A secure communication system is being created for the Russian defense industry.

The United Instrument-Making Corporation is creating a secure communication system for defense enterprises and a number of departments, such as the Ministry of Defense and the Ministry of Industry and Trade, the newspaper reports MIC with reference to the press service of the enterprise.

“The system supports all data transfer functions that are necessary in modern enterprises: IP-telephony, mobile communications, video conferencing, trusted e-mail and remote access to information and computing resources. It is planned that the development will be implemented in such large companies of the military-industrial complex as UAC, Uralvagonzavod, Russian Helicopters, OPK, etc., ”the release says.

According to the press service, “the system is interdepartmental in nature, its task is to ensure the reliability and protection of data transmission (including classified as“ top secret ”), the integration of information systems of enterprises participating in the state defense order. It is designed to simplify document flow and increase the efficiency of contract performance within the framework of the state defense order. ”

It is noted that "the development is based on domestic telecommunications equipment, computing equipment, means of cryptographic protection and trusted software of Russian production."

At the first stage, which should be completed before the end of this year, more than 250 enterprises are planned to be included in the system.

Comments

[Mountain shooter]

Finally. And then such information is sent over the network - no spies are needed. Download yourself ...

[An64]

I wonder what kind of information is being sent? Are you saying this just like that or competently?
If the company has a license and works with secrets, there will be no fools (and if it is, it’s hard) to send closed information on an open network. More expensive for yourself. The security guards will figure it out (and this is calculated elementarily), eat it with giblets and put it out with a wolf ticket.
And what is on the network is balabol from home computers pour. So no secure network will help.

[Dembel77]

Probably the OS will be ROSA. Doesn't hack.

The distribution for the servers is called Rosa Enterprise Linux Server (RELS), based on Red Hat Enterprise Linux.

The main products of the company are distributions certified by the FSTEC and the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, which bear the names of metals - “Cobalt”, “Nickel”, “Chrome”, their support and layout by software. These options are not in the public domain.

Initially, the ROSA group of companies was formed. CJSC ROSA was registered on 18.02.2010. On 10.08.2011 the subsidiary company ROSA LAB LLC was registered. On March 11.03.2012, 2014, LLC STC IT ROSA was established. As a result of the reorganization of the group of companies in XNUMX, CJSC ROSA and LLC ROSA Lab were liquidated. At present, the development of the OS ROSA line is concentrated in STC IT ROSA LLC (Scientific and Technical Center of Information Technologies "Russian Operating Systems").

[Sunseich]

the OS that the military spit on because of putrefaction (that is, buggy)))

[Sunseich]

the best defense is the one that is not known
I don’t understand, why ring the bell about it in all the villages and villages?
you can hack everything. It takes only time. This is the emphasis: when hacked - = already this information is irrelevant

[Starover_Z]

Quote: An64

If the company has a license and works with secrets, there will be no fools (and if they are, then) to send fools closed information over an open network. More expensive for yourself.

I work in the IVC ... (hereinafter I am simply silent). From Soviet times, on some walls, metallized foil remained under special perforated gypsum plates. They say for shielding, protection against reading. Own PBX network for communication with all subscribers.
And the second department was, say secretaries, and now there is, but .. It's good, but everything is already past ...
And I am writing this against the backdrop of an optimistic article because, for example, we have all the long-distance, interstate communication, probably for the sake of economy, for the so-called reliability and increase in the exchange rate, they were given to MOBILE OPERATORS!
That's all secrecy to you !!

[user]

So no secure network will help.

So the other day, the Minister of Communications with foam at the mouth argued that the Russian Federation does not need its own operating system. And taking into account that all OSs are not written by us and we don’t have them open (except LInux) and if we add to this that all communication equipment and network software are also with the same problems and not produced by us, then what kind of secrecy in telecommunication networks you can speak.
The only thing now being done is physically disconnect computer networks from Internet connections.

[vodolaz]

This is good, as I understand it, the same Americans have a closed network for defense.

[cap]

Quote: SanSeich

the best defense is the one that is not known
I don’t understand, why ring the bell about it in all the villages and villages?
you can hack everything. It takes only time. This is the emphasis: when hacked - = already this information is irrelevant

Quote: vodolaz

This is good, as I understand it, the same Americans have a closed network for defense.

Quote: Sura

Under the USSR, this was called the ZAS cabinet in the army and was subordinate to the Special Department.

Three opinions and all three are correct. Since a person realized that using smoke it is possible to transmit information, it is possible to count down the birth of the communications forces. The mammoth skin with signals is the first document with a signature stamp. This is a joke. Hello to the Specialists.
In my memory, they fell silent in the presence of strangers, even if the conversation was about the weather.
"Shut up, shut up" is about them.
I am sure the traditions are the same today.
Therefore, if they write something, this is already the property of yesterday.
But such news is good. Because, the service is alive, the traditions are alive .

[Sura]

Under the USSR, this was called the ZAS cabinet in the army and was subordinate to the Special Department.

[Dembel77]

Here is the information from the office. site

For processing information constituting a state secret
The ROSA CHROM family of operating systems is certified by the FSTEC of Russia in the desktop and server versions. It is recommended for processing information constituting a state secret with a signature stamp no higher than “secret”.

OS ROSA DX "CHROME" 1.0 for desktop systems. Certified by the FSTEC (certificate No. 3194 until 24.01.2017/4/3) with built-in means of protection against unauthorized access to information - for compliance with RD SVT in class XNUMX and RD NDV in level XNUMX control.

ROSA DX OS CHROME 1.0 is available for Intel i686 and Intel x86-64 architectures.

OS ROSA SX "CHROME" 1.0 for servers. Certified by the FSTEC (certificate No. 3193 until 24.01.2017/4/3) with built-in means of protection against unauthorized access to information - for compliance with RD SVT in class XNUMX and RD NDV in level XNUMX control.

ROSA SX CHROME OS 1.0 is available for Intel x86-64 architecture.

ROSA DX NICKEL 1.0 operating system is certified by the Eighth Directorate of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation. Currently exists only in the desktop version. It is recommended for processing information constituting a state secret with a signature stamp no higher than “secret”.

ROSA DX NICKEL OS 1.0 for desktop systems. Certified (until the spring of 2017) by the Eighth Directorate of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, with built-in means of protection against unauthorized access to information - for compliance with RD SVT in class 4 and RD NDV in level 3 control.

ROSA DX NICKEL OS 1.0 is available for Intel i686 and Intel x86-64 architectures.

Everything is. ROSA Fresh Custom OS - for home use. Link

http://www.rosalinux.ru

[Vita vko]

Quote: Dembel 77

http://www.rosalinux.ru

I wonder how things are with the drivers for this OC or the standard ones for Linux.

[Ajent cho]

what is the situation with the drivers for this OC or the standard ones for Linux

This OS is based on Mandriva, incl. with drivers the order. The problems are different.

[gormih]

There is nothing to transmit here ...
One of the top managers of a rather large enterprise on a computer with documents had Skype secretly, I personally saw this.
The question is - where did the FSB look ...

[scientist]

Quote: gormih

One of the top managers of a rather large enterprise on a computer with documents had Skype secretly, I personally saw this.
The question is - where did the FSB look ...

A similar question can be asked to you. Article 190 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation "Failure to report crimes" can be supplemented in view of special circumstances.

[BaLaLaykin]

It’s time, something dragged on with this issue

[Monos]

And on what OS will it all "fly"? On a "vindovoz", or what?

[BaLaLaykin]

on Raidix (SHD), Elbrus (workstations, servers), Zarya (workstations, servers), Astra Linux (workstations, servers, switching equipment, mainframes), and Windows completely sucks

[Monos]

Quote: Lalaika

on Raidix (SHD), Elbrus (workstations, servers), Zarya (workstations, servers), Astra Linux (workstations, servers, switching equipment, mainframes), and Windows completely sucks

And there is money to develop and support a unified system, to finalize it in real time, to support the wild number of new equipment, to support millions of illiterate users in the system, to be compatible with a wild number of third-party formats, to support or create unique applications after at microsoft ...? To safety in the end?
Does the example of Germany tell you anything? After two years of ordeals, they still returned ... Where? Right. To small ones.

[BaLaLaykin]

Linux already has a bunch of prog
Astra Linux (workstations, servers, switching equipment, mainframes)

The Russian company Rusbitech launches the Astra Linux OS family. The company's product portfolio is quite wide. There are versions that work on standard x86 hardware, there are distributions for ARM architectures and the mainframe.
The company singles out as the main vector of development the provision of safe work with information up to the level of “top secret”. All special-purpose distributions — Smolensk, Tula, Novorossiysk, and Murmansk — include software components that expand their functionality from a security point of view.

These OSs are certified by the FSB, FSTEC and the Ministry of Defense. The systems have a mandatory access model, plus support for Russian cryptographic standards and hardware. The developers pay special attention to the fact of creating information protection means on their own, and not on the basis of foreign
th prototype.
The Eagle release serves as a general-purpose operating system. If the distribution of special-purpose OSs is limited, then the distribution kit for the general-purpose version is available for free download. The distribution itself is based on the popular Linux Debian version. The system has added its own window manager. Most of the libraries available in the OS are fairly recent, which together gives a good
compatibility with modern hardware and software and high performance.
250 already found, but Germany is not credible in this matter

[Ajent cho]

Does the example of Germany mean anything to you? After two years of ordeals, they still returned ... Where? Right. To small

Germany (Munich, I think?) Has returned, many others have jumped off and are not going to return. This is not an example, especially when rollbacks are mentioned.

[Monos]

Yes! And by the way:

You don’t need any Russian operating systems that journalists like to ask about. We need global projects, we need integration, at least with our BRICS counterparts.

Who do you think stated this? Nikolay Nikiforov - Minister of Communications and Mass Media! No need for illusions. In order to create a completely protected native "web", it is necessary either to reformat the entire industry, or to build it on fundamentally and ideologically new equipment.

[BaLaLaykin]

and what has Nikiforov to do with it? We are talking about defense industry enterprises, these are different things

[Monos]

Nikiforov is the minister. Do you think state institutions are not included in this area?

Okay. Let's talk about industry. CNC machines and robots, GLONASS and other launched satellites, CAD systems, hundreds of thousands of units of "smart" and not so technology with chips, Fleet and Aviation, oil production and nuclear power ... More to list? All this will need to be matched and reflashed. Is it possible now?

[BaLaLaykin]

the minister is not from that area, we are talking about defense enterprises. now we are talking about 250 enterprises where this will be done and once again I will repeat to you, your Windows is AWAY !!!

[Monos]

First, you misunderstood me: I didn’t protect Windu (and it’s not mine), I’m just skeptical about her; secondly, I talked about the impossibility of building an open network without the development and implementation of an absolutely unique software product, which, in turn, is impossible for the above reasons.
So, at this stage - a good, old paper workflow! This is the only way to keep secrets.

Remember why the states spoiled the Crimean spring? Because Putin did not discuss these issues by telephone! And did not advise others.

[Maxom75]

most likely good old Linux.

[Mihalich17]

Oh, I'm sure that we have powdered our enemies' brains and "have" them in full! )))
Who is this genius in our leadership, huh?
I can imagine how the neocons are raging in the west now; "This cannot be! Russia is torn to shreds! Where did they get THIS ALL ???")))
I love you, my Motherland, Mother Russia !!!
With all my heart I love !!!
- Yes, at least MINUSE to death! Morons b ... be! )))))))

[3 Gorynych]

dust the wrong word! Vorogi probably do not remember how the secret packages look - they are used to everything on flash drives ... but now they will generally fall into the support! Russians also have computers !?

[Boos]

I envy you kindly ...))) I would like your confidence!))

[Mihalich17]

You can only BELIEVE and LOVE in Russia!
... We have one, comrade! One ...

[_Alexei_]

Only now it is a relief that it is vryatli, as we wrote on paper and we write it in electronic format.

[vladimir1958]

Will it not work out like the Americans with Snowden?

[gormih]

Quote: Vita VKO

Quote: Dembel 77

http://www.rosalinux.ru

I wonder how things are with the drivers for this OC or the standard ones for Linux.

Suitable. Only she ceases to be a Dew, and you lose the security guaranteed by the state. acceptance.

[antiexpert]

still would have created a domestic operating system, so as not to feed the melkosoftov)))

[Gunther]

Well, better late than never. The creation of a local, secure network is long overdue.
I hope everything will be done as it should, and not on the black chalk.

Quote: An64

... And what is on the network is balabol from home computers pour. So no secure network will help with this.

A couple of times, when searching, I myself found service information with the first data (((
If the entire data stream is encrypted "on the fly", then when you try, for example, at home, to copy from a stolen hard drive (you are a ninja turtle and broke the server with a screwdriver), you will be unpleasantly surprised. I'm talking about a railway disk. copying to flash drives, etc. devices should be locked by default.

[chelovektapok]

What's the news about? More Tov. Stalin and L.P. Beria attached great importance to the protection of communications. Rare devices using amplitude and frequency coding can be found in special museums. They have forgotten about the protection of information today7 As if not a sabakashvili to post a disposition map on the internet. Although the jumpers still may not have this. Miserabli relics, even sitting in the boilers of Ilovaisk, Debaltsevsk and others, had intercourse with each other through social networks. A lot of such "selfies", where in the morning they eat vodka and at lunchtime militiamen with additions for their parents post them in the form of bloody rags, they say, take them away for the burial of your "overweight".

[gridasov]

Only the transition to radial mathematical structures. and if we talk about a more fundamental level, then the transition to the function of a constant value of a number can make it possible to make the information remain in the public domain and make it inaccessible for contact with it. Otherwise, there will always be ways to very quickly "calculate" and find information hidden as its "package". In mathematics, concepts such as infinite series of numbers are still considered. But based on just nine numbers, the series cannot be infinite in the combination of these numbers. It's just that there is not enough brains to know how to turn any series into an algorithm of these numbers, which means to build it as cyclically repeating combinations of the numbers themselves and their algorithmic components. However, the whole problem is solved using the radial principles of constructing a mathematical number space. Then, in a combination of numbers, it becomes practically and theoretically even impossible to determine the required algorithm.
Even a series of prime numbers can be expressed as a systemic combination of numbers, but not in a series, but in a spatial system of laws for constructing these primes.

[Gunther]

Quote: gridasov

... Then, in a combination of numbers, it becomes practically and theoretically even impossible to determine the required algorithm.
Even a series of prime numbers can be expressed as a systemic combination of numbers, but not in a series, but in a spatial system of laws for constructing these primes.

Alas, Master, from the moment of the loss of the criteria of absolute truth (K. Gödel and G. Weil - outstanding mathematicians wrote about this), we are directly faced with a lack of certainty, from now on 2 + 2 is not equal to 4, and parallel lines intersect (!!!) ...
The criteria of correctness became ephemeral and unsteady (((

[gridasov]

To begin with. that two plus two equals four in the system of that technique. which we ourselves have chosen and whose answer we ourselves mean. Why? Because, based on the theory of analysis, everything looks completely different. That is, the individuality and polysemy of each component in such a calculation is absolutely not taken into account, which means that we neglect a huge number of parametric properties only in the name of the calculation and the result. All this means that mathematics is not only computation, but also the ability to perform complex analysis based on the use of numbers.
Further. If you are a little more attentive to natural phenomena and processes, then parallel lines are an illusion imposed on yourself. Therefore, there are no direct events in nature. that it is energetically impossible to sustain the process in the understanding as we imagine it in a straight line. It is always energetically impossible. Therefore, I would say, even otherwise, that there can be no parallelism, since any straight line is a part of a circle, and accordingly it is impossible to construct two circles with the same radii so that they are parallel. Otherwise, we can also say that it is not the parallelism of straight lines that should be sought, but the regularities of the geometric interactions of spheres with the same radii. Therefore, we cannot but agree with you that it is necessary to build "castles on new foundations." Unfortunately, people are not all capable of feeling this, much less agreeing with new fundamental ideas. One of them is the function of constant value of a number, which is the basis of the mathematical theory of analysis.

[user]

then parallel lines are an illusion imposed on oneself

Unfortunately, people are not all capable of feeling this, much less agreeing with new fundamental ideas.

The thieves have completely confused us.

All truth is guilty.

[gridasov]

See for yourself. The straight line is identified with the vector. In a real physical process, such a straight line should be considered as a process of interaction of the length of this straight line and its cross section, namely, that conciguration, which is energetically optimal, and hence the radial circle. And no matter how small it is, the relation will always be considered. Energetically, a straight line cannot be a reality, since it will always have a potential difference at its ends. This will be caused by external processes of influence relative to gravitational forces and temperatures and rotation speed relative to the Earth's precession axis, and much more. Therefore, in order to talk about a straight line as a system of energy transfer, for example, electricity or light, etc., you need to understand in which algorithms the amplitude of momentum transfer from one radius of the cross section to another along this vector will narrow and expand. This is why lines cannot be parallel. Because if we consider them from an energy point of view, then it is impossible to recreate an identical energy process in two straight lines in reality. Or am I wrong?

[Vlad5307]

Quote: 3

Thieves probably don’t remember how the secret packages look, they’re used to everything on flash drives ... and now they’ll fall into the support!

In fact, I do not recommend getting into the support - this is part of the lathe, you can get injuries incompatible with life! But to fall into a stupor - m. and safe!

[jonht]

Linux is a very good system, BSD systems have been created on the basis of its kernel, and it is not a little important that the stub (apple) has also been working on the Linux kernel (BSD) for 8 years already. As they say, take the core and hang on it whatever your heart desires or write it yourself.

[user]

As they say, take the core and hang whatever your heart desires on it, or write yourself.

What the conversation is about, but the minister claims the opposite, but in order to hang whatever your heart desires, you need money, and the minister is against it, which means there is no funding for this idea, so the circle has closed.