Greek Defense Ministry accused Turkey of another provocation

Yesterday, Turkish aircraft again violated the airspace of Greece. It happened during the laying of wreaths by the army command to the place of the death of Greek officers during the conflict around the island of Imia, reports RIA News report of the Minister of Defense of the country Panos Kammenos.

In 1996, a dispute broke out between Greece and Turkey over the territorial affiliation of 2's rocky, uninhabited Imia Islands in the Aegean Sea (Dodecanese Archipelago). Two countries (both members of NATO) were on the brink of war. The growth of the conflict was avoided after the intervention of NATO, the United States and the international community.

In the last days of the crisis, a Greek helicopter crashed around the disputed islands, killing an 3 officer. The official reason is a technical malfunction of the machine. Greeks annually honor the memory of the dead soldiers.

“Some are trying to challenge our sovereignty in the Aegean Sea. I want to say at this place of national memory that such plans will not pass. Even today, during the laying of a wreath in memory of the heroes, in 26 thousands of feet (approximately 8 kilometers) south of Imia, Turkish aircraft violated national airspace and were intercepted by the Greek Air Force "Said Kammenos.

“Everyone wants dialogue and peace, but no conversation can be accompanied by concessions and disputes on national issues and goals of political responsibility for the country's defense,” he said.

Comments

[alex-s]

Shoot down, not intercept!

[seti]

It’s possible to bring down the Greeks, but they know that NATO and the US will not stand up for them. Because they are silent. But there would be a strong army, navy, modern fighters and air defense would be placed on their opinion. And the Turks behaved more carefully. And so they constantly violate the Greek airspace.

[olegfbi]

Or maybe a technical problem? NATO standards, defendants of your own / alien ...?
Here Cypriots S-300, have long been bought and do not know grief!

Although, who knows ...

[donavi49]

The Greeks have very powerful air forces, comparable to the Turkish.

In particular, they have exclusive:
Block 52 + Advanced - in the 335 Tiger squadron, these are the newest X-NUMX in Europe today.
Total F-16 Block-50 / 52 they have 140 machines!
In addition, they have 44 Mirage-2000.
Phantoms with glass fly and a new radar in the modification of AUP - 30 machines.
There is 4 DRLO - Embraer.
Armament is a complete package of AMRAAM C7, C5, Saydy latest, MICS and Majik-2.

The Turks have 236 F-16, but there is half the 30 Block. The 50 / 52 block is about 100-110 machines.
And residually about 20 still manned Phantoms.

That is, it turns out +/- equally, the Greeks will even have an advantage in the air, for there are more new F-16 + comparable Mirages = 180 modern fighters, for 100-110 Turks modern and still 120 old F-16.


Now, if the Turks trample upon the liberation of Greece - then yes, the Greeks will end quickly, the ground army there is reduced to a minimum, along with exercises, procurement of equipment and more.

[Lelek]

Quote: seti

It’s possible to bring down the Greeks, but they know that NATO and the US will not stand up for them.

Greece itself is a member of NATO, so everything is not simple here. Armed conflict between two members of this organization can lead to its collapse. The Balkan countries included in the alliance are definitely on the side of Greece, and on the side of the Turks, perhaps, only the Albanians. Here is such an IMHO alignment.

[Aleksander]

Quote: Lelek

The Balkan countries included in the alliance are definitely on the side of Greece

History speaks of the opposite - the opportunity to jointly "break" Greece (or Bulgaria), the rest, together with Turkey, will do it.

[vagrant]

The Greeks can shoot down now. The strength of the Navy army, air defense and modern fighters have nothing to do with it. The Greek leadership does not have enough iron .. A country in which all the sovereign power holds its assets in countries bending down this country cannot adequately answer. They can smelle even now, but with .... that’s not according to the rules they should do it. But the hell is not a decree for the Turks. That's all, but nothing to do with equipping the army. Damn sometimes I regret that at special moments the team gives me no fly at the post and the president.

[Alex_Rarog]

Well, that's just it! The Greeks in the open already in the open said that they buy oil from the Isis ...

[jjj]

Quote: Alex_Rarog

The Greeks in the open already in the open said that they buy oil from the Isis ..

More importantly, Israel recognizes this.

[olegfbi]

But Turks do not fly over South Cyprus! There the S-300 is in service with the Cypriots !!!

[Castor]

Quote: alex-s

Need to shoot down

That's it, and then let the Turks, foaming at the mouth, prove that it is impossible to shoot down planes that violated the air borders and "received 10 warnings."

[Maksus]

It looks like probing the soil before pushing Greece out of NATA and the EU. Greece, apparently, was given the role of a sacrificial bull in front of migrants, they will make a huge camp on its territory.

[Uran]

the Turks knock down our sou, and the waters of Greece are supremely rotated.

[inkass_98]

Well, they intercepted, and then what? This is yet another "last Chinese warning" with no consequences.

[sl22277]

A plus. In addition to chatter and mutual claims, they do nothing. So .. "Dummy" about good and bad.

[Misha Honest]

Then maybe the Greek "partners" should leave NATO and the EU? And ask to join the EAEU, CSTO and SCO? But water does not flow under the lying stone ...

[Oldwiser]

Sooner or later they will be asked from the EU (or the entire EU will dissolve itself), but their mattress covers will not be released from NATO for anything - the economy is the economy, and the military structure to protect "US interests" is sacred and untouchable.

[driver]

Janissaries are completely overgrown. I think soon run into ...

[prabiz]

Buy S-400 from Russia and your sky will be clear!

[Misha Honest]

Quote: prabiz

Buy S-400 from Russia and your sky will be clear!

NATO country C-400 were going to sell, dear?

[Kolyan 2]

The Turks laid a bolt on them, and these current eroi write current. Pah already opposed.

[The black]

I agree. Everyone deserves the fate that he has. And the Greeks have no one to blame for this, except for themselves! ....

Shoot down, not intercept!

[Pancho]

Quote: Black

I agree. Everyone deserves the fate that he has.

So our plane was shot down and in your opinion we deserve it? Or do you have double standards?

[abrakadabre]

“Everyone wants dialogue and peace, but no conversation can be accompanied by concessions and disputes on national issues and the goals of political responsibility for the country's defense,” he said.

These words of a NATO member should be quoted every time when the Japs bleed about the Kuril Islands.

And then look for a quote book of all sorts of their own words about Senkaku and other garbage. In addition.

[Sergey Sitnikov]

How everything is confused there))) NATO has a natu, but NATO looks

[Siberian]

Greece and Turkey, two members of NATO, and even between the territories can not figure it out. And the Turks in addition to the Greeks provoke. What cohesion can there be between this military alliance?

[Castor]

Quote: Siberian

What unity can there be between this military alliance?

Only cohesion when executing host commands.

[Thunderbolt]

The meaning of the expression of concern? Compliance with the diplomatic protocol? The Turks sneezed at your concern from a height of 5000 meters and from low altitudes. How they want to fly in your sky --- from such a height and sneeze. This is a "bell". would be half-seizure of Kipra.Gretsiyu from "Schengen" want to throw out. If also from NATO, then war is assured.

[genisis]

Despite the pogroms of the Istanbul Greeks in September 1955, the people of Cyprus continued their struggle against the British occupiers and achieved independence five years later. At that time, Turkey was an obedient NATO-Zionist hyena who supported the aggression of Britain, France, the United States and Israel against the Arab countries, while the Greek Cypriots, along with the Soviet Union, on the contrary, supported the Palestinian people. To avoid the growing influence of the USSR in the Eastern Mediterranean and the possible annexation of Cyprus to the socialist bloc, in December 1963. the intelligence services of the United States, England and Turkey provoked a major outbreak of interethnic strife on the island. Thus, the first step was taken towards the division of the island and the preparation of the Turkish invasion of Cyprus. In March 1964. an international peacekeeping force arrived on the island. In October, during a visit to Moscow by a Cypriot government delegation, an agreement was reached "on practical measures to help the USSR help Cyprus to preserve its freedom and territorial unity." Due to the fact that the policy of the USSR was an obstacle to the implementation of plans to subordinate Cyprus to the interests of NATO, the American special services developed an ingenious plan according to which the Turks were to occupy part of the island, massacring and expelling Orthodox Greeks from there, but at the same time they would be "guilty" the Greeks themselves. In April 1967, a military coup took place in Greece, and with the support of the Americans, a military junta came to power. In the USSR, the seven-year period of rule of the "black colonels" was called nothing other than the "military-fascist dictatorship" or "anti-people regime". Washington, in turn, provoked the Greek junta by violent means to carry out "Enosis" - the reunification of Cyprus and Greece. July 15, 1974 The ultranationalist paramilitary organization EOKA-B, with the help of the Cyprus National Guard, staged a coup d'etat, removing the legally elected President of Cyprus, Archbishop Makarios, from power. This action led to the Turkish invasion. As an excuse, Turkish Prime Minister Bulent Ecevit said: "The current operation will restore the disturbed balance on the island. The Turkish armed forces heading for Cyprus are pursuing the goal not only to protect the Turks, but also to save the Greeks, whose freedom and personal security have been violated." , July 21, 1974]. However, evidence soon emerged that Bulent Ecevit was lying like a Turk. As a result of the first stage of Operation Attila, the Turks captured a bridgehead in the area of ​​the city of Kyrenia (Girne), expelling over twenty thousand Greeks from there.

[genisis]

The testimony of the Greek refugees was published on the front page of the English newspaper "The Sun" on August 5, 1974. under the characteristic heading "BARBARIANS". In particular, a Greek Cypriot (32 years old) testified: "Turkish soldiers cut off my father's arms and legs. Then they shot him while I was looking." That is, the Turkish soldiers were guided not at all by the directive of the Turkish prime minister "to save the Greeks, whose freedom and personal security have been violated," but by lines from the "holy" Koran: "Retribution for those who fight against Allah and His Messenger and are zealous to sow wickedness on earth, in the fact that they will be killed, or crucified, or their hands and feet will be cut off crosswise, or they will be expelled from the country "[Sura 5, ayah 33].
After the conclusion of the armistice agreements and the demarcation of the ceasefire lines, England, Denmark, Sweden and Finland sent 1.400 more people to the UN forces. The total strength of the UN forces as of 31 July was 3.484 soldiers and officers. They patrolled all parts of the island with the exception of the Turkish-occupied zone. In addition, more than 8.500 troops were stationed at two British bases in the south of the island. However, the presence of "Christian" troops on the island did not prevent the Turkish occupants from advancing to new positions west and south of Kyrenia on July 29-31, expelling another 20 thousand Greek Christians. Due to military defeats, the regime of "black colonels" in Greece first collapsed, and later the government of Cyprus, created by the coup d'etat, resigned. According to the Constitution of Cyprus, the chairman of the House of Representatives, Glafkos Clerides, became the acting head of state. It would seem that all the reasons for the occupation have disappeared. However, the Turkish troops remained on the island.

[LÄRZ]

MA-A-LADTS! One spits in the muzzle, and the other wipes off. That's right, you are on the same team, sworn partners! "Daddy" will separate you if anything, he will solve your questions and problems as needed. As it is necessary for him, "daddy".

[serkhan]

After joining the EU and NATO, Greece became frankly weak: no economy, no defense, no will. Well, the Greeks can only flash their eyes viciously ..

[gukoyan]

It is a pity that the Greeks are weak, and so they would have brought down a Turk and would not have steamed with these violations.

[rotmistr60]

Not the first and not the last time. It will be repeated until the Greeks really beat the Turk, which in the position of Greece could have been done yesterday. All the same, they don’t lose anything. And so they were put in pose by the Germans from the EU and the Turks and humiliate as they want.

[genisis]

On August 14, 1974, Turkish forces, entrenched in northern Cyprus, in defiance of the UN ceasefire decision, launched the second phase of Operation Attila. Two infantry divisions, supported by massive artillery, air and navy fire, broke through the Greek defenses and captured the cities of Famagusta (Magosa), Morphou and northern Nicosia. 160 thousand Greek Cypriots, fleeing the massacre, fled to the south of the island. During the three days of fighting, Turkish aggressors killed six and wounded thirty-two UN peacekeepers. But Turkey has never been convicted of this crime. The UN Security Council adopted only a toothless resolution, which "expressed deep regret that there were killed and wounded among the personnel of the United Nations Peacekeeping Forces in Cyprus." August 21, 1974 foreign journalists, together with the acting President of Cyprus Clerides, visited the refugee camps on the territory of British military bases. A hundred thousand refugees from Famagusta and Greek villages in the northeastern part of the island have accumulated here. The journalists looked at women with small children, who were housed on rocky soil in the open air. During the day they suffered from the scorching sun, and at night from the cold. Lack of tents, lack of drinking water and medical supplies were widespread. Reports of refugees and their testimonies of Turkish atrocities sparked even more outrage in the West. To distract the attention of the Western public from the real tragedy of Orthodox Greek Cypriots, the Turks invented a virtual "massacre of Turkish Cypriots" from the villages of Murataga (Marata), Sandallar (Santalaris) and Atlylar (Aloda).

[genisis]

In the period from August 20 to September 2, 1974. In the area of ​​Famagusta, which is under the complete control of Turkish troops, mysterious "mass graves" were discovered, which, according to Turkish propaganda, belonged to Turkish Cypriots from the villages of Murataga, Sandallar and Atlylar. All leading Western media outlets such as The Sun, The Times, The Guardian, United Press International, BBC and The New York Times have been choking on the Turkish version of events. Allegedly, members of EOKA-B attacked these villages on August 14-15, 1974, captured 126 Turkish peasants, shot them with machine guns and buried them with bulldozers to hide the traces of the crime. How this could happen under the noses of the UN peacekeepers patrolling this territory and in the conditions of a full-scale offensive by the Turkish army, the Western media did not report, but thanks to the promptly created and replicated myth of the "genocide of Turkish Cypriots", the tragedy of Orthodox Greeks was silenced and forgotten by the world community. When Western Turkish propaganda voiced its version of the "massacres in Muratag, Sandallar and Atlylar," the Greek side denied the accusations against them. The Cypriot government claimed that everything that happened was a provocation of the Turkish special services, and some of the bodies from the mass graves belonged to the Greek Cypriots. However, given the NATO occupation of Greece, she still had to accept the American-Turkish version of the "massacres in Muratag, Sandallar and Atlylar." The UN monthly chronicle, Volume 11 (1974) refers to this event as a "crime against humanity." This is how the virtual genocide of the Turkish Cypriots was recognized, while the real genocide of the Greek Cypriots, on the contrary, has never received an international legal assessment. In July-August 1974. The Turks captured almost 40% of the island's territory, which produced 70% of the national gross product, the main agricultural and livestock farms, fruit and citrus plantations, food processing enterprises, arable land and water sources were located, 60% of the mining was carried out. The loss of these lands and the influx of a huge number of refugees have put Cyprus on the brink of economic disaster. Nearly 200 thousand Greek Cypriots became refugees in their own country, 4.000 were killed and 1.619 were missing. Over a thousand Greek women of all ages have been raped, often in groups. 522 Orthodox churches in northern Cyprus were destroyed or turned into mosques, libraries, nightclubs, barracks, barns, chicken coops and even morgues. The Turks also burned over one hundred square kilometers of pine forests, causing enormous damage to the environment. However, this circumstance did not prevent the proclamation of the "Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus" in the devastated and occupied territories, which on November 15, 1991. was officially recognized by the virtually independent Azerbaijani state of Nakhichevan. That is, one genocidal state recognized another genocidal state.

[-Traveler-]

why did you save up here? if you really wanted to share, they gave the link and enough.

[Mikhail Krapivin]

But I read it with pleasure, thanks. Another item on the list: "why I hate Turkey."

[valentina-makanalina]

Who is stronger is right.
The Greeks still live with myths about the power of "their gods". Ancient Hellas was much more independent than today's Greece.
Better to have 300 SPARTANThan 300 DEPUTIES OF THE GREEK PARLIAMENT!
By the way, it’s not strange, but the number coincides - 300. That's just the quality is different.

[valentina-makanalina]

For minus - I did not understand ...

[-Traveler-]

for nonsense.
why suddenly the Greeks recorded in the Gentiles?
and read about the independence of the ancient Hellas - the Achaemenids there were protected, and Macedonia completely subjugated it.

[triglav]

The Greeks should not be indignant, but shoot down Turkish planes. Then the USA will not intercede for Turkey.

[red_october]

The Greeks would join the CSTO, not NATO - and all problems would disappear

[fa2998]

Quote: alex-s

Shoot down, not intercept!

No, well, sometimes even the "marshals" write nonsense writing! Greece and Turkey ALLIES, (both NATO members)! anti-aircraft gunners launch missiles, enchanting!

[Evil 55]

The S-300 should intercept, and not the boys in skirts flying on wood ...

[Mikhail Krapivin]

As for the little boys in skirts, it’s funny :) And what kind of shoes and pompons they have;) And they march amusingly. But the Turks are not impressive and they have violated, are violating and will continue to violate. Until the Greeks begin to land them as an adult.

[Orionvit]

Quote: Aleksander

Quote: Lelek

The Balkan countries included in the alliance are definitely on the side of Greece

History speaks of the opposite - the opportunity to jointly "break" Greece (or Bulgaria), the rest, together with Turkey, will do it.

The Greeks themselves will not do anything. They simply will be in the queue of those who want to break Turkey, and when it starts, they will not miss theirs. It should be noted that among the neighbors, Turkey has no friends, on the contrary, since the Ottoman Empire. the Turks so shit on everyone that if it starts on a large scale, they will tear to pieces. Here you and the Armenians, and the Bulgarians, and the Greeks, and the Kurds, and even the Serbs with the Magyars, I'm not talking about Russia. Everyone has their own accounts for Turkey.

[PKK]

All the people around Turkey are waiting for Turkey to explode from within, or at least weaken. Economic problems and most importantly the PKK are gnawing Turkey. Will it fall apart and when is this the question?

[red_october]

Quote: Orionvit

It should be noted that among the neighbors, Turkey has no friends, on the contrary, since the Ottoman Empire. the Turks so shit on everyone that if it starts on a large scale, they will tear to pieces.

Here it is necessary, apparently, that the Turkish F-16 first flew into the airspace of Syria (and did not fly out, thanks to C-400), and after half an hour - into the airspace of Greece. And a chain reaction will go: there is a possibility that thanks to the already Greek C-300, they will not fly either. The Greeks have double legitimacy.
Erdogan will have to explain to the whole world that he can fly into someone else's airspace, and the rest can not fly into Turkish.