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The Japanese are waiting for a "gesture of goodwill" from Russia

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As reported by TASS, the Japanese government considers Russia's position on the "northern territories" unacceptable. However, Tokyo will not protest because of the sensational "Kuril" statement by the head of the Russian Foreign Ministry Sergey Lavrov. Instead of protests, the Japanese intend to "pursue an adequate policy" in the matter of territorial dispute.




Recall that Japan has long claimed the Iturup Islands, Kunashir, Shikotan and the Habomai Archipelago belonging to the southern part of the Great Kuril Ridge. Hard on the "adequacy" of their intentions, the Japanese want to observe the following outcome of the resolution of the territorial "dispute": the Russians give them the islands, and then the discussion of a peace treaty begins. The position of Moscow today is unequivocal: the full sovereignty of the Russian Federation over the respective territories, enshrined in the outcome of the Second World War, is recognized.

On Tuesday this week, Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said that Moscow does not consider the conclusion of a peace treaty with Japan synonymous with resolving a territorial dispute, reports TASS.

“Yes, there is an agreement between the President of Russia and the Prime Minister of Japan that among those issues to be resolved the peace treaty issue must be present,” the agency quoted the minister as saying. - We do not believe that a peace treaty is a synonym for solving a territorial problem. This is a step that is necessary for the relations between the two countries to be normal, not only in substance, but also in terms of legal content. ”

Lavrov also recalled that “the only document that was signed and ratified by the two countries in 1956, the so-called declaration, very clearly puts the signing of a peace treaty in the first place. Regardless of how the islands will be finalized and can be reached. It says: a peace treaty, and then, perhaps, not a return, but a transfer by the Soviet Union as a gesture of goodwill from these two southern islands. ”

27 January correspondent TASS conveyed the statement of the Deputy Secretary General of the Japanese Cabinet of Ministers, Koichi Hagiuda, who spoke at a press conference. According to him, the Japanese government considers Moscow’s position unacceptable on the issue of the northern territories ’, but is not going to protest about the statements of the head of the Russian Foreign Ministry.

“We consider the position of the Russian side to be completely unacceptable,” the agency quotes him. “The position of the Japanese government on this issue is clearly expressed, and we do not think about taking any concrete action in connection with these statements.”

In addition, Hagiuda said that Japan intends to continue to "pursue an adequate policy" in the matter of territorial dispute.

The fact of S. Lavrov’s statement, as well as the reaction of the Japanese side to him, of course, does not mean that the parties will refuse to negotiate.

On Friday last week, the newspaper reminds "Sight"It became known that Russia and Japan agreed to hold talks at the level of deputy foreign ministers of the two countries in February in Tokyo. Earlier, on January 12, Russian Presidential Spokesman Dmitry Peskov said that the possibility of a Japanese Prime Minister’s visit to one of the Russian regions was discussed.

Despite the constant political friction over the “territorial dispute”, Russia is constantly seeking economic contacts with the Land of the Rising Sun. Including on the islands.

The same Lavrov at a press conference on Tuesday spoke on the topic of Japanese business.

“Japanese business is ahead of politics,” he was quoted as saying. RIA News". - And when some Japanese politicians say: if a peace treaty is concluded, and the so-called territorial problem is solved, then Japanese business will take powerful steps into the Russian economy, and if this does not happen, then business will be cautious, we do not feel that Japanese business cautious. Maybe somewhere they are trying to restrain him, I don't know. And, probably, much more can be done in terms of trade, economic and investment cooperation. But the business does not expect any political signals in the majority, it is actively working. And we welcome it. ”

“By the way, we have repeatedly and for a long time offered the Japanese government to support the idea of ​​a widespread Japanese business on these same islands, offered to create there a special additional regime, a free economic zone,” Lavrov added. “There are many options that would allow us to work together on these islands without waiting for a complete final settlement of the peace treaty problem.”

Analyzing the statements made by Lavrov, one can come to a single conclusion (the Japanese should have come to him): the Russian minister outlined a plausible scheme for the normalization of relations between Tokyo and Moscow. The scheme is extremely simple: the signing of a peace treaty is one thing, and resolving the issue with the Kurils is another. In addition, the minister called on Tokyo to cooperate economically with Russia on these very Kuriles. It is clear that from close cooperation to signing a contract is one legal step. Russia is not going to give the islands back: the very cooperation of Japan with Russia on the territory of the latter implies the de facto recognition of the Russian status of the islands. The Japanese come to Russian territory, and not vice versa.

To donate the islands that Japanese politicians dream of obtaining, Moscow does not imply in any way to the Land of the Rising Sun - quite a few statements were made at the highest level. In Tokyo, they have long understood the futility of any attempts to get the “northern territories”. The changing Japanese premieres, however, do not refuse to argue: to forget about the claims would mean to lower the rating and to cancel some of your own election promises (especially for the belligerent Shinzo Abe). The image of the government, which stopped the dispute with Moscow, would have been destroyed. In Japan, immediate elections would start immediately.

The “return” of the Southern Kuriles by Russia would look altogether ridiculous. It would be utter madness to give away important from a commercial and strategic point of view the islands. Their water area is rich in both fish and hydrocarbon resources. In a military-strategic sense, ownership of the islands means free access for Russia from its Far Eastern ports to the Pacific Ocean.

Finally, if one imagines that, for whatever reasons, the Kremlin suddenly gave up the Kurils to the Japanese, one must also imagine a “continuation of the banquet”. Many states will begin to recall various old treaties and the old political map of the world with its borders between countries. Peace-loving Germans, for example, might wish Kaliningrad (formerly Königsberg), and the issue of Crimea would be sharpened by the “world community” to the very limit.

Today, Russia offers special conditions for Japanese businessmen on the islands. Tokyo should agree. The Cabinet of Ministers of Japan would be able to earn on this, if not political, then economic point.

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  1. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 29 January 2016 06: 10
    17
    Figo with butter!
    1. sherp2015
      sherp2015 29 January 2016 07: 02
      22
      Quote: Mavrikiy
      Figo with butter!


      The Japanese are waiting for a "gesture of goodwill" from Russia


      Just make this "voluntary" gesture narrow-eyed and immediately there will be a queue of those who wish for a "pie"
      The gesture for all those who dream should be something like this: HORSE HORSE
      1. Minstrel
        Minstrel 29 January 2016 08: 12
        +2
        Quote: sherp2015
        Just make this "voluntary" gesture narrow-eyed

        Listening to the statements of the Russian leadership, something tells me that the Japanese did wait for this gesture. At the will of the owner of the gesture shown, he gently and non-intrusively points out to the Japanese a part of his body, to which, in case of disagreement with the Russian conditions for signing a peace treaty, they can go to resolve the issue of "disputed territories". wink
        1. NIKNN
          NIKNN 30 January 2016 14: 29
          +3
          The Japanese are waiting for a "gesture of goodwill" from Russia
          tongue
      2. 78bor1973
        78bor1973 29 January 2016 08: 14
        +2
        The main thing here is to make immodest offers and stand by to wait - either give, or send in three letters!
        1. umah
          umah 29 January 2016 09: 29
          +1
          The main thing here is to make immodest offers and stand by to wait - either give, or send in three letters!

          Hmm ... Just like in a joke about Lieutenant Rzhevsky:
          - Lieutenant! So you can get it in the face for it!
          - Yes, it does, but you can overdo it!
      3. Orionvit
        Orionvit 29 January 2016 20: 45
        +1
        “Maybe I’ll give you Bobruisk and the Central Russian upland,” Balaganov asked sarcastically. The meeting groaned. Ilf and Petrov. Golden calf.
    2. Misha Honest
      Misha Honest 29 January 2016 08: 24
      +3
      And it seems to me that it is worth conducting joint military exercises with China in the Kuril Islands and Kamchatka - this seems to me to be a rather rude, but effective signal for the Japanese. request You can also grab the Mongols for the company, given the historical relations of these countries.
    3. ILIA
      ILIA 29 January 2016 08: 49
      0
      Simplicity is worse than theft)
      1. Misha Honest
        Misha Honest 29 January 2016 10: 08
        +1
        Quote: ILIA
        Simplicity is worse than theft)

        All ingenious is simple. (c) wink
    4. bionik
      bionik 29 January 2016 09: 04
      +8
      Quote: Mavrikiy
      Figo with butter!

      From the novel by A. Stepanov "Port Arthur": ...- I will send in response to the Japanese a fig, copied from my hand, - he finished
      your speech.
      - How? What? - asked a few people in surprise.
      - I will send this very muzzle. “And the general held out the cookie ....” “The Japanese will hardly understand the gesture of your excellency,”
      Kondratenko. - Kukish means the Japanese is not at all what the Russians do.
      - What exactly?
      - So they have corrupt women invite men to her ....
      1. lysyj bob
        lysyj bob 29 January 2016 11: 12
        +1
        Zhirinovsky once spoke on this topic. Not quite literally: "Populate the Kuriles with Japanese, but let everyone take Russian citizenship."
    5. g1v2
      g1v2 29 January 2016 14: 47
      0
      They will not wait and they begin to understand this.
      Social and economic development of the Kuril Islands
      One of the longest-running projects was launched back in 1994 by the program “Socio-Economic Development of the Kuril Islands of the Sakhalin Region (1994-2005),” however, due to underfunding at that time, only 40 of the 153 planned measures were implemented, as a result of which many important problems of the islands have not been resolved. The amount of funding for this program was estimated in 2002 at 8,35 billion rubles in 2002 prices. A new development program for 2007-2015 is currently being implemented. worth 18 billion rubles in prices of the corresponding years.
      According to the results of the project, the Kuril Islands should become a fully inhabited and self-sufficient region, in particular, all major inhabited islands underwent a radical reconstruction or re-built port points, and a new airport will be commissioned on Iturup.
      In addition, until 2016, Russia intends to build up to 150 military camps on the South Kuril Islands.
      In 2015, a modern hospital worth 708 million rubles was opened in the framework of the project on the largest island of the Small Kuril Ridge Shikotan.
    6. larand
      larand 29 January 2016 17: 09
      0
      Quote: Mavrikiy
      Figo with butter!


      It is better to bend your arm at the elbow and protrude the middle finger.
      1. saturn.mmm
        saturn.mmm 29 January 2016 20: 19
        0
        Quote: larand
        It is better to bend your arm at the elbow and protrude the middle finger.

        It is better to populate the islands and build bases there, the question of the northern territories will disappear by itself.
    7. _my opinion
      _my opinion 29 January 2016 17: 44
      0
      Quote: Mavrikiy
      Figo with butter!

      with oil - it will be bold smile
    8. Max_Bauder
      Max_Bauder 30 January 2016 15: 28
      0
      The Japanese are waiting for a "gesture of goodwill" from Russia


      laughing
  2. KOH
    KOH 29 January 2016 06: 12
    12
    So gestures of goodwill are already being built in the Kuril Islands, the deputy minister of defense hasn’t told on tv ...))))
  3. The black
    The black 29 January 2016 06: 13
    +4
    Instead of protests, the Japanese intend to “pursue an adequate policy” on the issue of territorial dispute.
    The most adequate thing that the Japanese can do is not to meddle in the internal affairs of Russia and forget about the "disputed" territories smile
    1. Mavrikiy
      Mavrikiy 29 January 2016 06: 22
      0
      But they can’t, sorry.
    2. Pig
      Pig 29 January 2016 08: 44
      0
      watched anime and manga ...
  4. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 29 January 2016 06: 21
    +8
    Samurai will not understand! This is the same fixed idea, thrown by a clever mattress, for many years, perhaps for centuries. It is not the first time that striped ears "make" Japanese people like children. And those are underway. As long as Russia is Russia, the southern Kuriles will be ours. Dot.
  5. Hubun
    Hubun 29 January 2016 06: 24
    +3
    The gesture will be unambiguous. Only hardly jumps like him
    1. inkass_98
      inkass_98 29 January 2016 07: 17
      19
      You need to start small, with understandable gestures laughing :
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 29 January 2016 07: 24
        +9
        Quote: inkass_98
        You need to start small, with understandable gestures

        This cafe needs to be opened in the Kuril Islands, so that the Prime Minister of Japan, examining the islands with binoculars, can see everything well laughing
        1. zadorin1974
          zadorin1974 29 January 2016 08: 41
          10
          There are better landscapes there
  6. Great-grandfather of Zeus
    Great-grandfather of Zeus 29 January 2016 06: 26
    +3
    Why should they bomb Tokyo? The United States dropped two atomic bombs on the Japs in the forty-fifth, and the United States ass licked their asses! Maybe after they bombed Tokyo they shut up?
  7. Uncle lee
    Uncle lee 29 January 2016 06: 36
    +5
    Put "Calibers" on the Kuril Islands and the question of the northern territories will disappear automatically.
    1. Uncle lee
      Uncle lee 29 January 2016 11: 04
      +4
      And whoever doesn't like "Caliber" - we will replace it with "Iskander-M"!
  8. volodimer
    volodimer 29 January 2016 06: 49
    16
    Our goodwill gesture was made in 1945, when they didn’t land in Hokkaido.
    1. aleksey980
      aleksey980 29 January 2016 20: 14
      +1
      Yes, an omission. Then the Sea of ​​Okhotsk would become inland already from 1945, and from 2014.
  9. with
    with 29 January 2016 07: 06
    12
    It is necessary to bring the truth to the Japanese comrades - Japan, an occupied country. After a hypothetical "gesture of goodwill", the Kuril Islands will immediately find the enemy military infrastructure of the occupying country, which directly threatens Russia. What gesture of goodwill can we talk about? Whose interests do Japanese politicians serve? Isn't it time for the clever Japanese to finally solve their problems with the 70-year de-occupation? As a gesture of goodwill, the USSR or Russia offered mutually beneficial cooperation. But, apparently, it is more profitable for the Japanese to save trejeris (to pay for the debts of the occupying country). Bravo, American diplomacy, brainwashing the descendants of the samurai for so many years!
    1. Cap.Morgan
      Cap.Morgan 29 January 2016 16: 27
      -4
      If Japan and Germany were not occupied, they would have long climbed to fight with us. So it’s even profitable for us that Uncle Sam looks after them.
      On the topic, japs ​​are late. Maybe in the 90s Yolkin the drunkard would give, but not now.
      These islands turn the sea into our inner bay, there are ice-free straits. And the role of Japan with the rise of China has fallen sharply.
      1. dali
        dali 29 January 2016 22: 58
        0
        Quote: Cap.Morgan
        If Japan and Germany were not occupied, they would have long climbed to fight with us. So it’s even profitable for us that Uncle Sam looks after them.


        If ... then:

        All of Germany would become the GDR. And Japan ... NUCLEUS or NAR.
        good drinks good
  10. Zomanus
    Zomanus 29 January 2016 07: 08
    +7
    Well, the Japanese have their own little thought about this.
    Maybe they hope to get us with their whining and we will give them the islands,
    what would they untie?
    But personally, I see this thing as follows.
    The Americans need their own base closer to us, in the grazing area of ​​our strategists.
    It goes without saying that they won’t climb the islands from us.
    But promise Yap a bunch of sweet nishtyakov
    for spinning and transferring the islands to them under the base, they may well.
    And yapy just quite formally legal grounds can whine and moan, begging for the island.
    What we are actually observing now.
  11. sergeyzzz
    sergeyzzz 29 January 2016 07: 13
    +3
    Something I did not understand, cross-eyed want a war? Or they think we really need their fake peace treaty. They must be washed off into the Mariana trench, so as not to pollute the Pacific Ocean with their presence. am
    1. Cap.Morgan
      Cap.Morgan 29 January 2016 16: 29
      0
      We don’t need a peace treaty at all.
      You can buy and sell without contracts. Their enemy, China, is growing and richer at its side. That's what they need to think about.
  12. Evgeniy667b
    Evgeniy667b 29 January 2016 07: 17
    -6
    Something very ornately spoke by our Foreign Ministry. We went from categorization to fogging. There is no faith in liberals in the Kremlin; you can expect anything from them.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 29 January 2016 07: 19
      +5
      Quote: Evgeniy667b
      Something very ornately spoke by our Foreign Ministry.

      Wrote a man flying the Romanian flag.
      Quote: Evgeniy667b
      . There is no faith in liberals in the Kremlin,

      And the man added, under the Romanian flag.

      PS SchA will say that he lives in Russia.
      1. Evgeniy667b
        Evgeniy667b 29 January 2016 07: 52
        -5
        Yes, just yesterday from Bucharest laughing We made a leapfrog with flags, get rid of horseradish. Do you need Alexander to know this !?
        But in fact there is a tendency to squander territories at the level of the proposals under consideration. With China, in particular. And the appetite comes with eating.
        1. Evgeniy667b
          Evgeniy667b 29 January 2016 17: 13
          +1
          According to the Declaration on the Sovereignty of the Russian Federation of June 12, 1990, any changes in the territory of the Russian Federation could not have occurred without the will of the people expressed by referendum. “What have we got? Received a change in the border is not in our favor, just presented their own. Got an influx of low-quality Chinese goods, a stream of Chinese who live here at home. With the weakening of the Russian Federation, the Chinese will bring all these treaties to light and will prove that the Aigun and Beijing treaties of the 200th century were unequal, since they were concluded during the period of the weakening of China. China was forced to yield. And then the question will be raised - get out. And when they will not be here already 20 thousand, but two million or XNUMX million,

          Given about 600 islands along the Amur and Ussuri rivers.
          On October 15, 2004, in Beijing, Putin signed the “Supplementary Agreement on the Russian-Chinese State Border on its Eastern Part”, which referred to the voluntary transfer to China of Tarabarov Island, part of the Bolshoi Ussuriysky Island in the Khabarovsk Territory and Bolshoi Island in the Chita Region. All these islands were of strategic importance to the state. A large fortified area and frontier post was stationed on Bolshoi Ussuriysky, and the trajectory of takeoffs of military aircraft of the 11th Air Force and Air Defense Army (now the 3rd Air Force and Air Defense Command) was deployed over Tarabarov, which is deployed in Khabarovsk. In addition, on these islands there were summer residences of Khabarovsk citizens, grasslands ... On Bolshoi Island, with an area of ​​70 sq. M. km, the frontier post was located and drinking water was withdrawn for part of the region. 337 sq km

          Putin and Medvedev presented Norway with a shelf in the Barents Sea. And further. Ratification of this treaty means a waiver of the rights that Russia has as a party to the Paris Treaty of Svalbard. We are talking about an area of ​​about 240 thousand square kilometers, which is four times the area of ​​our losses in the disputed area.
          It is not a sin to recall the concession to the United States, when Russia gave the Americans 46 thousand square kilometers of the Russian shelf. And along with them - oil wells, territorial waters, giving 200 thousand tons of pollock per year, while the Russian economic zone was reduced to 150 miles (while the American grew to 250 miles).
          The PRC claims under the Aigun and Beijing treaties of 1858/1860 correspond to 1 million square meters. km
          To date, all land negotiations are classified.
          Is this really not enough?
          1. Idiot
            Idiot 2 February 2016 14: 04
            +1
            What is Vladimir Putin related to the 1990 Declaration, what position did he hold then and where did he work? The islands in line with the Amur and Ussuri were transferred to the Chinese side at the initiative of our country, in accordance with applicable international legislation in the field of demarcation of state borders. In particular, when the border with China was drawn in the 19th century, it was drawn along the coast of China, and not in the middle of the rivers. Accordingly, all the islands that were closer to the Chinese side were transferred to China. And all the more, it is not clear what relation to the transfer of the USA 46000 m2 has V.V. Putin, if Gorbachev and Shevarnadze did it? I don’t know anything about the Norwegian shelf, but about secret negotiations with China, I suppose, they have kept secret from you so that you don’t talk nonsense.
          2. Idiot
            Idiot 2 February 2016 14: 04
            0
            What is Vladimir Putin related to the 1990 Declaration, what position did he hold then and where did he work? The islands in line with the Amur and Ussuri were transferred to the Chinese side at the initiative of our country, in accordance with applicable international legislation in the field of demarcation of state borders. In particular, when the border with China was drawn in the 19th century, it was drawn along the coast of China, and not in the middle of the rivers. Accordingly, all the islands that were closer to the Chinese side were transferred to China. And all the more, it is not clear what relation to the transfer of the USA 46000 m2 has V.V. Putin, if Gorbachev and Shevarnadze did it? I don’t know anything about the Norwegian shelf, but about secret negotiations with China, I suppose, they have kept secret from you so that you don’t talk nonsense.
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    2. Amurets
      Amurets 29 January 2016 07: 26
      +2
      Diplomats always spoke curiously and hinted. Didn’t you understand the hint, you’ll still get your hands on the tail of the business. And your business will win back on your policies and many politicians can put an end to their careers.
  13. V.ic
    V.ic 29 January 2016 07: 20
    10
    In the form of a "gesture of goodwill," let the American military bases be removed from their territory, thus proving that they really are the masters of the territories, and not their overseas "chiefs." It is out of place for us to talk to slaves!
  14. parusnik
    parusnik 29 January 2016 07: 22
    +8
    The Japanese are waiting for a "gesture of goodwill" from Russia

    I met a messenger on the way.
    North wind, harsh
    I didn’t send letters ...
    1. Reptiloid
      Reptiloid 29 January 2016 08: 53
      +1
      70 years after the defeat in World War II, they decided to blackmail Russia with their spells!
      Alexei! You, dear, know other good words that I read from you before. About the fact that the Japanese ate some vegetable. ??
      1. parusnik
        parusnik 29 January 2016 11: 35
        +2
        About the vegetable is not mine ... smile

        Sakura white color,
        Like Fujiyama snow, flew around
        From its top, the Kuril Islands are not visible
        It wrote ...
    2. AID.S
      AID.S 29 January 2016 09: 51
      +4
      There was no sorrow in the sake cup.
      Polite Lavrov and laconic ..
      1. the villain
        the villain 29 January 2016 12: 40
        +3
        Quote: AID.S
        No sorrows in a cup of sake

        Sake went over a samurai
        became a hand not hard
        Wasabi smeared in the face wassat
        1. AID.S
          AID.S 29 January 2016 18: 32
          +4
          Singing a song
          Hasabi changed
          Beautiful geisha
          Under the proud face of a samurai.
          1. Reptiloid
            Reptiloid 30 January 2016 16: 01
            0
            29.10.2015/XNUMX/XNUMX in the Military Archive there was a Japanese story and poems by one Author, which I remembered unnoticed by myself.
            Somehow now inspired:

            Wasabi in his pants smeared,
            Samurai soldier covered!

            Red radish disgusting,
            Kuchi Honshu fertilized.

            Although maybe someone will neglect for ridicule of the "beautiful" ...
            1. Reptiloid
              Reptiloid 31 January 2016 09: 16
              0
              Hiding the American flag
              They continue their fuss ...

              Not smart, stupid people ....
              They don’t remember, they don’t know ....

              Although, from the point of view of Japanese versification, the rules are not quite met, again --- hieroglyphs can not be counted.
  15. Fitter65
    Fitter65 29 January 2016 07: 25
    +1
    "The Japanese are expecting a" gesture of goodwill "from Russia" - is this a specific gesture? The middle finger up, or the arm bent at the elbow?
    1. geek2101
      geek2101 29 January 2016 07: 35
      +1
      The famous figure of three fingers - "fig".
      1. Amurets
        Amurets 29 January 2016 08: 33
        +2
        Quote: geek2101
        The famous figure of three fingers - "fig".

        For Japanese prostitutes, this gesture means I am looking for a client.
  16. Stas157
    Stas157 29 January 2016 07: 37
    +2
    The Japanese take a surprisingly two-faced position! Demanding for themselves the return of the Kuril Islands, they announce us sanctions for the return of the Crimea! It turns out, in the same issue, they occupy a multidirectional position. I wonder what they hope for?
    1. the villain
      the villain 29 January 2016 13: 03
      +4
      Quote: Stas157
      The Japanese take a surprisingly two-faced position! Demanding for themselves the return of the Kuril Islands, they announce us sanctions for the return of the Crimea! It turns out, in the same issue, they occupy a multidirectional position. I wonder what they hope for?

      Yes, whatever they hope wassat
  17. Mikhail m
    Mikhail m 29 January 2016 07: 37
    0
    By the way, we repeatedly and long ago offered the Japanese government to support the idea of ​​the widespread arrival of Japanese business in these very islands, we proposed creating some special additional regime there, a free economic zone, ”Lavrov added.

  18. olimpiada15
    olimpiada15 29 January 2016 07: 40
    +1
    Political debate is words.
    In general, the Japanese are not stupid people and should understand that they must forget about the islands, because for Russia they have strategic importance.
    Japan is a vassal of the United States, which, if desired, cannot expel American bases from its territory.
    The annexation of the islands will be followed by the deployment of American bases on them, and the intensification of confrontation with the states, which is not necessary for us or the world community.
    The Japanese should not forget about the atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki by the states and do not want this hell to repeat for themselves and such a fate to other nations.
    Therefore, the Japanese will not receive any islands, and must understand that the best solution.
    Such a decision contributes to the maintenance of peace in the region, which suits both the Russian Federation and Japan.
    1. glasha3032
      glasha3032 29 January 2016 23: 21
      0
      About "not stupid" Japanese - I regularly read articles from Japanese newspapers on INOSMI website - wild squalor and stupidity in the brains of Japanese politicians. For example, in all seriousness, the current surge in activity in the "northern territories" is caused by the thought that as a result of the sanctions and the rupture of the economy, Russia has weakened so much that it can no longer even resist and the moment has come when Japan can dictate any conditions to Russia. Such nonsense is presented with a serious air.
  19. kig
    kig 29 January 2016 07: 49
    0
    It is often said that if Japan takes possession of the southern islands of the Kuril ridge, it will close our access to the ocean. And if you look at the map. it immediately becomes clear that if something happens, it will be difficult for our fleet to leave the Sea of ​​Japan in the ocean, regardless of the islands' belonging. Exit routes from the Sea of ​​Japan are very limited. The Tatar Strait: with its minimum depth of 6 m, it is impassable for normal ships without preliminary preparation, and in winter time it is impassable at all, because icebreakers will not pass there either. Strait of La Perouse: 40 km wide with something, can be shot right through, and freezes in winter. The Sangar Strait: there is no need to go there, the Korean Straits, in principle, look good, but they do not lead quite into the ocean. So our surface fleet is already having a hard time in the Sea of ​​Japan, which is essentially closed. And the talk that "From a military-strategic point of view, the ownership of the islands means a free exit for Russia from its Far Eastern ports to the Pacific Ocean" is just another argument.
    1. kig
      kig 29 January 2016 16: 17
      +2
      I do not understand the meaning of the minus. Someone believes that our fleet needs to go to the ocean through the South Kuril Strait? Offer it to any naval officer, the result will be very interesting.
    2. Cap.Morgan
      Cap.Morgan 29 January 2016 17: 10
      +1
      But the japas will not stick to us. The islands reliably cover our coast.
  20. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 29 January 2016 07: 54
    +1
    This topic has been raised for the fourth time in the last two weeks, in my opinion. So much has been said, retold in relation to the Japanese, that I don’t want to repeat myself. stop
  21. Darth Revan
    Darth Revan 29 January 2016 07: 54
    0
    Goodwill gesture - http://s00.yaplakal.com/pics/pics_original/3/7/9/654973.jpg laughing hi repeat
  22. Ros 56
    Ros 56 29 January 2016 07: 55
    +4
    I read only the title of the article, I thought hello to them from Kravchuk.
  23. rusaiaiBishkek
    rusaiaiBishkek 29 January 2016 08: 11
    +1
    what is taken from the battle is holy.

    so nehpan japaneseam open a bread-pot. admit lost and stall.
  24. Blaster
    Blaster 29 January 2016 08: 14
    +1
    No need to flirt with the Japanese and close the question once and for all!
  25. McLuha-MacLeod
    McLuha-MacLeod 29 January 2016 08: 18
    +7
    Please gesture of goodwill
  26. cumastra1
    cumastra1 29 January 2016 08: 18
    +1
    Kemska volost Kemska volost .... such things can’t be solved from the kandachka, come back in a week .. And by the way, give my king my fiery greetings.
  27. veteran2015
    veteran2015 29 January 2016 08: 29
    +3
    Our goodwill gesture was made in 1945, when they didn’t land in Hokkaido.


    And in vain then Stalin "modest". It was necessary to take Hokkaido, and the agility of the Japanese would be moderated at times, living with Russia, very close.
  28. Volzhanin
    Volzhanin 29 January 2016 08: 31
    +1
    the conversation will continue only after Japan gained independence. In the current conditions, when, Japs, are essentially colonized by the Yankirmans, there’s nothing to talk about!
    They don’t understand such a simple message? It seems clearly voiced this moment ...
  29. ILIA
    ILIA 29 January 2016 08: 46
    +1
    A resident of the Kuril Islands said that once the Japanese question was pushed. The question remained what to do for the local residents living on the islands .... The Japanese said that they do not need the local residents ... The local residents refused to leave their homes .. Our people kind of shrugged and said that they could not hand over the islands.
    And think about transferring Kurl to the Pacific.
    It is absolutely impossible to do this.
    1. glasha3032
      glasha3032 29 January 2016 23: 29
      0
      If only the exit made it difficult ... There is a problem with the Sea of ​​Okhotsk - it will be considered theirs too, and then, on a full basis, the Japanese will scoop up all the fish resources (and they can do this) and where will the Russians fish later? restoration of fish resources? Give everything to the Japanese?
  30. lukke
    lukke 29 January 2016 09: 44
    +2
    I really hope that after GDP there will also be strong politicians, statesmen at the helm. If there is a semblance of Misha-2%, then we will give the Kuril Islands, Crimea and something else they will demand. History is cyclical - so let GDP be the weakest of the following!) drinks
  31. Editor
    Editor 29 January 2016 09: 44
    +2
    peace treaty... - lived without him for 70 years and everything's good...
    the absence of such an agreement helped in a FRIENDLY NOT TURNBACK back to the partner ...
  32. vladimirvn
    vladimirvn 29 January 2016 09: 46
    +1
    Well, just like children. First they’ll come up with this event for themselves, then they will believe it, and then they are offended that it did not happen.
  33. LÄRZ
    LÄRZ 29 January 2016 09: 46
    +4
    Japan will receive the Kuril Islands only after our transfer of the Crimea. So have some Japanese patience, more sake and wait. Sakura is in your hands.
  34. made13
    made13 29 January 2016 09: 56
    +1
    First, let Japan compensate for Tsushima, Port Arthur, and then drive out US bases from its territory. Then let's talk!
  35. ARS56
    ARS56 29 January 2016 10: 15
    +2
    As a gesture of goodwill, the Japanese could give us Hokkaido, then we could talk about the four islands of the Kuril ridge as a response step. But not otherwise.
  36. Miner
    Miner 29 January 2016 10: 16
    +7
    Japanese.

    What are we talking about?

    You are weaker, we are stronger.

    What other Kuril Islands?
  37. VohaAhov
    VohaAhov 29 January 2016 10: 25
    +2
    I think that gestures to the Japanese are shown unmeasured. Well, from myself - an all-knowing vegetable, and even a bald one.
  38. kirgudu
    kirgudu 29 January 2016 10: 31
    +2
    A gesture of goodwill ... Let the Kwantung army remember, it will be both goodwill, and a powerful hero, and a magical pendell.
  39. Bosk
    Bosk 29 January 2016 10: 42
    +1
    I remember when, under Khrushchev, the Japanese were offered two islands in exchange for complete neutrality ... but no! for them America as a "roof" and "eternal claim" to Russia is of great value ...
  40. aszzz888
    aszzz888 29 January 2016 10: 56
    +1
    Glue on the forehead of EVERY ipenets (at their expense) a piece of the card where it is shown that the Kuril Islands are OUR! laughing
  41. Skym
    Skym 29 January 2016 10: 57
    +4
    They are all funny. We entered the war, lost, now they complain about something there. The results of the Second World War are the cornerstone of the structure of the world, and there is no need to revise them. Dangerous ...
    1. the villain
      the villain 29 January 2016 13: 09
      0
      Quote: SkyM
      The results of the Second World War are the cornerstone of the structure of the world, and there is no need to revise them. Dangerous ...

      Can show lol
  42. Yugan Oleg
    Yugan Oleg 29 January 2016 10: 58
    +1
    Quote: met
    It is necessary to bring the truth to the Japanese comrades - Japan, an occupied country. After a hypothetical "gesture of goodwill", the Kuril Islands will immediately find the enemy military infrastructure of the occupying country, which directly threatens Russia. What gesture of goodwill can we talk about? Whose interests do Japanese politicians serve? Isn't it time for the clever Japanese to finally solve their problems with the 70-year de-occupation? As a gesture of goodwill, the USSR or Russia offered mutually beneficial cooperation. But, apparently, it is more profitable for the Japanese to save trejeris (to pay for the debts of the occupying country). Bravo, American diplomacy, brainwashing the descendants of the samurai for so many years!

    In support of the above; I recall - Japan supported the sanctions against Russia because of the Crimean events. Where is Crimea and where is Japan.
  43. Pvi1206
    Pvi1206 29 January 2016 10: 59
    +2
    The times of good gestures (the era of Gorbachev-Eltsin) have sunk into oblivion. Japan is more than Russia interested in concluding a peace treaty. Its economy has reached the limit of development within the country; it needs expansion into foreign markets. And there is no better place than Russia for it. Russia has inexhaustible resources.
    We must wait until the country of the rising sun ripens. No territorial concessions!
    1. CRASH
      CRASH 29 January 2016 11: 32
      +1
      I am a skeptic, and for good reason.
      No territorial concessions!

      http://www.mk.ru/economics/2015/06/16/kitay-beret-sibir-v-arendu-tolko-nachalo.h
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      1. saturn.mmm
        saturn.mmm 29 January 2016 20: 32
        -1
        Quote: CRASH.
        I am a skeptic, and for good reason.

        Ananologically.
    2. Mr. Pip
      Mr. Pip 29 January 2016 14: 47
      +1
      Quote: Pvi1206
      Its economy has reached the limit of development within the country; it needs expansion into foreign markets.

      Well, actually, the whole modern economy of Japan was originally built on the saturation of foreign markets, primarily the United States. Google, for example, the history of Japanese engineering.
      Quote: Pvi1206
      And there is no better place than Russia for it.

      The markets of the US and the EU (and of growing China as well) are much more attractive. Yes, Japanese business has been represented on the Russian market for 25 years already - and the absence of a "peace treaty" does not prevent it from doing so.
  44. CRASH
    CRASH 29 January 2016 11: 18
    +2
    Just remember my words, if someone like Medvedev D or he comes to power, the islands will fly off to Japan in a moment, and Kiselev will declare victory, and the signing of a peace treaty, which they could not sign until that day. The Chinese were given the "Taman" and part of the Far East Military District for the RSKh lands, and no one thought that after their chemicals there would be scorched earth there.

    And the green line, it will be the border if we give up the islands, the islands that the Japanese do not need, they need water, crab, fish, etc. Well, you can build a couple of bases on Kunashir.
    1. MSL
      MSL 6 February 2016 13: 54
      0
      Quote: CRASH.
      . Well, you can build a couple of bases on Kunashir.

      In-in! Amerikosovsky!
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  46. WHITE CAT
    WHITE CAT 29 January 2016 11: 56
    +1
    Waiting, say ... Okay, let's not bother them .... wait.
  47. sw6513
    sw6513 29 January 2016 12: 16
    +1
    Let them wait is their lot .. Although if they want to give, none of us will be asked
  48. Wolka
    Wolka 29 January 2016 12: 19
    +1
    not an inch of your land ...
  49. valentina-makanalina
    valentina-makanalina 29 January 2016 12: 28
    +2
    a peace treaty, and then, perhaps, not return, but the transfer by the Soviet Union as a gesture of goodwill to these two southern islands

    Gestures can be different. Great powers are more accustomed to making hand gestures not from themselves, but towards themselves. If we consider ourselves a great power, and not regional, then the gesture should be appropriate.
  50. Crown
    Crown 29 January 2016 12: 48
    0
    After the Yankees give us Alaska.