lawyer: http://www.youtube.com/ watch? v = 7l9xauty9Fo
        2. dvina71
          dvina71 13 February 2016 12: 22 New
          +3
          Quote: lelikas
          secondly - a German citizen

          Secondly ... she’s 13 years old. The time of citizenship has not yet come. She is Russian by origin.
          1. lelikas
            lelikas 13 February 2016 15: 09 New
            -1
            Quote: dvina71
            Secondly ... she’s 13 years old. The time of citizenship has not yet come. She is Russian by origin.

            Seriously ? Do you think all German children are not German citizens?
            Up to 16 years old, she herself cannot write an application for its receipt - her parents do it. Further - the Germans do not consider her a citizen of the Russian Federation.
            1. dvina71
              dvina71 13 February 2016 15: 34 New
              0
              Quote: lelikas
              Seriously ?

              Seriously.
              1. lelikas
                lelikas 13 February 2016 18: 53 New
                0
                Quote: dvina71

                Seriously.

                Well - well, come on, tell us how a girl lived in Germany for 12 years, yeah. According to the "Certificate of Birth"?
                1. dvina71
                  dvina71 13 February 2016 23: 31 New
                  0
                  Quote: lelikas
                  Well - well, let's tell


                  Well, I tell you. The child, until adulthood, is under the care of parents (ideally). A person becomes a citizen only when he comes of age. 13 years is clearly not coming of age. Nothing prevents parents, guardians from contacting the Russian Embassy and obtaining Russian citizenship for the child, if she so desires. Without any delay.
                  1. lelikas
                    lelikas 14 February 2016 13: 56 New
                    0
                    Quote: dvina71
                    Well, I tell you. The child, until adulthood, is under the care of parents (ideally). A person becomes a citizen only when he comes of age. 13 years is clearly not coming of age. Nothing prevents parents, guardians from contacting the Russian Embassy and obtaining Russian citizenship for the child, if she so desires. Without any delay.

                    You don’t have to turn everything upside down, she was born in the Russian Federation and has Russian citizenship by default, German citizenship, they receive after 8 years of residence (maybe less for historical Germans), and now attention - By law, the German citizenship fee is 255 € per adult (over 16 years old) or 51 € per child. - catch the thought?
                    Further, for the Germans, she becomes a German citizen and they are in the Russian Federation, to put it mildly, on the side - from here and indignation. There, no one considers her as a citizen of the Russian Federation - only Germany. All .
                    Do not confuse obtaining a passport and citizenship.
        3. Altona
          Altona 13 February 2016 13: 37 New
          +2
          Quote: lelikas
          Firstly, in Germany, and secondly, a German citizen (dual citizenship is such dual)

          --------------------------
          Formally, dual citizenship in Russia and Germany is not encouraged. A friend of mine scolded Russia a month ago that she could not use her Soviet passport (!!!) to cross the border. In general, the very fact of violence should be considered without regard to who did it. Here Germany contradicts itself, flirting with "multiculturalism" as the USSR used to do with "friendship of peoples."
      3. avdkrd
        avdkrd 13 February 2016 12: 44 New
        0
        Quote: Baikonur
        Those. in your country, a Russian citizen, a minor, has been raped cruelly, low, and are we POLITIZING?
        Here are the bastards! Nothing holy! Nothing personal!

        Actually, a German citizen, a Russian-speaking one, was raped and that she was a Russian-speaking one, and Russia is preoccupied with the investigation and, according to Stefan Seibert, there is politicization. In fact, she is German and her parents consider themselves Germans. I don’t know how much really German blood is in the girl’s parents, but they consciously accepted German citizenship and it is difficult to consider this problem Russian. Perhaps our diplomats acted awkwardly like the Americans did when they demanded an investigation into Nemtsov or were suddenly worried about the conditions in Russian prisons. The fate of the injured girl is not a matter for our Foreign Ministry. Media support is normal, but official intervention or pressure from Russia does not look very logical. This case once again showed that only in your own country can you use the protection of the state and that Russian (Russian-speaking) will be safe only in Russia, well, maybe even in Israel. The West does not accept those who maintain Russian authenticity.
        1. avva2012
          avva2012 13 February 2016 15: 53 New
          0
          Quote: avdkrd Perhaps our diplomats acted clumsily like the Americans

          We are learning. Why are they climbing, but we can’t? It seems to me that there will be nothing to cover.
        2. dr.star75
          dr.star75 13 February 2016 16: 02 New
          0
          "The fate of the injured girl is not a matter for our Ministry of Foreign Affairs" - but not a fig! This is a matter of priority for our Ministry of Foreign Affairs!. And if in your semi-colony you cannot protect your citizens, then our RFs will help you.
        3. lelikas
          lelikas 13 February 2016 18: 58 New
          0
          Quote: avdkrd
          Actually, a German citizen, a Russian-speaking one, was raped and that she was a Russian-speaking one, and Russia is preoccupied with the investigation and, according to Stefan Seibert, there is politicization. In fact, she is German and her parents consider themselves Germans. I don’t know how much really German blood is in the girl’s parents, but they consciously accepted German citizenship and it is difficult to consider this problem Russian

          As much as I was talking about this, they’ve been in Germany since the 04th year and don’t have to be seven spans in the forehead — Lisa lived with us for a year, by the way they call her, in general, it’s not Lisa for a long time.
          I will not discuss all the facts of her biography, but not the flower clearly.
      4. vlad_vlad
        vlad_vlad 13 February 2016 14: 21 New
        -7
        how much can you duck this duck already? nobody rape anyone in Berlin! The journalist became bored, the fantasy completed the rest.
        there is a common story of shitty parents - when a child feels bad, he should go to his parents, and not hide with a Turkish friend and then see crap. where and when this girl was installed in minutes by the coordinates of the mobile phone. and all the other "participants" are already giving interviews - "they were not understood correctly"
        By the way, the correspondent was sued.

        and Steinmaer correctly said everything.
        1. kotvov
          kotvov 13 February 2016 18: 30 New
          +1
          and correctly Steinmaer said everything. ,,
          excellent, but let's turn it the other way around. A little 13 years old, disappears into the vast expanses, then it appears not quite adequate. To make Germany? I think the cry was raised right up to heaven. At the same time, you who are not able to protect your women, teach us life. in full.
      5. The comment was deleted.
      6. Sigizbarn
        Sigizbarn 14 February 2016 10: 07 New
        0
        In fact, the situation is even more interesting and for some reason everyone is silent about this.
        There is a concept of "age of consent", and it is practically in all fears from 16 to 18. Below only can in Arab countries.
        Therefore, forgive me of course, but 13 is clearly below 16. Therefore, any relationship between an adult and a person who has not reached the "age of consent" is, according to the law, equated to rape.
        Therefore, the statement that the girl herself gave and there is no reason to initiate proceedings, suggests that someone is artificially trying to hush up the issue. It is strange that no one asked these politicians the question of compliance with their own vaunted German law.
    2. NIKNN
      NIKNN 13 February 2016 11: 07 New
      +3
      Well, what is there in Syria, for refugees to puzzle? It’s about raping a politician that you just need to open your mouth more often ... request
      1. WKS
        WKS 13 February 2016 11: 13 New
        +8
        So the migrants raped? Well well. They say that they also pumped into the pool. And all this with the sanction of Lavrov? And these migrants are not migrants, but employees of the Russian embassy who performed special tasks.
      2. Urals
        Urals 13 February 2016 11: 14 New
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        Shtaymer I propose to arrange a day of the Airborne Forces in Cologne .. (we will find these freaks and deal with others) Let the police not interfere and the Germans walk freely and show who offended them!
        1. Ludendorff
          Ludendorff 13 February 2016 11: 32 New
          -5
          Quote: Ural
          Shtaymer I propose to arrange a day of the Airborne Forces in Cologne .. (we will find these freaks and deal with others) Let the police not interfere and the Germans walk freely and show who offended them!

          This is not the Airborne is a disgrace. Vodka will get drunk and begin to piss in the fountain, showing the children that the uncle is between his legs. I understand that flowers would be given to veterans, they would have thanked for the victory. But no..
          1. -Patriot-
            -Patriot- 13 February 2016 11: 39 New
            +9
            there are undoubtedly such airborne forces, just some have had cases when the parachute did not open.
          2. Pereira
            Pereira 13 February 2016 11: 41 New
            +9
            It happens, no one denies. But the Airborne Forces never tried to look glamorous, remove kitties from trees and transfer old women across the road in the wrong place.
            The main message is to be polite, and even better, bypass the Russian landing on the tenth road, otherwise you will see the same scene in Berlin. Once again.
            1. lelikas
              lelikas 13 February 2016 11: 58 New
              +3
              Quote: Pereira
              The main message - be polite, and even better, bypass the Russian landing tenth road

              A little strange is that he must be circumvented by those whom he must protect.
              1. Pereira
                Pereira 13 February 2016 17: 05 New
                +3
                This I do not justify in any way.
                But for me, it’s better than this:
          3. FREGATENKAPITAN
            FREGATENKAPITAN 13 February 2016 12: 31 New
            +3
            Well, let's say the Airborne Forces are nice guys and heroes (although we don’t like them traditionally as a submariner) ... a bunch of morons who gobbled up the wind in pigsties and water carriers are not paratroopers ...
          4. Homo
            Homo 13 February 2016 13: 56 New
            +2
            Quote: Ludendorff
            This is not the Airborne is a disgrace. Vodka will get drunk and begin to piss in the fountain, showing the children that the uncle is between his legs. I understand that flowers would be given to veterans, they would have thanked for the victory. But no..

            As the saying goes, "the family is not without its black sheep." But this is only a small part of those who served in the landing (or maybe not). I can show a photo of SS atrocities and roll a barrel on the entire German army! As they say in Russia, we see a speck in someone else's eye, but we don't notice it in our own log! am
          5. YGV-97219
            YGV-97219 13 February 2016 15: 11 New
            +2
            Some of you are not tolerant! It’s customary not to notice such behavior in Europe recently, especially from the new Afro-Europeans. In our country, such behavior is subject to unconditional condemnation!
          6. Platonich
            Platonich 13 February 2016 15: 39 New
            +3
            And what did you not show the American soldiers who justified all the gay European countries! By the way a lot of these photos. Please look and lay it out!
          7. Platonich
            Platonich 13 February 2016 16: 01 New
            0
            And look for the valiant American zoldatins, how they defecate on the corpses of civilians and in European countries!
          8. the villain
            the villain 14 February 2016 05: 22 New
            0
            Angry paratroopers offended the Academician ... I wonder what the Academician was talking about from the roof of the van ??? Why not a word about this ??? Maybe something offensive and unworthy propagated ??? It smacks of provocation, IMHO hi
          9. the villain
            the villain 14 February 2016 05: 31 New
            0
            Quote: Ludendorff
            This is not the Airborne is a disgrace. Vodka will get drunk and begin to piss in the fountain, showing the children that the uncle is between his legs.

            What are you saying ... The NATO contingent behaved in a dignified and respectful manner during exercises in the Baltic states, and no one pushed past ballot boxes in the streets yes
    3. kapitan92
      kapitan92 13 February 2016 11: 10 New
      +7
      "- Our answer to Chamberlain ... Chamberlain is the head. And Lloyd George is also the head." .. bully
      (Golden calf)
      1. captain
        captain 13 February 2016 11: 26 New
        +6
        As the German leadership got nervous, it is unpleasant to hear hard-hitting things about yourself, but how to teach others, then Merkel and the team are ahead of the rest. There is a good Russian proverb; "do with others as you want, so that they would do to you."
    4. alex-cn
      alex-cn 13 February 2016 11: 10 New
      19
      Imagine that this happened in Russia with a German girl ...
      I think that not only would Lavrov be bombarded with protest notes, but they would have been let down by all possible law enforcement agencies, and perhaps they would have demanded an international investigation ... I believe that our Foreign Ministry has responded quietly.
      1. Corporal Valera
        Corporal Valera 13 February 2016 11: 32 New
        +4
        that before the disappearance, there was sexual contact by mutual agreement between the girl

        "Girl" is 13 years old, if so !!! What is the mutual agreement? Why are they all there, smell glue? And what does the "end of Russia" and "oil prices" have to do with it? Where is the logic? No, well, exactly, d @ bily bl @ db
    5. Barnaul, Altai
      Barnaul, Altai 13 February 2016 11: 15 New
      +6
      Only a subject in politics who:
      1) Expresses own opinion;
      2) To the best of his knowledge, he acts in his own interests, and not in the interests of the one who knows more.
      3) Sees the consequences of his and others' actions.

      This "cleverness", as you called it, is not a subject, but an object of politics ...
      With a slightly larger grin than other mongrels (but the size of the screaming pharynx does not matter).
      Such "authorities" will lead Germany to the collapse of statehood.
      1. am808s
        am808s 13 February 2016 13: 32 New
        +1
        In vain YOU ARE GERMAN'S EYES OPEN MORE THANE such idiots who are trying to cover up the people for them, then maybe they will understand what kind of trash the people are immersing in.
    6. northern
      northern 13 February 2016 11: 23 New
      +5
      Is this Stein himself not a pedophile for an hour? something painfully zealously protects lovers of youngsters.
      1. Michael67
        Michael67 13 February 2016 11: 51 New
        +3
        He sings songs in the same stream as the whole west. These "partners" have a well-coordinated chorus. Everyone sings his own part, and the opera is called How We Hate RUSSIA.
    7. Lt. Air Force stock
      Lt. Air Force stock 13 February 2016 11: 45 New
      +3
      Quote: Pereira
      Steinmeier - this is a piss!

      They all have a moral superiority there in Europe. Every day they pour dirt on Russia, while extolling Europe and the USA. Read the InoTV website, which translates the news resources of Western countries and not only everything will become clear, 99,9% of information regarding Russia is mud pouring.
      https://russian.rt.com/inotv
    8. gergi
      gergi 13 February 2016 16: 50 New
      0
      Steinmeier is homosexual. That says a lot.
      1. northern
        northern 13 February 2016 18: 46 New
        0
        confirmed info? for it explains a lot.
    9. Sorokin
      Sorokin 13 February 2016 20: 57 New
      0
      And let me rape Shtanmaer, or rather just sleep with him through 2 Uzbeks. What will the pirdosin say?
  2. Bacha
    Bacha 13 February 2016 11: 04 New
    +5
    Here again, these vile Russians! Refugees did not please them ... Geyropa in a word.
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    1. Bath
      Bath 13 February 2016 12: 47 New
      0
      in what it means we hold with both hands they can’t utter a word))) wink oh these migrants
  4. pavel12345
    pavel12345 13 February 2016 11: 05 New
    +7
    The Germans will still sip from their "peaceful refugees", they will not be on the sidelines for sure
    1. Amurets
      Amurets 13 February 2016 12: 10 New
      +1
      Quote: pavel12345
      The Germans will still sip from their "peaceful refugees", they will not be on the sidelines for sure

      These refugees are perfectly adopting the experience of the Nazi units "Nachtigall" "Bradenburg", but when the German special services wake up, it will be already late, and with their telerance and indecision, the Germans will urgently need Russian airports in Antarctica for the German "refugees away." Steinmeier is a smart man, I would never have thought that he would begin to carry nonsense looking at Merkel, who began to thin the brains and rapidly progressing dementia.
  5. VNP1958PVN
    VNP1958PVN 13 February 2016 11: 05 New
    +2
    reports of alleged rape fuel enmity in Berlin. Foreign Minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier said that there is no reason or excuse to use the case of a 13-year-old girl for political propaganda and thereby warm up the already heated debate in Germany on the issue of migrants.

    I can’t even imagine how the Germans would have dared to run so brazenly before the era of the target belay
  6. aszzz888
    aszzz888 13 February 2016 11: 06 New
    +6
    Steinmeier put Lavrov in place


    In fact, the opposite is true. And about this S.V. Lavrov gave an explanation. And the fact that nemchura cheated with migrants, so they want to transfer from a sick mind to a healthy one. It is not for nothing that dirty pearls are coming, that Russia is to blame for their relocation to the geyropa.
    1. vic58
      vic58 13 February 2016 11: 22 New
      +4
      It’s just a shame for the Germans that at first they took up women and girls. West Germany Geyropa !! hi
      1. lysyj bob
        lysyj bob 13 February 2016 12: 35 New
        +1
        Quote: aszzz888
        Steinmeier put Lavrov in place


        The commentary for the Russia-France football match reminded me, I don’t remember which year:
        - ... Smertin beats Zidane ... Hmm, that sounds good ...
  7. Nord2015
    Nord2015 13 February 2016 11: 07 New
    +9
    And in Cologne, too, was everything by agreement? Hushing up a problem is not its solution.
    And in fact: do you not believe that 13-year-olds today voluntarily enter into intimate relationships? What world do you live in?
    Glory to God is not tolerant.
    1. Zeppelin ml.
      Zeppelin ml. 13 February 2016 11: 21 New
      -12 qualifying.
      Quote: Nord2015
      And in fact: do you not believe that 13-year-olds today voluntarily enter into intimate relationships? What world do you live in?
      Glory to God is not tolerant.

      in Kapotnya, a certain Valya Isaeva gave birth to Gaster at the age of 11. So what does tolerance have to do with it?
      1. Nord2015
        Nord2015 13 February 2016 11: 30 New
        +2
        Quote: Zeppelin ml.
        in Kapotnya, a certain Valya Isaeva gave birth to Gaster at the age of 11

        I hope this Gaster is now sitting. And in the zone this is a very unpopular article.
        1. Zeppelin ml.
          Zeppelin ml. 13 February 2016 11: 39 New
          -2
          Quote: Nord2015
          I hope this Gaster is now sitting.

          no, not sitting.
      2. Ezhaak
        Ezhaak 13 February 2016 12: 46 New
        +1
        Quote: Zeppelin ml.
        gave birth to Gaster at 11 years old

        Put a minus for saying the name of a youngster. This is prohibited in Russia, as well as a demonstration of the face.
        1. Zeppelin ml.
          Zeppelin ml. 13 February 2016 13: 04 New
          -4
          Quote: Hedgehog
          Put a minus for saying the name of a youngster. This is prohibited in Russia, as well as a demonstration of the face.

          Lol! The girl is already quite an adult at the moment.
          And the Uzbek was given three years probation and was not even deported (according to the media)
    2. northern
      northern 13 February 2016 11: 26 New
      +4
      The age of consent in Germany is 13? do not carry nonsense about voluntary with two chocks.
      1. Simple
        Simple 13 February 2016 12: 07 New
        +1
        The age of sexual consent in Germany is 14 years, with reservations (16 and 18 years) and second-person variations before 21 and after 21 years.
        In Spain, before 1995, Sun was 12, then 13 from 2012: 14 years.

        Note: The self-proclaimed state of the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus is the only jurisdiction in Europe that still has a law against comdom prohibiting anal sex.
        1. northern
          northern 13 February 2016 13: 48 New
          +1
          already for this alone Northern Cyprus will not be taken to the EU never
    3. Stanislas
      Stanislas 13 February 2016 11: 42 New
      +2
      Quote: Nord2015
      You do not believe that 13-year-olds today voluntarily enter into an intimate relationship?
      Good question. Just a small clarification: You do not believe that 13-year-old Germans today voluntarily enter into intimate relations with a group of men of southern appearance? Hike they have there brothels for "political correctness" will soon begin to be called "women's harem".
      1. Zeppelin ml.
        Zeppelin ml. 13 February 2016 11: 48 New
        -5
        Quote: Stanislav
        "female harems"

        are there "male harems"? I haven't heard of polyandry in Europe yet.
        1. Stanislas
          Stanislas 13 February 2016 14: 38 New
          0
          Quote: Zeppelin ml.
          I have not heard of polyandry in Europe yet.
          You want to say that there is an intolerant quota - one wife per refugee ?! You are just a political intriguer, so to lower Europe! laughing Or maybe who screwed the earplugs into the ears? Be sure to check!
      2. Evil Kind
        Evil Kind 13 February 2016 12: 27 New
        0
        Yes, by agreement, at first they were intimidated, most likely, or at least psychologically crushed gradually, and of course then everything happened by "consent". Well, how we have a gopot of "suckers" (intellectuals) breeds, it seems that it should not do anything, but suddenly it turns out that it should.
        1. Zeppelin ml.
          Zeppelin ml. 13 February 2016 12: 53 New
          -2
          Quote: Evil Good Man
          Yes, by agreement, at first they were intimidated, most likely, or at least psychologically crushed gradually, and of course then everything happened by "consent".

          speculation and hypothesis - things are fascinating, no doubt)
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  8. super.ufu
    super.ufu 13 February 2016 11: 07 New
    +7
    And exactly TopVar not hacked?
    That is a joyful article that "Lavrov was put in place", then an article proving that there were no blockade or casualties.
    I don’t see anyone putting someone somewhere.

    Are you guys all right there?
    1. raid14
      raid14 13 February 2016 11: 16 New
      0
      They probably have a razor throat, I'll go look in the well.
    2. Egoza
      Egoza 13 February 2016 11: 25 New
      +8
      Quote: super.ufu
      I don’t see anyone putting someone somewhere.

      Quotes are clearly missing in the title of the article. The foreign diplomat who could put our Lavrov in his place has not yet been born
      1. Olezhek
        13 February 2016 11: 33 New
        0
        1 to 1 Translation
        Doing "editing" the opinion of "that" side is not ice ...
        That's how they see the situation. No.
    3. Banshee
      Banshee 13 February 2016 14: 48 New
      0
      It's okay Razor nobody slashed.

      However, if you look up at the top of the screen, you will see that this is the "OPINION" heading, where anyone can post their opinion.

      Feel the difference!
  9. Victor-M
    Victor-M 13 February 2016 11: 07 New
    +5
    Steinmeier put Lavrov in place

    And where did you put it, where? laughing
    From all appearances, this is just the opposite, indefatigable nemchuru poked mugs into her excrement, so they have such a reaction. laughing
    1. Zeppelin ml.
      Zeppelin ml. 13 February 2016 11: 24 New
      +1
      Quote: Victor-M
      And where did you put it, where?

      Yes, nobody put anyone. The addiction to catchy headlines is simple.
      1. Olezhek
        13 February 2016 11: 37 New
        0
        That was the title of the article in Tsaytov.
        And 527 comments.
        Generally RussiaPutinzlyvarvarydobryegnomy now there in the top
        1. Zeppelin ml.
          Zeppelin ml. 13 February 2016 11: 59 New
          0
          Quote: Olezhek
          That was the title of the article in Tsaytov.

          But what do Die Zeit magazine people don’t like catchy headlines? All are covered with one myrrh, and ours, too, sometimes do not climb into our pockets for a word.
    2. cap
      cap 13 February 2016 11: 44 New
      0
      Quote: Victor-M
      Steinmeier put Lavrov in place

      And where did you put it, where? laughing
      From all appearances, this is just the opposite, indefatigable nemchuru poked mugs into her excrement, so they have such a reaction. laughing


      Steinmeier put Lavrov in a place he didn’t leave, confirming with his statement the status of Russian ambassador Lavrov, and he remained in the same place where he was (f @ gt), one on one with a bunch of sexually preoccupied migrants. Let's see how Germany will survive , and Europe in general, the spring aggravation of loonies.
  10. OlegV
    OlegV 13 February 2016 11: 08 New
    +2
    ...... incite hostility in Berlin ....


    but as if, when we were bosom friends)))
    1. bashkort
      bashkort 13 February 2016 11: 42 New
      0
      There were when Berlin was the capital of the GDR. By the way, a good precedent))
    2. Olezhek
      13 February 2016 11: 45 New
      0
      There is incitement of interethnic hatred of "different" Berliners
      Now it is there in the top.
      That is why the leaders of Germany are "abuzz".
      1. Zeppelin ml.
        Zeppelin ml. 13 February 2016 12: 02 New
        0
        Quote: Olezhek
        Now it is there in the top.

        true, the first channel devotes a lot of its air time to this topic. However, I have not heard any sane recipes for breaking the deadlock.
        1. Olezhek
          13 February 2016 12: 18 New
          0
          Whose first?
          Our or German?
          (They also have the first channel)
          1. Zeppelin ml.
            Zeppelin ml. 13 February 2016 12: 58 New
            0
            Quote: Olezhek
            Whose first?
            Our or German?

            Of course, I'm talking about German.
  11. lewerlin53rus
    lewerlin53rus 13 February 2016 11: 08 New
    +6
    Steinmeier put Lavrov in place

    Lavrov and so on in its place. In contrast, for example, from Merkel, whose place is perhaps only in the brothel for serving gerontophiles.
  12. Siberia 9444
    Siberia 9444 13 February 2016 11: 09 New
    +2
    Six American as a grandmother Merkel.
    1. Zeppelin ml.
      Zeppelin ml. 13 February 2016 11: 11 New
      -13 qualifying.
      Quote: Siberia 9444
      Six American as a grandmother Merkel.

      Is this what it is? What is Steinmeer wrong?
      1. Siberia 9444
        Siberia 9444 13 February 2016 11: 50 New
        +3
        This is to the fact that such a country and nation does not have its own opinion, there is no army since it is acupunctured by American military bases in the amount of 287 pieces, even the country's gold is held by amers
        1. Zeppelin ml.
          Zeppelin ml. 13 February 2016 12: 05 New
          -7
          Quote: Siberia 9444
          This is to the fact that such a country and nation does not have its own opinion, there is no army since it is acupunctured by American military bases in the amount of 287 pieces, even the country's gold is held by amers

          it’s fun to read text without punctuation. laughing "Who stood on whom? Take the trouble to express your thoughts more clearly" (c)
          1. Siberia 9444
            Siberia 9444 13 February 2016 14: 40 New
            0
            Sorry, please, Siberian boots, a teacher of Russian.
            1. Zeppelin ml.
              Zeppelin ml. 13 February 2016 15: 42 New
              -2
              Quote: Siberia 9444
              Sorry, please, Siberian boots, a teacher of Russian.

              Yes, I, in fact, do not criticize your relationship with punctuation, it's not my business smile Well I say:
              Quote: Zeppelin ml.
              cool

              and all)

              but with regard to the Bundeswehr and other things: "What do you have, whatever you miss, there is nothing!" (c). Well, at least there is still beer in the Hofbräuhaus, and that's good ...
  13. lysyj bob
    lysyj bob 13 February 2016 11: 11 New
    +6
    "I would ask him why the Germans from Russia came here and did not stay in Russia. Not knowing the situation, they go out to the demonstration. If it is so bad here, there is a plane to Russia."

    The phrase amused. The Germans from Russia feel bad - let them go to Russia. Yeah. But not the Germans from the Middle East are very good. Nobody drives them even after Cologne. Soon these non-Germans will say to the indigenous people: "if you feel bad here with US - there is a plane, take it wherever you want."
    1. Sharapov
      Sharapov 13 February 2016 11: 22 New
      0
      So the immigrant Germans suggested that the Russian Germans leave for Russia for comment. Do not go to Wang ...
      1. Zeppelin ml.
        Zeppelin ml. 13 February 2016 11: 29 New
        -6
        Quote: Sharapov
        So immigrant Germans

        for a moment, they are no longer immigrants.
        1. Stanislas
          Stanislas 13 February 2016 14: 46 New
          0
          Quote: Zeppelin ml.
          for a moment, they are no longer immigrants.
          You can't tell them that, go to your Turkey, as to the parents of a raped 13-year-old girl, go to Russia? Well, it's scary, they may not understand so well, they are not yet fully assimilated Aryans Germans, right? If you hope to defeat Russia with them, they may not agree, because it is rumored that the rapists here are doing sects in the zones.
          1. Zeppelin ml.
            Zeppelin ml. 13 February 2016 15: 49 New
            -1
            Quote: Stanislav
            You can’t tell them that way, go to your Turkey

            of course, they don't consider Turkey "theirs" for a long time)
            Quote: Stanislav
            How can the parents of a raped 13-year-old girl "go to Russia"?

            Well, if you pull out a similar slag from the Runet, then there are also many offers to "blame", addressed to non-title ones, this is not an indicator of "intolerance" and "Russophobia", I think.
            Quote: Stanislav
            If you hope to defeat Russia with them

            curious passage. Actually, what about "win"?
  14. Monster_Fat
    Monster_Fat 13 February 2016 11: 12 New
    +6
    In general, Shtanmeier did what a government official who defends the interests of his country is obliged to do - he laid siege to his opponent from another country. And here in Russia, in every possible way, the inclinations of our so-called "partners" are constantly "poking their nose" into our affairs, to lecture us in any case, from our "Ministry of Foreign Affairs" only "indistinct mumbles", "streamlined commenting" ( God forbid, someone there will be offended!) or generally silent. It is only recently that we have begun to respond to the actions of the "sworn" partners.
  15. evil partisan
    evil partisan 13 February 2016 11: 13 New
    +3
    Steinmeier fits:

    “A cow is a mammal. She has six sides - right, left, upper, lower, front and back. At the back, she has a tail on which a brush hangs. She drives away flies to them so that they do not fall into milk. Her head is for horns to grow on her and for her mouth to be somewhere. Her horns are for butting, and her mouth is for mooing. Milk is hanging under the cow. How the cow does it, I still do not understand, but she does it all the time. The cow has a subtle scent; it can be sniffed from afar. That is why there is fresh air in the village. The cow does not eat much, but what she eats, she eats twice, so she has enough. When she is hungry, she mumbles, and when she does not say anything, it means that she is stuffed with grass inside. ”
    1. lysyj bob
      lysyj bob 13 February 2016 11: 18 New
      +1
      Quote: Angry Guerrilla
      The cow has a delicate sense of smell; she can be sniffed from afar


      This phrase is most suitable for Western politicians.
  16. Armax
    Armax 13 February 2016 11: 14 New
    +6
    The comments are gorgeous, the Germans have a mess in their head about Russia.
    1. Urals
      Urals 13 February 2016 11: 22 New
      +3
      Quote: ArMax
      The comments are gorgeous, the Germans have a mess in their head about Russia.

      The Russian Germans stayed there .. The rest, just ...! Well, is it true? There’s no one to even fight with ...
    2. Zeppelin ml.
      Zeppelin ml. 13 February 2016 11: 22 New
      0
      Quote: ArMax
      The comments are gorgeous, the Germans have a mess in their head about Russia.

      What about the Germans?
      1. Armax
        Armax 13 February 2016 12: 05 New
        +1
        Quote: Zeppelin ml.
        What about the Germans?

        My relatives’s wife left there in the early 90s.
        Already quite tolerant and multicultural, after communication, the impression of some kind of infantility remains, but of course there are sober-minded people everywhere. Up to the Bundestag.
        But in general I agree, we understand each other less and less.
        1. Zeppelin ml.
          Zeppelin ml. 13 February 2016 12: 29 New
          -1
          Quote: ArMax
          But in general I agree, we understand each other less and less.

          because we don’t strive. Understanding the opponent does not fit into the trend. As they say:
          "Everyone is right in his own way ... But in my opinion - no .." (c)
          1. Stanislas
            Stanislas 13 February 2016 15: 35 New
            0
            Quote: Zeppelin ml.
            Everyone is right in his own way
            Are you suggesting to believe in the "correctness" of the one who claims that a 13-year-old child was fed up with pleasures with classmates and was not afraid to go to some unknown place "in agreement" with a group of "southern men"? That you each have rights in their own way, but it is necessary that truth and falsehood be distinguished, then people will more quickly understand each other, if you are "for understanding." What to believe? The worst (other than the fact of violence, if any) in this story is that the first clumsy attempts to hush up the case brought it to such widespread publicity.
            1. Zeppelin ml.
              Zeppelin ml. 13 February 2016 16: 44 New
              -1
              Quote: Stanislav
              Everyone is right in your own way

              I do not offer anything. This is an aphorism of A. Knyshev (if you know who it is).
              Quote: Stanislav
              A 13-year-old child was fed up with pleasures with classmates and was not afraid to go to some unknown place "in agreement" with a group of "men of southern appearance"?
              it is, in fact, your fantasies and hypotheses.

              Quote: Stanislav
              clumsy attempts to hush up the case led him to such wide publicity.

              why "clumsy" and why "hush up"? How, in fact, is this case different from other similar ones, which are daily initiated by the prosecutor's office? Because of the tag "Russian girl"? The vague circumstances of the incident somehow do not really fit with "we do not abandon our own" and "the girl is Russian! Berlin must be taken !!!" This makes no sense.
      2. dvina71
        dvina71 13 February 2016 12: 37 New
        +1
        Quote: Zeppelin ml.
        What about the Germans?


        We basically regret .. What is a people, a true warrior people and deserving of respect as a warrior .., became xs understand who. And how after Cologne to respect them? For what?
        My grandfather is a sniper, he fought with them for 43.5 years and I never heard anything bad about the Germans. If he did, it was only respectful. But the Poles openly despised .. even the allies, but such cowards.
        Today the Poles will rather put presumptuous "guests" in their place, and the Germans will put on skirts ..
        1. Zeppelin ml.
          Zeppelin ml. 13 February 2016 14: 29 New
          -1
          Quote: dvina71
          43.5 years fought with them

          something long ...
          1. dvina71
            dvina71 13 February 2016 15: 20 New
            0
            Quote: Zeppelin ml.
            something long ...

            Chinese Claudia ..)) 3.5g Since the summer of 42g, when ours began to retreat, after the failure of the Kharkov offensive. And I ended up in Konigsberg .., like many "Stalingraders". At the age of 20.
            1. Zeppelin ml.
              Zeppelin ml. 13 February 2016 16: 01 New
              0
              Quote: dvina71
              Quote: Zeppelin ml.
              something long ...

              Chinese Claudia ..)) 3.5g Since the summer of 42g, when ours began to retreat, after the failure of the Kharkov offensive. And I ended up in Konigsberg .., like many "Stalingraders". At the age of 20.

              there were people ...
              3,5 - this is a huge period by the standards of the war.
              20 years ... the boy, in fact ...
              1. dvina71
                dvina71 13 February 2016 17: 02 New
                0
                Quote: Zeppelin ml.
                20 years ... the boy, in fact ...

                Yes .. He was born in 27g, the military commissariat turned a blind eye to what he corrected in documents 7 by 4. There was such a time. The Red Army rolled to the Don and took everyone. 1942 .. 16 years. my daughter is now 18..on a child .. How? How can you become a warrior at 16? And go through the whole battle of Stalingrad from the first to the last day. First, an ordinary infantryman, then a machine gunner, and finally a sniper.
  17. valera
    valera 13 February 2016 11: 14 New
    0
    It’s bad that no one put Steinmeer in his place when he opened his dead mouth to UrFU.
    1. Zeppelin ml.
      Zeppelin ml. 13 February 2016 14: 40 New
      -2
      Quote: Valera
      It’s bad that no one put Steinmeer in his place when he opened his dead mouth to UrFU.

      and what is wrong? “Honorary Doctor of the Ural Federal University named after the first President of Russia B.N. Yeltsin, "he did not appoint himself, I think. laughing
  18. atlantida04
    atlantida04 13 February 2016 11: 15 New
    +3
    How did he squeal that they crawled into their problems, that they had a rule of law, and in those states where they crawled? Neither in eastern nor in southern Europe there are no legal states, what to speak of the Middle East and North Africa, so there are generally Papuans according to their logic.
  19. LÄRZ
    LÄRZ 13 February 2016 11: 16 New
    +3
    Foreign Minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier said that there is no reason or excuse to use the 13-year-old girl’s case for political propaganda and thereby fuel the already heated debate in Germany on the issue of migrants.
    What, handsome, do not like it when you are being bullied according to your own rules? Wipe yourself off. This is the year of the "fire monkey" in China, and the year of the "roast rooster" has come for you.
  20. vic58
    vic58 13 February 2016 11: 16 New
    +2
    Just as a child, Lavrov was fond of "The Three Musketeers", and Steinmeier - the German "film industry"! That's the difference in approach to this event ...
  21. bikeev1234
    bikeev1234 13 February 2016 11: 16 New
    +1
    What the Germans generally talk about, Dermocracy, so we are like a backward nation and cannot condemn them. They (the geyropa) are afraid of the rebirth of Russia in any form, the Russian people have always been reborn rely on the Jesuit agreements signed by you, supposedly justifying you. They are not worth the paper they are written on. Therefore, it’s worth playing with the Russians honestly or not at all.) It's time to go for dividends!
  22. Dezinto
    Dezinto 13 February 2016 11: 17 New
    -1
    Psaki - 2 ..........
    1. Zeppelin ml.
      Zeppelin ml. 13 February 2016 11: 29 New
      +1
      Quote: DEZINTO
      Psaki - 2 ..........

      Who are you?
  23. Gormenghast
    Gormenghast 13 February 2016 11: 17 New
    +4
    Steinmeier and company; history lessons.
    1. Urals
      Urals 13 February 2016 11: 37 New
      0
      Listen to the steamer of the Russian boys! Now they know everything .... and for what!
  24. DMB3000
    DMB3000 13 February 2016 11: 24 New
    +2
    Steinmeier 6ka.
  25. Tusv
    Tusv 13 February 2016 11: 25 New
    +1
    I'm certainly not a lawyer. but
    Article 126 of the Criminal Code, paragraph 2 a, c, d. already up to 12 years old and no politics
    1. Zeppelin ml.
      Zeppelin ml. 13 February 2016 11: 34 New
      -1
      Quote: Tusv
      I'm certainly not a lawyer. but
      Article 126 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation

      since when should the Germans be guided by the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation?
      And what does the "abduction" have to do with it? Even a lawyer pulls up an article on pedophilia.
      Quote: Tusv
      and no politics

      this is exactly what Steinmayer says, by the way - do not throw Mr. .. on a political fan. At least until the end of the investigation.
      1. Tusv
        Tusv 13 February 2016 12: 37 New
        -1
        Quote: Zeppelin-ml
        since when should the Germans be guided by the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation?
        And what does the "abduction" have to do with it? Even a lawyer pulls an article on pedophilia

        I cited an article from the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation, according to which the default term is, without others, which Mr. Steinmayer denies. Abduction, it is also in Germany abduction
        By the way, the prosecutor pulls the accusatory line. Somehow it didn’t work out for you with a lawyer
        1. Zeppelin ml.
          Zeppelin ml. 13 February 2016 12: 43 New
          -1
          Quote: Tusv
          by which the default term is, without others, which Mr. Steinmeier denies.

          don't give a damn. what he denies there. The court decides.
          Quote: Tusv
          Abduction, it is also in Germany abduction

          yeah, if proven.
  26. midivan
    midivan 13 February 2016 11: 26 New
    +2
    there, like the old hag merkel was going to us? can her identity, well this repeat rape, and then talk about ethnic hatred yes
    1. Zeppelin ml.
      Zeppelin ml. 13 February 2016 11: 41 New
      0
      Quote: midivan
      was the old hag merkel going to us? can her identity too, well this is rape

      God, what a nonsense ...
      1. midivan
        midivan 13 February 2016 12: 24 New
        +2
        Quote: Zeppelin ml.
        God, what a nonsense ...

        don't stand so loud call me Ivan smile Have you heard about such a rare word sarcasm? although if it’s for cleanliness then the hag would not hurt for humanization and general development on the topic of democracy and tolerance
        1. Zeppelin ml.
          Zeppelin ml. 13 February 2016 12: 44 New
          -1
          Quote: midivan
          Have you heard about such a rare word sarcasm?

          Well, suppose I heard something. And you?
  27. Corvetkapitan
    Corvetkapitan 13 February 2016 11: 26 New
    +1
    There are no grounds or excuses for the FRG government, which betrayed its own people by letting in a bunch of foreign bandits and terrorists whose crimes the FRG government is silent and leaves unpunished.
  28. tolmachiev51
    tolmachiev51 13 February 2016 11: 26 New
    +1
    Lies in politics !!! Lies go all the way. What kind of statesmen? linking to the media / Internet /. The devil in the person of the United States is trying to take over the world.
  29. sabakina
    sabakina 13 February 2016 11: 27 New
    +6
    It seems that Steinmeier got rams ...
  30. Gormenghast
    Gormenghast 13 February 2016 11: 28 New
    +5
    Steinmeier does not see rape; lift him any eyelids. laughing
    1. Zeppelin ml.
      Zeppelin ml. 13 February 2016 11: 37 New
      -8
      Quote: Gormengast
      Steinmeier doesn't see rape

      why are you sure that it took place? Familiar with the case file?
  31. DON-100
    DON-100 13 February 2016 11: 32 New
    +3
    I don’t know what actually happened there, if the girl is a citizen of Russia, then the attention of our Ministry of Foreign Affairs and the press to this case is understandable, but if she is a German citizen, even if she is Russian, then what does this have to do with us? Are we ourselves all right with crime, with violence against children? In general, all this propaganda hysteria in our media about migrants serves only to distract the population from problems in their own country. About the strike of truck drivers due to the introduction of Platon, the word was not mentioned in the news on federal channels, they simply ignored it, as if these people did not exist at all, but every day they paint the horrors of "dying Europe" under the influx of migrants. Yes, I personally do not care about this Europe, even if they are all raped, let them solve their problems themselves.
    1. Stanislas
      Stanislas 13 February 2016 11: 56 New
      0
      Quote: DON-100
      all this propaganda hysteria in our media
      And you, as specially, have the EU flag marked. Right moment of truth laughing
      1. DON-100
        DON-100 13 February 2016 12: 27 New
        +1
        Really very funny. How could I be so burnt what You clearly deserve a medal for vigilance wink
  32. Papapg
    Papapg 13 February 2016 11: 32 New
    0
    Enemies! They were enemies, there are enemies, and they will be enemies! The main thing is to be systematic and predictable!
    1. Zeppelin ml.
      Zeppelin ml. 13 February 2016 12: 31 New
      -3
      Quote: Papapg
      Enemies!

      name at least one friend. Well, besides a battered quote from Alexander III)
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  34. Million
    Million 13 February 2016 11: 39 New
    0
    Steinmeier and his Germany lay down under the Arabs and are still trying to put Lavrov in place.
  35. oxana_iv
    oxana_iv 13 February 2016 11: 39 New
    +1
    Recently, an interview was published with a lawyer of this very Lisa (I don’t remember the source, sorry). The lawyer said that at the time the girl disappeared, no one raped her, but she was raped a few months before, only she was afraid to admit because of girlish modesty, etc.))) In general, the story is ambiguous, and the fact that the media made a fuss without understanding is a fact. There is also an information war on the part of Russia, and this is natural and logical.

    And Lavrov, as always, was extremely accurate in formulations. He asked not to hush up the results of the investigation, after which Steinmeier got nervous. Sergey Viktorovich fat plus!
    1. Zeppelin ml.
      Zeppelin ml. 13 February 2016 11: 42 New
      0
      Quote: oxana_iv
      Recently, an interview was published with a lawyer of this very Lisa (I don’t remember the source, sorry).

      German wave.
  36. Olegater
    Olegater 13 February 2016 11: 40 New
    +1
    It can be seen that the owl (shtanmer) is not important. Soon he will leave his post due to circumstances beyond his control, but in the end so sharp. And most importantly, the truth comes out and shows the complete collapse of all government agencies in Germany, as an independent state controlled by the mattress of Germany is no longer there. It seems that in Europe, everything went into pieces.
    1. Paranoid50
      Paranoid50 13 February 2016 12: 50 New
      +3
      Quote: Olegater
      It seems that in Europe, everything went into pieces.

      This impression is not only with us. There (in Europe) more or less adequate people, including a few politicians, understand this. The same French colleague Steinmeier, having cooked in this "bowler hat", apparently decided: "It all went well!" and left himself. It is understandable, because with "cooks" such as Hollande's rags and his amorphous neighbor, normal political "porridge" cannot be cooked; only a fetid heap comes out that stinks all over the world.
  37. roskot
    roskot 13 February 2016 11: 40 New
    0
    Which Germans are friends? They were never friends ever. Just partners.
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      1. Zeppelin ml.
        Zeppelin ml. 13 February 2016 11: 51 New
        -6
        Quote: Ural
        We will water everyone!

        the funny thing is that, judging by the negotiations on the air, the three of them were "soaked" by one. laughing
        1. midivan
          midivan 13 February 2016 12: 33 New
          +2
          Quote: Zeppelin ml.
          the funny thing is that, judging by the negotiations on the air, the three of them were "soaked" by one.

          and the striped purely one-on-one with the Vietnamese came out into the open field? can we change the flag to European? it would be more honest smile or does helium prevent the earth from dropping?
          1. Zeppelin ml.
            Zeppelin ml. 13 February 2016 12: 56 New
            -5
            Quote: midivan
            or does helium prevent the earth from dropping?

            "I can see everything from above, you just know ..." (c) laughing
            1. Paranoid50
              Paranoid50 13 February 2016 13: 12 New
              +2
              Quote: Zeppelin ml.
              "I can see everything from above, you just know ..." (c)

              This song was not sung at the Hindenburg.
              1. Zeppelin ml.
                Zeppelin ml. 13 February 2016 13: 48 New
                -3
                Quote: Paranoid50
                This song was not sung at the "Hindenburg"

                A march of Taike Graf Zeppelin without words at all laughing
  38. Zheka40
    Zheka40 13 February 2016 11: 44 New
    0
    About-put in place))). I doubt it)
  39. realist
    realist 13 February 2016 11: 44 New
    0
    But what is the point for us to discuss with a representative of the country of victorious same-sex love? who are they to us? like enemies! and if people live there then let them solve their problems themselves (with terrorists, with gays, with everyone). if there is someone who doesn’t like it, let them choose another country of residence for themselves, we won’t be able to solve all the problems in the world, we won’t even solve our problems, why throw stones at someone else’s garden? we need to restore order in this country and strengthen the borders with minefields, and then we'll see where it is better!
  40. Kibl
    Kibl 13 February 2016 11: 46 New
    +1
    Why are the Germans quacking about democracy and freedom in Russia, Germany has been under the occupation of the United States since 1945. Russia has left the mattress remained, since you can talk about freedom, in Germany freedom works as long as the United States allows it. And these "refugees "just a second wave of occupation, planned by the states! Everything is clever and thought out, destabilization in the richest country in the EU is a paradise for the US and the American economy!
  41. sl22277
    sl22277 13 February 2016 11: 46 New
    0
    Lavrov said everything correctly ... Only Germany looks like shit in the hole. Steinmeier doesn't want to see migrant crimes? The criminals are already in Germany. And in this "Legal State" lawlessness is happening, which is hushed up by officials and the police. Then there would be no internal disagreements in the country, no conflicts with conscience (if it still remained), would not violate the rights of the child victim, would not cause anger relatives and friends of the girl's family, and in the end Russia would not have climbed to "interfere."
  42. Puler
    Puler 13 February 2016 11: 47 New
    0
    esho shtanmaeer is not mature enough to point to Lavrov ...
    1. Zeppelin ml.
      Zeppelin ml. 13 February 2016 16: 47 New
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      Quote: Puler
      not mature enough

      laughing
  43. sabakina
    sabakina 13 February 2016 11: 49 New
    +1
    By the way, I forgot to add.
    Has anyone tried to put "Vanka-Vstanka" in its place?
  44. askort154
    askort154 13 February 2016 11: 52 New
    0
    The deck leaves from under the feet of Merkel and Steinmeier. From impotence, both begin to behave inappropriately,
    making statements one after another that are not permissible in diplomacy. Stupidly fulfilling the task
    "Russia aggressor", they have become one step with the Pole -'re coming out-pribaltami.Germaniya shallow.
    1. Zeppelin ml.
      Zeppelin ml. 13 February 2016 11: 56 New
      -3
      Quote: askort154
      making statements one after another that are not permissible in diplomacy.

      which for example? I did not find violations of diplomatic ethics in the words of Shtr.
      Quote: askort154
      "Russia is the aggressor"

      this, sorry, is somewhat of a different opera and has nothing to do with the "girl Liza". Why throw everything in a heap?
      1. Paranoid50
        Paranoid50 13 February 2016 14: 00 New
        +4
        Quote: Zeppelin ml.
        Why put everything in a heap?

        Good question! Dear Zeppelin Jr., if you live in Germany, then this question should be asked, first of all, to Baba Gele, Steinmeier and his associates. Their logic, as it were, already smacks of Ukrop paranoia, according to which Putin and Russia are everywhere. And they reason something like this: Assad, with the support of Putin, arranges genocide of the peaceful bearded population who is forced to flee to Europe and start a "new life" there, and the chaos and lawlessness they are organizing in their new place of residence is the result of the stress endured during the inhuman bombing of Russian VKS. So it turns out that the girl Liza is a victim of "Putin's aggressive policy." As in the old joke: "Do you have any matches? No? Well, that means you shouldn't ..." But what about Putin? And Putin is slowly becoming the God of Europe, by analogy with the same dill. PS Quote regarding the "refugees": "On that day, my mujahideen did not take their weapons with them, our detachment was disguised as a peaceful caravan with heroin ..." (V. Pelevin) hi
        1. Zeppelin ml.
          Zeppelin ml. 13 February 2016 14: 04 New
          -3
          Quote: Paranoid50
          already gives dill paranoia

          Quote: Paranoid50
          Paranoid50

          Well, of course, you know better ..
          1. Paranoid50
            Paranoid50 13 February 2016 15: 09 New
            +2
            It is impossible not to see, for everything is on the surface.
            1. Zeppelin ml.
              Zeppelin ml. 13 February 2016 15: 54 New
              -1
              Quote: Paranoid50
              It is impossible not to see, for everything is on the surface.

              what exactly - "on the surface"? Is Steinmeier paranoid? Are there signs?
        2. Zeppelin ml.
          Zeppelin ml. 13 February 2016 16: 50 New
          -1
          Quote: Paranoid50
          And Putin is slowly becoming the God of Europe

          facespalm ... I won’t even argue ... There is nothing.
          Quote: Paranoid50
          by analogy with the same dill.

          these have something to do with it?
  45. Stinger
    Stinger 13 February 2016 11: 53 New
    +2
    They do not like to be cancer.
  46. Alexander S.
    Alexander S. 13 February 2016 11: 54 New
    +2
    and I remember that the Germans killed my great-grandfather. And I will put this info to my children and grandchildren.
    1. Zeppelin ml.
      Zeppelin ml. 13 February 2016 12: 37 New
      -1
      Quote: Alexander S.
      and I remember that the Germans killed my great-grandfather. And I will put this info to my children and grandchildren.

      this, of course, is true, only then you don’t have to kick the Germans that they are putting "their" information into their heads своих children and grandchildren. They are still harder than us - we have a moral winners , and they still disentangle for those 44% of the vote in the Bundestag elections in March 1933. But, it seems, the guilt is gradually getting rid of the complex.
      1. Chisayna
        Chisayna 13 February 2016 13: 41 New
        0
        Let them get rid of the guilt complex in front of the ev-ys. And my grandfather of their Germans pounded up decently. His awards speak for him.
        1. Zeppelin ml.
          Zeppelin ml. 13 February 2016 14: 15 New
          -2
          Quote: Chisain
          Let them get rid of the guilt complex before ev.

          Well, it’s easier here - grandmas decide everything, the federal law on compensation, it seems, has not been repealed. In my opinion, in 2013, the program was adopted before 2017 to pay $ 1 billion in equal shares. So - buy off)
          Quote: Chisain
          And my grandfather punched them Germans decently. His awards speak for him.

          well done grandfather. My started with the Japanese and ended with the Germans)
          1. Militia
            Militia 13 February 2016 23: 30 New
            -2
            Judging by the history textbook, they started with the Germans in the 41st, and finished in the 45th with the Japanese. What kind of special grandfather do you have? hi Turned the story back soldier.
            Sneaked into the thoughts of Motsk. Or maybe your grandfather is a participant in the Russian-Japanese war of 1904-1905? But, Russia lost that war. Http: //historykratko.com/russko-yaponskaya-voyna-1904-1905-kratko

            But anyway, thanks to him for finishing with the Germans yes
            1. Zeppelin ml.
              Zeppelin ml. 14 February 2016 08: 39 New
              -2
              Quote: Militia
              Judging by the history textbook, they started with the Germans in the 41st, and finished in the 45th with the Japanese. What is special about your grandfather Turned the story back.
              Sneaked into the thoughts of Motsk. Or maybe your grandfather is a participant in the Russian-Japanese war of 1904-1905?

              pretty dumb little thought. As, however, the whole comment. And look through the history textbook, pal, look through. And do not be dumb in the future.
              1. Militia
                Militia 15 February 2016 17: 07 New
                +1
                Quote: Zeppelin ml.
                pretty dumb little thought. As, however, the whole comment. And look through the history textbook, pal, look through. And do not be dumb in the future.

                In principle, another answer to the comment, in the style of (itself dumb), could not be expected. If you position yourself as a well-read, educated and learned husband, then do not consider it a labor, please indicate which history textbook you need to look through to find out about the war with Japan, after which your grandfather went to finish off the Germans. And if there is one, then out of respect for your grandfather, I will certainly look through it, buddy.
  47. thinker
    thinker 13 February 2016 12: 01 New
    +2
    Germany is a legal state.

    Yes, anyone would doubt it!
    The prosecutor's office of Berlin opened a case against the correspondent of Channel One Ivan the Good for the plot of rape of a 13-year-old girl from a Russian-speaking family.
    fool
    http://www.vesti.ru/doc.html?id=2718028&cid=7
  48. varov14
    varov14 13 February 2016 12: 10 New
    +1
    I especially liked the German comment on Putin's dictate. Who is affected by the dictatorship, admit it? Yeltsin in 93 even dared the supreme council, but Putin has not fulfilled a single order by the government. Russia did not know the best dictatorship yet. The dictatorship of irresponsibility and slackness. A Russian German was 13 years old, so she was brought up in such a way, about which snot is tolerance.
  49. zoknyay82
    zoknyay82 13 February 2016 12: 10 New
    +1
    Quote: Ami du peuple
    Quote: Baikonur
    Steinmeier - THE FIGHT!

    Maybe he should be raped himself? Then I would have understood at least something about "politicization" .. Or is a sexual crime against a high-ranking German official terrorism? I'm confused about the legal definition

    Speak out wear? I'm afraid he is only high :-)
  50. Belarus
    Belarus 13 February 2016 12: 12 New
    +3
    For some reason, I remember the good times when Kohl and Schroeder were at the helm of Germany. And those who are now in power in Germany, I think this is not the rulers, but a banal funeral team of a country like Germany and indeed the collectors of the rest of the European Union.

    I wrote and asked the same question: what kind of compromising evidence is it necessary for the German authorities and not only for those who are in power just stupidly like rats to the tune to lead their camps to destroy what good they had?

    And personally, I want to say to Steinmeier: this is Russia that will put you not only in its place, but also somewhat steeper.
    1. Urals
      Urals 13 February 2016 12: 19 New
      -1
      Quote: Belarus
      For some reason, I remember the good times when at the helm of Germany was Kohl, Schroeder.

      I also think so .. Serious men were, it was possible to talk with them! hi