Experts questioned the news of the collapsing "Phobos"

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Experts questioned the news of the collapsing "Phobos" Ted Molchan, a Canadian scientist, an expert in the field of spacecraft surveillance, reports that he recorded the separation and destruction of two fragments from the station. The expert makes conclusions about the beginning of the destruction process "Phobos-Grunt", which is currently in near-earth orbit.

Experts observe a steady decline in the station, according to data on the fourth of December, it continues. Regarding the statement, experts cannot determine with certainty from which part of the Phobos-Grunt apparatus the observed fragments have separated.

What is the probability of destruction of the station? With this question, the correspondent Vesti.Ru turned to Alexander Rodin, a senior researcher in the department of planetary physics from the Space Research Institute of the Russian Academy of Sciences.

“Of course, it is theoretically possible to suggest such a scenario. The device is in the on state, and how it works, we do not know. The control system of the station could easily give a command to separate the upper stage. Although this option is a big question. The control system cannot issue any command at the moment, but theoretically, I repeat, this is not excluded. This fact is easily verified, at the moment our space monitoring systems and the US are monitoring the station, ”the expert answered.

“The assumption that the station began to fall apart due to the effects of the atmosphere is even less likely. If it had entered the dense layers of the atmosphere, there would have been an increase in temperature and the destruction of any parts of the apparatus. The station, of course, is declining, since it was initially in a low orbit, but destruction due to interaction with the atmosphere is unlikely. It is difficult to predict the time of entering Phobos-Grunt into the dense layers of the atmosphere because of the constant change in density at those altitudes where the station is located. It is considered that the descent will occur within a month, ”concluded Alexander Rodin.

Yuri Karash, a corresponding member of the Russian Academy of Cosmonautics, in an interview with the journalist of the Vesti FM radio station, commented on the statement about the collapsing station as "extremely intricate." “Suppose, at the moment, the station is on the ground, gravity is acting on it, here it is possible to predict that something will fall off from the station sooner or later. But in space it is not. To begin the destruction, it is necessary to apply some force. What power? Where does she come from? This is either a collision of the device with a fragment of space debris, or it has decreased so much that it began to collapse due to the pressure of the atmosphere. The latter option is not possible earlier than in January. In this period, the device will presumably begin to enter the dense layers of the atmosphere, ”said Karash.

The launch of the Phobos-Grunt vehicle took place on the night of November 9 from the Baikonur Cosmodrome. After the unit had separated from the Zenith launch vehicle, there was a failure to turn on the engines leading it to a higher orbit, from which it should have headed for Mars. In the tasks assigned to the station, there was a landing on the satellite of Mars - Phobos, sampling of soil and their delivery for research on the ground. The estimated time spent in flight would be about two and a half years.

The Phobos-Grunt, which is in Earth orbit, has gradually decreased by almost fifty kilometers. According to the calculations of specialists of the Russian rocket and space industry, the apparatus will descend from orbit in January next year, from the sixth to the end of the month.
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  1. -2
    7 December 2011 08: 23
    Well, what can you say? The device was lost - definitely. Guys who are shy to say that everything is lost, most likely, they are simply afraid of therapy with "surgical intervention in the chest"! It's a shame, however! There was a theory that Phobos was blinded by a powerful impulse of the amerskoy radar at the moment of its passage through the observation zone thereof.
  2. vadimus
    0
    7 December 2011 08: 26
    I heard that too. There is no smoke without fire…
  3. Anatoly
    +3
    7 December 2011 08: 31
    Yes, what difference does it fall apart or not? Lost, definitely. Why now the public debate - what fell off of him? It’s a pity. We’ll take it into account and fix it. We’ll continue.
  4. 0
    7 December 2011 09: 23
    It would be nice to get it relatively intact, to take testimony, to prove that the amers' bitches did it. However, in this case, the story with the Kursk will repeat itself - they will be silent and find an acceptable compromise. And I have no doubts that they did this. They blew up 3,5 , XNUMX thousand of their own in the towers of the WTC to start a war in Iraq and Afghanistan, and to blind our station to once again shit on Russia in general for happiness.
    1. +2
      7 December 2011 09: 45
      Immerse in a snowstorm and bring back
      1. 0
        7 December 2011 13: 20
        SlavaS,
        "Buran" destroyed "on the vine"! And "Phobos" will not fit into it ...
    2. 0
      7 December 2011 13: 18
      almost demobilization,
      Rather, "it" was done by our s-uki! It is much cheaper and more efficient for Americans!
  5. 0
    7 December 2011 09: 26
    Citizens, you have not tasted! THIS SIGN !!! :
    The election period in Russia is under the sad glow of a "star" named "Phobos-Grunt" !!!! wassat (dr. Greek - “fear”) Nam Khan ....
    tongue PS There is such a thing, sarcasm.
  6. 0
    7 December 2011 09: 26
    Previously, it was necessary to "question", before launching and during the work on the station. And now there is no need to listen to the bileberda of various experts from Canada. This Ted Molchan title of "expert in the field of observation of spacecraft" probably earned it, carrying useless nonsense.
  7. porese
    -1
    7 December 2011 09: 38
    If until now none of the specialists has been removed / punished, then some external factor was present because of which they lost the station, right up to the seizure of control. As previously mentioned, it is possible that the US intelligence agencies tried when they flew over them, or maybe the Amer rat started up with us, but now the 12th Armed Forces Directorate will calculate and take measures, or already .... In any case, they already know what they really occurred.
  8. Alexandr_K
    -5
    7 December 2011 09: 49
    Quote: esaul
    There was a theory that Phobos was blinded by a powerful impulse of the amerskoy radar at the moment of its passage through the observation zone thereof.

    Yo-pt, I'm telling you mother! And here the Pindos are to blame! lol The conspiracy of the supporters of conspiracy just rolls over !!! lol


    Quote: vadimus
    I heard that too. There is no smoke without fire…

    PINGOS are to blame for ALL the troubles of Rashkastan !!! I hear it almost every day. lol



    Quote: almost demobilized
    And they didn’t doubt that they did this. They blew up 3,5 of them in the WTC towers to start a war in Iraq and Afghanistan, and to blind our station to once again spoil Russia in general for happiness.

    Zombie putinoids rule wink
    1. +1
      7 December 2011 09: 54
      Yes pah on you!
    2. +1
      7 December 2011 10: 30
      Pendosy or not pendosy question. But from all kinds of spacecraft launched by us, our and Belarusian currents either fall or not take off, and currency ones fly well.
      1. 0
        7 December 2011 10: 46
        This only confirms my point.
  9. -1
    7 December 2011 10: 21
    I don’t believe that the Americans shot down the phobos, I don’t believe that the Americans drowned Kursk, I don’t believe that recent state wars are being waged against us, but I believe in our race .. and .. the food is unmeasured, and it’s worse than any conspiracy
    1. Drcoks
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      7 December 2011 13: 01
      I agree.
      Just what for to shoot him ??? the same as in the war of the Research Institute of Agriculture bombing or music school.
  10. +1
    7 December 2011 10: 34
    Forced to partly agree with Alexandr_K: external enemies have always been and will be, and always have been and will be strong (albeit different). They are constantly present and act as an objective moment of the environment. To refer to them as the decisive factor of their breaks means to sign their own, so to speak, inability. And this is at all levels of consideration of the organization of the system.
  11. 916-th
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    7 December 2011 13: 41
    With the intrigues of the Americans, there is an obvious overkill here. There is such a principle of "Occam's razor". The wise abbot recommended not to procreate without the need for explanations from the ceiling, but first of all to consider the most natural and probable ones. If they are not confirmed, go to the next, etc. American intrigues, in this case, at the end of the list, and in the first place are punctures in their own space kitchen.
  12. zavesa01
    +1
    7 December 2011 13: 47
    Failures of technology always occur, it and the technology to break down and not only here remember the "Challenger". The main thing is not to step on a rake twice. In the end, a negative result is also a result.
    1. -2
      7 December 2011 16: 23
      Well, of course, you can hide your head even deeper in the sand like an ostrich and don’t pee so that the bitches are not offended. But isn’t the rake under the feet of the most experienced country in space matters?
      1. Drcoks
        -1
        7 December 2011 19: 36
        Heh, we are largely experienced, but what do we observe?
  13. 0
    7 December 2011 19: 59
    While it is still not completely lost for about 2 weeks, you can try to collect information from it, but it’s a pity we will lose it in the near future, so much work has gone, a whole generation of people has been working.