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How to survive with low oil prices

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There is probably no such person in our country, who every morning, waking up, would not listen to the reports from the Moscow Interbank Currency Exchange (MICEX) about the ruble exchange rate. They resemble reports from the front, because the national monetary unit will not stop its retreat, making millions of Russians poorer and poorer. In this case, the government admonishes us that, they say, do not worry, everything is under control. But is it? Over the past few months, the national currency has become cheaper by almost one hundred percent, which means that citizens ’deposits and property belonged to them have doubled in value. And there is no end in sight. Naturally, questions arise. What does our government do in this situation? How does it fight inflation?


“The main thing is not being done - new jobs are not being created, a progressive tax scale is not being introduced”
Unfortunately, traces of this struggle, besides raising the basic interest rate, are very difficult to detect. I would like to be mistaken, but the main thing is not being done - new jobs are not created, a progressive scale of taxes is not introduced.

It’s easier, of course, to impose new taxes on the population, raise the retirement age, impose taxes on the poor ... Take, for example, history with the same truckers. Or no less controversial situation with requisitions for overhaul of housing.

Recently, the chairman of the government ordered him to submit proposals on the preparation of an “Anti-crisis program”.

But there were years in the history of modern Russia, when oil was cheaper than today. Recall how literally in half a year the government of Yevgeny Primakov and Yury Maslyukov pushed the country away from the abyss after the default of 1998.

Not everything depends on the price of oil. Much more - on how the financial and economic bloc of the government works. There are countries where oil is not produced at all, but the people there do not live in misery.

Our so-called effective managers of 25 have been saying for years that they are doing everything right, as they confidently keep up with the West, which will help us. But everything, it turns out, was kept on the high price of oil. And when she collapsed, all the wonderful managers were blown away like balloons.

By the way, President Vladimir Putin in Stavropol remembered the experience of the USSR, that there was a lot of good in Soviet times, something that should not be abandoned, for example, the education system and much more. Even condemnation by “effective” managers is planned in the economies of the United States, Japan, and other countries.

What is the way out of the situation?

To listen to serious scientists, including the recommendations of Sergei Glazyev. He has already developed an alternative economic program.

The country should really earn the import substitution program.

Declare a state monopoly on the sale of alcohol that the Accounts Chamber of the Russian Federation proposed ten years ago.

Set a progressive income tax scale.

To introduce confiscation of property for corrupt officials, which was also mentioned by Vladimir Putin.

In the meantime, it seems that we live by the principle: where the curve will take out.
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  1. 4ekist
    4ekist 3 February 2016 21: 33
    20
    And transplant embezzlers.
    1. RUSS
      RUSS 3 February 2016 21: 43
      +5
      Quote: 4ekist
      And transplant embezzlers.

      Not enough judges and investigators.
      1. avia1991
        avia1991 3 February 2016 21: 54
        33
        Quote: RUSS
        Not enough judges and investigators.

        laughing Which themselves must be planted through one!
        1. Wolverine
          Wolverine 3 February 2016 23: 40
          +6
          Well, of course, they are one team!
      2. SerAll
        SerAll 3 February 2016 22: 03
        +7
        No, it is necessary, as under Stalin, to find Beria and make it responsible for the State Defense Order, for all the development and goals to be set not feasible ...
        1. kuz363
          kuz363 3 February 2016 22: 16
          +6
          So this kind of found - Ph.D. Dimon Rogozin! True, he is far from Beria. Because Putin is not Stalin
        2. oldseaman1957
          oldseaman1957 4 February 2016 04: 33
          +7
          Quote: SerAll
          No, it’s necessary, as under Stalin, to find Beria and make him responsible for the State Defense Order

          - Since in the Cabinet of Ministers we are completely billionaires who are fighting mainly only for their own pockets, we also need to urgently change these "girls"! (According to the saying: If profits in a brothel have fallen, then it is not the furniture that is changed, but the girls.)
      3. KRIG55
        KRIG55 3 February 2016 22: 30
        +6
        Since we are investigating cases and judging embezzlers, it will take us 150-200 years and millions of investigators. Judges, lawyers. And we cannot count bracelets for house arrest.
    2. Inok10
      Inok10 3 February 2016 21: 43
      16
      Quote: 4ekist
      And transplant embezzlers.

      ... well, could it be less commonplace ?! ... quote from an article:
      There is probably no such person in our country who, waking up every morning, would not listen to reports from the Moscow Interbank Currency Exchange (MICEX) about the ruble exchange rate.
      ... do not believe Kamrada ... the weather forecast is more interesting ... than the MICEX .. I don’t have currency and why do I need it? ... the weather, yes, but the course ?! ... no currency, no worries .. laughing
      1. Ami du peuple
        Ami du peuple 3 February 2016 21: 57
        17
        Quote: Inok10
        ... do not believe Kamrada ... the weather forecast is more interesting ... than the MICEX ..

        Absolutely agree. By the way, I would like to ask Mr. Stepashin SV, and you yourself, what have you done useful as Prime Minister? Well, or at least the Minister of Internal Affairs or the director of the FSB? I remember very well how the last professionals of the Soviet school, and the young employees, also treated you in the internal affairs bodies ... Oh, I won’t continue - otherwise I will express too much impartial address to the Chief Accountant and the Auditor.
        By the way, and as Chairman of the Accounts Chamber, recall your merits, Sergey Vadimovich? A lot of corrupt officials and thieves revealed over 15 years?
        I am absolutely not a supporter of the current Government, especially its financial and economic bloc, but ... I do not want Dimona to change the Firefighter. Sewed on soap, so to speak. excuse me hi
        1. RUSS
          RUSS 3 February 2016 22: 02
          10
          Quote: Ami du peuple
          Mr. Stepashin S.V., and you yourself have done something useful as Prime Minister?

          He was the prime minister for only 3 months, from May 12 to August 9, 1999, so what is his demand?
        2. Ami du peuple
          Ami du peuple 3 February 2016 22: 57
          +7
          Well, after that, imperishable from the unforgettable Boris, sweaty feet in his mouth, Nikolaevich. Just Stepashina is directly concerned.
          1. sabakina
            sabakina 3 February 2016 23: 14
            +3
            Quote: Ami du peuple
            Well, after that, imperishable from the unforgettable Boris, sweaty feet in his mouth, Nikolaevich. Just Stepashina is directly concerned.

            Pay attention to Primakov, as he looked at EBN ....
            P.S. At the end of the EBN said: "There are no vrubeshevkas?" belay
            1. Ami du peuple
              Ami du peuple 3 February 2016 23: 48
              +6
              Quote: sabakina
              P.S. At the end of the EBN said: "There are no vrubeshevkas?"

              "There are no more errors like this" smile An old alcoholic always had problems with diction.
              Quote: sabakina
              Pay attention to Primakov, as he looked at EBN ....

              Actually, Primakov knew to whom he would hand over his powers soon and he didn’t really like it. The newly formed government Stepashin worked, in almost unchanged composition, until the end of Kasyanov’s powers. Let us recall the legendary names of the Stepashin commissars: Klebanov, Adam, Rushailo, Fix. .. No matter what a person is, it’s a criminal case, or even not one.
          2. fif21
            fif21 4 February 2016 05: 38
            +2
            Quote: Ami du peuple
            imperishable from unforgettable Boris
            Krylov's fable "Quartet" And you friends do not sit down, all are not suitable for musicians. yes
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        3. R-22
          R-22 4 February 2016 06: 54
          +2
          The Accounts Chamber is working well, but what good is this, like Vasiliev’s example and a stool, they were investigated and cheated, but they didn’t seriously punish them. Therefore, work - do not work well, you are the chief accountant, and with such a device you are an statistician. The only thing is that ordinary entrepreneurs working with a budget tear and tear up the chamber will be of high quality.
      2. Asadullah
        Asadullah 3 February 2016 22: 13
        +6
        I don’t have currency and why do I need it? ... the weather, yes, but the course ?! ... no currency, no worries.


        Who needs it? First of all, to currency speculators, secondly, to importers, thirdly to manufacturers from imported components, and lastly, to citizens who want to give greens for Thai massage under the palm trees. As you can see, there are no Russian pensioners who need this list. Are any of them interested in import substitution or a puzzle of "job creation?"

        The second point, the weakening of the ruble in direct proportion to oil, is the weapon of retaliation of the Russian leadership for the West’s commercial military operations. It is this measure that infuriates Americans. The fact is that the price of oil has ceased to be controlled by exchanges, a huge amount of US dollars has been freed up, which participated in the oil circulation, at a comfortable price of one hundred greens. Every day, this mass more and more acquires the properties of explosives, and if the price of raw materials does not go up, it will explode. While they are cooling this mass at the discount rate of the Fed, but this is kerosene cooling. One spark .... Already today the pitfalls of the economy of fraud and divorce are beginning to appear. Diamonds look, they will drop hundreds of times in price, and gold cannot be bought in bullion, and silver is not very well sold. Exchanges are oversaturated with assets. Something will happen by the fall ...
        1. Ami du peuple
          Ami du peuple 3 February 2016 22: 22
          0
          Quote: Asadullah
          the weakening of the ruble in direct proportion to oil, this is the weapon of retaliation of the Russian leadership for trade military operations of the West.

          By the way. Crying about expensive gasoline is dedicated. And how much we received in 2000 in terms of the dollar equivalent, remember
          1. Muvka
            Muvka 3 February 2016 23: 00
            +7
            Is it possible to add salary figures to this plate?) Just then it was 5 tr, now 15 tr And then there was no tax for gas.
          2. Muvka
            Muvka 3 February 2016 23: 04
            +6
            On the first site I found ...
            the average salary in rubles in 2000 is 2223 rubles.
            the average salary in rubles in 2015 is 33925 rubles.
            1. Ami du peuple
              Ami du peuple 4 February 2016 00: 05
              +1
              Quote: Muvka
              Is it possible to add salary figures to this plate?) Just then it was 5 tr, now 15 tr And then there was no tax for gas.

              Quote: Muvka
              On the first site I found ...

              Well, you answered your question. Although I have big doubts about the current average salary. Yes, and the past too - the average was larger. The difference in ruble income between 2000 and 2016, well, four to five times. But not at thirteen.
              1. alicante11
                alicante11 4 February 2016 12: 19
                0
                Well, you answered your question. Although I have big doubts about the current average salary. Yes, and the past too - the average was larger. The difference in ruble income between 2000 and 2016, well, four to five times. But not at thirteen.


                I well remember the salaries of the beginning of the 2000's. In 2000, I came to a technical school as a teacher at 700 rubles a month. My fellow students and correspondence students who came to the session on the railway received 3-6tys. rubles depending on the place of work and the salary was considered good. Based on your considerations, is now a good salary 15-30tys? Now assistants and drivers in Russian Railways receive from 40 (maneuvers) to 80 thousand. The minimum salary for a teacher without the category 21tys. rubles. So 4-5 times well, no matter how it is not danced. At least 10 times the gap.
            2. Fat
              Fat 4 February 2016 00: 28
              0
              Quote: Muvka
              On the first site I found ...
              the average salary in rubles in 2000 is 2223 rubles.
              the average salary in rubles in 2015 is 33925 rubles.

              There are other "control figures" for the minimum wage, for example http://www.mojazarplata.ru/main/minimumwages/mrot-2000-2010
              2000 - minimum wage - 132r
              2015 - minimum wage - 5965r
              from 1.01.2016 - minimum wage 6204r ... hi
              1. asiat_61
                asiat_61 4 February 2016 05: 54
                +3
                laughing Try to live on the minimum wage, and I'll see.
                1. Dewa1s
                  Dewa1s 4 February 2016 09: 07
                  +1
                  The minimum wage is the minimum wage, at this level it is simply able to survive and not starve to death
                  1. Cat man null
                    Cat man null 4 February 2016 09: 58
                    +1
                    Quote: Dewa1s
                    from 1.01.2016 - minimum wage 6204r

                    I have a bigger rent. For odnushka in 38 total area, yeah ..
                    1. avia1991
                      avia1991 4 February 2016 10: 07
                      0
                      Quote: Cat Man Null
                      I have a bigger rent.

                      Judging by the flag, it should be more .. laughing
                      Greetings, Roman! hi What are you in the "junior" night? Something you didn't share with your opponents?
                      1. Cat man null
                        Cat man null 4 February 2016 12: 41
                        0
                        Quote: avia1991
                        Judging by the flag, it should be bigger

                        Zadolbali flag already. Here, I’ve already laid out the picture, who needs it - will understand:

                        The site with the definition of the user's IP is mowing, hence the "flags" .. I, however, exactly yes
                      2. avia1991
                        avia1991 4 February 2016 18: 31
                        0
                        Quote: Cat Man Null
                        Zadolbali flag already.

                        Come on, Roman! Pinned in your own way, and you - grumble .. lol
                        I’ve been taken off the USSR flag, but I don’t find any ends! True, this, they say, was an all-out action - like, it looked like calls for the revival of the USSR wassat
                  2. alicante11
                    alicante11 4 February 2016 12: 25
                    0
                    I have a bigger rent. For odnushka in 38 total area, yeah ..


                    This is where you live like that? My father in a village with a boiler room on fuel oil pays 6000 in winter for a "odnushka" 35m. And in the summer without heating there is generally a penny. Grandmother pays a maximum of 5000 rubles for a two-room Khrushchev in winter.
                    By the way, the minimum wage is not included in the rent. And for the poor there are privileges for rent.
                    1. Cat man null
                      Cat man null 4 February 2016 12: 34
                      0
                      Quote: alicante11
                      for the poor there are benefits for rent

                      You torture them only. And the maximum benefit there is 2 pieces per month, EMNIP.

                      Quote: alicante11
                      This is where you live this way?

                      Korolev MO. It is necessary to register in the profile. 5400 apartment bill for December. Another 700 somewhere around the world. That's just the minimum wage.

                      This is winter, essno. Less in summer.
                    2. alicante11
                      alicante11 4 February 2016 14: 00
                      0
                      You torture them only. And the maximum benefit there is 2 pieces per month, EMNIP.


                      I don’t know, I haven’t tried it, but all the pensioners I know receive and did not talk about the difficulties with registration.
              2. avia1991
                avia1991 4 February 2016 10: 12
                +1
                Quote: Dewa1s
                this is the minimum wage, at this level it is simply able to survive and not starve to death
                Not really. How do you expect to live on 6204, at least without getting into communal debt?
                The minimum wage is the base rate of payment, on the basis of which, using coefficients corresponding to a huge pile of different conditions and positions, the real salary is calculated.
                We can say that this number "Pi" for the economy is some abstract "constant" value lol
    3. 2news
      2news 3 February 2016 23: 55
      +1
      Quote: Asadullah
      a huge amount of US dollars was released, which participated in oil circulation, at a comfortable price of one hundred greens. Every day, this mass more and more acquires the properties of explosives, and if the price of raw materials does not go up, it will explode. While they are cooling this mass at the discount rate of the Fed, but this is kerosene cooling. One spark ....

      What passions. Nightmare horror. And about 100 greens, did you come up with it yourself?
    4. R-22
      R-22 4 February 2016 06: 59
      0
      I would not want a hot war on this subject.
  2. PHANTOM-AS
    PHANTOM-AS 3 February 2016 22: 50
    +7
    Quote: Inok10
    no currency, no worries .. laughing

    And those who have a currency, all the more there is no unrest, the state-central banks work for them.
    Hence, for you personally, we can conclude that everything is calm in "Baghdad" and no one is finally worried.
    Well, with the exception of low-income elements, such as pensioners, disabled people, residents of mono-cities, remote provinces (zamkadya), rural residents, nurses and nurses with salaries from 8 to 12 tyrs and other "rowers" on the same "gallery", run by "great" people.
    the main thing is that you and your kind are very optimistic wink
    1. Asadullah
      Asadullah 3 February 2016 23: 09
      +1
      Well, with the exception of low-income elements, such as pensioners, disabled people, residents of mono-cities, remote provinces (zamkadya), rural residents, nurses and nurses with salaries from 8 to 12 tyrs, well, other "rowers" on the same "gallery" run by "great" people.
      the main thing is that you and your kind are very optimistic


      Are these "rowers" on the gallery? But this is not even the point, show me an example of a state where such "skippers" live richly and happily.
      1. PHANTOM-AS
        PHANTOM-AS 3 February 2016 23: 35
        +5
        Quote: Asadullah
        show me an example of a state where such "negrebers" live wealthy and happy.

        I wanted to write my homeland of the USSR, but in order not to cause unnecessary controversy, I report, mamsh, switzerland, belgium, ferege, canada and there are little things yes , I’ll say right away that I was there, well, all the garbage.
        PS. I won’t go anywhere here My homeland, it is better to get enti dumped.
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      3. avia1991
        avia1991 4 February 2016 01: 15
        +5
        Quote: Asadullah
        show me an example of a state where such "negrebers" live wealthy and happy.

        And what do you suggest? Throw the caps up and shout "Hurray!" with joy that we are not alone?
        Maybe it’s better to start thinking like that Decembrist wife from the joke: ".. and my husband wanted not to be poor .."?
    2. Koshak
      Koshak 3 February 2016 23: 21
      0
      Quote: PHANTOM-AS
      Well, with the exception of low-income elements, such as retirees ...

      Well, I'm a senior citizen. Why should I worry. Pension in rubles, I buy bread for rubles ... Yes, I generally like the hell with this exchange rate. And judging by the comments, the author clearly crap, starting the article with the words: "There is probably no such person in our country who, waking up every morning, would not listen attentively to the reports from the Moscow Interbank Currency Exchange (MICEX) about the ruble exchange rate."
      1. fif21
        fif21 4 February 2016 06: 39
        +2
        Quote: Koshak
        "There is probably no such person in our country who, waking up every morning, would not listen attentively to the reports from the Moscow Interbank Currency Exchange (MICEX) about the ruble exchange rate."
        And who allowed this state of affairs? Who convinced the whole country that pieces of paper with US presidents are money, and that the national currency, the ruble, received the nickname-wooden? If we do not respect ourselves (our money), then who will respect us? In the 90s they passed everything! And all for what? For the sake of becoming a raw materials appendage of the West! We voluntarily accepted the Western model of the economy created by the USA, while we did not realize that we could not influence it. Management comes from the USA request Can we eliminate economic dependence on the West (investments, loans), can we develop our economy only at the expense of our own funds, and ultimately, can we become an independent state?
        1. avia1991
          avia1991 4 February 2016 10: 16
          0
          Quote: fif21
          Who convinced the whole country that pieces of paper with US presidents is money

          You will be surprised - but the Americans managed to convince the whole world of this! lol Including those countries that do not produce oil .. wink
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      3. almen1
        almen1 4 February 2016 06: 52
        +4
        Probably you will remember "I give a fuck" when you have to buy something from household appliances or medicine, and products other than bread.
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    1. Inok10
      Inok10 3 February 2016 22: 57
      +2
      Quote: PHANTOM-AS
      Well, with the exception of low-income elements, such as pensioners, disabled people, residents of mono-cities, remote provinces (zamkadya), rural residents, nurses and nurses with salaries from 8 to 12 tyrs, well, other "rowers" on the same "gallery" run by "great" people.
      the main thing is that you and your kind are very optimistic

      ... ah, they get a salary in foreign currency ?! and the store is also all for the currency? ... it’s still imported, just living in the environment of the European Union, in the Kaliningrad region it’s not very noticeable ... no, it’s noticeable ... Polish rubbish disappeared from the shelves ... people are delighted ... and don’t need to that prices doubled ... frozen Polish pork cost as much as farm chilled now .. shoulder blade 238 rubles ... hi
      1. Ami du peuple
        Ami du peuple 3 February 2016 23: 06
        +1
        Quote: Inok10
        how much is the farm chilled now .. shoulder blade 238 rub ...

        You are direct squanders! We have a fresh pork shoulder 210 smile
        1. avia1991
          avia1991 4 February 2016 10: 20
          +1
          Quote: Ami du peuple
          We have a fresh pork shoulder 210

          Well, yes, yes .. but if you come at night, you won’t even wake up the hosts out of politeness, so it’s completely free! laughing Pampers don't count!
      2. PHANTOM-AS
        PHANTOM-AS 3 February 2016 23: 07
        +5
        Quote: Inok10
        how much is the farm chilled now .. shoulder blade 238 rub ...

        Minesweeper? laughing
        1. Inok10
          Inok10 3 February 2016 23: 15
          +2
          Quote: PHANTOM-AS
          Quote: Inok10
          how much is the farm chilled now .. shoulder blade 238 rub ...

          Minesweeper? laughing

          ... this one will be more expensive ... a multifunctional tool, in the hands of a Russian person ... laughing
          1. PHANTOM-AS
            PHANTOM-AS 3 February 2016 23: 48
            +9
            Quote: Inok10
            multifunctional tool in the hands of a Russian man ... laughing

            Nice to talk with the philosopher good
            Let's go from the other flank laughing
            But if now all the state property will be seized, moreover, the capitulation of property in rubles, and to the dogs, in order not to spend much money on purchases, the raccoon was raised almost 3 times.
            Those. bought someone's liquid, and even in the pros 2 times left. Field of miracles? How do you like it? lol
            1. vsoltan
              vsoltan 4 February 2016 00: 01
              +9
              phantom ace

              And that’s exactly what it will be, colleague ... at a low rate everything will be resold again, then the rupee will be increased and resold again ... that’s how it will be, I completely agree with you ... already a whole trillion will be earned in the treasury ... where from December 10,5 has been lying around .. unnecessary ... this is aerobatics ... that’s how it will be ...
              1. PHANTOM-AS
                PHANTOM-AS 4 February 2016 00: 16
                +7
                vsoltan
                Kamrad! drinks Thank you for your understanding, but this is not all.
                When the money comes to the treasury, if it all the same happens, the sawmill will work again clearly, and we had a hole from a donut or a dog in our ears, in December- it was a difficult year, the government, on the whole, managed, the central bank worked out well, well, it’s inflation big, so it’s a heap around, and indeed, one who does nothing, well, to the heap, a couple of boogies is not mistaken.
                Aerobatics good
                1. Ami du peuple
                  Ami du peuple 4 February 2016 00: 48
                  +1
                  Quote: PHANTOM-AS
                  and we had a hole from a donut or a doggie in our ears, in December- it was a difficult year, the government, on the whole, managed, the Central Bank worked out clearly, well, that’s a big inflation,

                  Do you have problems with the economy in Germany too? And here we believe that you only have a hitch with migrants .. Do not exact, I will be guided by a flag. Although you probably go through a proxy ..
            2. Inok10
              Inok10 4 February 2016 02: 26
              +3
              Quote: PHANTOM-AS
              Let's go from the other flank
              But if now all the state property will be seized, moreover, the capitulation of property in rubles, and to the dogs, in order not to spend much money on purchases, the raccoon was raised almost 3 times.
              Those. bought someone's liquid, and even in the pros 2 times left. Field of miracles? How do you like it?

              ... I'm not tolerant, it’s better not to go from the flank ... laughing ... a beautiful theory ... but it’s crooked and not slender ... if only, if only ... yes mushrooms were growing in her mouth ... she’s life, such a thing is simple, without extra squiggles ... from a lot of squiggles there is a blurred view of the net on events simple and not tricky ... OIL DECREASED THREE TIMES, THE RUBLE DECREASED THREE TIMES ... the rest is a nest egg .. hi ... how many barrels they sold for 100 presidents forever dead, so the same number of barrels we sell for 30 ... the number of rubles from this has not changed ... but, about the mattresses who kicked their grandmas out of real oil, I wrote perfectly Kamrad Asadullah ... higher in the comment ... wrappers now circling the sea ... laughing
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      3. Nehist
        Nehist 4 February 2016 02: 04
        +6
        Wow!!! we would have such prices in the region, and then a shovel of 700 grouse costs! Here shes above about gasoline they wrote so in the region where this oil is extracted Benin costs 39.64
  4. Infernal man
    Infernal man 4 February 2016 02: 46
    +5
    Sorry, I won’t believe it)
    The course now is not only interested in those who do not need anything, and these are either very wealthy people or loafers who will do it anyway. But if you, your family, relatives continue to live, then in any case you have to (further with obscenities) consume. We need new clothes for growing children, we need new tires for a car (not a bald one), the wife broke the phone accidentally - buy a new one, the computer is outdated, requires an upgrade, I want to eat, I need to put braces on the child, alas (and in Moscow now for that asking 80-120 thousand rubles) ... You can continue indefinitely. And ALL THIS is directly tied to the dollar. The higher the course, the higher the price. Only here, personally, something personally doesn’t grow in any way for me))) You want, you don’t want, but all the components, all the equipment, etc. - all driven from behind a hill.
    So, personally I, as it is written - I monitor the course every morning and every evening) Forced.
    All good.
    1. alicante11
      alicante11 4 February 2016 13: 08
      0
      But if you, your family, relatives continue to live, then in any case you have to (further with obscenities) consume.


      And to live without this ... consumerism did not try?

      We need new clothes for growing children,


      Clothes for growing children are needed, there is no word, but clothes can be bought in a boutique, or at a flea market from the Chinese. It's in the Far East. And in Moscow there are such wonderful shops where our Chinese would buy clothes for themselves. True, you need to know when the sale is, but if you live there and monitor the situation, then you can "clean up" quite often. This is from the experience of my wife's acquaintances who live there and to whom we went.

      need new tires on a car (not a bald one)


      The day is clear what is needed, but I would not say that the price of rubber is directly prohibitive. Once in 2 years you can afford. Again, if you take Chinese or Japanese used rubber, it does not come out so expensive.

      the wife broke the phone by accident - buy a new one,


      Well, if you buy a smartphone for 10-20k rubles, then, of course, expensive. And if the wife is such a slob, then the meow for her for 1,5 thousand and let him be happy. Mine basically basically abandoned the phone more expensive than 1,5k. A telephone is a telephone, not a ferrari.

      the computer is outdated - requires an upgrade,


      Now I am writing this on a computer that I bought in 2008 and I don’t have any special problems about it, and it’s not taxing, the video shows that it supports games with not too fancy graphics. My father generally has an 2003 unit of the year of manufacture (I generally am silent about the firewood that are in the techie). Of course, if you play super-sophisticated games, then for the runoff of thousands of computers, not the most powerful one will be bought. But you need to stretch the legs on clothes.
    2. alicante11
      alicante11 4 February 2016 13: 08
      0
      child need to put braces, alas (and in Moscow now they are asking for 80-120thousand rubles)


      http://habarovsk.dantistika.ru/prices/3.html


      http://www.mystom.ru/prices/orthodontics/


      Something 120 does not smell like thousands. Although, of course, the cost of dental services is horrible. But they were terrible even before the fall in oil prices and with the dollar at 32 ruble. I haven’t been to dentistry for 10 for years, every time we drive children, their hairs stand on end from prices, but this is a long time ago, I repeat.

      I want to eat


      I want to. When there was not enough for weekly visits to the supermarket, we switched to purchasing at a wholesale base for a month. Excluded, shrimp, curds (in which there is less cottage cheese than dyes), Pringles chips, chilled meat, meat delicacies. Soup began to be cooked not on meat, but from ribs. You will be surprised, but they also have meat, it turns out. The savings are VERY substantial. And it was BEFORE the crisis, it just so happened that revenues were reduced. At the same time, when they started searching, they found the opportunity to buy cheap and fresh red fish, which shop trout is not suitable for soles. And a year ago, discounters also began to open in our country. There the choice is small and the goods are not fancy, but the prices are much lower, which is even lower than at the wholesaler. The only thing that I had to give up after the growth of the dollar was to take fresh draft cucumbers and draft beer every week.

      In general, what am I all about. We need to decide. Or we are a society of consumers and then we lie down under the West, raise our paws and try to have fun. Those who "did not join" crawl into the cemetery, a few lucky ones consume in full. Or, after all, we are Russian people and do not cry from difficulties, but turn on the brain and find a way out. Moreover, they experienced much more difficult times (they did not put such bulls in cans).
      1. Infernal man
        Infernal man April 1 2016 05: 48
        0
        Nah, everything's fine. Why do we strive for the best? You can walk in bast shoes - the ancestors walked and nothing. You can eat from the garbage dump, but earthworms - the main thing is to boil it over well. For medical services you can go from Moscow to Khabarovsk on foot, and more than once ....
        How not to spit in the eyes, all God's dew. While you are thinking about how and where to buy Chinese rubber or low-grade frozen goods at a cheaper price, the government is growing weak and swollen. But you go on, you can call everyone to humility and roll into poverty.
        We (our country) are not very curly living and are proud that we can do worse and there’s nothing for us - it's stupid.
  5. CTEPX
    CTEPX 4 February 2016 05: 19
    +1
    Quote: Inok10
    .. well, could it be less commonplace ?! ... quote from an article:

    Yes, the author’s understanding of the processes, based on the thesis of the article, is weak)).
    In addition to the ones you mentioned
    Quote: From the article
    There is probably no such person in our country who, waking up every morning, would not listen to reports from the Moscow Interbank Currency Exchange (MICEX) about the ruble exchange rate.
    there is a phrase
    Quote: From the article
    the national currency has become cheaper by almost one hundred percent, which means that the deposits of citizens, their property, are twice depreciated.
    from which it follows that the author (I would not want to believe that this is S. Stepashin) correlates the realization of the right of citizens of the Russian Federation in terms of property and contributions only abroad.
    Yes, for the devaluation of the currency at one time that Japan, that China, except that a "hot" war was not declared)). It was recognized that this was dumping, receiving undeserved preferences for the national economy.
    Yes, the output recipes are for children

    Quote: From the article
    The country should really earn the import substitution program.

    Declare a state monopoly on the sale of alcohol that the Accounts Chamber of the Russian Federation proposed ten years ago.

    Set a progressive income tax scale.

    Introduce confiscation of property for corrupt officials

    Not even half measures. So, stroke the hair with a comb))
    1. asiat_61
      asiat_61 4 February 2016 06: 10
      0
      While we are repainting dollars into rubles, we will live on. If we believe the Guarantor, then everything is fine with the economy. The Central Bank again takes money out of circulation, they don’t know how to do it differently, the IMF said so. As Glazyev says, people in the world are laughing at our Central Bank.
      1. godun
        godun 4 February 2016 10: 52
        0
        You can trust the guarantor, they have really good things with the economy, it's bad with us. But why do they always tell us about their economy?
  • Starover_Z
    Starover_Z 3 February 2016 21: 53
    +7
    But there were years in the history of modern Russia, when oil was cheaper than now.

    And in the days of the USSR there was a period of formation of the country after the war.
    And the country was not "on a needle" and the import substitution also developed, they did not hear such a word!
    And gasoline was cheaper than mineral water and cheaper than milk!
    And as they began to build pipelines and to drive gas and oil to European countries, they got on the "pipe needle"!
    Managers, economists and lawmakers need salaries
    put depending on the purchase price of the ruble -
    the more rubles you need, the lower their salary and vice versa!
    1. cap
      cap 3 February 2016 22: 04
      +2
      Quote: Starover_Z
      And as they began to build pipelines and to drive gas and oil to European countries, they got on the "pipe needle"!
      Managers, economists and lawmakers need salaries
      put depending on the purchase price of the ruble -
      the more rubles you need, the lower their salary and vice versa!


      +++ When will we start? laughing good
    2. avia1991
      avia1991 3 February 2016 22: 15
      +2
      Quote: Starover_Z
      salary
      put depending on the purchase price of the ruble -
      the more rubles you need, the lower their salary and vice versa!

      Great idea !!! good + + + + +
    3. asiat_61
      asiat_61 4 February 2016 06: 12
      0
      Equal the salary to the minimum wage, and the bonus, if there is economic growth. Well, if not, KAPUT.
  • IrOqUoIs
    IrOqUoIs 3 February 2016 22: 17
    +4
    Do not guarantee foreign currency deposits. Only in rubles.
  • Fregate
    Fregate 3 February 2016 22: 27
    +9
    How to survive with low oil prices

    Gyy .... We ("mere mortals") are more interested in how to survive with high prices for gasoline, drugs and so on.
    1. asiat_61
      asiat_61 4 February 2016 06: 15
      0
      While the ruble is pegged to the dollar, we will settle it.
  • Maxom75
    Maxom75 3 February 2016 22: 42
    +5
    It will not help, they should not be imprisoned and not shot, but exiled to hard labor (let them work out and re-educate them with hard physical labor at risk to life and health). the deadlines should be given in small years of 30. At the same time, the article of corruption should be removed from the provision on the presumption of innocence, the official should live so that at any time of the day or night he could report for every ruble of his income. Fear of punishment should be compensated by the carrot of benefits: life hiring social services. housing, free treatment for him and his family, free first higher education for two of his children, once a year a free ticket to the sanatorium for 10 days for him, his wife and children, a pension of at least 40% of the current salary of the current official (term retirement not earlier than 70 years). But if you get a bribe, all benefits are minuscated, the complete confiscation of the property of the whole family, the loss of family rights (they can never be hired by the public service., Be involved or participate in the state municipal procurement and contracts and the companies in which the members work or are founders family of the convicted under corruption). But the first stage is an analysis of all bills, by-laws on the corruption component, standardization of applications and unification for the whole country (it is not worthwhile to conduct tenders for the purchase of office chairs and register bends of a seat for a specific ass, let them go in for sports and pump the fifth point). All failed projects and applicable laws should be canceled before the changes are made and the state. Duma and anti-corruption commission. Also introduce a rule that if an official submits more than 30% of rejected bills within a year, he must be fired for non-compliance with his official position. The main report of the official’s work should be RESULT, and not the amount of money spent. We’re building a stadium, they didn’t build or didn’t build it. The official who supervised the construction site, who allocated the money, goes to jail together with the developer (the developer for fraud or theft on a large scale, an official for corruption). Then the officials will not drink tea in the offices, but will run around the facilities and control. This is only part of the state reform program. service. Mandatory transfer to electronic government, the official must communicate not with the person, but with the system code. Still cancel tenders in the amount of less than 100000 rubles. and to prohibit the formation of several tenders for one object or one project (we are building a kindergarten, here is a standard project), and then a Dutch auction without the right of additional offices and revisions upward.
    1. avia1991
      avia1991 4 February 2016 01: 29
      +7
      Quote: Maxom75
      complete confiscation of the property of the whole family, loss of family rights (they can never be hired for public service., be involved in or participate in state municipal procurements and contracts and firms in which family members of the convicted family are working or are founders of corruption)
      N-fi-ga, you won’t succeed laughing
      Despite the fact that I support all such fibers, including the etheric shells of the astral body!
      BUT our President recently expressed bewilderment with the proposal of the Communist Party of the Russian Federation to prohibit family members of an official with "weight" from having their own business, saying something like the following: "Is this a" son for a father "? We will then violate the constitutional rights of these people! punishment - and they did not deserve it! " ALL. THE QUESTION CAN BE CLOSED.
      And without these measures - hello, Corruption, in all its diversity! wassat What has the Kremlin commented on about the "business brothers" with the well-known surname "Chaika"? “No corruption was found in the actions of the Prosecutor General in relation to the business of his sons ..” Of course - after all, he did not help them! Only "third parties" laughing
      1. Maxom75
        Maxom75 4 February 2016 10: 54
        -1
        And I believe that such a change must be made and let the son be responsible for the father, then the father, before taking a bribe, will think about the future of his son. Otherwise, we cannot defeat corruption! It is necessary for an official to be afraid of not fulfilling his duties properly, to be afraid to make a mess of people, to be afraid of losing a package of benefits, that's when we can defeat corruption. As now in the army (the nephew is an officer. So his commander says: "if civilians crash into you in a car, then you are to blame, if they start fighting you, you are to blame, you are officers - you are wars and you have no right to mess with civilians." if you fulfill these requirements, the contract is terminated, and your nephew has a salary of 85 thousand + for flights (he is a fighter), he values ​​what he has and does not want to lose).
        1. 2news
          2news 4 February 2016 12: 07
          0
          Quote: Maxom75
          But I believe that such a change should be made and let the son be responsible for the father, then the father will think about the future of his son before taking a bribe.

          Do you propose restoring the hostage system? So this has already happened. And it didn’t help.
          And further. Remind you, for which incl. were the Nazis convicted in Nuremberg? One of the points was just the hostage system they practiced. Those. your proposal has ALREADY been condemned.
          1. Maxom75
            Maxom75 4 February 2016 13: 19
            +1
            what nonsense? everyone thinks to the extent of his depravity. I am for the fact that children can lose the bonuses provided for their parents, if they did not honestly perform their work as a state. employees. The official must know that they can be punished, and if everything is correct and honest, then he and his family are socially protected. And where does Hitler Germany?
        2. avia1991
          avia1991 4 February 2016 18: 43
          0
          Quote: Maxom75
          And I believe that such a change should be made and let the son be responsible for the father,
          Well, it’s you not here — it’s you explain to Putin! He clearly said how he counts wassat And who will convince him to take?
          Quote: Maxom75
          "if civilians crash into you in a car, then you are to blame, if they start to fight you - you are to blame, you are officers - you are wars and you have no right to contact civilians"

          This is stupid. It is necessary to educate officers so that they do not violate the Law - but at the same time it is guaranteed to protect their rights in the event of difficult situations! And what about "if they climb up to you, it's your own fault .." The commander of your nephew probably walks the streets, hiding behind the bushes, and along the wall laughing Today it’s absolutely not necessary to specifically provoke a fight - crazy and enough!
    2. avia1991
      avia1991 4 February 2016 02: 33
      +1
      Quote: Maxom75
      further Dutch auction without the right of dopnikov and revisions upward.

      ..Yes, but this, by the way, is a direct path "to nowhere". For the principle "who is cheaper", which determines the winner today, immediately entails a deterioration in the quality of services or works provided. Because the work cannot cost below the cost price! And for someone to undertake to do it, it is necessary that profit should be added to the cost price. And here (in construction) they often seize the winnings with wild price reductions - and then the customers either cry because "the ceiling is falling on their heads" (in the literal sense), or endlessly sue the contractors. Another option: the contractor fulfills the terms of reference at the very least, hiring illegal immigrants "from the south" - and then stupidly "throws" them, thus saving costs - so as not to leave the contract at the expense of himself. I must say that in this case the QUALITY is also below the plinth.
      So it turns out that KA-CES-TVO should be put at the forefront of tenders - and not what you offer request Moreover, the quality confirmed by letters of recommendation from previous Customers of the contracting company. And this QUALITY work must be paid accordingly!
      1. Maxom75
        Maxom75 4 February 2016 10: 43
        +2
        Volzhsky, Volgograd region held a tender for the construction of a kindergarten, three companies participated in the auction. The technical task was issued, the prices of the two firms differed by 1200 rubles. The offer price is 268 million rubles. (the company had three employees in the state (director, accountant and manager's office), the third, not affiliated with the deputy head of the city administration, offered to build a kindergarten for 164 million rubles (by the way, a well-known local company has all the equipment and specialists in the company's staff). Project documents were issued by the administration for TWO YEARS! With this, 1200 changes were made aimed at raising the cost of the project! The owner of the construction company completed the construction of the d / s without taking a dime extra, even invested his 10 million on top. After that, the administration "heroically" opened this d / s, and a criminal case was opened against the director of a construction company for tax evasion, he added 10 million of his own, but did not pay income tax on them. This is how the state machine works in the country. Every year they raise tariffs for electricity and heat, I am one year (2014) decided to figure out why they were raising the price in our city, and lo and behold, he even got documents! As it turned out, the reason for raising the price of OJSC Lukoil (its structure tours of the controlling CHPP-1 and CHPP-2 in the city of Volzhsky), it became necessary to compensate for the costs: for the repair of heating mains in the amount of 12 million rubles, the repair of the office building of the CHPP-2 control building 25 million rubles, the purchase of office furniture 18 million rubles, the purchase of office equipment in the amount of 12 million rubles, purchase of premium SUVs for managers in the amount of 12 units, in the amount of 96 million rubles. Such a document was sent to agree on an increase in the price of heat by 15%, for electricity by 14%. Are these all profile costs? Personally, I do not understand why a car for 8 lamas. so that the director drove the ass? Do I have to pay for this? And so everywhere !!!
        1. Maxom75
          Maxom75 4 February 2016 13: 21
          +1
          cool minus for the fact that he brought the facts of theft of budget funds. Apparently there are thieves among the readers of the site. (((They don’t give their own.
  • wandlitz
    wandlitz 4 February 2016 04: 49
    +1
    The main thing is to confiscate stolen by these reptiles.
  • ver_
    ver_ 4 February 2016 05: 26
    -1
    ..and it would not be a bad idea to return hard labor ...
  • puffnutiy
    puffnutiy 4 February 2016 13: 52
    0
    Quote: 4ekist
    And transplant embezzlers.


    There is such a formulation: "the highest measure of social protection."

    But seriously, I think a lot of work would be found for embezzlers. Roads to build, for example, railway lines to lay in taiga. In our country, people are constantly lacking at construction sites, but here such a resource is at hand!
  • Telemon
    Telemon 3 February 2016 21: 34
    -8
    Apparently, President Putin "subtly" advised "interested" persons on what SHOULD be done, usually they listened to his advice ... So as not to anger and blow your head.
    1. Bongo
      Bongo 4 February 2016 02: 34
      +3
      Quote: Telemont
      Apparently, President Putin "subtly" advised "interested" persons on what SHOULD be done, usually they listened to his advice ... So as not to anger and blow your head.

      President Putin has said and promised a lot. If half of his promises came true, we probably would have lived under communism.
      1. Telemon
        Telemon 4 February 2016 05: 42
        -1
        Show at least one word from my commentary on promises from GDP ... Weak!
        1. avia1991
          avia1991 4 February 2016 10: 27
          0
          Quote: Telemont
          Show at least one word from my comment

          And why? Are you surprised by the cons?
          As far as I understand, you were blamed for the indistinctly indicated position - it is difficult to understand WHAT EXACTLY you wanted to say with this phrase. hi
  • goblin xnumx
    goblin xnumx 3 February 2016 21: 34
    +6
    how- how to raise gas prices light gas fines taxes for the population and salaries and bonuses for the top- a long-gone topic
  • NIKNN
    NIKNN 3 February 2016 21: 35
    13
    To introduce confiscation of property for corrupt officials, which was also mentioned by Vladimir Putin.

    Correct, of course, but bad luck, a corrupt official will never catch a corrupt person ... request
    1. Uncle VasyaSayapin
      Uncle VasyaSayapin 3 February 2016 21: 49
      +6
      Yes, the fact of the matter is that they catch each other. There are no others. Corruption is the foundation of the power vertical.
      1. Fat
        Fat 4 February 2016 00: 45
        +3
        Quote: Uncle VasyaSayapin
        Yes, the fact of the matter is that they catch each other. There are no others. Corruption is the foundation of the power vertical.

        laughing It should have been more diplomatic - basic component good
  • RUSS
    RUSS 3 February 2016 21: 35
    +1
    Declare a state monopoly on the sale of alcohol-It will be difficult to take it back and explain why the state abandoned the monopoly, and now wants to return it, and this is a huge business and not always gray. Caucasian princes and entrepreneurs will surely raise a storm, "how is that? It was ours legal, but now it is not?"
    1. sabakina
      sabakina 3 February 2016 22: 23
      +3
      Quote: RUSS
      Declare a state monopoly on the sale of alcohol-it will be difficult to take back

      Interestingly, so that Comrade Stalin would respond to such a remark? Although why interesting? We even know!
  • iouris
    iouris 3 February 2016 21: 36
    +3
    Quote:
    What is the way out of the situation?
    Listen to serious scientists ...
    End of quote.
    To do this, you need to learn to listen to academics, and not to interrupt them.
    1. Uncle VasyaSayapin
      Uncle VasyaSayapin 3 February 2016 21: 51
      +4
      What other nafig academicians. Economics as a science does not exist. Children in universities are fooling around.
  • vlad_vlad
    vlad_vlad 3 February 2016 21: 40
    +6
    "Declare a state monopoly for sale ...
    Set a progressive income tax scale ...
    Introduce confiscation of property for corrupt officials ... "

    class! suggestions boil down to "select and divide" :-)
    And where are the proposals on the topic "to help small business, to reduce management costs, to achieve independence of judicial proceedings from" calls from the right people "?
    1. Uncle VasyaSayapin
      Uncle VasyaSayapin 3 February 2016 21: 52
      +4
      Yeah, still remember the mechanisms of public control, freedom of the press. Yes, this article is an ordinary populism for voters. If he really wanted to fight corruption, he would simply announce through his own channels that from January 1, corruption is unacceptable, who has managed to dash, this is history, and henceforth no. 1 friend, 1 incumbent minister and five members of the boards of directors of state corporations planted everything. Everyone would believe. only next he will fly. And what for us will end this hawn cleansing is unknown.
      That's it, unfortunately. Do not build illusions and engage in self-deception. We need to work in what we have and educate the next generation correctly.
      1. RUSS
        RUSS 3 February 2016 22: 04
        +2
        Quote: Uncle VasyaSayapin
        Yes, this article is an ordinary populism for voters.

        So like Stepashin is not going to be elected anywhere?
        1. Fat
          Fat 4 February 2016 01: 14
          0
          Quote: RUSS
          So like Stepashin is not going to be elected anywhere?

          Stepashin is "Yablochnik", so either the Duma or the President
          Former senator and founder of the bankrupt Mezhprombank Sergey Pugachev, now living in London and wanted by the RF IC in the fraud case, gave an interview to Dozhd channel, in which he talked about his participation in the nomination of Vladimir Putin for the presidency in 1999.
          Pugachev noted that two candidates were considered for the role of Yeltsin's successor - Vladimir Putin and Prime Minister Sergei Stepashin. Pugachev said that Putin himself proposed the candidacy. By that time, Vladimir Putin was involved in the political process as the director of the FSB and was "a key figure, a representative of the security forces."

          http://www.dk.ru/news/senator-pugachev-rasskazal-kak-pomog-putinu-v-1999-godu-st

          at-prezidentom-236954224
          You might think that Stepashin is not a security official ...
    2. 2news
      2news 4 February 2016 00: 04
      +1
      Quote: vlad_vlad
      class! suggestions boil down to "select and divide" :-)

      Bravo.
      True, the Sharikov just like that.
      1. avia1991
        avia1991 4 February 2016 01: 36
        +2
        Quote: 2news
        Bravo.
        True, the Sharikov just like it

        If this is exaggerated, then the Sharikovs must be attributed, first of all, to themselves.
        The key proposal is “to listen to the academicians,” and then a reminder of S. Glazyev, who, at least, has a clearly stated economic development strategy.
        Your proposal, as I understand it, boils down to the fact that "there is nothing to hope for, nothing to dream - you have to wipe yourself off and endure what you have, trying to somehow adapt."
        Well - I wish you success! hi
        1. 2news
          2news 4 February 2016 01: 42
          0
          Quote: avia1991
          then the Sharikovs must be attributed, first of all, to themselves.

          Read more. Then you will know the classics. And you will not write nonsense.
          Quote: avia1991
          which, at least, has a clearly articulated economic development strategy.

          Did you read it yourself, or did "the clever uncle from the box explain everything specifically and clearly to you"? Even the janitor has a concept. Another thing is what the concept is.
          Quote: avia1991
          Your proposal, as I understand it, boils down to the fact that "there is nothing to hope for, nothing to dream - you have to wipe yourself off and endure what you have, trying to somehow adapt."

          Are you on 6 words such profound conclusions made? Well done! You should take the place of Grandma Wang. It is now just vacant.
      2. Just BB
        Just BB 4 February 2016 04: 37
        0
        So a flock of "ball-type" ones has been coping with it very successfully since 1991
  • Dr. Bormental
    Dr. Bormental 3 February 2016 21: 45
    10
    Can Maltz deputies lower salaries? And denyuzhki-pensioners. Or the kids. And then you look at which channel - everywhere alms are asked for operations by the kids. Shame, gentlemen ... begging on a large scale, and most importantly, no one is ashamed ... the old women list their pennies, and the state wow .... there isn’t enough evil.
    1. Mavrikiy
      Mavrikiy 3 February 2016 21: 51
      +4
      Quote: Dr. Bormental
      Can Maltz deputies lower salaries?


      There is no cross on you, dear. But they will not survive a fall in oil prices.
      And what will happen to the people?
      1. Dr. Bormental
        Dr. Bormental 3 February 2016 21: 58
        +6
        He will understand the people and forgive.
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      3. avia1991
        avia1991 3 February 2016 22: 02
        11
        Quote: Mavrikiy
        There is no cross on you, dear

        Sarcasm is a good thing.
        But here, as an option, the deputy of the Supreme Soviet of the USSR was not a "liberated labor unit", but worked, as a rule, at the main place of work, bearing the duties of a deputy as a public assignment! And getting some exemptions for this in the form of bonuses, permits, additional spikes - but not the possibility of constant and daily parasiting on the neck of the people!
        Lawyers do not have time to rake the results of legislative activity .. but there are so many laws that are not needed! Everything has been written for a long time: "DO NOT KILL, DO NOT STEAL ..." It is necessary to perform what is, and do it for EVERYONE! And to disperse the deputies to hell! For this, too, much is not required: it is enough to deprive them of preferences, and set a salary at the level of the "average" wassat - run yourself!
        1. 2news
          2news 4 February 2016 00: 07
          -3
          Quote: avia1991
          bearing the duties of a deputy as a public assignment!

          Those deputies had no obligations whatsoever, except in the beautiful hall sometimes sitting and raising a hand upwards on the team. Therefore, they were not released.
          1. avia1991
            avia1991 4 February 2016 01: 47
            +9
            Quote: 2news
            There were no duties for those deputies

            Young man!
            I turn it this way, because if you had the experience of living in the USSR at a conscious age, you would not have written such nonsense!
            So - I know firsthand how many issues important for ordinary people were solved in his free time by the father of my classmate, a CNC machine operator at the Tochpribor plant, and at the same time a deputy of the Supreme Soviet of the RSFSR (not the USSR, a little lower in rank) ... From this he had a headache, graters with the management - and not only of his plant - but also sincere gratitude to people and organizations (!), Whom he managed to help! In addition, he regularly conducted reception of citizens in the parliamentary reception, and this was quite an official duty.
            And that was not a burden - it was the Honor that people rendered! So that, if you don’t know HOW IT WAS - please do not speak out with such neglect.
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              1. Just BB
                Just BB 4 February 2016 04: 49
                -2
                Bravo!
                Here is the real speech of the Real Scoop! (although, probably, the person did not live in those days, which he describes so "colorfully")
                Bl.... The soul measures the presence of crystal and a wall rag
                1. avia1991
                  avia1991 4 February 2016 10: 38
                  +1
                  Quote: Just BB
                  (although, probably, the person did not live in those days, which he describes so "colorfully")

                  Is that you, sir? Measure the pedigree? wassat
                  What I write, I saw myself. If you missed these moments, I sympathize. But let's compare? Tell us about the good glorious deeds of modern deputies? Having, by the way, much greater financial and administrative opportunities for real help!
                  And they are being chosen now .. I already wrote: the contribution for participation in the elections for a candidate for a seat in the municipality of a regional center is 4-5 Lyamas. This is something that DOES NOT RETURN! Regardless of the voting results. I don't know for sure about the higher authorities - but no less, of course! Well, WHO WILL GO THERE? "Servants of the People"? laughing
                  1. Just BB
                    Just BB 5 February 2016 06: 53
                    +1
                    avia1991 (4) RU Yesterday, 10:38 ↑ New
                    Quote: Just VV
                    (although, probably, the person did not live in those days, which he describes so "colorfully")
                    Is that you, sir? Measure the pedigree? wassat
                    What I write, I saw myself. If you missed these moments, I sympathize. But let's compare? Tell us about the good glorious deeds of modern deputies? Having, by the way, much greater financial and administrative opportunities for real help!
                    And they are being chosen now .. I already wrote: the contribution for participation in the elections for a candidate for a seat in the municipality of a regional center is 4-5 Lyamas. This is something that DOES NOT RETURN! Regardless of the voting results. I don't know for sure about the higher authorities - but no less, of course! Well, WHO WILL GO THERE? "Servants of the People"? laughing


                    FRIEND!
                    hi Sorry, thanks "architecture" of site comments it turned out that my "com" refers to yours.

                    THIS IS ABSOLUTELY WRONG !!!

                    I don’t find that comment, maybe they deleted it ....
                    And quarreled us hi
          2. alicante11
            alicante11 4 February 2016 13: 14
            +1

            Those deputies had no obligations whatsoever, except in the beautiful hall sometimes sitting and raising a hand upwards on the team. Therefore, they were not released.


            Well, the hand, apparently, was raised correctly. But isn’t that the case now? Only here are those laws for which hands raise - there is nowhere to put samples on them.
    2. Wheel
      Wheel 3 February 2016 23: 06
      +2
      Quote: Dr. Bormental
      And then you look at which channel - everywhere alms are asked for operations by the kids.

      It has long been known that this is a business, and quite profitable.
  • DPN
    DPN 3 February 2016 21: 50
    +5
    While RUSSIA will struggle with the SOVIET past, nothing good will be. A planned economy will not replace anything. We have 144 million and everyone wants to eat, but this is simply not profitable for the market. Now they remember the Soviet word SPECULANTS, excuse the private trader and the capitalist cannot be a speculator, he is a businessman for him the benefit above all.

    The simple recipe is not to pit Bely with the Reds. We first started, and the former republics went further.
    1. avia1991
      avia1991 3 February 2016 22: 05
      +3
      Quote: DPN
      he is a businessman for him, profit is above all.

      Yes, yes .. only the methods for obtaining this benefit are different for everyone - and for the majority they are worse than the mentioned speculators.
  • avia1991
    avia1991 3 February 2016 21: 51
    +7
    In the meantime, it seems that we live by the principle: where the curve will take out.
    Well, what is this "impression", Mr. Stepashin ?! And there is! This is the main guiding line of the government: to sit quietly on the priest, depicting "ebullient activity" - maybe it will "resolve itself" ..
  • bad
    bad 3 February 2016 21: 52
    +4
    There is probably no such person in our country who, waking up every morning, would not listen to reports from the Moscow Interbank Currency Exchange (MICEX) about the ruble exchange rate.
    ...I have! laughing .. I don’t listen to reports, I don’t look at quotes ... violet, and I don’t have millions, but what gets into my hands is spent so that inflation goes by the forest .. although I don’t fatten, but I have enough for life ... and I wish you. . hi
    1. avia1991
      avia1991 3 February 2016 22: 07
      +6
      Quote: bad
      enough for life .. and I wish you.

      For life - yes. And me, for example, too.
      Now imagine a young family ..? And think, what and how they can "amass"?
      1. 2news
        2news 4 February 2016 00: 13
        -7
        Quote: avia1991
        Now imagine a young family ..? And think, what and how they can "amass"?

        Everyone can make money. But for this you can’t sit at home. If the houses don’t pay normally, then you have to go to another city. It doesn’t work in another city, to be recruited into guest houses. This is normal practice for half the world. Only prosperous countries can afford to provide their citizens with work at home. Russia is not among them.
        But lazy whiners, of course, sitting on the stove, will not gain anything. In addition to cirrhosis of the liver.
        1. avia1991
          avia1991 4 February 2016 02: 02
          +6
          Quote: 2news
          It doesn’t work in another city, to be recruited into guest houses.

          Wonderful! Have you forgotten that I'm about a young family? And what do you offer them?
          The order is given: to him - to the West,
          To her - to the other side ...
          So, what? You, judging by the flag, are exactly what you are doing. And if a mess happens, "Homeland is in danger" - what will you do? Will you sit out there in silence?
          And why on earth, let me know, should our children go to Geyropes, wanting to provide themselves with a "more or less normal" existence? How many guest workers do we have now ?! Why not employ their own citizens instead of them? Ghast now demands a lot - they track the dollar exchange rate clearly! Only "illegal immigrants" are profitable to cunning businessmen, while those with a patent ask for more "average Russian". WHAT IS HINDERING THE STATE? !! "Caring for" fraternal "peoples" ?!
          In general, I fundamentally disagree with your point of view. If you like to grovel in front of Western owners, just because they pay in Eureka - the flag of Great Britain in hand. And finally, the advice inspired by this:
          Quote: 2news
          lazy whiners, of course, sitting on the stove, they won’t make anything. In addition to cirrhosis of the liver.
          It’s bad form to blame everyone for it, all the more so - without proof. And the contempt that sounds to you will return to you as a boomerang. So - be careful! Especially in thoughts - for they are visible to the Lord, and he punishes evil thoughts wassat
          1. 2news
            2news 4 February 2016 21: 20
            -1
            Quote: avia1991
            Wonderful! Have you forgotten that I'm about a young family? And what do you offer them?

            Do you have problems understanding what is written in Russian? Then I repeat, bring down from where they cannot earn money. This is normal world practice. The trough from the Emelyn furnace was dragged. Apparently, forever (or very long). There will be no more free food. Is that a baland.
            Quote: avia1991
            And if a mess happens, "Homeland is in danger" - what will you do?

            Do not worry, I’ll figure it out. And the young family will also figure it out.
            Quote: avia1991
            And why on earth, let me know, our children should go to geyropov

            Because you and such talkers as you were unable to provide them with normal living and working conditions in their homeland. Therefore, in the guest. Like all other residents of third world countries. There are no other options. Post-Soviet "oil happiness" is over.
            Quote: avia1991
            We have how many guest workers now ?! Why not instead employ their own citizens?

            Already not enough. And every day less and less. Not enough for all local jobs.
            The time to take the guest is over. The time has come to engage in a guesthouse.
            Quote: avia1991
            In general, I fundamentally disagree with your point of view. If you like to grovel in front of the western owners, just because they pay in Eureka - the flag of Great Britain in hand

            Your opinion interests me a little. It is of little interest to a young family. She is interested in building the future. To do this, work. And to have the ground for construction. But pathos yapping in the internet of the future can not be built.
            Quote: avia1991
            for they are visible to the Lord, and he punishes evil thoughts

            You state bad thoughts. You can’t imagine a more stupid position than sitting in one place and waiting at the sea for weather.
            However, this is most likely a mentality. I’ll die of hunger, but I won’t tear my ass off the stove. And the state is me owes feed, drink, heat and put to bed. Let the bunks, let the baland, let the potbelly stove it doesn’t matter. The main thing is obliged. PPC is simple.
  • Indifferent
    Indifferent 3 February 2016 21: 55
    +4
    You might think thieves in the government will plant themselves! Most of them are completely unscrupulous people. They see how hard it is to make up the budget now, how hard every extra ruble is to get, and instead of increasing the cost of roads, social benefits and education with medicine, they buy expensive cars, luxury items in their offices and other expenses that you can easily do without. I am silent about useless business trips abroad. They seem to be charged to get as much money out of the state as possible and spend on loved ones. Call in a small town. There are no roads at all. Only the horse will drive. But at the local house of the Mayor is a Mercedes or Tayota for a half million rubles.
    And my suggestion is very simple. To raise a small business, you need to print money and give it to real hard workers at zero percent and exempt from taxes for two years. That's all! And in two years the country will not be recognized. This will not unleash inflation. Because a small business with this money will immediately begin to produce products!
    1. Wheel
      Wheel 3 February 2016 23: 11
      +1
      Quote: indifferent
      Because a small business with this money will immediately begin to produce products!

      What kind of products?
      Of what?
      Who will buy it?
      And, in general, why should a small business strain something, if it is easier and cheaper to order in China?
      1. avia1991
        avia1991 4 February 2016 02: 43
        +1
        Quote: Wheel
        if it is easier and cheaper to order in China?

        Have experience? ..
        That "yesterday" was cheaper. And today not a single gram is cheap! So there is a reason to try to give birth to something of your own. wink
        1. Uncle VasyaSayapin
          Uncle VasyaSayapin 4 February 2016 09: 16
          0
          That's right: to give small and medium-sized businesses for real investment projects, not only for free, but at a low%. It is clear that from 20 to 75%, depending on the region, is simply plundered, but the rest will boost the economy.
      2. Indifferent
        Indifferent 4 February 2016 05: 38
        +1
        In China, you need to pay dollars, and they have become three times more expensive.
        As for what to produce, a small business in industry produces a component automobile detail. Gaskets, nameplates, pens, buttons and so on. Tens of thousands of items. Plus small devices of various automation, plus light industry from underpants to pillowcases and so on .... After all, we buy everything over the Bugr. Further processing of agriculture. Where did our green peas, pickled mushrooms, jam, caviar go? Can everyone do their business?
        1. avia1991
          avia1991 4 February 2016 10: 47
          0
          Quote: indifferent
          Where did our green peas, pickled mushrooms, jam, caviar go? Can everyone do their business?

          Well, then tell me: what are you Indifferent?.. laughing
          good
  • Dr. Bormental
    Dr. Bormental 3 February 2016 21: 55
    +6
    Today I read in the Communist Party that from the 17th year they will introduce a tax on garbage ....
    1. Wheel
      Wheel 3 February 2016 23: 54
      +4
      Quote: Dr. Bormental
      Today I read in the Communist Party that from the 17th year they will introduce a tax on garbage ....

      Expected ...
      The next step is the air tax ...
      Something "Chippolino" remembered .... laughing
  • ser-pov
    ser-pov 3 February 2016 21: 56
    +4
    Do I have deja vu? In my opinion this guy was already at the helm? And as far as I remember, nothing good came of it ... negative
    1. RUSS
      RUSS 3 February 2016 22: 11
      +2
      Quote: ser-pov
      In my opinion this guy was already at the helm?

      Was at the helm for 3 months, they did not give work ....
    2. avia1991
      avia1991 4 February 2016 02: 16
      +1
      Quote: ser-pov
      And as far as I remember, nothing good came of it ...

      And HOW MUCH remember? When taxied, how and by whom? Maybe it's better to blame the evidence?
      He really did nothing really good. But at least I didn’t do dirty things like some .. better remember Kasyanov.
  • sl22277
    sl22277 3 February 2016 21: 56
    0
    Half the world will collapse if oil is long at a low price. I think this is temporary. There is only one survival method - the Russian ruble should cease to be an oil ruble. Fortunately, the budget consists not only of oil and gas dollars.
    1. Wheel
      Wheel 3 February 2016 23: 57
      +3
      Quote: sl22277
      Half the world will collapse if oil is long at a low price.

      Why did it happen?
      Cheap oil is beneficial to consumers.
      1. Fat
        Fat 4 February 2016 01: 29
        +2
        Quote: Wheel
        Quote: sl22277
        Half the world will collapse if oil is long at a low price.

        Why did it happen?
        Cheap oil is beneficial to consumers.

        And sellers-traders benefit from expensive oil. How to speculate? crying
        1. Uncle VasyaSayapin
          Uncle VasyaSayapin 4 February 2016 09: 32
          +1
          They make money out of thin air, not at the resale of oil, but at the "financial services" - the resale of "securities" that cannot even be wiped off. The oil ruble is not the ruble, which is the currency of an economy based on energy exports. Such a ruble is more likely a dollar ruble, since it is derived from the dollar. The oil ruble is the currency to which oil is tied. Let's say oil costs 3000 rubles. and everything is nafig. Since now oil is also needed by the economy as food for living organisms, all other goods, including food products derived from it, and must also be quoted in rubles. And the Russian Federation prints rubles. The idea is clear I think.
    2. 2news
      2news 4 February 2016 00: 23
      -3
      Quote: sl22277
      There is only one survival method - the Russian ruble should cease to be an oil ruble.

      Great method. The main thing is unexpected.
      The problem is that to achieve it, everyone needs to work hard together DECADES... But this is hard to believe. And in "decades", and in "all together", and in "tense". Much more is believed in collective shock work for a bowl of gourd for the benefit of the next ..ism. It's just much easier to bungle.
  • not main
    not main 3 February 2016 21: 56
    0
    Of course, most of the proposals will be at the level: "change the government" or the president! But this does not solve the problem! It is possible to solve the problem (no matter how trite), but this is an increase in labor productivity, an increase in REAL (shown salary), a victory over corruption, a restriction in opportunities for oligarchs and much more! There is no point in listing!
    1. Dr. Bormental
      Dr. Bormental 3 February 2016 22: 04
      +4
      And how do you imagine this, if we live on earth, and the government is in heaven. Knockin 'on Heaven? smile
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  • basmach
    basmach 3 February 2016 22: 00
    10
    "The strategy of Vladimir Putin:" The end is near "" - this is the title of an article from the economic review - in my opinion, it very specifically expresses the entire policy of the Kremlin, headed by the GDP. To fool the people, everything was used - the outbreak of nationalism, the search for an external enemy, "small victorious wars - Crimea and Syria). Only all this already happened, at the beginning of the 20th century in the Russian Empire. Now we have agreed that the national idea should be patriotism. Sorry, from Wikipedia- "Patriotism (Greek πατριώτης - compatriot, πατρίς - fatherland) - a moral and political principle, a social feeling, the content of which is love for the fatherland and the willingness to sacrifice their private interests for the benefit of the interests of the fatherland.
    "The national idea in philosophy is a systematized generalization of national self-consciousness. The national idea determines the meaning of the existence of this or that people, ethnos or nation. The national idea is designed to answer a number of questions that characterize the people. In particular, the question of history and the emergence of a nation, as well as the question of historical mission and the meaning of existence ". As it does not fit. Patriots are not only Russians. Every country and nation has patriots and patriotism. It turns out that we with the Germans in 41-45 had one national idea for all. I hope no one will deny that patriotism is inherent not only to us. And what kind of patriotism the Commander-in-Chief speaks of, sitting in an armchair and not paying much attention to the passing and saluting troops (even though he is an officer). saluted, but the commander-in-chief is not with his hand (which one of them is a patriot?). I don't remember a similar case either in the history of the USSR or imperial Russia.
    1. avia1991
      avia1991 4 February 2016 02: 53
      +3
      Quote: basmach
      "The national idea in philosophy is a systematized generalization of national self-awareness

      Ahead, the parasite .. laughing ++
      He himself thought about this, and suggested the appearance of the corresponding article the next day.
      That's right: Patriotism cannot be a "national idea", it is a property, an "instrument", in a way. And the Idea is a nation-wide value, Aim, the achievement of which will help, for example, the triumph of Justice, or radically improve the life of ALL citizens .. But just Ideas we have NO! And the President's statement shows once again the helplessness of our "elites" in the search for something "uniting" .. although maybe it's not about helplessness? SIMPLY UNWISE? ..
  • PBF
    PBF 3 February 2016 22: 00
    -6
    Quote: bad
    There is probably no such person in our country who, waking up every morning, would not listen to reports from the Moscow Interbank Currency Exchange (MICEX) about the ruble exchange rate.
    ...I have! laughing .. I don’t listen to reports, I don’t look at quotes ... violet, and I don’t have millions, but what gets into my hands is spent so that inflation goes by the forest .. although I don’t fatten, but I have enough for life ... and I wish you. . hi

    And I! I, too, absolutely do not care, more interested in the morning weather and traffic jams.
    1. Dr. Bormental
      Dr. Bormental 3 February 2016 22: 10
      +7
      But I'm interested in, I need to feed my family, make plans for the future. There is such a saying - "If you are not interested in politics, politics will be interested in you"
  • aba
    aba 3 February 2016 22: 07
    +9
    Quote: non-primary
    But this does not solve the problem!


    But we voiced the national idea: PATRIOTISM!
    I have nothing against patriotism, even "FOR". But in this case, this is a simple verbiage, since patriotism is not a national idea, it is a state of society or a person.
    1. RUSS
      RUSS 3 February 2016 22: 14
      +2
      Quote: aba
      But we voiced the national idea: PATRIOTISM!
      I have nothing against patriotism, even "FOR". But in this case, this is a simple verbiage, since patriotism is not a national idea, it is a state of society or a person.

      I support GDP in many respects, but patriotism is really not clear how it fits with the national idea? My opinion is that GDP is more concerned about foreign policy (where it succeeded) than domestic policy, there is nobody to do at home .....
      1. aba
        aba 3 February 2016 22: 56
        +1
        So I also support, but I understand that his team is not so hot.
        Shoigu? Good and in its place. But he is alone.
        Rogozin? So only in social networks PR.
        Who else is at the hearing ?! Oh yes! Sand!
        1. RUSS
          RUSS 3 February 2016 23: 03
          +2
          Quote: aba
          So I also support, but I understand that his team is not so hot.

          By the way, he spoke out in defense of officials today, saying that we are all one people and officials are working to ensure that the country is stronger.
        2. Mordvin 3
          Mordvin 3 3 February 2016 23: 24
          +3
          Quote: aba
          So I also support, but I understand that his team is not so hot.
          Shoigu? Good and in its place. But he is alone.
          Rogozin? So only in social networks PR.
          Who else is at the hearing ?! Oh yes! Sand!

          There is also the order bearer Markin from the Investigative Committee. Pretty popular person. Probably a patriot.
          1. aba
            aba 4 February 2016 01: 23
            0
            Oh yeah! Absolutely right! wink
        3. alicante11
          alicante11 4 February 2016 13: 21
          0
          Shoigu? Good and in its place. But he is alone.


          Lavrov what is bad?

          GDP has a good team, but they are limited in funds. They have no right to move away from the liberal model of the economy, the oligarch masters do not allow, this is their weakness.
      2. PHANTOM-AS
        PHANTOM-AS 3 February 2016 23: 17
        +4
        Quote: RUSS
        that GDP is more concerned about foreign policy (where did it succeed)

        Please list "successes", otherwise I missed something.
      3. avia1991
        avia1991 4 February 2016 03: 33
        +2
        Quote: RUSS
        My opinion is that GDP is more concerned about foreign policy

        Maxim, did you read this article: http://maxpark.com/community/politic/content/4908832 ??
        BASMACH mentioned. In general, an interesting picture, if you accept that it is - much becomes clear! Including Putin’s reluctance to change any of the ministers .. hi
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  • Tambov Wolf
    Tambov Wolf 3 February 2016 22: 09
    +4
    Whoever would be opposed, but only the guarantor is silent, like a fish in an ice hole. It is evident that Koki-naki is well held.
    1. Dr. Bormental
      Dr. Bormental 3 February 2016 22: 12
      +2
      I also think so ... it seems like only overclocking will take-it slows down .. and so all the time.
      1. Telemon
        Telemon 4 February 2016 05: 46
        0
        So after all, if you do not slow down in a bend in time, you can not reach your destination, but ... recourse
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  • Lumumba
    Lumumba 3 February 2016 22: 11
    +8
    Bayan remembered:

    Running means a monkey in the forest and yells: Krizi-and-and-is !!! Cree-and-isis !!! The fox stops the monkey and asks:
    - Why are you yelling?
    - So the crisis is the same! Everything is lost!
    - Well I do not know. I ate chicken as I eat chicken.
    The monkey runs further towards the wolf:
    - Che broke into the whole forest?
    - So the crisis is in fact, we will all become poor!
    - It's strange. I ate meat, just like meat.
    And the monkey ran on, runs, screams, when she suddenly got up in her tracks and a thought came to her mind. Why am I yelling? There, the fox as ate and eat chicken, as the wolf ate chicken, it eats, and I have been running with my barefoot all my life, so I have been running with barefoot.
  • Lumumba
    Lumumba 3 February 2016 22: 11
    +1
    And another button accordion:

    You can endlessly observe how the fire burns, water flows and how the price of oil falls / the dollar / euro rises (underline the necessary).
    1. Dr. Bormental
      Dr. Bormental 3 February 2016 22: 18
      0
      Personally, for me it is so ... as I was a year-old doctor, I will die. I don’t die of hunger, but I don’t earn on the Canaries either. And patients will bring me cognac. And I saw dollars and euros only in pictures smile
      1. RUSS
        RUSS 3 February 2016 22: 25
        +3
        Quote: Dr. Bormental
        Personally, for me it is so ... as I was a year-old doctor, I will die

        As my grandmother used to say, "they didn't live richly and don't start a hell of a lot."
        1. Dr. Bormental
          Dr. Bormental 3 February 2016 22: 42
          0
          yep .. cool phrase, take note winked
          1. Just BB
            Just BB 4 February 2016 05: 07
            +1
            If we have already hit the folklore - then: "At first we had nothing, and then we were robbed!" belay
          2. avia1991
            avia1991 4 February 2016 11: 10
            +1
            Quote: Dr. Bormental
            yep .. cool phrase, take note

            Doctor, doctor .. have you completely turned into something? First of all, THINKING needs to be done differently, namely: EVERYTHING WILL BE WELL! wink And do not just think - BELIEVE.
            And if you think that everything is bad - the way it will be. hi
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      2. 2news
        2news 4 February 2016 00: 32
        -1
        Quote: Dr. Bormental
        but I don’t earn on the Canaries either

        In the Canaries I do not recommend. Not the place to go. Some show off.
        Quote: Dr. Bormental
        And I saw dollars and euros only in pictures

        You still cut your leg, and then you are very proud of it. The grounds will be approximately the same.
        Quote: Dr. Bormental
        yep .. cool phrase, take note

        As O. Bender would say, "the talent for begging has been in you since childhood."
  • clidon
    clidon 3 February 2016 22: 12
    +2
    When Primakov taxied and oil was not much cheaper than now, both the military and the Ministry of Internal Affairs budget were much poorer and social payments were less. This is so by the way.
    1. Inok10
      Inok10 3 February 2016 22: 50
      +4
      Quote: clidon
      When Primakov taxied and oil was not much cheaper than now, both the military and the Ministry of Internal Affairs budget were much poorer and social payments were less. This is so by the way.

      ... Evgeny Maksimovich, Bright memory to him ... hi ... was a career intelligence officer ... SVR is an independent state, in an independent state ... when Gerashchenko told the Paris Club of creditors, your money for "partners" ... there was a shock ... they expected to receive interest for years 50 .. and then a paddle all over the face ... laughing
  • Million
    Million 3 February 2016 22: 12
    +1
    Medvedev said investments are needed to boost the economy. He said nothing about the rest, probably nothing else is needed.
    1. RUSS
      RUSS 3 February 2016 22: 27
      +6
      Quote: Million
      Medvedev said investments are needed to boost the economy. He said nothing about the rest, probably nothing else is needed.

      Medvedev said nothing, Putin added about patriotism, in general investment + patriotism and we will be happy laughing
      1. PHANTOM-AS
        PHANTOM-AS 3 February 2016 23: 04
        +3
        Quote: RUSS
        in general investment + patriotism and we will be happy

        this is a paraphrase of a very familiar: "twisting, twisting, I want to confuse everyone" or "life is bad without a sucker" laughing
        1. Paranoid50
          Paranoid50 4 February 2016 01: 28
          +2
          It was also much more global: "Communism is Soviet Power plus the electrification of the whole country" (VI Ulyanov-Lenin). In the kitchens, this expression was interpreted as follows: "Soviet Power is Communism minus the electrification of the whole country." Just a joke, but in the original version, the expression was very relevant for its time.
  • Nyrobsky
    Nyrobsky 3 February 2016 22: 18
    +5
    The problem of the ruble is not oil, but the excessive appetite of speculators. Hence the keen desire of the Medvedev government to manage to privatize state property. Cabbage was chopped up at the exchange rate races, now this cabbage, under the pretext of filling the budget, will be washed out through the purchase of state assets, after which the ruble exchange rate will go uphill. After all, a year and a half ago, for the same purposes, it was necessary to have twice as many rubles as now. According to Glazyev, no less than 50 billion dollars were cut. It’s impossible to deduce, keep the toad crushing without movement — privatization is the solution to the problem. Here, of course, the GDP put them a few obstacles, but will these rogues bypass them, like the May decrees of 2012?
    In general, something is ripening there. Who cares, here is the reference
    http://cont.ws/post/193011
  • Stinger
    Stinger 3 February 2016 22: 19
    +2
    Very simple. Return the stolen oil fields and pipelines to the state. And to give effective managers the collapsed enterprises and not give a penny from the budget so that they show how to work. Show the class how to establish a business not according to Chubais.
  • viktor561
    viktor561 3 February 2016 22: 30
    0
    Yes, Russia cannot be defeated - I read about Psaki so good reviews from Russians - Americans don’t understand
    1. Throw
      Throw 3 February 2016 22: 40
      0
      Hurry up, Nyrobsky, with such "iksperdnye recipes in pictures" tomorrow why fire Gref and shoot Putin ?! fool

      Do not post someone else's nonsense at the level of taxi drivers-economists ..
  • evgmiz
    evgmiz 3 February 2016 22: 35
    +4
    Quote: RUSS
    Quote: 4ekist
    And transplant embezzlers.

    Not enough judges and investigators.

    But someone should plant them too ...
    I am not at all an ardent admirer of VVP, but I myself was honored to hear the answer of one of the oligarchs to the remark "This is how Putin will say!" And the answer was: "This is how WE tell Putin!" So draw your conclusions. The economy of Russia, practically all, is in private hands and enterprises are registered abroad, the budget is 19 percent of the economy, the Central Bank does not obey the state, import laws according to the Constitution prevail over Russian ones ... Colony, and that's all!
    1. Weyland
      Weyland 3 February 2016 22: 53
      +3
      Quote: evgmiz
      But someone should plant them too ...


      And it depends on where! The main thing is that the seats for judges are properly made laughing! A small excursion into the history of Iran:
      When Shah Kambiz learned that Supreme Judge Sisamn was taking bribes, he ordered peel off his skin - and with this skin tighten the chair of the supreme judge. So that all the successors in this post literally bum feel what smells like corruption ...
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  • RUSS
    RUSS 3 February 2016 22: 36
    +1
    I apologize for the invasion off-topic, but I only heard about it, that another loss of a Russian soldier
    A Russian military adviser who died in Syria on February XNUMX was presented with a state award, the Russian Defense Ministry told Interfax on Wednesday.

    "The Russian military adviser in Syria was fulfilling the task of assisting the Syrian army in the development of new weapons supplied under the existing interstate military-technical cooperation contracts," the Russian Defense Ministry said.

    According to him, "on February 1, as a result of mortar shelling by ISIS terrorists of a military garrison, where one of the Syrian army units is stationed, the officer was mortally wounded."
    The soldier is presented to the state award posthumously.
  • Dock64
    Dock64 3 February 2016 22: 44
    0
    It's time to change horses at the crossing! It will not be worse.
  • vlad_vlad
    vlad_vlad 3 February 2016 22: 50
    +5
    Quote: Doc64
    It's time to change horses at the crossing! It will not be worse.


    horses at the crossing do not change - only donkeys.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 3 February 2016 23: 33
      -3
      No, let "Our rams" remain, the donkeys will be worse.
  • Pindermyak
    Pindermyak 3 February 2016 23: 01
    +3
    Oh, it's all complicated. For me, the phrase "create jobs" in the context of demanding this from a capitalist state is bullshit. And entrepreneurs (large, medium, small, individual) using hired labor, again for me, differ from speculators and swindlers only in terms of their profit in percentage terms, but by and large they are no different. There is no need to talk about taxes either. Everyone and everyone runs from them. If possible. So ... Again, I don't really care about the nationality of the owner of the means of production for whom I will have to work. In short, there was a Motherland (USSR), and now hell knows what.
  • Dikson
    Dikson 3 February 2016 23: 10
    +5
    And a barrel of oil in January then cost $ 19,2 ...)) So it's not really about oil, but about the forthcoming privatization, greed and lack of professionalism. Tell me, at least one forecast of the eternally greasy, beating and beating Mr. Ulyukaev came true? No one! When this person convicted by the authorities says "will not" - it means it will be exactly the opposite ..))
    1. lame
      lame 4 February 2016 09: 33
      0
      Quote: Dikson
      So the point is not really oil, but the emerging privatization, greed and lack of professionalism.

      It is in greed. Their money is in dollars, the ruble has collapsed, now they will buy in rubles what has not yet collapsed and is not finished to the end. And they have professionalism, only one that allows them to find more and more loopholes for robbery.
  • Stoler
    Stoler 3 February 2016 23: 37
    +1
    While in Russia, instead of work, the POWERFULS will suck xy (Sorry, oil and gas), so the common people in G will live. Even if this very "hu" will cost 1000 bucks! Since this is their "hu" and he has nothing to do with the people !!!! THIS IS THEIR COW AND THEY ARE MILKING IT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • vlad_vlad
    vlad_vlad 3 February 2016 23: 38
    +3
    Quote: Ami du peuple
    vlad


    On Wednesday, a fusion reactor with a hydrogen plasma such as a stellarator was launched in Germany. cost 1/20 of the winter Olympics in Sochi. This is an experimental reactor. Gazprom / Rosneft has terrible dreams - what if the reactor will give a surplus in a year, three or 5 years? then pipe to pipe :-)
    1. marlin1203
      marlin1203 4 February 2016 00: 23
      0
      What if he will crash in a year so that in Germany there will be no territory suitable for living? All the same, new, and even thermonuclear ...
  • zulus222
    zulus222 4 February 2016 00: 38
    +2
    How to survive at a low oil price ..... ANSWER !: NEED TO REDUCE THE PRICE FOR GASOLINE!)))
  • Erg
    Erg 4 February 2016 00: 42
    0
    Ugh, you are another hollow. Well shot back and okay. Not the first one. The article is a fat minus. It’s time to grow, and not to quote the newspapers here. negative
  • samarin1969
    samarin1969 4 February 2016 01: 25
    +2
    "In the meantime, it seems that we live by the principle: where the curve will take."

    ... this is not an "impression" but a reality.
    by the way, "the curve is lucky" for very good salaries and gesheft
  • Nikolay71
    Nikolay71 4 February 2016 04: 05
    +2
    As for the Primakov government, there was a feeling that they were working well. But they were greatly helped by the fallen ruble exchange rate. True, the ruble has also fallen, but for some reason the current government is doing little to help.
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  • Red_Hamer
    Red_Hamer 4 February 2016 04: 29
    +3
    In order not only to survive with a low oil price, but to live well, it is necessary to develop production. To develop production it is necessary (MINIMUM) to have a low price for oil and oil products within the state, as well as to have a low price for electricity. The "gentlemen" who now own the production and distribution of energy resources in Russia will never agree to lower prices! This mine was laid in the early 90s. The main conditions when the country's leadership begged for loans from the IMF was the privatization of the aforementioned industries.

    Now an example about our neighbor China. What is available in China is free energy, a large part of the country located in warm latitudes, absolutely free labor in large quantities.

    Where are we in speed? Draw conclusions citizens. And continue to listen to fairy tales about the price reduction and development of the country COMPETITIVE MARKET :))
    1. lame
      lame 4 February 2016 09: 30
      0
      Quote: Red_Hamer
      And continue to listen to fairy tales about the price reduction and development of the country COMPETITIVE MARKET :))

      And they listen and believe.
  • Vadim12
    Vadim12 4 February 2016 04: 31
    0
    The government does not think to move. They are all waiting for when, well, most likely ... these sanctions would be lifted. And everything will be as before, and nothing needs to be done.
  • Dmitry Potapov
    Dmitry Potapov 4 February 2016 05: 16
    0
    Quote: 4ekist
    And transplant embezzlers.

    You can’t plant, shoot. Plant, again, the creatures should be fed at their own expense.
  • Just BB
    Just BB 4 February 2016 05: 22
    0
    I am interested in the story with Switzerland - there is no oil, gas. Your money. Well, they are good watches (?), Unambiguously expensive, they do. And ... Suddenly ... - "give each of them more than 2000 euros" (converted)
    Doesn't the state need money? belay
    But what about the investment? lol
    1. lame
      lame 4 February 2016 09: 29
      0
      Quote: Just BB
      I am interested in the story with Switzerland - there is no oil, gas. Your money. Well, they are good watches (?), Unambiguously expensive, they do. And ... Suddenly ... - "give each of them more than 2000 euros" (converted)
      Doesn't the state need money?
      But what about the investment?

      And this is an investment. Investing in your own people.
  • astronom1973n
    astronom1973n 4 February 2016 06: 10
    0
    Quote: Ami du peuple
    Quote: Asadullah
    the weakening of the ruble in direct proportion to oil, this is the weapon of retaliation of the Russian leadership for trade military operations of the West.

    By the way. Crying about expensive gasoline is dedicated. And how much we received in 2000 in terms of the dollar equivalent, remember

    Then a comparison of monetary allowances can be given. As paid then and now. If, of course, remember.
  • Ros 56
    Ros 56 4 February 2016 06: 12
    0
    Just read, the Ministry of Finance proposes to increase gas prices. Righteous God, where these ministers of economists together with iPhones scored. Zadolbal already, with their stupid faces sitting in a box and wondering whether the price of oil will rise or not. Not a single sensible statement. Only stupidly raise prices. Leave the poor, if you don’t understand a damn thing in the economy.
  • Aspid 86
    Aspid 86 4 February 2016 06: 38
    0
    I did not understand the humor of how ruble deposits halved at a 100% appreciation of the dollar. What do they buy from us abroad? No need to cast a shadow on the wattle fence. Yes, we need to create jobs, I’m sure that there is a queue for those who want to do this. I think this requires the motivation of regional and municipal officials in the form of a magic pendell and a plan for the development of entrepreneurship with concrete results by a certain date.
    1. lame
      lame 4 February 2016 09: 28
      0
      Quote: Aspid 86
      What do they buy from us abroad?

      That is, prices have not risen anywhere? And what do we really produce from manufactured goods?
      1. Aspid 86
        Aspid 86 5 February 2016 09: 32
        0
        I reformulate. Ordinary average citizen once every five years buying office equipment, household appliances, a car - will they feel the dollar price increase? Not at all. The need of citizens for such manufactured goods everyday? Not at all. Do 80% of citizens have large ruble accounts? a rhetorical question. For the majority of the population receiving a salary in rubles and spending it in Russia in the vast majority of cases, food prices will noticeably increase except for food, but this is not the merit of the dollar. Consumer goods also did not particularly increase in price.
        Regarding manufactured goods, I advise you to read "Made by us" to be aware of what we produce smile
  • fa2998
    fa2998 4 February 2016 08: 31
    0
    Quote: RUSS
    Quote: 4ekist
    And transplant embezzlers.

    Not enough judges and investigators.

    In my opinion, some of the judges from the investigators to send there the same. That our investigation crumbles before reaching the court, then our "humane" court acquits the embezzlers! negative hi
  • Ilya77
    Ilya77 4 February 2016 08: 48
    -1
    Yes, after the First World War and the Civil War, the Soviet Union was built in 1 years, 20 years after the devastating Great Patriotic War it became a superpower, and our current rulers pray for oil like Papuans on a palm tree, giving bananas, shame, and scanty results for 10 years of rule ( Well, not counting someone's cottages, yachts, etc.).
    1. lame
      lame 4 February 2016 09: 26
      +1
      Quote: Ilya77
      and our current rulers pray for oil, like the Papuans on a palm tree, giving bananas, shame, for the 16 years of rule there are scanty results (well, apart from some cottages, yachts, etc.).

      And this is all "mnogohodovochka" and "HPP".
    2. 2news
      2news 4 February 2016 12: 22
      -1
      Quote: halt
      built in 20 years

      Those. the fact that a significant part of the population lived in barracks behind barbed wire, and an even larger part in barracks without barbed wire, you call the word "built up". But ...
      Quote: Ilya77
      10 years after the devastating Great Patriotic War went to superpower

      You can go out to the toilet to piss. And what does "become a superpower" mean? What is it like? What happened in the country? The people began to live a secured, calm and happy life? No? So what is this "superpower" all about? Is it in a nuclear bomb? Then I'll remember a couple more "superpowers". North. Korea and Pakistan are named. Very superpower countries.
      1. Ilya77
        Ilya77 5 February 2016 09: 05
        -1
        Are you a fool or pretending to be? Yes, the people lived a calm, happy life, calmer than in the United States for sure. If you don’t know what superpower is, learn the materiel.
        1. 2news
          2news 5 February 2016 11: 47
          -1
          Quote: Ilya77
          Yes, the people lived a calm happy life, calmer than in the USA

          I didn’t know such people. Unless those who were completely dumber.
          Quote: Ilya77
          If you don’t know what superpower is, learn the materiel.

          Those. you have nothing to answer. All "superpower" is reduced to a nuclear bomb. Why are you so in love with her? Have you tried it? What does it taste like?
          So now she has not gone anywhere. Why are you so upset?
          I'll tell you why. There is no "justice". That very well-known "soviet justice". So that everyone is equally poor. Then, babble. Then the scoop is happy. He is no worse than others. You can continue to go to work and do nothing there, while not turning into an obvious loser.
          HZ, is there something broken in the gene chain of such or something else? I do not know. But it seems to me useless to doctors, this is not treated.
          1. Ilya77
            Ilya77 6 February 2016 07: 31
            0
            It’s like you got attached to a nuclear bomb, it’s apparently useless to argue with you.
  • Stalnov I.P.
    Stalnov I.P. 4 February 2016 08: 50
    +1
    Citizens of RUSSIA, PEOPLE, do you think those who brought the country to such a crisis can bring it out of this crisis, NO, this has not happened in world history, especially since our "rotten eggs" of the government are an economic bloc in conjunction with two pipettes from the Central Bank of the whole their activities show a complete lack of professionalism, mediocrity, stupidity and simply criminal negligence. And TWO LAWYERS at the very top live in a world of illusions, there are NO anti-crisis projects like cut, cut, develop, build, plan, create such words in the lexicon of our powers that be. It is easier to talk about the shortcomings of FORMER leaders than to look at yourself.
    1. lame
      lame 4 February 2016 09: 25
      +1
      Quote: I.P. Stalnov.
      And TWO LAWYERS at the very top live in a world of illusions

      But does the former KGB specialist not live like that?
  • lame
    lame 4 February 2016 09: 24
    0
    Our so-called effective managers have been talking for 25 years about what they are doing right, how they are confidently keeping up with the West, which will help us.

    Not only effective managers, but also cheers putriots yelled that everything is good, that the Russian economy is developing.

    But everything, it turns out, rested on the high price of oil.

    The beginning, finally "reaching"?

    And when she collapsed, all the wonderful managers were blown away like balloons.

    But hurray putriots still do not deflate.