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Kazan company developer will compensate for the damage from the release of unsuccessful chemical protection suits

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Kazan enterprise will return to the budget about 80-mln. Rub. due to the fact that the chemical protection suits designed and manufactured by him turned out to be dangerous for the health of military personnel, reports TASS the report of the prosecutor on the supervision of the execution of laws on sensitive sites of Dmitry Yerpelev.


Kazan company developer will compensate for the damage from the release of unsuccessful chemical protection suits
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“The question of recovery of these funds will be raised in any case, the amount of the contract amounted to 80 million rubles,” said Erpelev.

“The inspection materials on the production of low-quality products under the state contract are being prepared for transfer to the investigating authorities,” he specified. “First, a criminal procedural assessment should be given, then the question of recovery of funds can be raised.”

According to the agency, previously one of the enterprises in Kazan received a state order for the development of chemical protection suits for the military, however, "during the development work, changes were made to the tactical and technical requirements in order to mitigate the requirements for the technical parameters of the costume," as a result state tests.
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  1. Hubun
    Hubun 27 January 2016 19: 08
    17
    Well, how is that? And thank God that they didn’t put a bribe, but they didn’t send them to the troops. And so in this chemical protection there is little pleasant
    1. Arktidianets
      Arktidianets 27 January 2016 19: 11
      -3
      Something like this ...
    2. NIKNN
      NIKNN 27 January 2016 19: 13
      16
      during the development work, changes were made to the tactical and technical task


      Who contributed? belay Who agreed and signed? belay
      So they need to take money from them, otherwise this hour will be calculated due to non-payment of salaries to hard workers. sad
      1. bort4145
        bort4145 27 January 2016 19: 22
        +4
        Who contributed? Who agreed and signed?
        So said
        during development work
        - this is when there is no way to do normally, they make indulgence to themselves, counting on "maybe."
        1. CHILD
          CHILD 27 January 2016 19: 41
          +4
          TK corrected for themselves .... maybe a little margin came out .... maybe they strangled everyone at the tender ... but the fact that such geese didn’t take off is happy)))) ... they couldn’t agree, a good sign))). ..but there are still a million nuances ... not visible from the table.
      2. vex
        vex 28 January 2016 02: 29
        +1
        It is necessary to plant the guilty. Money spent once, now the second will have to. Time wasted too. That it was not inconsequential to state chemical orders, it is necessary to close all those who made the decision. Perhaps the company is included in the blacklist of suppliers.
      3. Nitarius
        Nitarius 28 January 2016 06: 07
        0
        I agree .. any mistake has NAMES ... as STALIN said!
    3. Alex_Rarog
      Alex_Rarog 27 January 2016 19: 20
      +2
      Damn, isn’t the order in the country coming ?!
      1. Thunderbolt
        Thunderbolt 27 January 2016 20: 06
        +2
        According to the laws of wartime, a tribunal is required for such "arts". But now it is not a war. Therefore, the state is obliged to take its own (and therefore ours), and the troops must still receive protective suits. It is long time to have such suits. the presence of dismantled rubbish.
        1. PSih2097
          PSih2097 27 January 2016 20: 50
          0
          Quote: Thunderbolt
          But now is not a war.

          Really? the war is going on, though it's cold, but still a war that the impudent Saxons from the Yankees want to transfer to a hot stage, but something constantly interferes with them, then the RSD-10 with the RS-20V, then the Akula pr. 941 with the R-39 and "Dolphins" pr.667 with "Blue" ...
    4. Prisoner
      Prisoner 27 January 2016 20: 01
      0
      There is little pleasant in the troops during the exercises, but if people involved in the utilization of chemical weapons shove it? For such matters it is necessary to wind up in full. Spoiled bastards!
    5. Zoldat_A
      Zoldat_A 27 January 2016 21: 46
      +4
      Quote: Hubun
      And thank God that they didn’t put a bribe, but they didn’t send them to the troops. And so in this chemical protection there is little pleasant

      And with Yudashkin 20 lyamas will be exacted for a new form? And then they made a noise and so quietly, lowered the brakes ...

      And when, finally, for the parades we will have front door form, and not everyday with axels or operetta Yudashkinsky?
      1. lysyj bob
        lysyj bob 28 January 2016 00: 32
        +2
        Yudashkin disowned the form that came into the army. He says that with his project that form has nothing to do. The department of Serdyukov decided to save and redrawn in their own way, and, apparently, not only the form, but also the grandmother. In general, the laurels of Hugo Boss bypassed him.
    6. Dreiko11
      Dreiko11 28 January 2016 03: 05
      +1
      they gave a bribe, during the competition, to be chosen as winners, and then they still violated the law with a change in the technical requirements for suits. It’s good that they come to their senses in time. Well, all who held the competition of responsible persons (the chairman of the procurement commission and all members, as well as the experts involved) need to be held accountable, which would have been inconsistent. Now the world is on the verge of another major mess, and we have nothing to fight. The West has actively shown its face and intention to destroy Russia, so we are ready to be a massive rebuff.
    7. Ugrumiy
      Ugrumiy 28 January 2016 04: 55
      +1
      Normally. The question is, where did the military receiver look?
  2. hartlend
    hartlend 27 January 2016 19: 09
    +5
    The controversial title of the article - the company will compensate, immediately there are doubts. The article is already believable - prosecutors are bugging and trying to recover.
    1. Beaver
      Beaver 27 January 2016 19: 33
      +1
      I hope the enterprise is not a one-off "limited liability company (in the amount of 10 rubles)." what
    2. opus
      opus 27 January 2016 22: 28
      +3
      Quote: hartlend
      The controversial title of the article.

      You will be surprised .. not only the "title".
      In the article and the photo "sports" ... photo german costume chemical protection MSA AUER Vautex SL.





      (clearly visible on the sleeve)

      Incl. nothing wrong"

      Quote: hartlend
      Kazan company developer will compensate for the damage from the release of unsuccessful chemical protection suits

      Conclusion:
      the author is a deer, an editor (or moderator) is also a deer. TASS however (from where the "Spizanskaya tower" is from) the same "deer" however

      -----------------
      Our costumes are something like this:


      1. PKK
        PKK 28 January 2016 00: 52
        0
        Costumes are clearly not for frost. For Russia they are not suitable.
        1. opus
          opus 28 January 2016 01: 13
          +2
          Quote: PKK
          Costumes are clearly not for frost. For Russia they are not suitable.


          1. According to the current weather, it’ll do (frost resistance -30 gC)


          2. At low temperatures, BWA are not sprayed (pointless), and they are not indulged with AT / UDMH.

          3.Our calculated to -25grs


          4. True, Kazan (probably what is "talking about" in the so-called article) is up to -40grs (but as a rule -25grs 6-10 minutes)
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  4. Beaver
    Beaver 27 January 2016 19: 29
    0
    Tough and at the same time right. good Otherwise, do not put things in order. soldier
  5. Stinger
    Stinger 27 January 2016 19: 46
    +3
    however, “during the development work, changes were made to the tactical and technical task in order to soften the requirements for the technical parameters of the suit”

    Tuff it.
    First, TTZ can only be changed by the customer in agreement with the developer. The answer is the customer, not the developer. If a developer changes without a customer, then this is a forgery.
    The second one. If the product meets the requirements of the amended TTZ, then it has passed the state test. Since state tests are conducted to meet the requirements of this technical specifications, and not the previous one.
    1. Riv
      Riv 27 January 2016 19: 50
      +3
      Really some nonsense. Most likely the author is not in the subject and the costumes simply do not correspond to the TTZ.
    2. kil 31
      kil 31 27 January 2016 19: 53
      0
      And why should I transfer money if the products have not passed state testing. Now you will find the director of the entrepreneur FIG. Hard workers are probably already in search of a new job.
      According to the agency, previously one of the enterprises in Kazan received a state order for the development of chemical protection suits for the military, however, "during the development work, changes were made to the tactical and technical requirements in order to mitigate the requirements for the technical parameters of the costume," as a result state tests.
  6. Great-grandfather of Zeus
    Great-grandfather of Zeus 27 January 2016 19: 54
    0
    I did not go to the hack work!
  7. AlNikolaich
    AlNikolaich 27 January 2016 20: 02
    +2
    I would like more details ... What kind of chemical suit model? Kazan citizens produce many models, both for the army and the state of emergency, as well as for industry.
    And so, nothing is clear ...
    1. Koshak
      Koshak 27 January 2016 20: 18
      0
      Quote: AlNikolaich
      I would like more details ... What kind of chemical suit model? Kazan citizens produce many models, both for the army and the state of emergency, as well as for industry.
      And so, nothing is clear ...

      Why not clear? Screwed up - paid. All is correct.
  8. Fonmeg
    Fonmeg 27 January 2016 20: 25
    0
    In the good time of such artists and subscribers for 10 years without the right to correspondence! And rightly so!
  9. TOR2
    TOR2 27 January 2016 20: 33
    +1
    And then they will fix the joint? Chemical holidays need chemical suits.
  10. Mikhail Krapivin
    Mikhail Krapivin 27 January 2016 20: 59
    +1
    The main thing is that the head of the enterprise, with a suitcase of cash, no longer screwed abroad. He himself can be scratched back, but the money will not be returned.
  11. UNFAMILIAR
    UNFAMILIAR 27 January 2016 21: 36
    +3
    The news was filed as if it were some kind of prosecutor’s office, but meanwhile on mat. part interesting, what kind of TK (what can be opened) is OZK or special. an order for specific units and tasks (for example, refueling special fuel), which did not work, since unsuccessful means you can have many photos, including both the predecessor and foreign analogues, it would be interesting smile
  12. Altona
    Altona 27 January 2016 21: 43
    +3
    What is there in TK? Ancient OZK somehow produced the same. Is there probably the whole chip in the composition of the rubberized fabric, and not the overalls design? Or does a gas mask not meet the requirements? It is not clear from the article. And what is harmful? Allergic reactions in the body? Insufficient tightness? Inconvenience of use? Unreliable fastening elements?
  13. Manul
    Manul 27 January 2016 21: 50
    +1
    the chemical protection suits he issued turned out to be dangerous for the health of military personnel

    Than? Is the paint toxic, or are the laces getting tangled? Or is it the wrong wording? (Well, something like "they cannot ensure the safety of the life and health of personnel in conditions close to extreme")
  14. Gunther
    Gunther 27 January 2016 21: 51
    +1
    ... The question of collecting these funds will be raised ...

    When lovers of warming their hands on the state will, like in China, be allowed to disassemble (for the needs of transplantation), then the crook's appetite will disappear.
    And to collect, for example, from a "bankrupt" can be up to the carovkina of the spell.
  15. Gunther
    Gunther 27 January 2016 21: 53
    0
    ... The question of collecting these funds will be raised ...

    When lovers of warming their hands on the state will be, as in China, allowed to be disassembled (for the needs of transplantation), then the crook's appetite will disappear.
    And you can whip, for example, from a "bankrupt" until the carrot's spell.
  16. Wolverine
    Wolverine 27 January 2016 22: 01
    0
    Quote: NIKNN
    Who contributed? Who agreed and signed?
    So they need to take money from them, otherwise this hour will be calculated due to non-payment of salaries to hard workers.


    And who signed the test, as under arms under Stalin.
  17. arnulla
    arnulla 27 January 2016 22: 11
    0
    So, it would be more often .. You look, bullshit will begin to drive less
  18. maestro123
    maestro123 27 January 2016 22: 20
    0
    Quote: Hubun
    Well, how is that? And thank God that they didn’t put a bribe, but they didn’t send them to the troops. And so in this chemical protection there is little pleasant


    “During the development work were changes in the tactical and technical specifications in order to soften the requirements for the technical parameters of the suit”, As a result of which the products did not pass state tests.


    Why immediately about the bad?
    1. Ze Kot
      Ze Kot 28 January 2016 11: 03
      0
      Quote: maestro123
      however, "during the development work, changes were made to the tactical and technical specifications in order to soften the requirements for the technical parameters of the costume," as a result of which the products did not pass state testing.


      So I did not understand. The requirements were relaxed, but the suit still failed the test. It turns out that he was not ready for testing at all.
  19. Yak-3P
    Yak-3P 28 January 2016 00: 46
    0
    the old ones fought very well with excess weight (especially if you screw it up) and they kept the gases well .. in a tent at least .. invent a bicycle on Hera ?? il from nano-kakonit virus save ??
    1. opus
      opus 28 January 2016 01: 43
      +1
      Quote: Yak-3P
      the old ones fought very well with excess weight (especially if you screw it up) and they kept the gases well.

      Do you mean OZK or L-1?

      from rubberized fabric of UNKL-3 or fabric of T-15 ... old stuff is all

      and it’s dreary: a raincoat, a raincoat cover, raincoat holders (2 pcs.), pegs (19 pcs.), fasteners (4 pcs.), a set of protective stockings (1 pair) with pegs (6 pcs.) and two braids, gloves summer BL-1M and winter BZ-1M
      According to the standard, the length of stay in the kindergarten should not exceed 4 hours. In addition, the standard time spent in the suit is significantly reduced with increasing ambient temperature.

      Long-term wear of the OZK is impossible due to the fact that the air cycle inside it is closed, and staying in such an atmosphere can lead to various diaper rash on the skin of a military man, which can affect the overall combat effectiveness of personnel


      American chemical protection suit JSLIST

      Pants and jacket are in vacuum packaging for 5 years, after 5 years they are checked and then for another 5 years. In general, the warranty shelf life is 15 years.


      Locking the trousers with buttons and zippers, and very cleverly done. Inside there is another layer of protection to "save little *** from the effects of OV", and also on the buttons, no buttons, very cool.

      SARATOGA patented fibers based on activated carbon. According to the manufacturer, we can walk up to 45 days without taking off the suit, without fear for our health and more than 120 days without washing the suit. If we have scrolled over an infected surface, within 24 hours we can safely wear this suit, then decontamination. Moreover, these 24 hours they protection against 10 g / m2 of liquid HF HD of skin-boiling effect (distilled mustard gas), soman - nerve agent (GD), at least six hours of protection from 4.000 mg · min / m3 of gaseous HF HD.
      --------------------------------

      how much has changed (
      Quote: Yak-3P
      on Hera to reinvent the wheel ??
      )?



      A soldier in a chemical protection suit and gas mask.
      1. Manul
        Manul 29 January 2016 12: 33
        0
        Quote: opus
        According to the standard, the length of stay in the MLC should not exceed 4 hours.

        Quote: opus
        You can walk up to 45 days without taking off your suit, without fear for your health and more than 120 days without washing the suit.

        Right up to tears, it’s a shame for our army. And after that, someone manages to constantly blame everything American. We still have to study and study, (a few words of obscene language).
  20. Koshak
    Koshak 28 January 2016 05: 59
    +1
    "The main thing is that the suit fits." Or in more detail - what's wrong, how many "suits" and for what amount, etc., or not at all to write in this style. negative Comments details notes.