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Preliminary C-500 tests will begin this year.

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This year, the creation of prototypes of the new C-500 complex will be completed and their preliminary tests will begin. Before 2020, the complex should go to state tests, reports ВПК.name with reference to a member of the advisory council of the Military Industrial Council Viktor Murakhovsky.


Preliminary C-500 tests will begin this year.
The processed image, presumably, of the long-range mobile PNNUMX launcher (product 222Ц14) of the advanced Nudol anti-missile defense system developed by Concern Almaz-Antey Air Defense, published in the Almaz-Antey air defense corporation’s calendar on 033 year.


“This is a new generation complex that can work both by means of an air attack, and by intercontinental ballistic missiles and near space. It not only combines the best achievements of the previous complexes, but also provides completely new opportunities in the field of air defense, antimissile and anti-space defense ",
told Murakhovsky.

The Almaz-Antey Concern is developing C-500 with 2010. According to the company, “the technical task includes the possibility of self-interception of medium-range ballistic missiles, as well as intercontinental ballistic missiles at the middle and final trajectory sites, destruction of hypersonic cruise missiles and other air targets at speeds above 5 M, spacecraft. "

Help edition: “The basis of the C-500 detection system is a radar with an active phased antenna array, operating in the X-band, immune to stealth technology. The planned target detection range is 850 kilometers, destruction - 600 km. "

The rocket for the new complex was successfully tested in June 2014.
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  1. Mihalich17
    Mihalich17 2 February 2016 13: 43 New
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    Hrenassa, what a thing !!!)))
    Causes genuine Delight and Respect !!!
    "- And this one, well, this thing - is it ours, Russian?
    - Our son! That's enough for today, I'll show you the rest later ... ";)))
    1. Pravdarm
      Pravdarm 2 February 2016 13: 46 New
      29
      Krasava! I look forward to it! Only here for a long time somehow!
      By 2020, the complex should go to state tests
      It is clear, of course, that only flies will be born quickly! I wish the developers to do everything on time, without fuss, without failures! soldier
      1. Armored optimist
        Armored optimist 2 February 2016 14: 00 New
        +2
        And what kind of pipes on the sides of the containers? Thermostating? Is the rocket not ampouled? Who is literate, please explain.
        1. spravochnik
          spravochnik 2 February 2016 14: 28 New
          +8
          Quote: armored optimist
          And what kind of pipes on the sides of the containers? Thermostating? Is the rocket not ampouled? Who is literate, please explain.

          Missiles of modern air defense systems solid fuel. Ammunize only liquid rockets.
          1. scientist
            scientist 2 February 2016 15: 24 New
            +5
            Quote: armored optimist
            And what kind of pipes on the sides of the containers? Thermostating?

            This is probably the cooling system of the infrared aiming head. Obviously, at such speeds and heights, the most effective non-nuclear method is the kinetic defeat of ballistic targets. Plus, a new, unique method of guidance of missiles was applied, which TK developers told us about 10 years ago. Very nice method! Range with the same energy is increased by 2 times at least.
            1. KVIRTU
              KVIRTU 4 February 2016 12: 58 New
              0
              On the S-300, the "pipe" was still placed in the TPK, while the dimensions of the S-500 do not allow this.
              A good open source on the topic of the S-300 family: http://bookini.ru/zenitnaya-raketnaya-sistema-s-300v-raketa-9m83-ustrojstvo-i-fu

              nktsionirovanie / 72 /
              Well, this does not apply to the guidance system, of course.
              Having blown for cooling TPK after start-up, guess what, in order to. safety is a ton of solid fuel in a rocket (and there is a powder gas generator that throws a rocket which), and the TPK itself is as light as possible - you see, met. rings, the rest is plastic.
        2. Inok10
          Inok10 2 February 2016 16: 02 New
          +5
          Quote: armored optimist
          And what kind of pipes on the sides of the containers? Thermostating? Is the rocket not ampouled? Who is literate, please explain.

          ... quote from the article ...
          According to the enterprise, “the technical task includes the possibility of independent interception of medium-range ballistic missiles, as well as intercontinental ballistic missiles in the middle and final sections of the trajectory, the destruction of hypersonic cruise missiles and other air targets at speeds above 5 Mspacecraft. "
          ... means that in order to hit these targets, the missiles should have a second superiority in speed ... well, it can only be obtained by scramjet engine (the fuel is liquefied hydrogen and methane or special grades of hydrocarbon fuel, so that thermostating takes place) .. and what follows .. two-stage SAM, the first stage is a solid fuel accelerator or boosters and the second with the marching scramjet ... I’m more interested in another question .. GOS ... that I have big doubts that it will be an RLGS .. at such speeds the device flies in a cloud of plasma ... hi
          P.S. .. oops, purely accidentally dug up .. patent "Fuel for a hypersonic ramjet engine (RU 2541526)" based on Decilin (T-10), authors: Masyukov Maxim Vladimirovich (RU), Grek Maxim Olegovich (RU), owner Patent: Federal State Treasury Military Educational Institution of Higher Professional Education Military Academy of the Strategic Missile Forces named after Peter the Great of the RF Ministry of Defense (RU)
          http://www.findpatent.ru/patent/254/2541526.html ... любопытно .. wink
          1. Falcon
            Falcon 2 February 2016 16: 19 New
            +3
            Quote: Inok10
            ... means that in order to hit these targets, missiles should have 2 speed superiority ...


            And for what? belay
            THAAD missile has a speed of 2,5 km / s and knocks down targets at a speed of 5-7 km / s (having more than 2's multiple superiority over the speed of a rocket

            Quote: Inok10
            and what follows .. two-stage SAM, the first stage is a solid fuel accelerator or accelerators and the second is actually with a marching scramjet.


            For example, 9m82 for Antey 2500 has a maximum speed of 2500 m / s - without any scramjet.

            Quote: Inok10
            I am more interested in another question .. GOS ... something I have big doubts that it will be RLGS .. at such speeds the device flies in a cloud of plasma ...


            What does a cloud of plasma have to do with it? 9m82 has no problems with plasma and GOS.

            How then does the infrared seeker work with THAAD or sm-3?
            The answer is simple - a head fairing is created for this, which is dumped in outer space.
            1. Inok10
              Inok10 3 February 2016 00: 51 New
              +2
              Quote: Falcon
              And for what?
              THAAD missile has a speed of 2,5 km / s and knocks down targets at a speed of 5-7 km / s (having more than 2's multiple superiority over the speed of a rocket

              ... well, why so mislead Kamradov ... hi ... and so on ... we’ll sort of such a Wonderful Bird THAAD ... like the old Russian proverb: ... It was exactly on paper, but forgot about the ravines ... THAAD complex is designed to intercept warhead ballistic missiles of small and medium range ... I draw attention ... BALLISTIC ... that is, flying along a calculated ballistic trajectory ... this is the first oops ... further, the launch of the complex is inclined, well this is of course a matter of taste, but the shelling area narrows to 90 g. and it means that THAAD can only intercept targets in the frontal plane, you can already forget about the flanks, just don't mention the rear ... it's not the S-300/400 with 360 gr. shelling ... this is the second oops ... and pay attention to the method of interception - kinetic with infrared seeker ... range of 200 km. and at an altitude of 150 km. ... and here comes the fun part ... the minimum height for such interceptors will be somewhere around 50 km. rarefied layers of the atmosphere, previously impossible, the thermodynamic load of the h-th, GOS is simply to melt, the Karman line is 100 km. the border of space and atmosphere ... this is the third oops ... according to this, they came up with a cowl which, when it reaches this height, is reset ... allowing the GOS to carry out the task ... and having added all of the above, it can be said ... great, but mediocre .. God forbid:
              1. the target will be below 50 km.
              2. it will be difficult to maneuver in height and direction
              3. and have a speed of 5M and higher
              ... and I know this ... Iskander M ... laughing for Patriot too high (up to 25 km.), for THAAD and SM3 too low (minimum 50 km.) ...
              Quote: Falcon
              What does a cloud of plasma have to do with it? 9m82 has no problems with plasma and GOS.

              ... ah, what time is 9m82 at a given speed? ... I will tell you about 15 seconds, therefore there is no such problem ... well, here's an example with the X-51A mattress in 2010 vividly showed ... only 140 seconds. 5M flight and that’s all ... telemetry loss ... that’s what it was about ... hi
              1. Falcon
                Falcon 3 February 2016 09: 21 New
                -1
                Quote: Inok10
                the old Russian proverb: ... It was exactly on paper, but they forgot about the ravines ...


                Well, this is not serious! At the moment, THAAD is the most effective missile defense system in the world, despite the ravines, which you could not see where.

                The latest modifications of THAAD can be effectively used to destroy intercontinental BRs. The speed of the warheads from 6,5 to 7,5 km / s (rarely and not with the maximum possible number of warheads!). THAAD acts against a CU at speeds up to 7 km / s!

                Quote: Inok10
                BALLISTIC ... that is, flying along a calculated ballistic trajectory


                Which is what C-500 should do, as it is written in the article, to hit BALLISTIC missiles in the middle and final sections of the trajectory. That is space 50 + km. On everything else, 48n6 or 40н6 from c-300 / 400 will work (what is called the same eggs, only in profile)
                1. Bongo
                  Bongo 4 February 2016 11: 52 New
                  +4
                  Quote: Falcon
                  Well, this is not serious! At the moment, THAAD is the most effective missile defense system in the world, despite the ravines, which you could not see where.

                  Cyril, how can you write this, the site is "patriotic"? laughing
                  But seriously, it’s just amazing that Inok10 I haven’t scored you yet lol When he cannot clearly object, he usually does. negative He tried to prove to me that the S-300PS was in service with the Russian Federation for a long time. fool When he realized that it was not so easy to score in an emergency.
                  1. Falcon
                    Falcon 4 February 2016 14: 01 New
                    +2
                    Quote: Bongo
                    Cyril, how can you write this, the site is "patriotic"?


                    Greetings!
                    Yes, I am often off topic. laughing

                    Quote: Bongo
                    But seriously, it’s simply amazing that Inok10 didn’t score you yet in emergency situations. When he cannot clearly object, it usually does. He tried to prove to me that the S-300PS has been in service with the Russian Federation for a long time. When he realized that it was not so easy to score in an emergency.


                    And what is also a method of combating dissent laughing
                    1. Bongo
                      Bongo 4 February 2016 14: 08 New
                      +3
                      Quote: Falcon
                      Yes, I am often off topic.

                      It doesn’t matter to the crackers, the main thing is that the slogans should sound louder laughing
                      Quote: Falcon
                      And what is also a method of combating dissent

                      Especially when own competence is not enough laughing
              2. Falcon
                Falcon 3 February 2016 09: 23 New
                -3
                Quote: Inok10
                Further, the launch complex is inclined, well, this is a matter of course of taste, but narrows the shelling zone to 90 gr. and means that THAAD can intercept targets only in the frontal plane, you can already forget about the flanks, just not mention the rear


                PF! Not at all! The THAAD missile can be integrated into the security service of Berkov as soon as possible, if necessary, the manufacturer has long stated.

                OVT in a rocket is something that allows it to be launched in any direction, it also does some small bows, for spending excess fuel. And so on 20-30 degrees to the side to deflect, it's like two fingers.

                Quote: Inok10
                and pay attention to the method of interception-Kinetic with IR GOS ... range 200 km. and at an altitude of 150 km. ... and here comes the most interesting ... the minimum height for such interceptors will be somewhere in the 50 km region. thin layers of the atmosphere, previously impossible, thermodynamic load hoo, gos


                Do you have the best proposal for transatmospheric interception ?! YABCH like in the USSR? The meaning of such a missile defense - one hell, everything is in radiation, and the usual OFBCH in space does not work, and even more against the "armored" warhead - this is as you wrote "... great, but mediocre .. God forbid:"
                in height, this is the middle and final part of the trajectory, for the rest there are Patriots. And we have C-400 with 48n6 or better yet C-300 to 4 with 9м82.

                Quote: Inok10
                1. the target will be below 50 km.
                2. it will be difficult to maneuver in height and direction
                3. and have a speed of 5M and higher
                ... and I know this ... Iskander M ... for Patriot too high (to 25 km.), for THAAD and SM3 too low (minimum 50 km.) ...


                I think you are now deliberately embellished facts

                1. If below 50 - then it is not high, for Patriot! Who will knock her on the march !? Br Iskander shot down in the final section of the fall - and the Patriot will cope with it perfectly

                2. When our BR is difficult to maneuver belay ? Have you not forgotten that the combat maneuvering unit is just being tested and its development has encountered a lot of difficulties? Remind me what speed there is and how you can maneuver in such a rarefied atmosphere? At the moment, the warheads of the BR have just a few LPREs - capable of producing a "pair" of pulses. But even a couple of impulses can be produced by the THAAD rocket engine and the Patriot pac-3 solid propellant rocket motor!

                3. Iskander has speed on 2,5, and no 5! And even PAC-3 is not needed for its creation, such goals have long been brought down by simpler systems, for example, PAC-2 or Arrow - and this is independent of our propaganda. To the west, Iskander is no worse than a single flying Su-34 (well, maybe a little bit)
              3. Falcon
                Falcon 3 February 2016 09: 31 New
                +1
                Quote: Inok10
                ... what time is the 9m82 at this speed? ... I will tell 15 seconds, so there is no such problem


                And why develop such a speed for a long time?

                If you shoot down the BR on the trajectory - this is in any case higher than 50 km - there will be no heating there.

                The C-500 radar should see everything on 600 km (as opposed to your much-less-loved, but much more powerful, THAAD radar) And where to fly in the atmosphere on a hypersound frame rocket? For this, there is 40n6 to 400 km - nothing else can be thought of, everything else for space.
          2. scientist
            scientist 2 February 2016 16: 28 New
            +4
            Quote: Inok10
            2nd speed superiority

            If the attack is carried out in a dagon in the rear hemisphere, then of course. I think it’s clear that this is impossible at such speeds. Therefore, the missile is launched along a special trajectory to the meeting point with a slight lead, and there they already steer the shunting engines of the seeker.
            1. Inok10
              Inok10 3 February 2016 01: 01 New
              +2
              Quote: scientist
              Therefore, the missile is launched along a special trajectory to the meeting point with a slight lead, and there they already steer the shunting engines of the seeker.

              ... only if the target flies without maneuvering in height and direction ... already answered higher .. X-90 remember, it’s GELA .. from 7 to 22 km. in height at a speed of 3,5-5M ... a plasma cloud arising around the GEL allows the device to move in the atmosphere of the Earth at a speed of 4-5 km / s, while moving not according to the laws of aerodynamics or ballistic trajectory - but literally along “broken” trajectories. hi
              1. scientist
                scientist 5 February 2016 05: 46 New
                0
                Quote: Inok10
                literally along "broken" trajectories.

                Do you think that an anti-missile missile is flying along a smooth trajectory? While practicing guidance errors, you also need to see who has a more "broken" trajectory. All this is probably being worked out on models, then on landfills.
          3. Vadim237
            Vadim237 2 February 2016 18: 35 New
            +3
            We have a 53T6 Gazel missile in service with Moscow's missile defense system, its maximum speed of 5 kilometers per second - Mach 15,5 - this missile was developed in the mid-80s.
            1. Vadim237
              Vadim237 2 February 2016 19: 26 New
              +1
              I apologize - at the beginning of the 70s, in 1976, the product 5Y26, also 53T6, is an improved version, it was the first to carry out the airborne reconnaissance anti-aircraft missile system for atmospheric interception, the fairing was changed for 5Y26 and the first accelerating stage was reduced.
        3. gjkrjdybr50
          gjkrjdybr50 2 February 2016 18: 59 New
          0
          System for maintaining the temperature and humidity conditions.
      2. GSH-18
        GSH-18 2 February 2016 14: 00 New
        +3
        Fine! Good luck to designers and engineers! Do it right. We have a big country, we will need a lot of such complexes. good
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    3. mQn
      mQn 2 February 2016 13: 47 New
      +6
      Yes, this is a sketch, it will look different.
      1. tol100v
        tol100v 2 February 2016 14: 03 New
        14
        Quote: mQn
        Yes, this is a sketch, it will look different.

        Yes, and let it look as you like, as long as it meets the specifications laid down by TTX! Call a pot, but that would bring down!
    4. Kostyar
      Kostyar 2 February 2016 13: 48 New
      +5
      Well done, guys! This is just a masterpiece !!!
      Oh, I’d rather be in operation, time does not endure !!!
    5. Vladimirets
      Vladimirets 2 February 2016 13: 50 New
      +4
      Quote: Mihalich17
      Hrenassa, what a thing !!!)))

      The size is already approaching the mobile poplar. belay
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    6. opus
      opus 2 February 2016 14: 07 New
      +8
      Quote: Mihalich17
      Hrenassa, what a thing !!!)))

      where is that thing?

      Image from new year calendar air defense concern "Almaz-Antey" for 2015

      (in the annual report for 2013, the Almaz-Antey design bureau for special mechanical engineering reported that on the Nudol theme it received the MZKT chassis for the P222 installation and "ensured the production of the installation equipment in the agreed volume").
      there is also a mention in

      100% sure - a real product that is not placed in "work" in calendars ...


      Quote: Author
      and begin their preliminary tests.


      2015 November 18 - according to Western data held first successful test launch of the Nudol missile complex.
      This was the third missile test.
      1. Yuyuka
        Yuyuka 2 February 2016 14: 33 New
        +2
        2015 November 18 - according to Western data, the first successful test launch of the Nudol missile complex took place.
        This was the third missile test.


        The name is not very good ... Can you announce a competition for the best name? There were "floral" (Chrysanthemum), "fabulous" (Buratino). Maybe it's time to come up with some medical thread, and the "partners" will understand what to do.

        I am submitting the first proposal for the name of the complex - "LACER" repeat
        1. kizhe
          kizhe 2 February 2016 15: 05 New
          +1
          am And you can "CORK"
          1. AUL
            AUL 2 February 2016 17: 09 New
            +4
            But what does Nudol not like? Beautiful river, I caught bream there. Here you can get a good bream from this Nudoli!
        2. opus
          opus 2 February 2016 17: 17 New
          +1
          Quote: Yuyuka
          I am submitting the first proposal for the name of the complex - "LACER"

          snowstorm?
          or phenolphthalein?
        3. midivan
          midivan 2 February 2016 17: 20 New
          +3
          from the proverb - wedge a wedge laughing
  2. Primus pilus
    Primus pilus 2 February 2016 13: 43 New
    +6
    The main thing is to keep the deadlines! For the matter is crucial.
    1. Same lech
      Same lech 2 February 2016 13: 49 New
      +6
      The main thing is to keep deadlines!

      In 2017, they intend to supply the Russian Air Force T-50 ...
      and if, in addition to this, it is possible to equip our S-500 air defense systems for the foreseeable future, then you can be absolutely sure of the ability of our air forces and air defense to withstand the massive raid of NATO and US aircraft on our cities.
      1. AlexTires
        AlexTires 2 February 2016 13: 59 New
        +3
        Quote: The same LYOKHA
        resist the massive raid of NATO and US aircraft on our cities

        the United States is armed with several thousand cruise missiles, do you think they will start with massive air raids?
        1. Same lech
          Same lech 2 February 2016 14: 05 New
          11
          Do you think they will start with massive air raids?


          Of course not...
          all phases of the alleged air attack on our country can be seen by lifting the old chronicle of the bombing and rocket attacks of Yugoslavia and Iraq ...
          In addition, secretive raids by NATO aviation to key facilities where missiles cannot destroy them are possible ... so I think it will be a multi-layered attack from the air.

          By and large, nothing new will happen in an attack on us ... historically, it will be suddenly, with great forces and at a convenient moment for the enemy ....
          smile unless of course we ourselves create such conditions for the enemy.
        2. Sura
          Sura 2 February 2016 14: 16 New
          +4
          the United States is armed with several thousand cruise missiles, do you think they will start with massive air raids?

          They are not immediately launched at once, the starter, having started to let him become a target, and how much will he have time to release? ... (ax 2500km range). More than 50 MIG-31s, already re-equipped for strikes on land and water.
          X-101 5500 km range, multiplied by the entire strategic and long-range aircraft in service, what will be the general salvo without entering the country's air defense? ...
        3. aleks 62 next
          aleks 62 next 2 February 2016 15: 36 New
          +4
          ..... the United States is armed with several thousand cruise missiles, ...

          ... Well, you scared my friend - "several thousand" .... "Tomogavkov" in the ranks of about 5000 thousand ... Which in general is a lot .... But this is not a few tens of thousands ... For comparison, Russia and Ukraine brought only about 1500 pieces ..... I think there was parity ... lol
          1. opus
            opus 2 February 2016 23: 42 New
            +1
            Quote: aleks 62 next
            ... Well, you scared my friend - "several thousand" .... "Tomogavks" in the ranks of about 5000 thousand ..

            NO
            Reiteon supplied Navy to 2013 USA 3000th KR Tomahawk Block 4

            since 2007, 440 missiles have been shipped annually (+ 400 + 440 to 3000, but they’ll shoot and write off)

            Since its adoption in combat operations have been more than 2000 Tomahawk missiles were used.
            NO 5000pcs.
            Old deducted by time


            U.S. Navy can be installed at the same time(on carriers): from 4286 to 7254 KR Tomogavk.
            cash ammunition can be installed - 2 different things
        4. 1774
          1774 3 February 2016 22: 00 New
          0
          Let’s speculate. A few thousand cruise missiles are certainly a formidable force, but to use them it is necessary to bring the carriers to the lines of launch and launch simultaneously. I don’t think our intelligence will miss this business. And that would destroy all of Russia's military and defense potential even 5000 KR is a drop in the ocean, not even one per city. An elementary cruise missile can destroy an airfield for only a few hours, and such an object as a naval naval base needs KR, even if we planned to use 2-3 naval air-launched missile systems on the NATO naval base X 55 with a nuclear warhead (I know what I'm talking about). I think at the moment of launching their missiles our missiles will also fly, and they will no longer have an air raid. So that the banal truths are comprehensive reconnaissance and strengthening of deeply layered air defense missile defense.
  3. Great-grandfather of Zeus
    Great-grandfather of Zeus 2 February 2016 13: 45 New
    10
    They say that the Chinese delegation on foot directly through the forests and swamps with their copiers in their hands and shouting "hotsyu", "hotsyu", "hotsyu" -lamonula to Moscow.
  4. oborzevatel
    oborzevatel 2 February 2016 13: 46 New
    +1
    The processed image, presumably, of the long-range mobile PNNUMX launcher (product 222Ц14) of the advanced Nudol anti-missile defense system developed by Concern Almaz-Antey Air Defense, published in the Almaz-Antey air defense corporation’s calendar on 033 year.

    Guys, how much can you post this photo already?
    Wangyu, now the discussion will begin again, to put it mildly, about its credibility ...
    1. Armored optimist
      Armored optimist 2 February 2016 14: 03 New
      +5
      The main thing is to separate your own, then the American and Chinese intelligence will definitely not figure it out. laughing
  5. rov81
    rov81 2 February 2016 13: 48 New
    +5
    We are waiting, we will not wait. Great news!!! This will be our missile defense!)
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 2 February 2016 15: 30 New
      +1
      All C 500 divisions will be deployed in the Moscow and nearby regions, as an addition to the new A 235 missile defense system.
  6. VNP1958PVN
    VNP1958PVN 2 February 2016 13: 48 New
    +6
    The State Department ought to prepare new sedatives, otherwise they will start jumping out of the windows shouting "Russians are coming"!
  7. Salavatsky Ministry of Emergency Situations
    Salavatsky Ministry of Emergency Situations 2 February 2016 13: 48 New
    +8
    Adoption of the C-500 into service with the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation is scheduled for 2016, Rogozin said.
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    2. atalef
      atalef 2 February 2016 14: 25 New
      +8
      Quote: Salavatsky Ministry of Emergency Situations
      Adoption of the C-500 into service with the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation is scheduled for 2016, Rogozin said.

      Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Rogozin, who proposed in April 2012 to “give a tooth” if Vostochny Cosmodrome was not built by 2015, responded to publications about his unfulfilled promise. “Why do you toothless liberals need someone else's healthy tooth?”

      So all promises of teeth are not enough. wassat
    3. Wiruz
      Wiruz 2 February 2016 15: 11 New
      +3
      Adoption of the C-500 into service with the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation is scheduled for 2016, Rogozin said.

      Do you still believe this sweet tooth? In vain, in vain.
    4. shans2
      shans2 3 February 2016 21: 01 New
      0
      and they will accept and will do it, for suckers abroad everything is always unexpected, if they say they will, it’s already standing, for the Strategic Missile Forces and the air defense it always has been, these are not ships.
  8. mpzss
    mpzss 2 February 2016 13: 48 New
    +4
    let them test, but I hope the tests will pass faster!
  9. Conscience
    Conscience 2 February 2016 13: 53 New
    +2
    Moore what a good news - in the Pentagon, too, like ... belay
    sorry psaki no - if only a comedy would have happened. recourse
    for air defense drinks
  10. 31rus
    31rus 2 February 2016 13: 54 New
    +6
    God grant that everything goes as it should. Good luck.
  11. Wiruz
    Wiruz 2 February 2016 13: 59 New
    0
    Well, again, everyone is happy with everything. But nothing that he was supposed to be adopted in 2016? hi
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 2 February 2016 14: 16 New
      +2
      The developers saw problems.
      1. Wiruz
        Wiruz 2 February 2016 14: 22 New
        -1
        The developers saw problems.

        And what? You are not embarrassed that we ALWAYS and EVERYTHING are shifting the deadlines? And you can always find an excuse
        1. spravochnik
          spravochnik 2 February 2016 14: 33 New
          +4
          And what, only in Russia? Other countries have the same story. F-35 is an example.
          1. Homo
            Homo 2 February 2016 15: 04 New
            +3
            Quote: spravochnik
            And what, only in Russia? Other countries have the same story. F-35 is an example.

            With the F-35, soon the deadlines will not be shifted, but the project will be completely retracted.
            1. Vadim237
              Vadim237 2 February 2016 15: 26 New
              +2
              CF 35 will not be pushing anything, they have already decided, despite the problems, to produce 500 aircraft.
        2. Vadim237
          Vadim237 2 February 2016 15: 28 New
          0
          And then I was hoping From 500, at the May XNUMXth parade to see.
  12. andrey6060
    andrey6060 2 February 2016 14: 00 New
    0
    “Russia has only two allies: the army and the navy.”
    ―Alexander III
    1. ASUR
      ASUR 2 February 2016 14: 40 New
      +4
      Three allies:
      Army
      Fleet
      VCS
      laughing
      1. ALEA IACTA EST
        ALEA IACTA EST 2 February 2016 15: 12 New
        +3
        Undeservedly forgotten the Strategic Missile Forces ...
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  13. kostyan77708
    kostyan77708 2 February 2016 14: 00 New
    +2
    Looking at the picture, there is a feeling that the missiles will not be much smaller than the missiles themselves) Or they want to make the S-500 a unified platform for launching interceptor missiles and for medium-range missiles with special ground-to-ground warheads
    1. 787nkx
      787nkx 2 February 2016 14: 54 New
      +3
      Missiles will be different, each for its own task.
      Partially already implemented in existing air defense systems.
    2. vadimtt
      vadimtt 2 February 2016 15: 02 New
      +2
      And what do you want - energy is the same practically. The warhead is lighter than the ballistic warhead, but the speed is needed more, that's all and it translates into the amount of necessary fuel.
      Unless they will switch to fluorine-hydrogen - but this is the edge of technology, chemistry is powerless further.
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 2 February 2016 15: 34 New
        +2
        But chemistry is by no means powerless - with reactive gunpowders, the energy chapel is still very far away.
      2. 787nkx
        787nkx 2 February 2016 15: 57 New
        +2
        There are two operational and scientific approaches.

        With an operational approach, they tell you: here's a piece of iron, it flies 100 km and destroys such and such objects. And you successfully shoot at the fact that no further than 100 km. It doesn’t even occur to you to shoot a greater distance.

        With a scientific approach, they tell you: here’s a piece of iron that flies 100 km, you need to file something there so that it flies 200 km. The option to add gunpowder will not work. And you begin to work on improving the finished product to new characteristics. Updated the firmware, tinted it with a nano-particle color, changed the encryption in the name and o-miracle flew 200km on the same powder charge.
  14. Michael67
    Michael67 2 February 2016 14: 03 New
    +1
    I join everyone. Great news. Accelerate ... Without loss of quality.
  15. George 275
    George 275 2 February 2016 14: 04 New
    +2
    God grant that not what sanctions and crisis do not affect the development and rearmament of the army
  16. Mikhail Krapivin
    Mikhail Krapivin 2 February 2016 14: 06 New
    0
    And who is this insurgent who put a minus ?!
    1. oborzevatel
      oborzevatel 2 February 2016 14: 26 New
      +1
      Quote: Mikhail Krapivin
      And who is this insurgent who put a minus ?!

      They say that the Chinese delegation on foot directly through forests and swamps with their copiers in their hands and shouting "hotsyu", "hotsyu", "hotsyu" -lamonula to Moscow

      Cons put Chinese comrades.
      They have already forwarded this information and the photo, and even "filed up" a full-scale copy.
      And then seduced by the information, Xeroxes dragged themselves through forests, swamps and fields ... and for nothing.
      Here and spit.
      lol
  17. Taygerus
    Taygerus 2 February 2016 14: 08 New
    +2
    developers well done, success on the state. trials
    1. Wiruz
      Wiruz 2 February 2016 15: 09 New
      0
      Developers generally well done! The deadlines were postponed again, and no reprimand for them, no fine, no time! Well it must be able to! drinks
      1. User
        User 2 February 2016 17: 33 New
        +2
        In such matters, rush is a very dangerous business. In appearance and in terms of performance characteristics, the technique is very impressive, and you take a look at those. documentation of such complexes - there and you may faint. I take off my hat to the developers who create such works of military art.
        hi
  18. bad
    bad 2 February 2016 14: 16 New
    0
    Quote: Mikhail Krapivin
    And who is this insurgent who put a minus ?!
    .. Svidomo on duty .. you do not see them, but they are .. laughing like gophers .. laughing
  19. Barnaul, Altai
    Barnaul, Altai 2 February 2016 14: 33 New
    +3
    I wonder who put a minus article?
    Obama, come out! What nickname are you hiding under?
  20. TTX
    TTX 2 February 2016 14: 36 New
    +3
    Quote: kostyan77708
    with special warhead type ground-to-ground

    Or maybe the earth-space that we have against enemy satellites
  21. Vlad5307
    Vlad5307 2 February 2016 14: 37 New
    +2
    Quote: VNP1958PVN
    The State Department ought to prepare new sedatives, otherwise they will start jumping out of the windows shouting "Russians are coming"!

    No, they will bury themselves with shouts of "Russians are flying!" laughing
    But in general, such a system is needed no later than 2018, and pro-American liberal-defeatist structures are doing everything possible to frustrate plans to commission new equipment and weapons! sad
  22. Jurkovs
    Jurkovs 2 February 2016 14: 42 New
    +2
    and on intercontinental ballistic missiles and near space.

    Then it will rather be stationary, rather than mobile.
    1. Wiruz
      Wiruz 2 February 2016 15: 07 New
      +2
      Then it will rather be stationary, rather than mobile.

      Not necessarily. American mobile missile defense systems (both on chassis and under "sails") are a prime example of this. winked
  23. silver_roman
    silver_roman 2 February 2016 14: 52 New
    +3
    for 600 km it is unlikely to be a bullet. The new rocket seems to work at a maximum of 400 and then, for this, certain conditions are most likely needed.
    Likely with the S-500 it will be like with the PAK FA engines: they will put into operation the complex, and then they will modernize along the way and equip it.
    1. Wiruz
      Wiruz 2 February 2016 15: 05 New
      +4
      Why not? At 400 km, a 40n6 rocket fires, which seems to be already equipped with the S-400. But 77n6 may well fire up to 600. However, here the range is not as important as the interception height. If the rumors that 40n6 can work up to 185 km in height are correct, then good. And if not? We need an air defense system "working" in near space like air hi
      1. Muvka
        Muvka 2 February 2016 15: 15 New
        +2
        I think they don’t tell us much, for they are a military secret. Maybe 40n6 and 185 in height hits, and maybe all 300.
      2. silver_roman
        silver_roman 2 February 2016 18: 05 New
        0
        Just shooting at 600 km., It is necessary for the SAM to have a high speed or satellite correction, or for illumination ... in general, the time of hitting a target at such a distance is long. And the target will be as fast

        And I agree in height. RIM161 SM3 BEATS AT 250KM. It seems to be even confirmed in practice.

        Quote: Wiruz
        Although still here the range is not as important as the height of interception.

        as I understand it, are you talking about ballistic targets such as ICBMs with a maneuvering unit?
        In the A-135 system, the 51T6 missiles seem to work at even more serious heights.
        1. Altor86
          Altor86 2 February 2016 19: 56 New
          0
          A-135 has yet to take off
    2. _Alexei_
      _Alexei_ 2 February 2016 15: 06 New
      +1
      so at 400 already, it makes sense to accept
      1. Wiruz
        Wiruz 2 February 2016 15: 15 New
        +2
        so at 400 already, it makes sense to accept

        It is one thing to intercept aerodynamic targets at such a range, another is ballistic.
      2. Muvka
        Muvka 2 February 2016 15: 16 New
        +4
        S-400 is an air defense system. And the S-500 is a missile defense system.
        1. Wiruz
          Wiruz 2 February 2016 15: 27 New
          +2
          And the S-500 is a missile defense system.

          I would not be so categorical. If you believe the statements of specialists in the media, the S-500 will be a universal complex capable of shooting down everything that flies. It is not excluded that it, like the S-400, will be unified for "smaller caliber" missiles, such as the same 40n6, 48n6, 9m96xx, etc.
          1. Muvka
            Muvka 2 February 2016 15: 45 New
            +3
            I think his missiles will be somewhat expensive and redundant for aircraft. Of course this is my opinion. + sizes are also probably larger. I think the S-400 will be a little more mobile.
            1. silver_roman
              silver_roman 2 February 2016 18: 52 New
              +1
              air defense / missile defense systems have many types of missiles. I admit even placing several SAMs in one of the mines of the launcher. At S-400 there are 4. Their fantasy is not limited, there would be grandmas.
              1. Muvka
                Muvka 2 February 2016 19: 47 New
                +2
                Quote: silver_roman
                air defense / missile defense systems have many types of missiles. I admit even placing several SAMs in one of the mines of the launcher. At S-400 there are 4. Their fantasy is not limited, there would be grandmas.

                Sizes, cost, mobility. Not important?
  24. kizhe
    kizhe 2 February 2016 15: 09 New
    +2
    So you want it to be true.
    1. Wiruz
      Wiruz 2 February 2016 15: 23 New
      +3
      You know, given that the tests of missiles for the S-500 were already successfully carried out in 2014-2015, given that last year there was news of the fact that the factories were ready for mass production of these same missiles, plus given that the Chelyabinsk meteorite suddenly decided to self-destruct upon arrival, it can be assumed that The S-500 is ready and small-sized is in service. It’s just (fortunately) not advertised.

      As the saying goes: "If American scientists promise to build a combat laser, then they will build it. If our scientists promise to build a combat laser, then it is already entering the troops."
      I want to believe request
  25. andrey6060
    andrey6060 2 February 2016 15: 11 New
    +2
    Petr Arkadyevich Stolypin

    “An unsuccessful war for us necessitates large expenditures for the revival of our army and navy. No matter how great our desire for peace is, no matter how enormous the country's need for peace is, but if we want to maintain our military power, while protecting the very dignity of our homeland, we do not agree to the loss of our rightful place among the great powers, then we don’t have to give up the need for costs, to which we are obliged by the great past of Russia. ”
    ― Peter Arkadyevich Stolypin
  26. LÄRZ
    LÄRZ 2 February 2016 15: 17 New
    +4
    This means that not all of our "brains" have flowed abroad. They develop and make, their experience and design school are passed on to the next generation. It is gratifying! And who said that our economy was torn to pieces? AND?
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 2 February 2016 15: 38 New
      0
      And who said that our economy is torn to shreds? - It was said, almost, by the former US President Barack Husseinovich Oblamko.
  27. Alexandr2637
    Alexandr2637 2 February 2016 15: 51 New
    +2
    Great news!
    Only now, looking at the international situation, it breaks out of the language - oh, catch it!
  28. Dmitry Potapov
    Dmitry Potapov 2 February 2016 16: 39 New
    +2
    Quote: Muvka
    S-400 is an air defense system. And the S-500 is a missile defense system.

    It seems that the near space will definitely cover, it painfully TPK look solid
  29. antiexpert
    antiexpert 2 February 2016 20: 16 New
    0
    there is a proposal to nominate him for the Nobel Peace Prize!
  30. konvalval
    konvalval 2 February 2016 21: 51 New
    0
    From S-25 to S-500 in 60 years.
  31. red_october
    red_october 2 February 2016 22: 57 New
    +1
    Just in time for the 2020 year, when the C-500 begins to enter service, the Americans will finish their F-35 ...
  32. navalskii
    navalskii 3 February 2016 09: 45 New
    +1
    Hurry up
  33. Winter cherry
    Winter cherry 5 February 2016 10: 29 New
    0
    Something tells me, perhaps the subconscious that this thing is already working in test mode, of course. Who knew what about Caliber, no one saw them, but they were))) We love to surprise.