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How did Washington offer Uzbekistan to join the "anti-terrorism coalition" proposed ..

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Last week, Foreign Minister of Uzbekistan Abdulaziz Kamilov was invited to Washington. The meeting with him was originally held by the US Assistant Secretary of State for South and Central Asia (a kind of “Asian equivalent” of Victoria Nuland) Nish Desai Biswal. There were also meetings with other US government officials.


How did Washington offer Uzbekistan to join the "anti-terrorism coalition" proposed ..


From a short statement press office Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Uzbekistan:
The delegation of the Republic of Uzbekistan headed by Foreign Minister Abdulaziz Kamilov, who is in the United States in connection with the participation in the sixth round of Uzbek-American political consultations, held bilateral meetings in Washington, DC with the senior director for South Asia of the US National Security Council Peter Lavoi, and. . Undersecretary of State for Political Affairs Thomas Shannon, Deputy Minister of Energy Elizabeth Sherwood-Randal and Assistant Secretary of State for South and Central Asia Nisha Desai Biswal.

The state of relations in various spheres was discussed with emphasis on the prospects for their progressive development, as well as some international and regional issues.

The members of the Uzbek delegation also held meetings and negotiations with representatives of a number of US ministries and departments.


In addition, Uzbek politicians in the United States met with Undersecretary of State Heather Higgenbottom, during which issues of interaction between Tashkent and Washington were discussed.

What was the main agenda during Uzbek-US contacts? According to the news agencies of the two states, there were several thematic lines, but among them the subject of regional security in Central Asia, and “security” in its context, which is understood by the United States of America, stood out. According to some data, the question was raised that a serious threat emanates from Uzbekistan on Afghan territory, especially as a result of the intensification of the so-called Islamic State militants in northern Afghanistan.

The American "partners" made it clear to the Uzbek delegation that Uzbekistan and its neighboring Turkmenistan, which declared themselves non-bloc states, "put themselves under a terrorist attack" in Central Asia. At the same time, another neighboring state of Uzbekistan, Tajikistan, was not mentioned, since it is located in the CSTO, and the United States, it seems, is trying to “make an offer that cannot be refused” to precisely those states in the region that are seriously confident in maintaining their own non-blocking status.

What is the proposal coming to Tashkent from official Washington? And it consisted in the fact that Uzbekistan was offered “to act as a united anti-terrorist front” in the region. The place of the main "at the front" American "partners", of course, reserve.

Such a proposal from Washington officials to Uzbekistan looks particularly interesting, if only because the Americans themselves have been sitting in Afghanistan for more than 14 years, not taking any active actions not only in the armed struggle against terrorism, but in blocking the channels of earnings received by militants, including the main - drug traffic (not in relation to the Taliban). Moreover, during the time of the American “anti-terrorist” operation in Afghanistan, the areas of “cultural” opium poppy growth have increased tenfold. Moreover, recently, literally every day, new square kilometers of territory are being added, controlled by various terrorist groups, including Taliban gangs and the so-called Islamic State.

And against this background (against the background of if not outright US support for militants, then at least for a steady "unwillingness" to interfere with the militants), the United States suggests that Uzbekistan should join the "anti-Igilov coalition." “Well, in that very coalition that, in more than 1,5, its operation in Syria and Iraq was destroyed, as the super-truthful American media outlets write, as many 40 thousands of igilovtsevs ... And the militant coalition destroyed so actively that the number of those constantly grew, the areas of the territories they occupy ... We must not forget about the other "feat" of the coalition - just in the region in which they are proposing that Uzbekistan should impose a regional "order" on the US authorities - in Afghanistan. We are talking about the bombing of the hospital of the international organization “Doctors without Borders” in Kunduz. For this war crime, the States still have not made a basic apology.

Apparently, keeping in mind all these facts of the "success of the United States in the fight against international terrorism", the head of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Uzbekistan Abdulaziz Kamilov found the strength to tell his American friends: "no." I am glad that Uzbekistan has enough bright heads among political elites, who are well aware that if the United States accuses President Karimov of violating the rights and freedoms of citizens and at the same time they invite to their coalition “to fight against Daisy (IG),” as they say wait thin After all, if official Tashkent accepted the US proposal, this would enable the States to at least deploy their new military base in Uzbekistan, and at the very best with the hands of the same partially controlled Afghan militants to transfer political chaos and military operations to Uzbekistan itself.

It will be important to recall here that the Uzbek President Islam Karimov at one time declared that Uzbekistan would not join the military-political coalitions, and also would not allow the deployment of foreign military bases on the territory of the country, as it would not allow the participation of the armed forces of Uzbekistan in armed conflicts country. Formally, these statements by President Karimov have already received the status of state law.

But, after all, the United States, as is well known, doesn’t like it very much when a state answers “no” to them.

And then "suddenly" on Radio Ozodlik (the Uzbek branch of Radio Liberty) with a kind of frantic activity (even against the background of previous versions) began to publish materials that were clearly aimed at discrediting the Uzbek authorities. Materials written, of course, by activists ... On the eve of Online the radio station released material on how “freaks in power” (this is a quote) sanctioning the cutting of plane trees in Tashkent, and the people “not like a flock of bleating, but submissive sheep, but as a school of silent fish (...) doomedly waits for a frying pan” (this also quote).

Cutting out plane trees is, of course, quite bad, but only publications of this kind of materials with conclusions about the need to certainly sweep away the power of Uzbekistan. Is this not another attempt to set the country on fire using absolutely, sorry for the jargon, the left reason? .. The theme of color revolutions arranged by the States , clearly not exhausted.

But Tashkent for a bold and independent position in contacts with the United States, as the youth says, is five points! But also to relax, considering that the theme of the “American proposal” has been exhausted, Tashkent is also useless.
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  1. aszzz888
    aszzz888 26 January 2016 06: 26
    +6
    This stinking Merikatos half-corpse will everywhere "produce" color and other revolutions. The queue is for Uzbekistan.
    1. Don karleone
      Don karleone 26 January 2016 09: 01
      +1
      They set the stage for the migration of Uzbeks overseas, ,,,,, according to the Russians they have, golden hands laughing
      1. Titanumide
        Titanumide 26 January 2016 11: 55
        0
        Offended at the expense of golden hands, not all Uzbek builders
        1. Don karleone
          Don karleone 26 January 2016 17: 01
          +1
          I offend the Uzbeks .... no. You can not offend those with whom you ate from the same plate
          1. Talgat
            Talgat 26 January 2016 18: 33
            +4
            We have no contradictions or tensions with neighboring Uzbekistan, people go back and forth - trade goes on, etc.

            I would be glad to see friendly neighbors with us in one economic union - this is good for trade and trade - the common market is always profitable

            And in one military bloc - returning to the CSTO would strengthen stability both inside and outside the republic - it is always safer together. Uzbekistan has a large army, Kazakhstan is updating aviation and air defense with modern technology - together they would be stronger than separately
            1. Kasym
              Kasym 26 January 2016 22: 07
              +1
              Hello Talgat! Why does Tashkent need such a coalition? They have a "fellow countryman", an ethnic Uzbek, General Dostum is, a completely legitimate (and not some kind of Al-Qaeda or Daesh) leader in Afghanistan. If necessary, they (Uzbeks) will simply "buy" it and put it on the "guard of the Motherland." He will do more there than any coalition! He does not ask for money, give him a weapon. Well, Tashkent will give more attendants (Uzbekistan will not become poorer). I don’t understand why we don’t use such methods. Are we waiting for the Americans to leave? And there Masud's nephew (Tajik) also rules instead of the Panjshir Lion - he is also not averse to being friends. And all neighbors can be involved in the settlement - China, India, Iran, Pakistan. Apparently our leaders decided to "dip" the Yankees deeper into their slops - let them themselves, while they sit there, digest their foreign policy. And when they leave, then everything must be done there with local hands.
              Karimov understands all this, and already burned with the base. So the answer of Tashkent is logical. In case of danger, he will arm Dostum, he can strengthen his fighters, and he will fight in Afghanistan, and not at home. This is a better option than a coalition with unreliable Yankees. There is another option for Tashkent with the CSTO - the neighbors will not tolerate an attack on Uzbekistan, but with one purpose. But who can openly attack like this? The Taliban - I’m sure that if the power is taken away, then it will be necessary to recognize the neighbors for legalization ?! And the Uzbeks themselves can still give in the neck - the most numerous country in the region. DAISH? They will be wet there, if they get to power now, there are enough such people. Therefore, all these are US scarecrows. Only they can arrange a provocation there with an attack on the countries of Central Asia. Thugs are only capable of terrorist attacks, and not a direct clash, especially with Uzbekistan. hi
              1. Kasym
                Kasym 26 January 2016 22: 49
                +1
                Talgat, actually I have such thoughts on Afghanistan. If the Yankees leave, then the civil war immediately begins. The Pashtuns and Pakistanis will support the Taliban, the Uzbeks of Dostum, their Tajiks, and their Iranians. And everyone will strive to create a buffer on the border that did not throw home. So now we need to solve the problem, in terms of what to do after the Yankees !? And the main thing is weapons and ammunition. While there the Yankees are arming the Afghan armed forces, they, in turn, supply spirits of all stripes (according to the experience of the USSR) - we can’t do anything. Therefore, all neighbors must unanimously agree that they should not supply anyone with weapons and ammunition. And if there is still a tough option (civil war), then generally close the borders to all neighbors. After a couple of months, there will be no bread (threat of hunger) - maybe then instead of poppy they will start to grow wheat and not before the war.
                Washington has not achieved any goals in Afghanistan. The Taliban, in the event of NATO withdrawal, will also begin to dominate and strive for power. So the Yankees are sitting there - they cannot twitch, there are few troops to control. To leave is a shame and reputational, unacceptable damage; the result is zero in "cave" Afghanistan. Stalemate situation. Hence such "activity" with Uzbekistan and Turkmenistan. hi
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    3. siberalt
      siberalt 26 January 2016 14: 49
      +3
      Uzbeks have always been more civilized than the rest of central Asia. And no wonder that the states broke off there.
    4. fisherman2
      fisherman2 26 January 2016 21: 56
      0
      Do not wait!
  2. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 26 January 2016 06: 58
    +5
    But Tashkent also does not need to relax, considering that the topic of the "American proposal" has been exhausted.

    I completely agree with the author. If the United States has their eyes on a region, they will not give up until they create chaos there, or get good on the teeth. But even in this case, with a deep grudge against a misunderstanding of their world goals, they will continue to commit nasty things.
    1. aszzz888
      aszzz888 26 January 2016 10: 48
      0
      rotmistr60 (3) SU Today, 06: 58
      But Tashkent also does not need to relax, considering that the topic of the "American proposal" has been exhausted.
      I completely agree with the author. If the United States has their eyes on a region, they will not give up until they create chaos there, or get good on the teeth.


      Better immediately on the teeth. Beat until the indigenous ones fly out! laughing
      1. rotmistr60
        rotmistr60 26 January 2016 12: 09
        0
        You are right, but Central Asia cannot afford such pleasure. Therefore, Uzbekistan politely refused.
  3. Titanumide
    Titanumide 26 January 2016 06: 58
    +8
    We will not have color revolutions. Go to oppa
    1. Mikhail Krapivin
      Mikhail Krapivin 26 January 2016 10: 46
      +6
      You really try, and we will root for you :)
    2. Lelek
      Lelek 26 January 2016 12: 08
      +3
      Quote: Titanumide
      We will not have color revolutions. Go to oppa


      God give you reason. And drive "Radio Ozodlik" to the neck. Be aware of recent shocks and those who initiated them.
    3. bazilio
      bazilio 26 January 2016 16: 08
      +1
      Quote: Titanumide
      We will not have color revolutions. Go to oppa

      Will not be. not only watered by the elite, but among ordinary citizens there are not so many fools that would stir up the revolution
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  4. Lumumba
    Lumumba 26 January 2016 07: 04
    +3
    How did Washington offer Uzbekistan to join the "anti-terrorism coalition" proposed ..


    Pahan offers a roof. Otherwise there will be problems.
    1. The gentleman
      The gentleman 26 January 2016 11: 07
      +3
      Pahan let others offer)))
  5. parusnik
    parusnik 26 January 2016 07: 32
    +7
    Islam Karimov will leave ... wait for the next "color" or "flower" revolution ... Now, as in the world, or with Russia, reliably and firmly, or with the United States ... Riding two horses, the seat will crack ... , the horses will trample ...
  6. Krieg_XIII
    Krieg_XIII 26 January 2016 08: 05
    +6
    Already someone, but Karimov is not used to playing democracy.
    All these "activists" will face a rather unenviable fate if the states continue to put pressure on official Tashkent.
    1. Apsit
      Apsit 26 January 2016 12: 04
      +1
      Quote: Krieg_XIII
      Already someone, but Karimov is not used to playing democracy.

      Yes, yes it was the case in Ferghana ... But time is passing, and people are getting old. And Karimov is no longer what he once was. And there were no receivers either. The East is a delicate matter, and where it is thin there, as you know, it is torn.
      1. Titanumide
        Titanumide 26 January 2016 15: 17
        0
        And what will happen if Moscow has an identical situation? Recently, the FSB was allowed to fire at crowds. Sometimes you have to use force against terrorists
      2. fisherman2
        fisherman2 26 January 2016 22: 04
        -1
        Jackals ridges break the position. And DAD thank you and health.
  7. Fearless
    Fearless 26 January 2016 08: 22
    -3
    And why not attack them first and shut up their mouths with that, and even then they have completely lost their fear and where is the UN really looking. It is necessary for all states to get together and write a letter to the United Nations on America that it does and provokes the Hoas country and war in others.
    1. 2С5
      2С5 26 January 2016 08: 42
      +6
      ... UN is America .. What are you, my friend, having been born yesterday or what? UN, OSCE, IMF, EU and other distribution offices, hanging on the world stage 99,99999 ..% state miscarriages, miscarriages, stepsons, works, kidneys, etc ...
    2. fisherman2
      fisherman2 26 January 2016 22: 05
      0
      Enema Time Has Not Reached
  8. tomeng
    tomeng 26 January 2016 08: 31
    +6
    Hold on, Uzbek brothers!
    1. Titanumide
      Titanumide 26 January 2016 10: 07
      +3
      Thanks for the support, hold on. Better a Russian brother near than in heaven
  9. askort154
    askort154 26 January 2016 08: 31
    +8
    Karimov is already a scientist. Flirting with the Americans in the 90s, almost ended in disastrous for him.
    He harshly destroyed the embryo of the "color revolution" and decided to isolate himself from both the United States and Russia.
    The Americans are trying to make a second run.
    1. makarick
      makarick 26 January 2016 12: 28
      12
      I am Russian. I live all my life in Uzbekistan. I will say this. I don’t need cheap American democracy here. Karimov is a very wise politician and statesman. In fact, we have a great merit for his peaceful sky. There are a lot of examples. At the elections I voted for the president consciously without any agitation. Of course, someone will talk about a difficult life ... but where is it easy? But to be honest, I'm not a rich person. Rather, the middle class. On the basis of nationality, there is no sign of oppression. in my business. simple example (I need to learn Khokhlam) with a state language (state language-Uzbek. already 25 years old) ALL Official documents are translated into Russian. If there is a need to call a translator without problems. I speak conversational Uzbek. but the literary language is very different .k. many words perceive by ear
      1. Titanumide
        Titanumide 26 January 2016 15: 20
        0
        I completely agree. Absolute democracy will lead to a house. We love Karimov as you love Putin.
  10. Belousov
    Belousov 26 January 2016 08: 49
    0
    Karimov is holding on, but how long will he last? It is clear that the states will not give up until they organize another series of "controlled" chaos there. And here we would have to hurry up and neatly drag him over to us, at least to the status of "benevolent neutrality."
    1. The gentleman
      The gentleman 26 January 2016 11: 04
      0
      why don’t you consider it a reliable partner? don’t fuss and pull, but just a partner?
      1. alicante11
        alicante11 26 January 2016 13: 23
        +1
        why don’t you consider it a reliable partner? don’t fuss and pull, but just a partner?


        And this does not happen, Uzbekistan is too insignificant country for the Great Powers to recognize it as their partner. No offense, but small fish are food for large ones. Of course, there is also life in symbiosis. But symbiosis still implies a very close relationship of "partners".
        1. The gentleman
          The gentleman 26 January 2016 13: 31
          0
          I agree, but it is also necessary to take into account the geographical position of Uzbekistan and its influence on this region. And today, Uzbekistan has partnerships with the Russian Federation in many areas
        2. Titanumide
          Titanumide 26 January 2016 15: 25
          0
          Not such a small country as you say. Imagine the geographical location. The military base of the Americans or NATO is potentially much more dangerous than the bases in the Baltic states.
          1. alicante11
            alicante11 26 January 2016 15: 41
            0
            Not such a small country as you say. Imagine the geographical location. The military base of the Americans or NATO is potentially much more dangerous than the bases in the Baltic states.


            Generally, it meant military-political and economic importance. Geostrategic importance does not in any way affect the importance or insignificance of a country as a "partner". In general, Europe and the Naglo-Saxons in this case act very simply - if the bridgehead tries to conceive of itself that it is a partner, it simply comes and seizes. You can find a list of such "partners" on the Web. And this has not happened to you yet for a banal reason, you are too close to the borders of Russia. So it is not very smart of you to arrange "neutrality".
            1. The gentleman
              The gentleman 27 January 2016 08: 55
              0
              But for us to enter into any block if we have bilateral agreements, in particular with the Russian Federation?
          2. fisherman2
            fisherman2 26 January 2016 22: 12
            0
            It was so fast, the USA is presented like this (you are so cool)
      2. VL33
        VL33 26 January 2016 13: 42
        0
        It doesn’t happen like that. Either black or white, it will turn out so that it will be necessary to make a decision with whom and how to continue. He is gray everywhere he is gray, maybe a little white and a little black. Urkaina has shown a lot of vectoriality and partnership. As they say how much the rope does not curl - the truth will triumph anyway. The Basmachis also had their own truth, but the moral of this fable is that the truth of the slaughtered people turned out to be white. :))
  11. parusnik
    parusnik 26 January 2016 08: 53
    +2
    Quote: Fearless
    It is necessary for all states to get together and write a letter to the United Nations on America

    It will be safer at Sportloto .. smile Surely ..
  12. Titanumide
    Titanumide 26 January 2016 10: 05
    0
    [quote = Belousov] Karimov is holding on, but how long will he last? It is clear that the states will not give up until they organize another series of "controlled" chaos there. And here we would have to hurry up and gently pull him over to ourselves, at least to the status of “benevolent neutrality.” [/ The system has already been established, besides Karimov there are other leaders, there will be no chaos
  13. The gentleman
    The gentleman 26 January 2016 11: 02
    +2
    Good afternoon, gentlemen. The independence of our country lies, first of all, in supporting its own interests. Our country (albeit small and young) has the opportunity to refuse. In addition, external factors (radio ozodlik) have long amused the local people. You go to Facebook and see what ordinary citizens of the Republic of Uzbekistan write under their "articles". And we have enough minds not to allow the country to be destroyed. Yes, and the people are not stupid, peace and tranquility are always our priority.
    1. alicante11
      alicante11 26 January 2016 13: 25
      +1
      in support of their own interests. our country (even small and young) has the opportunity to refuse


      Exclusively due to the fact that you are close to Russia. Libyans also tried to "refuse" to "an offer that cannot be refused." Reread the chronicles of the fall of the Jamahiriya. Without Russia, you would have expected the same.
      1. The gentleman
        The gentleman 27 January 2016 08: 52
        0
        what imperial expressions! no one denies that the Russian Federation is a great power, but it is inappropriate to say and believe that Uzbekistan is nothing. at least it is incorrect. and the fact that we are nowhere without the Russian Federation, well then look at other aspects. apparently you did not take into account that the fact that it is the Russian Federation that is interested in peace in Uzbekistan. In case of wrong actions, all the "dirt" will go to the Russian Federation. So please, do not look down at your neighbor
  14. Almatinets
    Almatinets 26 January 2016 11: 11
    +1
    Amerikosy blunt according to the standard scheme they created. The harder they push, the faster Uzbekistan will be forced to join the CSTO. Karimov has already acted like this - from where they press, he leaves in the opposite direction and so on in a circle ...
  15. makarick
    makarick 26 January 2016 12: 31
    0
    I don’t know why my flag changed. I didn’t do it. Can anyone tell me what’s the matter?
  16. thinker
    thinker 26 January 2016 15: 08
    +3
    I wonder who launched the wrong photo on the network? Here is Abdulaziz Kamilov and Nisha Bisval (a kind of “Asian counterpart” to Victoria Nuland).
    And the top photo is the appointment to the post of Assistant Secretary of State for South and Central Asian Affairs - Niche Biswal, her husband and daughter, well, and John Kerry.
    We need to work harder hi
    1. Volodin
      26 January 2016 19: 27
      +1
      Quote: thinker
      I wonder who launched the wrong photo on the network?


      Dear Vladimir Alexandrovich, Your humble servant has "launched" a photo into an article. But why did you decide that the photo was "wrong"? Or do you think that if the article contains a phrase about the meeting between Bisval and Kamilov, then Bisval and Kamilov should be depicted in the photo? The photo, as it were, is intended to express the "CU" within the framework of the US State Department, and Kamilov was not meant here in any way.
  17. Roust
    Roust 26 January 2016 17: 01
    0
    Wait and see. Russia has recently forgiven a great debt, so it's too early to turn backwards, as has happened more than once. The people are sorry, he deserves a better life.
    1. Titanumide
      Titanumide 26 January 2016 20: 35
      -1
      We forgave the duty so that we did not have the legs of the Yankos. A kind of bribe))