In France, begins construction of the first "Mistral" for Russia

A spokesman for the French state-owned military shipbuilding company DCNS on Wednesday told RIA Newsthat an advance payment was received and the French side began the construction of the first Mistral-type helicopter carrier for the Russian Navy.

The contract for the construction of two "Mistral" - French-made helicopter carriers - was signed in June 2011. The total contract value is 1,2 billion euros.

"We received an advance a few weeks ago. The construction of the first ship begins. It will be completed in 2014, the second - in 2015," said a company spokesman.

He also said that the construction of the second vessel should begin several months later. Both ships will be built in parallel. However, he could not say whether the start of construction of the second helicopter carrier would depend on the timing of payment for the first one.

Universal helicopter carrier "Mistral" has a displacement of 21 thousand tons. The helicopter carrier develops speed of 18 nodes with the length of the hull 210 meters. Maximum cruising range - 20 thousand miles. The Mistral is served by a crew of 160 people. In addition to them, the helicopter carrier can take another 450 man. 6 from 16 helicopters of the Mistral air group can simultaneously be stationed on the takeoff deck. After the transfer of Russia, it is planned to deploy eight Ka-29 and Ka-52K helicopters each.

Comments

[Vadivak]

Quickly, however, in two years, such a shed of 21 tons should be built and delivered to the customer, although in our USSR in 000 years 8 Akula-type boats were put into operation and they have a displacement of 6 tons

[PREDATOR.77]

Do not be shy, the displacement of the "Shark" is even "a little bit" more. About half

[desava]

Half is underwater (48 tons). If we already compare the displacement (actually mass), then in the surface. Why consider water in the Central City Hospital? Then they enter the same class in terms of tonnage.

[Specialforce]

It’s good that ships are being built for the Russian fleet - the question is: where are they built and who are they paying for the construction !?
... shame on those bastards who ruined the great military-industrial complex!

[Alexey Prikazchikov]

After the fight they don’t wave their fists. All prosrali now need to be restored. The USSR also bought equipment at first, then we sold it, so do we, give the eagle time to grow ...

[Specialforce]

Here I am about the same!

[Alexey Prikazchikov]

Ahh sorry I didn’t understand you at the beginning. By the way infa passed that the mysterious money of the olinarchs was bought, I don’t know if it was right, but if that's so cool.

[Satanail]

Chels, mistral.
Chelsea would not be offended for the power
Mistral to protect bags of money))))

[starred]

Sons!
The cool thing is that this piece of iron will be stuffed with "bookmarks" and "bought" with budget money !!!
A good target for tomahawks ...

[Denis]

Quote: Alexey Prikazchikov

By the way infa passed that the mystical money of the olinarchs bought

are you kidding?
it's not Chelsea or 3000 pairs of shoes, these guys are more likely to strangle themselves

[Sergh]

Well fuck, digging something

The advance we received a few weeks ago.

it’s already the first time to hand over ... the tanks are waiting on the shore.

[Satanail]

They buy equipment to repeat and improve ... Unless, of course, the scientific and technological potential allows. It allows us, I am also a whale. Therefore, they bought tigers, tanks. The weapons purchased also show the weakness of the product they bought and how to deal with it. The USSR bought weapons in many countries except the United States (after the war period) the United States did not sell, only the old, we did not care about rubbish .. Having bought the USSR, it was studied to the cogs ... The United States, the Euro, Japan, Korea, India, and China do the same. ....

[Alexey Prikazchikov]

Under the terms of the contract ALL technologies are surrendered. 2 Mistrals will be built in France; 2 in Russia; now, with the help of French specialists, French shipbuilders are creating a shipyard and plants producing components; the main condition of the contract is the same as with Italian armored cars; .

[Denis]

Quote: Alexey Prikazchikov

in Russia, right now in the Russian Federation with the help of French specialists create a shipyard

What purpose? The Baltic plant, which did far from conversion pans, is not loaded with work now
and the French, although maybe I’m missing something, have never been famous shipbuilders

[77bor1973]

not true, only "Algerie" was worth what ...

[Alex63]

I'm afraid we will not soon read that at a shipyard, for example in Kaliningrad, the construction of a new cruiser (helicopter carrier, frigate, etc., etc.) has begun. LLC "Serdyukov and Co" is stubbornly looking for an opportunity to chop up "bucks". One of the ways is to sabotage the development of our military-industrial complex and purchase foreign hardware. The only question is: what clever electronics will France, under the leadership of NATO and the United States, stuff these "miracle ships" with? And then our sailor will go to the toilet, fart, and in some NATO laboratory the whole alignment of the composition of the air that has left the body of this sailor will come out. I am sure that the entire ship will be stuffed with spy electronics. But is it possible to install such equipment that, on command from NATO, can generally block individual systems or the entire ship as a whole?

[itr]

I agree the more our military-industrial complex is inundated with orders, it won’t pull it all at once, but time does not wait

[Nick]

As one of my peasant acquaintances used to say, "It doesn't matter whose bull with my cow slept, the main thing is that the calf will be mine."

[Vadivak]

Quote: SpecialFors

It’s good that ships are being built for the Russian fleet - the question is: where are they built and who are paid for the construction!

February 11, 1940, For 104 million Reichsmarks, the USSR bought in Germany the heavy cruiser "Lutzow" ["Lutzow"]), the main goal is acquaintance with advanced technologies, bought together with the engineers who were engaged in its completion in the USSR

[Specialforce]

(Vadivak) It was a good maneuver! What is in our case in France: what goals are we pursuing now ?!

[Vadivak]

Quote: SpecialFors

What is in our case in France: what goals are we pursuing now ?!

1. Politics here I think it’s understandable, gas and the French, forging relations with Russia is important in that the developing relations between Berlin and Moscow are not left behind
2. transfer to Russia of technologies used in the construction of Mistrals, plus the purchase of automated control systems (automated control systems) from the Norwegian company L3 Valmarine, which are located on the Mistrals built for the French Navy However, we are not talking about independent production of automated control systems, but this is and it’s not important to get this filling.

[Specialforce]

(Vadivak) "1. Politics here, I think it is clear, gas and the French, establishing ties with Russia is important in the sense that the developing relations between Berlin and Moscow are not left on the sidelines"

What role does Berlin (the capital of Germany) play in this paragraph or is it a typo (Paris)?

[Satanail]

Berlin is the main resource partner with Russia in Europe. The paddlers also wanted to. They decided to equalize their attitude and become like Germany for us. But there is one thing, you won’t send gas and nafta through France, only Germany or Poland. You can play on the crisis greed of the European Jews and bargain for something profitable for us, at the same time to quarrel them, among others, ideally from the USA ..

[figwam]

Well, now it's too late to turn on the "rear", so we ordered it now. I wonder what these ships of the Russian fleet will be called?

[Nick]

Normandy Neman.

[maksim]

can be called "VICTORY" for a start, as in the famous cartoon about Admiral Vrungel

[Vadivak]

Quote: maksim

as in the famous cartoon about Admiral Vrungel

No, there then another imechko formed

[Kaetani]

Through the bunny .. to the stars. Vrungel is our sailor and through the whole garbage came with a victory, even on the Bede. So everything will be alright

[Satanail]

Ivan the fool and the connecting rod Bear, who has other options?

[vadimus]

Build quickly, however! Could hurry with us too ...

[Pavel V]

Construction of the first ship begins. It will be completed in 2014, the second in 2015 "

Unfortunately, no elections are planned for either 2014 or 2015, and money tends to run out very quickly. How many cases were there that before the date "X" everyone was promised everything and even the N-th amount was allocated at first, and then everything became dull "like in a tank." It would not work out the same now.

[Vadivak]

Quote: Pavel V

Unfortunately, no elections are planned for 2014 or 2015,

I did not think about this before your post ......

[Samsebenaum]

It hurts patriotic feelings. Truth?
Well, and why is this clumsy French floating base better than our forgotten experimental ekranoplanes?

[Satanail]

A lot of fuel is required! Although the idea is great! Especially "Caspian Monster"

[PSih2097]

I don’t know about the ekranoplans, but the Ivan Tarava project 11780 is better ... only finalize the electronics and that's all ... Although everything is natural, the GRU was disbanded (they were cooler than the Chinese in technology delivery).

[Satanail]

They are in different categories. An ekranoplan is rather an amphibious assault or a transport one, as an aircraft carrier cannot function. This physical is not possible, and if you achieve the desired result, then the absurd awakens. Enter the commentary, I realized that the ekranoplan-aircraft carrier is the fastest aircraft carrier, it can float on the water! Hey constructor! repeat "monster" In the demonstration video, he was able to carry a group of aircraft. Just imagine, it also launches planes with rockets past the bush at a speed of 500 km / h !!! The United States will immediately get scared and think, take everything from our borders. This will give us an edge!

[Specialforce]

When was the GRU disbanded and why?

[petor41]

Do not pay attention, did not disband anyone! Here, if you read the comments, you will learn so much new, and the GRU was disbanded and Putin was a CIA agent and the original of Hitler’s agreement with Satan was found in Russian

[bashkort]

No, it’s normal that we take these pelvis from the French. Although it would be better to scuba gear - their seaman only scuba diving and glorious, and even then it was a long time ago)))

[Konstantm]

Someday they will be called "Putin's Toy" ....

[PSih2097]

Not, Fleet Admiral's Yacht (KBF, Pacific Fleet, etc.)

[wow]

The German-French are our old enemy friends. Antique and very predictable. So it is better to build relationships with such enemy friends than with all sorts of "brothers" such as Poles, Czechs and other Hungarians. Less shit will be poured over our heads later, as a token of gratitude. Who is against, please look at the monuments to our soldiers in today's Germany and France and compare them with the same objects in Poland, Czechoslovakia and Hungary, and even in "brotherly" Bulgaria.

[Concept1]

Mistral is also politics.
Two birds with one stone are killed here:
Establish cooperation in the military-technical
plan with the EU is good!
And they decide the country's defense ability.
The French will build ships quickly and efficiently, because they did not have a restructuring !!!!!!!!!!!
And the fact that our scientists and engineers have no limits to problems that can be solved by complexity, I have no doubt !!!!!

[Satanail]

Establish cooperation in the military-technical
plan with the EU is good! What for? Everything else is clear ..

[Concept1]

What would be more common interests !!!
These are far-reaching plans, today we bought, tomorrow we have them!

[Satanail]

Why should they buy from us? I would not sell them, especially technology

[sprut]

I wonder how there will be all kinds of spy sensors ...

[Satanail]

When they laid the old stadium in Grozny, they planted explosives back in the 70s .. in 90 they blew up ....

[nnnnnnnnn]

The total value of the contract is 1,2 billion euros. Now I understand why the Russian Federation came out with a request to the countries of the Customs Union to introduce a zero tariff tariff on the import of warships

[Specialforce]

Russia will close the tender for the purchase of helicopter carriers

The Russian Ministry of Defense will announce the start date of the tender for the supply of helicopter carriers for the Navy within the next month. This, as reported by RIA Novosti, said Russian Defense Minister Anatoly Serdyukov. "Most likely, it will be closed," the minister said, adding that invitations to participate in the competition will be received by Russian and foreign shipbuilding companies.
Serdyukov did not specify the names of the companies to which the invitations will be sent, but said that the United Shipbuilding Corporation (USC) would be allowed to participate in the tender. The Russian Defense Minister also did not specify the cost at which it is planned to purchase helicopter carriers. "We will study, evaluate. We will attract experts, not only Russian, but also foreign ones," Serdyukov said, adding that the department expects "a price structure" from the French side.
In mid-August 2010, Russian media reported that USC had obtained from the Russian Ministry of Defense an open tender for the purchase of helicopter carriers. An open tender implies the possibility of any shipbuilding company participating in it, while a closed one only applies to companies that receive a special invitation. The preparation and conduct of the tender will be handled by a special commission created by the Russian military department. Who will lead the commission is still unknown.
Judging by the fragmentary statements of various Russian officials previously heard in the press, Dutch and Spanish companies may take part in the tender, which will present helicopter carriers of the Johann de Witt and Juan Carlos class, respectively. The Far East shipyard Zvezda, St. Petersburg's Admiralty Shipyards, Kaliningrad's Yantar, Severnaya Verf and the Baltic Shipyard may take part in the competition from Russian companies.
Zvezda has already established a joint venture with the South Korean concern Daewoo Marine Shipbuilding & Engineering. This joint venture will offer the Dokto helicopter carrier for the tender.
Of greatest interest to Russia is the French helicopter carrier, which the military is planning to purchase since 2009. Official negotiations on this issue began on March 2, 2010. If the deal is completed, the Mistral will be handed over to Russia without radars, weapons and the SENIT9 information and control system, which allows it to control the disparate forces of NATO countries.
In April 2010, it became known that the Russian government had made the final decision to purchase French Mistral-class helicopter carriers. At the same time, Mikhail Dmitriev, director of the Federal Service for Military-Technical Cooperation, said that the deal could be concluded by the end of 2010. The cost of one French ship is estimated at 400-500 million euros. The Russian Defense Ministry plans to acquire one finished ship and three licenses for the construction of helicopter carriers in Russia.

Source www.lenta.ru
Taken from the site:
http://www.voiska.ru/index.php?ind=news&op=news_show_single&ide=208

[PSih2097]

The cost of one French ship is estimated at 400-500 million euros.

Then where did the figure 2.4 KKK + come from for 4 barges, if we buy, then from the South Koreans, since we can’t do it, it’s cheaper and more technological + our turntables will certainly go there without processing the height of the decks ... plus, they suddenly resume 141, you can also shove it in there ... and it looks more brutal ...

[Alexey Prikazchikov]

OH from Amerov’s components if that Pindos block us access and all.

[Specialforce]

I look at the images of the ships and I see only a box, with little or no suitable sites for installing various equipment (reconnaissance, defensive)
Then we will finish building ourselves!? ..

[starred]

We sell this crap without filling, you know what ...
Try to place our devices on these fasteners, our helicopters - differing in size, and do not fit into the elevators.
Yes, these are just great targets for tomahawks! ...
It would be better to build 2 aircraft carriers with a nuclear power plant ...
They are collaborators ..., do not have illusions, sons!

[Kyrgyz]

Everything is agreed there and the conditions for protection against ice and the size of compartments and equipment

[starred]

Better to be an ordinary than the wise general !!!
This is me about the rating ...

[Boot under the carpet]

In France, the start of cutting Russian money and licking the diplomatic anus of Sarkozy.

[Dad]

That's what we got in 91 for "freedom". Freedom from conscience and honor. The collapse of industry and the military-industrial complex, in particular, is the consequence.

[Denis]

Quote: Dad

This is what we got in 91 for "freedom".

Do you need this "freedom!"

[Kyrgyz]

And here it is said that we will only cook the shells
http://lenta.ru/news/2011/12/02/mistrail/
What will our participation look like in the end?