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Invested in American securities. "Shaw, again? .."

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The trend of last year, which hinted at a phased refusal of the state to invest Russian savings in American valuable (or rather, debt) securities, suddenly changed to the opposite, which by definition could not be a reason for discussion in Russia. If you believe the statistics of the Ministry of Finance of the Russian Federation, from November 2014 to November 2015, the volume of investments in American securities decreased from $ 108,9 billion to about $ 82 billion. It seemed that such investments would be minimized, and Russian government economists would find new, more efficient and adequate routes for investment. However, the new report says that at the end of the year, investments in American candy wrappers increased again. The increase was approximately 7%. By December 2015, the infusion of US “valuable” notes reached 88 billions of dollars.


Invested in American securities. "Shaw, again? .."


Before proceeding to discuss this fact, it is worth looking at a few more figures. So, 82 billion dollars of Russian investments in American securities is not at least in 2014-2015 years. It was also less - for example, in April 2015, when the Ministry of Finance named the amount of investments at the level of 66,5 billion dollars.

Based on these data, we find that a kind of game is being conducted with American bonds. This game consists in the fact that, first, bonds of several tens of billions of dollars are “dumped”, while in fact the American candy wrappers are immediately acquired again, albeit for a slightly smaller amount. But not always for less ... The main question is: for what purpose do Russian government economists play such a game?
Naturally, I would like to believe that the game “to dump more - buy less” is aimed at putting the American partners to sleep. Russia continues to buy American securities ... As if ... In the meantime, this fact warms the souls of American economists, the volume of Russian investments is gradually decreasing.

However, this assumption does not look like the truth for the simple reason that overseas are sitting in chairs: a) not idiots not to catch this tendency, and b) that 88 billion, that 108 billion for the American economy is not that amount , which will play a significant role, if 7% is taken away from this sum or the same 7% is added to it. For example, China invests much more thoroughly in the American economy - in American securities of Chinese money alone, more than 1,25 trillion dollars! If the Celestial Empire carried out about a third of the investment, then on Wall Street it would really cause significant confusion ... And here (unfortunately or fortunately), it is not the same scale ...

It turns out that games with investments in US securities are really games, but only aimed at trying, so to speak, to obtain local dividends - for example, with the dollar rising to the ruble. And all this is very similar to a kind of mathematical casino, in which Russian economists are trying to win something, considering the change in currency balances from dumping and buying currency, as well as from investments in the aforementioned American securities. And, perhaps, the word “casino” here can be considered key, because one chance for thousands of receiving a really solid win, but there are much more chances of getting out (or carrying out) of a player’s casino, sorry, with a bare ass ...

In this connection, another question is born: how well do such games fit in tightly with the real sector of the economy? Who specifically can benefit not investing billions of reserve or budget funds in education, industrial production and high technology, but in paper cut into even rectangles that has come out of the hands of the American "partner"? Yes, even if these papers tomorrow will bring income exceeding the rate of inflation a couple of times, can this be considered a success of the Russian economic sector? There is an assumption that with real success there is little in common, for bringing in income, already tomorrow this very tool of economic speculation will take away all the “profits” in favor of the very “partner” that the colored paper has cut. It was for this purpose that the instrument was created: one gain to the holder of the securities, one hundred gains to the one who printed these papers.

If this is one of strategies economic leadership of the state, then, frankly, all the recent conversations about some kind of mobilization economy look ridiculous. Well, what kind of a mobilization economy can be, when investments in the financial system of a state that has become the actual author of economic pressure on Russia, are still being made under loud statements about economic feasibility and shouting “fyfsenprofessionals” —is better silent. ”

One thing is clear - the Russian economy is involved in globalization. In principle, there is nothing demonic here. One thing is alarming: all sorts of (currency, “paper”, etc.) speculations remain on the site of the sacred cow of the Russian economy, but the role of the real sector is at best somewhere in the crowd scene ...
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  1. Korsar4
    Korsar4 22 January 2016 06: 30 New
    54
    The summary is convincing. Unfortunately so long ago. The period of games in T-bills and the like does not end there.
    1. dmi.pris
      dmi.pris 22 January 2016 06: 48 New
      +3
      With such a resume, one is not ashamed to appear in the State Department or the "supernumerary" Ministry of Finance ...
      Quote: Korsar4
      The summary is convincing. Unfortunately so long ago. The period of games in T-bills and the like does not end there.
    2. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 22 January 2016 06: 55 New
      +5
      just a stock market game, nothing more, no clandestine strategies and "lulling" "partners", business, nothing personal.
      1. PHANTOM-AS
        PHANTOM-AS 22 January 2016 08: 36 New
        104
        Just 25 years ago, speculators came to power, not creators.
        1. dorogvalera
          dorogvalera 22 January 2016 11: 58 New
          63
          What are the speculators? which speculator will put money at 2% (conventionally 1,5-2,75%) per year? The Americans will buy oil at $ 30 instead of $ 100 per barrel, for our $ 100 billion, and will earn three times, these are speculators and creators. And we will get oil, sell it for 100 billion, and give our uncle 100 billion at 2%. some kind of shitty math. And they could build roads, factories, "mistrals", give this money to our capitalists, albeit at 5%, since Western banks do not give it because of the sanctions. In short, something is not right in the "Danish" kingdom.
          1. tol100v
            tol100v 22 January 2016 15: 56 New
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            Quote: dorogvalera
            ... In short, something is not right in the "Danish" kingdom.

            Yes, something needs to be changed at the Conservatory! Or the rector, or the notes!
            1. Saratoga833
              Saratoga833 22 January 2016 16: 14 New
              13
              Quote: Tol100v
              Or rector, or sheet music!

              Better the rector!
              1. kunstkammer
                kunstkammer 23 January 2016 02: 11 New
                +7
                notes, by the way, are also not the same ....
                but in general, all this resembles Gambling.
                By the way definition:
                Gambling (gambling addiction, gambling addiction, gambling addiction) is a type of psychological addiction, it consists in the need for gambling, and interest in material, family, and social values ​​is lost.
                Doesn’t resemble anything? Complete loss of interest in their country. Cut money faster - and run to the casino.
            2. Alf
              Alf 22 January 2016 21: 39 New
              10
              Quote: Tol100v
              Yes, something needs to be changed at the Conservatory! Or the rector, or the notes!

              It would be nice to bring the ENTIRE Conservatory under the "Hurricane", and then start building a normal state.
            3. Pilgrim07
              Pilgrim07 22 January 2016 22: 31 New
              +3
              Both!
              And disinfect the Conservatory.
          2. Spnsr
            Spnsr 22 January 2016 23: 00 New
            +1
            Quote: dorogvalera
            ... And they could build roads, factories, "mistrals", give this money to our capitalists, albeit at 5%, since Western banks do not give it because of the sanctions. In short, something is not right in the "Danish" kingdom.

            only more often, given at 5% to someone for the construction of the Mistrals, this money runs away outside the Russian Federation, or in speculation in foreign currency, which allows an entrepreneurial entrepreneur not to steal, as in the first case, and then invest, and still earn pocket money. ..
            in general, I think that this is bad, because the money does not go anywhere, but one thing, investing in the currency, gives an incentive for its growth, maybe some leaps in the foreign exchange market are due to this, but there are other types of investments, let the growth not big, but it would be better not to delay the salary and make timely deductions to the PF and tax!
          3. trenkkvaz
            trenkkvaz 23 January 2016 19: 44 New
            +1
            Quote: dorogvalera
            What are the speculators? which speculator will put money at 2% (conventionally 1,5-2,75%) per year? The Americans will buy oil at $ 30 instead of $ 100 per barrel, for our $ 100 billion, and will earn three times, these are speculators and creators. And we will get oil, sell it for 100 billion, and give our uncle 100 billion at 2%. some kind of shitty math. And they could build roads, factories, "mistrals", give this money to our capitalists, albeit at 5%, since Western banks do not give it because of the sanctions. In short, something is not right in the "Danish" kingdom.


            The state needs liquid assets. You can sell American bonds at any time if you urgently need money to cover the same budget deficit. If you squander this money on loans, you won’t be able to get it when you need it. But knowing how we have arranged the issuance of loans and their cancellation. So you can be sure that part of the state money will be lost altogether.

            And in general, why did someone decide that American bonds are evil? If you have assets in dollars, then you already support the US economy. Therefore, it doesn’t matter if you exchange one piece of American paper for another.
        2. saturn.mmm
          saturn.mmm 22 January 2016 18: 42 New
          -5
          Quote: PHANTOM-AS
          Just 25 years ago, speculators came to power, not creators.

          And in 90 in Kaliningrad, everything was just noisy, from food only fish, even dumplings with squid, which is either expensive to buy only at the market, I remember, I remember the sunset of the USSR.
          1. Alf
            Alf 22 January 2016 21: 42 New
            +6
            Quote: saturn.mmm
            from food, only fish, even dumplings with squid,

            But now dumplings with meat. But it's better not to recognize the composition of the "meat" in order to avoid throwing it out.
            1. Pilgrim07
              Pilgrim07 22 January 2016 22: 33 New
              +2
              who breaks your hands? there are dozens of varieties on the counter! you then the general could already pick up your favorite dumplings with real meat.
              1. saltickov.
                saltickov. 23 January 2016 14: 36 New
                +3
                These ten varieties from one vat do not flatter yourself greatly.
                1. go21zd45few
                  go21zd45few 23 January 2016 14: 51 New
                  +3
                  Like alcohol, the names of different eyes scatter and spill from one barrel.
            2. saturn.mmm
              saturn.mmm 22 January 2016 23: 50 New
              +2
              Quote: Alf
              But now dumplings with meat. But it's better not to recognize the composition of the "meat" in order to avoid throwing it out.
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              Alf, I won’t say that you have dumplings there now, you haven’t been there since then, but you shouldn’t glorify him for 90 years either.
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          2. Pilgrim07
            Pilgrim07 22 January 2016 22: 32 New
            +3
            such "abundance" was then throughout the country. I lived in one of the republics, so they took everything at the bazaar.
        3. Spnsr
          Spnsr 22 January 2016 22: 44 New
          0
          All the same, one can admit a thought, there are purchases at a price of at least!
          at the time of the ruble’s growth, this slows down its growth, which goes into the subject of a request, to hold “currency at such a cost” for three years ® - the quote is not verbatim, but there was a tivi moment, the news showed how at some forum they addressed the GDP with such a request ...
          in such moments as last week, this allows you to restrain growth, in view of the falling demand from the population, statements by the gref, like someone from VTB, and the central bank, just yesterday, statements, and the beginning of the movement of the price of oil, gives a signal to drain the currency ....
          You just need to know where these amounts are from, with pf, or pledged payments, i.e. budget...
          and nobody will break green, this is a “collapse” of many state-investors, investors, but the growth of green can put pressure on the domestic production of the green producer
          and another effect for us is the change of the “iron curtain” of the USSR, the currency curtain, which helps to curb the tourist flow from here, and contributes to the growth of the tourist flow here!
          there is still a moment, I don’t know how it works, but it happens that in order for Russia to turn on the machine to print the ruble, you need to buy cabbage - maybe this is the cause and effect, buying currency, or that secured by green, gives growth relative to our currency, when selling currencies to get the ruble, for the needs for which it was printed, we immediately get the amount printed, plus a percentage of growth!
          IMHO!
        4. Starik72
          Starik72 23 January 2016 14: 58 New
          +2
          No FANTOM-AS, 25 years ago thieves and bandits came to power, who first plundered and robbed, and then turned into speculators, because in order to speculate you need a good start-up capital, which these jackals got by stealing and robbing.
      2. Cube123
        Cube123 22 January 2016 09: 04 New
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        In December there was a stage of large payments on foreign currency loans. Perhaps in November they simply created reserves for these payments. According to the results of one month, nothing can be judged in the economy.

        http://www.interfax.ru/business/459120

        http://global-finances.ru/vyiplatyi-rossii-po-vneshnim-dolgam-v-2015-godu/
        "In the 4th quarter of 2015, external payments are expected in the amount of up to 42,410 billion dollars, of which 36,809 billion are the repayment of the principal debt, 5.601 billion are interest on it.

        Monthly repayment schedule:

        in October - 8,848 billion dollars (6.990 - the main debt, 1.858 - interest);
        in November - 8,957 billion dollars (7.551 - the main debt, 1.406 - interest);
        in December - 24,605 billion dollars (22,268 - the main debt, 2.337 - interest).

        Thus, the peaks of Russia's external debt payments will fall on February-March, June, September and December 2015. "
        1. aba
          aba 22 January 2016 21: 01 New
          +7
          In December there was a stage of large payments on foreign currency loans.

          That’s how interesting it is: sanctions are imposed on us so that we cannot fulfill our obligations. But we are fulfilling. Or can it also introduce retaliatory sanctions and send all the creditors who supported the sanctions against us?
          1. saturn.mmm
            saturn.mmm 22 January 2016 23: 58 New
            +1
            Quote: aba
            Or can it also introduce retaliatory sanctions and send all the creditors who supported the sanctions against us?

            It is possible when there is its own economy, and when it does not have what to do, after all, they have been engaged in ananism since 2008, because Russia buys everything from the West except oil and gas.
      3. Vend
        Vend 22 January 2016 09: 39 New
        21
        Quote: Andrew Y.
        just a stock market game, nothing more, no clandestine strategies and "lulling" "partners", business, nothing personal.

        A bit more complicated. Here is the Russian publicist Nikolai Starikov explaining in detail the relationship of economic processes in the world:

        “Today's financially-oriented global economy is built on a fundamental principle that proclaims a steady increase in the money supply. World bankers, having gained access to printing money from nowhere, all the time, this money is printed, they need to create demand. The problem is that this money has been created so much that there are so many resources in the world, therefore it is necessary to create so-called bubbles where money is being pumped.

        But more and more money, they need to be linked, and the role of such a “link” was played by oil prices. Now the geopolitical situation has changed, the Americans see that with high oil prices, Russia has enough funds, for example, to rearm the army. Therefore, Americans are dropping oil prices so that Russia does not have money.

        At this point, the stock market also begins to collapse, because the decline in the price of oil leads to an automatic appreciation of the dollar against other currencies. Judging by the collapse of the indices on the stock exchange, the United States prepared a global crisis. What should investors and speculators, who decided to save their money in dollars, do? The Fed raises the bet and shows them what to do.

        Invest in US bonds. Yes, they are expensive, but reliable. The markets are falling, but there are no American bonds. You will not lose money, at least, but also get some percentage. That is, the Americans, collapsing the markets, in addition to strangling Russia, also create demand for their treasures - debt obligations, and thereby support the colossal pyramid of debt that they have.

        But the sad consequences begin from this scenario. All investors in the world go into dollars and stop any activity, because, firstly, it is not clear, secondly, it’s scary, and thirdly, there are American bonds. As a result, the whole economy rises in the world. Collapsing oil prices, creating a huge mass of unsecured money, trying to tie it through its debt obligations, the United States stops the economy on a global scale, that is, they are strangling themselves. But this cannot go on for long. ”
        Something like this.
        1. Gomunkul
          Gomunkul 22 January 2016 09: 48 New
          +2
          What to do to investors and speculators who decided to save their money in dollars?
          If you feel like it, I recommend watching the American movie "The Falling Game", which tells how the American mortgage-backed securities market was created. And why did the 2008 crisis arisegood
          1. Conductor
            Conductor 22 January 2016 11: 03 New
            -23 qualifying.
            Yes, everything goes according to plan, the work is still no end ...
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            2. Smirnov Vadim
              Smirnov Vadim 23 January 2016 05: 59 New
              +7
              Quote: Explorer
              Yes, everything goes according to plan, the work is still no end ...


              Here is the original!
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        3. avdkrd
          avdkrd 22 January 2016 10: 47 New
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          Quote: Wend
          A bit more complicated. Here is the Russian publicist Nikolai Starikov explaining in detail the relationship of economic processes in the world:

          Strength of old men! He and Glazyev in the government would have forgotten about the crisis as a bad dream. Russia is self-sufficient. This is not about self-isolation, but about self-management of the economy. Starikov correctly says that while pursuing an independent foreign policy, one cannot continue to play by THEIR rules in the economy. The current liberal government can (and should) be sent to the camps as a whole, simultaneously confiscating foreign real estate and accounts in Western banks. ALL government plays on the side of the West. Medvedev rushes about privatization (Chubais's laurels haunt), Livanov drives the final nails into Russian education, Ulyukaev, together with the Central Bank of the Russian Federation, is pursuing such a monetary policy that even "partners" are surprised at the underestimation of the ruble.
          More and more often I recall a historical tale when they spoke about Nicholas II, the tsar is good, just ministers and bloodsucking officials, they don’t tell the tsar the truth .....
          1. Altona
            Altona 22 January 2016 13: 16 New
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            Quote: avdkrd
            The current liberal government can (and should) be sent to the camps with its entire staff, simultaneously confiscating foreign real estate and accounts in Western banks. ALL government plays on the side of the West. Medvedev rushes about privatization (Chubais's laurels haunt), Livanov drives the final nails into Russian education, Ulyukaev, together with the Central Bank of the Russian Federation, is pursuing such a monetary policy that even "partners" are surprised at the underestimation of the ruble.

            -------------------------------------
            It seems that we are controlled by a corporation of bastards, the third day I read essays about our figures in the Government. There’s nowhere to put stigmas, only rogues.

            http://delyagin.livejournal.com
          2. tol100v
            tol100v 22 January 2016 16: 02 New
            +4
            Quote: avdkrd
            , you can’t continue to play according to THEIR rules in the economy.

            To play by their rules, especially when these rules are changed during the game - this is simple suicide.
      4. aba
        aba 22 January 2016 20: 58 New
        +1
        ... business is nothing personal.
        This is nothing personally with us, while other high ones may have it differently. And even more so.
    3. Very old
      Very old 22 January 2016 08: 29 New
      18
      And the initiators of this need to "finish"
      In no way will the young reformers calm down (!) The tea is not small already
      1. Gardamir
        Gardamir 22 January 2016 10: 41 New
        12
        young (!) reformers
        how are you about the president. or in your opinion he is not in the know or cannot influence. So why is this needed if nothing can? Only in my opinion is this his conscious position.
        1. Very old
          Very old 22 January 2016 11: 16 New
          +2
          young (!) ........
          they appeared BEFORE
          and the president is not included in their "cohort"
          Something like that, Gardamir hi
          1. Gardamir
            Gardamir 22 January 2016 12: 49 New
            22
            Something like this,
            Of course, I got into a little bad excuse. but we are discussing today's politics, economics, culture. And all that is happening now in the country is being led by the people of Putin. This is the first time he had different Kasyanovs. But now the presidential administration and the government, these are all people personally selected by ourselves. And as we know, he does not like to change people. Let it be as it is. The President is quite satisfied with Livanov in education, Nabiullina in the bank, the twins Siluanov-Ulyukaev in the economy. Therefore, scold alone and not notice that. who put them somehow stupid you forgive me.
            1. Saratoga833
              Saratoga833 22 January 2016 16: 18 New
              +1
              Quote: Gardamir
              Togo. who set them

              Here it is in the first place and must be changed! And then you can take on the rest!
            2. gladcu2
              gladcu2 22 January 2016 21: 59 New
              +2
              Gardamir

              I do not think that GDP has a wide choice for responsible positions. There is no staff growth system.
        2. Makk
          Makk 22 January 2016 17: 49 New
          +2
          how are you about the president. or in your opinion he is not in the know or cannot influence. So why is this needed if nothing can? Only in my opinion is this his conscious position.

          The question arises. Choose a Russian president or appoint?
    4. Gormenghast
      Gormenghast 22 January 2016 10: 37 New
      +1
      Is it possible to play with cheaters?
    5. Max_Bauder
      Max_Bauder 22 January 2016 11: 53 New
      +5
      Quote: Korsar4
      The summary is convincing. Unfortunately so long ago.


      Starikov has already spoken about this, the Central Bank does nothing but harm Russia. While the oligarchs are in power (except for Putin) nothing good will happen to the ruble, they only defend their "investments" over the hill.

      PySy. The backfill question - why not be a patriotic oligarch instead of a treacherous one? Is it corny because there is no honest and conscientious businessman by definition? how can a Jew not be a miner? Really right, Yakov Kedmi, who said that the bargainer would even sell his own mother for profit?
      1. iConst
        iConst 22 January 2016 12: 10 New
        +9
        Quote: Max_Bauder
        PySy. The backfill question - why not be a patriotic oligarch instead of a treacherous one? Is it corny because there is no honest and conscientious businessman by definition?
        - Roughly speaking, yes.

        You don’t naively think that you can get billions of dollars worth of fortunes in just a decade and a half and still not enclose someone (for reference: someone is all of us)?

        And then: suppose that one of the oligarchs, at the end of the debriefing, decided to atone for the sins.
        Do you think how he will do it? Just give away your billions? But billions are not cash.

        Where is the cash stored? He simply won’t get it - there are precedents when the capital withdrawn to Western banks under various pretexts did not allow returning it under Russian jurisdiction.

        So the oligarch patriot is a utopia ... I would sayпopium ... laughing
        1. sa-ag
          sa-ag 22 January 2016 13: 12 New
          0
          Quote: iConst
          Is it corny because there is no honest and conscientious businessman by definition?

          I know one such, his name was Alhen :-)
      2. Hon
        Hon 22 January 2016 12: 51 New
        +9
        Quote: Max_Bauder
        The oligarchs are still in power (except for Putin)

        and Putin, what stands out among the rest?
      3. Altona
        Altona 22 January 2016 13: 20 New
        +5
        Quote: Max_Bauder
        The backfill question - why not be a patriotic oligarch instead of a treacherous one?

        ----------------------
        Because the global financial system belongs to the United States, and in any case, going to the highest financial line, you will have to interact with Western financial institutions. And there they will tell you who you are in this life, asking extremely simple questions "where is your money from?" and "are you ready to cooperate with us on our terms?" That's all...
      4. Alf
        Alf 22 January 2016 21: 47 New
        +3
        Quote: Max_Bauder
        Is it corny because there is no honest and conscientious businessman by definition?

        An honest conscientious businessman-oligarch is something like:
        1. A vegetarian shark.
        2. The manager of the virgin brothel.
      5. gladcu2
        gladcu2 22 January 2016 22: 08 New
        +2
        Max

        , Because integration into the international banking system and capitals do not have a national identity. These capitals even to owners belong conditionally. While they play by the imposed rules.
    6. hrapon
      hrapon 22 January 2016 12: 39 New
      +9
      Quote: Korsar4
      The summary is convincing. Unfortunately so long ago. The period of games in T-bills and the like does not end there.


      And such a simple (lying on the surface) idea that a short-term investment in the UST is currently only a necessity to maintain a normal balance of payments for servicing the public debt did not occur to the author?

      As of October 2015, the total public debt (including commercial debts) is approximately 535 billion US dollars, including the net debt of the Russian Federation - 50 billion.

      The ratio of assets in the currency of payment - 88 billion. USD and the amount of public debt in the amount of 50 billion. USD plus interest - ensure the financial stability of the borrower.

      Kudrin's policy of "fat years" and what is being done today have nothing in common. During 2013-2015, the share of gold and foreign exchange reserves denominated in UST has been consistently and at a fairly high rate declining, and the share of physical gold is increasing. As of October 2015 - almost 1,4 thousand tons of gold.

      To the author of the article: Alexei, if you position yourself as a writing person (I don’t know if you consider yourself a journalist), write about real problems. They are not enough. There are really hot questions.
      For example, there has been a lot of talk recently about supporting small businesses. They even created a state corporation to support the MB led by Braverman (a colleague of Chubais). What did they really do? What are you doing?
      This is a really sensitive issue. In the current economic situation, urgent measures are needed to REALLY support the start and development of small businesses. "Support of Russia", which has straddled this topic, can give birth to nothing but an "old song" about reducing the number of checks. But one of the key problems is the rent of production, retail and office space for small businesses. Office center owners are rampaging rental rates every 11 months and are effectively "grounding" anyone who tries to start a business. Everyone is silent about this.

      Alexey, investigate this issue. Write about it. It will be useful. And "podzuzhivat" people, making dubious stuffing, is not beautiful.

      Sincerely.
      1. Volodin
        22 January 2016 14: 21 New
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        Quote: hrapon
        Short-term investment in UST is currently only a necessity to maintain a normal balance of payments to service public debt, the author did not think


        Do not believe it - came. And immediately the analogy was born: to maintain the balance of payments of the USSR, it was in 1942 that year it decided to invest in the securities of the Third Reich ...

        Russia actually declared war, and you are talking about some kind of balance on the basis of American securities. Or, for the Russian economy, the only way to maintain the balance of payments (as well as growth, too) is associated with investing in the US currency and US bonds?

        And "podzuzhivat" people, making questionable stuffing, is not beautiful.

        What is the "stuffing in"? The fact that the material contains the Treasury's figures on the next investments in US securities? But...
        1. My address
          My address 22 January 2016 16: 40 New
          +1
          Dear Alexey!
          Do not pay attention. The man is sincere, but does not understand what it is about. Yes, even his words:
          The ratio of assets in the currency of payment - 88 billion. USD and the amount of public debt in the amount of 50 billion. USD plus interest - ensure the financial stability of the borrower.
          Well, what for is this stability to us, especially after the imposition of sanctions and when the economy collapses? Konstantin does not see the forest behind the trees. To put it simply, he does not see the absurdity of the situation described in the proverb: "Give your wife to your uncle, and yourself by the swans."
        2. Lev Gurych
          Lev Gurych 22 January 2016 17: 01 New
          +1
          Whether we like it or not, the dollar is the world currency. The main one. And it is quite reasonable, to a certain limit, to have gold and foreign exchange reserves in it. Comparison with the Reichsmark is not at all appropriate.
          As a result of the "fat years" we have accumulated quite large cash assets. It would be the height of folly to "eat" them or spend them all at once. In order to preserve them, they invest in short-term UST. Under%, exceeding inflation. As for "new, more efficient and adequate routes for investment", they have long been known to everyone - this is the military-industrial complex, which is the "locomotive" of the economy. Unfortunately, the amount of untapped funds there is gigantic, but, as they say, this is a topic for another conversation.
          1. saturn.mmm
            saturn.mmm 22 January 2016 19: 01 New
            +6
            Quote: LevGurych
            Whether we like it or not, the dollar is the world currency. The main one.

            Develop your economy and it will be us for all world currencies.
            1. hrapon
              hrapon 23 January 2016 10: 25 New
              +1
              Quote: saturn.mmm
              Quote: LevGurych
              Whether we like it or not, the dollar is the world currency. The main one.

              Develop your economy and it will be us for all world currencies.


              So you need to write about what you need to do in order to develop your economy, and not parasitize on banal truths, all the more throwing facts irrelevant to the problem, only in order to “excite” the audience. And maestro Volodin has done this not for the first time. An article in December 2015 about the Plenum of the RF Armed Forces was absolutely similar in design and essence.

              Comparison of the current situation with the 1942 year - without comment at all. The elderberry garden, and the uncle in Kiev. This is about arguing with a woman: you tell her about the size, and she about the color ...
        3. Lev Gurych
          Lev Gurych 22 January 2016 17: 08 New
          -3
          Yes, and as for the "dubious stuffing", then I support the comrade hrapon: You count how many comments "putinsliled" under your article! The people, not understanding it, begins to seethe with the ancient liberal tale about "why do we feed the West."
          The data of the Ministry of Finance are numbers, just like letters in the alphabet, and how they are disposed of is the responsibility of a person. Yes, and a citizen too.
        4. twviewer
          twviewer 22 January 2016 17: 30 New
          +6
          Quote: Volodin
          What is the "stuffing in"?

          The stuffing is that you break the liberal paradigm. Take the money earned and take it to the owner, supposedly to maintain the balance of payments. Then borrow from the owner, supposedly for the needs of servicing corporate debt, but at a higher interest rate or to bring down the ruble buying up currency for the same purpose. And the main thing is in no case to invest in your own economy, because inflation, and the owner will not forgive.
          And such a simple thing as a moratorium on payment, due to the imposed economic sanctions (force majeure) on corporate debt, is generally considered heresy.
          And it is normal for them to rob their own people, now the "state banks" and "state corporations" will gnaw at them. And the Constitution has not been a decree for a long time. Here is the third term of the presidency, after two in a row, and the maintenance of the ruble exchange rate and a welfare state in which the poor become poor and the rich get richer. In general, wherever you look everywhere, there is legal splendor :) And everything is "legal" only as long as the authorities are in power, therefore, there is no reason to part with it, and to change something.
          1. Pilgrim07
            Pilgrim07 22 January 2016 22: 39 New
            -1
            There is no such thing as a moratorium on debt repayment! This is immediately default! And this is already ... but Ukraine is afraid of him !!! And you are a moratorium.
      2. midivan
        midivan 22 January 2016 22: 25 New
        +8
        Quote: hrapon
        For example, there has been a lot of talk recently about supporting small businesses. They even created a state corporation to support the MB led by Braverman (a colleague of Chubais). What did they really do? What are you doing?

        I immediately remembered a joke smile 90s College of Economics, a teacher - in order to organize a business you need capital, in order to earn capital you need start-up capital, in order to earn start-up capital you need at least a starting gun
        1. Pilgrim07
          Pilgrim07 22 January 2016 22: 40 New
          -1
          Yes, for the 90s the right strategy !!! laughing
    7. Will
      Will 22 January 2016 13: 52 New
      +2
      There are too many lovers of "easy" money in state structures. And money in itself is pushing for this, if you know how and from what point to take it (money). The United States ate the dog on this and threw a leash from it, "dogs" on others. Few people can feel themselves "free" from this bondage. Only those who need little.
    8. siberalt
      siberalt 23 January 2016 09: 41 New
      0
      By buying US stocks, we are investing in the American economy. The total US debt to such "investors" is already 18 trillion dollars, which they are not going to give to anyone. China is also played, but its yuan, unlike the ruble, is sovereign.
  2. parusnik
    parusnik 22 January 2016 06: 34 New
    +8
    There is another interesting trend, as soon as relations with the United States escalate .. bonds merge .. a little bit of understanding is bought ..
    1. iConst
      iConst 22 January 2016 12: 14 New
      +2
      Quote: parusnik
      There is another interesting trend, as soon as relations with the United States escalate .. bonds merge .. a little bit of understanding is bought ..
      - Interesting remark.

      Oil painting: Kerry talked with Lavrov, talked about something, and at the end Kerry (getting up): "And, yes, Serge, can you buy bonds for a couple of billions?" laughing
    2. Ami du peuple
      Ami du peuple 22 January 2016 12: 18 New
      +6
      Quote: parusnik
      There is another interesting trend, as soon as relations with the United States escalate .. bonds merge .. a little bit of understanding is bought ..

      Maybe. And perhaps the concept of "drain-not drain" depends on the supply of material (click)
  3. aszzz888
    aszzz888 22 January 2016 06: 37 New
    0
    There is a game of worlds. And not for life, but for death. And who in this game will be on horseback, and who is under him is a question.
    1. SAM 5
      SAM 5 22 January 2016 06: 44 New
      22
      It is in such a game that our economy will never be on a horse.
      1. PHANTOM-AS
        PHANTOM-AS 22 January 2016 08: 57 New
        +4
        the big question is which side are our speculators on?

        The official dollar exchange rate for today, January 22, is 83 rubles 59 kopecks per unit of American currency (plus 4 rubles 13 kopecks). For one euro they give 91,18 rubles (plus 4 rubles 15 kopecks).
        1. Gomunkul
          Gomunkul 22 January 2016 09: 59 New
          +4
          the big question is which side are our speculators on?
          Speculators always play on their side, they do not have the concept of homeland, they have the main profit.
          The official dollar exchange rate for today, January 22, is 83 rubles 59 kopecks per unit of American currency (plus 4 rubles 13 kopecks).
          This is still not enough, the rate according to the current dependence of the ruble on oil should be approximately 95 rubles. It used to be like this: rate = 3 / barrel cost of the brent brand).
          By the way, according to the decree of the Government of the Russian Federation No. 1290 of 30.11.15/0/15. the rate of duty on oil will be XNUMX at a cost of a barrel (Brent) of $ XNUMX.
          1. PHANTOM-AS
            PHANTOM-AS 22 January 2016 10: 15 New
            +2
            Quote: Gomunkul
            Speculators always play on their side, they do not have the concept of homeland, they have the main profit.

            You understand my point perfectly. good
            Thank you. drinks
          2. aba
            aba 22 January 2016 21: 08 New
            +1
            the dependence of the ruble on oil should be approximately 95 rubles

            Not so long ago I read an article about a course on the hamburger index, so the buck should be a little more expensive than 20 rubles now.
            1. Pilgrim07
              Pilgrim07 22 January 2016 22: 44 New
              -1
              I like this course more !!! than the current one. am
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        3. midivan
          midivan 22 January 2016 22: 42 New
          +2
          Quote: PHANTOM-AS
          the big question is which side are our speculators on?

          The official dollar exchange rate for today, January 22, is 83 rubles 59 kopecks per unit of American currency (plus 4 rubles 13 kopecks). For one euro they give 91,18 rubles (plus 4 rubles 15 kopecks).

          Jan 22, 22:39
          US accuses Russia of interfering in the work of its diplomats
          Gazprom called the attempt to pressure transit claims of Ukraine
          The Ministry of Defense has denied reports of a Turkish aircraft shot down by the Turkish Air Force
          Poroshenko boycotted journalists in Davos on a national basis
          Biathlete Tsvetkov won silver in sprint at World Cup
          USD ММВБ78,18−4,45-4,45EUR ММВБ84,38−5,62-5,62НЕФТЬ32,20+8,93  %
          as I understand it, either they heard you and shamed you, or all the same Tsvetkov pulled out with silver, and why the identity, though not gold laughing
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      3. Aleksander
        Aleksander 22 January 2016 09: 46 New
        +5
        Quote: SAM 5
        It is in such a game that our economy will never be on a horse.


        The top of idiocy is to play with an outright enemy by his rules.
    2. 33 Watcher
      33 Watcher 22 January 2016 07: 02 New
      25
      Games, games, and you can play it out. If you have something to invest, why is it not invested domestically? Why paper? Why, not an industry which, if not immediately, but then for a very long time, is capable of generating profit for an investor? What's wrong? request
      Another rhetorical question recourse
      1. Wheel
        Wheel 22 January 2016 08: 03 New
        12
        Quote: Observer 33
        If you have something to invest, why is it not invested domestically?

        And why invest, if without investments inside the country it is well milked?
      2. Ami du peuple
        Ami du peuple 22 January 2016 08: 27 New
        +3
        Quote: Observer 33
        Why, not an industry which, if not immediately, but then for a very long time, is capable of generating profit for an investor? What's wrong?
        Another rhetorical question

        Another rhetorical answer is that the industry does not immediately make a profit and, moreover, there is a risk that instead of income, the real sector will bring losses. "Why bother? We need to invest in the securities of the most powerful state - dividends, albeit small, but stable" - this is how our liberal economists reason. In addition, as Mr. Dvorkovich, who works in the government of the Russian Federation as Deputy Prime Minister, said: "Russia must pay for the financial stability of the United States."
        1. Kahlan amnell
          Kahlan amnell 22 January 2016 09: 27 New
          18
          Quote: Ami du peuple
          ... as Mr. Dvorkovich, who works in the Russian government as Deputy Prime Minister, said: "Russia must pay for the financial stability of the United States."

          Hands reach for the pan. Such a good, massive, heavy (not like the current Teflon wicks). And the pan seeks to attach to the erysipelas of the aforementioned deputy prime minister. angry
          1. Victor Demchenko
            Victor Demchenko 22 January 2016 09: 59 New
            +4
            Quote: Kahlan Amnell
            Hands reach for the pan. Good, massive, heavy

            I highly recommend the production of China, cast iron, almost like early Soviet, with a handle. very comfortable for such a face! he himself tried to attach to a neighbor from Kyrgyzstan, he recently arrived, and still not knowing our order, he began to establish his charter in our monastery. nothing really intelligibly helped. the first time. and the pan is intact. good
            1. Very old
              Very old 22 January 2016 11: 19 New
              0
              Opp-la! Give two of these fellow
          2. midivan
            midivan 22 January 2016 22: 52 New
            +2
            Quote: Kahlan Amnell
            Hands reach for the pan. Good, massive, heavy

            I recommend that you choose a frying pan according to your strength, since in order to get a decent blow you need not only the weight of the item, but also its acceleration to get maximum efficiency fellow laughing love
        2. Tambov Wolf
          Tambov Wolf 22 January 2016 14: 10 New
          +4
          The question is, if Mr. Dvorkovich expresses such pearls out loud and doesn’t have anything for him, does this mean that Mr. Putin adheres to exactly the same views? If the answer is yes, then everything becomes clear with the entire economy and politics in the country. And if not, then we return to the bad boyars and the good guardian, the king, which is ridiculous for a long time.
          1. Saratoga833
            Saratoga833 22 January 2016 16: 27 New
            +1
            Quote: Tambov Wolf
            Does Mr Putin have exactly the same views? If the answer is yes, then everything becomes clear with the entire economy and politics in the country.

            The way it is. Especially considering Putin’s remarks about V.I. Lenin.
          2. Pilgrim07
            Pilgrim07 22 January 2016 22: 48 New
            -1
            Yes, Putin is generally wooden in the economy, and it’s bad that you don’t notice it.
            the bear by the way did not go far from Putin.
      3. Wolverine
        Wolverine 22 January 2016 11: 49 New
        +2
        I’ll add, or we’re building Turkey’s nuclear power plants for 60 years, in general I want to cry ...
  4. sa-ag
    sa-ag 22 January 2016 06: 42 New
    21
    The Russian Federation sells hydrocarbons for dollars, then they are exchanged for the same dollars for debt obligations, so the dollars come back and are already used for another purpose
    1. olimpiada15
      olimpiada15 22 January 2016 08: 12 New
      30
      Quote: sa-ag
      The Russian Federation sells hydrocarbons for dollars, then they are exchanged for the same dollars for debt obligations, so the dollars come back and are already used for another purpose

      And from here a conclusion - the Russian Federation delivers US hydrocarbons - FOR FREE! Yes, with time they will be returned, but the states will receive the fat from them.
      There are business commentators on the site. Imagine that you have grown a crop, sold it, and left the revenue from the buyer. Returned home, do you have the opportunity to purchase seeds, fuel and lubricants and everything you need to grow the next crop? In extreme cases, you can take a loan, but your business will not be able to grow. And your customer’s business will grow.
      So the actions of the government of the country hinder the development of the economy.
      But strengthens the power of the United States.
      By its actions, the Russian Federation helps this country pursue an aggressive policy throughout the world: threatening military bases, color revolutions, the spread of terrorism, hindering the development of the economy, including Of Russia.
      1. Boos
        Boos 22 January 2016 08: 39 New
        +9
        All right! The rest is chatter ...
      2. V.ic
        V.ic 22 January 2016 10: 14 New
        +3
        Quote: olimpiada15
        So the actions of the government of the country hinder the development of the economy.
        But strengthens the power of the United States.

        But we are not the 37th year ...
        1. Saratoga833
          Saratoga833 22 January 2016 16: 28 New
          -1
          Quote: V.ic
          But we are not the 37th year ...

          Very sorry!
          1. Pilgrim07
            Pilgrim07 22 January 2016 22: 52 New
            0
            Are you sure you’ll get into the guard, and not into the prisoners?
      3. kagorta
        kagorta 22 January 2016 10: 20 New
        -2
        The hardest thing in business is not to make money, but to save it. And we didn’t come up with anything better.
        1. iConst
          iConst 22 January 2016 11: 46 New
          +4
          Quote: kagorta
          The hardest thing in business is not to make money, but to save it. And we didn’t come up with anything better.
          - "... after such a rain, wait for a good calving ..." (c)
          (Return of the Prodigal Parrot.)

          And what to store them? You need to invest them. That will be saved.

          But our government is not exactly the enemy of the people - they want to save a little bit, so that there would be at least some people left (well, who will clean the toilet?).

          How - to invest in development? The government has been discussing this issue (for 25 years), but the nature of this "elite" is that:
          1. Part does not know how (does not even know how)
          2. Part does not want (pointing from the State Department)
          3. A part wants, but is afraid that it will be stolen (worthwhile with Skolkovo Nana)
          4. Parts once (enough of your affairs!)
          5. Parts do not care - and so good
          6. Parts are just too lazy to move backwards.
          Hence the decision: treasurer (again: can Uncle Sam use one eyebrow).

          So, friends - every nation has the way it deserves it. They deserve us.

          We continue the conversation (schA, I’ll warm the current of the seagull) ... laughing
          1. kagorta
            kagorta 22 January 2016 12: 17 New
            -1
            What to invest in? We have had enough money for infrastructure projects to this day. And on everything that we built stolen mom do not cry. If you add money, would they steal less, or more? I believe that even more, since there would be more mess. Yes, and just pour money into the economy in those conditions, you think what would lead to. Only to the flight of capital. So I'm waiting for normal reasonable proposals in what to invest without populism, if you drank a seagull.
            This is exactly what the bastards didn’t invest in, but were supposed to buy deep-water drilling technologies from equipment manufacturing plants.
      4. Vadim237
        Vadim237 22 January 2016 10: 36 New
        0
        Our contribution to strengthening the US economy is a meager 80 billion, and now China - 3650 billion dollars - felt the difference.
        1. Tambov Wolf
          Tambov Wolf 22 January 2016 14: 13 New
          +1
          A bird (USA) pecks at a grain of corn and is full. Sometimes, we and China take these grandmothers from the people.
      5. tol100v
        tol100v 22 January 2016 16: 17 New
        0
        Quote: olimpiada15
        So the actions of the government of the country hinder the development of the economy.

        The issue with the Central Bank, supposedly of the Russian Federation, will be resolved, and much, much will become clear!
    2. Cube123
      Cube123 22 January 2016 10: 04 New
      +4
      Quote: sa-ag
      The Russian Federation sells hydrocarbons for dollars, then they are exchanged for the same dollars for debt obligations, so the dollars come back and are already used for another purpose

      You should not just put emphasis on the Russian Federation. Other countries do the same. Where do you think the trillions of investments from China and Japan come from? Yes, and the Saudis and Norway, too robustly noted.
      This is a long-standing policy of amers to obtain real values ​​at a huge discount.
      The only way to destroy this system is to gain REAL independence. Both economic and political and military. This is not done quickly.
      1. sa-ag
        sa-ag 22 January 2016 10: 16 New
        +2
        Quote: Cube123
        You should not just put emphasis on the Russian Federation. Other countries do the same.

        Received, but in this article we are talking only about the Russian Federation
  5. Al_oriso
    Al_oriso 22 January 2016 06: 42 New
    +5
    Who exactly can benefit from not investing billions of reserve or budgetary funds in education, industrial production and high technology, but into paper cut into even rectangles from the hands of the American "partner"?

    Rhetorical question. It is clear to whom it is to the good and immediately clear to the detriment.
    1. coolvoldik
      coolvoldik 22 January 2016 08: 00 New
      21
      The government, due to the devaluation of the ruble, fills the budget from our own pockets.
      Once they fooled us when the profits from the sale of natural resources were withdrawn to reserve funds,
      which are in foreign jurisdiction. (than no example of an offshore economy).
      The second time when they did not want to burn these reserves in the interests of most citizens. Our entire economy is built on this principle.
      Each self-respecting corporation has an affiliate daughter under foreign jurisdiction. All profits settle there. If necessary,
      You can replenish the working capital of the Russian half by lending from an offshore structure. This is how corporate debts of companies appear.
      And the money from the NWF will be used and used to replenish the working capital of controlled com. banks.
      Moreover, this is done by direct order of the president.
      1. Cap.Morgan
        Cap.Morgan 22 January 2016 08: 12 New
        -26 qualifying.
        A matter of trust. And responsibility.
        Remember how many times over the past 100 years, various financial shocks have occurred in Russia. Confiscations, devaluations, and just hitting.

        The president keeps the money of our country away from the sticky arms of our thieves.
        After all, they managed to steal finances both during the construction of the cosmodrome and during the organization of the Olympiad. We have many experts in this matter.)))
        1. coolvoldik
          coolvoldik 22 January 2016 08: 55 New
          +3
          The president keeps the money of our country away from the sticky arms of our thieves.


          Well, well ...)) sterilization of part of the money supply in government bonds of NATO countries. ... (founder of the idea of ​​Mr. Kudrin)
          And now, in connection with the sanctions of the West, we return our money through trade in debt obligations ...
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        3. Belousov
          Belousov 22 January 2016 09: 43 New
          +9
          And what prevents him from transplanting these thieves? Here is such a simple question.
          1. iConst
            iConst 22 January 2016 12: 25 New
            +4
            Quote: Belousov
            And what prevents him from transplanting these thieves? Here is such a simple question.
            - Gee ...
            And then wander in thought over the echoing empty Kremlin and the Government House ... laughing
            1. aleksey980
              aleksey980 22 January 2016 16: 59 New
              +2
              Quote: iConst
              - Gee ...
              And then wander in thought over the echoing empty Kremlin and the Government House ...

              Well, I don’t think that everything is so bad. There must be honest ones, so at least one cleaning lady should stay. request
          2. tol100v
            tol100v 22 January 2016 16: 29 New
            0
            Quote: Belousov
            to transplant these thieves?

            Or maybe ...!
        4. Belousov
          Belousov 22 January 2016 09: 43 New
          +1
          And what prevents him from transplanting these thieves? Here is such a simple question.
          1. Saratoga833
            Saratoga833 22 January 2016 16: 39 New
            +3
            Quote: Belousov
            And what prevents him from transplanting these thieves? Here is such a simple question.

            And the established worldview prevents him that without these thieves and grabbers he will become nothing and no one! Or doesn’t it reach him that instead of these mugs it is possible to put people really sick for the country and able to make and answer for the decisions made! That nepotism and nepotism at work never led to anything good! V.I. Lenin criticizes! Let him venerate Stalin!
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  6. kagorta
    kagorta 22 January 2016 06: 42 New
    +1
    This topic is already tired. This is a real desire to make money. For example, the acquisition of the last US treasury bonds in November, was tied to payments of public debt in December. The main place to acquire US obligations is the exchange. There they are quoted and played. And there are moments, for example, when the payment of income in December, and the player needs money, because he sells in November, but the sale price will still be less than the price of obligations and the amount of profitability. But there are no other reliable tools in the world now, and debts must be repaid on time.
    1. Saratoga833
      Saratoga833 22 January 2016 16: 43 New
      +2
      Quote: kagorta
      there are no other reliable tools in the world right now

      There is! This is a developing own industry and own agriculture! And the money had to be invested not in the US economy, but in its own. Then such questions would not arise!
      1. kagorta
        kagorta 22 January 2016 17: 59 New
        0
        I’m talking about a specific situation, about growth in November. Give money in December. An instrument of liabilities is simply a liquid asset. You do not sell your investments quickly for cash.
  7. asiat_61
    asiat_61 22 January 2016 06: 50 New
    15
    Our authorities and we live in different countries. We are moving in parallel courses, but in different directions. At the Gaidar wake, the liberals showed Putin that they are stronger. One of Gref’s statements is worth nothing, and nothing came of it. Pyskov said: ... ah-yay, you can’t do it .. and washed yourself. So you can’t even talk about Amer’s papers. We bought and will buy, such a team came from the regional commissariat, and party decisions must be implemented.
    1. Very old
      Very old 22 January 2016 08: 44 New
      +3
      "The government lives on another planet, dear" @ Mr. BI
  8. kagorta
    kagorta 22 January 2016 06: 50 New
    0
    Now 82 billion, less than in 2014. You understand, we must get rid of them slowly, without losing our sales. And I'll tell you something, but on this and on crises, our financiers have learned to earn.
    1. Kuzyakin15
      Kuzyakin15 22 January 2016 07: 59 New
      16
      kaqorta:
      Our financiers have learned to make money on crises, there is no arguing.
      They only earn for themselves, loved ones.
      And the population at this time is lowered below the plinth, and even try to tear off three skins, so that they would not get stuck inadvertently along the way.
      1. Cap.Morgan
        Cap.Morgan 22 January 2016 08: 17 New
        +5
        The state exists to strip the people. What, when and where was it different?
        "Government is like fire - a dangerous servant and a monstrous master." George Washington
      2. kagorta
        kagorta 22 January 2016 09: 52 New
        -2
        I wonder how the clerk of the Ministry of Finance can make money on sales of American obligations. laughing These are net state revenues.
        And forget all these populist slogans of yours, you live under capitalism. They themselves wanted to live with him. Why did you decide that someone should comb your skin and wash with shampoo. Earn yourself as you can (within the framework of the law naturally).
        And in general there was a normal site, when I came to it in 2011 there were cool discussions, and now there are a lot of rya-patriotic comments, propaganda of alcoholism and nonsense.
        1. Koshel2901
          Koshel2901 22 January 2016 11: 28 New
          0
          Did someone change the flag?
          1. kagorta
            kagorta 22 January 2016 12: 29 New
            0
            Flags and titles are for proles. One must judge by words and deeds. And then the mareshals got divorced. laughing
            But seriously, when you go from the tablet, regardless of the operator, the flag will be the United States.
            And a lot more can be gleaned from the profile fellow
      3. Vadim237
        Vadim237 22 January 2016 10: 40 New
        0
        Most speculators rip off - and they are not power.
  9. samarin1969
    samarin1969 22 January 2016 06: 52 New
    +9
    Some Elvira Sakhibzadovna quietly drains people's money to a "partner" .... Her irritated explanation about the need to "earn" on interest (something like 0,25%) is simply mocking ...

    I would like to ask her from Zhvanetsky's "tank" .... "Why do millions of taxpayers need this?"
    Otherwise, there will be an "Iranian bummer" with frozen assets.
    1. olimpiada15
      olimpiada15 22 January 2016 08: 41 New
      13
      The meaning of the actions of the Central Bank is as follows: having invested dollars at a ruble exchange rate of 60 rubles for $, she is going to withdraw them at a rate of 120 for $.
      That the ruble will grow is not just a forecast, it is due to the actions of the Central Bank.
      As a result, the amount will be returned nominally 2 times more to the country's economy, and budget payments will be indexed, say, by 12%. Those. there will be enough funds in the budget for payments to state employees. Nabiullina will receive gratitude for the effective investment of funds, money will suffice.
      The fact that real incomes of people will fall, because production over this period will not only not grow, but the real economy will shrink — governments are not interested — reports with good numbers will be laid out on the table, none of those who have foreign currency accounts will suffer.
      What about the people? The people will be told another tale of an efficient economy.
    2. epsilon571
      epsilon571 22 January 2016 12: 07 New
      +9
      samarin1969 RU Today
      Some Elvira Sakhibzadovna quietly drains people's money to a "partner" ..


      Victor Gerashchenko about Nabiullina: "In place of Nabiullina, I would ask for a gun and shoot myself." Today, the ex-head of the Central Bank Viktor Gerashchenko in an exclusive interview with "BUSINESS Online" ... / http://kprf.ru/roscrisis/137467.html /

      Victor Gerashchenko about government: “... Well, what is Medvedev, except that he is married to the daughter of the submarine commander from Kronstadt, with whom he studied at school? Was he involved in economics? No! He was in the law department at Sobchak ... And what did Sobchak finish? They wanted to put him on trial for theft. There were scandals then. And then the whole team, not to say the gang, came to work here gradually. Dvorkovich - is he a great economist, or what? ”.... / The full interview of Gerashchenko can be read on the website http://kprf.ru/roscrisis/137467.html /

      But what Elvira Sahipzadovna herself says: "There is a habit of looking at the exchange rate and sometimes measuring their savings in currency. But, it seems to me, there is a gradual adaptation of consciousness among many citizens. Therefore, the inflation rate, in my opinion, is of much greater importance and greater importance in the life of every person." Low inflation will allow both people and businesses to make long-term plans and feel comfortable.

      The ruble is close to fundamental levels; there is no risk to financial stability.
      1. samarin1969
        samarin1969 22 January 2016 17: 09 New
        +2
        ++++++++++++++++++ where did you find such a face?
      2. Aleksandr Tot
        Aleksandr Tot 22 January 2016 23: 20 New
        0
        Green-eyed you are our epsilon571. I tried to find useful things from you - I did not find it.
        But the video is on +. Children are always valued at ....
        Asterisks to you.
  10. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 22 January 2016 06: 53 New
    +6
    In the meantime, this fact warms the souls of American economists, the volume of Russian investments is gradually reduced.

    I would like to believe that this is indeed the case. This paradox is also embarrassing - they put pressure on us with sanctions, and by prolonging and increasing them, and we invest in their "securities". So who does our government want to help, its economy or the US economy?
    1. olimpiada15
      olimpiada15 22 January 2016 09: 20 New
      +1
      The naive question is, we have a microscopic economy, of course, help the world monster to maintain a leading position.
    2. coolvoldik
      coolvoldik 22 January 2016 12: 18 New
      +2
      Now the funds of the Reserve Fund and NWF are allowed to be placed in foreign currency and debt obligations of foreign states, state agencies and central banks, as well as international financial organizations. The funds of the Reserve Fund may be kept in accounts of foreign banks.

      I can make assumptions that under the conditions of sanctions, funds placed on accounts of foreign banks are not so easy to return. Perhaps, through the purchase of debt instruments, the authorities are trying to return the funds frozen there.
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  11. kagorta
    kagorta 22 January 2016 06: 53 New
    0
    And the financiers should not be the ones who are doing the right thing for them, they don’t have to spend such work, save and save. But here we have the full Ministry of Economic Development Akhtung.
  12. D-Master
    D-Master 22 January 2016 06: 54 New
    +2
    Of course, politics comes first, but there is also an economic factor. US Treasury is a universal means of saving and at the same time a universal means of payment. That is, all large banks and states, instead of transferring funds, also accept US debt securities that are classified as AAA class assets. If you do not discuss the fact that the ratings are fake and America will soon fail, abstracting from external noise, and thinking, it turns out that just having money in your account - even currency, you get a loss per year of about 0.25-, 0-5% of the global inflation. If you invested in treasury, you cover these losses. And if necessary, you can transfer them (debt obligations) in the form of payment for something. DO NOT forget that all investments in Euros over the past two years have depreciated by ~ 30-35%, and Eurobonds denominated in Euros have also lost this amount in the effective exchange rate. Germany, on some of its bonds, has introduced NEGATIVE rates! Due to the enormous demand for extremely reliable means of saving in the world. Therefore, it is not so clear colleagues.
  13. fa2998
    fa2998 22 January 2016 06: 54 New
    +8
    I'm just interested in the name of the one who buys these obligations on behalf of Russia! We have that everything is financed at home and there is nowhere to invest! We cannot return the loan from Ukraine, or we will forgive someone the loan, the people are dissatisfied .., but here tens of billions, our overseas "partners" can block, like Iran, for "bad behavior". They can do that! hi
    1. kagorta
      kagorta 22 January 2016 07: 18 New
      0
      For a short time, in a converted currency, with AAA class reliability and a huge customer market, we do not have such tools. Do not confuse the warm with the soft. There are financiers and there are economists. The former save and play, the latter develop and spend. I have no complaints against our financier. There are claims to the president. The only question is why in our country the financiers won, why there is no balance.
      1. saturn.mmm
        saturn.mmm 22 January 2016 10: 25 New
        +1
        Quote: kagorta
        There are claims to the president. The only question is why in our country the financiers won, why there is no balance.

        Probably because there are financiers and no economists.
        1. Oldwiser
          Oldwiser 22 January 2016 11: 51 New
          +6
          a comprador model of the economy is to sell the public domain, steal revenue and withdraw abroad.
          1. kagorta
            kagorta 22 January 2016 12: 36 New
            -1
            What is another working model of the economy. wink
            Only the one where you want to live)
  14. Great-grandfather of Zeus
    Great-grandfather of Zeus 22 January 2016 06: 59 New
    0
    These are official figures, but are they real? Nobody will tell us the truth, only I am sure that much more money has been invested in these "securities", and one day, when we try to exchange them for "live" dollars, we will just be sent to Japan to the address, and we will be left with beautiful toilet paper ...
  15. Neophyte
    Neophyte 22 January 2016 07: 00 New
    14
    All this proves that there is no economy in Russia! Exchange speculators and speculators from
    Cabinet of Ministers, on the mentality, are the same HARI! And all the talk about the confrontation with the United States,
    just a fairy tale for simpletons!
    1. Cap.Morgan
      Cap.Morgan 22 January 2016 08: 37 New
      +4
      It is the Americans who impose sanctions against us, accuse us of all sins, and hold negotiations and consultations with us. Probably because we are walking in the wake of American politics.
      What other fairy tales do you know?
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 22 January 2016 10: 46 New
        +1
        There are many ways to circumvent sanctions, so enter, do not enter - and will bypass them - in the US and other countries, even organizations exist to help on this issue.
  16. 1536
    1536 22 January 2016 07: 03 New
    0
    I see nothing wrong with buying profitable securities. Another thing is that the Americans can arrest them, freeze all assets. What then? In Russia, it remains only in response to seize US property. And her, apparently, will just accumulate to pay off the Russian money stolen by the Americans. Do the Chinese also have such proportions?
    But I am not an economist, and therefore I only see what is happening before my eyes. And before them some kind of bearish stupidity passes. I remember when I was a child in a zoo in Anapa I saw a bear in a cage put on itself, and then removed a car tire. Why, you ask? I don’t know, but I would think that it amused him. And we felt sorry for him, even insulting for his stupid occupation.
    1. Saratoga833
      Saratoga833 22 January 2016 16: 52 New
      +1
      Quote: 1536
      I see nothing wrong with buying profitable securities

      And how profitable are they? And if the same money is earned in our industry or agriculture, what, will there be less profitability? I doubt it!
  17. Same lech
    Same lech 22 January 2016 07: 17 New
    +6
    If this is one of the strategies of economic management of the state, then, frankly, all the talk of the last time about some kind of mobilization economy there seems ridiculous.


    GREF duntshifters ... like himself am We turned on the hand brake and we are to blame.
    1. kagorta
      kagorta 22 January 2016 07: 25 New
      -12 qualifying.
      Gref was removed from the Ministry of Economics, for his radicalism. He would have invested everything in the development of the economy). But we, in fact, as a minister, were not very bad. And the best is now simply not visible. And most importantly, he is telling the truth.
      1. Same lech
        Same lech 22 January 2016 07: 59 New
        +9
        And most importantly, he is telling the truth.


        He’s talking nonsense and not the truth ... he invested a billion rubles in Sberbank’s IT structure and then he is surprised that he didn’t invest in the wrong way ... what is he the best minister? ... if he has huge money in his hands he cannot to calculate the prospect of their investments ... and make stupid statements shifting their mistakes to the whole country, you know, to put it mildly, it is unwise.
        1. kagorta
          kagorta 22 January 2016 08: 06 New
          -6
          Admitting mistakes is better than saying all is well. Sberbank really got better. And who is not mistaken? And who would you appoint as the Minister of Economics?
          1. Victor Demchenko
            Victor Demchenko 22 January 2016 10: 14 New
            +8
            Andrei, friend, are you sure you wrote:
            Quote: kagorta
            Sberbank really got better

            Did you even work with Sberbank? and how much% give you a loan there? I am personally offered preferential rate of 20,5% per annum ... belay do you think I'm completely crazy fool and are you aware of their deposit rates?
            1. kagorta
              kagorta 22 January 2016 12: 45 New
              -2
              And the rates in our banks are not high and so. And how do you think this is for the country as a whole, or in Sberbank only? I remember when I first got a mortgage in Sberbank it was quiet horror, extorting bribes, wild lines and dumb staff.
              And now there was only stupid staff. wink
              And do not you please tell me. And do not be interested in my health, so emotionally and I will not tell you where to go. I have a higher financial education at the institute of the top three economic universities of the country. And I understand something in the economy.
              1. Tambov Wolf
                Tambov Wolf 22 January 2016 14: 34 New
                0
                You seem to be one of the Yasin falcons? Then your furious liberal zeal is understandable. You seem to have learned well targeting-juggling. Well, did anyone teach you that by acquiring "securities" and the enemy's currency, you become his slave? After all, the enemy will print "currencies" - paper, as much as his soul wants, and "securities" (as they are also called Treasuries) may not be accepted for payment at all, justifying this that you are not behaving correctly. Now the USA is doing this. apparently a cosmopolitan, then your vision of the economy is clear.
                1. kagorta
                  kagorta 22 January 2016 14: 48 New
                  -3
                  Another Tambovsky ... I am not a liberal this time (how you get labels to stick), secondly, I would choose the path of industrialization, as under Stalin. I’ll tell you one secret. States do not have friends; they have only allies and interests. I am a patriot and at the same time a reasonable person. I have a vision of what the economy is now. And this is capitalism. But the Soviet economy is gone, it burned out and everyone who lived in the Soviet Union was its traitor.
                  1. Tambov Wolf
                    Tambov Wolf 22 January 2016 16: 03 New
                    +1
                    Tambov, Tambov. How do you understand you take the name of a part of the Roman army? Then, my dear, is written kogorta or in Russian cohort, what a person "with a higher financial education in an institute that is one of the three economic universities of the country should know." And you do not get sick.
                    1. kagorta
                      kagorta 22 January 2016 18: 06 New
                      -1
                      Sorry, I didn’t know that Tambovsky .. Cicero will be studying my nickname, but I am also Belarusian by nationality. And this is tracing paper in the Latin font from Belarusian.
              2. Saratoga833
                Saratoga833 22 January 2016 16: 55 New
                0
                Quote: kagorta
                I understand something in the economy.

                Something bad you understand in this! Or did mortgage rates compare with those in the US? Or has something changed at all?
                1. kagorta
                  kagorta 22 January 2016 17: 55 New
                  0
                  The Bank cannot give interest rates below the Central Bank rate, and it is not lower than 11 percent. And therefore, you will compare yourself with America when our rate compares with them.
        2. syndicalist
          syndicalist 22 January 2016 09: 24 New
          +1
          But here from a billion at least something is visible. Agree, Sber today and 10 years ago - two big differences. I remember how much time I went back to there because of an error in the communal receipt and what lines I stood for the treasured windows. And so, I agree, Gref speaks out today, at least, not by rank
          1. kagorta
            kagorta 22 January 2016 09: 58 New
            -3
            He spoke out in preparation for the presidential election. See me lowered, I raised Sber. Ready for new labor achievements. And the presidential election is not far off, and you cannot approach them in the asshole, success is needed. And that means people who bring these successes. But in the economy in a couple of months you won’t decide anything. In 2016, the crisis, in 2017, we need to work hard to show something to the people by 2018.
          2. Victor Demchenko
            Victor Demchenko 22 January 2016 10: 17 New
            +1
            you understand, all these innovations are FORCED. it is forced. if they hadn’t entered them, people would have gone to pay to other banks, the same Sovinkombank accepts utility bills WITHOUT a commission and without queues. yes
            1. Vadim237
              Vadim237 22 January 2016 10: 51 New
              0
              I pay for the entire communal apartment via the Internet.
            2. kagorta
              kagorta 22 January 2016 12: 59 New
              0
              The Bank of Russia revoked the banking license from Moscow Sovinkombank in 2014.
              Sovinkomabnka’s license was revoked due to unsavory operations, the cash amount of which exceeded 6,8 billion rubles. In addition, the credit institution did not comply with the requirements of the supervisor.
              And do you keep money there?
      2. Vadim237
        Vadim237 22 January 2016 10: 48 New
        +2
        "Gref was the best finance minister" - this is hardly.
        1. kagorta
          kagorta 22 January 2016 12: 46 New
          0
          He was not the Minister of Finance.
    2. sa-ag
      sa-ag 22 January 2016 08: 08 New
      +3
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      Downshifters

      Downshifter, this is a man who, to some extent, took place, but he got tired of all this fuss and goes to some Thailand with Cambodia and lives there on an annuity unhurried life, switching to another, the downshifter is not a failure at all
      1. Same lech
        Same lech 22 January 2016 08: 15 New
        +5
        Downshifter, this is a man who, to some extent, took place, but he got tired of all this fuss and goes to some Thailand with Cambodia and lives there on an annuity unhurried life, switching to another, the downshifter is not a failure at all


        Our country is so diverse and unique that you can’t talk about it in any way as GREF said ... it disturbs everyone together and honestly offended me as he put it about RUSSIA.
        An official of this rank should follow his every word ... the price of an error is too high for our country.
  18. EvgNik
    EvgNik 22 January 2016 07: 29 New
    14
    This is called a simple Russian word - speculation. And for this business, money is also allocated from the reserve fund. But it is always specific people who profit from speculation. At our expense, by the way. In Soviet times, such people fell down the forest in Siberia, and now they are respected, "elite".
  19. Jarilo
    Jarilo 22 January 2016 07: 48 New
    15
    They keep the country on a starvation diet, shift utility bills, overhaul expenses, increase property taxes, etc. to citizens, and where is it all? Purchase of American debt receipts at a meager percentage. Are we building a bright capitalistic future in America?
    1. Mera joota
      Mera joota 22 January 2016 09: 09 New
      +3
      Quote: Jarilo
      They keep the country on a starvation diet, shift utility bills, overhaul expenses, increase property taxes, etc. to citizens, and where is it all? Purchase of American debt receipts at a meager percentage. Are we building a bright capitalistic future in America?

      I support! I ask everyone who is not indifferent to add their vote!
    2. sds87
      sds87 22 January 2016 09: 57 New
      +1
      A lot of countries on earth are withdrawing their capital to the United States. All cash flows go there. And all because they run the show. And we will never have money for a country with people. All the money goes to "dear" oligarchs and to the US papers. Tighten your belt tighter - people!
  20. gergi
    gergi 22 January 2016 08: 06 New
    +8
    The dollar, the main weapon of overseas villains. It is the dollar that kills people around the world. Down with the government liberals! Eltsenoids !,
  21. PValery53
    PValery53 22 January 2016 08: 06 New
    +4
    And when, finally, the financial shark of Russia (CB) will stop playing thimbles with the US Federal Reserve? “The chickens are already laughing.”
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 22 January 2016 10: 54 New
      -4
      And what about our Central Bank with the US Federal Reserve - we do not hold gold there.
  22. Volzhanin
    Volzhanin 22 January 2016 08: 07 New
    12
    And this bunch of garbage purposefully, slowly, but surely leads the country to destruction.
  23. Ros 56
    Ros 56 22 January 2016 08: 07 New
    13
    An interesting thing, over the past two years, the ruble has fallen by half. For a dollar earned on the same oil in January 2014, today you can get 80 rubles. And these bucks are dead weight. So sell stupid people 20 billion dollars for rubles, here's more than 1,5 trillion rubles for the budget, you won't eat one hell of a bucks. In my opinion, the economic bloc of the government, together with the prime minister, is a continuous clinic, just right to call Kashchenko. What a lawyer can understand in economics when not even all economists are like a fish in water. "The trouble is, if the shoemaker starts the pies in the oven, and the cake-maker makes boots" - when it is said, but it is still relevant.
  24. Dimon19661
    Dimon19661 22 January 2016 08: 10 New
    +5
    I would like the government to learn how to invest in the construction of new factories, plants, power plants in the Russian Federation.
    1. Ros 56
      Ros 56 22 January 2016 09: 12 New
      +8
      Quote: Dimon19661
      factories, plants, power plants in the territory of the Russian Federation.


      You see, the point is not in some vague factories and plants, but in what specific factories and plants are needed, where to build them, what to produce. For example, in our city there were: one of the largest nickel-processing plants in the USSR, one of the largest meat-packing plants (3000 cattle per shift), a huge sewing factory, no less huge (with a full cycle - knitting, dyeing, sewing shops, etc.) knitwear factory, built a huge tractor trailer plant, a confectionery factory (Meteorite, Grillage, Bird's milk, Cherry with cognac, I listed just a little, there was a large store "Lakomka" where they sold only our sweets) and many other enterprises, it is necessary to list half a day. So, everything that is listed, everything was ruined, there is nothing. People have nowhere to work, and if where they take a salary of 7-12000 rubles, and from small ones they do not even formalize it. So it's not so simple with the construction of new ones. We need a state program, but with this government (except for the military) we cannot expect anything good.
    2. olimpiada15
      olimpiada15 22 January 2016 09: 13 New
      +2
      They do not invest because they know the ability of officials to plunder. The directed money will not reach the construction of production facilities. The paradox of modern Russia is that those who would like to work and develop production do not have money, and those who have them are engaged in speculation. Moreover, the state does not give money to the first, but generously finances the second.
      1. Ros 56
        Ros 56 22 January 2016 10: 03 New
        +3
        Quote: olimpiada15
        They do not invest because they know the ability of officials to plunder.

        Firstly, who are "they", and secondly, "they" are also officials. It turns out that they do not trust themselves, some kind of nonsense.
        And what the hell are the law enforcement bodies with, by the way, their salaries are not bad and they pay it out of the pockets of all hard workers, except for them no one creates surplus value.
      2. sa-ag
        sa-ag 22 January 2016 10: 19 New
        0
        Quote: olimpiada15
        They do not invest because they know the ability of officials to plunder.

        I read this comment and my association appeared with Germany and migrants, like they know, but they can’t do anything :-)
    3. Victor Demchenko
      Victor Demchenko 22 January 2016 10: 19 New
      +2
      what for? here in Kyrgyzstan to build a hydroelectric station is the very thing! (so the Kyrgyz sent them to the address!) am
  25. My address
    My address 22 January 2016 08: 11 New
    +7
    And not one padluchechka wants to explain the meaning of such gestures with currency! See my post "My Dear Capital". The only thing, so unforgettable Kudrin muttered a long time ago, that otherwise we will spend on drink, pro-inflation and so on.
    To the author, for the business question "Where is the money, Zin?": fellow hi.
  26. vladimirvn
    vladimirvn 22 January 2016 08: 12 New
    +9
    Here you explain to me who is in contradiction with the states? Our whole country or just a part of it? I'm talking about "ilite" and the rest. The degree of hatred towards them is constantly warming up among us, but "ilite" this does not prevent us from investing our money there, teaching our children there, getting medical treatment, preparing "reserve airfields" there for ourselves. am
    1. heal
      heal 22 January 2016 09: 24 New
      +5
      Quote: vladimirvn
      The degree of hatred towards them is constantly warming up among us, but "ilite" this does not prevent us from investing our money there, teaching our children there, getting medical treatment, preparing "reserve airfields" there for ourselves.

      So fairy tales about the crisis and other things for the people were invented so that the elite could steal handy. And for Putin, the United States is partners.
      1. syndicalist
        syndicalist 22 January 2016 09: 33 New
        +3
        No, the crisis is a real thing. And the bureaucrat’s army understands this perfectly. But greed defeats even the instinct of self-preservation
    2. Vadim237
      Vadim237 22 January 2016 10: 58 New
      0
      You can’t prepare the airdromes there anymore - the shop was closed and the accounts of those who decided to go there could easily be arrested, or even taken away.
    3. Koteg
      Koteg 24 January 2016 14: 28 New
      0
      Yes, here the horse understands that in our elite patriots fuck and never know, and so they only play along with Putin Krymsky knowing that he is fond of patriotism and put on masks of patriots_ as soon as Putin leaves they will throw off these masks and begin to drain to the west of Russia_ but forge they guessed these elites _ then we and them crouch stsukov national socialist revolution
  27. PValery53
    PValery53 22 January 2016 08: 13 New
    +7
    And when, finally, the financial shark of Russia (CB) will stop playing thimbles with the US Federal Reserve?!. “The chickens are already laughing.”
  28. VNP1958PVN
    VNP1958PVN 22 January 2016 08: 20 New
    +6
    With cheaters to play, it will be more expensive ...
  29. misterwulf
    misterwulf 22 January 2016 09: 02 New
    +2
    They need to play cards with a sharpie on the train. Mb brains will be in place.
  30. tomcat117
    tomcat117 22 January 2016 09: 13 New
    +4
    to the photo: how much is toilet paper?
  31. heal
    heal 22 January 2016 09: 19 New
    +4
    The main question: for what purpose do Russian government economists play such a game?
    It turns out that games with investments in US securities are really games, but only aimed at trying, so to speak, to receive local dividends - for the growth of the dollar against the ruble, for example. And all this is very similar to some kind of mathematical casino in which Russian economists are trying to win something by calculating the change in currency balances from dumping and buying foreign currency, as well as from investments in the mentioned American securities.

    Either these economists are cutting profit into their own pockets, or they imitate violent activity because they do not fully understand what to do, but to do something. And all this disgrace covers the unforgettable guarantor.

    At this time, the dollar on the Central Bank is 83,6 rubles, but according to the guarantor, everything is fine in the Russian Federation.
  32. koralvit
    koralvit 22 January 2016 09: 20 New
    +4
    If you look from the American side, yes this is a game, let the little child play. And if they ate from the side of Russia, then this is wrecking, bleeding the Russian economy, depriving them of the opportunity to develop. This is a liberal position, the worse for Russia, the better.
  33. Mera joota
    Mera joota 22 January 2016 09: 21 New
    15
    Bureaucrats ride in different forums and gatherings of financiers (at our expense!) Begging for penny investments while billions lie in American bins! Putting myself in the shoes of a normal businessman, I would ask a simple question: "Why do you, Mr. Putin, don’t yourself invest free funds in your economy? Why do you need my money if you have enough of it?"

    What did Kudrin and others like them tell us? “If we had left this money in Russia, it would have been plundered,” well, let's say.
    It turns out that the president is afraid to leave the money of Russians in the country out of fears that those people who were appointed to important posts will pocket them. He knows that thieves surround him; moreover, he himself appointed thieves to these places and does nothing. Well, this is also valid.
    Then the question arises. WHAT THE HECK! I AM! Must pay endless taxes directly and indirectly knowing that my money falls into the hands of thieves !?
    1. sa-ag
      sa-ag 22 January 2016 10: 30 New
      +8

      Quote: Mera Joota
      I AM! Must pay endless taxes directly and indirectly knowing that my money falls into the hands of thieves !?

      If we go along the evolutionary path, the number of civil servants will increase, people will go there knowing that they will earn some money there, by the way, therefore, admission to universities for all state and municipal administration will not fade, engineering specialties will suffer, as a result, everyone will to pay taxes on an increasing bureaucratic apparatus, in turn, funding for the maintenance of the police apparatus and other special services and the army will increase, so the social stratification will tend to grow, an interesting detail is that in the event of a crisis, social programs such as education are cut primarily healthcare and those close to them.
  34. valokordin
    valokordin 22 January 2016 09: 54 New
    +4
    Keep in mind my dear citizens, we see that our power lives in full confidence and that it’s not business people, namely the power and its support - the management of state monopolies with their insane wages and dividends. Well, in spite of the sanscence, they do not want to get off the American dollar needles, and they talk about oil prices.
  35. Belousov
    Belousov 22 January 2016 09: 55 New
    +8
    Instead of investing in their economy, they are investing in the economy of an outright enemy - well done ... Gaidar and Yeltsin watch their followers with emotion am
  36. Erg
    Erg 22 January 2016 10: 05 New
    +6
    All these money games are a scam. I see one thing - there is another robbery of the people. The financiers explain to us that everything that happens is caused by "objective" reasons. To disperse all these idlers.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 22 January 2016 11: 01 New
      0
      Some loafers will leave, others will come - this has already passed.
  37. dmitrymb
    dmitrymb 22 January 2016 10: 13 New
    0
    we are all puppets in someone's directed production, all we can do is score $, but then the director $ will pick up other actors, and we don’t have our director yet. If we try to create our own theater, they will burn it right away !!!
  38. Crown
    Crown 22 January 2016 10: 13 New
    +4
    Will you sit down to play cards with cheaters whose cards are stained? But economists play our grief. fool
  39. itr
    itr 22 January 2016 10: 24 New
    -3
    In my opinion, the economists of Russia have nothing to do with it. It’s just that the price of oil fell three times, respectively, in Russia there were fewer in foreign currencies. So they bought less
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 22 January 2016 11: 03 New
      0
      Money has become less and not only in foreign currency.
  40. Fonmeg
    Fonmeg 22 January 2016 10: 31 New
    +1
    Our inner "FRIENDS" just work well!
  41. Papapg
    Papapg 22 January 2016 10: 52 New
    +2
    Our leaders themselves do not believe in Russia investing our money in a foreign economy, there are no fools in our leadership, there are real people there, they know for sure that kirdyk will come to Russia, they teach their children abroad, they drove our education into the backside of a cow, we even introduced the concept - a parachute, when it’s all kirdyk, they will go down on these parachutes to the prepared bridgehead, like the former Minister of Agriculture. Bankers, damn it, gathered yesterday, so they say, we have everything okay, in the sense of them, and the people, and the people near the gas, in the sense near the anus. I think, damn it doesn’t matter to anyone like what I think, doesn’t depend on me at all, just let off steam.
  42. Dwarfik
    Dwarfik 22 January 2016 11: 18 New
    +2
    You need to invest in the real sector of the economy, but you don’t see it! You need to invest in factories, which, under the conditions of sanctions, will give crazy profits, and do not wait for the oil price to skyrocket and try not to take it out every day. Soon fresh water will be more expensive ..... literally.
  43. Mercenary
    Mercenary 22 January 2016 11: 19 New
    +1
    "Who specifically can benefit from not investing billions of reserves or budget ..."
    The authors of this masterpiece are the liberals Gaidar and Chubais. am
  44. Jack-b
    Jack-b 22 January 2016 12: 09 New
    +1
    Some kind of childish logic a la "don't piss in my pot". The author does not seem to understand or does not want to understand: the fact that the Russian Federation will not invest in American papers will make the Americans neither cold nor hot. Im dofene. If the RF does not invest, others will invest. The Americans will still receive their money. But for Russia it will be the loss of a convenient financial instrument. And now there is nothing to replace it. So before writing any heresy, at least a little studied the Internet, delved into the topic of world finance at least at the level of an advanced user. Not professional. The whining about "invest in the real economy, education and science" is generally a song. I would like to ask a respected author: and how? Give money to the poor, factories to workers and land to peasants? Well, I want to hear specific proposals and not whining. They sold the paper, on the account of 100 billion green - and how? The respected author has a list of specific names who should be given money for the development of all of the above? Are there specific development programs for which you need to allocate money? Are there specific laws or draft laws that govern the activities of the development organizations? Where will these billions go? I'll tell you how it will be if everything I asked about is not. In the budgetary sphere, this takes place every year in December: money is allocated, it must be urgently used. And the wild marathon of mastering money begins. Anything is bought and for any money just to master. How much money is being shoved into the pockets at this time, God only knows. It will be the same with these billions. That is why I ask the respected author: do you at least know what and how to spend this money? What specific mechanisms of use and control will be? If this understanding is not there, then you must first whine not about the fact that money is in America, but about the fact that these mechanisms do not exist.
    1. sa-ag
      sa-ag 22 January 2016 13: 33 New
      +2
      Quote: Jack-B
      The whining about "invest in the real economy, education and science" is generally a song. I would like to ask a respected author: and how? Give money to the poor, factories to workers and land to peasants? Well, I want to hear specific proposals and not whining.

      Please monitor the market what is currently lacking, or rather, what is imported from outside, a plant is organized for the production of this product, with its financing, the plant produces goods, sells it in the domestic market, the product fills the national currency with collateral, which reduces inflation, which reduces inflation in turn, it reduces interest rates on loans, which in turn increases the availability of domestic credit for other producers, which in turn fills the currency with commodity security, increases tax revenues, increases the share of social obligations in the budget, you can continue for a long time ...
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 22 January 2016 14: 21 New
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        The opening of factories and factories to replace foreign products is not a matter of one year, and the availability of loans carries not only good, but also a danger - they will get loans, and then they will not be able to repay and will become bankrupt.
      2. Jack-b
        Jack-b 22 January 2016 17: 17 New
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        Man, for a beer, of course we can pop with you in this vein ... but this is not a governing document and not an instruction for action.
        Quote: sa-ag
        a certain factory is organized for the production of this product

        By whom is it organized? Who is the owner? Right off the bat: a certain confidant, a relative, will appear, who will be given "bablaskokakhosh" and at least half of this money will be in Cyprus in a week or even further. Here, too, you can continue for a long time. But I want to remind you how once they decided to allocate money for the development of high-tech industries that are very much needed in Russia. The project was called Skolkovo. Do you want the Skolkovo-2 project? How many billions of greens do you want to bury there? I think there will be a lot of people who want to develop high technologies in the new technopark))))

        I want you to understand me correctly. I am with both hands in favor of allocating much more money to production and science and much more. And I am also not happy that we, although not very significant, are still a cog in the US dollar system. But in Russia there are still no effective mechanisms for targeted investment of this money. And that's the problem. And it is about this that we must "shout" in the first place, and not that our money "lives" in America.
  45. Denis Skiff
    Denis Skiff 22 January 2016 12: 37 New
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    It’s clear that this is bad. Well, what to do?
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 22 January 2016 14: 26 New
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      Searching for new markets is a long-term business - all that remains is to wait.
  46. vladimirvn
    vladimirvn 22 January 2016 14: 14 New
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    In supermarkets, so as not to scare people, they write the price of cheese not per kg, but for 100 grams. Also in the news you have to say the cost of a cent, not a dollar.
  47. propolsky
    propolsky 22 January 2016 14: 15 New
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    Interestingly, yesterday's re-investment and today's rise in oil prices are connected?
  48. Leader
    Leader 22 January 2016 14: 36 New
    +2
    Quote: Andrew Y.
    just a stock market game, nothing more, no clandestine strategies and "lulling" "partners", business, nothing personal.

    Namely, what is clear is only the personal interests of the Russian oligarchy!
    Spit on Russia and the interests of its citizens; only your own wallet matters.
    Quote: Jack-B
    But for Russia it will be the loss of a convenient financial instrument.

    Can Russia put financial pressure on the US? It’s ridiculous.

    All the problems of Russia - from "too smart". More precisely, the smart ones.
    So-and-so cunning plans make a difference! - that nothing is visible.
  49. Sakmagon
    Sakmagon 22 January 2016 14: 50 New
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    Have a conscience, gentlemen financiers! Everything has been sold, on finances - some goofs, the Motherland is in danger - and you are relaxing on Voennoye Obozreniye!
  50. akula
    akula 22 January 2016 14: 55 New
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    [quote = Gardamir]
    To reassure Russian society, while everyone realizes what's what, it will be too late, Russia will be sold and not very expensive.