In Russia, a modernized complex was created that can simultaneously control ten UAVs

Concern "Vega" (part of the defense industry complex) presented at the robotics exhibition in the Moscow region a modernized UAV control system, which is capable of simultaneously controlling 10 drones and ground robotstransmits RIA News message of the press service of the company.

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The exhibition within the framework of the military-scientific conference “Robotization of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation” is held in the Patriot park

“Concern" Vega "presented at the exhibition a modernized hardware and software system for group control of UAVs and ground-based robotic complexes based on the KAMAZ-43116 vehicle. The complex has UAV control panels and robots, equipped with five automated workplaces for operators. With the help of a high-performance supercomputer included in the product, it is possible to control up to 10 UAVs and ground-based robotic systems at the same time, ”the report says.

It is noted that "the wheelbase of the complex has a high maneuverability and can function autonomously for up to seven days, the deployment time of the mobile control point is no more than 15 minutes."

Comments

[Denis Obukhov]

In terms of redundancy, this is the wrong move. This computer will fail and you will lose ten drones. It is necessary to do modularly expandable systems, a cluster system. Such things should be repeatedly reserved, and hot-swappable.

[Temples]

Perhaps a "high performance supercomputer" is a journalistic vision of the process.
I think the military will not accept a complex that is vulnerable.

[Blondy]

Quote: Temples

Perhaps a "high performance supercomputer" is a journalistic vision of the process.

Yes, this is not a vision, but a glitch after the weed, what a fucking supercomputer on board the KamAZ - he probably saw this "non-commercial computer" of our assembly.
In general, there is a sense in a "multi-machine" computer. If one common task for a dozen drones, then the computer is much easier to cope with it than a dozen operators coordinate their actions, although this article is not at all about this.
But the author could have asked, instead of calling some server a supercomputer. The main conclusion is that the Vega concern has flown great with its PR specialist.

[g1v2]

This is just one of the systems. By the way, now our robotics has taken a sharp step forward and there is already a serious saturation with all systems and a reflection on their application. By the way, the Ministry of Emergencies and the Ministry of Internal Affairs, too, began to quickly purchase various Russian drones. Yes, and in civilian life too. Get to Japan last year for the medical university robots delivered. Damn, robots - we sell to Japan. Tch can be stated. that we have witnessed the emergence of an extremely technological and demanded industry in the Russian Federation.

[Baikonur]

Quote: Denis Obukhov

In terms of redundancy, this is the wrong move. This computer will fail and you will lose ten drones. It is necessary to do modularly expandable systems, a cluster system. Such things should be repeatedly reserved, and hot-swappable.

I think this is taken into account! Maybe there will be two or three Kamaz (3 squads in the platoon). anyway - the right topic! Grozny, a reconnaissance unit can be created, as well as a combat unit + Together with yesterday’s article (as one of the reservation channels through satellites):

A new antenna for connecting high-speed transport to the satellite has been created in the UIC

United Instrumentation Corporation has developed a compact satellite communications antenna module for vehicles and UAVs, which ensures reliable operation at high speeds and extreme conditions.
"Unlike traditional satellite dishes, the module has a 'flat' streamlined shape and can be installed on various moving objects - ships, trains, automobiles and tracked vehicles, airplanes and drones,"
“The module supports a stable satellite communication channel regardless of the position in space and at speeds of up to several hundred kilometers per hour. With the loss of one signal, the antenna immediately picks up another thanks to technological know-how, which provides a constant overview in 360 °. Such features allow using the device, for example, on airplanes of various types, ”the press service informs.
The antenna at the same time “sees” the entire spectrum of signals around itself, regardless of the direction of movement, speed, other operating conditions. This is a truly breakthrough product in the market of satellite communications systems. "

[Pajamas]

Quote: Denis Obukhov

In terms of redundancy, this is the wrong move. This computer will fail and you will lose ten drones. It is necessary to do modularly expandable systems, a cluster system. Such things should be repeatedly reserved, and hot-swappable.

I would venture, with a high degree of probability, to assume that there is a server, it is modular by definition, this is a version of a mobile center, conceptually it is quite suitable for your requirement, 5 operators and up to 10 monitored objects, how many channels per object is not said, where did you get it from that there is no reservation, especially since we do not know the staff and standards of combat support. In general, such things do not mold from the bald, there is a technical specification from the customer with the presented performance characteristics, if the development is proactive, then there will still be revision for a specific customer - the Ministry of Internal Affairs, the Ministry of Emergencies, the Ministry of Defense. PS I wonder how you reasoned - "I thought for 5 minutes and came to the conclusion"? The design bureau has been working for more than one year and the specialists did not think of it, probably their education is worse than yours.

[just exp]

and where it says that there is no redundancy management?
can make duplicate cars, in the event of destruction of one control point, everything is automatically transferred to the backup.

[dvina71]

Quote: Denis Obukhov

reservation point of view, this is the wrong move

YOU have a bad idea of ​​a military computer .. MCST releases a motherboard in which you can install several processors in parallel and replace them with a "hot" one .. What do you think .. who made such demands?

[Urals]

Well, try somewhere ..?

[NIKNN]

Not an expert and there is nothing to comment on. I'll wait when the specialists seem to give their word, by the way, thanks to them in advance ..

[dvina71]

Quote: NIKNN

I'll wait when the specialists seem to say their word

And they will sit down .. Article 276 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation

[engineer74]

Using a high-performance supercomputer, which is part of the product, it is possible to control up to 10 UAVs and ground-based robotic systems at the same time, ”the report says.

These will really be robots, and not 3 operators per "drone", like some ...
It is unspecified in the article, to control 10 of its UAVs or 10 which will be caught.

[Denis Obukhov]

It would be nice if the economy also improved as a defense industry!

[A-Sim]

“The wheelbase of the complex has high traffic and can operate autonomously for up to seven days, the deployment time of a mobile control center is no more than 15 minutes.”

The author of the text needs to read more classical literature. The construction of phrases is out of the ordinary, unfortunately.

[Michael67]

Come on. Badly built, I do not argue. Most importantly, the news brought.

[Michael67]

Fiction, by golly. It’s nice to read such news. Well done science!
I read on VO about the operation of our robots in the SAR. It is something...

[pavelty]

Yes, well done on Vega, with those generally small salaries that they receive there (I know from my friend) they manage to invent and implement something ... they are again engaged in space

[triglav]

The military-industrial complex works well. The army should be equipped only with modern types. The fear of one and the envy of others.

[Professor]

The complex has UAV and robot control panels, is equipped with five automated workstations for operators. Using a high-performance supercomputer, which is part of the product, it is possible to control up to 10 UAVs and ground-based robotic systems at the same time, ”the report says.

Straight Stakhanovists, one operator monitors two drones. We will overtake and overtake the bourgeois. They have 2 drone operators.

[MMX]

Straight Stakhanovists, one operator monitors two drones. We will overtake and overtake the bourgeois. They have 2 drone operators.

It depends on what situations and what functionality the drones have when completing tasks. The article does not say that the operator monitors two drones at once.

All the more so

they are no longer engaged in piloting in the classical sense. The operator simply "plans the route", and the autopilot does everything by itself, including automatic takeoff and landing.

[Professor]

Quote: MMX

The article does not say that the operator monitors two drones at once.

Well yes. You can play combinatorics. 5 operators - 10 drones, 2 drones for each operator or one 3 drones, the second 1 and the rest 2. Well and so on.

Quote: MMX

It depends on what situations and what functionality the drones have when completing tasks

For example? A scenario where one operator is able to keep track of two drones?

Quote: MMX

they are no longer engaged in piloting in the classical sense. The operator simply "plans the route", and the autopilot does everything by itself, including automatic takeoff and landing.

This is also true, but this is for the bourgeoisie and they have two lads per drone. Here's how one operator will be watching two "pictures" from two drones at the same time, I do not understand. IMHO the journalists were wise.

[MMX]

Well yes. You can play combinatorics. 5 operators - 10 drones, 2 drones for each operator or one 3 drones, the second 1 and the rest 2. Well and so on.

You can play, or you can just read the article more attentively and how it says about the work of the complex, which says that "BEFORE 10 UAVs and ground-based robotic systems simultaneously "

For example? A scenario where one operator is able to keep track of two drones?

For example, when one drone is driven and performs autonomous actions according to the task.

This is also true, but this is for the bourgeoisie and they have two lads per drone. Here's how one operator will be watching two "pictures" from two drones at the same time, I do not understand.

For obvious reasons, the system’s capabilities are unknown to you and I, therefore, categorically difficult to say anything.

IMHO sophisticated journalists.

I agree. Perhaps in the article the interpretation of the journalist and he betrayed "as understood."

[Professor]

Quote: MMX

You can play, or you can just read the article more carefully and how it says about the operation of the complex, which says that "UP TO 10 UAVs and ground-based robotic systems at the same time"

I read. 5 operators-10 complexes.
The complex has UAV and robot control panels, is equipped five workstations for operators. Using the high-performance supercomputer that is part of the product, it is possible to control up to 10 UAVs and ground-based robotic systems at the same time, ”the report said.

Quote: MMX

For example, when one drone is driven and performs autonomous actions according to the task.

What is it like? Your own director? Does he look at the "picture" himself?

Quote: MMX

For obvious reasons, the system’s capabilities are unknown to you and I, therefore, categorically difficult to say anything.

I’m not about the capabilities of the system, but about the capabilities of man.

Quote: g1v2

If my factory operator controls at the same time 2-3 lines, is that what he is - violates the laws of physics?

Generally, a swarm of drones can set a route or behavior algorithm, but one person can look at the "picture", or even better. 2. And not vice versa.

Quote: Pajama

Professor Do you think your colleagues in Russia are dumber than you?

No, but I think that not all journalists are equally smart.

[sharp-lad]

Or maybe the "backward" Russians again wrote a program in Assembler? Here is one operator and manages to undercut too much independence of autonomous equipment.

[bad]

Straight Stakhanovists, one operator monitors two drones. We will overtake and overtake the bourgeois. They have 2 drone operators.

.. we have everything not like that of the "bourgeois" .. let them have at least a dozen operas watching one drone .. their business and their problems, they are not a decree or authority for us .. we have one smart fighter who can handle it if necessary ..and still have time to play tanks in between times ..

[Professor]

Quote: bad

.. we are not like the "bourgeois" .. let them have at least a dozen operas watching one drone .. their business and their problems, they are not a decree and not an authority for us ..

Well it goes without saying. Their laws of physics are completely different. By the way, they are no longer engaged in piloting in the classical sense. The operator simply "plans the route", and the autopilot does everything by itself, including automatic takeoff and landing.

Quote: bad

we have one sensible fighter to cope if necessary .. and still have time to play tanks in between cases ..

I am for two hands. I propose to take increased socialist obligations and give each operator control of three, and at the end of the quarter, four drones.

[Pajamas]

Quote: professor

I am for two hands. I propose to take increased socialist obligations and give each operator control three, and at the end of the quarter, four drones

Professor, with all due respect, but we don’t know about combat support, it’s possible that 1 operator can give target designation to 3-4 ground drones online if they are in the same area, it’s quite possible why you immediately ran into UAVs, not all drones must be shock. Let’s keep an eye on 2-3 cartographic drones or drones for the Ministry of Emergencies that monitor the ecological, ice (on the rivers) situation is quite possible. To listen to you, each aircraft should have its own personal air traffic controller. Professor Do you think your colleagues in Russia are dumber than you?

[g1v2]

Well, what’s the problem to ask drones about the behavior algorithm in typical situations and the route before departure? Well, the operator controls, directing to a given area and monitoring the general situation. Personally, I do not see a problem with the presence of powerful hardware and the necessary software. What do you have to do with the laws of physics and increased social obligations, I definitely do not understand. If my factory operator controls at the same time 2-3 lines, is that what he is - violates the laws of physics?

[Pajamas]

Here's the topic, pictures from the exhibition

[Stoler]

And if you put the operators in two tiers ??? And better in three !!! This will be POWER! Ё !!!